I grew up Catholic, tried reading the Bible but it was JUST a book... it had stories and that's it... often it was vague... and I was dependent on my priest to explain... but very few wisdom are every shared based on scripture... and homilies are often personal recounts or "whatever agenda" is being discussed... very few from the scriptures were delivered during countless of homilies at mass... My life wasn't changing, I led and bathed in sin... I cussed and saw the world in a very human - me centered state. Sure I would do acts of mercies but never were they really from my heart. Catholicism gave grace by pieces through me working out my salvation and trying to appease an angry "god". Yes, I knew John 3:16 but never did I know the gravity of what it meant to me... I prayed to the saints and had a talisman on me of a particular saint blessed in Rome... to protect me... I said that I wasn't worshiping them and these statues were just reminders... oddly I kiss them and touch them... put my trust on them to mediate my prayers to Jesus then to God. I never knew any Catholic, especially my priests, who lead me to Jesus himself... people lead me to Mary, to the saints... and pointing me to the church... the pope... but Jesus always felt far... Often than not... most of my friends are Catholic like I am... and we did things that will make going to mass is like being burned in hell... went to girly bars and cuss then on Sunday we will be at mass... maybe do confession but will go through the entire cycle again and again. No one really pointed me to Christ... it had a semblance of it... Jesus was a background figure like Luke Skywalker was in The Force Awaken and The Last Jedi. There was something always ahead of Jesus... God was vengeful... I guess that was why... vengefulness is a character of Catholicism... when they condemn anyone who disagrees. One day (I was 28, I am not 44), was invited to a Bible study... imagine a Catholic like me... doesn't want to go to Bible study... I felt dirty and will probably burn. Took weeks, months before I thought to have it a try... and it wasn't what I was expecting. Eventually, I encountered Jesus and I understood what being a sinner is all about... what sin really is... I never in my entire life have I been so honest to God that I was crying and admitted to needing a savior. I finally understood what John 3:16 really means... from that day on... my life changed. Now when I read the Bible... it is alive... it isn't just a book filled with stories... it is a guide to what matters and that is knowing and having a relationship with the one who should have center stage in my life and that is Jesus Christ. I tell this out of love... for Christian's... pray for your Roman Catholic friends. Just like me I was blind and continue to be blind until the day I was "born again" (surrendered my life to the Lordship of Christ). Christ should be the only center of our being... and not co-equal to any organized group as what the RCC is saying... because as much as any Catholic will deny this... the RCC is at equal importance to Jesus himself, that apart from it... even if you hold Jesus at the highest esteem... you are condemned and called a heretic. Why will a group of people condemn you, when Jesus himself said that He did not come into the world to condemn it? If Jesus said by the fruit (character) people will know who are truly His disciples... what fruit is being shown then?
I support you Norman Lee as I was also the lost sheep which was found.Indeed I received salvation after realizing my true image of only evil continually,as in Genesis 6:5.I am very happy because I don't give my devotions to statues which I was also worshipping and praying at to forgive me my Sins.I surrendered my life to Jesus and joined other saints in a true gospel spreading church.I aslo understood the meaning of John 3:16.
My wife was Catholic when I met her. I started reading Vatican 2 through with her comparing it to the bible. She wasn't Catholic by the end of it. I didn't even have to start Trent.
Sounds like she was a weak Catholic. My guess is that you imposed your Protestant interpretation as the only valid one. That interpretation does not exist in Heaven.
@@bridgefin Unfortunately for you she was raised Catholic and educated in a Catholic school. If then she was a weak Catholic (informationally) then it would be the fault of the Catholic church in question. I has also deconstructed my raised church tradition (Evangelical assemblies of God). All the way to atheist and back to Christianity on very basic points Christ and him crucified etc. I did with her what I did for myself. I Took the statement of faith from the denomination and compared it to the bible. Reading commentaries on interpretations pro and con. All the while trying to keep cultural context in mind. I am happy to admit when Luther was wrong, or right the same as any Pope, Pastor, Minister, and Priest. You then categorize points of doctrine into 3 sections: Biblical, Extra Biblical, and Un-Biblical. You then ignore the first two and focus on the last. You then focus on educating your self enough to change "appears contradictory", to "actually contradicts". Like Calvinism's double predestination. I would be careful before accepting any "interpretation's" from heaven as well, unless it came from God (any of the three parts will do).
@@malvokaquila6768 You: then it would be the fault of the Catholic church in question. Me: They were both at fault. You: I am happy to admit when Luther was wrong, or right Me: I'm sure our lists would be vastly different. You: I Took the statement of faith from the denomination and compared it to the bible....You then categorize points of doctrine into 3 sections: Biblical, Extra Biblical, and Un-Biblical. You then ignore the first two and focus on the last. You then focus on educating your self enough to change "appears contradictory", to "actually contradicts". Like Calvinism's double predestination. Me: Ah, so you chose the bible to be the decision criteria. Does the bible ever claim to be such or does the bible say that the church is the pillar and foundation of truth? You just used the wrong criteria. Let me suggest to you how a follower of Christ should do that. First you find out if Jesus ever thought to establish a church. If he did then you ask if he gave that church any protection. Well, he did say that the gates of Hell would never prevail against it. Did he ever promise that it would get doctrines right? He did promise that the spirit of truth would be with its leaders forever. Then the final question is real easy.....How in the world could I pick some other church and still say that I want to be saved?
@@bridgefin "They were both at fault." Interesting She was educated in the faith and in the school and its the students fault? "you chose the bible to be the decision criteria" So do you if you actually care about the claims laid out in the text. The Bible does have them you know. It would be like forming a company with bylaws then violating them. If church doctrine contradicts the text then either they were Extremely stupid in adding them or they just wanted power beyond that of their founding charter. Jesus ascended into heaven prior to the founding of the church in Israel and Christianity spread out from there. Conflating church with "Roman Catholic" is Pure equivocation. Mathew 16:18 I will build my church (Ekklesia) Greek word defined as “a called-out assembly or congregation.” commonly translated as “church”. Who is building the church? Answer Jesus. Who is the head of the church? Answer Jesus.
I'm glad for you. I was raised by YECs, so I know how frustrating it can be having loved ones with bad methodology. I wish I could manage to be a persuasive as you were, but at least they have good doctrine on salvation. I hope your marriage is great and your children come to know God as you have. :)
@@johnyang1420 Here is the Proof, sacraments are man made rituals,praying to Mary and the saints is no where to be found in the bible, the Monstrance is the exact same symbol of Dagons sunburst,The popes garb is the same Garb that Dagon wore, the church doctrine and rules are always changing(The Bible never changes ) ...and the topper is the Pope saying that Muslims and Buddhists can also go to heaven...
Religious people will destroy a person to keep a tradition......Jesus will break a tradition to help a person.....out with the dead religion and dead sedition that keeps people from having a personal relationship with Christ Jesus.
@@cfG21 Not really, it was a recovery of the old truths that had been replaced by traditions. Not a complete recovery though, which is why reformations kept happening and creating new denominations. Someone found a forgotten truth in the Bible, the old guard didn't like being told what was true, and bam, division. But thanks to the diligent work of Biblical scholars, we have most of the truth, and it's up to us to pray and read in our search for the truth.
@@JPLMONEY23 Yes, this is what Jesus decreed. And Paul confirms this in 1 Cor. 11:25 -"This cup is the new Covenant in My Blood." As drinking blood was forbidden in OT ( Leviticus 7:27 ) many of Jesus' disciples broke away from Him (John 6:66) as they couldn't stomach this teaching which they claimed was " too hard to bear." Catholics call the partaking of Jesus' Flesh & Blood as Holy Communion/Eucharist. Check the Internet for Eucharistic Miracles, esp. Eucharistic Miracle of Buenos Aires. God bless
Ok, then give me a verse that support faith alone and where it says in the Bible that only the Bible has authority. You can't. And James 2:14 disagrees with you. Why do Catholics need to give verses for their beliefs when u can literallyread the catechism while every protestant has different beliefs for everything and they don't even care to see that the Bible doesn't support protestantism.
*R Catholicism has nothing to do with God and His Words. R Catholic Church contradicts Scriptures in every possible ways!* 1. Catholics say Mary was sinless. But BIBLE says Mary offered a sinner's offering. She was a sinner. Bible says Mary needed a Saviour. Lk 2:23-24, Lev 12:6-8, Rom 3:10. 2. Catholics say clergies must be celibate. Yet BIBLE says Peter (supposed R Church first leader) had mother in law. Bible says celibacy is not a qualification for clergies. Mat 8:14-15, Mar 1:30-31, Luk 4:38-39. 3. Catholics say Mary was forever virgin. Yet BIBLE says Jesus had brothers and sisters. Mary was not perpetually virgin. Mk 6:3, Mat 13:55, Mat 27:56, Mar 6:3, Mar 15:40, Mar 15:47. 4. Catholics say confess to R priests in a box. BIBLE says nothing about confessing to priests in a box. Bible says confess to GOD only. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6, Romans 10:9-10. 5. Catholics say drink of the literal blood of Jesus. Yet OT and NT both say do not drink blood. Acts 15, Lev 7:26. 6. Catholics say pray to passed on Mary and "saints". Yet BIBLE says do not contact the dead. NT Church did not record a single case of NT believers asking passed on saints to pray for them. Deut 18:11, Isaiah 8:19. 7. Catholics make and bow down to statues. BIBLE says do not bow down to graven images (statues). Deut 4, Exo 20:4-5. 8. Catholics sprinkles “holy water”. But NT Church of the Bible mentioned nothing about “holy water”. There was no record of any Apostles sprinkling “holy water” on believers. Catholics claimed “holy water” came from OT. Yet Num 5:17 says “holy water” was water used to test adulterous women in OT temple. Hardly the same. Those were for Old Covenant Jews. Not New Testament Christians. 9. Catholics say Peter was pope - bishop of all bishops. Yet BIBLE says Peter was just a leader of the Jerusalem Church. Bible says nothing of the office of bishop of bishops. Gal 2:9, Mat 16:18. 10. Catholics say there is a seat of Peter. Yet BIBLE says nothing about it. Jesus said “not to lord over others”. 11. Catholics has clergy priesthood. Bible says clergy priesthood was done away with in New Testament. There is no clergy priesthood in NT. Heb 7:27, 9:12, 10:10. 12. Catholics preaches Works Salvation (faith + good works + partake R sacraments + submit to R pontiff + be in R Church + devote to Mary = to be saved). Yet Bible says “believe in Jesus to be saved”. Bible says Works Salvation is cursed. Gal 1:8-9. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16, Romans 10:9-10. 13. Catholics says they must do Penance to atone for their sins. Yet Bible says repent, confess and sins will be forgiven. Catholic Bible changes the word “repentance” in NT into “penance”. Original Greek NT does not use or mean the word penance. Penance = work to atone for sins. Repentance = change of heart. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6. 14. Catholics say Mary went straight to heaven without dying. Yet Bible says nothing about it. 15. Catholics say Islam and Christianity have the same GOD. Yet Islam doesn't believe in death and resurrection of Jesus and Trinity.
Why this preacher teaching always by his own private interpretation always out of the blue so misleading and hated catholic somuch lthink he want to establish anew sect .
About church father ,thatmeans he become a father of faith of the church,just like Abraham he become our father in the faith you mean after all he never become our father?you just introduced your self as if you know everything but a master of none .demon do nothing but destroy the church making confussion plating fire.
Speaking of authority itwas given to the churh he founded to an appointed ldrs. The key which represent authority to lead.mt.16:18,18:18,28:19-20,Jn.20:21-22,Jn.21:15-19.and you said it is not? Wow!!.
How can you say ‘’tragic figure of Christ on the cross” when it’s the SALVIFIC WORK OF CHRIST, to which St Paul retorts us to REMEMBER!! Jesus indeed conquered death. A Catholic crucifix is not a mockery of Christ’s work, it’s a loving reminder of how much Jesus LOVES YOU. How is that ‘’tragic’’, or something to be ashamed of?
@@marioeresma9556 Researching Vatican 1 and 2, and Trent, and Catholic doctrine isn't private interpretation and certainly not "out of the blue." Prayers for you sir and the Peace of Jesus who is the eternal head of His church.
If your works are not good you do not truly believe. Faith lies in action which determines salvation. “He [St. Paul] shows in the clearest manner through what things it is that man goes to destruction, if he has continued to live after the flesh…” - St. Irenaeus
@@Michael-nb4ng just so we’re 100% clear, I’m not denying Christ left us a church. Never even hinted at that. I’m denying Roman Catholic claim to authority.
@@dtshotme........Sounds exactly like the Protestant movement = 100, 000 Holy Spirits creating 100,000 denominations and non-denominations. A free-for-all.
The U.S. ambassador to Great Britain is the one mediator between the American and British governments. That doesn't mean you can't ask an assistant ambassador or embassy clerk to help you with a problem.
@@georgepenton808 who is Jesus assistant mediator lolololololololol, give me the chapter and verse. I guess you do not believe what God said in his word, the verse says "ONE MEDIATOR" IT DOESNT SAY CO- MEDIATORS. YOU ARE REJECTING THE WORD OF GOD FOR THE TRADITION OF MAN
"We need clear teaching, not vague implications... Especially when someone is claiming to have authority over the entire world". (5:50) I'm gonna have use that as a quote someday!
That's rather funny, looking at the fact that guy is coming up with his own interpretation of scripture many times in the video and no one knows where that intepretation came from. "You would never read the Bible and come up with...." We are talking about Bible, that was wrote, gathered and protected by Catholic Church for centuries. If someone has a quote from it, only the Church can say what was the meaning. Coming up with own interpretation is a first step to atheism, because interpretations done without any method and view on the whole theology will end up as a bunch of contradictions.
@@neosmoker "Only the church can say what was the meaning" - you do realize that the church is interpreting the Scriptures themselves? And then you are interpreting what the church is telling you. Whenever someone says something to you you have to interpret it. Interpretation is not an argument for Catholicism, rather against it.
@@friedrichrubinstein It's pretty much normal that any teological content written hundred of years ago needs interpretation. Also people who write it had something in mind - so there is always layer of interpretation just to understand the original authors. Besides... even in regular talks people misunderstand each other from time to time, because interpretation of words also takes place. If someone claims that he/she reads the Biblie without interpretation - there is a lie, ignorance or unconciousness involved. Catholic Church is the owner. If you want to know what is given part about - ask them.
I was born and raised in a Catholic family. My mom is a devout Catholic, serving the church, doing rosary with those images made of wood or stones. She's also doing procession of the images of Mary, bowing down and touching the image with handkerchief. I grew with all these things that my mom is doing which doesn't really bothers me because I am not a religious person. I would say my faith with the God that we believed in is somewhat 10%. I didn't even know the concept of "God" came from, didn't even know the Bible. But after 43 years of my life, God made me realised that He's doing miracles in my life even without knowing Him well. He always provided an exit to my adulterous situation. (cried too much 😭😭😭) So I started going to the church which is the Catholic church. With a few weeks going every Sunday, I've felt something wrong seeing people kneeling down in front of the image of Mary (a grotto outside of the church). Then I started reading and studying the Bible, of course with the guide of the Holy Spirit. God is gracious with wisdom when you asked of it and everything it make sense to me. God is truly faithful with His promises, He gave me a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 36:26) I am born again in spirit ( John 3:3, 1 Peter 1:23, 2 Corinthians 5:17, John 3:6) He made me realised that from Heaven, He came down on earth to save us, and that is our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (John 14:6, Luke 2:11, 1 Timothy 1:15, Titus 2:13) From 10% to a million percent faith.😊😊😊 Matthew 6:33 Seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness and all this things will be given to you as well
@Charity 2019 thank you sister for the advice, I am currently building my relationship with God through prayers and studying the Bible. What Mr. Mike is saying are all true, all these doctrines of the RCC are not biblical, specially about the salvation, which doesn't aligned with the teaching of the Bible. I believed in the Bible because I know this are the true Words of God. There are lots of deceiver in this world sister, I advice you to study the faith you have now, one advice which the Bible teaches is to look for the fruit of the religious leader. Look how horrible the popes in the history of the Catholic church, you can look up for yourself the history of those popes. God bless you sister, may the grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus bless you with spiritual awakening just like He did to me. Shalom 🙏🙏🙏♥️♥️♥️
@simplelifewithgod3227 Investigate the Bible for yourself through a correct Protestant church because they have bewildering and contradictory interpretations of the Bible. You will need to figure out what is a correct Protestant church. You will soon discover this if you are a serious student of the Bible and serious about your faith. Some that go by the name "full Gospel" might be good. But you might end up investigating numerous churches before you find one you can agree with. The moderator of this Y.T. channel also hates many Protestant denominations. It is a game some Protestants play with each other. So you are advised to search for a more reliable and educated source of info than random Y.T. channels. Reading the Bible on your own can only take you a short distance in understanding. It is advisable to find a loving local church community to support you. May I suggest you be humble in your private search and do not make public assumptions or judgements about the Spirituality of any other person. You know nothing about me or the faith I have now. I am simply trying to point out some facts for your consideration.
Amen. We are to worship no one other than God. Jesus said that no one comes to the Father but through him. (John 14:6) Mary is not the one who is the bridge that can lead us to the Father. Only Jesus can, cause he is the Son of God, and he is God in the flesh.
Praise the Lord!!! I FEEL your joy and love! I was in the same situation, born and raised Catholic, with my dad being heavily involved in the Catholic Church. NEVER had a relationship with Jesus… not till a few months ago when I dropped to my knees and prayed for understanding, the Holy Spirit ENGULFED me with pure love, and I sobbed and sobbed… overwhelmed with emotion. Now, I cannot get enough of the Lord’s love! Reading the Bible every day and looking for a church that follows Jesus and scripture. ❤
Every Catholic friend I have and have had were very loving conscientious people, given to good works and loving their neighbor. They believed in the Heavenly Father as Creator and acknowledged their sin and the existence of Hell for those who will not be forgiven. They work harder than Mormons and many Christians to serve in their community and all admit, they are only hopeful that they have done enough to be saved. The gospel of Christ frees us from such bondage. Speak the truth in love. Serve out of gratitude for salvation, not to earn it- because we can't.
@@johnyang1420 You're wasting Your time, these are Protestants, They have no loyalty to a Church, They're Mercenary Christians, They'll just show up anywhere there's a Cross on the Door and start praying. As long as it's in the Bible, They could care less about the Heresy that They engage in.
I appreciate this teaching. I'm Baptist, and have a friend who is Roman Catholic. She works for the Arch Diocese. So, I appreciate this insight to the Catholic Church. She has often said that we Christians don't agree on everything, but I contend that I f we say we are Christians, we absolutely have to agree on the very basic principles of the faith.
@@veritasmuy2407 Christians ultimately conquered Rome. They were persecuted in Rome until Constantine legalized Christianity upon his conversion around 315 AD and built the Vatican for the bishop on Nero’s circus where Peter was executed
@@veritasmuy2407 there’s records from of the bishop of Rome’s succession from Peter to the 4th century. There was no Greece. That region was also part of the Roman Empire. Look at a 1st century Roman Empire map. The area where Greece is today were all pagan. You never heard of the Greek Pagan Gods before? There’s a lot of famous books and archeological sites in Greece today from Pagan worship… The miracle of Fatima is great proof God exists. So many eye witnesses. You can see the photos people watching the sun
@@veritasmuy2407 Purgatory is the Latin word for purification. If you look it up, before Jesus the Jews believed in purification after death. So it’s a continuation of beliefs. If you look up if Jews believe in purification after death today, they still believe in purification after death.
Catholics claim that he lived like a celibate after he began following Jesus, even though he was still married. Without a shred of evidence, of course.
1. Corinthians 9:5 NIV Don’t we have the right to take a believing wife along with us, as do the other apostles and the Lord’s brothers and Cephas? Seems to me is was rather common for the apostles to have wives 💁♂️
It doesn’t say anywhere in the Bible that the Bible is enough, which makes sense as many were unable to read back then and needed to be taught by an authority. However, it does say, “what you have heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also.” In “Timothy 3:16-17” it says scripture is profitable (ōphelimos) moving one toward a goal. Many mistake this to mean “sufficient” which it does not.
My Catholic friends said that they believe that just by being part of catholic church and following teaching of the Pope they will get to heaven. It's so sad because I have many catholic friends who are good people but it makes me sad to see just how deceived they are. But I just keep Praying for them
Salvation us only through Catholic church, but not everyone Catholic will go to heaven. Being Protestant makes it harder to be saved. There is no salvation outside the Catholic church.
@Bosko, Jesus said to the thief on the cross beside him that for his faith he will now be in heaven with him. Faith in God is what you need to get to heaven, Jesus forgives for our sins, now God has is own ways for he says “my ways are not you way and my thoughts are not your thoughts” so god will judge us individually on the other side.
@@ssv7195 That was due to the fact that He was actually on the Cross next to Christ. The rest of Us go through His Church, as We lack the direct conduit that the Thief had.
Then there were the sheep in Matt. 25: 31-40, who worked their way into heaven; and they didn't even know Jesus, " When did we feed, clothe, house and comfort you," they ask.
@@AnnTeixeira-v3lMy friend the good things we do like feeding the poor,( won't) remove the fact we guilty sinners that lie,steal, and think dirty thoughts worthy of hell who offended God ,just like in court if we guilty of murder no good deed changes that)** **Romans 5 vs1 says by faith alone we are( justified ) meaning to be legally declared like in court by God not guilty, innocent, and totally pure,and have peace with God through Jesus Christ our Lord, **Because of the blood Jesus the Risen Savior already shead at Calvarys cross 2000 yrs ago (alone) , which( alone) open the door to salvation, forgiveness of sin and dilverance over sin which comes freely by faith) *Believing( isn't) just agreeing with the head,but it's continually freely accepting by faith alone from deep within,what Jesus already did at Calvarys cross ) ******The same way we get saved,it's the same way we stay saved ,are forgiven, stay pure in God's sight,get daily inner change by the Holy spirit and enter heaven instead of hell, by continually believing and freely accepting by faith from deep within what Jesus the Risen Savior already did at Calvarys cross) *While we all stumble ,we cant have a true encounter with jesus and remain the same , because once we place our faith in what He already did at Calvarys cross, the Holy spirit begins to change our evil heart and desires ) Romans 5 vs8 God comendeth his love towards us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us) Salvation is simple Romans 10 vs13 Says whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved) **All it takes to be saved is calling on God from the heart as He deal with us through faith in what Jesus already did at Calvarys cross long ago in repentance ,**admitting our sinfulness to God ,asking him to save us and wash our sins away by the blood Jesus already shead at Calvarys cross 2000 years ago, **freely accepting by faith Jesus and what he did, telling God we believe and accept Jesus His risen Son as Savior and Lord) **Two things about God we must leave our darkness our sinful way and come to light , understanding God has nothing for sale , **Everything from God from A thru z comes only by faith for free through Jesus and Calvary,rather its salvation ,forgiveness ,purity in Gods sight, inner change by the Holy spirit,healing etc,this is because it was at the cross 2000 years ago alone jesus by his precious blood completely paid our sin debt and destroyed sins power over us)
@@AnnTeixeira-v3l These people are not saved because of their actions. Their actions demonstrated the fact that they are saved. Their fruit was an outward expression of their converted hearts. This is the teaching of the entire bible and it's consistent. You need to use the Bible to interpret the bible. You cannot impose on it your own understanding. The Bible is very clear that no one can "work their way into heaven." No one can fulfil the entire law. No one can pay for their sin. Salvation is a free gift from God made possible by Jesus' death and resurrection and given to us through faith. Good works follow faith and conversion.
@@AnnTeixeira-v3l Please go read it again. The book of James says if you have no deeds, it's proof you have no faith to begin with. It doesn't say that deeds get you into heaven. It emphasizes the point that deeds flow out of faith first. Both go hand in hand.
*NT Church of the BIBLE did not have Roman pontiff neither Roman priests, neither did Apostles pray to passed on saints or Mary, neither did Apostles and Jesus make statues for Mary and saint .. Neither bow down to statues .. Neither ROman unholy water, neither sinless Mary, neither veneration of skulls bones tongues ... So where are all these man made doctrines of ROME in the BIBLE? Neither all the below man made doctrines! Wonder where they come from? Satan?*
Why would there be letters written to everyday people addressing them and telling them about sound doctrine and the nature of salvation only to be told that we can't really interpret it and make any evaluations on what's being said? The core method of how much of the NT is written was in letter form and read aloud for everyone to hear.
I don't know what to do anymore. They're good arguments on both sides protestant and catholic. I want to please God but all of these arguments are just making me more confused. I don't want to go to hell for the reason of me not conforming to the catholic church or something. Help me please
Take a look at those that went to heaven and hell in Matt. 25: 31-46. This is what the Catholic Church teaches; for it is feeding/clothing/housing/comforting the least of these that YOU encounter Christ. Blessings !!!
I’m right there with you. I’m so confused and it sometimes feels hopeless. However just keep praying God will make it clear to us and I’m sure he will answer. His timing is perfect I hear.
Read your Bible. Study and see if what you here from everyone is in the Bible. Just like the Bereans as Paul mentioned in the Bible, btw complimenting them for checking his preaching
Paul said- study to show thyself approved unto God a workman that needed not to be ashamed, ritely dividing the word of trueth.just read the new testament. Read a catholic bible and will see where they deviate, and pray to the father in jesus's name no other asking for him to open your eye. He loves people to search the scriptures.
I agree this is a real problem in the church but reading that verse it seems like Jesus was calling out the Nicolaitans for following in the footsteps of Balaam (the etymology is uncertain but both names could have similar meanings. Nicolaus: victory over (or of) the people / Balaam: swallowing up the people) by promoting eating food sacrificed to idols and committing sexual immorality. Or perhaps that similar actions were morally permissible since they were no longer under the Mosaic Law. Am I missing something?
