Excellent! These results kind of show what I've been suspecting. Of all the retail models available, it seems the Noctua is the only unit that was actually designed for full coverage. It would be interesting to see the same tests done with a 3960 or 3970 chip, which should work well enough with all of these coolers given the lack of outer chiplets. Feel free to do a follow-up on that. :)
@@user-yl9vs9eh1w It's more that the heat pipe orientation they chose resulted in a design that would be effective at cooling all TR4 chips if it could cool any, since the heatpipes run along the length of the package rather than the width.
The 3990x is easier to cool than the 3970x, which is easier than the 3960x. This is because the clock speeds (and therefore voltage) is lower, resulting in lower heat output. Also more dies mean the heat is more evenly spread, lowering the chance of hotspots.
21:27 If you put on the thick set of rubber feet on the 2nd Noctua fan, the whiny noise largely disappears. You can find these in the box of the Noctua tower cooler. There's even a diagram in the manual that shows this. It looks like you forgot to replace the factory rubber feet on the 2nd fan with them. A useful tip if you like a bit more silence. 🙂
Thank you so much for putting in so much time into this video, I haven't seen a better researched/explained video on Threadripper cooling. Wasn't subscribed before this but I am now.
Thanks for sharing this video, impressive how Noctua NH-U14S TR4 can handle new threadrippers. Only other cooler that i would have loved to see in your comparison was the Thermalright Silver Arrow TR4, specially vs the U14S, maybe in a future video?
In Computerbase.de testing with the 2990wx back in 2018, the silver arrow TR4 performed miserably in comparison to the U14s, I doubt it would be any different now.
@@tommihommi1 Thanks for that heads up with the Silver Arrow TR4 testing. As we said in the video, the behaviour of the 3990X versus the previous-gen Threadripper parts is very different due to the dissimilar chiplet layout. Good.bad 2990WX coolers may not be good/bad on the 3990X, especially as the 64-core can push more power to saturate some coolers.
@@tommihommi1 Indeed. I misinterpretted your comment. I too would be very surprised if something that isn't good for the 2990WX is good for the 3990X even with the different chiplet layout.
It's amazing that some of these coolers are actually capable of handling over 400watts with these huge chiplet based CPUs. More manufacturers should design Threadripper based air coolers. I'm really curious how modern coolers could handle the new 96 core 7995WX when the plate is actually designed for that big IHS and spreadout core configuration.
Fantastic overview! You didn't just give a very conclusive review but also a very helpful guide about what to concider when trying to effectively cool a TR4 CPU. Nicely done!
Thank you for the video. Other channels almost never cover threadripper coolers. Always mainstream cpus. Does same thing over and over again. Keep doing videos around TR please. Btw will you review the retail version of icegiant cooler? It's supposed to come around. soon.
Thanks for the feedback! Threadripper is certainly a niche platform but it is a platform that we feel is very important to the market. Plus it's exciting and deserves coverage from many perspectives, in our opinion. I certainly hope we will be looking at the retail version when it releases. It's due Summer 2020, which will be ideal timing for us Brits without air conditioning in our home offices. Even if the fans are high speed and loud, that cooling potential of the IceGiant is absolutely required with the high ambients.
Yes, I agree, I am in the process of designing a unique cooler and the fact that you caught the die issues sent me back to the drawing board...LOL. Thank you sir.
if i remember correctly, last year they showed prototype for NH-D15 successor with TR4-sized cold plate. they didn't really say anything about the release schedule though, they only said this year if nothing happens. but corona happens, so dunno.
They have confirmed they are working on it, and they have indeed showed a prototype (at last year's Computex if I remember correctly). As with all things Noctua, they don't ever rush things.. It'll come when it comes.
Is the IceGiant coming out with a copper cold plate? If so when do you think they will be available to the public?? Currently building a Threadripper based pc and this video helped out immensely with deciding on the cpu cooler to go with. Keep up the awesome work!!
Anybody else think he reminds them of Hizdahr zo Loraq from Game Of Thrones? On a more serious note, excellent job melding the data driven style of Gamers Nexus and the more easily digestible, approachable style of Lynus Tech Tips. Glad I pre-ordered the Pro-Siphone Elite. Here's to hoping the smaller final form factor works at least as good as the prototype!
