AMD Threadripper 3990X TRX40 VRM Torture Test feat. Asus ROG Zenith II Extreme Alpha
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I don't even have the money to buy any of these but watching anyway
yeah same
Same
I don't even need all that power
I could, but I don’t think it would be a good idea... I might just buy a car instead...
same I don't even have the price of the 3200G
gonna get this to emulate NES games
6:04 I wouldnt be buying and then overclocking a 64 core-128 thread monster to 3.8Ghz , Steve, if i wasn't already a mad man
I would, but my wallet makes me very limited.
Major shame, considering I still use a Pentium.
yhou had to find someway to get that in didn't you lol
Yeah but my aim will be 5 GHz (I hope -100c will be enough to hit that, I think it should but that’s a lot of cores and it only takes one slow one to limit that all core speed...). I kinda fell behind on making the cooler because of so much overtime at work, but maybe that means by the time I’ll get around to it that the TR-64 core might be on a small sale, haha!
Thousands of people watching a video relevant to probably half a dozen of them. You still make it interesting.
NZRoflcopter living my dream vicariously.
Well we will see some of the features on consumer boards. I didnt even know that you can buy 90A VRMs now. These halo-products are always interesting, even if most cant afford them. Look at something like the Sennheiser HE1 Orpheus. Who can or would pay 60K for a headphone system. Its the best you can get, some say better than a listening room with speekers for 250k. I would buy some if I could. But whats even more interesting is what of that you can buy in a future product thats more "affordeble" like 3000$. They make around 250 HE1 per Year. You can be sure its not enough to cover the research and development.
Asus on AMD GPUs: I sleep.
Asus on AMD CPUs: Real shit.
I wanted to buy an Asus tuf gtx 1660 when it was on special but the design was horrible.I rather stick ot products i know asus mobo's msi/gigabyte gpu's.
BUT Asus Radeon has best vrm in market
Asus your GPU's over heat and are crap, ASUS thats ok they will be fine.
Asus your motherboard is doing good it is in second, ASUS not good enough here is a new board.
Asus has to heads both are stupid.
Actually since the latest driver I finally stopped suffering random freezes, but yeah the experience still has a few issues.
Sapphire and Powercolor are the 2 brands anyone should look at for their rx 5700-xt choice.
Because Threadripper and Ryzen have the most sales of anything combined right now.
For nostalgia sake I recently played James Bond Nightfire (2002) and excluding cutscenes the entire game is 580MB. So half the game fits into the 3990X cache. How times have changed.
If I'm not mistaken, the entire Windows 98 fits in the 3990X cache. Too bad that Windows 1.0 up until Windows Me is single core only.
Now that I think of, surely you can build a modern linux kernel that could fit in the 3990X cache.
@@Winnetou17 you don't have to build it, it's already there 😜
Winnetou17 puppy Linux ran great on my single threaded celeron tablet with just 712 MB of DRR1 (there was no HDD, the entire OS is loaded into RAM and then the flash drive used to boot up is removed to free up the USB port), so yeah, lol that was plenty for the OS and browsing the web, haha definitely no HDD caching because it didn’t have one anymore since the tablet was $0.25 at a thrift store but it ran nice and smooth, haha!
@@Winnetou17 Alternatively you can run 64 Windows 98 VMs side by side for the lulz
Harbor Unbox is my Fav for all kinds of PC Hardware Testing!! Great Job as Always Steve!
"how many of you are interested in threadripper overclocking especially for the 64 core part"
Wendell has entered the chat
I think everyone that wants that level of performance would still be able to use more, it’s like buying a Farrari and saying “but who would ever want to go over the 15 mph school zone speed limit”, like obviously your wanting power and performance (and paying a lot for it too), so why not take an hour and get a decent performance boost since you apparently needed or wanted it.
spread of what?? D E M O N E T I Z E D
"Errrm, I meant the human malware!"
caption says curve at 19 :D.
It's very nice that mobo manufacturers compete in VRM temps now. It took them a good while before actually getting their shit together (putting propper heatsinks on the VRM for starters) but it's drastically better today than it was 5 years ago. It's also nice to finally see the superior boards go to AM4.