@@ryanburr8419 Balaam taught Balac to put a stumbling block before the children of Israel. It is impossible but that offences will come, but woe unto him through whom they come. The deeds of the Nicolaitans became doctrine. They start by taking away the priesthood of all the saints. Then, they take away direct communication with the Head of the Body, Christ, and interject "intercessors" between Him and the Body. Then they take away the Father and replace Him with men, and finally, they take away the diety of Christ and the Father and substitute their "holy" father,. for the true and only HOLY FATHER, God. Wickedness!
@Michael *How do you explain Two third of New Testament that says Salvation is Not By Works"?* Luke 23:43 - the thief at the Cross believed in Jesus and he was in Paradise thereafter. NOT WORKS! John 1:29 - Christ the Lamb of GOD who takes away the sins of the world ... (NOT OUR WORKS) John 3:16 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Acts 16:30-31 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Rom 4. Vs 1-2 - justified NOT BY WORKS! Vs 3 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 4 - WORKS are debts . Vs 5 - he who DOES NOT WORK is JUSTIFIED . Vs 5 - God justifies the ungodly, Vs 5 - FAITH was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 6 - Blessedness Apart from WORKS! Imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS by FAITH. Vs 8 - imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS apart from WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham was made RIGHTEOUS BY FAITH BEFORE ANY WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham received seal of RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH by imputation. NOT WORKS! Vs 11 - Promise to Abraham was through RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH. Vs 14-15 - Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation. Vs 22 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS . Vs 22 - RIGHTEOUSNESS imputed on those who believed. Not those who WORKS! Rom 11:6 - IF IT IS WORKS, IT’S NO LONGER GRACE . 2 Cor 5:21 - GOD made Jesus who knew no sin to become sin for us, that we might become the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD. Gal 2:16 - not justified by WORKS OF THE LAW, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS. BY WORKS OF THE LAW, NO MAN IS JUSTIFIED! Gal 2:21 - if RIGHTEOUSNESS comes through the law, then Christ died in vain. Gal 3:1-5 - Paul said Christians who started by faith, why end up following WORKS of law (not only Mosaic laws)? Are you made perfect by flesh (WORKS)? Gal 3:1-5 - Did God do miracles by your faith believing or by your WORKS of law? Eph 2:8-9 - saved by grace through faith NOT BY WORKS. Eph 2: 8-9 - salvation is a GIFT. NOT WORKS! 2 Tim 1:9 - saved NOT according to our WORKS. Titus 3:5 - saved NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. 1 Pet 2:24 - Christ (the Lamb of GOD) bore our sins … (NOT OUR WORKS).
I am sure that when God inspired all the authors of the books of the Bible to give us an instruction manual for our faith and daily living, that He also made sure that these books would be the chosen ones, and absolutely for us to abide by. What the Bible says counts. Not popes, or church «fathers» or anybody else. Only by studying the Bible are we able to keep on the right track.
Then how do Protestants, Catholics and Orthodox all have different books in their Bibles? Which Bible are we to study? The first Protestant Bible did not exist for more than 1000 years.
@@daddydaycareky 1000 years for the 1st Protestant Bible? Since the Reformation began in 1517 I guess we can look forward to the Protestant Bible in about 2517. There were German, English and French Protestant translations of the Bible as early as 1521 and 1522.
@@miketeixeira7853 God calling Abram Abraham, and Jacob Israel, and Jesus calling Simon Peter haven't the slightest thing to do with calling ANYONE Pope. Please don't make up Scripture sir. I pray you will refrain from this practice as we are commanded not to add to or take away from God's Holy Scriptures.
@@michaelbee2165......Isn't Abram/Abraham the father of the many nations ??? Isn't Jacob/Israel the father of the Israelis ??? Similarly, Jesus chose a father/papa/Pope for His Church/His new peoples/Christians.
Walter Romanoff prayer has 4 different levels in Catholic Church. 1. Adoration • to God only 2. Contrition • sorry for my sins 3 Thanksgiving • for salvation 4. Supplication • help
Him Bike That all sounds great Jesus never taught that It’s not in the Bible That dosnt bother you because you have been indoctrinated by the Catholic Church Jesus was a Jew He fulfilled prophecy He was killed and his followers were Christians The Catholic Church was formed hundreds of years later The Catholic Church teaches Mother goddess worshiping of Mary Catholic Church teaches you should follow the pope and the Vatican The Catholic Church teaches prayer to Mary Fatima Guadeloupe Saints icons statues Purgatory confession holy water nuns celibate priests virginity is holy Jesus taught non of these things The Bible teaches non of these things You don’t know the Bible You have been deceived You are blind and can’t see spiritually You have been deceived by Satan You must search for the truth You must pray for understanding You must accept Jesus as your lord and savior Try other churches Listen to Billy Gram Then listen to your Holy Father the Pope Who will you follow Look up Spanish Inquisition Look up selling of Indulgences Why can’t priests and nuns marry and have families Catholic Church rules Nothing to do with Jesus Jesus died for your sins He said you must be born again to go to heaven A spiritual transformation to understanding a spiritual god Good luck
Walter Romanoff Jesus was a priest. Jesus was celibate. Paul was a priest. Paul was celibate. Lucky for we Catholics, your opinion is less than worthless.
Drifted away from Catholicism around 2017. Wish I'd had this video then. He's right in saying a lot of Catholics don't know Catholic theology. I didn't, even with 6 years of Catholic education under my belt. Now, Catholicism gave me a great foundation of faith. I was proud to be Catholic. I knew who Jesus was, I loved, trusted, and believed in the Lord. I'd been baptized, but I didn't quite know how to follow Him, and heaven felt like an impossible thing to achieve. Looking back, it was. I'm still learning how to follow, but how incredible it is to know just the true gravity of the freedom that's been given to us through Christ. Romans 5:1-5 was, and is, a revelation for me. Praise the Lord for the journey.
Gotta remember christ and anti christ teachings started in Rome. They fooled the world saying "Rome turned to christ." They did it in their own image fooling themselves into thinking it was in the image of Jesus. Jesus was in the temple alot but he was active as well he taught us that we are the 7th temple the heart is the temple of the holy spirit and through christ we receive the holy spirit. However not a justification just an understanding, they can be seen as an example of how not to practice worship. The Bible is the word of God the holy spirit is the spirit of God and our bodies are the temple of God. Pretty straightforward.
No catholic actually knows or has a relationship with the Biblical Jesus Christ, it's that simple. They are accursed and have greater damnation in hell for using Jesus's name and deceiving souls.
@@margaretlobo9466 You're a liar and of you're father the Devil and Satan. "John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life." Recieving Jesus Christ is by FAITH ALONE in full trust in his death burrial and resurrection. Catholics doctrine of demons teaches we recieve Christ by consuming him like the spiritual zombies you non believers or "Catholics" whichhave an antichrist Spirit& holier-than-thou attitude of religious works, that will never save you or keep you saved. Repent and believe the Gospel.
@@NJB423 YOU = You're a liar and of you're father the Devil and Satan. ME = After Jesus' 40 days/nights of fasting - Matthew 4 - Satan mocked Jesus = If you are the Son of God, you should not trouble yourself when you can so easily have all the bread you want, take part in injury-free risks, and have all the power and wealth/prosperity of this world. Jesus then rebuked Satan who fled away. For Jesus, the Christian life is one of the Cross - If you wish to be My disciple, deny yourself, carry your Cross daily and follow Me. Even Paul, true disciple of Christ, boasted of the Cross - Galatians 6:14. Paul also told of his various sufferings, hardships, imprisonment, etc. -2 Corinthians 11:23-29. Catholics follow Christ in their belief doctrines. Protestants have listened to Satan and the - easy - life. They have even adopted the Prosperity doctrine. Sadly, they have cancelled the Cross, and universally talk about being Raptured and being - Absent in the flesh, present with the Lord -despite their unconfessed sins and non-reconciliation with those trespassed against.
@AndrewLane-pm2ro *RCs are the result of not reading the Bible. Two third of New Testament says Salvation is Not By Works (Faith Alone Doctrine). RCs say no. Clearly Roman religion is man made.* Luke 23:43 - the thief at the Cross believed in Jesus and he was in Paradise thereafter. NOT WORKS! John 1:29 - Christ the Lamb of GOD who takes away the sins of the world ... (NOT OUR WORKS) John 3:16 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Acts 16:30-31 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Rom 4. Vs 1-2 - justified NOT BY WORKS! Vs 3 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 4 - WORKS are debts . Vs 5 - he who DOES NOT WORK is JUSTIFIED . Vs 5 - God justifies the ungodly, Vs 5 - FAITH was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 6 - Blessedness Apart from WORKS! Imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS by FAITH. Vs 8 - imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS apart from WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham was made RIGHTEOUS BY FAITH BEFORE ANY WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham received seal of RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH by imputation. NOT WORKS! Vs 11 - Promise to Abraham was through RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH. Vs 14-15 - Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation. Vs 22 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS . Vs 22 - RIGHTEOUSNESS imputed on those who believed. Not those who WORKS! Rom 11:6 - IF IT IS WORKS, IT’S NO LONGER GRACE . 2 Cor 5:21 - GOD made Jesus who knew no sin to become sin for us, that we might become the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD. Gal 2:16 - not justified by WORKS OF THE LAW, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS. BY WORKS OF THE LAW, NO MAN IS JUSTIFIED! Gal 2:21 - if RIGHTEOUSNESS comes through the law, then Christ died in vain. Gal 3:1-5 - Paul said Christians who started by faith, why end up following WORKS of law (not only Mosaic laws)? Are you made perfect by flesh (WORKS)? Gal 3:1-5 - Did God do miracles by your faith believing or by your WORKS of law? Eph 2:8-9 - saved by grace through faith NOT BY WORKS. Eph 2: 8-9 - salvation is a GIFT. NOT WORKS! 2 Tim 1:9 - saved NOT according to our WORKS. Titus 3:5 - saved NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. 1 Pet 2:24 - Christ (the Lamb of GOD) bore our sins … (NOT OUR WORKS). you said I went from agnosticism to Protestantism but soon became disillusioned with it. It teaches false doctrines (eg, salvation thru faith alone) and amounts to fake Christianity.
@@AnnTeixeira-v3l *NT was the transition of Old Covenant to New Covenant. The New Testament only took effect at the death of the Testator - Jesus Christ. That's Restitution of Old Testament. Not Roman pagan Penance. Stop propagating man made doctrine of ROman pagan religion.*
No Mr Winger here are the Bible verses that prove Christ giving Peter authority. Matthew 16:18 Jesus then continues: And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. The word "Peter" in this verse is, in Greek, "petros", while this "rock" is "petra". It is a play on words, but if the original language was Aramaic the word in both cases is simply "kepha". A distinction that petros meant a stone and petra a solid piece of rocky ground is sometimes suggested, but Greek use in antiquity seems to have been less precise.[15] The word "church" (ekklesia in Greek), as used here, appears in the Gospels only once more, in Matthew 18:17, and refers to the community of believers at the time.[3] The "gates of hell" (of Hades) refers to the underworld, and the abode of the dead, and refers to the powers opposed to God not being able to triumph over the church.[16] The keys of the kingdom of heaven refer to the metaphor of the Kingdom of Heaven being a "place to be entered" as also used in Matthew 23:13, where the entrance to it can be shut.[16] Peter's authority is further confirmed by: "Whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." As discussed below, various Christian denominations have assigned different interpretations to the authority granted in this passage. All three of the Synoptic Gospels end the account with Jesus telling the disciples not to reveal that he was the Messiah to anyone. Also it makes so much sense that Christ would leave somebody in charge to interpret the written word that was to come inspired by the holy Spirit. You obtain the Bible through the Catholic Church.if you get 10 people in a room you may get 5-6 or even ten different interpretations of a particular scripture. So it makes perfect sense that Christ would somebody in charge. Everything in Catholicism and I mean everything in the Catholicism is biblical or handed down by tradition. I pray that all Protestants listening to this video well research the early church fathers. If you do it with an open mind you will see the truth and convert to the one true church founded by God.
You really should read more of the bible than just the parts you think back up your deceit. Ps 18 For who is God save Yahovah? Or who is a Rock save our God? Peter is not the foundation stone of the Body of Christ, Christ is. He is the rock that followed them in the wilderness. Peter himself rejected that interpretation. Just as Balaam taught Balac to put a stumbling block before the children of Israel, the Catholic church has put many stumbling blocks before those who would follow Christ. Fortunately, we dont have to depend on the leadership of your "church" to understand the scripture anymore.
I'm going to re-read the books of Peter today, but you can save me some time in letting me know where Peter says all authority is in him and he is the high priest.
@@AnnTeixeira-v3l Purgatory The concept of Purgatory does exist in Scripture which is very clear when it says, “But nothing unclean shall enter [heaven]” (Rev. 21:27). Hab. 1:13 says, “You [God]… are of purer eyes than to behold evil and cannot look on wrong…” How many of us will be perfectly sanctified at the time of our deaths? I dare say most of us will be in need of further purification in order to enter the gates of heaven after we die, if, please God, we die in a state of grace. Purgatory can be supported by II Maccabees 12:39-46, we discover Judas Maccabeus and members of his Jewish military forces collecting the bodies of some fallen comrades who had been killed in battle. When they discovered these men were carrying “sacred tokens of the idols of Jamnia, which the law forbids the Jews to wear” (vs. 40), Judas and his companions discerned they had died as a punishment for sin. Therefore, Judas and his men “turned to prayer beseeching that the sin which had been committed might be wholly blotted out… He also took up a collection… and sent it to Jerusalem to provide for a sin offering. In doing this he acted very well and honorably… Therefore he made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin.” This may be why Luther removed Macabees from his bible & was tempted to do the same with the book of James Luke 12 35-48 servants rewarded/punished in varying ways 1 Jn 5 16-18 refers to deadly & non deadly sin ie mortal & venial. For some Protestants to say that all sin is sin and to not differentiate between mortal sin like adultery and venial sin like stealing a dollar is illogical & a poor understanding Confession is in the bible Jn 20:23
@@AnnTeixeira-v3l If Jesus has power/victory over death, why would there be anybody inpurgatory in the first place? We're either saved because we accept Christ or damned if we don't.
Purgatory was a Jewish belief about the afterlife. It was a belief that excluded Christ and assumed that because they lived in Jerusalem that paradise was guaranteed, after paying for their sins. It was NOT a Christian teaching.
This is great, Mike. I like it when people quit playing nice and take the gloves off with catholicism or any other heresy. Paul didn't pussyfoot around with nonsense - he bluntly exposed and condemned it.
Of all the world's religions, Protestantism is the leader by far in proclaiming the love of God to mankind. This is meritorious. However, this is a one-way street, as Protestants stop there and don't consider the necessity of reciprocating or returning that love. That would smack of Works which are unnecessary as they believe that they have already been saved by Grace which is God's Love. As a result Protestantism has been down-graded to just a religious philosophy - a hearer and not doer of the Word thus deceiving themselves - James 1:22. While there is belief in Christ to be sure, there is no substance, no forms of worship and thanksgiving to our God Jesus for His works of creation and redemption Catholicism, on the other hand, stresses more on our obligation to return God's Love in Works. The Catholic Catechism states that God created us - to know, love and serve - God - in this world and to be happy with Him in the next. That is why Catholics attend Mass which includes Holy Communion - known as Eucharist, which is the Greek word for Thanksgiving - as well as Eucharistic Adorations, Stations of the Cross, Benedictions, etc John 21:25 states that Jesus did many other things which the written word is incapable of recording. As a result 2 traditions ensued - oral and written - 2 Thess. 2:15 - which are of equal merit. By "Sola Scriptura" Protestants are only receiving part of Divine Truth thus resulting in so many *confused* denominations. The fact is that the Bible itself declares that it is part of divine truth, not the sum total. Again, the Bible only records Christianity in the 1st Century and we are in the 21st C. Recall that Jesus declared -John 5:17- “My Father never stops working, and so I keep working, too.” For God is a Living God. And the Bible declares that the ( Catholic ) church of the Living God is the Pillar and Bulwark of Truth - 1 Timothy 3:15. For Jesus, our Living God, appeared to many (Catholic ) saints and urged them to pray for others - Check the internet for the 15 Prayers and Promises made by Jesus to St Brigid of Sweden in the 14th C. The 1st Promise given by Jesus to anybody reciting these prayers continuously for 1 year was the deliverance of 15 Souls from their lineage from Purgatory. By "Sola Scriptura" Protestants are only receiving part of Divine Truth thus resulting in so many denominations. The Catholic Church was founded on Peter's declaration of Jesus' Divinity - Matt. 16:16 and Jesus' promise - Matt 16:17-19- and holds to both traditions. It is the Church of the Living God and the Pillar and Bulwark of Truth - 1 Timothy 3:15Moreover, Jesus guaranteed - Matthew 16:18 - And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my= Church; = and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it (( Note - The Bible itself declares that the ( Catholic ) church is the Pillar and ground of Truth, against which Hell itself will not prevail )) Jesus' Sermon on the Mount - one of His loftiest teachings - states Matt. 7. [21] Not every one that says unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that -- does -- the will of my Father which is in heaven. From this we recognize that it takes Faith to declare - Lord, Lord - but it is Works - doing - the Father's Will that will take us to Heaven. That is why Jesus commanded - not suggested - that we carry out and - do - all that He commanded - Matthew 28:19-20 - especially our Love for God and Neighbour, as Jesus commanded - not suggested What is the purpose of Scripture - that is The Bible ? All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work Here Paul was declaring that Scripture was God-inspired, profitable for both a belief system as well as an instruction guide so that Christians may be completely and thoroughly equipped for - every - GOOD WORK - 2 Timothy 3:16-17. Thus Jesus, God and Judge - John 5:22 - and the Catholic Church and the Bible stress on the need for Works. Even the Final Judgement - Matthew 25: 31-46 - confirms that Works of Mercy will save us - For I was hungry, and you gave Me to eat ....etc.... Come, inherit My Father's kingdom. Because we are responsible for all sins after Baptism, Jesus on the very day of His Resurrection from the dead, breathed His Spirit and - empowered - all the Apostles to forgive - or retain - Sins - John 20:22-23. This breathing was the same as the Breath that gave the life-force to the earth-created Adam - Genesis 2:7. Therefore Catholics confess to their Priests, as Apostles don't live forever. Confession thus restores the Life-Force to souls deadened by sin, especially Deadly ( Mortal ) sins - James 5:16-17. Protestants don't confess and thereby retain their sins. And because we still retain our Fallen Natures, Jesus has given us His Flesh to eat and Blood to drink as - Real Food and Drink - for Eternal Life - John 6:53-58. After all, we become what we eat and drink. And God wants us to be Spiritual People. Therefore, Paul cautions that we should partake of Holy Communion - worthily - 1 Corinthians 11:27. Acts 2:42 states that the 1st Christian community - devoted themselves to the teaching of the apostles, to the communal life, to the breaking of bread and to the prayers. Our Catholic Mass has originated from this, with readings from the Bible in place of the - long dead - Apostles' teachings - ( continued )
The reason why Catholics and Protestants don't agree on Scripture is because Protestants have missed the Gospel message. The 4 books of the Bible, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are titled - The Gospel - according to Matthew / Mark / Luke / John. This was the same Gospel message revealed to Paul by Jesus - Galatians 1:12 - which reflected the Teachings and Doings of Jesus and which Paul - proclaimed verbally - on his missionary journeys. Later on, after Paul had received reports from faithful and trustworthy members, he sent out letters to the churches he had established to commend them or to correct them and even provide more insight and clarification. The Bible titles these letters as - Epistles - to the various churches of Corinth, Philippi, etc. Thus, these Epistles were Paul's means of keeping in touch with, as well as providing a Review/Report of the status of the churches he wrote to and to whom he had previously preached - verbally - the Gospel. Sadly, Protestants have based their - Doctrines - and belief systems on these commentaries and Epistles - instead - of the 4 Gospels which will be the basis of all judgement by Jesus, God and Judge - John 5:22. The 4 Gospels speak of Tough Love - If you love Me, keep My commandments - and - If you wish to be My disciple, take up your Cross daily, deny yourself and follow Me - and - More - is expected of Christians to whom much has been entrusted - Luke 12:48. , And, Jesus' Parables are often prefaced with - the kingdom of Heaven - or - the Reign of God - and require us to multiply our talents, become more fruitful " soil " as well as become wise virgins carrying oil = which represent " Good Works =, etc Moreover, Jesus declared: “But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.” (Matt. 24:13.) Therefore, Paul and Barnabas encouraged the people to persevere in the Faith with this instruction -We must - endure - many hardships to enter the kingdom of God,” they said.- Acts 14:22. Let's look at some historical facts. Christ died between 30 and 40 AD. The earliest Gospels, Matthew and Mark, were written after 70 AD. The last book of the Bible, Revelation, was written by John within the last 2 decades of the 1st Century. Pauls' missionary journeys were around 48 to 60 AD. Part of the NT -Muratorian Canon - was probably compiled in 180 AD, whereas the Bible as we know it, was compiled much later. This means that, for the most part of the first 2 to 3 centuries after Christ's Ascension, the Oral Tradition was the guiding force of the early Christians. By "Sola Scriptura" Protestants are only receiving part of Divine Truth. Catholics, on the other hand, hold the whole truth Moreover, before Guttenberg discovered the Printing Press in the 15th C, the Bible was laboriously copied by hand by Catholic clergy and monks. It wasn't done by the rich who had other preoccupations, nor by the poor who did not possess the learning - nor by Protestants or other non-Catholics. Also, Catholic St. Jerome, who died early in the 5th Century, was the first to translate the then existing Greek and Hebrew versions into Latin - the common language of the day. Thus it was Catholics and Catholicism that produced the Bible Matthew chapter 4 tells of Jesus' 40 days/nights fasting and Satan's temptation. Satan mocked Jesus : If You are the - Son of God - you don't need to trouble yourself when you could have all the bread to eat, take injury-free risks, and have unlimited power and prosperity. Jesus dismissed Satan. Jesus wanted to show what path Christians must take - If you wish to be My disciples, take up your Cross daily, deny yourself and follow Me. It is not difficult to see whose voice Protestants have listened to. The recent popular - Prosperity Doctrine - taken up by many denominations is an example. Lent is the 40 days between Ash Wednesday and Easter Sunday - not counting Sundays - which is set aside by Catholics to observe a heightened period of Prayer, Fasting, Almsgiving and Good Works. And the month of November is set aside for remembering the dead. Moreover, Catholics are required to attend Mass every week-end and urged to confess their sins and receive Holy Communion frequently. There are Catholics who fast once - some even twice - a week on just bread and water. There are those who do various penances and it is not uncommon to see some who walk on their knees at pilgrimage sites like Fatima, Portugal.
@@margaretlobo9466 didn’t read everything you said but you said “sadly, Protestants have based their doctrines and belief systems on these commentaries and Epistles instead of the 4 gospels” the Bible as a whole collection of books is God breathed. I think your argument that beliefs should only come from the 4 gospels is flawed. If you respond please don’t type too much, keep it short and sweet.
@@undeadborisJesus is the Son of God sent to teach us the Way, Life and Truth to Heaven. He is the Judge assigned by The Father to all judgement - John 5:22. His teachings and actions are contained in the 4 Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. They spell TOUGH LOVE and our - requirement - to observe them in ACTION --- Love God and Neighbour ----If you wish to be My disciple, deny yourself, take up your Cross daily and follow Me ----If you love Me, you will keep My Commandments. His parables are prefaced with - the Kingdom of Heaven -or - the Reign of God - and require us to multiply our talents, become more fruitful " soil, " wise virgins carrying oil - etc. Because we are responsible for all sins after Baptism, Jesus on the very day of His Resurrection from the dead, breathed His Spirit and - empowered - all the Apostles to forgive - or retain - Sins - John 20:22-23. This breathing was the same as the Breath that gave the life-force to the earth-created Adam - Genesis 2:7. Therefore Catholics confess to their Priests, as Apostles don't live forever. Confession thus restores the Life-Force to souls deadened by sin, especially Deadly ( Mortal ) sins - James 5:16-17. Protestants don't confess and thereby retain their sins. And because we still retain our Fallen Natures, Jesus has given us His Flesh to eat and Blood to drink as - Real Food and Drink - for Eternal Life - John 6:53-58. After all, we become what we eat and drink. And God wants us to be Spiritual People. Therefore, Paul cautions that we should partake of Holy Communion - worthily - 1 Corinthians 11:27. Protestants ignore Jesus' requirements above. Instead they - mistakenly - believe that Jesus came to earth to die and take away all sins and its guilt association. They believe that God has changed from being a God of Justice and no favouritism has become a God of unconditional Mercy and forgiveness. This is despite the fact that God is called - Father - and most of our sins and trespasses are against others who are also children of this Father ! (( Note - Catholics believe that Jesus came to die and pay the penalty of Adam's sin which closed Heaven's gates and laid - Original - sins on all Adam's descendants - you and me)) Instead of following Jesus' commands in the 4 Gospels they have invested in cherry-picked passages like - Saved by Grace - (Ephesians 2:8-9) and Romans 10:9. Besides, 2 of Paul's letters have gone missing - see 1 Cor. 5:9 and Col. 4:16 Sadly, Protestants have created doctrines that require no Confession as per Jesus' formula, denial of the - Real Presence - of Jesus in Holy Communion - for Eternal Life, and the need for Good Works despite that the Great Judgement is based on Works - Matthew 25. By declaring that only Faith is necessary for Salvation, they have effectively cancelled the Cross - the very symbol of Christianity. Yet even Paul, like a faithful Christian, boasted of the Cross -Galatians 6:14, Obviously there is a hierarchy of Truths - with the Gospels being the highest and the very - Basis - of judgement by Jesus, God and Judge - John 5:22. By ignoring this fact, the question remains - Will Protestants be Raptured ? Will they be Saved ???