This is perfect. Thank you for the work, simply excellent. I didn't expect the Be Quiet to fall so behing but the way you explained it makes perfect sense. The only thing I would love to see as an extra is a custom watercooling loop with a threadripper specific waterblock.
Watercool Heatkiller copper water block has a TR sized cold plate and full coverage water block finned area. With a Watercool res/D5 pump and an EK 45mm X 420MM rad you can run any TR 1900X to a 3990X. An open-loop water cooler is cheaper than an endless stream of air cooler upgrades.
It would be good to see if the noctua industrial fans @2000 or 3000rpm would have any beneficial effect on cooling on the NH-14. As for the enermax, it works ok if you buy one and do a fluid swap
I would have liked to have seen the Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora 360 or 420 used as the AIO in this test. Apparently the cold plate on that unit is bigger than the original Eisbaer that covered 95% of the TR4 IHS.
Did you guys noticed any "coil whine" on this motherboard ? I got RMA on 1st one and got 2nd and still producing coil whine. I even replaced GPU and PSU.
The final design is a bit smaller than this one. If you check out the icegiant site and click on the ProSiphon Elite, there's a section called "From Prototype to ProSiphon Elite" that shows the evolution from the reference prototype in this video to the final version that is now shipping in September due to delays stemming from Covid-19 impact on manufacturing :|
here I was, hoping for news on the actual production cooler, but it's still the exact same prototype that has been making the rounds since last year. It's nice that you managed to replicate the 2018 Computerbase.de testing results, where the noctua cooler is just crazy good, due to the high quality heatpipes.
The Noctua cooler is really good. We are pleased to see it's still an excellent choice for the new 3990X. Fingers crossed we can get our hands on the 2020 ProSiphon Elite when it releases in a few months.
well cool to see power use of the zen 2 CPU shown, iv only seen actually hardcore overclocking show power use during benches. you relay need to watch power use as it seems to be the best indicator on zen 2 of whats going on, comparing cooling with power use relay highlights it! look at the power use of the hotter cores, if power is higher there in the centre and boosting harder as they have cooling if there lower power use there on the outside and thermal throttling. id gess
we've gotten used to massive ram sticks in the name of RGB and shiny heatsinks. I managed to snag some bare sk hynix chips that fit under an NHD15 in dual fan without having to lift the front fan (then it doesn't fit in the case)
Linus just got asked about the thermosiphon on stream the other day and wasn't able to give much insight past the prototype. Good to see someone else talking about it
What you should have included for reference is a custom loop with a proper TR water block. Because that's going to be the best performer for both temperature and noise.
I bought the Noctua U14S years ago, I honestly never exptected it to do so well, I thought in today's age it would be falling behind, but I'm impressed, glad I bought and still using mine (dual fan setup btw) Edit : gotta say I'm interested in the ice giant but noise does matter to me and regardless of looking at benchmark the ice giant sounds very loud Edit 2 : Wow you have less than 100k subs and this is one of the best reviews/comparisons I've ever seen, you earned my sub 👌
Loved watching this test. However I feel something important has been left out. If a consumer is going to drop such a large amount of money on a 3990X Threadripper CPU and motherboard then I don't recommend the PC case you used for testing. A PC case along the lines of the Corsair 1000D would be a more logical choice. Mount a huge amount of fans in the front and top of the Corsair 1000D chassis (and two fans in the back) and I think your temps would be lower and more manageable regardless of the CPU air cooler you use.
The Fractal Meshify S2 is an excellent chassis that has won a lot of praise from reviewers and users. Case choice is always very, very subjective. But the Fractal Meshify S2 is certainly capable of handling big, hot Threadripper builds as it has good airflow design.
Good review; however assertions that the ML360 TR4 only provides superficial full HS cover are wrong. Theoretically as long as the HS is large enough things like "temperature gradients" would minimise the issues you mentioned. You should have included at least one of these "true TR4 AIO's" in your tests - the results may have surprised you. Emperical observation always trumps scientific theory ....
It would be interesting to see how much radiator surface area in a custom water loop would be needed to get the 3990x down t0 a reasonable temp like 65c
can Noctua's U14S TR4-SP3 in dual fan mode, fans be replaced with be quiet! Dark Rock Pro TR4 and what kind of results would be in term of performance and quietness?
Does anybody now have the final finished (non-prototype) version of this cooler for Threadripper? How do you like it? Any differences vs your old cooler?
