Apple M2 MacBook Air - 100 Hours Later: It's Ridiculous

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  • @AndrewEthanZeng
    @AndrewEthanZeng  ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Apple just announced the new 15" variant at a really reasonable $1,299 and the 13" in this video is now lowered to $1,099.
    Which size would you get? MacBook Pro M2 Max Review: th-cam.com/video/jwW5001GYaM/w-d-xo.html

    • @arcadiosincero
      @arcadiosincero 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      13". I just switched to an MBA 13 from a MBP 16 because I got tired of lugging around that heavy ass MBP. So basically going from one extreme to another I guess. I'm suspecting, though, that a MBP 14 would be the sweet spot for me. I'll see how well this MBA 13 goes for my use case.

    • @KeremKrm-p3u
      @KeremKrm-p3u 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you come across overheating issues lot?

  • @75and1
    @75and1 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I had it for 4 days and I can’t put it down. Even coming from an M1 AIR, this thing is a beauty. I went for starlight, 8 core gpu, 16gb ram, 512gb SSD

    • @healthymythic
      @healthymythic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro you could have gone with 14"inch pro models with few extra dollars...btw great purchase 👍

    • @75and1
      @75and1 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@healthymythic I know, but I prefer portability vs power. With this configuration is still enough for my usage and the 14” is bulkier

    • @jackhamm7745
      @jackhamm7745 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Exact model I got. Love it so far. I wanted the portability and I'm not using it for power use (I have a desktop for that). So it's perfect.

    • @Aryonwilica218
      @Aryonwilica218 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is exactly what I was thinking about buying I want to start video editing and maybe a little music mixing and audio should I add on the Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro to the total

    • @jackhamm7745
      @jackhamm7745 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Aryonwilica218 If you're going to really get into video editing you may want to consider getting a Pro model. Not that the air can't handle most of it, but it could be slow at buffering and exporting. Make sure to look at reviews about those tasks and how the AirM2 handles it. Video editing is the definition of "power use".

  • @notalexandra
    @notalexandra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is 8GB / 512GB a decent configuration or is it better to bump up to 16/512

  • @yasensf1
    @yasensf1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Considering the read/write on the MA2, would you recommend get upgraded MA1 (16gbs and 512gb ssd) instead of base MA2?

  • @NothingButGam3s
    @NothingButGam3s 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I get a M2 with 16gb ram & 256gb is that okay? This will be my 1st Apple product. I'm just going to use it to type documents and entertainment media purposes mainly.

  • @TheRealWinsletFan
    @TheRealWinsletFan ปีที่แล้ว

    How the heck did you get it THAT dirty in one day. I bought the Midnight and it's beautiful. I does need a wipe to dump the fingerprints now and again, but tbh so do all my other gadgets.

  • @yourday1363
    @yourday1363 ปีที่แล้ว

    “until tho it came to the literally hundreds of tabs opened four video editing 4k files in Final Cut Pro that’s when it started to struggle” yeah no shit.

  • @d.spence5384
    @d.spence5384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    does anyone have the 67W USB-C charger with the air and is it worthwhile?

    • @AndrewEthanZeng
      @AndrewEthanZeng  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It came with my 14" MacBook M1 and it charges this M2 Air from 0 to 50% in 30 minutes.

  • @Gary_S
    @Gary_S 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What game is that at 04:00 pls?

  • @butchgo8930
    @butchgo8930 ปีที่แล้ว

    Users who have M1 Airs will have sense upgrading to MacBook Pro 14” or larger. Hence, it’s mostly first time users who buy M2 Airs and won’t mind or feel what clickbait measurebators say in their apples to oranges comparison.

  • @CineDesi
    @CineDesi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How often you have your computer near water gives me anxiety.
    #macbookoxygen

    • @AndrewEthanZeng
      @AndrewEthanZeng  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My apologies. Someone also said something about it being always on the edge.

  • @JoshAmes1980
    @JoshAmes1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +309

    Just got mine yesterday (not the base model) and honestly so far it's the best computer I've ever owned. It's super sleek, slim, light and handles anything I throw at it with ease and has barely gotten warm so far. I'm very impressed.

    • @Lost_In_LA
      @Lost_In_LA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It's a dream laptop for vast majority of end users. I love the new look.

    • @Lost_In_LA
      @Lost_In_LA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Ramp Midnight.

    • @Lost_In_LA
      @Lost_In_LA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Ramp It’s fantastic. Fingerprints have never bothered me for some reason.

    • @troywalt4834
      @troywalt4834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try low power mode btw

    • @skoolynugenator1802
      @skoolynugenator1802 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How’s the screen?

  • @Justin.Franks
    @Justin.Franks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +557

    You really should have clarified that the SSD speed issue is _only_ for the 256 GB option. All of the larger SSD options use two NAND chips, but you insinuate that having only one NAND chip is present across all M2 Air models.

    • @sammyjammy6647
      @sammyjammy6647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      But let’s just admit, apple didn’t clock the m2 correctly, the base ssd shouldn’t have been missing a nand, the thermals on the m2 air are inferior to the m1. The heat sink on the m1 is better. The performance difference between this generation and last is not significant enough. Skip the m2

    • @AndrewEthanZeng
      @AndrewEthanZeng  2 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      Thanks for clarifying an important point Justin!