Oh man I love Harbor unboxed :)
Who's this Tareq 40 and why are you revisiting his(?) veeram thermal testing?
Lmao
Other gems from Google's auto subs:
"Third jennipher processes"
"Thread Rupa 3990 X"
"Supported by our patch remember so big...(patreon members)"
"Harborough Box"
there are also:
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MSI crater
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Auris Master
@@renerant welcome back to hammer on box
10:02 Become a member of the Harborough Box Community
I've been looking forward to Harbor Unbox revisiting Tareq's 40 veeram, and I wasn't disappointed. Decidedly the greatest Australo-Indian rap group I've ever listened to.
I have the 1st gen threadripper 1900x, my gigabyte mobo had only just died last week and just had the ASUs Rog Zenith Extreme Alpha x399 come in. Overclocked my cpu to 4.1ghz and I’m tweaking it to get more out of it. Also in a few months I’m going with the ASUs Rog Zenith II Extreme alpha with a 3960x and two RTX 2080 Ti’s. It’s going to be nuts
I’m curious, what kind of workload are you running to take advantage of the dual 2080ti’s?
I’m almost certainly building a TR system for my next workstation, probably 3970x or whatever the 4XXX equivalent is. My main workload is code compilation and running multiple VMs, so I think my workloads are for the most part all CPU, so I’m interested to heard from people that have high GPU workloads to see where they help with.
Ben Baron it’s really just for multiply screens. Also I’ve always had duel GPU’s. More of a enthusiast kind of thing also things like adobe take advantage of cuda cores when rendering. But I also plan to have multiple pc setups in my studio I’m building so I will then keep and carry parts over to those.
Dante Armaros Tech makes sense, thanks for taking the time to reply!
Ben Baron always try to reply. Good luck bud
While I have no personal or even work need for this information, I am fascinated by it. The fact that a motherboard can pump over 800 W without catching fire is amazing.
Keep up this amazing work.
having a product thats orders of magnitude more powerful that the competition makes your partners play nice
Nicely done. Another informative video. Wouldn't expect any thing else.
Me: Hey, I can run my molecular simulations on 32 10-core ivy bridge processors, it's really fast.
Threadripper 3990X: Hold my power supply.
doesnt make any sense
wouldnt 320 cores beat 64 though
@@yourick1953 actually not sure about that. these 320 cores are clocked at 2.3 ghz and have only triple amount of cache. Besides, ivy bridge doesn't support avx2 and 512 as modern xeons do. Finally, there's a lot of communication overhead in case of 32 processors on 16 nodes. Having less cores (with more IPC/higher freq) is beneficial in terms of scalability, too, as the workload may not scale linearly. It's hard to test, as I don't have the 3990x, but I'm sure it would be a pretty close battle. It's when overclocking might come in handy (oh boi these 850 watt are insane for a single cpu).
Deepcool New Ark 90SE , not Cooler Master))
Yep, misspoke.
Welcome back to Harbor Unbox!
I like to know things as this. But biggest info for me was that Asus take results of reviews and change design, is good sign, if they do it in future it only mean better products for customers, and better sells for them. Win - Win situation.
Pity they didn't have this reaction to the RX NAVI Graphics Cards with their Ludicrous Heat Problems, instead treating their customers like crap
I have no need or want to ever build a workstation like this, since I am primarily a gamer, who sometimes toys with content creation. But, it's still interesting to watch tests like this, and know what is the best of the best out there, so thank you for making this one despite the potential lack of views!
"Asus ROG Zenith II Extreme Alpha" What a name
At least it's no alphabet soup
Welcome back to Harbor Unbox fellas!
thanks for this video it helped me a lot keep the good work
A great video as usual from Harbor Unbox. I want you to try saying the name very slowly and clearly to see if the captions are correct for once.
I just built a computer using the Zenith II Extreme Alpha for a (very wealthy) customer and it's one heck of a beast, it weighs a ton and is jam-packed of stuff, connectors, etc. A massive overkill of a mobo.
lol! that slow fade to the nearly identical slide...