Sad about the Enermax coolers. They were really good when they are first installed. Curious as to whether Enermax has addressed this problem. They said they did with the Liqtech II, but no one has followed up on it....
Gamers Nexus did an excellent follow up on the revision 2 units a few months ago. Plus with user feedback, it looks like the problems persist. We'd have liked to include the Enermax coolers for their sheer performance, but it's hard to even contemplate using them if they have really severe reliability issues.
The cost of designing a cooler that is properly optimised for Threadripper seems to be far more than simply making some mounting hardware for the bigger socket. I guess this is a turn off to a lot of companies given that Threadripper is still a niche (albeit important and growing, in our opinion) platform. It looks like Noctua and IceGiant have put themselves in a really good position with sTRX4/SP3 buyers by having good designs for Threadripper.
a great CPU cooler costs $80-90, and the IceGiant Prosiphon ELite costs $170. If I end up spending less than $300 on a cpu, would I be wasting my money upgrading? What if I instead went w/ the 10700k at an estimated $400?
What thermal paste did you use each time you changed the coolers? Most Thermal pastes have a 12 hour idle run time "cure" before use... some are more and I quote; "Artic silver recommends a 50-200 hour cure time" AS5 has a 1 to 2 week curing time... So WHAT DID YOU USE!!!???
Can i use prosiphon elite for i5-9600K or its just for threadripper? Can i put it on a mid tower? My case is Corsair Carbide SPEC-OMEGA RGB and my ram is trident Z royal: does it fit?
Can someone tell me where to find the Noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3 in Dual Fan configuration? I hear all this talk about it but all I can find is the single fan version. What am I missing?
If you put the GPU where it's supposed to be, like 99.9% of actual users would, then your tests might mean something. Instead you have reported on an unrealistic situation, presumably because otherwise the ice giant is choked off, and falls completely flat.
I've been told that the final version of the Icegiant uses 4 Arctic P-series fans. The pictures on their website (with the PWM splitter cables) seems to confirm this. So I'm willing to bet that the noice levels will be better.
we can't test with a cooler than we don't have yet. We were given a prototype by the company and thought it might be interesting as an indicator of the upcoming release. We will test it too dont worry.
I think you've missed the obvious. Pause the video at 16:53 and look at the way the heatpipes run on the Noctua cooler and again at 19:27 for the Bequiet cooler: on the former the heatpipes run lengthways; on the latter they run crossways. Thus the Noctua gets coverage of the edge chiplets and the Bequiet does not. Indeed at 19:27 you can clearly see that the Bequiet at best only partially covers the edge chiplets.
This is also a very good point that we noticed and considered could be to thank for Noctua's very high performance. With that said, the Cooler Master unit has a pair of heatpipes that run in the 'preferred' direction and it still suffers with limited performance. Previous testing (prior to the 3990X) has highlighted that heatpipe orientation is unlikely to be a signficant factor is either orientation provides good coverage across the hot spots. Also worth noting is that the Noctua heatpipes start to curve away from the baseplate before they reach the edge, so it's not complete coverage to the edges by the heatpipes.
Wouldn't call it obvious, tests done on AM4 by multiple people showed that it doesn't matter if heatpipes perfectly cover chiplets. Then again, it's quite hard to do the same test on Threadripper due to the IHS being much more oblong.
The coolers we tested were fine with four G.SKILL TridentZ modules. The Arctic Freezer TR 50 caused interference and would not fit. I am personally in favour of not using needlessly tallk RAM modules. G.SKILL TridentZ and Corsair Vengeance LPX are great options in my opinion, and they aren't too tall.
@@lukehill5739 Someone commented in Amazon that he was able to mount the Artic Freezer TR 50 with the TridentZ RAM by moving the fan slightly higher up. Would you please do a review on this setup?
From what I'm seeing, the performance of the Ice Giant is not better than the Noctua when the fans run at normal speeds. :( If you run the fans on the Ice Giant at full speed then it's a bit better, yes, but then it sounds like a friggin jet engine 22:19 and I wouldn't want to sit next to that when I work. So is it fair to say that that the Ice Giant is not that good compared to the Noctua? Or at least the prototype? Are there any benchmarks with the finished version and not the prototype?
What I like about Ice giant, AND what they've stated on several occasions, is that they put value on performance over acoustics... Ice giant isn't here to sooth your ears... that's noctuas job.. They're here to sooth your cpu temps as much as possible.