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@sammyjammy6647 I understand that the heat sink on the M2 had to be reduced due to the risk of breaking the law by having the base heat up too much due to passive cooling with the 10-core GPU and higher frequency CPU cores. I think you should understand Apple fully tests all the options and has many variables to consider. In this case they decided to not risk higer temps on the base (and law suits) and went for thermal management to regulate the temps. In some interviews Apple reps clearly state that if you are doing intensive sustained work, then do not buy the M2 Air, clear advice, and they add, instead buy a Mac with a fan.
      Apple cannot be blamed for people ignoring advice or not using common sense, that is down to the individual.

    • @deividas76
      @deividas76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@andyH_England I dont get it why Air models exist then? Why it so difficult to put cooler?

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@deividas76 Why do fanless laptops exist? Because that is what people want! The Air was the best selling laptop in the world in 2021, outselling every variant in windows-land. The vast majority of PC users, 90% plus just need a machine to do the light work of say tablets but with no need for touch support. They do not need a big laptop with fans and noise, and vents. They want light and small and there is nothing close to it in Windows-world ATM (WOA coming soon).

  • @zeroxjf
    @zeroxjf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +333

    It’s simple: if what you do causes so much stress that the M2 Air starts to heat throttle, get a 14 inch Pro. For most people, it would be near impossible to make it heat throttle. I’ve been testing a base model for weeks and even with my most intense workload, it never gets hot. Never gets above 120 degrees F

    • @sullychow4123
      @sullychow4123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Doesn't excuse Apples design nd pricing for a machine that will usually thermal throttle. Spending more money is a catch all solution lol.

    • @rickbarrington
      @rickbarrington 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      At 120F it will be severely degrading cpu performance and over time burn out the gpu

    • @blahguy164
      @blahguy164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      120F is roughly less than 49c. Completely within spec without causing damage.

    • @mattlikespandas7019
      @mattlikespandas7019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@rickbarrington no

    • @ChachoTrades
      @ChachoTrades 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If im a day trader, and ill run ThinkOrSwim software, alongside a zoom call, Discord, and multiple tabs open for around 8 hours connected to one 49’ monitor, and 2 35’ curved monitors a day do you think an m1 MBA 16/215g would work ?

  • @_connic
    @_connic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The only thing you should consider regarding storage, is the size. Speed is not gonna be an issue 99%. Reason is simple, if you are gonna be transferring big files (not many small ones) then yes you will get 1.5GB per second instead of 2.5GB sec, which results in 15-20 second loss for a 50GB file (keep that in mind). Now if you are gonna be transferring many small files for a total of 40-50GB the difference will be much smaller, because of random read/write speeds, which are almost identical between the 2 options. This is the important thing anyone fails to mention. However, i would suggest a 512GB model just for the size of it alone. But if you can only update 1 thing then go for RAM which is much much more important. Storage you can hook up an ssd, for ram it's impossible. And as i already said, internal ssd speed, barely even matters between the different config options.

  • @buckybarnes3015
    @buckybarnes3015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Just got one and dang this is a nice computer, very impressed. As a light user this is perfect for my level of work and daily computing tasks

  • @EverythingGizmo
    @EverythingGizmo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    After watching Jon Rettinger’s new video on Apple’s controlling PR team, it’s now easy to see which reviews are honest and transparent. And this one definitely is. Thank you for sharing a balanced review that sheds light on the flawsrather than simping

    • @gregoriom.2502
      @gregoriom.2502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what's the tl;dr on jon's video?

    • @RealJoseph123
      @RealJoseph123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@gregoriom.2502 Apple doesn’t give him review units because of dummy units and his iPhone XR review was negative. Apple told him to take it down and he refused so they never invite him to Apple events or even speak to him again. They historically hated leaks, but the iPhone XR review was the nail in the coffin for no communication with his channel. I’d keep in mind he runs clickbait channels like the Apple Circle.

    • @gregoriom.2502
      @gregoriom.2502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@RealJoseph123 thanks, so in summary nothing too surprising but I imagine it would instill fear in channels who want to work with apple or why others hold nothing but praise for them

    • @TheAppleLoadout
      @TheAppleLoadout 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RealJoseph123 The Apple Circle is the worst "Apple" channel. Rettinger's video about the PR story was typical. Played the victim when he deliberately used the dummy phones.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That was sour grapes and he should have just taken down the video as Apple has clear guidelines with NDA'a as do other OEMs. It was nothing out of the ordinary, C4Tech in India did a Samsung review they did not like and Samsung stopped sending him early access. I think you are very naive if you do not think that those that do negative reviews are going to keep access, as no one with any sense will keep sneding devices to influencers that are producing anti-videos.

  • @MesozoicZac
    @MesozoicZac ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I snagged one at Costco recently. Base model for school work. I wanted the midnight, but when I saw the display models, and I saw all of the nasty fingerprints on the midnight, I went for starlight which looked immaculate in comparison. I can’t do visible fingerprints, they kill me. Starlight’s great though! Love how subtle of a cold color it is, almost looks silver in some lights. Love it so far though! Perfect for homework and the very light video editing/exporting I do. Can recommend to anyone looking for a smashing laptop that won’t break the bank too badly.

  • @mrduck4623
    @mrduck4623 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    bruh I forgot to use MacBook oxygen is my machine done for??!!

  • @Archivist42
    @Archivist42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I do think it’s worth pointing out the SSD slowdown only impacts 256GB capacity. If you go for 512GB I believe this is two 256GB chips which gives the same result as before

    • @AndrewEthanZeng
      @AndrewEthanZeng  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thank you for pointing it out to and covering an important piece I missed!