@Michael *YOu clearly have no answer. How do you explain Two third of New Testament that says Salvation is Not By Works"?* Luke 23:43 - the thief at the Cross believed in Jesus and he was in Paradise thereafter. NOT WORKS! John 1:29 - Christ the Lamb of GOD who takes away the sins of the world ... (NOT OUR WORKS) John 3:16 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Acts 16:30-31 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Rom 4. Vs 1-2 - justified NOT BY WORKS! Vs 3 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 4 - WORKS are debts . Vs 5 - he who DOES NOT WORK is JUSTIFIED . Vs 5 - God justifies the ungodly, Vs 5 - FAITH was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 6 - Blessedness Apart from WORKS! Imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS by FAITH. Vs 8 - imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS apart from WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham was made RIGHTEOUS BY FAITH BEFORE ANY WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham received seal of RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH by imputation. NOT WORKS! Vs 11 - Promise to Abraham was through RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH. Vs 14-15 - Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation. Vs 22 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS . Vs 22 - RIGHTEOUSNESS imputed on those who believed. Not those who WORKS! Rom 11:6 - IF IT IS WORKS, IT’S NO LONGER GRACE . 2 Cor 5:21 - GOD made Jesus who knew no sin to become sin for us, that we might become the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD. Gal 2:16 - not justified by WORKS OF THE LAW, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS. BY WORKS OF THE LAW, NO MAN IS JUSTIFIED! Gal 2:21 - if RIGHTEOUSNESS comes through the law, then Christ died in vain. Gal 3:1-5 - Paul said Christians who started by faith, why end up following WORKS of law (not only Mosaic laws)? Are you made perfect by flesh (WORKS)? Gal 3:1-5 - Did God do miracles by your faith believing or by your WORKS of law? Eph 2:8-9 - saved by grace through faith NOT BY WORKS. Eph 2: 8-9 - salvation is a GIFT. NOT WORKS! 2 Tim 1:9 - saved NOT according to our WORKS. Titus 3:5 - saved NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. 1 Pet 2:24 - Christ (the Lamb of GOD) bore our sins … (NOT OUR WORKS).
I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic school, was and alter boy server, at 27 years old I began to read the scriptures and began to see how twisted the Catholic Church really was. It was hard for me to walk sway as I was stuck on the “one true church”, but the more and more I dove into the True Word of God it was clear how much we had been lied to and how much Catholicism contradicted the true word of GOD!!!! It has been over 20 years that I have walked away from the catholic “cult”, and I have shared my experiences with many other Catholics some see the light others are too stuck on traditions. May God open the eyes and heart of those that are being blinded.
Ok so I'm a little late reading these comments as most were written a year ago but here's mine. I am a Christian of no denomination. I love all my brother's and sister's in Christ. I read the Bible and It opened my eyes to the truth. The Holy Spirit came upon me to realise how we are truly saved and who Jesus truly is. My question to Catholics: Are you afraid of the Holy Spirit to help you understand what scripture says? Do you need the Catholic Church to interpret scripture to you?? I struggled to understand some of scripture myself but I did my research, some from Catholics, some from Christians outside of Catholicism. I have to say there are more Godly people who understand scripture outside the Catholic Church then in it. You can see the Holy Spirit is truly inside of them. Again, I ask my Christian brother's and sister's from the Catholic denomination: Are you afraid of the Holy Spirit taking over and opening your eyes to scripture? Or do you need an organisation such as the Catholic Church to explain it to you?? John 3:3 “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” I pray for you. God bless
ByfaithAlone............Jesus said He would build a Church.........an indestructible Church..........His Bride/His Love/His Body.........a great love story..........that He gave His life for........see Ephesians 5: 25-27. So, He was conceived by the Holy Spirit, which puts the Holy Spirit directly in His Church; and the Holy Spirit is the means by which we REMEMBER the things Jesus taught us.........see John 14: 26.
@bridgefin *Remain unchallenged: Deut 4 says “Do Not Make statues in the likeness of male or female”. Roman ct makes statues in the likeness of male and female and bow down to all of them. Who is right? Bible or Roman Catholic Ct?*
@@Michael-nb4ng *Why no answer? Deut 4 says “Do Not Make statues in the likeness of male or female”. Roman ct makes statues in the likeness of male and female and bow down to all of them. Who is right? Bible or Roman Catholic Ct?*
@@jediv3381......The Catholic Church is right because Christ came in the form of a baby/boy/and a man and gave them the power to bind and loose in heaven......see Matt. 16: 17-19........not a puff of smoke. He ate/slept/touched lepers/wept/was beaten/spat upon/crown with thorns/and He died in the form of a man. If YOU feel more comfortable seeing Jesus as a Spirit, then so be it.
@Michael-nb4ng *Why no answer? Deut 4 says “Do Not Make statues in the likeness of male or female”. Roman ct makes statues in the likeness of male and female and bow down to all of them. Who is right? Bible or Roman Catholic Ct?*
@AndrewLane-pm2ro *In the first place, who told you "Salvation not by Works" doctrine is "faith without works"? Faith Alone doctrine comes with Good Works, Eph **2:10**.* *Faith Alone doctrine:* *- Eph 2:8-9. Saved Not By WOrks.* *- Eph **2:10**. Saved to do Good Works. (James 2, 1 Cor 13, Mat 25)* you said James 2:26 says "faith without works is dead"
The Roman Catholic Church is based on The Magesterium. Scripture and tradition are equally important. Besides the Church decided the Canon of Scripture. Without the church, there would have been no New Testament. How can you attribute to a Book more authority than Jesus and the Apostles.
@kim burley.............Not true. At the front of my Catholic Bible is listed the indulgences I receive for reading 15 mins. per day, also I receive indulgences for saying a prayer to the Holy Spirit before reading the Bible. Go .....figure........
You do realize that the printing press had not been invented for 1440 years? Each and every Bible had to be copied meticulously BY HAND, which meant that there were relatively very few of them and they were extremely valuable. Not to mention that most people were illiterate, which only began to change within the last 200 years. Giving bibles out to the public would make no sense at all back then.
@johnsteila6049 *Who says Roman religion can use it's own man made traditions as doctrines? WHEre? Bible clearly condemns that. Col 2:8, Mark 7:8, Mat 15, Mat 23.* *The only traditions Bible accepts was "traditions of Jesus and APostles, 2 Thes **2:15**"; which 95% of ROman pagan doctrines were not from.* you said You’re already getting it wrong. The Church teaches that it stands on two pillars, Tradition and Scripture.
Born-again ex-catholic here. Trust me, NO point arguing with catholics about this because ALL catholics are born into religious bondage which they do not control just like any other world religion (Muslim, Buddhist, Hinduism). Salvation takes place when the Holy Spirit wakes you up from among the dead and your dead spiritual eyes have been opened. If you can relate to this, praise God! If you don't, read the conversation between Nicodemus and Jesus. You can be very religious and not be born again.
I am interested in what Mike says about St. Peter. In the books of Acts it talks about how when something good happened to Cornelius he knelt down and worshipped St. Peter. Peter pulled Cornelius to his feet and said "Stand up you. Do not worship me. I am only a man like you yourself are. Worship your God in Heaven." I am an Anglican Episcopalian and I have read the 39 Articles of the Church of England, and Mike here justifies the substance of the 39 Articles. One more thing. On the subject of the Papal Selection, the Roman Catholic church claims that "God is not elected". God may not be elected but the Pope sure is. Although the Vatican claims that "The Hand of God presides over the conclave to make sure that the right person is elected Pope". However, there is nothing in Biblical scripture that shows that "The Holy Ghost attends meetings, or helps influence their outcomes." In fact in the 39 Articles it is stated that meetings and Church Councils are human contrivances and thus are prone to human faults.
@Michael *Why? Jesus ministered to the canaanite woman and the samaritan woman at the well. That does not mean His ministry was to the Gentiles first. Jesus was called to the Lost Sheep of israel. Similarly Peter. Bible says Peter had a ministry to the Jews. Not Gentiles. Not Rome, Not R Catholics. You dont read the Bible? So calling Peter pope is ludicrous R Catholic. Pure h - sy.* Mat 15:24 But He answered and said, "I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Gal 2:7 📝 But on the contrary, when they saw that the gospel for the uncircumcised had been committed to me, as the gospel for the circumcised was to Peter Gal 2:8 (for He who worked effectively in Peter for the apostleship to the circumcised also worked effectively in me toward the Gentiles), Gal 2:9 and when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that had been given to me, they gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. you said Acts 10
@Michael *Thank you for proving my point. Peter was not sent to the Gentiles, Rome included. His ministry was to the Jews. Peter was not any pope of R Church. R Catholics love inventing m m doctrines.* Gal 2:7 📝 But on the contrary, when they saw that the gospel for the uncircumcised had been committed to me, as the gospel for the circumcised was to Peter Gal 2:8 (for He who worked effectively in Peter for the apostleship to the circumcised also worked effectively in me toward the Gentiles), Gal 2:9 and when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that had been given to me, they gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. you said Acts 10
hi pastor, how about some vids on how you feel about eastern orthodoxy. they are similar to Catholicism, yet somewhat different. both have monasteries. what do you feel about monasteries. I for couple decades felt guilty fer not becoming a monk when I was younger. my physical n mental illnesses seem too much now 4 them to handle. makes me sad. but I am trying to repent from lotsa sins n apologise to Christ. I wish to be a pastor. mch love 4 everyone.
I am obviously not him, but personally I don't think that there is anything wrong with adopting a monastic lifestyle. However I do think there are problems with both Catholic and Eastern Orthodox. It seems to me that what you were/are wanting is some kind of lifestyle that helps give you discipline in your relationship with God. I sympathize, I looked into both Catholic and Orthodox teachings because I wanted to join a monastery, for that reason. Eventually I realized that it was not necessary to join a Monastic order as all I really had to do was hold myself accountable to God, and if I begin to feel convinced about worldly things all I have to do is give it up. Before you know it you find yourself living in a progressively more minimalist lifestyle.
@@ericfisher1360being orthodox does not mean you necessarily leave a monastery lifestyle. There are over 220 million eastern orthodox Christians, I doubt they are all in a monastery.
@@RottingFarmsTV I am aware that being neither Eastern Orthodox nor being Roman Catholic requires a monanstic lifestyle, (Most are not Monks or Nuns) however the option of a systemized Monastic life is not an option in Protostant or Evangelical circles.
Orthodoxy and Catholicism are similar on faith, but different in theology. Much different. Palamism and Hesychasy and the Septuagint Bible are all differences as well as the Pope and the filioque.
At age 13 when I fled the catholic cult. At confession the "priest " had told me ,that if he had a gun right now he would shoot me . I confessed not listening to my mother and kissing the neighbor girl . My age is 72 now and have been born again through our wonderful Savior, Lord Jesus Christ. The catholic "priest "was saved a bullet. I had died with our Lord on Calvary. Love you brother!!!
@Super Genius I disobeyed my mother, I also kissed the neighbor girl . That was what I had confessed to him when I was 13 years old .I turned white from fear and never went back. That was one of the greatest blessings to me, since in my journey, I had born again. Catholicism is a cult . But God could even use that to bring us to Himself ! Thankyou Father !!! Thankyou Lord Jesus!!!
So instead of reporting that 1 priest, you left and left Jesus' church. It's the same as having a bad husband and leave, but leave your children behind....just save yourself. Then say that marriage is bad because you had a bad husband. Don't be proud of escaping, and don't pose as a victim. The victim is the Church, not you, and instead of helping Her , you conveniently left and washed your hands.
@@Shaara1this is the very common problem of the CATs and this is also a reason for me to leave the holey cult of holey sinners and brothel owners...who the hell are you to judge others and their freedom to choose whatever they want? That person or me have never given any agreement to anyone by saying that 'we born cats we die as cats' if so then what's your problem idiot?
Luther, who actually removed 7 books. He also wanted to remove James, Hebrews, Jude, and Revelation from the New Testament but his contemporaries pressured him out of it. Learning about this was one of the straws that broke the camel's back for me.
*Bible does not teach "infusing of packets of grace at different times to be saved" or "partaking sacraments to be saved". Bible teaches "imputation of righteousness". Righteousness was given at an instant. Not bit by bit.* 2Co 5:21 For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. Romans 4. Vs 1-2 - justified Not By Works! Vs 3 - Abraham believed (Faith) and was accounted as Righteousness. Vs 4 - Works are debts . Vs 5 - he who Does Not Work is Justified Vs 5 - God justifies the ungodly, Vs 5 - Faith was accounted as Righteousness. Vs 6 - Blessedness Apart from Works! Imputation of Righteousness by Faith. Vs 8 - imputation of Righteousness apart from Works! Vs 9-10 - Abraham was made Righteous By Faith before any Works. Vs 9-10 - Abraham received seal of Righteousness of the Faith by imputation. Not Works! Vs 11 - Promise to Abraham was through Righteousness Of the Faith. Vs 14-15 - Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation. Vs 22 - Abraham believed (Faith) and was accounted as Righteousness . Vs 22 - Righteousness imputed on those who believed. Not those who works! Rom 11:6 - If it is works, it's no longer grace you said 1)The Catholic Church teaches that you cannot earn your salvation, it is given to you by baptism when the holy spirit infuses in us faith, hope and charity which are necessary for salvation, and for that you only need to be properly predisposed (not to actively resist it) because sacraments work ex opere operato
The Bible proves Peter’s primacy as Pope: Matthew 16:18-19 - If this passage has nothing to do with the special commissioning of Peter to be the foundation of the Church, then what is the purpose of this passage? According to Mike Winger, this passage is a sheer waste, serving no purpose. The problem is with Winger and not this passage. This passage tells us that Peter is the rock foundation on which Jesus as architect will build his Church. Why should Jesus give the keys of the kingdom to Peter if the latter had no special role in his kingdom? What does mere common sense say about this passage? Pastor Winger, please tell your audience about the purpose of this passage. Luke 22:31-32 - “Simon, Simon, listen! Satan has demanded to sift all of you like wheat, but I have prayed for you that your own faith may not fail; and you, when once you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.” All the apostles are in danger of failing in their faith (Peter is no exception), but Jesus prays specially for Peter and commissions him to strengthen the faith of the other apostles and disciples. It is clear that from among his apostles, Jesus chooses Peter for a special mission and leadership role. John 21:15-19 - Whether Jesus was punishing Peter for having betrayed him three times or whether he was testing his love for him, what is clear at the end is that Jesus commissions Peter with the authority and responsibility to shepherd his flock of lambs and sheep. This authority and responsibility is given only to Peter and not to the other apostles who according to Winger must be more deserving of such honour because they did not deny Jesus three times though their running away was not enough to deny him. The gospel according to Winger is a caricature of the truth. In Acts 15:6-21, Peter’s role as the head of the Church is unmistakable. After much debate among the Apostles and elders, Peter stands up to give his decision. The words “Peter stood up and said to them” (15:7) indicates his authority in the Church. Only Peter ‘stood up.’ James also exercised some authority but never equal to Peter. The passage does not say that he too stood up to speak; he merely replied to the debate and seconded what Peter said. His role seems to be to implement the final decision taken by Peter in consultation with the council. Dear Mike Winger, please read this passage carefully and see the difference between Peter and other Apostles. Only Peter stood up to speak. Acts 20:28 and 1 Peter 5:1-4 : If Peter and Paul did not have special place and authority in the Church and were equal to other Apostles and elders, why should they exhort the elders to be good shepherds? It is clear that Peter and Paul were leaders of the Church. Peter is first among the Apostles because of his appointment by Jesus to be chief shepherd of his flock. The primacy of Peter cannot be disputed from the Bible at all.
@@frchristie Celibacy of Catholic priests is not a doctrine of the Church but part of the discipline of priesthood which can be changed if the Pope wants.
@ManAboutTown You are right. The word Pope does not appear in the Bible. The use of this name for Peter is anachronistic. However, the primacy of Peter as head of the Church established by Jesus is very much Biblical. It is the recognition of this primacy that gave rise to the understanding later on that Peter was the first Pope of the Church.
@ManAboutTown I am not surprised that you have no problem with "my opinion." I truly sound like a Protestant with "my opinion," because among most Protestants you don't find anything more than their private opinions which they consider as infallible. For this reason I used a very inappropriate phrase. As a Catholic I don't express my private opinion but the teachings of the Catholic Church. Now what is your take on Peter's primacy as the first head of the Church?
R. Zell None of those guys you listed mean nothing to me, weather catholic or non catholic. What I DO KNOW, is Christ and him crucified. That means something to me. Not who is or is not a catholic, or a reformer, or a protestant of whatever. I chase after the heart of God and his will, not after any man. None of those men, including a list of Popes from your RCC can bring me salvation. But God through his son has, he is way more important to me, than any person you could ever list.
@Asaph Vapor I answered everyone of your questions. LOL. You still haven't went to this site to address my answers to your questions. solasymbolic.wordpress.com/2019/06/14/answering-a-most-vile-anti-catholic-troll/ And again, what is your denomination you coward. Where in scripture does it say Jesus commanded his disciples to be cowards? You are a piece of work or I should say S**t.
@Patrick McCarthy And John Calvin had people burned at the stake. Do you want the atrocities of Protestantism. Because of your ignorance Patrick you will receive from God a slap. But the next time you use this tactic, you will be guilty of hypocrisy. Luke 12:46 the master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know, and will punish him, and put him with the unfaithful. 47 And that servant who knew his master’s will, but did not make ready or act according to his will, shall receive a severe beating. 48 But he who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, shall receive a light beating. Every one to whom much is given, of him will much be required; and of him to whom men commit much they will demand the more. Protestants enslaved almost the entire black race in America.
@Patrick McCarthy The Good Thief Fallacy. I suggest you read it again. The Good Thief Fallacy ~ th-cam.com/video/Jt-YTPSapcE/w-d-xo.html And the Good Thief was under the Old Covenant.
@Patrick McCarthy I belong to the Church Christ called MY CHURCH. It's found in scripture. Paul, the Apostle wrote a letter to my Church. It's called the Epistle to the Romans. Again, your non-denominational is a false communion of lost souls. You and them will hear this words on Judgment Day: "I never knew you."
I hear you... Please hear me... The Protestant churches of current day have turned into social clubs, yoga retreats, feel good craft centers... People are absolutely starving for spiritual support... For 60 years I went to Protestant churches... I simply said there was no Christians anymore 2 years ago I went to a Catholic church... And I haven't left I feel I'm being fed spiritually Through the Catholic Church of TODAY History aside.... Gee ... A lot of really bad stuff in history... Of every group There is really a lot of bad stuff happening right now and nobody's doing anything about it Everybody has an opinion about a little boy who drops an ice cream cone in Somalia.... Rushing in trying to start a GoFundMe for the poor kid Nevertheless, needy people will sit right in front of you in church and try to talk to you... You think they're weird so you turn away You go tell somebody," oh look who tried to talk to me..." And you don't think this is bad do you.... If it makes you feel uncomfortable in any way you run away Yes you do You don't come in and try to help them You will pray .. maybe 🤔 They look different from you or sound different You run away scared... So go ahead rip apart what happened a thousand years ago... Ignorant people and ignorant times Not much different today
You’ve gone to wrong ones. Simply because you found wrong churches doesn’t mean that all Protestant is wrong. This man is not Catholic.. is he doing yoga? No. I go to church of Christ. We do no such thing, we follow all that the Bible authorizes. We do not add or subtract. All you need to do is read the scriptures to find truth. 💕
@@allisontowell2274 you got it all warped! There have been warped theology since the beginning just read the so called church fathers, look at the truth, not the vatican kool-aid but true history of the Roman religion from real beggining to today. False churches exist which is why the Word of GOD was given to us by GOD. Yes, you need to search for a true Bible believing church today especially in liberal left wing states. Calling it quits because you've run into a few bad churches to worst - the Roman religion is your own fault. Satan is powerful & deceiving. GOD'S truth is available to you, you know where it is, turning to a religion of man will all be on you
@AndrewLane-pm2ro *That begs the question. Since when did Jesus or Scriptures ever say "Roman religion = the Universal Church or Church CHrist founded"? Can you prove this self claim of Roman religion before we continue our discussions?* you said the Catholic Church
You say that Hanukkah is not included in the bible but the protestant bible doesn't include all of the books. It leaves out 7 books including 1st and 2nd maccabees, which detail the Maccabean revolt and the origin of Hanukkah. Martin Luther threw out the septuagint because he didn't believe in the historical accuracy of those books, but the discovery of the dead sea scrolls gives us the evidence that those books should be included in the canon.
If the Catholic Church says 1 and 2 Maccabees, Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Sirach, and Baruch belong in the Bible, then those seven Books belong in the Bible.
@@georgepenton808 The apocrypha wasn’t even officially accepted by the catholic church until the 16th century, likely as a response to the reformation. Not only that, but the were not considered canon by the Jews either.
Blessings to all! Just wanted to clear up some common misconceptions about the Church. In regards to calling priests, “father” First, we must remember the context of the passage. Jesus is addressing the hypocrisy of the scribes and the Pharisees - the learned religious leaders of Judaism. Our Lord castigates them for not providing a good example; for creating onerous spiritual burdens for others with their various rules and regulations; for being haughty in exercising their office; and for promoting themselves by looking for places of honor, seeking marks of respect and wearing ostentatious symbols. Basically, the scribes and the Pharisees had forgotten that they were called to serve the Lord and those entrusted to their care with humility and a generous spirit. Given that context, Jesus says not to call anyone on earth by the title “Rabbi,” “Father,” or “teacher,” in the sense of arrogating to oneself an authority which rests with God and of forgetting the responsibility of the title. No one must ever take the place, or usurp the privileges and respect that belongs to the heavenly Father. As Jesus said, only the heavenly Father is the true Father, and only the Messiah is the true teacher and rabbi. In a similar vein, Jesus said, “Whoever loves father or mother, son or daughter, more than Me is not worthy of Me” (Mt 10:37). Because of the authority of the heavenly Father and the respect due to Him, Jesus freely referred to His heavenly Father as “Father,” and taught us to pray the “Our Father” (Mt 6:9-13). Moreover, our Lord Himself used the title “father” for several characters in His parables: In the parable of the rich man and the beggar, Lazarus, the rich man, cries out from the depths of Hell, “Father Abraham, have pity on me,” and the usage of the title “father” occurs three times (cf. Lk 16:19-31). One has to wonder: if Jesus prohibited the use of the title “father,” why does He instruct the people with a parable in which the characters use the title? To do so seems to be contradictory and actually misleading to the audience. The same is true in the parable of the Prodigal Son: The young prodigal son, upon his return, says, “Father, I have sinned against God and against you” (cf. Lk 15:11-32). Given the way our Lord used the title “father” in so many teachings, including when repeating the fourth commandment, our Lord did not intend to prohibit calling a father by the title “father”; rather, He prohibited misusing the title. In regards to calling the pope “holy father”, Only God is holy by his very essence; however, by a person, place, or thing’s association with God, it too can be called holy. To be called holy is to express the idea of consecration, that someone or something belongs to God. That is why the Bible can call many persons, places, and things holy. In Genesis 28:16, the place God appears is "holy." In Exodus 19:6, God tells the Israelites through Moses, "and you shall be to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation." God’s dwelling place in the Tabernacle is "holy" (Ex 28:43), as is the city of Jerusalem (Is 48:2). Even a goat, the victim of sacrifice to God, is called "holy" in Leviticus 10:17. After Christ’s death and resurrection the Christians called themselves and each other "holy ones" or "saints," called by God to be his (Rom 1:7). In 1 Peter 1:16 we read, "it is written, ‘You shall be holy, for I am holy.’" Since we are his holy people, and his people are the Church, it is fitting that the head of his holy people be called Holy Father-not because of his own merit, but because Christ died for him and for the Church that he leads on earth. “Catholics worship statues!" People still make this ridiculous claim. Because Catholics have statues in their churches, goes the accusation, they are violating God’s commandment: "You shall not make for yourself a graven image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: you shall not bow down to them or serve them" (Ex. 20:4-5); "Alas, this people have sinned a great sin; they have made for themselves gods of gold" (Ex. 32:31). It is right to warn people against the sin of idolatry when they are committing it. But calling Catholics idolaters because they have images of Christ and the saints is based on misunderstanding or ignorance of what the Bible says about the purpose and uses (both good and bad) of statues. Anti-Catholic writer Loraine Boettner, in his book Roman Catholicism, makes the blanket statement, "God has forbidden the use of images in worship" (281). Yet if people were to "search the scriptures" (cf. John 5:39), they would find the opposite is true. God forbade the worship of statues, but he did not forbid the religious use of statues. Instead, he actually commanded their use in religious contexts! God Said To Make Them People who oppose religious statuary forget about the many passages where the Lord commands the making of statues. For example: "And you shall make two cherubim of gold [i.e., two gold statues of angels]; of hammered work shall you make them, on the two ends of the mercy seat. Make one cherub on the one end, and one cherub on the other end; of one piece of the mercy seat shall you make the cherubim on its two ends. The cherubim shall spread out their wings above, overshadowing the mercy seat with their wings, their faces one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubim be" (Ex. 25:18-20). David gave Solomon the plan "for the altar of incense made of refined gold, and its weight; also his plan for the golden chariot of the cherubim that spread their wings and covered the ark of the covenant of the Lord. All this he made clear by the writing of the hand of the Lord concerning it all, all the work to be done according to the plan" (1 Chr. 28:18-19). David’s plan for the temple, which the biblical author tells us was "by the writing of the hand of the Lord concerning it all," included statues of angels. Similarly Ezekiel 41:17-18 describes graven (carved) images in the idealized temple he was shown in a vision, for he writes, "On the walls round about in the inner room and [on] the nave were carved likenesses of cherubim." The Religious Uses of Images During a plague of serpents sent to punish the Israelites during the exodus, God told Moses to "make [a statue of] a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and every one who is bitten, when he sees it shall live. So Moses made a bronze serpent, and set it on a pole; and if a serpent bit any man, he would look at the bronze serpent and live" (Num. 21:8-9). One had to look at the bronze statue of the serpent to be healed, which shows that statues could be used ritually, not merely as religious decorations. Catholics use statues, paintings, and other artistic devices to recall the person or thing depicted. Just as it helps to remember one’s mother by looking at her photograph, so it helps to recall the example of the saints by looking at pictures of them. Catholics also use statues as teaching tools. In the early Church they were especially useful for the instruction of the illiterate. Many Protestants have pictures of Jesus and other Bible pictures in Sunday school for teaching children. Catholics also use statues to commemorate certain people and events, much as Protestant churches have three-dimensional nativity scenes at Christmas. If one measured Protestants by the same rule, then by using these "graven" images, they would be practicing the "idolatry" of which they accuse Catholics. But there’s no idolatry going on in these situations. God forbids the worship of images as gods, but he doesn’t ban the making of images. If he had, religious movies, videos, photographs, paintings, and all similar things would be banned. But, as the case of the bronze serpent shows, God does not even forbid the ritual use of religious images. It is when people begin to adore a statue as a god that the Lord becomes angry. Thus when people did start to worship the bronze serpent as a snake-god (whom they named "Nehushtan"), the righteous king Hezekiah had it destroyed (2 Kgs. 18:4).