@@durtyred86 If that's the case, just strap a couple of server fans on the Noctua and you're probably going to have the same cooling performance at the same acoustics as Ice Giant.
@@bgtubber possibly. I might actually try that.. I have the ice giant and a NH-U12A. I know the latter isn't completely neck to neck with the D15 but it's close enough "I think". Later on I'll put some industrial fans on it and see if they outperform the 12x25's. I don't expect they will as the 25's are pretty much the the best of both airflow and static pressure.
@@durtyred86 This would be an interesting experiment! I would love it if someone would test the NH-U14S as well as this is the one I'm currently using on my Threadripper 3970x. It has larger surface area and supports 140mm fans whereas U12A is a bit smaller and supports 120mm if I'm not mistaken.
Excellent! These results kind of show what I've been suspecting. Of all the retail models available, it seems the Noctua is the only unit that was actually designed for full coverage.
It would be interesting to see the same tests done with a 3960 or 3970 chip, which should work well enough with all of these coolers given the lack of outer chiplets. Feel free to do a follow-up on that. :)
Your script is boring and unnecessary long. And your monotone voice is unbearable. Your narrative gave me headache.
@@user-yl9vs9eh1w It's more that the heat pipe orientation they chose resulted in a design that would be effective at cooling all TR4 chips if it could cool any, since the heatpipes run along the length of the package rather than the width.
The 3990x is easier to cool than the 3970x, which is easier than the 3960x. This is because the clock speeds (and therefore voltage) is lower, resulting in lower heat output. Also more dies mean the heat is more evenly spread, lowering the chance of hotspots.
Here was me thinking Gamers Nexus did the most in depth cooler comparisons......well played KitGuru. This must have been a massive amount of work.
Thanks Johnathan, im sure Luke will be happy to hear that
21:27 If you put on the thick set of rubber feet on the 2nd Noctua fan, the whiny noise largely disappears. You can find these in the box of the Noctua tower cooler. There's even a diagram in the manual that shows this. It looks like you forgot to replace the factory rubber feet on the 2nd fan with them. A useful tip if you like a bit more silence. 🙂
I ordered an IceGiant when Linus first showcased it. I am super pumped for them to be kicking so much azz.
You and me both! Now we just have to wait until at least September to get it :| . I'm gonna use the Noctua until then.
Same lovin the wait
from where did you order it? i didn't find it in amazon
@@hailahh2115 it's not even released yet...
@@hailahh2115 preorder on their website.
Thank you so much for putting in so much time into this video, I haven't seen a better researched/explained video on Threadripper cooling. Wasn't subscribed before this but I am now.
Thanks for sharing this video, impressive how Noctua NH-U14S TR4 can handle new threadrippers. Only other cooler that i would have loved to see in your comparison was the Thermalright Silver Arrow TR4, specially vs the U14S, maybe in a future video?
In Computerbase.de testing with the 2990wx back in 2018, the silver arrow TR4 performed miserably in comparison to the U14s, I doubt it would be any different now.
WIll have a look into the Silver Arrow TR4 as it looks like a beast cooler. Thanks for the heads up! Luke
@@tommihommi1 Thanks for that heads up with the Silver Arrow TR4 testing.
As we said in the video, the behaviour of the 3990X versus the previous-gen Threadripper parts is very different due to the dissimilar chiplet layout. Good.bad 2990WX coolers may not be good/bad on the 3990X, especially as the 64-core can push more power to saturate some coolers.
@@lukehill5739 it would be shocking if a cooler already saturated by a stock 2990wx performs well on a 3990x
@@tommihommi1 Indeed. I misinterpretted your comment. I too would be very surprised if something that isn't good for the 2990WX is good for the 3990X even with the different chiplet layout.
It's amazing that some of these coolers are actually capable of handling over 400watts with these huge chiplet based CPUs. More manufacturers should design Threadripper based air coolers.
I'm really curious how modern coolers could handle the new 96 core 7995WX when the plate is actually designed for that big IHS and spreadout core configuration.
Fantastic overview! You didn't just give a very conclusive review but also a very helpful guide about what to concider when trying to effectively cool a TR4 CPU. Nicely done!
Thanks for the feedback! Glad you enjoyed :)!
Looking forward to Icegiant 2020 👍 Thorough testing, nicely done.