    • @LayCritic
      @LayCritic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      which was not an issue in m1 mba, so the new gen is downgraded, wth? Apple is being cheap AGAIN.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@LayCritic I tested my workload on my MB Pro 13 M2 and I found that the 256GB SSD was fine. In fact, I mainly use random writes and reads and they were faster than the M1 256GB Air. I simply do not have a workflow where I do 1GB transfers, as the speed tests show.
      Other videos show, that as a whole the M2 is faster and better than the M1, sometimes by BIG margins (media engine in ProRes). You just need to buy the correct RAM. If you get 16GB then the 256GB drive slower speeds are negated as you do not need swap.

    • @terrytrvn
      @terrytrvn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andyH_England so if you were to get the 16GB ram with the 256SSD, you shouldn’t see any of these slowdown issues that everyone has been complaining about?

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@terrytrvn Correct, as no swap, or very little swap is needed. I would say to anyone, get 16GB if you are buying for 5+ years as it will future-proof and give headroom if your usage changes over the lifetime. For storage, that is what TB3 is for, just buy a superfast external drive.

  • @AndrewEthanZeng
    @AndrewEthanZeng  2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Here's my final verdict and follow up review after spending 3 months with the M2 Air as my main laptop, enjoy! th-cam.com/video/RHpk-KS6UM8/w-d-xo.html

    • @AdamBuker
      @AdamBuker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes. The slower SSD issue is only for the 256 GB option. Even at that, the slower SSD speed would really only impact use cases using applications that would eat a ton of SWAP memory. If you fall into such a use case, you're either upgrading from the base model anyway or more likely you'll need a beefier computer like a 14" or 16" MacBook Pro. For general purpose computing (web, email, productivity, casual photo/video editing, casual gaming) it's a great machine and is exactly what it was designed for.

    • @corianderhater
      @corianderhater 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great video! How does the m2 MBA perform when playing dota 2 for extended periods of time? Does it lag?

    • @lucie442
      @lucie442 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      MacBook oxygen :) So Andrew, someone like me who has a ton of tabs open, uses a CD player to attach to it, uses a lot of TH-cam, wants to edit videos for vlogging and also uses interactive learning softwares, creating digital media, etc would the MacBook Pro M1 (or M2) be better suited? And if so what specs would you recommend ?

    • @holdencaulfied7492
      @holdencaulfied7492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Andrew, are you saying the slower read/write isn't a problem if I get 512GB? Please be clear.

    • @SonnyNoles
      @SonnyNoles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm upgrading from my old 2013 MBA to the M2 8GB/256SSD. I don't do any video editing/rendering or gaming on it. It's light photo editing 5% of the time and mostly a computer for web browsing for my wife. Should I be concerned about noticing any slowdown with the SSD? I would think going from a 1.3Ghz i5/4GB/128SSD for reference. Thx.

  • @ChachoTrades
    @ChachoTrades 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who tf buys a base model bro lmao 😂 complaining about things that you caused yourself. Have to be informed when purchasing these technologies bro.

  • @leoribeirop
    @leoribeirop ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think would be important for you to mention that the 256GB one is the only version of the MacBook Air M2 has one slot instead two. 512GB, 1TB and yo are still 2 slots like the M1 and has even faster speeds in reading and writings files/softwares!

  • @Mangold108
    @Mangold108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    because of these problem I think the 512SSD upgrade SHOULD cost 100$ instead of 200! period.

    • @hansmoran1219
      @hansmoran1219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah but it's apple lol. Can't expect too much from them

  • @laalbujhakkar
    @laalbujhakkar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really do not like the way this accent requires people to pronounces the vowels. Is it NZ or AUS ... it sounds very Kermit the Froggy. No offence, it's the accent nothing against you. Thanks for the review.

  • @joserodriguezgarcia4314
    @joserodriguezgarcia4314 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the help! MacBook Oxygen

  • @DhruvPatelDearDhruv
    @DhruvPatelDearDhruv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I am a developer for more than 10 years, I received MBA M2 (24GB, 512GB) last week. This fulfills all my needs while developing app and on the go.
    I have not encountered the CPU throttling on my daily use cases so far. However, at the given price range someone might look for the pro models.
    I am pretty satisfied so far! :)

    • @DhruvPatelDearDhruv
      @DhruvPatelDearDhruv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@Distilled Machine Learning Mostly android related, so - Android studio( emulators and sometimes mobile screen mirroring), VS Code, very ofter Xcode, and other power hungry apps like, slack, teams, chrome. Since this is my work MBA I do not use it for the video or photo editing, However, I am a windows user and have the acer nitro 7 2019 model which I use for all the above stuff(excluding xcode ofcourse) and photo/video editing plus few other software, too.

    • @cyden2949
      @cyden2949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you think I would have problems while using fl studio for a few hours I dont think I would but I never had a MBA so I dont really know What to expect

    • @DhruvPatelDearDhruv
      @DhruvPatelDearDhruv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cyden2949 hmm, I am unsure about how intensive your task would be. If it runs intensively on CPU and GPU for more than 20 minutes continuously, this might hit the processing threshold. Small bursty tasks are great on this, if you wanna run for the longer period , I would suggest to go for the active cooling systems like mac pro, passive cooling in MBA is needed when it is too hot. :)

    • @DhruvPatelDearDhruv
      @DhruvPatelDearDhruv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Jo A Copenhagen, DK. we just had summer! :)

  • @montex66
    @montex66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    OMG I am so sick of hearing about the single SSD chip in the base model M2 Air. I bet none of the reviewers could tell the difference between the speed of 256 and 512 SSD chips if they didn't have benchmark test running to tell them. Can you tell the difference between 50 ms and 100ms? I can't. Put your money where your mouth is and do a blind test where you can see the difference or else spare us the tedious whining.