@Asaph Vapor Catholics venerate their statues but do not worship them. And if "call no man father" were to be taken literally we could not even call dear old Dad "Father".
1 Corinthians 1: 22 Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,
The reason we have have Christ on the cross is because 100% of humanity can relate to suffering. That is why we must pick up our cross daily. Yes he is risen but that is something to look forward to. Let this not be a stumbling block to you.
@@onesneak7668 Christ did bear the weight of all of our sin on that cross, but we do not suffer at all like He did. We don’t relate to Him-the one who took our real punishment-He related to us and then took the brunt of God’s wrath so we don’t have to. I think keeping a physical image of Christ on a cross is not necessary, but it also preaches only half the message and then gets people confused into believing that we are like Jesus or that we can do what Jesus did in regards to truly suffering for our own sins when we really won’t (unless, of course, we choose to take God’s wrath-and some will).
@@judgedredd31 we do relate to suffering,death and asking God why he has forsaken us. Mankind does every day. Just read the Psalms. Paul say's that we "proclaim his death" until he comes also his resurrection. That's why we say to others " do u not know that Christ has died for you". Of course there is more to the story. I was just pulling out the fact that Paul said we proclaim Christ crucified. I've never met anybody that thinks that we can suffer like him. And to say that is ridiculous. Of course we cannot ( regarding taking on the sins of the world). You're mistaken by saying we can only experience his suffering if we go to hell. He suffered in victoriously going to hell is the opposite. A suffering he wouldn't endure can't endure.
@@onesneak7668 "we do relate to suffering, death and asking God why he has forsaken us. Mankind does every day. Just read the Psalms." First, I think we tread dangerously to say we are like Jesus. Yes, we are called to be like Jesus/Christ-like, but we know full well we don't make ourselves perfect, we merely put on the righteousness of Christ. If anything--as I said before--Christ humbles himself to become like us. So it can be somewhat ill-stated still to say we are like him. We are told to pick up OUR cross (our own suffering) and follow him. Of course we can not pick up HIS cross as His suffering cannot be endured. Are you saying he wouldn't/couldn't endure hell? You think the flames of hell could singe Jesus?
@Michael *Why do you keep L all days? Acts 1:13 did not say they have other parents. Which part says so?* Act 1:13 And when they had entered, they went up into the upper room where they were staying: Peter, James, John, and Andrew; Philip and Thomas; Bartholomew and Matthew; James the son of Alphaeus and Simon the Zealot; and Judas the son of James. you said I did say these ' siblings ' had other parents.......moms and dads; see Acts 1: 13.
Why don't you have debate or discussion with Trent? You can't just say your wrong without letting the other side giving their reasons. You have to go and reach out to them, most of your audience are already convince to what you are saying here. Irenaeus debated all he thought that are heresies. Do you really believe in what you are claiming?
READ your Bible and know the Word of God is Spirit filled, alive and active. I too was Catholic for 50 years. God touched my body and healed me thru GOD TV. in 2004. January.... The leading of the Holy Spirit led me to all TRUTHS and the SON set me free indeed... I am a BORN AGAIN and blessed to e a blessing!! AMEN.
@@johnyang1420 NO WAY....THE BIBLE IS GOD BREATHED!! Though the Catholic church found the scriptures, they never wanted to spread the WORD OF GOD. Many men of God were killed for translations of the Bible like William Tindale ..... even today I can assure you that very few Catholics read or understand the Bible. Only the Spirit of God can help us desire and understand God's Holy Word. They need to be Born Again to receive the Holy Spirit. Guess you too are unaware of what is written in the Bible. Had you known; you would appreciate this TRUTH.
“But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.” Galatians 2:11 Seems odd that “the Pope” aka the “ultimate authority” of “the church” would need to be rebuked by Paul. 🤦♂️
Peter was also rebuked by Jesus......see Matt. 16: 22-23. See, Peter is infallible when he speaks/acts on his own thoughts, but when he speaks God's words/thoughts = infallible.......see Matt. 16: 16-17.
Holy Father GOD in heaven GAVE the correct words TO Simon Peter. “You are the Christ; the Son of the living God.” Those words; that declaration of Who Christ IS is the Foundation of Believers.
Even if you argued that Peter was appointed leader of the apostles, it has no bearing on future generations. Just as there stopped being apostles, one would expect there to stop being a leader of them.
Absolutely right. It never says anywhere that the keys to the Kingdom were passed on. They rely on Sacred Tradition to say that it was, which can't be proved outside of having faith in Sacred Tradition. The Bible, and Christ are sufficient.
@@luminous_1 Tradition has been the building block of human sociology for over 25,000 years and orally passed on up unto the printing press in the 1500's. Even the American Indians have oral traditions historically practiced today passed down for thousands of years. Absolutely reasonable to accept Tradition and as a reliable practice for the early Church, how else was the Gospel spread? And it was the same (Sacred) Tradition that finally complied the New Testament books modern day and early Christian rely on as Canonical. The Bible didn't fall out of the sky and deemed sufficient. It was the Church that assembled those books.
@Michael *Why still no answer Roman ct member? How do you explain Two third of New Testament that says Salvation is Not By Works"?* Luke 23:43 - the thief at the Cross believed in Jesus and he was in Paradise thereafter. NOT WORKS! John 1:29 - Christ the Lamb of GOD who takes away the sins of the world ... (NOT OUR WORKS) John 3:16 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Acts 16:30-31 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Rom 4. Vs 1-2 - justified NOT BY WORKS! Vs 3 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 4 - WORKS are debts . Vs 5 - he who DOES NOT WORK is JUSTIFIED . Vs 5 - God justifies the ungodly, Vs 5 - FAITH was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 6 - Blessedness Apart from WORKS! Imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS by FAITH. Vs 8 - imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS apart from WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham was made RIGHTEOUS BY FAITH BEFORE ANY WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham received seal of RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH by imputation. NOT WORKS! Vs 11 - Promise to Abraham was through RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH. Vs 14-15 - Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation. Vs 22 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS . Vs 22 - RIGHTEOUSNESS imputed on those who believed. Not those who WORKS! Rom 11:6 - IF IT IS WORKS, IT’S NO LONGER GRACE . 2 Cor 5:21 - GOD made Jesus who knew no sin to become sin for us, that we might become the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD. Gal 2:16 - not justified by WORKS OF THE LAW, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS. BY WORKS OF THE LAW, NO MAN IS JUSTIFIED! Gal 2:21 - if RIGHTEOUSNESS comes through the law, then Christ died in vain. Gal 3:1-5 - Paul said Christians who started by faith, why end up following WORKS of law (not only Mosaic laws)? Are you made perfect by flesh (WORKS)? Gal 3:1-5 - Did God do miracles by your faith believing or by your WORKS of law? Eph 2:8-9 - saved by grace through faith NOT BY WORKS. Eph 2: 8-9 - salvation is a GIFT. NOT WORKS! 2 Tim 1:9 - saved NOT according to our WORKS. Titus 3:5 - saved NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. 1 Pet 2:24 - Christ (the Lamb of GOD) bore our sins … (NOT OUR WORKS).
Works of the law e.g. kosher/blood/cleansing are different from works of love/charity as Jesus demonstrated in the parable of the Good Samaritan.......purification law versus charity.
@@Michael-nb4ng *Wrong. Apostle Paul did not say its only WORKS OF THE LAW. He included ALL FORMS OF WORKS. SALVATION IS NOT BY ALL FORMS OF WORKS.* *NOT GOOD WORKS* 2Ti 1:9 who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began, Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, Eph 2:9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. *NOT WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS* Tit 3:5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, *NOT WORKS OF THE LAW* Gal 2:16 knowing that a man is not [i]justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified. you said Works of the law e.g. kosher/blood/cleansing are different from works of love/charity as Jesus demonstrated in the parable of the Good Samaritan.......purification law versus charity.
@Michael *Why still no answer Roman ct member? How do you explain Two third of New Testament that says Salvation is Not By Works"?* Luke 23:43 - the thief at the Cross believed in Jesus and he was in Paradise thereafter. NOT WORKS! John 1:29 - Christ the Lamb of GOD who takes away the sins of the world ... (NOT OUR WORKS) John 3:16 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Acts 16:30-31 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Rom 4. Vs 1-2 - justified NOT BY WORKS! Vs 3 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 4 - WORKS are debts . Vs 5 - he who DOES NOT WORK is JUSTIFIED . Vs 5 - God justifies the ungodly, Vs 5 - FAITH was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 6 - Blessedness Apart from WORKS! Imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS by FAITH. Vs 8 - imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS apart from WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham was made RIGHTEOUS BY FAITH BEFORE ANY WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham received seal of RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH by imputation. NOT WORKS! Vs 11 - Promise to Abraham was through RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH. Vs 14-15 - Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation. Vs 22 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS . Vs 22 - RIGHTEOUSNESS imputed on those who believed. Not those who WORKS! Rom 11:6 - IF IT IS WORKS, IT’S NO LONGER GRACE . 2 Cor 5:21 - GOD made Jesus who knew no sin to become sin for us, that we might become the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD. Gal 2:16 - not justified by WORKS OF THE LAW, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS. BY WORKS OF THE LAW, NO MAN IS JUSTIFIED! Gal 2:21 - if RIGHTEOUSNESS comes through the law, then Christ died in vain. Gal 3:1-5 - Paul said Christians who started by faith, why end up following WORKS of law (not only Mosaic laws)? Are you made perfect by flesh (WORKS)? Gal 3:1-5 - Did God do miracles by your faith believing or by your WORKS of law? Eph 2:8-9 - saved by grace through faith NOT BY WORKS. Eph 2: 8-9 - salvation is a GIFT. NOT WORKS! 2 Tim 1:9 - saved NOT according to our WORKS. Titus 3:5 - saved NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. 1 Pet 2:24 - Christ (the Lamb of GOD) bore our sins … (NOT OUR WORKS).
@Michael *Stop misquoting Scriptures you fool. Luke 10 did not say "works saved the good samaritan" does it?* you said Jesus told the parable of the Good Samaritan that demonstrates the ' works ' of the Law versus the ' works ' of charity. Read it in Luke Luke 10:29-37.
The moment i was born again in Spirit, i started to see things which millions of roman catholic people cannot see (my heart breaks for them), specifically the wrong teachings of the church. And this is something that i am very happy to testify in behalf of Christ, that no man has ever told me these things prior to my conversion in Spirit but only God himself did this incredible redemption in my life. How it happened? Well, i had a great encounter with the Lord Jesus Christ himself 3 times! All glory to God! I onced was lost, but now am found. I was blinded, but now i see! Praise God and to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! I'm still a Roman Catholic up to now, and still waiting some confirmation from the Holy Spirit on which church should i go to worship God, or should i just stay in the catholic church. It's all up to God. But what God put inside my mind and inside my heart is something that NO ONE can ever take it away from me, not even some of the false teachings of the historical catholic church leaders. And i am confident, that God will never let anybody snatch me from Him! Not even satan. Oh Lord, may your will be done here on earth as it is in heaven! All glory and honour and power are yours now and forever! In Jesus name, Amen!
@ZhanikaTin Delos Reyes: What are the "millions of things which Roman Catholic people cannot see" and you can? What are the wrong teachings of the Church?
@@bridgefin May the peace and grace of God be unto the both you. If i offended you with my testimony of my 3 great encounters with Christ and how He changed my life concerning the things of God, forgive me, i didn't meant anything by that, but by just trying to tell everyone here how God himself opened my eyes from the false teachings of the church. And with your words also saying that pride and arrogance has in my comment, i forgive you and may the Lord also forgive you. Exodus 20:4 (idolatry is everywhere) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Hebrews 9:27 (there is no purgatory) And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Romans 16:17-18 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. May God Bless us all! 😇
@@Pinkamena3872 You said: i started to see things which millions of roman catholic people cannot see (my heart breaks for them), specifically the wrong teachings of the church. Me: Well, that sounds like Gnosticism to me. You see what billions can't see. That's arrogance. And if the church is teaching false doctrines then Jesus is a liar and the Holy Spirit is ineffective and that is blasphemy. I don't know how you tested the spirit you encountered but I think he visited a garden once under the guise of a serpent. Jesus does not contradict himself and your arrogance is the first sign of your deception. You: i forgive you and may the Lord also forgive you. Me: I need no forgiveness for trying to pull a soul out of deception leading to Hell. And just a hint. Catholics accept and preach all of the bible. You can't quote a verse and expect that we will see what you are trying to say. I love all of what Moses and Paul wrote.
@@bridgefin May the peace and grace of God be unto you. Me : If i offended you with my testimony of my 3 great encounters with Jesus Christ, forgive me. And by saying that arrogance and pride has in my comment, i forgive you. You : I don't need your forgiveness (etc) Me : Now look whose being so prideful and arrogant right now. You : Catholics ACCEPTS and preach all of the bible, REALLY? Me : Well sinced i am raised in a Roman Catholic community and i am also a Roman Catholic, i am only sure about what i see inside the church vs. what i read in the bible more than what you say. 1 Corinthians 2:12-14 What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. May God Bless us all,
Yes i completely agree, I went to catholic school in High school and i can compoeltely attest to this. catholics think they are on authority as to what is to teach about God. And they even try to prove the authority of their religion by referencing the Bible, which as a young kid, not knowing much and your enture family being catholics since its the norm for my entire hometown, i just believed evrything
However, let us ask ourselves why the early Christian Church found it imperative for missionaries like Paul quite often to be summoned in Jerusalem to be head by the elders under Apostle James! What was this if not leadership Hierarchy ? Again why was there a Moses, Chief Priests etc if not to lay emphasis on hierarchical leadership in the Church ? Dear Sirs, Satan is at work dividing the people of God in order to reign over them when they no longer hearken to the admonitions in Exodus 22 : 28.
@Michael *Wrong. Bible says KINGDOM OF GOD would consume all KINGDOMS. You said only Rome. So you are b washed. You lack knowledge.* Dan 2:44 And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever. you said ..Jesus was prophesied to come and conquer Rome in Daniel 2: 34-45; not Babylon/not Medes/not Persia/not Greece.
When you said the the Catholic church "assumes" total responsibility as the source of interpretation of all truth, I'm reminded of this verse: "No more shall each man teach his neighbor or his brother saying, 'Know the Lord', for THEY ALL SHALL KNOW ME, from the least of them to the greatest of them..." Jeremiah 31:34 and Hebrews 8:11.
@@johnyang1420 if Jesus started the Catholic Church, and there's absolutely no evidence of this only the absolute INSISTENCE of Catholics that this is true, then why did they stray so far from Him?
I think Jesus needs to come back and explain everything again so we can all get a do over. 🤦🏼♀️ The more I research religion, the more I realize no one can agree on anything or really knows what’s going on and they just make stuff up as they go along and say God spoke to them. I’m like ugh okay then God must be speaking to a lot of people and telling them a bunch or different things.
The problem is religion. Jesus was not religious. It's about our relationship with Him. If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in your heart that He was raised from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9 Jesus the Christ paid our debt (for sin) in full. We just have to believe in Him and what He did for us. God the Father, saw the travail of His soul and was satisfied, the debt was paid in full. God raised up Christ from the dead seated Him at His right hand, gave Him a name above all names. The question still remains "Whom do you say that I am?"
I'm coming around to the idea that God does have uses for different views. I've heard monks talk about how God called them to their ministry, and I can't deny how genuinely they believed that. Although I believe that I believe the truth, by and large, I think there is also truth to be found elsewhere.
@@Draezeth Jesus said he is the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the father but by him. That doesn't leave room for other belief systems. I'm sure God uses good and evil acts for his plan, but that doesn't mean they're saved. I believe people really do have spiritual experiences, but if it contradicts Jesus/God then it is not of God. People deceive themselves, are easily deceived by false teachers, and demons deceive as well. Narrow is the way to God, broad is the way of man.
born into a Catholic family, I had to endure it for almost 18 years of age. I am glad to have watched this, and it makes sense, look at the ones that are going to that brick and mortar every Sunday, for "church", they don't act Christ like at all. when I left I almost went atheist, but going out in nature, I knew there was a creator. now at 29 I am an ordained minister, trying to help people live the life, Christ wanted us too. why can't we live in peace and love for each other?! Great presentation my friend, keep up the good work. peace and love
Hey Mr Ovich peace be with you It is a shame you spent 18 years and did not come out which an understading of Gods true Church. It sound like you think Catholics believe the Church is the buildings We do not. It is its people those who agree to follow the doctrines of Christ his appostles and their successors, The Catholic Church is the Pillar of Truth (1 Tim 3:15) Jesus created only one Church and appointed only one Steward. (Matt 16:15-19) He gave them authority (Matt 18:15-20) He sent them the Holy Spirit as a teacher (John 16:12-13) He prayed they would always be one (John 17:20-23) And told they he would always be with him (Matt 28:18-20) It is good that you try and help people but it is not helpful for them to be turned away from a true understanding of Christ in his Church. God bless syou
tim spangler Hey Tim Christ be with you If you have a problem with the verse I gave you let me know. Here is another couple. The Holy Spirit is sent to those who obey. (Acts 5:32) Here’s what Jesus command us (Matt 28:18-20) When you are ready yo obey him you to can receive the Holy Spirit. God bless you
+MrKev1664 How can one say, that I am doing bad, by turning people away from a "church" that doesn't teach? If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person? Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth. - 1 John 3:17 If you,Catholics, have all these nice gold buildings and cups and robes and cars and houses, but not want to step away and help the ones in need, because, they are baptized or Catholic, is probably the worst things humans can do. Don't try and hide behind scripture, when all Catholics do, is lie and steal, stack money and live in nice houses and drive nice big cars, and go to special Catholic retreats and never help the people. Peace and love to all, not selection of special people. Don't get me started on false idolatry, Mary and the saints. I will wall the land and help the ones in need, sharing knowledge truth and love to all.
+MrKev1664 by following Jesus' doctrine apostles and their successors, you are living in the way the ones in power want you to be, controlled and oppressed. if you really want to be happy and find Jesus, look for Jesus, and well live by the way, Jesus lived, not his successors. Your answers are the confusing type, like a Catholic would reply, confused in the language of tongues, spoken by the devil to confuse" Catholicism, is to control and confuse thy people, when not only just my case of being somewhere for many years and walking away from the cult like, what the, did they really try teaching me that, or better yet, did they try and create a toll for me to go from earth to heaven? lies and deception on many planes coming from that type of group. stay true and stay blessed I will always educate the youth, letting them only know the truth. The massive children pedophilia's your church hides is disgusting and I hope you are not one of them.
Hey Mr Ovich, Peace of Christ be with you How can one say, that I am doing bad, by turning people away from a "church" that doesn't teach? (1 John 3:17) Response the Catholic church does teach this. You say If you,Catholics, have all these nice gold buildings and cups and robes and cars and houses, but not want to step away and help the ones in need, because, they are baptized or Catholic, is probably the worst things humans can do. Response The Church operates more than 140,000 schools, 10,000 orphanages, 5,000 hospitals and some 16,000 other health clinics. Caritas, the umbrella organisation for Catholic aid agencies, estimates that spending by its affiliates totals between £2 billion and £4 billion, making it one of the biggest aid agencies in the world. Caritas does not include development spending by a host of religious orders and other Catholic charities, while most of the 200,000 Catholic parishes around the world operate their own small-scale charitable projects which are never picked up in official figures. Establishing like-for-like comparisons is hard, but there can be little doubt that in pretty much every field of social action, from education to health to social care, the Church is the largest and most significant non-state organisation in the world. As I said you never learnt very much about the Church before you left it. You show a lack of understanding around idolatry. As I said it a shame you did not come to an understanding of Gods true Church God bless you
@johnsteila6049 *Who says "Roman religion = the Church or Universal Church"? Self claims?* you said Why do you think that you have the right to judge The Church?
i grew up around the catholic church and regularly attended mass and went through all the requirements. the truth is, i don’t think i ever picked up a bible until i left catholicism. i was just taught in high school theology classes about the bishops and Church leadership claiming they are “infallible.” as we can see historically, it is not within human capability to be infallible. there is evil in the world, and whenever you put someone like the pope, in such a high position of power and leadership, you end up with the possibility of fallacy. i go to a catholic high school. i learned all about the saints and the virgin mary, and it never made sense to me why we pray to these people. i didn’t discover truth by going to confession. i didn’t discover truth by learning about apparitions of mary. i am not criticizing any catholics whatsoever, but i firmly believe that only through a real relationship with Christ can we be saved. i began attending a local community church. it was when i started attending that church and when i bought a bible where I truly found Christ and was saved. in order to save the world from all of the evil and hatred, we must rally around the only thing that will not change, and that is God’s word. a great example of the Church’s leadership trying to judge people is through the canonization process. they go through this long process analyzing their life, and then if they pass the test, which is kind of rare, they’re a saint. The only thing that matters is judgement before God. we pray to these saints, but only because a committee of leadership approved it. if we apply the same thing to other people who were perfect and did everything the saints did, except they weren’t canonized, what’s the difference? the natural tendency of the human heart is to sin. let’s stick to God’s word which is truly infallible, and not a “magisterium” that has historically taken advantage of people, persecuted their own people, and deceived people by the whole selling indulgences for purgatory thing. these men are holding themselves to such a high standard. they’re unable to get married for a completely outdated reason that isn’t at all relevant anymore. Christ is the only person who spoke the truth, was the truth, and will forever be the truth. catholic tradition and going through the motions do not truly save you.
You say a amazing statement: "i don’t think i ever picked up a bible until i left catholicism". Who forbade you to read the Bible? In each Mass there are daily two readings, one Old Testament another New testament each year 2*365=730. At least 730 Bible readings along catholic daily Eucharist or Thanksgiving or Mass, each year.
Quinn, if I wasn’t alone in my car; I’d cheer aloud just reading this. God continue to bless you, and the lives of those around you as they take your powerful testimony to heart.
QUINN: Agreed. Former Catholics, like me, all have similar experiences. If we ALL read scripture, took off our denomination hats, put aside "tribal," loyalty, there would be far more Christian unity than we see now. God would smile.
Pastor Winger, you seem incredibly confused about Catholic doctrine. I would recommend expressing your concerns about the Catholic faith with Catholics first, to make sure your arguments at least are sound - this kind of presentation may sound impressive to your followers, but no educated Catholic is going to take anything you’ve said here very seriously. Most of your attacks against the faith are against caricatures of us that don’t actually exist, and pretty much all the rest rely on historical errors or simple differences in Biblical interpretation.
I’m open to being corrected. May I ask for your best example of a caricature that I have made? Not a trivial issue but a significant misrepresentation of Catholicism which causes my argument to fail?
@@MikeWinger You should know this account 'john lawless' is also known on this video reply section as Paul V faithhopegrace summer sunday sam bakos and MORE!!!! This sicko is one of your fellow youtube posters, his first name is Bryan. If you want to know exactly who this twisted weirdo is, let me know.
@@onemarktwoyou LOL ........ I'm not John Lawless, FaithHopeGrace, summer sunday, sam bakos or anybody else. wasn't p-kicker patty your mortal enemy ? who is Bryan ?
John Lawless ........... based on my extensive research Mike seems spot on to me. this is a very common rc complaint but you rc never give a clear example of where we are misrepresenting rcc teaching.
Paul V Lets dialogue then. Let me explain how a fruitful discussion will work. Here’s what Pastor Winger is doing: accusing and making random assertions about what he THINKS Catholics believe, then starting a conversation with us on the defensive. This means we never actually discuss anything clearly. It’s like investigating a murder and starting with accusing a random person, and then forcing them to show you where your accusation is wrong. It’s not a good way to come to understanding. Those things begin with investigation. Why don’t we try instead having a dialogue from the ground up? Let me know if you would like, maybe we can start an email correspondence. Tell me a doctrine of ours that confuses or bothers you, let me explain clearly what it ACTUALLY is, and it’s basis, and let’s discuss it! That’s a lot more helpful than just jabbing back and forth. It would also help prior if you can tell me a bit about what you believe too, as, you knowing I’m Catholic, you have me at a bit of a disadvantage there. Let me know, I’d be happy to discuss with you (or anyone else who wants to know what the Catholic faith really is!) Edit: I will further add - yes, I did in fact point out one error in what pastor mike said to start, and am happy to discuss more. I also pointed to a video that goes over every one of his claims in detail. We absolutely do mention our issues commonly. I encourage you to watch those videos and discuss with the original poster as well!
Anyone, who gives their heart to God and receives Jesus as their Lord and Savior, is part of his (Jesus') church. He is coming back for that bride without spot and wrinkle, not for people who practice idolatry, praying to anyone other than God.