Are they going to release it? They keep pushing their dates back this is why I fucking hate preorders.
Thank you for the video. Other channels almost never cover threadripper coolers. Always mainstream cpus. Does same thing over and over again. Keep doing videos around TR please. Btw will you review the retail version of icegiant cooler? It's supposed to come around. soon.
Thanks for the feedback! Threadripper is certainly a niche platform but it is a platform that we feel is very important to the market. Plus it's exciting and deserves coverage from many perspectives, in our opinion.
I certainly hope we will be looking at the retail version when it releases. It's due Summer 2020, which will be ideal timing for us Brits without air conditioning in our home offices. Even if the fans are high speed and loud, that cooling potential of the IceGiant is absolutely required with the high ambients.
Partially as a result of your outcomes, I am purchasing an Ice Giant tomorrow. You are awesome.
Yes, I agree, I am in the process of designing a unique cooler and the fact that you caught the die issues sent me back to the drawing board...LOL. Thank you sir.
Noctua ist still crazy impressive here. I hope they still bring a dual tower variant.
if i remember correctly, last year they showed prototype for NH-D15 successor with TR4-sized cold plate. they didn't really say anything about the release schedule though, they only said this year if nothing happens. but corona happens, so dunno.
They have confirmed they are working on it, and they have indeed showed a prototype (at last year's Computex if I remember correctly).
As with all things Noctua, they don't ever rush things.. It'll come when it comes.
If you go check their page -- the drawings for the production unit is significantly smaller and they expect more performance. It looks very promising.
I've had my Enermax cooler for 2 years... zero issues. Granted, it is the newer LiqTech II... on a 3970x.
Is the IceGiant coming out with a copper cold plate? If so when do you think they will be available to the public?? Currently building a Threadripper based pc and this video helped out immensely with deciding on the cpu cooler to go with. Keep up the awesome work!!
Anybody else think he reminds them of Hizdahr zo Loraq from Game Of Thrones?
On a more serious note, excellent job melding the data driven style of Gamers Nexus and the more easily digestible, approachable style of Lynus Tech Tips. Glad I pre-ordered the Pro-Siphone Elite. Here's to hoping the smaller final form factor works at least as good as the prototype!
This is perfect. Thank you for the work, simply excellent. I didn't expect the Be Quiet to fall so behing but the way you explained it makes perfect sense. The only thing I would love to see as an extra is a custom watercooling loop with a threadripper specific waterblock.
Watercool Heatkiller copper water block has a TR sized cold plate and full coverage water block finned area. With a Watercool res/D5 pump and an EK 45mm X 420MM rad you can run any TR 1900X to a 3990X. An open-loop water cooler is cheaper than an endless stream of air cooler upgrades.
It's all good temps because the CPU max recommend temp is 95c for the 3990X.
It would be good to see if the noctua industrial fans @2000 or 3000rpm would have any beneficial effect on cooling on the NH-14.
As for the enermax, it works ok if you buy one and do a fluid swap
Any chance to ask for a new sample, the newer version of the IceGigiant is less thick, so would be great to see how it compares with less mass.
I would have liked to have seen the Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora 360 or 420 used as the AIO in this test. Apparently the cold plate on that unit is bigger than the original Eisbaer that covered 95% of the TR4 IHS.
In Cinebench R15/R20 settings there's an option to set a number of loop runs. So no down time.
Best video. Great work!!
Did you guys noticed any "coil whine" on this motherboard ? I got RMA on 1st one and got 2nd and still producing coil whine. I even replaced GPU and PSU.
WE NEED an IceGiant mini :) or IceMini, or ICEdwarf, midget, Tiny ...
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The final design is a bit smaller than this one. If you check out the icegiant site and click on the ProSiphon Elite, there's a section called "From Prototype to ProSiphon Elite" that shows the evolution from the reference prototype in this video to the final version that is now shipping in September due to delays stemming from Covid-19 impact on manufacturing :|
here I was, hoping for news on the actual production cooler, but it's still the exact same prototype that has been making the rounds since last year.
It's nice that you managed to replicate the 2018 Computerbase.de testing results, where the noctua cooler is just crazy good, due to the high quality heatpipes.
The Noctua cooler is really good. We are pleased to see it's still an excellent choice for the new 3990X. Fingers crossed we can get our hands on the 2020 ProSiphon Elite when it releases in a few months.