  • @anuvanshsinghlancer1162
    @anuvanshsinghlancer1162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm going for the midnight. It just looks stunning and If you got a MacBook then its like obvious that you will be cleaning it once in a day. (use microfiber clothe )
    I am actually buying for coding, and basic video editing. Is it worth it for that?

    • @fatalghost1689
      @fatalghost1689 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How is it so far, getting an m2 air tomorrow in midnight and all these reviews have me worried about the damage and scratches the color attracts with it

  • @mdarks4117
    @mdarks4117 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The midnight colour is nice. The in store models show extreme wear & scratches in & around the ports (especially mag safe). How’s the paint been for u around the ports?

  • @Hof79905
    @Hof79905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don’t enter a volkswagon in the Indy 500 as it will thermal throddle. Enter a race car.

  • @IAmKenArts
    @IAmKenArts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow. This is the first video that I have seen where the fingerprints are really shown. It’s bad. I bought it in space grey and am happy with it.

    • @AndrewEthanZeng
      @AndrewEthanZeng  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I should start placing OCD trigger warnings on midnight color reviews

  • @wtfhappenedtome
    @wtfhappenedtome 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I much prefer your videos without background music. I love your videos, you are my go to guy for tech reviews etc.

    • @AndrewEthanZeng
      @AndrewEthanZeng  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I appreciate it! I really should run a poll on this

  • @bryanbuff
    @bryanbuff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You’d think in 2022 they’d be able to add some sort of coating to mitigate the fingerprints. This thing looks a stainless steel fridge from 2005.

    • @AndrewEthanZeng
      @AndrewEthanZeng  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be a great addition in the entire iPhone, iPad and Mac line. I had to laugh at the comparison. 😁

  • @hummersd
    @hummersd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just to clarify, reviewers aren’t “gifted” their units. They have several days to use the units to test and prepare review videos, but they have to send them back.

    • @sismachine
      @sismachine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      sure, but if you want to review the next gadget...

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sismachine If you do a fair review and can prove your issues then OEMs will not object, but if your review is fake or agenda-driven then you are not going to get further review units, and that will be the case with all OEMs.
      Just look at Intel, now they only send out units to the preview channels, that are just advertisements really. I suspect they also have NDA's not allowing comparisons with Macs. I saw a YT channel that wanted to do the M1 Mac -v- a selection of Intel machines, but the OEMs all refused to send devices for comparison (for obvious reasons). I feel that people that just think Apple is the only one that tries to market effectively are seriously deluded, as no one, whoever you are wants bad reviews.

  • @Antonocon
    @Antonocon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    All I ever hear on this laptop is that it's not great for anyone that needs a good performance but it's good for anyone looking for an entry level laptop. So is my previous macbook air from a few years ago. And so are all the other recent macbook airs. I'm going to stick with my old one, there seems nothing here to inspire me to upgrade. I hope they do better next year.

  • @nikhllogic1248
    @nikhllogic1248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    A very thoughtful review Andrew. M1 Air seems to be the best bang for buck laptop on the market and the one many would find most value in, particularly students I'd imagine. Now...to stop myself buying an M2 Air. MacBook Oxygen :)

    • @AndrewEthanZeng
      @AndrewEthanZeng  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The struggle of keeping our wallets in check as tech heads haha

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The M2 Air is clearly a good bit better than the M1 in the correct config for your work, but the M1 is still fantastic and great value if you do not want the extra features the M2 Air has.
      Personally, I think the M2 Air is worth the extra $200 but you need 16GB in 2022 if you are doing any regular pro-work or heavy multitasking.

  • @nicolasb.henry294
    @nicolasb.henry294 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I use a base M2 MBA and it is a real powerhouse for my work flow. Photo editing, light retouche, organising my work and writing new project. It is the perfect laptop to work on train or on cafés when you are on the go. Of course if you using this machine to edit 8 k videos while having 50 tabs open and creating a 3d project in the meantime this machine will die. This is a MacBook Air not a Pro. For the rest in real life using the "slow SSD" is definitely not an issue.

  • @Vaptomwen
    @Vaptomwen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Fantastic looks, love the portability but 14 m1 pro on sale is only Au$500 more for same ram & ssd . Otherwise the air would be a clear cut win.

    • @lunariz97
      @lunariz97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's either you buy it at the $1499 model for "entry level" laptop using it for basic stuff; or you really value the portability that the Air brings over 14 inch MacBook Pro but still don't really push for sustained workload.
      If you're looking for the best value it's definitely the base model M1 Air, if you're looking for performance you should go to the 14 inch Pro even at the base model.

    • @Breadfan00
      @Breadfan00 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In Germany the difference between the two is only 90 bucks…
      But I really don’t want the thick and heavy pro…

  • @RobertaMacklin
    @RobertaMacklin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I really appreciated the distinction you made between the user case for the Air and the M1 Pro lineup. I think the MacBook Oxygen is the way to go. I look forward to watching your long term review.

  • @lessteza
    @lessteza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the background music?