Ho well I'll just have to put up with my 12 core threadripper till I win the Lottery.
The asus strix could be easily considered the best board for 3990x OC if someone starts making a wb for its vrm. It's the only motherboard without the heatpipe between vrm heatsink and I/O shield heatsink, moreover it has the exact same vrm as Asus zenith.
Can you do a review on the fixed ASUS tuf rx5700xt ?
Like to see gaming with SMT off and over clock and also see per cc overclock
No intend to buy this monster...
Except for GROMACS or Amber simulation...
Steve, bet you would love Striped bass fishing in the USA.
The CPU phases on that alpha is nuts! I thought I was pushing current on my Gigabyte Aorus x399 /w 1950X @ 280 watts on the CPU. After all the bios updates the 1950X games great now (when Im not rendering in CAD xD)
All the TRX40 boards work fine for the 3990x. Most people will not overclock because of the workloads they run.
I can't wait for the next ZEN launch so I can pick up a heavily discounted/used 64core threadripper.
I have zero intent of ever buying any of these products, but I’m here watching anyway and commenting for the algorithm.
Most of the tech videos I watch is not through any intent to buy. These channels could not survive if they relied on intent to buy views.
Not interested in overclocking Threadripper, but I am interested in running a 3970x at stock clocks for virtualization along with workstation uses.
I purchased the extreme alpha and mounted a 24 core ($1400) threadripper. Selected the MBOB for reasons of PCIe4.
Zenith II Extreme is just release a few month ago but they release Alpha model already.
G'day Steve & Teddy Jr.,
Not planning on Buying TRX, but after seeing how ASUS treats their customers in your ASUS RX Follow ups I would go with the MSI Creator as I have no intention of buying ASUS anymore
MSI amd cards have usually been shit tho
truth be told they never looked like much to begin with when that waas the case
unlike asus who hypes up their cards to be the shit when they dont even cool the vram
@@roboticrebel4092 My MSI Comment was about this comparison, as for X570 my go to would be Gigabyte, B450 I went MSI Mortar (M version of the Tomahawk), RX Sapphire or Power Color, GTX/RTX EVGA, I have no Allegiance to any company, but ASUS has put me off to the point even if they perform the best I'll go to Second best Partner performance
The alpha is Asus spitting in the face of everyone who purchased the original Zenith II. Asus announced the Alpha only a couple months after I purchased the original and as an OC'er that would benefit from the better VRM's, that is a kick in the stomach. After years of buying almost exclusively Asus mobos for my overclocking rigs, I'm done with them. My only wish is that EVGA made AMD mobos.
Threadrippers systems should be built in big show-off cases, like the Thermaltake Core P5 or P7 series.
So, you're saying that this board puts the T-Rex in TRX40?
The biggest issue for me with the Asus motherboard is the PCI slot spacing. I want a board that can take 4 dual slot graphics cards without having to resort to water-cooling. For this reason the Gigerbyte Aorus Extreme is a much better board to base a 3d rendering build on. If Asus had done some research with 3d artists they should have realized this as most 3d renderers are moving to support GPU.
isn't the case a Deepcool one ?
Hardware Unboxed channel name slowly changing to Harbour an box
Hey there, i wanna ask for real.
How does the TR 3990x’s pcie lanes distribution works on rog zenith ii extreme alpha?
Hey, Steve a long time viewer. Let me know if you need something or some process automated for doing benchmarks. Great video as always.
Great review as always Steve!
I would definelty overclock a 3990X if I ever get one.
Also, can you PLEASE do a Blender simulation benchmark? Nobody is testing this, which is really frustrating since you can run Blender simulations only on the CPU. And they take a really long time to finish, longer even than rendering sometimes. And I really want to know how a lot of these CPU's perform. Especially the 3990X.
I can even make a custom Blender file for you with Mantaflow simulation if you want. Let' me know.