Exactly and we do not need to maintain anything as the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) claims Galatians 3 King James Version (KJV) 3 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. 5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. 7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. 4 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? 2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. 3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. 4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. 6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, 7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. 9 Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness. 10 How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision. 11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also: 12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised. 13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. 14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect: 15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. 16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all, 17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were. 18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be. 19 And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sarah's womb: 20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; 21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. 22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. 23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; 24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. King James Version (KJV) Public Domain
Protestant ministers amd other heretical preachers certainly are wolves in sheep's clothing. "Protestant ministers are enemies of the cross of Jesus Christ." --Pope St. Pius X
@Michael *Stop dodging Roman ct member. Please cite the exact words that implied "siblings of Jesus were children of other Marys". WHere?* Mat 27:56 among whom were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's sons. Joh 19:25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. you said See Mqtt. 27: 56 & Joh
We are only to serve Christ, the Father, and the Holy Spirit. we are to pray and worship the trio. Not Mary, not paul, not the saint, not anyone else. this is false doctrine to serve false prophets and gods. Catholism is so wierd... Why cant we just serve the 1 True GOD - The Father the Son and The Holy spirit.??? how is that human history always just makes stuff up out of thin air??? I just dont understand. BIBLE ONLY CANNON ONLY -- THE BIBLE IS THE MOST ESSENTIAL & holds the most validity in history and proof of our lives and instructions. WE CANNOT ADD OR TAKE ANYTHING AWAY...period
Wow are your facts mixed up. First off why don't you actually do some research before you start bad mouthing other people's beliefs? The Roman Catholic Church does worship one God. The Father almighty. The maker of heaven and Earth. Of all that is visible and invisible. We profess that there is only one God every single Mass and yet you think that we 'worship' other saints or Mary? We believe that Jesus Christ makes all things new. He is the God of the living not the dead. Again, we profess this at every single Mass. As for the Bible, we have three readings from it. We read out of the Old Testament and then the new. We use tradition because this helps complete the story of our faith. Tradition is what the early church used because none of the books were canonized yet. As a matter of fact, tradition started before they were even written. So I guess in your beliefs none of the early church goers went to heaven. They even had to go underground just to worship. So let's talk Bible. How did those books get chosen? Who put that together? How do you know what to canonize and what not to? The church leaders of the 4th century had to figure that out. When they were done they not only canonized the entire New Testament but most of the old. The the antisemite Martin Luther decided to take out 7 of those books. And then you without doing any research act like it was the right thing to do.
@@rangers94ism he did research and he realized how corrupt those books were and that’s why they were removed, and btw those books were added originally the weren’t apart of the original bible
John Henry Cardinal Newman once said, "To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant." 80% of the early church fathers disagreed with what??? The early church fathers didn't believe Peter was who??? Here are only a couple of the literally 60 or 70 you can find in Jimmy Akin's book (listed here as well). TERTULLIAN OF CARTHAGE Was anything withheld from the knowledge of Peter, who is called “the rock on which the Church would be built” [Mt 16:18] with the power of “loosing and binding in heaven and on earth? [Mt 16:19]” [Prescription Against Heretics 22 (c. A.D. 200)]. [T]he Lord said to Peter, “On this rock I will build my Church, I have given you the keys of the kingdom of heaven [and] whatever you shall have bound or loosed on earth will be bound or loosed in heaven” [Mt 16:18-19]. . . . What kind of man are you, subverting and changing what was the clear intent of the Lord when he himself conferred this upon Peter? Upon you, he says, I will build my Church; and I will give to you the keys [Modesty 21 (c. A.D. 220)]. ORIGEN OF ALEXANDRIA Look at [Peter], the great foundation of the Church, that most solid of rocks, upon whom Christ built the Church [Mt 16:18]. And what does our Lord say to him? “O you of little faith,” he says, “why do you doubt?” [Mt 14:31] [Homilies on Exodus 5:4 (c. A.D. 249)]. ST. CYPRIAN OF CARTHAGE The Lord says to Peter: “I say to you,” he says, “that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not overcome it. And to you I will give the keys of the kingdom of heaven . . .” [Mt 16:18-19]. On him he builds the Church, and commands him to feed the sheep [Jn 21:17], and although he assigns a like power to all the apostles, yet he founded a single chair [cathedra], and he established by his own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity. Indeed, the others were also what Peter was [apostles], but a primacy is given to Peter, by which it is made clear that there is one Church and one chair. . . . If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he think that he holds the faith? If he deserts the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he be confident that he is in the Church? [Unity of the Catholic Church 4; first edition (Treatise 1:4) (A.D. 251)]. Akin, Jimmy. The Fathers Know Best: Your Essential Guide to the Teachings of the Early Church
@BOOE John Henry Cardinal Newman Booe Booe HE WAS A BRAIN WASHED CATHOLIC CULTIST JUST LIKE YOU JESUS CHRIST THE MESSIAH IS THGE CORNERSTONE AND THE ROCK NOT SOME MAN NAMED PETER! JESUS WAS JUST SAYING THAT HE WAS BUILDING HIS CHURCH EVEN WITH A FLAWED MAN LIKE PETER WHO WOULD AGREE WITH ME AND WOULD REBUKE YOU AND YOUR cult! the catholic "church" that hasn't excepted the WORD OF GOD AS THE WORD OF GOD but something they can reinterperate! lol r.o.t.f.LOL LOL LOL when the bible says says don't let any man be called father you think that you should kill anyone that doesn't lick your ...... boots ! heiritics,blasphemers idolators self worshippers!
You do know many of the Church father's would not have the same interpretation, right? It is not as good as you may think it is, the Church father's didn't agree with everything Rome teaches, even contradicted some of it especially the early father's who knew the Apostles, the deeper you go into church history the less Romish doctrines you see.
@ Bibliocal Christianity We will know what wolves they are by the body count (100 million and counting)And by the number of molested children 3600 right now in germany!the catholic cult has no idea about what @@reformedcatholic457 is Biblical Christianity !
Dear Mike : Have you realized that how many Church denominations are currently in the world ? There are more than twenty thousands according to the Pew Research survey. Ironically, all of these was started since Martin Luther who led the Protestant movement with its the formal doctrine Sola Scriptura. On the other hand, Catholic is still one since Jesus said to Peter "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church ..." (Matthew 16:18). FYI, My wife and I just finished our Divine Mercy prayer in which one of the intentions ( very Tuesday ) is for the Protestant brothers and others to return to the GOD's true Church, Catholic. May God bless us always. Hendra.
@Brian W. *ROman Ct did compile the Bible for its own community. But all Scriptures of modern days were already there by Ad100s. Which means no one needed Roman ct to compile anything. All churches already had Scriptures for 300 years before Roman ct compiled anything.* you said The Roman Church compiled the Bible.
Me, a Catholic, wondering if watching and debating the points in this is worth it... Probably not. Civil discourse online is kinda hard to come by, lol. Please pray for me, and I'll pray for you.
Try listening to Billy Gram or Charles Stanley or Joel Osteen Try other churches Search for truth Pray for understanding Do you read the Bible gods word Are you learning more and more about Jesus I was a Catholic and found Jesus when I visited another church
They can not even agree among themselves in addition to telling lies about Catholicism Winger said "History shows no Catholic succession and no Popes ...History shows that Papal Succession is true We have a complete list of Popes from Peter to Francis here is the first 10 ..St. Peter (32-67) St. Linus (67-76) St. Anacletus (Cletus) (76-88) St. Clement I (88-97) St. Evaristus (97-105) St. Alexander I (105-115) St. Sixtus I (115-125) -- also called Xystus I St. Telesphorus (125-136) St. Hyginus (136-140) St. Pius I (140-155)
@@walterromanoff2953 I respect and like Billy Graham. I'm sorry you weren't shown Christ in the Catholic Church. There are good Catholic speakers out there at least on par with the ones you mentioned that might be worth some of your time, for comparison if nothing else. Fulton Sheen (preached in the 60s, but still lots of good stuff), Scott Hahn, and Bishop Robert Barron are all really talented, dynamic speakers with some stuff on TH-cam if you're interested in looking.
We just had a small argument with the Roman Catholic people, and they thought that they did not committed idolatry for the names of their statutes are coming from the bible, the only thing that differ is that they use images. Hopefully God will enlighten them of correct teaching.
Jesus didn't build a church where people stays there and pray. JESUS BUILT US to be the temple of His kingdom. If you overlook the BOOK of Corinthians you will see there that GOD didn't want to build a concrete temple cause back in the days of King Solomon they started to build a temple but enemies destroyed it. I am not urging you to leave your religion, I just want you to know what's the truth. You will only see the truth if you, alone will witness it by reading His word (THE BIBLE) which gives us the same preference on how I see the truth. God bless you my brother.
Catholics do not commit idolatry because we do not worship those statues and saints. Yes we honor them and recognize them as important people, but we do not worship them. We only worship God.
@@sammynaas7480 Sammy Naas is correct. Idol worship is forbidden in the Catholic church. We do give honor to Mary and the Saints. Sammy rocks!!! And he knows the truth!!!
@@johnyang1420 the Bible says to worship God with ALL YOUR heart mind body strength. Call ur worship of a cannanite goddess veneration if you want , it’s still worship and idolatry as you bow down to statues
Pontifex Maximus is actually a pagan title for head of the pagan priesthood dating to at least to the birth of Rome. Forgive me for not remembering the names, but the title of Pontifex Maximus was bestowed to a "Bishop of Rome" by a sitting Roman emperor.
@Paul Beduhn.............Napoleon kidnapped the Pope...........boasted that he had destroyed the RCC; then later.........in exile...........he lamented to his general, 'I marvel.........that whereas the ambitious dreams of myself, Caesar, and Alexander should have vanished into thin air.......a Judean peasant , Jesus , should be able to stretch His hands across the centuries and control the destinies of men and nations."
@Michael *Still dodging? Please cite the exact words that implied "siblings of Jesus were children of other Marys". WHere?* Mat 27:56 among whom were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's sons. Joh 19:25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. you said See Mqtt. 27: 56 & John 19: 25.
From Isaiah 22. "19 I will thrust you from your office, and you will be cast down from your station. 20 In that day I will call my servant Eli′akim the son of Hilki′ah, 21 and I will clothe him with your robe, and will bind your girdle on him, and will commit your authority to his hand; and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the house of Judah. 22 And I will place on his shoulder the key of the house of David; he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open." From Matthew 16: 13 Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesare′a Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do men say that the Son of man is?” 14 And they said, “Some say John the Baptist, others say Eli′jah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”[b] 15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” 16 Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”[c] 17 And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. 18 And I tell you, you are Peter,[d] and on this rock[e] I will build my church, and the powers of death[f] shall not prevail against it.[g] 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven,[h] and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” 20
Chris DesRochers All the apostles were given the same directives. There is absolutely no evidence for succession whatsoever. And you take one tiny misinterpreted verse to support your confirmation bias. Look at ALL the Bible as Mr Winger did. The Bible stands as our directive today as the books within were considered truth long before they were compiled together. Anything added to it is heresy according to Paul, if it changes the gospel. Galatians 1:8-9.
@@kkdoc7864 Mat 16:17-19 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. 18 And I tell you that you are Peter, b and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades c will not overcome it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be d bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be e loosed in heaven.” This is a direct conversation between Jesus and Peter. He says I will give YOU, not YOU ALL. so where are you getting your doctrines from?
The Righteous Right Hand The rock is Christ and the statement that peter made. He gave the other apostles the same words. There was never a mention of any successors, and he considered himself an elder equal to the others and James ran the first council in Jerusalem. The ROMAN church did not follow the original gospel
Paul V Before the Fall Eve was referred as Woman, Jesus referred to Mary as Woman.... so the Woman in Chapter 12 is a person not a nation. God Bless Israel !!!!
How can anyone think that Jesus left this earth and left no one on the earth in charge, it’s the most ridiculous thing in the world. The establishment of the Catholic Church is specifically mentioned in John 20:21-23 where he gives his apostles, not all of the disciples, the authority and power that his Father gave him. They knew that strife would come in regards to the episcopate, which Clement of Rome (mentioned in the book of Philippians) mentions in his letter to the Corinthians written around 67 AD (written from Rome, I wonder why that is) that says that the apostles appointed all the leaders and the leaders that would succeed those leaders. It’s ridiculous to say, oh Jesus in heaven is in charge, but no one *specifically* on the earth, just Pastor Bob of his local congregation who feels called to the ministry. The Church would have never survived if that was the model and it isn’t.
Your view of Jesus is too small. He is High Priest over every priest, that is every person saved through faith in Him, and He is quite capable of overseeing His priesthood from Heaven. He is God, after all.
@Michael *Stop L all days Mike Texeira. John 19: 25-26 did not say "siblings of Jesus were from other Marys". Which part says so? Cite the actual words that implied so.* 1 2 3 Joh 19:25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. Joh 19:26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, "Woman, behold your son!" you said See John 19: 25-26.
@Michael *Yes please cite the exact words that implied "siblings of Jesus were children of other Marys". WHere?* Mat 27:56 among whom were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's sons. Joh 19:25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. you said See Mqtt. 27: 56 & John 19: 25.
@Michael *Still dodging? Please cite the exact words that implied "siblings of Jesus were children of other Marys". WHere?* Mat 27:56 among whom were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's sons. Joh 19:25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. you said See Mqtt. 27: 56 & John 19: 25.
@Scott Mlinarich *R Catholics love to assume. You assumed R Church = the Church. Bible most certainly did not say so. Neither real Church History. You will have to prove your claims.* you said As a Catholic, it never ceases to amaze me at the amount of time and energy Protestants spend criticizing the Church in order to justify their own existence.
i was born in a RCC family. born, raised and educated. when i learned about the truth on transubstantion, i got out. i explained to my family and they too understood. after 53 years, i now claim- ONLY JESUS CHRIST SAVES!
@@johnyang1420 what is your basis in saying such? JESUS said come and follow Me (mark 8:34, luke 9:23) never any church DO NOT BE DECEIVED GOD IS NOT MOCKED A MAN REAPS WHAT HE SOWS (galatians 6:7) IN VAIN THEY WORSHIP ME TEACHING AS DOCTRINE THE PRECEPTS OF MEN (mark 7:7)
Why r u people so against the Catholic Church. The Roman.Oethodox an Coptic Christians were there long before the Greeks put pen to parchment. The early church did it by word of mouth and iconography Greeks put into a book the first Bibles. I go to Mass every Sunday and Bible read In several parts. I m fed up with Protestant criticism.
We're not against the church but against the false leaders that have been working for themselves instead of making Jesus the cornerstone. The vatican is the seat of Satan. A little research will show you alot. Im an ex catholic and was called out of the catholic church as for some in my family who saw the light as well.
The problem with the Catholic Church is that many of their teachings are heresy. A few examples: praying to Mary the mother of Jesus and praying to statues and dead saints (that’s called idolatry which will arouse Gods jealousy, anger and wrath), baptizing babies (this one is not necessarily sinful but of completely no value or worth because a baby cannot consciously make the decision to follow Christ. The point of baptism is representative of one’s decision to die to themselves and be raised in Jesus Christ. A baby cannot make that decision for themselves), and confession to a priest and penance (the Catholic Church has distorted the biblical teaching on confession by making it into a ritual that is directly in opposition to the Gospel of Jesus Christ which states that salvation is gained by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone. In other words, these rituals are done in the Catholic Church as a means to earn forgiveness. The Bible teaches us that we CANT earn forgiveness. It is simply given to us as a gift by believing in the Gospel of Jesus.) These are just a few examples, however there are many more. Just read your Bible and pray and the the Lord God may grant mercy on you and reveal to you the truth. God bless you.
Richard Landriault That’s LITERALLY the exact opposite of what the Bible teaches and of what Jesus himself taught. No one is good enough!!! You cannot earn your way to heaven. In fact, that belief is going to send many people straight to hell. “All have turned away, all have become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one” Psalm 14:3 NIV, “As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.” “Their throats are open graves; their tongues practice deceit.” “The poison of vipers is on their lips.” “Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.” “Their feet are swift to shed blood; ruin and misery mark their ways, and the way of peace they do not know.” “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”” Romans 3:10-18 NIV, ““Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good-except God alone.” Luke 18:19 NIV. Read the scriptures, because the Catholic Church is teaching you lies.
Not the church itself but the doctrine of worshipping men and women as saints, as God clearly stated, only the Lord, his son, and the Holy spirit deserve to be worshipped.
@charlesjoyce982 *Mattias replaced Judas. So who are the "successors" of the other 11 Apostles? Please list out.* 1 2 3 11 you said Apostles appoint successors.
the catholic church claims Jesus gave Peter authority .where do the others claim their authority is from and how? The laying of hands!Who else has an unbroken chain.
He was killed after Bishop of Rome was give "the power" and "his seat" by Roman Emperor before he moved his capital to Constantinople. It was the Jesuits who killed him; you can not deny it. That what history say.
What planet do you live on? The Jesuits were not founded until 1534 in Paris France. Peter died around 64 and 68 AD. You're just repeating what your pastor Jimbo says without any evidence. And no way the Bishop of Rome moved to Constantinople bc Christianity 1. Was still very young and 2. It was illegal there until 313 when Constantine made it legal in Constantinople. Cmon man YOU can't deny history.
A strong argument about tradition, is that they are the ones who gathered and put together scripture. Thus... at least at one point. The church fathers really really thought everything in the Bible was super important.
Question is, do the followers of the church fathers read scripture and study it today? Very hard to find those today. My entire life as a Catholic I have yet to meet one who actually studies scripture.
@@Kevin-lw2gl No, it's rather easy. Every parish has some group meetings, usually there is also one related to scripture. So.. where were you looking for...?
@@neosmoker "some group meetings?" Why haven't I seen them? I was an altar boy, went through Cathecism, joined the youth groups, was part of the church choir, my dad was even an assistant to the priest at the local town parish. All of that yet not one time during my time as a Catholic were we encouraged to read scripture, why? I didn't have to look as soon as I left the Catholic church, but I shouldn't have to.
@@danocinneide1885 aha, and is that what Paul did? Just read scripture during worship and not for study? Did the church fathers only read scripture while in Mass? Is there any indication of scripture being recited only during worship? Do you even know what scripture actually says? No, you don't as a Catholic. That big red book the priest pulls out during Mass is scripture? Why don't you read scripture for yourself to actually learn about the life of Jesus and his apostles, about the great men and prophets of the Old Testament. Everytime I engage with Catholics they say to me that scripture isn't the only way to know Christ. Well, they still admit it is valid but yet don't even know it, why? Because you don't study it. "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will reject you from serving as My priest. Since you have forgotten the law of your God, I will also forget your sons." *Hosea 4:6*
My old art teacher told us he called his fiancée after waking up and they both had a dream telling them they weren't meant to be married and that our art was meant to travel to the Florida Everglades and teach art and spread the word of God to those children. The time he moved here most of our town was getting on drugs and moving pot and forgetting God, there are now 3 generations of adults that would've been lost to drugs that are here today because he was always there to remind you God has better plan for your life.
@@baileyrichards3630 Read Isaiah 22 sometime. Its about the same position as pope, that is prime minister to the King who is Jesus. In that chapter you will see that the prime minister is called to be as a FATHER to the people.
@Michael *Yes please cite the exact words that implied "siblings of Jesus were children of other Marys". WHere?* Mat 27:56 among whom were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's sons. Joh 19:25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. you said See Mqtt. 27: 56 & John 19: 25.
There is a big difference in knowing doctrine and actually understanding it. The pillar stands as it has for 2000 years and will until the end of time why??? Because Christ said the gates of hell shall not prevail against her.
+A-Light2theDark The Catholic Church adds SO much cholesterol to the GOOD NEWS...many Catholics don't even know what the GOOD NEWS is. What is the GOOD NEWS?
+Tim Spangler true some do not the good news but the devout ones know better than you. You settled for a watered down version of Christianity that took away from Christ teachings then accuse us of doing what they did sad really.
+Patrick Montgomery So it is very obvious that u have not heard Targums, Septuagint and the Vulgate. Yet here u are lecturing and accusing the Cstholics. So what happened in 330 AD that u kept emphasizing the Catholics split from what?
+Ann Merrick Again u are wrong bc u only have to look at the Catacombs and Tombs of Early Christian Martyrs between 2nd to 4th century in Appian Way outside of Rome. Not only that in Asia Minor particularly in Cappadocia caves. The place where St. Paul started his ministry. There are 3,500 carved churches of tufa rocks all over. U will find the oldest art of Madonna (Mary) and child similar to the Catacombs in Appian Way. Also, account of Mass written in 2nd century in details by St. Justin the Martyr who was beheaded by the Roman soldiers bc of his faith. There are many more writings from early Church Fathers and biblical archaeology sites.
They took the scriptures and made it impossible for the common man to get copies by hoarding it and keeping it in Latin which the common man couldn't read. Selfish controlling evil Rome, no big surprise. Come out of her my people. Let God be true and every man a liar.
*ROman popes are such "wonderful" people.* 1294-1303 Pope Boniface VIII Committed repeated incest upon his children and fathered illegitimate children by them. The poet Dante visited Rome and described the Vatican as a sewer of corruption. Pope Boniface VIII also publicly declared the following: “to enjoy oneself and to lie carnally with women or with boys is no more a sin than rubbing one’s hands together” [History of the Church Councils, Book 40, art. 697]. Sent mercenaries to destroy other people’s castles, declared all the prominent Italian Colonna family’s property forfeited and proceeded to parcel their land out among his family members. Excommunicated the king and released a decree stating that “every human creature [was] subject to the Roman pontiff.” In 1302 issued a well known Unam Sanctum which declared that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true Church, outside of which there is no salvation. He may have forgotten to read the Bible: Acts 16:31 King James Version (KJV): 31And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. References.
@Siege Heavenly *Bible does not say Church = Roman Ctsits + Orthos. Not once. So where did you get all your man made claims?* *Bible uses the words CHurch and Churches. This is how Bible defines them.* ⭐ Biblical definition of Church and Churches in the Bible. ⭐ R Catholics do not know what is the biblical meaning of Church and Churches in the Bible. - Church in the Bible refers to "all local churches + all believers". - Churches in the Bible refers to "local churches or believers. *So effectively any group of believers = a Church. So R Catholics’ questions are irrelevant. Bible does not say Church need to be in certain period of time to be a Church; since Church = any group of believers.* 1 *Bible mentions Church in general referring to all churches as a whole.* 1Co 11:22 What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and shame those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you in this? I do not praise you. 1Co 12:28 And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. 1Co 14:4 He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church. 2 *Bible mentions churches = local churches* Act 9:31 Then the churches throughout all Judea, Galilee, and Samaria had peace and were edified. And walking in the fear of the Lord and in the comfort of the Holy Spirit, they were multiplied. Act 15:41 And he went through Syria and Cilicia, strengthening the churches. Act 16:5 So the churches were strengthened in the faith, and increased in number daily. Rom 16:4 who risked their own necks for my life, to whom not only I give thanks, but also all the churches of the Gentiles. Rom 16:16 Greet one another with a holy kiss. The churches of Christ greet you. 1Co 7:17 But as God has distributed to each one, as the Lord has called each one, so let him walk. And so I ordain in all the churches. 1Co 11:16 But if anyone seems to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God. 3 *Bible mentions "church = believers".* Rom 16:5 Likewise greet the church that is in their house. Greet my beloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia to Christ. 1Co 16:19 The churches of Asia greet you. Aquila and Priscilla greet you heartily in the Lord, with the church that is in their house. Col 4:15 Greet the brethren who are in Laodicea, and Nymphas and the church that is in his house. 4 *R Catholics have the wrong definition of Church. To R Catholics, Church meant R Catholic Church which Bible says its Not!* you said Protestantism has no reason to exist leaving Orthodoxy and Catholicism as havinf the only possible legitimate claims to being the church Christ founded.
How does the words of Jesus conform to you. you have a choice to make is Jesus lying or telling the TRUTH. John 6: 47 King James Bible Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. John 5:24 24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life John11 25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: 26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? YOU HAVE A CHOICE TO MAKE IS JESUS LYING OR TELLING THE TRUTH? I PUT MY FAITH IN HIM THAT HE IS TELLING THE TRUTH AND THE POPES ARE ALL LIARS. you dont believe the gospel that's number problem with Roman Catholics. 1Corithians 15:1-4 1 Moreover, brethren, I DECLARE UNTO YOU THE GOSPEL which I PREACHED unto you, which also ye have RECEIVED, and wherein ye STAND; 2 By which also "YE ARE SAVED", if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have BELIEVED IN VAIN. note note 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I ALSO RECEIVED, how that CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS ACCORDING TO THE "SCRIPTURES;" 4 And that he was BURIED, and that he ROSE AGAIN THE THIRD DAY ACCORDING TO THE "SCRIPTURES:" BE BLESSED AND REPENT FROM THIS RELIGIOUS FALSE SYSTEM OF PAGANISM AND IDOLATRY AND BELIEVE THE GOSPEL
CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THESE SIMPLE VERSES ROMANS 10 8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the HEART man BELIEVETH UNTO RIGHTEOUSNESS; and with the MOUTH CONFESSION IS MADE UNTO SALVATION. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is RICH UNTO ALL THAT CALL UPON HIM. 13 For whosoever shall CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED. 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have NOT BELIEVED? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have NOT HEARD? and how shall they hear without a PREACHER? 15 And how shall they preach, except THEY BE SENT? as it is written, How BEAUTIFUL are THE FEET OF THEM THAT PREACH THE GOSPEL OF PEACE, and bring glad tidings of good things ACTS 11 (Peter preaches the gospe to GENTILES) 15 And as I began to SPEAK, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning. 16 THEN REMEMBERED I THE WORD OF THE LORD, how that he said, JOHN INDEED BAPTIZED WITH WATER; BUT YE SHALL BE BAPTIZED WITH THE HOLY GHOST. 17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like GIFT as he did unto us, who BELIEVED on the LORD JESUS CHRIST; what was I, that I could withstand God? 18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and GLORIFIED GOD, SAYING, Then hath God also to the GENTILES GRANTED REPENTANCE UNTO LIFE. BELIEVING THE GOSPEL IS SALVATION, AND IF YOU ARE NOT TRUSTING JESUS FOR SALVATION AND ARE TRUSTING IN YOUR INSTITUTION, YOU ARE NOT SAVED. JESUS GIVES ETERNAL LIFE TO ALL WHO TRUST IN HIS FINISHED WORK ON THE CROSS FOR SALVATION. IT IS FINISHED, JESUS DID IT ALL BE BLESSED AND BELIEVE THE GOSPEL.
@@livingwater7580 as a Catholic I agree with you absolutely. If you are not trusting Jesus for salvation and trusting in your institution, you are not saved. Nobody would disagree with that.