  • @DavidJeffreyOConnor
    @DavidJeffreyOConnor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The SSD speeds are only an issue on the 256gb model. The 512gb model and above use 2x SSD modules that allow for simultaneous R/W. Moral to the story, don't buy the base 256gb model.

  • @Mad.Maxx.77
    @Mad.Maxx.77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Excellent video, mate! Got my new M2 MacBook Air 16GB/512GB a week early this past Saturday and thought I'd post my thoughts. It's a beautiful machine with build quality that's superior to any Dell XPS laptops I've owned. Space Grey looks good. I wanted Midnight but the scratch and fingerprint issues chased me away. I don't record/edit video so it runs smooth/cool with Office 2021 apps and streaming video. Feels strange using a laptop after over a year with my M1 iPad Pro 12.9" and magic keyboard. I keep reaching for the Air's screen to touch an icon or scroll through a website. Had no idea how acclimated I became with the iPad's touch screen. Same with the iPad’s Face ID vs. Touch ID on the Air. Face ID easily wins that battle. If I made the decision today, I prefer my iPad + magic keyboard setup. Never thought I'd be so comfortable with a tablet. I still expect to keep my Air after getting comfortable with the advantages of a true laptop. Based on my 4 days of use, Apple is gonna sell a ton of these new Airs.

    • @AndrewEthanZeng
      @AndrewEthanZeng  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great write up and thanks for sharing!

    • @Mad.Maxx.77
      @Mad.Maxx.77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndrewEthanZeng Thanks, man! Glad to help!!

    • @TheOriginalJohnDoe
      @TheOriginalJohnDoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a data scientist, I've made the exact same choice. After a ton of research and bechmark checking, I think that M2 MBA 16G/512G and any non-midnight color will give you the best bang for your buck. I hate the fingerprints issue and 8GB memory is not engough for me these days, so I need at least 16G memory, and 256G is not enough as well, so upgrading to 512G as well. MBA preferably, as the MBP is basically with the fan and benchmark say that MBA is as good as MBP, so MBA would be the best option I'd say.

    • @trollingextreme
      @trollingextreme 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This comment reads as if it had been written by AI

    • @richiezubiri3385
      @richiezubiri3385 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trollingextreme His name is John Doe

  • @scottt3491
    @scottt3491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for a great review. Since I'm upgrading from a 2.3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 from mid 2012, I think M2 is still a major upgrade! Macbook oxygen.

  • @BugGenerat0r
    @BugGenerat0r ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should have mentioned that the SSD is slower only on the base (256GB) model. Major omission. All the other sizes use 2 chips instead of 1.

  • @SparkycgdHD
    @SparkycgdHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It's EASY to get caught up in reviews. From real-life users though, I've only heard positive. From my research and experience, I've ordered m2 air 16gb ram 512 gb ssd

    • @sykes2698
      @sykes2698 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s literally exactly what I ordered last week. The 16ram version and 512 gb ssd completely removes the issues faced by new m2 MacBook Air users, so I went the safe route

    • @jamesangier624
      @jamesangier624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@sykes2698 im a software developer and i also ordered the 16gb ram & 512gb ssd. been doing a fair bit of work on it this week and its held up amazingly, never thermal throttled but obv thats only an issue if youre a video or photo editor in which the pro line up is there for those people. enjoy your mac!

    • @sykes2698
      @sykes2698 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jamesangier624 thanks James! Looks like I made the right decision.

    • @ianmumford7176
      @ianmumford7176 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got the same

    • @carlosguillen3251
      @carlosguillen3251 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      just got mine today! it’s awesome same configuration

  • @go0glyguy672
    @go0glyguy672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    would you recomend 8/512 or 16/256 for a basic user

    • @panayiotispanayides2141
      @panayiotispanayides2141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There was a great review about which of the two you should have if you could only afford one. The 16Gb came out on top for performance. As neither are upgradeable get the ram and you can always add an external SSD.

    • @SameedChowdhury
      @SameedChowdhury 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      16gb of ram is better. The SSD speed doesn't matter for a basic user, but 8gb is slow and won't last as long.

  • @prod.bytreez4563
    @prod.bytreez4563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey I purchased this two days ago ( the base model ) and was wondering would i be fine with just web browsing and emails and like movies for flights should i be good?

  • @FKP-7
    @FKP-7 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People, most of us use the computer for web browsing, video watching, coding and writing pages/documents in word… this, the m1, or the pros will do the job… budget is the matter. Real world scenarios don’t give a fuck regarding speed/heat tests…buy what you feel like.

  • @marcuslafferty7619
    @marcuslafferty7619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There must be more people out there wondering...
    For the non-pro power user, will it cope just fine for photo and video editing as a hobby, occasionally doing things like...
    - Final Cut Pro, Lightroom, editing/exporting RAW images in RAW/iPhone cinematic mode, 4k GoPro and drone shots, and eventually TH-cam uploads.
    Or is it better to pay £300 extra for the 14" M1 Pro for the bigger SSD, better GPU, Pro-motion, HDR etc etc.
    Essentially my question is...
    Will pairing a (16/256gb) M2 MBA with a (2 TB) Sandisk Extreme SSD, cope just fine for these non-all day everyday tasks, or is it likely to still throttle, lag, drop frames, and best to just get the 14" M1 MBP?

    • @lindseyatkinson1879
      @lindseyatkinson1879 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am wondering the same thing. Great question! 😃

  • @eleventeen5051
    @eleventeen5051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Nailed it. Kick ass cinematic and honest review as always.