It's a pity the noctua is just too big, takes over the top pcie slot. The icegisnt is much better shaped
Great review. Straight ahead clear clean data. No circus showmanship theatrics.
This is why I love my Noctua TR4 cooler the only thing I don't like it are the clips that I have never liked.
well cool to see power use of the zen 2 CPU shown, iv only seen actually hardcore overclocking show power use during benches.
you relay need to watch power use as it seems to be the best indicator on zen 2 of whats going on, comparing cooling with power use relay highlights it!
look at the power use of the hotter cores, if power is higher there in the centre and boosting harder as they have cooling if there lower power use there on the outside and thermal throttling.
id gess
This is an excellent review video. Really really well done
we've gotten used to massive ram sticks in the name of RGB and shiny heatsinks. I managed to snag some bare sk hynix chips that fit under an NHD15 in dual fan without having to lift the front fan (then it doesn't fit in the case)
Have you seen a low power ddr3 kit? Those are only a bit taller than the locking mechanism lol. I love mine! 2133mhz cl10 on a 4 dim kit at 1.55v!
i'm waiting on a ProSiphon Elite due to ship December
Linus just got asked about the thermosiphon on stream the other day and wasn't able to give much insight past the prototype. Good to see someone else talking about it
glad we helped in some way then John. thanks
What you should have included for reference is a custom loop with a proper TR water block. Because that's going to be the best performer for both temperature and noise.
I am going to try to look into custom cooling in the future. I am very keen to see how the 3990X performs under a good liquid cooling solution.
I bought the Noctua U14S years ago, I honestly never exptected it to do so well, I thought in today's age it would be falling behind, but I'm impressed, glad I bought and still using mine (dual fan setup btw)
Edit : gotta say I'm interested in the ice giant but noise does matter to me and regardless of looking at benchmark the ice giant sounds very loud
Edit 2 : Wow you have less than 100k subs and this is one of the best reviews/comparisons I've ever seen, you earned my sub 👌
Which way does the air flow on the ice? Down or up? If down aren't you heating gpu? If up you need a top venting case
Loved watching this test. However I feel something important has been left out. If a consumer is going to drop such a large amount of money on a 3990X Threadripper CPU and motherboard then I don't recommend the PC case you used for testing. A PC case along the lines of the Corsair 1000D would be a more logical choice. Mount a huge amount of fans in the front and top of the Corsair 1000D chassis (and two fans in the back) and I think your temps would be lower and more manageable regardless of the CPU air cooler you use.
The Fractal Meshify S2 is an excellent chassis that has won a lot of praise from reviewers and users. Case choice is always very, very subjective. But the Fractal Meshify S2 is certainly capable of handling big, hot Threadripper builds as it has good airflow design.
Motherboard manufacturers must create a new form factor where your cpu cooler doesn't cover your ram slots
Good review; however assertions that the ML360 TR4 only provides superficial full HS cover are wrong. Theoretically as long as the HS is large enough things like "temperature gradients" would minimise the issues you mentioned. You should have included at least one of these "true TR4 AIO's" in your tests - the results may have surprised you. Emperical observation always trumps scientific theory ....
Yikes, wish I saw your video before i got the be quiet. Thanks!! It explained a lot
OK so where do I buy my own IceGiant ProSiphon Elite?
so.. what happened with the IceGiant retail units? its been almost 6 months since their announcement and supposed retail of the slim edition.
A few months ago their website said release in spring 2020. I see that they've now changed it to summer 2020. 🤔
@@bgtubber Changed again to a September shipping.
@@Collegia_Titanica and now it is end of November...I assume of 2020?
I have the Noctua cooler on my 2700X with one fan and it rules.
It would be interesting to see how much radiator surface area in a custom water loop would be needed to get the 3990x down t0 a reasonable temp like 65c
i would add two more fans to the icegiant and run them at like 1500 and that would be more than enoff and quiet
Why has someone not gone with the ASETEK Vapochill Lightspeed II PC Case and Phase Change Cooler base unit.
I have a high end custom loop, but given the option I'd rip the fuking water out for ice giant.
Im Planning to buy this cooler for my 3600 I was wondering if its compatible with the Macube 310p and if the XPG D80 is okay for the dimm clearance
can Noctua's U14S TR4-SP3 in dual fan mode, fans be replaced with be quiet! Dark Rock Pro TR4 and what kind of results would be in term of performance and quietness?