Yea a debate, or even just a dialogue.. not the same as a fight.. If Mike is going to make videos like this, he should be able to at least dialogue with a catholic apologist. These types of civil interactions are helpful for everyone. Unlike a fight.
Horn would destroy him. Watch Trent horns channel. He already debunked all he said. What’s left is a debate. It’s almost comical listening to this boy.
Trent doesn't try to win arguments and get one over his opponents. He is such a respectful person and you never hear an ad hominem pass his lips. He's humble so I will say it for him. He's unbeatable!
Pastor Winger, there is authority in every group, organization, and in Christianity no matter if it is Catholic or Protestant. In a family, the parents are the authority, In a school, the superintendent, principal, and teachers are the authority. You are the authority in this video. You are the authority in your church. There must be authority or everyone is completely on their own with no direction at all. If that were to happen in Christianity, it dies. You seem to advocate this. That no one should have authority over another's faith. I think this is dangerous. This does not mean that people should be mindless robots. Catholics are not mindless robots. Catholics have a choice just like all Christians on how they participate in their faith. The Catholic faith is reasonable, logical and biblical. It is reasonable to interpret John 21:15-19 as the Catholic Church does. It is reasonable to believe that Peter has a special place in the church. As a Catholic, I do not understand why the Catholic Church is continuously bashed. Rarely, do I see one protestant faith criticizing another protestant faith. Does the Catholic Church scare you that much?
Mike Zimmerman: I agree that " bashing," is not helpful nor Christian. The reason the Roman Catholic Church may get more criticism than other churches ( excluding Mormons) is because it is so far removed from scriptural doctrine. There is an equal degree of criticism of the Prosperity Christian churches and Word of Faith Churches. These churches are preaching a false gospel.
@@xuniepyro7399 PLEASE STOP. Make your argument. Challenge the arguments of others. But the personal attacks are not helpful. If your intent is to persuade Catholics or any Christian of the truth of scripture, the attacks will never do that. It's unchristian behavior. When we stand before God, it will be our behavior NOT our beliefs that God will judge.
@rafaeljaimes6958 *Acts 15 says even NT Church took doctrines from "what God says and said". Which part RCs do not understand?* *And the most crucial part is: nowhere 1 Tim 3 ever said "Roman religion = the Church". So where is your proof that it was so? Only self claims?* you said 1 Timothy 3:15 "The Church of the living God, the pillar and base of the truth" what do you don't understand?
I grew up Catholic, tried reading the Bible but it was JUST a book... it had stories and that's it... often it was vague... and I was dependent on my priest to explain... but very few wisdom are every shared based on scripture... and homilies are often personal recounts or "whatever agenda" is being discussed... very few from the scriptures were delivered during countless of homilies at mass... My life wasn't changing, I led and bathed in sin... I cussed and saw the world in a very human - me centered state. Sure I would do acts of mercies but never were they really from my heart. Catholicism gave grace by pieces through me working out my salvation and trying to appease an angry "god". Yes, I knew John 3:16 but never did I know the gravity of what it meant to me... I prayed to the saints and had a talisman on me of a particular saint blessed in Rome... to protect me... I said that I wasn't worshiping them and these statues were just reminders... oddly I kiss them and touch them... put my trust on them to mediate my prayers to Jesus then to God.
I never knew any Catholic, especially my priests, who lead me to Jesus himself... people lead me to Mary, to the saints... and pointing me to the church... the pope... but Jesus always felt far... Often than not... most of my friends are Catholic like I am... and we did things that will make going to mass is like being burned in hell... went to girly bars and cuss then on Sunday we will be at mass... maybe do confession but will go through the entire cycle again and again. No one really pointed me to Christ... it had a semblance of it... Jesus was a background figure like Luke Skywalker was in The Force Awaken and The Last Jedi. There was something always ahead of Jesus... God was vengeful... I guess that was why... vengefulness is a character of Catholicism... when they condemn anyone who disagrees.
One day (I was 28, I am not 44), was invited to a Bible study... imagine a Catholic like me... doesn't want to go to Bible study... I felt dirty and will probably burn. Took weeks, months before I thought to have it a try... and it wasn't what I was expecting.
Eventually, I encountered Jesus and I understood what being a sinner is all about... what sin really is... I never in my entire life have I been so honest to God that I was crying and admitted to needing a savior. I finally understood what John 3:16 really means... from that day on... my life changed. Now when I read the Bible... it is alive... it isn't just a book filled with stories... it is a guide to what matters and that is knowing and having a relationship with the one who should have center stage in my life and that is Jesus Christ.
I tell this out of love... for Christian's... pray for your Roman Catholic friends. Just like me I was blind and continue to be blind until the day I was "born again" (surrendered my life to the Lordship of Christ).
Christ should be the only center of our being... and not co-equal to any organized group as what the RCC is saying... because as much as any Catholic will deny this... the RCC is at equal importance to Jesus himself, that apart from it... even if you hold Jesus at the highest esteem... you are condemned and called a heretic.
Why will a group of people condemn you, when Jesus himself said that He did not come into the world to condemn it? If Jesus said by the fruit (character) people will know who are truly His disciples... what fruit is being shown then?
The KJV bible is gods word, Jesus Christ teachings are in there, I am a Christian and do not go to a church, Jesus is king.
I support you Norman Lee as I was also the lost sheep which was found.Indeed I received salvation after realizing my true image of only evil continually,as in Genesis 6:5.I am very happy because I don't give my devotions to statues which I was also worshipping and praying at to forgive me my Sins.I surrendered my life to Jesus and joined other saints in a true gospel spreading church.I aslo understood the meaning of John 3:16.
@@christineowino2211 Why did you leave the Catholic Church?
@Norman Lee: Why did you leave the Catholic church?
@@HeartNDagger18 Really? Did Almighty God give the KJV to the protestants?
My wife was Catholic when I met her. I started reading Vatican 2 through with her comparing it to the bible. She wasn't Catholic by the end of it. I didn't even have to start Trent.
Sounds like she was a weak Catholic. My guess is that you imposed your Protestant interpretation as the only valid one. That interpretation does not exist in Heaven.
@@bridgefin Unfortunately for you she was raised Catholic and educated in a Catholic school. If then she was a weak Catholic (informationally) then it would be the fault of the Catholic church in question.
I has also deconstructed my raised church tradition (Evangelical assemblies of God). All the way to atheist and back to Christianity on very basic points Christ and him crucified etc.
I did with her what I did for myself. I Took the statement of faith from the denomination and compared it to the bible. Reading commentaries on interpretations pro and con. All the while trying to keep cultural context in mind. I am happy to admit when Luther was wrong, or right the same as any Pope, Pastor, Minister, and Priest.
You then categorize points of doctrine into 3 sections: Biblical, Extra Biblical, and Un-Biblical. You then ignore the first two and focus on the last. You then focus on educating your self enough to change "appears contradictory", to "actually contradicts". Like Calvinism's double predestination.
I would be careful before accepting any "interpretation's" from heaven as well, unless it came from God (any of the three parts will do).
@@malvokaquila6768
You: then it would be the fault of the Catholic church in question.
Me: They were both at fault.
You: I am happy to admit when Luther was wrong, or right
Me: I'm sure our lists would be vastly different.
You: I Took the statement of faith from the denomination and compared it to the bible....You then categorize points of doctrine into 3 sections: Biblical, Extra Biblical, and Un-Biblical. You then ignore the first two and focus on the last. You then focus on educating your self enough to change "appears contradictory", to "actually contradicts". Like Calvinism's double predestination.
Me: Ah, so you chose the bible to be the decision criteria. Does the bible ever claim to be such or does the bible say that the church is the pillar and foundation of truth? You just used the wrong criteria.
Let me suggest to you how a follower of Christ should do that. First you find out if Jesus ever thought to establish a church. If he did then you ask if he gave that church any protection. Well, he did say that the gates of Hell would never prevail against it. Did he ever promise that it would get doctrines right? He did promise that the spirit of truth would be with its leaders forever. Then the final question is real easy.....How in the world could I pick some other church and still say that I want to be saved?
@@bridgefin "They were both at fault." Interesting She was educated in the faith and in the school and its the students fault?
"you chose the bible to be the decision criteria" So do you if you actually care about the claims laid out in the text. The Bible does have them you know. It would be like forming a company with bylaws then violating them. If church doctrine contradicts the text then either they were Extremely stupid in adding them or they just wanted power beyond that of their founding charter.
Jesus ascended into heaven prior to the founding of the church in Israel and Christianity spread out from there. Conflating church with "Roman Catholic" is Pure equivocation.
Mathew 16:18 I will build my church (Ekklesia) Greek word defined as “a called-out assembly or congregation.” commonly translated as “church”.
Who is building the church? Answer Jesus.
Who is the head of the church? Answer Jesus.
I'm glad for you. I was raised by YECs, so I know how frustrating it can be having loved ones with bad methodology. I wish I could manage to be a persuasive as you were, but at least they have good doctrine on salvation. I hope your marriage is great and your children come to know God as you have. :)
Jesus said, I am the way, the truth and the Life no one comes to the Father but through me...
All the more reason to join the Church Jesus founded---the Catholic Church---and not some man-made Church.
@@georgepenton808 The Catholic Church was started by a pagan sun worshipping Constantine. In the 4th century.
Prove that Catholic church is pagan. No proof of that.
George Penton is right. Jay is wrong.
@@johnyang1420 Here is the Proof, sacraments are man made rituals,praying to Mary and the saints is no where to be found in the bible, the Monstrance is the exact same symbol of Dagons sunburst,The popes garb is the same Garb that Dagon wore, the church doctrine and rules are always changing(The Bible never changes ) ...and the topper is the Pope saying that Muslims and Buddhists can also go to heaven...
3:51 John 21:15
26:40 Pharisees
35:07 History
49:20 Gospel
Religious people will destroy a person to keep a tradition......Jesus will break a tradition to help a person.....out with the dead religion and dead sedition that keeps people from having a personal relationship with Christ Jesus.
Right but protestant tradition came about like 1500 to 2000 years later
@@cfG21 Not really, it was a recovery of the old truths that had been replaced by traditions. Not a complete recovery though, which is why reformations kept happening and creating new denominations. Someone found a forgotten truth in the Bible, the old guard didn't like being told what was true, and bam, division.
But thanks to the diligent work of Biblical scholars, we have most of the truth, and it's up to us to pray and read in our search for the truth.
@@margaretlobo9466 What? So I have to eat His literal flesh and blood to have covenant with Jesus?
@@JPLMONEY23 Yes, this is what Jesus decreed. And Paul confirms this in 1 Cor. 11:25 -"This cup is the new Covenant in My Blood." As drinking blood was forbidden in OT ( Leviticus 7:27 ) many of Jesus' disciples broke away from Him (John 6:66) as they couldn't stomach this teaching which they claimed was " too hard to bear." Catholics call the partaking of Jesus' Flesh & Blood as Holy Communion/Eucharist. Check the Internet for Eucharistic Miracles, esp. Eucharistic Miracle of Buenos Aires. God bless
Ok, then give me a verse that support faith alone and where it says in the Bible that only the Bible has authority. You can't. And James 2:14 disagrees with you. Why do Catholics need to give verses for their beliefs when u can literallyread the catechism while every protestant has different beliefs for everything and they don't even care to see that the Bible doesn't support protestantism.
*R Catholicism has nothing to do with God and His Words. R Catholic Church contradicts Scriptures in every possible ways!*
1. Catholics say Mary was sinless. But BIBLE says Mary offered a sinner's offering. She was a sinner. Bible says Mary needed a Saviour. Lk 2:23-24, Lev 12:6-8, Rom 3:10.
2. Catholics say clergies must be celibate. Yet BIBLE says Peter (supposed R Church first leader) had mother in law. Bible says celibacy is not a qualification for clergies. Mat 8:14-15, Mar 1:30-31, Luk 4:38-39.
3. Catholics say Mary was forever virgin. Yet BIBLE says Jesus had brothers and sisters. Mary was not perpetually virgin. Mk 6:3, Mat 13:55, Mat 27:56, Mar 6:3, Mar 15:40, Mar 15:47.
4. Catholics say confess to R priests in a box. BIBLE says nothing about confessing to priests in a box. Bible says confess to GOD only. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6, Romans 10:9-10.
5. Catholics say drink of the literal blood of Jesus. Yet OT and NT both say do not drink blood. Acts 15, Lev 7:26.
6. Catholics say pray to passed on Mary and "saints". Yet BIBLE says do not contact the dead. NT Church did not record a single case of NT believers asking passed on saints to pray for them. Deut 18:11, Isaiah 8:19.
7. Catholics make and bow down to statues. BIBLE says do not bow down to graven images (statues). Deut 4, Exo 20:4-5.
8. Catholics sprinkles “holy water”. But NT Church of the Bible mentioned nothing about “holy water”. There was no record of any Apostles sprinkling “holy water” on believers. Catholics claimed “holy water” came from OT. Yet Num 5:17 says “holy water” was water used to test adulterous women in OT temple. Hardly the same. Those were for Old Covenant Jews. Not New Testament Christians.
9. Catholics say Peter was pope - bishop of all bishops. Yet BIBLE says Peter was just a leader of the Jerusalem Church. Bible says nothing of the office of bishop of bishops. Gal 2:9, Mat 16:18.
10. Catholics say there is a seat of Peter. Yet BIBLE says nothing about it. Jesus said “not to lord over others”.
11. Catholics has clergy priesthood. Bible says clergy priesthood was done away with in New Testament. There is no clergy priesthood in NT. Heb 7:27, 9:12, 10:10.
12. Catholics preaches Works Salvation (faith + good works + partake R sacraments + submit to R pontiff + be in R Church + devote to Mary = to be saved). Yet Bible says “believe in Jesus to be saved”. Bible says Works Salvation is cursed. Gal 1:8-9. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16, Romans 10:9-10.
13. Catholics says they must do Penance to atone for their sins. Yet Bible says repent, confess and sins will be forgiven. Catholic Bible changes the word “repentance” in NT into “penance”. Original Greek NT does not use or mean the word penance. Penance = work to atone for sins. Repentance = change of heart. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6.
14. Catholics say Mary went straight to heaven without dying. Yet Bible says nothing about it.
15. Catholics say Islam and Christianity have the same GOD. Yet Islam doesn't believe in death and resurrection of Jesus and Trinity.
Many of us get stuck at seeing the tragic figure of Christ on the cross without remembering that HE CONQUERED DEATH!
Why this preacher teaching always by his own private interpretation always out of the blue so misleading and hated catholic somuch lthink he want to establish anew sect .
About church father ,thatmeans he become a father of faith of the church,just like Abraham he become our father in the faith you mean after all he never become our father?you just introduced your self as if you know everything but a master of none .demon do nothing but destroy the church making confussion plating fire.
Speaking of authority itwas given to the churh he founded to an appointed ldrs. The key which represent authority to lead.mt.16:18,18:18,28:19-20,Jn.20:21-22,Jn.21:15-19.and you said it is not? Wow!!.
How can you say ‘’tragic figure of Christ on the cross” when it’s the SALVIFIC WORK OF CHRIST, to which St Paul retorts us to REMEMBER!! Jesus indeed conquered death. A Catholic crucifix is not a mockery of Christ’s work, it’s a loving reminder of how much Jesus LOVES YOU. How is that ‘’tragic’’, or something to be ashamed of?
@@marioeresma9556 Researching Vatican 1 and 2, and Trent, and Catholic doctrine isn't private interpretation and certainly not "out of the blue." Prayers for you sir and the Peace of Jesus who is the eternal head of His church.
To me, it seems that once you are saved by faith you don't have to try to do good works, its like doing good just comes automatically, without trying.
I mean it's kind of true. Or I guess it is true.
A faith that saves will be accompanied by good works.
@@Juju-u3tgenerally, yes
If your works are not good you do not truly believe. Faith lies in action which determines salvation.
“He [St. Paul] shows in the clearest manner through what things it is that man goes to destruction, if he has continued to live after the flesh…” - St. Irenaeus
yes, because the fruit comes from the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit starts working in you.
I like that equation: Faith in Christ Jesus = Salvation + Works
and NOT: Faith +Works = Salvation.
Very nice Pastor Mike, very nice indeed.
See Luke 19: 1-9, where Jesus declares ' SALVATION ' after alms giving and atonement.
@@Michael-nb4ng How is that working out for you.
@@Michael-nb4ng thats a show of
repentance and an act of faith, much like those described in Hebrews 11. Not saved by alms
@@Michael-nb4ng psalm 49:6-8, hebrews 9:22, 1 Peter 1:17-19.
Just if youre interested
@@Triggerhawk........I am interested. James 2: 14 & Matt. 25: 31-46........ just if you're interested.
I’ve been running into the problem of presumptive authority when talking to Catholic followers. I’ll quote the Bible, And they still won’t believe me.
Jesus did not leave us a Bible........He left us a Church........see Acts 1.
@@Michael-nb4ng you just referenced the Bible to make your point.
@@dtshotme...........See Acts 1: 8 = witnesses.
@@Michael-nb4ng just so we’re 100% clear, I’m not denying Christ left us a church. Never even hinted at that. I’m denying Roman Catholic claim to authority.
@@dtshotme........Sounds exactly like the Protestant movement = 100, 000 Holy Spirits creating 100,000 denominations and non-denominations. A free-for-all.
1 Timothy 2:5 .....'For there is one God, and ONE MEDIATOR between God and men, the man Christ Jesus and nobody else
The U.S. ambassador to Great Britain is the one mediator between the American and British governments. That doesn't mean you can't ask an assistant ambassador or embassy clerk to help you with a problem.
George Penton - God doesn’t need assistant mediators.
@@georgepenton808
who is Jesus assistant mediator lolololololololol, give me the chapter and verse.
I guess you do not believe what God said in his word,
the verse says "ONE MEDIATOR" IT DOESNT SAY CO- MEDIATORS.
YOU ARE REJECTING THE WORD OF GOD FOR THE TRADITION OF MAN
@@livingwater7580 It seems that all the Apostles were mediators between the converts and Jesus.
Mo Michaux What about 1 Timothy 2:1-4 ? Anti- Catholics are toxic!
"We need clear teaching, not vague implications... Especially when someone is claiming to have authority over the entire world". (5:50) I'm gonna have use that as a quote someday!
Agreed. States the case really well.
That's rather funny, looking at the fact that guy is coming up with his own interpretation of scripture many times in the video and no one knows where that intepretation came from.
"You would never read the Bible and come up with...."
We are talking about Bible, that was wrote, gathered and protected by Catholic Church for centuries. If someone has a quote from it, only the Church can say what was the meaning. Coming up with own interpretation is a first step to atheism, because interpretations done without any method and view on the whole theology will end up as a bunch of contradictions.
@@neosmoker "Only the church can say what was the meaning" - you do realize that the church is interpreting the Scriptures themselves? And then you are interpreting what the church is telling you. Whenever someone says something to you you have to interpret it. Interpretation is not an argument for Catholicism, rather against it.
@@friedrichrubinstein It's pretty much normal that any teological content written hundred of years ago needs interpretation. Also people who write it had something in mind - so there is always layer of interpretation just to understand the original authors. Besides... even in regular talks people misunderstand each other from time to time, because interpretation of words also takes place. If someone claims that he/she reads the Biblie without interpretation - there is a lie, ignorance or unconciousness involved.
Catholic Church is the owner. If you want to know what is given part about - ask them.
@@neosmoker The only thing the Catholic church owns is their own unbiblical doctrine. I could as well ask a buddhist to interpret the Bible for me.
I was born and raised in a Catholic family. My mom is a devout Catholic, serving the church, doing rosary with those images made of wood or stones. She's also doing procession of the images of Mary, bowing down and touching the image with handkerchief. I grew with all these things that my mom is doing which doesn't really bothers me because I am not a religious person. I would say my faith with the God that we believed in is somewhat 10%. I didn't even know the concept of "God" came from, didn't even know the Bible. But after 43 years of my life, God made me realised that He's doing miracles in my life even without knowing Him well. He always provided an exit to my adulterous situation. (cried too much 😭😭😭) So I started going to the church which is the Catholic church. With a few weeks going every Sunday, I've felt something wrong seeing people kneeling down in front of the image of Mary (a grotto outside of the church). Then I started reading and studying the Bible, of course with the guide of the Holy Spirit. God is gracious with wisdom when you asked of it and everything it make sense to me. God is truly faithful with His promises, He gave me a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 36:26) I am born again in spirit ( John 3:3, 1 Peter 1:23, 2 Corinthians 5:17, John 3:6) He made me realised that from Heaven, He came down on earth to save us, and that is our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (John 14:6, Luke 2:11, 1 Timothy 1:15, Titus 2:13) From 10% to a million percent faith.😊😊😊
Matthew 6:33
Seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness and all this things will be given to you as well
@Charity 2019 thank you sister for the advice, I am currently building my relationship with God through prayers and studying the Bible. What Mr. Mike is saying are all true, all these doctrines of the RCC are not biblical, specially about the salvation, which doesn't aligned with the teaching of the Bible. I believed in the Bible because I know this are the true Words of God. There are lots of deceiver in this world sister, I advice you to study the faith you have now, one advice which the Bible teaches is to look for the fruit of the religious leader. Look how horrible the popes in the history of the Catholic church, you can look up for yourself the history of those popes. God bless you sister, may the grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus bless you with spiritual awakening just like He did to me. Shalom 🙏🙏🙏♥️♥️♥️
@simplelifewithgod3227 Investigate the Bible for yourself through a correct Protestant church because they have bewildering and contradictory interpretations of the Bible. You will need to figure out what is a correct Protestant church. You will soon discover this if you are a serious student of the Bible and serious about your faith. Some that go by the name "full Gospel" might be good. But you might end up investigating numerous churches before you find one you can agree with. The moderator of this Y.T. channel also hates many Protestant denominations. It is a game some Protestants play with each other. So you are advised to search for a more reliable and educated source of info than random Y.T. channels. Reading the Bible on your own can only take you a short distance in understanding. It is advisable to find a loving local church community to support you. May I suggest you be humble in your private search and do not make public assumptions or judgements about the Spirituality of any other person. You know nothing about me or the faith I have now. I am simply trying to point out some facts for your consideration.
Amen. We are to worship no one other than God. Jesus said that no one comes to the Father but through him. (John 14:6) Mary is not the one who is the bridge that can lead us to the Father. Only Jesus can, cause he is the Son of God, and he is God in the flesh.
Praise the Lord!!! I FEEL your joy and love! I was in the same situation, born and raised Catholic, with my dad being heavily involved in the Catholic Church. NEVER had a relationship with Jesus… not till a few months ago when I dropped to my knees and prayed for understanding, the Holy Spirit ENGULFED me with pure love, and I sobbed and sobbed… overwhelmed with emotion. Now, I cannot get enough of the Lord’s love! Reading the Bible every day and looking for a church that follows Jesus and scripture. ❤
@hillaryjordan7158 indeed praise our Lord and Savior Jesus 🙏 ❤️ 🙌
Every Catholic friend I have and have had were very loving conscientious people, given to good works and loving their neighbor. They believed in the Heavenly Father as Creator and acknowledged their sin and the existence of Hell for those who will not be forgiven. They work harder than Mormons and many Christians to serve in their community and all admit, they are only hopeful that they have done enough to be saved. The gospel of Christ frees us from such bondage. Speak the truth in love. Serve out of gratitude for salvation, not to earn it- because we can't.
Jesus started the Catholic church. Catholics still follow that church today.
@John, you are wong
"Bondage" you are misrepresenting the Catholic position
@@HeartNDagger18 No, He isn't.
@@johnyang1420 You're wasting Your time, these are Protestants, They have no loyalty to a Church, They're Mercenary Christians, They'll just show up anywhere there's a Cross on the Door and start praying. As long as it's in the Bible, They could care less about the Heresy that They engage in.
I appreciate this teaching. I'm Baptist, and have a friend who is Roman Catholic. She works for the Arch Diocese. So, I appreciate this insight to the Catholic Church. She has often said that we Christians don't agree on everything, but I contend that I f we say we are Christians, we absolutely have to agree on the very basic principles of the faith.
The guy talking is nothing but a lier
If you find out what the Catholic Church is from a non-Catholic you’ll get a made up Catholic Church that doesn’t exist
@@veritasmuy2407 Christians ultimately conquered Rome. They were persecuted in Rome until Constantine legalized Christianity upon his conversion around 315 AD and built the Vatican for the bishop on Nero’s circus where Peter was executed
@@veritasmuy2407 there’s records from of the bishop of Rome’s succession from Peter to the 4th century. There was no Greece. That region was also part of the Roman Empire. Look at a 1st century Roman Empire map. The area where Greece is today were all pagan. You never heard of the Greek Pagan Gods before? There’s a lot of famous books and archeological sites in Greece today from Pagan worship… The miracle of Fatima is great proof God exists. So many eye witnesses. You can see the photos people watching the sun
@@veritasmuy2407 Purgatory is the Latin word for purification. If you look it up, before Jesus the Jews believed in purification after death. So it’s a continuation of beliefs. If you look up if Jews believe in purification after death today, they still believe in purification after death.
Also, Peter was married wasn’t he?
Catholics claim that he lived like a celibate after he began following Jesus, even though he was still married. Without a shred of evidence, of course.
He was
But most apostles did not, what is your point?
@@kameijohnwilson9208 we don't know exactly if they did not. But the point is that priest should be allowed to marry imo
1. Corinthians 9:5 NIV
Don’t we have the right to take a believing wife along with us, as do the other apostles and the Lord’s brothers and Cephas?
Seems to me is was rather common for the apostles to have wives 💁♂️
It doesn’t say anywhere in the Bible that the Bible is enough, which makes sense as many were unable to read back then and needed to be taught by an authority.
However, it does say, “what you have heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also.”
In “Timothy 3:16-17” it says scripture is profitable (ōphelimos) moving one toward a goal. Many mistake this to mean “sufficient” which it does not.
Mike addressed this same verse in the previous video refuting the authority of Catholic church.
Yes ~ Authority Errors.
USURPED Authority, that is.