  • @FLM_OFF
    @FLM_OFF 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm probably gonna get the m2 macbook air because I just do school work, watch videos and keep a lot of tabs open from microsoft edge.

  • @Catelynmeow
    @Catelynmeow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    When the midnight blue M2 debuted, I thought it was the sexiest thing ever. When I specced it up to 1TB and 16GB, it came very close to the 14" MBP in price, so I ended up spending the extra to get the 14" MBP instead. Now that reviews of the Midnight Blue are out, it looks like a smudgy oily mess with fingerprints all over, and I'm so happy that I didn't fall for its false seductiveness.

    • @A2Kaid
      @A2Kaid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 14" MBP has a widely reported issue with the screen easily cracking. As for fingerprints you can get a dbrand skin.

    • @Catelynmeow
      @Catelynmeow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@A2Kaid those screen cracking issues are on the 13 inch air and mbp, not the 14 inch miniled screen.

    • @ZsZw
      @ZsZw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@A2Kaid Do you have one? I have one with 10 core. M2 cannot best 14.

    • @sweetdaddy77
      @sweetdaddy77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I fell for the seductiveness. Can’t wait for it to get here.

    • @Catelynmeow
      @Catelynmeow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sweetdaddy77 I don't blame you! It's a good laptop!

  • @nikoart4656
    @nikoart4656 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am 100% dar mode team, and I don’t think the fingerprints will bother me, I know the fingerprints are going to bother me, so I’ll probably go with space grey

  • @akizer0
    @akizer0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    For people on the fence and afraid about the SSD, DONT.
    If you have a really specific heavy workload that tax the cpu hard, go for Macbook Pro 14". otherwise, The Air M2 is great mobile workhorse. Pair it with 16GB of RAM, minimizing the swap that tax the SSD. Dont feel obligated to upgrade the SSD if you dont upgrade the RAM first. If you have budget for both upgrade (I dont), and have to pick only 1, go for RAM.
    A certain YT will points about the SSD speed, but that was done with 8GB RAM 256GB vs 16GB RAM 512GB. So it is actually 2 variables, not single variable.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You are spot on. The YT creator in question did many videos but never did the baseline of 16GB/256GB which would have once and for all told us if it was the slower SSD, or teas it too little RAM for what you were doing? Other creators did do that comparison and proved conclusively that the 8GB of RAM, not the 256GB of NAND was the main culprit in performance loss.
      The take from this OTT 256GB drama, is that if you get the RAM your work needs then the 256GB makes very little difference to the average user, and the MB Air is mainly for that demographic (no fan ultrabook).

    • @averageyoutubeuser2475
      @averageyoutubeuser2475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      most accurate comment i’ve seen in the whole week. Talked with a friend at apple before purchasing the M2 and advised me to go 16gb. Indeed it’s a great decision. I’m a cloud based service addict so, that’s the way!

  • @MrEliteSoap
    @MrEliteSoap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Got it yesterday... hope it wasnt a mistake after seeing this. Should be def. cheaper

  • @gustavoortega2895
    @gustavoortega2895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why do people compare it to a MBP? They are two different products for different segments. If you get an MBA and spec it out to 2000 dollars, just get a Pro. If you're upgrading all that, you're NOT the segment for the air.

  • @lambertj.2892
    @lambertj.2892 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got the base M2 Air and it's fantastic. Fastest computer I've ever used. Just get one.

  • @Haloitzchris
    @Haloitzchris ปีที่แล้ว

    Clean my mac is a horrible app bro. I didn't realize they sponsored u and u sold it so well. Bruv I just got my m1 max and this made Blackmagic ssd reader trip. I couldn't read it and then it was slower than yesterday. Horrible. Ull delete primary files. Its not designed by Apple. Sooo I might have to return this machine get a new one and see how it rolls.

  • @sotonin
    @sotonin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not a solid offer. People compare it to the pro because it's almost as expensive. You are better off buying the pro or the M1. period. Nothing you can say will change that fact. It's worse than the M1 and more expensive. Pass

  • @notarealhandle123
    @notarealhandle123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Over-reiterating about 256GB SSD speed has become so pathetic. Get a bigger SSD, and it will perform well. Stop wining about it.

  • @teslatalk42069
    @teslatalk42069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a horrible finish to allow such insane fingerprinting. They dropped the ball hard on that one. Give us a Product Red macbook already apple. Cheese and Rice!!!!

  • @fightnight14
    @fightnight14 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love the new form factor it's so nice to hold on it doesn't dig in your hands unlike the older design

  • @moonpunk
    @moonpunk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm sorry but it feels like you are being a bit evasive with the facts on the SSD. The slow performance is only in relation to the base single NAND chip 256GB model, if you opt for any of the other configurations you get two NAND chips which then uses dual channels on the M2 chip and significantly increases performance. I'm confident that you know this, but you didn't mention it??!!

  • @sebastien7758
    @sebastien7758 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I ordered mine today ive always wanted a mac i find that allot of people complain about products this opinion varys for different people i will test mine when i get it its not the end of the world that the ssd is not fast enough

  • @AR9ify
    @AR9ify ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate the constant begging for, like, comment and subscribe. TH-camrs are the modern day street beggars. Here, you got a comment.

  • @fatpanda1597
    @fatpanda1597 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im waiting for better mac mini. Apple hardware getting ridiculously overpriced.