Cheers
Do i Need to know this nope. I find my self watching because its interesting to see the limits of the top tier stuff.
Cool, thanks for the information Steve@HUB. Now to win Loto Max and get the Asus - - - - Alpha TRX40, the Threadripper 3990WX, and 256GB of 3800MHz RAM for experimental reasons. Then I can render my videos in 12 seconds :-) That really sounds awesome...
the dim 2 slot has a speed of type 2242/2260/2280/22110 and 6 channels the other 3 have a speed of type 2242/2260/2280 the dim is much faster. always use 1 of the dim m2 for your c drive and 1 for your virtual memory(swapfile). use the mp 400 of corsair 8 tb this has a really fast iops read and write this is what you need for ram. use 8 tb virtual memory (swapfile) and 256gb of ddr4 3200 with the AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X 64 core. the mb supports faster memory but the cpu not. and the m2 slot on the backside is a 2x slot. faster than te other 2. use this for adding 1 tb of RAMCache III that you can find in your bios this gives you 9256 gb of ram that is wat you need for the 64 core. the m2 slot on the back side shares bandwidth with the top 4 sata. and the lower 2 m2 share bandwidth with pci express port 2 and 4 and the pci express 16.4 are really 4 fully functional ports not 2 x8 if you use the 2 m2 next to it it wil become x16/x8/x16/x8 you can find this on the asus web site. have fun !!
Isn't that a Deepcool case in the video? Or were you just showcasing different setups?
Interested in overclocking the 64 core Threadripper, sure, able to afford the parts needed less able to so.
You forgot to mention the ASUS board is now less efficient with every other processor that fits the socket.
Now I need to come up with a good reason to buy a 3990X. It will take a while. But thanks for letting us know what can be done if there is a reason.
Mines on its way
Thanks 👍
Had a doubt that can we use 2 or more msi 2080 ti Seahawk ek x using sli or nvlink?
Does that computer to your left ever turn on? Can you just power it up in a video for proof of Life?
I wonder why AMD didn't call these "WX".
I wonder why nobody has reviewed any of the mITX x570 boards (I mean there are some, but either they do not speak English, or they are just people that just do not have the background like HB or GN does).
\o/ tnk for the follow up :)
hi, is better the asrock creator or aorus master for threadripper 3990x? thanks
Like watching a video on a Ferrari. I’m not buying one, but still loved it.
Thx Steven ;D
Can I assume MSI trx40 Pro wifi or 10g will have same temps as MSI Creator?
Question for HUB: Are YOU folks going to build a 3990 rendering/production system? If so, are YOU going to overclock it?
No we will use the 3970X, we probably won't overclock it.
Thanks for the reply. Would you say that is more because you don't want to give up the warranty, or because the potential performance gains aren't enough to make it worthwhile? I think you folks are actually the target market for this CPU, so what you would do and why is pretty important!
THANKS
I'm INTERESTED in the zenith 2 extreme alpha motherboard and the 3990x. Can I AFFORD the zenith 2 extreme alpha motherboard and the 3990x? HELL NO!!!!!
Can I download more cores?
Unfortunately not (that used to be a thing even with Intel selling unlock keys. AMD used to also have unlockable extra cores). As for downloading more cores like my R9 Fury series you actually can download BIOS that will unlock some extra (sort of like some cards like RX470/480 could sometimes unlock Vram from 4 GB to 8 GB). So those you either downloaded tools to do so (like check the cards and see if it was possible, then download the BIOS modding tools or the pre-customized BIOS and boom! You suddenly downloaded more cores and performance!). TR-64 core is at the max count with all chip let’s enabled (it was debated if first gen could be unlocked with capacitors since like my TR-1950x is a “16 core” but really has 32 physical cores it’s just that half the chiplets are “dummy dies” even though they are real chiplets but probably just broken ones). Also maybe someday someone will mod say the 24 core into 32 or something etc, but it defiantly won’t happen for this one because it’s already fully unlocked.