Hubris, Hypocrisy, Hostility against
Correction comes from INDOCTRINATION aka
Relentless Repetition ~
“one true holy apostolic church”
Under Papal Rule.
Indoctrination = Mind-control programming.
The only scriptures' at the time were OT
Yes it does. 2 Peter... All we need for Salvation is in Scripture.
@@camillewilliams3185 Mike does not have any authority over scripture or anything else.
My Catholic friends said that they believe that just by being part of catholic church and following teaching of the Pope they will get to heaven. It's so sad because I have many catholic friends who are good people but it makes me sad to see just how deceived they are. But I just keep Praying for them
Bosko ahahah 🤣
Salvation us only through Catholic church, but not everyone Catholic will go to heaven. Being Protestant makes it harder to be saved. There is no salvation outside the Catholic church.
@Bosko, Jesus said to the thief on the cross beside him that for his faith he will now be in heaven with him. Faith in God is what you need to get to heaven, Jesus forgives for our sins, now God has is own ways for he says “my ways are not you way and my thoughts are not your thoughts” so god will judge us individually on the other side.
@Bosko Sawkmie that is exactly what the thief did on the cross. He just accepted Jesus and he went to heaven. What are you not understanding?
@@ssv7195 That was due to the fact that He was actually on the Cross next to Christ. The rest of Us go through His Church, as We lack the direct conduit that the Thief had.
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by GRACE are ye saved through FAITH; and that NOT of yourselves; it is the GIFT of God, NOT WORKS lest any man should boast."
Then there were the sheep in Matt. 25: 31-40, who worked their way into heaven; and they didn't even know Jesus, " When did we feed, clothe, house and comfort you," they ask.
@@AnnTeixeira-v3lMy friend the good things we do like feeding the poor,( won't) remove the fact we guilty sinners that lie,steal, and think dirty thoughts worthy of hell who offended God ,just like in court if we guilty of murder no good deed changes that)** **Romans 5 vs1 says by faith alone we are( justified ) meaning to be legally declared like in court by God not guilty, innocent, and totally pure,and have peace with God through Jesus Christ our Lord, **Because of the blood Jesus the Risen Savior already shead at Calvarys cross 2000 yrs ago (alone) , which( alone) open the door to salvation, forgiveness of sin and dilverance over sin which comes freely by faith) *Believing( isn't) just agreeing with the head,but it's continually freely accepting by faith alone from deep within,what Jesus already did at Calvarys cross ) ******The same way we get saved,it's the same way we stay saved ,are forgiven, stay pure in God's sight,get daily inner change by the Holy spirit and enter heaven instead of hell, by continually believing and freely accepting by faith from deep within what Jesus the Risen Savior already did at Calvarys cross) *While we all stumble ,we cant have a true encounter with jesus and remain the same , because once we place our faith in what He already did at Calvarys cross, the Holy spirit begins to change our evil heart and desires ) Romans 5 vs8 God comendeth his love towards us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us) Salvation is simple Romans 10 vs13 Says whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved) **All it takes to be saved is calling on God from the heart as He deal with us through faith in what Jesus already did at Calvarys cross long ago in repentance ,**admitting our sinfulness to God ,asking him to save us and wash our sins away by the blood Jesus already shead at Calvarys cross 2000 years ago, **freely accepting by faith Jesus and what he did, telling God we believe and accept Jesus His risen Son as Savior and Lord) **Two things about God we must leave our darkness our sinful way and come to light , understanding God has nothing for sale , **Everything from God from A thru z comes only by faith for free through Jesus and Calvary,rather its salvation ,forgiveness ,purity in Gods sight, inner change by the Holy spirit,healing etc,this is because it was at the cross 2000 years ago alone jesus by his precious blood completely paid our sin debt and destroyed sins power over us)
@@AnnTeixeira-v3l These people are not saved because of their actions. Their actions demonstrated the fact that they are saved. Their fruit was an outward expression of their converted hearts. This is the teaching of the entire bible and it's consistent. You need to use the Bible to interpret the bible. You cannot impose on it your own understanding. The Bible is very clear that no one can "work their way into heaven." No one can fulfil the entire law. No one can pay for their sin. Salvation is a free gift from God made possible by Jesus' death and resurrection and given to us through faith. Good works follow faith and conversion.
@@mary_puffin Jesus said YES and St. James agrees in James 2.
@@AnnTeixeira-v3l Please go read it again. The book of James says if you have no deeds, it's proof you have no faith to begin with. It doesn't say that deeds get you into heaven. It emphasizes the point that deeds flow out of faith first. Both go hand in hand.
*NT Church of the BIBLE did not have Roman pontiff neither Roman priests, neither did Apostles pray to passed on saints or Mary, neither did Apostles and Jesus make statues for Mary and saint .. Neither bow down to statues .. Neither ROman unholy water, neither sinless Mary, neither veneration of skulls bones tongues ... So where are all these man made doctrines of ROME in the BIBLE? Neither all the below man made doctrines! Wonder where they come from? Satan?*
Bingo!
Why would there be letters written to everyday people addressing them and telling them about sound doctrine and the nature of salvation only to be told that we can't really interpret it and make any evaluations on what's being said? The core method of how much of the NT is written was in letter form and read aloud for everyone to hear.
I don't know what to do anymore. They're good arguments on both sides protestant and catholic. I want to please God but all of these arguments are just making me more confused. I don't want to go to hell for the reason of me not conforming to the catholic church or something. Help me please
Take a look at those that went to heaven and hell in Matt. 25: 31-46. This is what the Catholic Church teaches; for it is feeding/clothing/housing/comforting the least of these that YOU encounter Christ. Blessings !!!
if you have repented(turned away from sin) and turned to Jesus, then you are saved.
Read the bible, ask God to show you the Truth, His Truth.
I’m right there with you. I’m so confused and it sometimes feels hopeless. However just keep praying God will make it clear to us and I’m sure he will answer. His timing is perfect I hear.
Read your Bible. Study and see if what you here from everyone is in the Bible. Just like the Bereans as Paul mentioned in the Bible, btw complimenting them for checking his preaching
Paul said- study to show thyself approved unto God a workman that needed not to be ashamed, ritely dividing the word of trueth.just read the new testament. Read a catholic bible and will see where they deviate, and pray to the father in jesus's name no other asking for him to open your eye. He loves people to search the scriptures.
The doctrine of the Nicolaitans (clergy ruling over the people) Christ hated. Revelation 2:15
I agree this is a real problem in the church but reading that verse it seems like Jesus was calling out the Nicolaitans for following in the footsteps of Balaam (the etymology is uncertain but both names could have similar meanings. Nicolaus: victory over (or of) the people / Balaam: swallowing up the people) by promoting eating food sacrificed to idols and committing sexual immorality. Or perhaps that similar actions were morally permissible since they were no longer under the Mosaic Law. Am I missing something?
@@ryanburr8419 Balaam taught Balac to put a stumbling block before the children of Israel.
It is impossible but that offences will come, but woe unto him through whom they come.
The deeds of the Nicolaitans became doctrine.
They start by taking away the priesthood of all the saints. Then, they take away direct communication with the Head of the Body, Christ, and interject "intercessors" between Him and the Body. Then they take away the Father and replace Him with men, and finally, they take away the diety of Christ and the Father and substitute their "holy" father,. for the true and only HOLY FATHER, God.
Wickedness!
ArielView ... brainwashed imbecile ... seriously ... no seriously !
@@rickyelvis3215 if by that you mean I'm not in the cult of Catholicism, then thank you.
God delivered me out of that.
Whoa, I didn't expect to find this here. Do you read Nee? Lee? Brethren authors?
@Michael *How do you explain Two third of New Testament that says Salvation is Not By Works"?*
Luke 23:43 - the thief at the Cross believed in Jesus and he was in Paradise thereafter. NOT WORKS! John 1:29 - Christ the Lamb of GOD who takes away the sins of the world ... (NOT OUR WORKS) John 3:16 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Acts 16:30-31 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Rom 4. Vs 1-2 - justified NOT BY WORKS! Vs 3 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 4 - WORKS are debts . Vs 5 - he who DOES NOT WORK is JUSTIFIED . Vs 5 - God justifies the ungodly, Vs 5 - FAITH was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 6 - Blessedness Apart from WORKS! Imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS by FAITH. Vs 8 - imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS apart from WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham was made RIGHTEOUS BY FAITH BEFORE ANY WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham received seal of RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH by imputation. NOT WORKS! Vs 11 - Promise to Abraham was through RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH. Vs 14-15 - Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation. Vs 22 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS . Vs 22 - RIGHTEOUSNESS imputed on those who believed. Not those who WORKS! Rom 11:6 - IF IT IS WORKS, IT’S NO LONGER GRACE . 2 Cor 5:21 - GOD made Jesus who knew no sin to become sin for us, that we might become the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD. Gal 2:16 - not justified by WORKS OF THE LAW, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS. BY WORKS OF THE LAW, NO MAN IS JUSTIFIED! Gal 2:21 - if RIGHTEOUSNESS comes through the law, then Christ died in vain. Gal 3:1-5 - Paul said Christians who started by faith, why end up following WORKS of law (not only Mosaic laws)? Are you made perfect by flesh (WORKS)? Gal 3:1-5 - Did God do miracles by your faith believing or by your WORKS of law? Eph 2:8-9 - saved by grace through faith NOT BY WORKS. Eph 2: 8-9 - salvation is a GIFT. NOT WORKS! 2 Tim 1:9 - saved NOT according to our WORKS. Titus 3:5 - saved NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. 1 Pet 2:24 - Christ (the Lamb of GOD) bore our sins … (NOT OUR WORKS).
I am sure that when God inspired all the authors of the books of the Bible to give us an instruction manual for our faith and daily living, that He also made sure that these books would be the chosen ones, and absolutely for us to abide by. What the Bible says counts. Not popes, or church «fathers» or anybody else. Only by studying the Bible are we able to keep on the right track.
A name change in the Bible = a father/pope/papa..........see Genesis 17: 5, 32: 28 & Matt. 16: 18-19.
Then how do Protestants, Catholics and Orthodox all have different books in their Bibles? Which Bible are we to study? The first Protestant Bible did not exist for more than 1000 years.
@@daddydaycareky 1000 years for the 1st Protestant Bible? Since the Reformation began in 1517 I guess we can look forward to the Protestant Bible in about 2517. There were German, English and French Protestant translations of the Bible as early as 1521 and 1522.
@@miketeixeira7853 God calling Abram Abraham, and Jacob Israel, and Jesus calling Simon Peter haven't the slightest thing to do with calling ANYONE Pope. Please don't make up Scripture sir. I pray you will refrain from this practice as we are commanded not to add to or take away from God's Holy Scriptures.
@@michaelbee2165......Isn't Abram/Abraham the father of the many nations ??? Isn't Jacob/Israel the father of the Israelis ??? Similarly, Jesus chose a father/papa/Pope for His Church/His new peoples/Christians.
Jesus is the Good shepherd.
Amen
Then why are Catholics praying to mary and the pope?
Walter Romanoff prayer has 4 different levels in Catholic Church.
1. Adoration • to God only
2. Contrition • sorry for my sins
3 Thanksgiving • for salvation
4. Supplication • help
Him Bike
That all sounds great
Jesus never taught that
It’s not in the Bible
That dosnt bother you because you have
been indoctrinated by the Catholic Church
Jesus was a Jew
He fulfilled prophecy
He was killed and his followers were Christians
The Catholic Church was formed hundreds of years later
The Catholic Church teaches
Mother goddess worshiping of Mary
Catholic Church teaches you should follow the pope and the Vatican
The Catholic Church teaches prayer to
Mary Fatima Guadeloupe Saints icons statues
Purgatory confession holy water nuns
celibate priests virginity is holy
Jesus taught non of these things
The Bible teaches non of these things
You don’t know the Bible
You have been deceived
You are blind and can’t see spiritually
You have been deceived by Satan
You must search for the truth
You must pray for understanding
You must accept Jesus as your lord and savior
Try other churches
Listen to Billy Gram
Then listen to your Holy Father the Pope
Who will you follow
Look up Spanish Inquisition
Look up selling of Indulgences
Why can’t priests and nuns marry and have families
Catholic Church rules
Nothing to do with Jesus
Jesus died for your sins
He said you must be born again
to go to heaven
A spiritual transformation to understanding a spiritual god
Good luck
Walter Romanoff Jesus was a priest. Jesus was celibate. Paul was a priest. Paul was celibate. Lucky for we Catholics, your opinion is less than worthless.
Drifted away from Catholicism around 2017. Wish I'd had this video then. He's right in saying a lot of Catholics don't know Catholic theology. I didn't, even with 6 years of Catholic education under my belt. Now, Catholicism gave me a great foundation of faith. I was proud to be Catholic. I knew who Jesus was, I loved, trusted, and believed in the Lord. I'd been baptized, but I didn't quite know how to follow Him, and heaven felt like an impossible thing to achieve. Looking back, it was. I'm still learning how to follow, but how incredible it is to know just the true gravity of the freedom that's been given to us through Christ. Romans 5:1-5 was, and is, a revelation for me. Praise the Lord for the journey.
To follow Christ, YOU do as He did........loved as He loved.........even to the Cross. Blessings !!!
Gotta remember christ and anti christ teachings started in Rome. They fooled the world saying "Rome turned to christ." They did it in their own image fooling themselves into thinking it was in the image of Jesus. Jesus was in the temple alot but he was active as well he taught us that we are the 7th temple the heart is the temple of the holy spirit and through christ we receive the holy spirit. However not a justification just an understanding, they can be seen as an example of how not to practice worship. The Bible is the word of God the holy spirit is the spirit of God and our bodies are the temple of God. Pretty straightforward.
No catholic actually knows or has a relationship with the Biblical Jesus Christ, it's that simple. They are accursed and have greater damnation in hell for using Jesus's name and deceiving souls.
@@margaretlobo9466 You're a liar and of you're father the Devil and Satan.
"John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life." Recieving Jesus Christ is by FAITH ALONE in full trust in his death burrial and resurrection. Catholics doctrine of demons teaches we recieve Christ by consuming him like the spiritual zombies you non believers or "Catholics" whichhave an antichrist Spirit& holier-than-thou attitude of religious works, that will never save you or keep you saved.
Repent and believe the Gospel.
@@NJB423 YOU = You're a liar and of you're father the Devil and Satan.
ME = After Jesus' 40 days/nights of fasting - Matthew 4 - Satan mocked Jesus = If you are the Son of God, you should not trouble yourself when you can so easily have all the bread you want, take part in injury-free risks, and have all the power and wealth/prosperity of this world.
Jesus then rebuked Satan who fled away.
For Jesus, the Christian life is one of the Cross - If you wish to be My disciple, deny yourself, carry your Cross daily and follow Me.
Even Paul, true disciple of Christ, boasted of the Cross - Galatians 6:14. Paul also told of his various sufferings, hardships, imprisonment, etc. -2 Corinthians 11:23-29.
Catholics follow Christ in their belief doctrines.
Protestants have listened to Satan and the - easy - life. They have even adopted the Prosperity doctrine. Sadly, they have cancelled the Cross, and universally talk about being Raptured and being - Absent in the flesh, present with the Lord -despite their unconfessed sins and non-reconciliation with those trespassed against.
@AndrewLane-pm2ro *RCs are the result of not reading the Bible. Two third of New Testament says Salvation is Not By Works (Faith Alone Doctrine). RCs say no. Clearly Roman religion is man made.*
Luke 23:43 - the thief at the Cross believed in Jesus and he was in Paradise thereafter. NOT WORKS! John 1:29 - Christ the Lamb of GOD who takes away the sins of the world ... (NOT OUR WORKS) John 3:16 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Acts 16:30-31 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Rom 4. Vs 1-2 - justified NOT BY WORKS! Vs 3 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 4 - WORKS are debts . Vs 5 - he who DOES NOT WORK is JUSTIFIED . Vs 5 - God justifies the ungodly, Vs 5 - FAITH was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 6 - Blessedness Apart from WORKS! Imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS by FAITH. Vs 8 - imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS apart from WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham was made RIGHTEOUS BY FAITH BEFORE ANY WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham received seal of RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH by imputation. NOT WORKS! Vs 11 - Promise to Abraham was through RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH. Vs 14-15 - Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation. Vs 22 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS . Vs 22 - RIGHTEOUSNESS imputed on those who believed. Not those who WORKS! Rom 11:6 - IF IT IS WORKS, IT’S NO LONGER GRACE . 2 Cor 5:21 - GOD made Jesus who knew no sin to become sin for us, that we might become the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD. Gal 2:16 - not justified by WORKS OF THE LAW, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS. BY WORKS OF THE LAW, NO MAN IS JUSTIFIED! Gal 2:21 - if RIGHTEOUSNESS comes through the law, then Christ died in vain. Gal 3:1-5 - Paul said Christians who started by faith, why end up following WORKS of law (not only Mosaic laws)? Are you made perfect by flesh (WORKS)? Gal 3:1-5 - Did God do miracles by your faith believing or by your WORKS of law? Eph 2:8-9 - saved by grace through faith NOT BY WORKS. Eph 2: 8-9 - salvation is a GIFT. NOT WORKS! 2 Tim 1:9 - saved NOT according to our WORKS. Titus 3:5 - saved NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. 1 Pet 2:24 - Christ (the Lamb of GOD) bore our sins … (NOT OUR WORKS).
you said
I went from agnosticism to Protestantism but soon became disillusioned with it. It teaches false doctrines (eg, salvation thru faith alone) and amounts to fake Christianity.
See Luke 19: 9, where Jesus declares ' SALVATION ' to Zaccheus AFTER AFTER AFTER AFTER he gives alms and makes atonement.
@@AnnTeixeira-v3l *That’s Old Covenant intelxeroMikeTexeira. Stop misquoting Scriptures.*
@@jediv9910 Jesus is New Testament.
@@AnnTeixeira-v3l *NT was the transition of Old Covenant to New Covenant. The New Testament only took effect at the death of the Testator - Jesus Christ. That's Restitution of Old Testament. Not Roman pagan Penance. Stop propagating man made doctrine of ROman pagan religion.*
No Mr Winger here are the Bible verses that prove Christ giving Peter authority.
Matthew 16:18 Jesus then continues:
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven.
The word "Peter" in this verse is, in Greek, "petros", while this "rock" is "petra". It is a play on words, but if the original language was Aramaic the word in both cases is simply "kepha". A distinction that petros meant a stone and petra a solid piece of rocky ground is sometimes suggested, but Greek use in antiquity seems to have been less precise.[15]
The word "church" (ekklesia in Greek), as used here, appears in the Gospels only once more, in Matthew 18:17, and refers to the community of believers at the time.[3] The "gates of hell" (of Hades) refers to the underworld, and the abode of the dead, and refers to the powers opposed to God not being able to triumph over the church.[16] The keys of the kingdom of heaven refer to the metaphor of the Kingdom of Heaven being a "place to be entered" as also used in Matthew 23:13, where the entrance to it can be shut.[16]
Peter's authority is further confirmed by: "Whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." As discussed below, various Christian denominations have assigned different interpretations to the authority granted in this passage.
All three of the Synoptic Gospels end the account with Jesus telling the disciples not to reveal that he was the Messiah to anyone. Also it makes so much sense that Christ would leave somebody in charge to interpret the written word that was to come inspired by the holy Spirit. You obtain the Bible through the Catholic Church.if you get 10 people in a room you may get 5-6 or even ten different interpretations of a particular scripture. So it makes perfect sense that Christ would somebody in charge. Everything in Catholicism and I mean everything in the Catholicism is biblical or handed down by tradition. I pray that all Protestants listening to this video well research the early church fathers. If you do it with an open mind you will see the truth and convert to the one true church founded by God.
You really should read more of the bible than just the parts you think back up your deceit.
Ps 18 For who is God save Yahovah? Or who is a Rock save our God?
Peter is not the foundation stone of the Body of Christ, Christ is. He is the rock that followed them in the wilderness.
Peter himself rejected that interpretation.
Just as Balaam taught Balac to put a stumbling block before the children of Israel, the Catholic church has put many stumbling blocks before those who would follow Christ.
Fortunately, we dont have to depend on the leadership of your "church" to understand the scripture anymore.
No support in the bible for Catholic doctrine
@@athonyhiggins3117 the Bible is catholic doctrine
I'm going to re-read the books of Peter today, but you can save me some time in letting me know where Peter says all authority is in him and he is the high priest.
Excuse me, but the catholic church did NOT write the scriptures. They may have compiled them together, but the disciples wrote them.
No such thing as purgatory in the Scripture.
To deny purgatory is to deny Jesus's power/victory over death for their is Rev. 21: 27.
@@AnnTeixeira-v3l Purgatory
The concept of Purgatory does exist in Scripture which is very clear when it says, “But nothing unclean shall enter [heaven]” (Rev. 21:27). Hab. 1:13 says, “You [God]… are of purer eyes than to behold evil and cannot look on wrong…” How many of us will be perfectly sanctified at the time of our deaths? I dare say most of us will be in need of further purification in order to enter the gates of heaven after we die, if, please God, we die in a state of grace. Purgatory can be supported by II Maccabees 12:39-46, we discover Judas Maccabeus and members of his Jewish military forces collecting the bodies of some fallen comrades who had been killed in battle. When they discovered these men were carrying “sacred tokens of the idols of Jamnia, which the law forbids the Jews to wear” (vs. 40), Judas and his companions discerned they had died as a punishment for sin. Therefore, Judas and his men “turned to prayer beseeching that the sin which had been committed might be wholly blotted out… He also took up a collection… and sent it to Jerusalem to provide for a sin offering. In doing this he acted very well and honorably… Therefore he made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin.” This may be why Luther removed Macabees from his bible & was tempted to do the same with the book of James
Luke 12 35-48 servants rewarded/punished in varying ways
1 Jn 5 16-18 refers to deadly & non deadly sin ie mortal & venial. For some Protestants to say that all sin is sin and to not differentiate between mortal sin like adultery and venial sin like stealing a dollar is illogical & a poor understanding
Confession is in the bible Jn 20:23
@@AnnTeixeira-v3l If Jesus has power/victory over death, why would there be anybody inpurgatory in the first place? We're either saved because we accept Christ or damned if we don't.
@@mikebrines5708 ....See Rev. 21: 27 = purification before heaven.
Purgatory was a Jewish belief about the afterlife. It was a belief that excluded Christ and assumed that because they lived in Jerusalem that paradise was guaranteed, after paying for their sins. It was NOT a Christian teaching.
This is great, Mike. I like it when people quit playing nice and take the gloves off with catholicism or any other heresy. Paul didn't pussyfoot around with nonsense - he bluntly exposed and condemned it.
i never use the word pussyfoot but it's funny
Of all the world's religions, Protestantism is the leader by far in proclaiming the love of God to mankind. This is meritorious. However, this is a one-way street, as Protestants stop there and don't consider the necessity of reciprocating or returning that love. That would smack of Works which are unnecessary as they believe that they have already been saved by Grace which is God's Love. As a result Protestantism has been down-graded to just a religious philosophy - a hearer and not doer of the Word thus deceiving themselves - James 1:22. While there is belief in Christ to be sure, there is no substance, no forms of worship and thanksgiving to our God Jesus for His works of creation and redemption
Catholicism, on the other hand, stresses more on our obligation to return God's Love in Works. The Catholic Catechism states that God created us - to know, love and serve - God - in this world and to be happy with Him in the next. That is why Catholics attend Mass which includes Holy Communion - known as Eucharist, which is the Greek word for Thanksgiving - as well as Eucharistic Adorations, Stations of the Cross, Benedictions, etc
John 21:25 states that Jesus did many other things which the written word is incapable of recording. As a result 2 traditions ensued - oral and written - 2 Thess. 2:15 - which are of equal merit. By "Sola Scriptura" Protestants are only receiving part of Divine Truth thus resulting in so many *confused* denominations.
The fact is that the Bible itself declares that it is part of divine truth, not the sum total. Again, the Bible only records Christianity in the 1st Century and we are in the 21st C. Recall that Jesus declared -John 5:17- “My Father never stops working, and so I keep working, too.” For God is a Living God. And the Bible declares that the ( Catholic ) church of the Living God is the Pillar and Bulwark of Truth - 1 Timothy 3:15.
For Jesus, our Living God, appeared to many (Catholic ) saints and urged them to pray for others - Check the internet for the 15 Prayers and Promises made by Jesus to St Brigid of Sweden in the 14th C. The 1st Promise given by Jesus to anybody reciting these prayers continuously for 1 year was the deliverance of 15 Souls from their lineage from Purgatory. By "Sola Scriptura" Protestants are only receiving part of Divine Truth thus resulting in so many denominations. The Catholic Church was founded on Peter's declaration of Jesus' Divinity - Matt. 16:16 and Jesus' promise - Matt 16:17-19- and holds to both traditions. It is the Church of the Living God and the Pillar and Bulwark of Truth - 1 Timothy 3:15Moreover, Jesus guaranteed - Matthew 16:18 - And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my= Church; = and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it
(( Note - The Bible itself declares that the ( Catholic ) church is the Pillar and ground of Truth, against which Hell itself will not prevail ))
Jesus' Sermon on the Mount - one of His loftiest teachings - states
Matt. 7. [21] Not every one that says unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that -- does -- the will of my Father which is in heaven.
From this we recognize that it takes Faith to declare - Lord, Lord - but it is Works - doing - the Father's Will that will take us to Heaven.
That is why Jesus commanded - not suggested - that we carry out and - do - all that He commanded - Matthew 28:19-20 - especially our Love for God and Neighbour, as Jesus commanded - not suggested
What is the purpose of Scripture - that is The Bible ?
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work
Here Paul was declaring that Scripture was God-inspired, profitable for both a belief system as well as an instruction guide so that Christians may be completely and thoroughly equipped for - every - GOOD WORK - 2 Timothy 3:16-17.
Thus Jesus, God and Judge - John 5:22 - and the Catholic Church and the Bible stress on the need for Works. Even the Final Judgement - Matthew 25: 31-46 - confirms that Works of Mercy will save us - For I was hungry, and you gave Me to eat ....etc.... Come, inherit My Father's kingdom.