  • @MaxBabilunga
    @MaxBabilunga ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, it’s slower but where will you notice it? Especially an average m2 user who uses browser and text editor

  • @selametwibisono
    @selametwibisono ปีที่แล้ว

    its still an ssd not hdd, how slow its?…… why you so hurry with an ssd, if you want more faster n realible….. get mb pro 14

  • @isaacbounds7577
    @isaacbounds7577 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love the dark mode! one of the coolest features I've seen with a MacBook, I upgraded from a MacBook Pro I bought 7 years ago and let me tell you, its one of the best MacBooks I've ever had, if you wait several years between upgrading you'll see huge improvements!

  • @midlife_minimalist
    @midlife_minimalist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I ordered midnight but debated changing to Starlight due to fingerprints. But I don’t like the black keys against starlight and figured that is what I will look at the most. After watching a lot of videos I went with 256 and 16mb RAM. RAM upgrade is never a bad idea. My 2015 IMac has 8mb

    • @garymofo2
      @garymofo2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nice 16mb

    • @Gorilla_warfare
      @Gorilla_warfare ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol I’m the same with dark keys on light Mac. Little things drive me crazy

  • @jansix4287
    @jansix4287 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, fingerprints, muffled sound and crippled SSD speed. Also no green and orange models. 👎

  • @cobra-wo3tg
    @cobra-wo3tg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is my first Mac laptop and I think it's great! I've had it for 2 days and it's remained cool to the touch doing regular tasks compared to my old Windows laptop which runs quite hot with the loud fan constantly running doing the same tasks. The Air is so much better. I got starlight and I haven't noticed any fingerprints at all thankfully.

    • @Elliot235
      @Elliot235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have you been running Microsoft word etc with it?

    • @cobra-wo3tg
      @cobra-wo3tg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Elliot235 I don't have MS Office installed - I usually use Google Docs for that type of work. Just basic web browsing or watching TH-cam videos for a while was enough to heat up the laptop and trigger the fan.

    • @jayjohn223
      @jayjohn223 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cobra-wo3tg the air doesn’t have a fan tho

    • @cobra-wo3tg
      @cobra-wo3tg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jayjohn223 I was referring to my old Windows laptop that I mentioned in my original comment.

    • @jayjohn223
      @jayjohn223 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cobra-wo3tg oh my bad

  • @rudyvillafane
    @rudyvillafane ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NOTE at ~ 11:17: Yes, it's true the MacBook Air does not support 2 external monitors natively. However, it is noteworthy to mention that the MacBook Air *can* support multiple external displays via DisplayLink adapters or docking stations. I personally am able to run 2 external displays at 2K. To keep things fair, there are a few drawbacks to DisplayLink--but, these have not been deal-breakers in my experience thus far.

  • @davs2628
    @davs2628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nice video! Midnight Mac is one of the best looking macs out there. I had ordered base M2 Air in Midnight and after seeing the review of chipping, i edited the order to Space Grey. Apple is taking a month to deliver the MBA :(

    • @redz2984
      @redz2984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It'll be worth it man trust me space gray is beautiful on this laptop

    • @davs2628
      @davs2628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@redz2984 Yea man! Waiting for it to be delivered. Will come in mid August

    • @AndrewEthanZeng
      @AndrewEthanZeng  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn't agree more!

  • @user-on6py8mj6v
    @user-on6py8mj6v 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone who uses air for programming? I am a cs student and I dont know if 16/512 air would be the good choice, would cooling be an issue when programming? I would really appreciate it if you can answer me

  • @omaryehia2
    @omaryehia2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Andrew, i just ordered the Macbook Oxygen M2 arriving tomorrow, i'm super excited as i'm coming from a crappy 300 usd leonovo ideapad model 2013

  • @sharonb.9128
    @sharonb.9128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. You breathe oxygen into the stale typical MacBook discussion.

  • @danielleamber7353
    @danielleamber7353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Macbook Oxygen Midnight looks so neat until it isn't. I still would have gotten it had I not just bought my Air M1 a few months back.

  • @a2301.
    @a2301. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    100 hours later : *shows 2 cycle count on **1:28*

  • @_FLUXCAPACITOR
    @_FLUXCAPACITOR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the Midnight but I ordered Space Grey... Midnight says, I own the cheapest Macbook

  • @tae_haz1301
    @tae_haz1301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great review jus got my m2 air about a week ago and I love it.

  • @queefbros11
    @queefbros11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What camera are you using to film?

  • @Shaggy12321
    @Shaggy12321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've never understood why people get 256GB computers? with the OS, web browsers, a few movies, documents, and screenshots and its already full. I got my 16" MBP with M1 Pro last year and even 512 wouldn't cut it for me so went 1TB

    • @notskromps8869
      @notskromps8869 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because 256GB is cheaper

    • @Shaggy12321
      @Shaggy12321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notskromps8869 doesn't matter how cheap it is if it's unusable

    • @notskromps8869
      @notskromps8869 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Shaggy12321 I wouldn’t say it’s unusable. Tbh just want it for editing and coding and my school work.

  • @MrLocsei
    @MrLocsei 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the Hamilton Pilot Pioneer Mechanical is my favourite watch :)

  • @adid.5585
    @adid.5585 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If I'd get this MacBook, I'd definitely get the Midnight color. This is something not seen before on a MacBook and it would definitely look awesome. I wonder if the M2 MacBook Pros will also be available in this color when they come out.