Does anybody now have the final finished (non-prototype) version of this cooler for Threadripper? How do you like it? Any differences vs your old cooler?
@Rahq Vuth Thanks for the info! Good to know it's working well for you.
Can any one tell me the IceGiant's Height ? Is it 165.5 mm? and the 2020 version is changed or same?
Sad about the Enermax coolers. They were really good when they are first installed. Curious as to whether Enermax has addressed this problem. They said they did with the Liqtech II, but no one has followed up on it....
Gamers Nexus did an excellent follow up on the revision 2 units a few months ago. Plus with user feedback, it looks like the problems persist. We'd have liked to include the Enermax coolers for their sheer performance, but it's hard to even contemplate using them if they have really severe reliability issues.
it's weird that nobody else has filled the vacuum of true TR4/SP3 AiOs.
The cost of designing a cooler that is properly optimised for Threadripper seems to be far more than simply making some mounting hardware for the bigger socket. I guess this is a turn off to a lot of companies given that Threadripper is still a niche (albeit important and growing, in our opinion) platform.
It looks like Noctua and IceGiant have put themselves in a really good position with sTRX4/SP3 buyers by having good designs for Threadripper.
They're on version 3 now. I'm assuming version 2 wasn't any better.
It still has ligma
No pressure 🧐, but I just pre-ordered the Ice Giant 2020 based on this review. 🤨🥵🥶
Did it arrive? How good is it?
Excellent work gentlemen and gentleladies.
Thanks!!
thank you so much for this video , its a great work.
a great CPU cooler costs $80-90, and the IceGiant Prosiphon ELite costs $170. If I end up spending less than $300 on a cpu, would I be wasting my money upgrading? What if I instead went w/ the 10700k at an estimated $400?
Does anyone knows what PC case were they using for this video?
What thermal paste did you use each time you changed the coolers? Most Thermal pastes have a 12 hour idle run time "cure" before use... some are more and I quote; "Artic silver recommends a 50-200 hour cure time" AS5 has a 1 to 2 week curing time... So WHAT DID YOU USE!!!???
thank you for this test
Thanks for the Review :)
Can i use prosiphon elite for i5-9600K or its just for threadripper? Can i put it on a mid tower? My case is Corsair Carbide SPEC-OMEGA RGB and my ram is trident Z royal: does it fit?
Where can i buy extra fan clips?
I wonder what Noctua wud be like with 3k rpm fan that they also sell
Has anyone being using this for a loong time? how does it hold up after a year or 2?
Where can i buy the ice giant pro siphon elite in the uk ????
Can someone tell me where to find the Noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3 in Dual Fan configuration? I hear all this talk about it but all I can find is the single fan version. What am I missing?
@@Mappi75 So if my tower is spacious enough, I can stack one fan atop the other? Thanks for your response.
How do you think the Noctua NH-D15 would compare to this NH-U14S and the ProSiphon Elite?
The base plate is in different size
um at @10:12 how is the corsair outperforming all while having worse charts otherwise? im confused as to how it has the lowest temps
If you put the GPU where it's supposed to be, like 99.9% of actual users would, then your tests might mean something. Instead you have reported on an unrealistic situation, presumably because otherwise the ice giant is choked off, and falls completely flat.
99.9% of users don't buy Threadripper...
put bequiet fans on the icegiant!
I've been told that the final version of the Icegiant uses 4 Arctic P-series fans. The pictures on their website (with the PWM splitter cables) seems to confirm this.
So I'm willing to bet that the noice levels will be better.
My Corsair H115i Rgb Pro XT isnt detected in icue and it pisses me off.
Hey luke you from Cardiff? Cant hide that accent from me boyo!!
Noise ratings should be measured in Sone.
Noctua is King. And they never mentioned the Noctua nh-d15 (brown or black)
Why test with the IceGiant prototype? Wait till the thinner IceGiant retail version releases for real numbers.
we can't test with a cooler than we don't have yet. We were given a prototype by the company and thought it might be interesting as an indicator of the upcoming release. We will test it too dont worry.