Try the ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming with Bios 0807 please and see how it goes. In fact, try all the boards released before the Alpha. Dirty Asus intentionally locked the DRAM speed to 2133mhz without even noting it in the download page. You'll have to dig into the CPU compatibility page to see that note. And this is the response when I talked to them "The current Bios that you are on is a requirement to run the CPU as such you are unfortunately locked at that speed. We can understand the frustration this may cause however, this is the most up to date BIOS that we have at this time as we have not received any updates as to if this will be addressed in further updates". Not sure why Asus is the only vendor that has the 2133mhz "requirement" to run the 3990X. And "you are unfortunately locked at that speed" wtf?
Guys can someone help me out with UPS VA reqs?
VA is basically Watts except no power factor correction is applied simple way to workout the size get a plug in watt meter measure your power draw don't forget to include the monitor and anything else you need running once you have that number multiple by the amount of time you want it to run in hours add 10% for worst case power factor correction and that's the size you need for example: total draw is 450w you want 1 hour so still 450w plus 10% = 495w so you would look for a UPS with a minimum of 500va
Shayne Gadsden well pcpartpicker says my estimate wattage is 369w and my psu is 550w so I need at least 605VA?
@@okeman7614 overall psu watts doesn't matter that's just the max it can put out I believe pcpartpicker is pretty accurate so 370w is about 410va per hour plus your monitor if that wasn't included
@@shaynegadsden So for at least 5 minutes how much VA do I need then? Like 1k?
@@okeman7614 if it's only for 5 min basically power went out so do a safe shutdown 100va would cover it
sorry ... which cooling system was used? custom liquid or aio?
Oh damn, no ASRock TRX40 Creator? Now I am sad... :/
Does the Gigabyte TRX40 Aorus Xtreme (rev 1.1) make any difference on VRMs ?
Hey, can you review the LG gl83A, I'm sure you'd like it
still no results for the pro wifi? darn.
I am interested in threadripper memory overclocking, I have 128GB at 3200MHz, but curious how far you can go for 256GB of RAM
Oh yes Asus, everything fine until it breaks which it will eventually and then they wont send you a replacement and tells you to fuck off literally.
I would love to be able to afford a 3990x, it would make music easier to create, and would chew through my 4K renders...one day
Love this content even though I can't even afford a 3600 at this point lmao
Hmm, that's 56 more cores than I need
Please how many pc fans that can I connect into this motherboard?
THATS A HUGE LOAD
That's what she said
wrong link for the Gigabyte TRX40 Aorus Xtreme
Hmm, weird, Asus is charging $50 more on their site for that board. LOL. I picked it up on amazon, hopefully it's legit. Just checked my order, sold by amazon and with only a $25 markup from MSRP, not as bad of a scalping I got (but knowingly went into) for the 3090. I went with a blackout theme, minimal lights mostly black parts (GPU has lights on it, NZXT water block has an LCD display, board has lights too, everything else, no lights).
800 wats for a cpu jesus christ now it finaly makes sense to buy 1000 and more wattage psu
850W from the wall. Doubt rest of the system manage on only 50W,
I'm imagining the ultimate EVE Online account multiboxing setup. Total waste of money, but some people have the money to waste. I have literally no reason to buy one of these things.
this time its harbor unbox
Why does no body make after market vrm coolers????
Monoblocks ;)
If I could afford a threadripper 3990X and make use of it, I would be one of does over clocking the sh_t out of this processor.
To be fair, anyone who is interested in overclocking threadripper will probably find this video in their research.
So there might be more interested people here than you think
Rip your ads due to mentioning the c word once
Might not apply, Google caption said curve at 19. Aussie accent usefulness.
@@enhinyerorider5914 LMAO?
Asus cares more about hedt boards then mainstream
But can it report ECC RAM errors?
Was there supposed to be a comparison at 2:00?
It changes from the non-alpha to the alpha at 2:00, watch the 70a power stages change to 90a 😉
850w holy jeez
@2:00, you say that the VRM V-Core configuration used to look like "this", but now looks like "this". That transition was so subtle as to not even be noticeable. Could you not have amplified the look by changing the color of the text?
That's the point....