    • @Danielbignuts
      @Danielbignuts ปีที่แล้ว

      My only issue with the midnight and starlight are they are incredibly prone to scratches which may impact resale in a few years

    • @schlingelgen
      @schlingelgen ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Danielbignuts why is starlight prone to scratches? I only ever heard this about the midnight color which seemed plausible because its much darker than the underlying aluminum. Whith starlight I cant exactly image why its vulnerable to the same issue (?)

    • @Danielbignuts
      @Danielbignuts ปีที่แล้ว

      @@schlingelgen Because it is still a coating over the top of the frame, no where near as bad as midnight but still don't know how it will hold up long-term. At least with space grey the colour has been around for a while so we have been able to see the (minimal) scratching and wear over time

    • @schlingelgen
      @schlingelgen ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Danielbignuts When I went to take a first look at the starlight Macs, I thought they weren't set up yet because they are very similar to the silver Macs - I think it won't be visible if you dont take a detailed look

  • @Solstice42
    @Solstice42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Good review overall - glad to see you included other use cases - besides video creators - students, business travelers and writers ... where it seems like speed is not critical - but form-factor-size, weight and battery life is critical

  • @gmanhi5
    @gmanhi5 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can’t have an ODC with all those tabs open. 😅

  • @jugaldesai3251
    @jugaldesai3251 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everything depends on the requirement, I use a MacBook air M2 and I did not feel any heating issues till now. If your condition is to play games and edit high-end video you should choose many other options in the market so first understand your requirement for using the laptop.

    • @Aryonwilica218
      @Aryonwilica218 ปีที่แล้ว

      So if I’m just starting off learning video editing and audio engineering and just want to learn the basics should I get the 512GB SSD 8 core model and should I add the Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to the laptop or just pay for it later on ?

  • @Nogitsune_Yako
    @Nogitsune_Yako 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every human with a least 100 of IQ will definitely skip this crap. There’s 2 optimal options. 1st is get Air M1 and save money. 2nd is add some money and get 14” Pro which is almost twice as good as Air M2 but costs 20% more.

    • @kennordsfan1494
      @kennordsfan1494 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep 👍, to go to the 14 inch base pro was 400 dollars for me with AppleCare. Used the student pricing and got a 210 gift card. The only thing is battery life hit. I still get 12 hours of screen on time and easy can do a days work for my job on this labtop. I don’t do lots of video editing some picture editing just for work other than that it is such a beast.

    • @Nogitsune_Yako
      @Nogitsune_Yako 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kennordsfan1494 after my MSI gaming laptop with max screen time of 2 hours 12 seems to be excellent. My damn smartphone can’t handle even a half of that time.

  • @Anemone-aquaculture
    @Anemone-aquaculture ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d need some macbook oxygen after watching this video

  • @jowinkoh2350
    @jowinkoh2350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    M2 or M1 Pro for programmer / developer ?

  • @lucasalvarezlacasa2098
    @lucasalvarezlacasa2098 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why would you buy an 8gb RAM laptop in 2022?

  • @VincentRoper
    @VincentRoper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a mackbook pro m2 and its works well. Android studio works fast xcode etc. I have base modle.

  • @ralphgoldheim
    @ralphgoldheim 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow talk about a review like “kissing your sister”... Dude you completely missed the fact that more RAM like 16 or 24 Gb and a bigger drive blows out your performance worries. There are more than two types of users - you profile power users and students (basically) and left out business and creative musician users. Intensive Video user would give up everything for power. Students will buy the cheapest so the M1 air being discounted may make it their best choice. It's the overall BALANCE that is key. Business users going for best long term use will buy all the RAM they can get since you can’t upgrade it. They use MS Office all day everyday - think Excel and Powerpoint, not Final Cut rendering speed. Price, on the upgraded RAM and SSD drive units while important, is not the deal killer you guys make it out to be because it’s an investment - people keep Apple computers for a long time. I realize you have to have a catchy title on TH-cam like “is it ridiculously good or ridiculously bad?” but it’s neither. The mag charge port (not using a USB port) is an extremely important business and studio use feature (not on Pro) so some bone head doesn’t pull your computer off the desk tripping over the cable. For creative Musicians it’s great because it doesn’t have a fan and a lot of studios don’t like hearing loud fan noise in a mixing control room. I think your review would be much more useful to help people chose the best config and model for their own use, talking about and referencing software they actually use. All the reviewers need to chill being negative just dwelling on specs that may or may not be relevant to usage. Yes, I have a Air 24 Gb 1Tb drive and am EXTREMELY happy with it. P.S. I still use my Mid 2013 Air 8Gb with a 2TB internal and still kicks butt for regular business use.

  • @sotonin
    @sotonin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice fingerprints. lol.... such a terrible color

  • @RajaRamGurungRaza
    @RajaRamGurungRaza ปีที่แล้ว

    even mobile phone have 256gb storage, laptop shall have at least 1TB storages options with cheap price

  • @JEMODZ
    @JEMODZ ปีที่แล้ว

    I was going to buy the midnight, but when i went to buy it and saw it in the store it looked way to blue (i thought it would be more black), so i ended up just buying space grey

  • @d4nnyxb0i
    @d4nnyxb0i 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    that macbook oxygen mode really a life changer

  • @floatjockey
    @floatjockey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Much appreciate your video just now as I’m waiting a couple more days to make my mind up. Baseline model or upgraded RAM… anyhow it looks like a winner either way! MacBook Oxygen…