Great Video!
when can i put this in my gaming PC?(i7-i9-Ryzen 3600 etc)
Noctua are beasts
Thanks for the content
I think you've missed the obvious. Pause the video at 16:53 and look at the way the heatpipes run on the Noctua cooler and again at 19:27 for the Bequiet cooler: on the former the heatpipes run lengthways; on the latter they run crossways. Thus the Noctua gets coverage of the edge chiplets and the Bequiet does not. Indeed at 19:27 you can clearly see that the Bequiet at best only partially covers the edge chiplets.
This is also a very good point that we noticed and considered could be to thank for Noctua's very high performance. With that said, the Cooler Master unit has a pair of heatpipes that run in the 'preferred' direction and it still suffers with limited performance. Previous testing (prior to the 3990X) has highlighted that heatpipe orientation is unlikely to be a signficant factor is either orientation provides good coverage across the hot spots.
Also worth noting is that the Noctua heatpipes start to curve away from the baseplate before they reach the edge, so it's not complete coverage to the edges by the heatpipes.
Wouldn't call it obvious, tests done on AM4 by multiple people showed that it doesn't matter if heatpipes perfectly cover chiplets. Then again, it's quite hard to do the same test on Threadripper due to the IHS being much more oblong.
Why are u using the u14s when the nh-D15s is clearly the more popular and superior cooler in the noctua series???
please keep blinking, i'm almost there
Thanks, good video
What about ram clearances? I also think someone would need to be pretty rich to go pushing on a $2000 cpu...
The coolers we tested were fine with four G.SKILL TridentZ modules. The Arctic Freezer TR 50 caused interference and would not fit. I am personally in favour of not using needlessly tallk RAM modules. G.SKILL TridentZ and Corsair Vengeance LPX are great options in my opinion, and they aren't too tall.
@@lukehill5739 Someone commented in Amazon that he was able to mount the Artic Freezer TR 50 with the TridentZ RAM by moving the fan slightly higher up. Would you please do a review on this setup?
Check your microphone, a lot of hssss sound
noctua WTF? only 86c???? and darck rock 4 proposted to be a superior heatsync is overheated? wtf?
From what I'm seeing, the performance of the Ice Giant is not better than the Noctua when the fans run at normal speeds. :( If you run the fans on the Ice Giant at full speed then it's a bit better, yes, but then it sounds like a friggin jet engine 22:19 and I wouldn't want to sit next to that when I work. So is it fair to say that that the Ice Giant is not that good compared to the Noctua? Or at least the prototype? Are there any benchmarks with the finished version and not the prototype?
What I like about Ice giant, AND what they've stated on several occasions, is that they put value on performance over acoustics... Ice giant isn't here to sooth your ears... that's noctuas job.. They're here to sooth your cpu temps as much as possible.
@@durtyred86 If that's the case, just strap a couple of server fans on the Noctua and you're probably going to have the same cooling performance at the same acoustics as Ice Giant.
@@bgtubber possibly. I might actually try that.. I have the ice giant and a NH-U12A. I know the latter isn't completely neck to neck with the D15 but it's close enough "I think". Later on I'll put some industrial fans on it and see if they outperform the 12x25's. I don't expect they will as the 25's are pretty much the the best of both airflow and static pressure.
@@durtyred86 This would be an interesting experiment! I would love it if someone would test the NH-U14S as well as this is the one I'm currently using on my Threadripper 3970x. It has larger surface area and supports 140mm fans whereas U12A is a bit smaller and supports 120mm if I'm not mistaken.
Is there no problem wen running teh GPU in the 3th solt ?
It depends on the motherboard. For Threadripper boards with x16 or x8 links to the 3rd slot, it will be fine in general. Luke
@@KitGuruTech thank you, so i will try it on the trx40 msi creator board :)
what about nh15 se
i bet you do a mean Arnold Schwarzenegger voice impression huh! you’re like the toned down version of his voice ✌️
Nice video. However, I'm curious as to how a full open loop with two 360mm radiators would compare with the air coolers you tested.
You'd be comparing $120 air cooler to $600+ of water cooling. I'd like to see that David and Goliath match-up too.
@@nickname1392 I think I paid closer for $800 for my open loop setup.
Might be cheaper to build the PC in a mini fridge LOL
Prosiphon + Ryzen 7 2700xt = Good Idea?
Overkill. But you knew that already lol... and in this industry, overkill=futureproof.
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@@durtyred86 Exactly! lol
good video
Nice guy
You sound like arnold lmao