Because we are responsible for all sins after Baptism, Jesus on the very day of His Resurrection from the dead, breathed His Spirit and - empowered - all the Apostles to forgive - or retain - Sins - John 20:22-23. This breathing was the same as the Breath that gave the life-force to the earth-created Adam - Genesis 2:7. Therefore Catholics confess to their Priests, as Apostles don't live forever. Confession thus restores the Life-Force to souls deadened by sin, especially Deadly ( Mortal ) sins - James 5:16-17. Protestants don't confess and thereby retain their sins.
And because we still retain our Fallen Natures, Jesus has given us His Flesh to eat and Blood to drink as - Real Food and Drink - for Eternal Life - John 6:53-58. After all, we become what we eat and drink. And God wants us to be Spiritual People. Therefore, Paul cautions that we should partake of Holy Communion - worthily - 1 Corinthians 11:27.
Acts 2:42 states that the 1st Christian community - devoted themselves to the teaching of the apostles, to the communal life, to the breaking of bread and to the prayers. Our Catholic Mass has originated from this, with readings from the Bible in place of the - long dead - Apostles' teachings
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The reason why Catholics and Protestants don't agree on Scripture is because Protestants have missed the Gospel message. The 4 books of the Bible, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are titled - The Gospel - according to Matthew / Mark / Luke / John. This was the same Gospel message revealed to Paul by Jesus - Galatians 1:12 - which reflected the Teachings and Doings of Jesus and which Paul - proclaimed verbally - on his missionary journeys. Later on, after Paul had received reports from faithful and trustworthy members, he sent out letters to the churches he had established to commend them or to correct them and even provide more insight and clarification. The Bible titles these letters as - Epistles - to the various churches of Corinth, Philippi, etc. Thus, these Epistles were Paul's means of keeping in touch with, as well as providing a Review/Report of the status of the churches he wrote to and to whom he had previously preached - verbally - the Gospel. Sadly, Protestants have based their - Doctrines - and belief systems on these commentaries and Epistles - instead - of the 4 Gospels which will be the basis of all judgement by Jesus, God and Judge - John 5:22.
The 4 Gospels speak of Tough Love - If you love Me, keep My commandments - and - If you wish to be My disciple, take up your Cross daily, deny yourself and follow Me - and - More - is expected of Christians to whom much has been entrusted - Luke 12:48. , And, Jesus' Parables are often prefaced with - the kingdom of Heaven - or - the Reign of God - and require us to multiply our talents, become more fruitful " soil " as well as become wise virgins carrying oil = which represent " Good Works =, etc Moreover, Jesus declared: “But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.” (Matt. 24:13.) Therefore, Paul and Barnabas encouraged the people to persevere in the Faith with this instruction -We must - endure - many hardships to enter the kingdom of God,” they said.- Acts 14:22.
Let's look at some historical facts. Christ died between 30 and 40 AD. The earliest Gospels, Matthew and Mark, were written after 70 AD. The last book of the Bible, Revelation, was written by John within the last 2 decades of the 1st Century. Pauls' missionary journeys were around 48 to 60 AD. Part of the NT -Muratorian Canon - was probably compiled in 180 AD, whereas the Bible as we know it, was compiled much later. This means that, for the most part of the first 2 to 3 centuries after Christ's Ascension, the Oral Tradition was the guiding force of the early Christians. By "Sola Scriptura" Protestants are only receiving part of Divine Truth. Catholics, on the other hand, hold the whole truth
Moreover, before Guttenberg discovered the Printing Press in the 15th C, the Bible was laboriously copied by hand by Catholic clergy and monks. It wasn't done by the rich who had other preoccupations, nor by the poor who did not possess the learning - nor by Protestants or other non-Catholics. Also, Catholic St. Jerome, who died early in the 5th Century, was the first to translate the then existing Greek and Hebrew versions into Latin - the common language of the day. Thus it was Catholics and Catholicism that produced the Bible
Matthew chapter 4 tells of Jesus' 40 days/nights fasting and Satan's temptation. Satan mocked Jesus : If You are the - Son of God - you don't need to trouble yourself when you could have all the bread to eat, take injury-free risks, and have unlimited power and prosperity. Jesus dismissed Satan. Jesus wanted to show what path Christians must take - If you wish to be My disciples, take up your Cross daily, deny yourself and follow Me.
It is not difficult to see whose voice Protestants have listened to. The recent popular - Prosperity Doctrine - taken up by many denominations is an example.
Lent is the 40 days between Ash Wednesday and Easter Sunday - not counting Sundays - which is set aside by Catholics to observe a heightened period of Prayer, Fasting, Almsgiving and Good Works. And the month of November is set aside for remembering the dead. Moreover, Catholics are required to attend Mass every week-end and urged to confess their sins and receive Holy Communion frequently. There are Catholics who fast once - some even twice - a week on just bread and water. There are those who do various penances and it is not uncommon to see some who walk on their knees at pilgrimage sites like Fatima, Portugal.
@@margaretlobo9466 didn’t read everything you said but you said “sadly, Protestants have based their doctrines and belief systems on these commentaries and Epistles instead of the 4 gospels” the Bible as a whole collection of books is God breathed. I think your argument that beliefs should only come from the 4 gospels is flawed.
If you respond please don’t type too much, keep it short and sweet.
@@undeadborisJesus is the Son of God sent to teach us the Way, Life and Truth to Heaven. He is the Judge assigned by The Father to all judgement - John 5:22. His teachings and actions are contained in the 4 Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. They spell TOUGH LOVE and our - requirement - to observe them in ACTION
--- Love God and Neighbour
----If you wish to be My disciple, deny yourself, take up your Cross daily and follow Me
----If you love Me, you will keep My Commandments.
His parables are prefaced with - the Kingdom of Heaven -or - the Reign of God - and require us to multiply our talents, become more fruitful " soil, " wise virgins carrying oil - etc.
Because we are responsible for all sins after Baptism, Jesus on the very day of His Resurrection from the dead, breathed His Spirit and - empowered - all the Apostles to forgive - or retain - Sins - John 20:22-23. This breathing was the same as the Breath that gave the life-force to the earth-created Adam - Genesis 2:7. Therefore Catholics confess to their Priests, as Apostles don't live forever. Confession thus restores the Life-Force to souls deadened by sin, especially Deadly ( Mortal ) sins - James 5:16-17. Protestants don't confess and thereby retain their sins.
And because we still retain our Fallen Natures, Jesus has given us His Flesh to eat and Blood to drink as - Real Food and Drink - for Eternal Life - John 6:53-58. After all, we become what we eat and drink. And God wants us to be Spiritual People. Therefore, Paul cautions that we should partake of Holy Communion - worthily - 1 Corinthians 11:27.
Protestants ignore Jesus' requirements above. Instead they - mistakenly - believe that Jesus came to earth to die and take away all sins and its guilt association. They believe that God has changed from being a God of Justice and no favouritism has become a God of unconditional Mercy and forgiveness. This is despite the fact that God is called - Father - and most of our sins and trespasses are against others who are also children of this Father ! (( Note - Catholics believe that Jesus came to die and pay the penalty of Adam's sin which closed Heaven's gates and laid - Original - sins on all Adam's descendants - you and me))
Instead of following Jesus' commands in the 4 Gospels they have invested in cherry-picked passages like - Saved by Grace - (Ephesians 2:8-9) and Romans 10:9.
Besides, 2 of Paul's letters have gone missing - see 1 Cor. 5:9 and Col. 4:16
Sadly, Protestants have created doctrines that require no Confession as per Jesus' formula, denial of the - Real Presence - of Jesus in Holy Communion - for Eternal Life, and the need for Good Works despite that the Great Judgement is based on Works - Matthew 25.
By declaring that only Faith is necessary for Salvation, they have effectively cancelled the Cross - the very symbol of Christianity. Yet even Paul, like a faithful Christian, boasted of the Cross -Galatians 6:14,
Obviously there is a hierarchy of Truths - with the Gospels being the highest and the very - Basis - of judgement by Jesus, God and Judge - John 5:22. By ignoring this fact, the question remains - Will Protestants be Raptured ? Will they be Saved ???
@Michael *YOu clearly have no answer. How do you explain Two third of New Testament that says Salvation is Not By Works"?*
Luke 23:43 - the thief at the Cross believed in Jesus and he was in Paradise thereafter. NOT WORKS! John 1:29 - Christ the Lamb of GOD who takes away the sins of the world ... (NOT OUR WORKS) John 3:16 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Acts 16:30-31 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Rom 4. Vs 1-2 - justified NOT BY WORKS! Vs 3 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 4 - WORKS are debts . Vs 5 - he who DOES NOT WORK is JUSTIFIED . Vs 5 - God justifies the ungodly, Vs 5 - FAITH was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 6 - Blessedness Apart from WORKS! Imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS by FAITH. Vs 8 - imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS apart from WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham was made RIGHTEOUS BY FAITH BEFORE ANY WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham received seal of RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH by imputation. NOT WORKS! Vs 11 - Promise to Abraham was through RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH. Vs 14-15 - Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation. Vs 22 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS . Vs 22 - RIGHTEOUSNESS imputed on those who believed. Not those who WORKS! Rom 11:6 - IF IT IS WORKS, IT’S NO LONGER GRACE . 2 Cor 5:21 - GOD made Jesus who knew no sin to become sin for us, that we might become the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD. Gal 2:16 - not justified by WORKS OF THE LAW, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS. BY WORKS OF THE LAW, NO MAN IS JUSTIFIED! Gal 2:21 - if RIGHTEOUSNESS comes through the law, then Christ died in vain. Gal 3:1-5 - Paul said Christians who started by faith, why end up following WORKS of law (not only Mosaic laws)? Are you made perfect by flesh (WORKS)? Gal 3:1-5 - Did God do miracles by your faith believing or by your WORKS of law? Eph 2:8-9 - saved by grace through faith NOT BY WORKS. Eph 2: 8-9 - salvation is a GIFT. NOT WORKS! 2 Tim 1:9 - saved NOT according to our WORKS. Titus 3:5 - saved NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. 1 Pet 2:24 - Christ (the Lamb of GOD) bore our sins … (NOT OUR WORKS).
I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic school, was and alter boy server, at 27 years old I began to read the scriptures and began to see how twisted the Catholic Church really was. It was hard for me to walk sway as I was stuck on the “one true church”, but the more and more I dove into the True Word of God it was clear how much we had been lied to and how much Catholicism contradicted the true word of GOD!!!! It has been over 20 years that I have walked away from the catholic “cult”, and I have shared my experiences with many other Catholics some see the light others are too stuck on traditions. May God open the eyes and heart of those that are being blinded.
Ok so I'm a little late reading these comments as most were written a year ago but here's mine. I am a Christian of no denomination. I love all my brother's and sister's in Christ. I read the Bible and It opened my eyes to the truth. The Holy Spirit came upon me to realise how we are truly saved and who Jesus truly is. My question to Catholics: Are you afraid of the Holy Spirit to help you understand what scripture says? Do you need the Catholic Church to interpret scripture to you?? I struggled to understand some of scripture myself but I did my research, some from Catholics, some from Christians outside of Catholicism. I have to say there are more Godly people who understand scripture outside the Catholic Church then in it. You can see the Holy Spirit is truly inside of them. Again, I ask my Christian brother's and sister's from the Catholic denomination: Are you afraid of the Holy Spirit taking over and opening your eyes to scripture? Or do you need an organisation such as the Catholic Church to explain it to you?? John 3:3 “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” I pray for you. God bless
ByfaithAlone............Jesus said He would build a Church.........an indestructible Church..........His Bride/His Love/His Body.........a great love story..........that He gave His life for........see Ephesians 5: 25-27. So, He was conceived by the Holy Spirit, which puts the Holy Spirit directly in His Church; and the Holy Spirit is the means by which we REMEMBER the things Jesus taught us.........see John 14: 26.
amen
Listen to the hymn "Veni Creator Spiritus" and you'll find out whether catholics are afraid of the Holy Spirit.
@bridgefin *Remain unchallenged: Deut 4 says “Do Not Make statues in the likeness of male or female”. Roman ct makes statues in the likeness of male and female and bow down to all of them. Who is right? Bible or Roman Catholic Ct?*
Nor did God like the golden calf, or the gods in our mirrors.
@@Michael-nb4ng *Why no answer? Deut 4 says “Do Not Make statues in the likeness of male or female”. Roman ct makes statues in the likeness of male and female and bow down to all of them. Who is right? Bible or Roman Catholic Ct?*
@@jediv3381......The Catholic Church is right because Christ came in the form of a baby/boy/and a man and gave them the power to bind and loose in heaven......see Matt. 16: 17-19........not a puff of smoke. He ate/slept/touched lepers/wept/was beaten/spat upon/crown with thorns/and He died in the form of a man. If YOU feel more comfortable seeing Jesus as a Spirit, then so be it.
@Michael-nb4ng *Why no answer? Deut 4 says “Do Not Make statues in the likeness of male or female”. Roman ct makes statues in the likeness of male and female and bow down to all of them. Who is right? Bible or Roman Catholic Ct?*
@Michael-nb4ng *Does God hate idols (graven images/ pesel)? Yes/No?*
*The Hebrew word for graven image, pesel, meant idol.*
@AndrewLane-pm2ro *In the first place, who told you "Salvation not by Works" doctrine is "faith without works"? Faith Alone doctrine comes with Good Works, Eph **2:10**.*
*Faith Alone doctrine:*
*- Eph 2:8-9. Saved Not By WOrks.*
*- Eph **2:10**. Saved to do Good Works. (James 2, 1 Cor 13, Mat 25)*
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James 2:26 says "faith without works is dead"
See Luke 19: 1-9
@@AnnTeixeira-v3l *THat's Old Covenant intelxeroMikeTexeira. Stop misquoting Scriptures.*
The Roman Catholic Church is based on The Magesterium. Scripture and tradition are equally important. Besides the Church decided the Canon of Scripture. Without the church, there would have been no New Testament. How can you attribute to a Book more authority than Jesus and the Apostles.
@kim burley.............Not true. At the front of my Catholic Bible is listed the indulgences I receive for reading 15 mins. per day, also I receive indulgences for saying a prayer to the Holy Spirit before reading the Bible. Go .....figure........
@kim burley........see my answer above.
You do realize that the printing press had not been invented for 1440 years? Each and every Bible had to be copied meticulously BY HAND, which meant that there were relatively very few of them and they were extremely valuable. Not to mention that most people were illiterate, which only began to change within the last 200 years. Giving bibles out to the public would make no sense at all back then.
@@killianmiller6107.........Amen !!! Not to mention the many languages throughout the world.
Mark Cyphus Jesus is the book. He is the word of God. And the rcc did not write or compile anything
And the Pope call himself father of all fathers. God is the only father of all fathers.
That’s not what it means
Where did He say tht?? Any referance?
Then don't call your biological dad with respect, call him by name
🙏thanks pastor Mike for "rightly dividing the Word of Truth" 🙏
@johnsteila6049 *Who says Roman religion can use it's own man made traditions as doctrines? WHEre? Bible clearly condemns that. Col 2:8, Mark 7:8, Mat 15, Mat 23.*
*The only traditions Bible accepts was "traditions of Jesus and APostles, 2 Thes **2:15**"; which 95% of ROman pagan doctrines were not from.*
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You’re already getting it wrong.
The Church teaches that it stands on two pillars, Tradition and Scripture.
Jesus gave Peter the power to ' bind and loose in heaven ' as written in Matt. 19.
@user-fq7cb8de3h *Mat 16 does not say Roman religion inherited the authority of Peter though. Where is your proof for this self claim?*
Really enjoyed watching this , thank you for posting it .
Born-again ex-catholic here.
Trust me, NO point arguing with catholics about this because ALL catholics are born into religious bondage which they do not control just like any other world religion (Muslim, Buddhist, Hinduism).
Salvation takes place when the Holy Spirit wakes you up from among the dead and your dead spiritual eyes have been opened. If you can relate to this, praise God! If you don't, read the conversation between Nicodemus and Jesus. You can be very religious and not be born again.
Ah !!! But the Holy Spirit came to ONE CHURCH.......the Church with Peter, Mary and the apostles......see Acts 1&2.
@@AnnTeixeira-v3l So we are all saved only through the catholic church? sounds like a cult to me.
@@AnnTeixeira-v3l the catholic church is a mix of Italian Roman traditions and the Gospel, it cannot be trusted at all.
@@AnnTeixeira-v3l that's it the Roman Catholic Church 😂... it's just the beginning of THE CHURCH period
@@StraitGateApologetics It is Catholic because Jesus commanded it........see Acts 1: 8. FYI.........Catholic means universal.
I am interested in what Mike says about St. Peter. In the books of Acts it talks about how when something good happened to Cornelius he knelt down and worshipped St. Peter. Peter pulled Cornelius to his feet and said "Stand up you. Do not worship me. I am only a man like you yourself are. Worship your God in Heaven." I am an Anglican Episcopalian and I have read the 39 Articles of the Church of England, and Mike here justifies the substance of the 39 Articles. One more thing. On the subject of the Papal Selection, the Roman Catholic church claims that "God is not elected". God may not be elected but the Pope sure is. Although the Vatican claims that "The Hand of God presides over the conclave to make sure that the right person is elected Pope". However, there is nothing in Biblical scripture that shows that "The Holy Ghost attends meetings, or helps influence their outcomes." In fact in the 39 Articles it is stated that meetings and Church Councils are human contrivances and thus are prone to human faults.
St. Peter was a most humble man; he didn't even want Jesus to wash his feet..........see Luke 5: 8 and John 13: 6.
@Michael *Why? Jesus ministered to the canaanite woman and the samaritan woman at the well. That does not mean His ministry was to the Gentiles first. Jesus was called to the Lost Sheep of israel. Similarly Peter. Bible says Peter had a ministry to the Jews. Not Gentiles. Not Rome, Not R Catholics. You dont read the Bible? So calling Peter pope is ludicrous R Catholic. Pure h - sy.*
Mat 15:24 But He answered and said, "I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
Gal 2:7 📝 But on the contrary, when they saw that the gospel for the uncircumcised had been committed to me, as the gospel for the circumcised was to Peter
Gal 2:8 (for He who worked effectively in Peter for the apostleship to the circumcised also worked effectively in me toward the Gentiles),
Gal 2:9 and when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that had been given to me, they gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised.
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True, Jesus was sent to the Jews; and they missed their visitation...........see Luke 19: 40-44.
@Michael *Thank you for proving my point. Peter was not sent to the Gentiles, Rome included. His ministry was to the Jews. Peter was not any pope of R Church. R Catholics love inventing m m doctrines.*
Gal 2:7 📝 But on the contrary, when they saw that the gospel for the uncircumcised had been committed to me, as the gospel for the circumcised was to Peter
Gal 2:8 (for He who worked effectively in Peter for the apostleship to the circumcised also worked effectively in me toward the Gentiles),
Gal 2:9 and when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that had been given to me, they gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised.
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hi pastor, how about some vids on how you feel about eastern orthodoxy. they are similar to Catholicism, yet somewhat different. both have monasteries. what do you feel about monasteries. I for couple decades felt guilty fer not becoming a monk when I was younger. my physical n mental illnesses seem too much now 4 them to handle. makes me sad. but I am trying to repent from lotsa sins n apologise to Christ. I wish to be a pastor. mch love 4 everyone.
I am obviously not him, but personally I don't think that there is anything wrong with adopting a monastic lifestyle.
However I do think there are problems with both Catholic and Eastern Orthodox.
It seems to me that what you were/are wanting is some kind of lifestyle that helps give you discipline in your relationship with God.
I sympathize, I looked into both Catholic and Orthodox teachings because I wanted to join a monastery, for that reason.
Eventually I realized that it was not necessary to join a Monastic order as all I really had to do was hold myself accountable to God, and if I begin to feel convinced about worldly things all I have to do is give it up.
Before you know it you find yourself living in a progressively more minimalist lifestyle.
@@ericfisher1360being orthodox does not mean you necessarily leave a monastery lifestyle. There are over 220 million eastern orthodox Christians, I doubt they are all in a monastery.
@@RottingFarmsTV I am aware that being neither Eastern Orthodox nor being Roman Catholic requires a monanstic lifestyle, (Most are not Monks or Nuns) however the option of a systemized Monastic life is not an option in Protostant or Evangelical circles.
@@RottingFarmsTV They are, just in a much more traditional one.
Orthodoxy and Catholicism are similar on faith, but different in theology. Much different. Palamism and Hesychasy and the Septuagint Bible are all differences as well as the Pope and the filioque.
At age 13 when I fled the catholic cult. At confession the "priest " had told me ,that if he had a gun right now he would shoot me . I confessed not listening to my mother and kissing the neighbor girl . My age is 72 now and have been born again through our wonderful Savior, Lord Jesus Christ. The catholic "priest "was saved a bullet. I had died with our Lord on Calvary. Love you brother!!!
@Super Genius I disobeyed my mother, I also kissed the neighbor girl . That was what I had confessed to him when I was 13 years old .I turned white from fear and never went back. That was one of the greatest blessings to me, since in my journey, I had born again. Catholicism is a cult . But God could even use that to bring us to Himself ! Thankyou Father !!! Thankyou Lord Jesus!!!
Jesus started Catholic church. Try rcia and come back. God bless you!
So instead of reporting that 1 priest, you left and left Jesus' church.
It's the same as having a bad husband and leave, but leave your children behind....just save yourself. Then say that marriage is bad because you had a bad husband. Don't be proud of escaping, and don't pose as a victim. The victim is the Church, not you, and instead of helping Her , you conveniently left and washed your hands.
@@johnyang1420 and the proof?
@@Shaara1this is the very common problem of the CATs and this is also a reason for me to leave the holey cult of holey sinners and brothel owners...who the hell are you to judge others and their freedom to choose whatever they want? That person or me have never given any agreement to anyone by saying that 'we born cats we die as cats' if so then what's your problem idiot?
Why is it that Protestants removed 6 Books from the Bible??? Who decided that???
Luther, who actually removed 7 books. He also wanted to remove James, Hebrews, Jude, and Revelation from the New Testament but his contemporaries pressured him out of it. Learning about this was one of the straws that broke the camel's back for me.
The Protestant bible was set at Nicea.
*Bible does not teach "infusing of packets of grace at different times to be saved" or "partaking sacraments to be saved". Bible teaches "imputation of righteousness". Righteousness was given at an instant. Not bit by bit.*
2Co 5:21 For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
Romans 4.
Vs 1-2 - justified Not By Works!
Vs 3 - Abraham believed (Faith) and was accounted as Righteousness.
Vs 4 - Works are debts .
Vs 5 - he who Does Not Work is Justified
Vs 5 - God justifies the ungodly,
Vs 5 - Faith was accounted as Righteousness.
Vs 6 - Blessedness Apart from Works! Imputation of Righteousness by Faith.
Vs 8 - imputation of Righteousness apart from Works!
Vs 9-10 - Abraham was made Righteous By Faith before any Works.
Vs 9-10 - Abraham received seal of Righteousness of the Faith by imputation. Not Works!
Vs 11 - Promise to Abraham was through Righteousness Of the Faith.
Vs 14-15 - Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation.
Vs 22 - Abraham believed (Faith) and was accounted as Righteousness .
Vs 22 - Righteousness imputed on those who believed. Not those who works!
Rom 11:6 - If it is works, it's no longer grace
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1)The Catholic Church teaches that you cannot earn your salvation, it is given to you by baptism when the holy spirit infuses in us faith, hope and charity which are necessary for salvation, and for that you only need to be properly predisposed (not to actively resist it) because sacraments work ex opere operato
The Bible proves Peter’s primacy as Pope:
Matthew 16:18-19 - If this passage has
nothing to do with the special commissioning of Peter to be the foundation of
the Church, then what is the purpose of this passage? According to Mike Winger,
this passage is a sheer waste, serving no purpose. The problem is with Winger
and not this passage. This passage tells us that Peter is the rock foundation on
which Jesus as architect will build his Church. Why should Jesus give the keys
of the kingdom to Peter if the latter had no special role in his kingdom? What
does mere common sense say about this passage? Pastor Winger, please tell your
audience about the purpose of this passage.
Luke 22:31-32 - “Simon, Simon, listen!
Satan has demanded to sift all of you like wheat, but I have prayed for you
that your own faith may not fail; and you, when once you have turned back,
strengthen your brothers.” All the apostles are in danger of failing in their faith
(Peter is no exception), but Jesus prays specially for Peter and commissions
him to strengthen the faith of the other apostles and disciples. It is clear
that from among his apostles, Jesus chooses Peter for a special mission and
leadership role.
John 21:15-19 - Whether Jesus was punishing
Peter for having betrayed him three times or whether he was testing his love
for him, what is clear at the end is that Jesus commissions Peter with the authority
and responsibility to shepherd his flock of lambs and sheep. This authority and
responsibility is given only to Peter and not to the other apostles who
according to Winger must be more deserving of such honour because they did not
deny Jesus three times though their running away was not enough to deny him.
The gospel according to Winger is a caricature of the truth.
In Acts 15:6-21, Peter’s role as the head
of the Church is unmistakable. After much debate among the Apostles and elders,
Peter stands up to give his decision. The words “Peter stood up and said to
them” (15:7) indicates his authority in the Church. Only Peter ‘stood up.’ James also exercised
some authority but never equal to Peter. The passage does not say that he too
stood up to speak; he merely replied to the debate and seconded what Peter
said. His role seems to be to implement the final decision taken by Peter in
consultation with the council.
Dear Mike Winger, please read this passage
carefully and see the difference between Peter and other Apostles. Only Peter
stood up to speak.
Acts 20:28 and 1 Peter 5:1-4 : If Peter and Paul did not have special place
and authority in the Church and were equal to other Apostles and elders, why
should they exhort the elders to be good shepherds? It is clear that Peter and
Paul were leaders of the Church. Peter is first among the Apostles because of
his appointment by Jesus to be chief shepherd of his flock. The primacy of
Peter cannot be disputed from the Bible at all.
If Peter was 1st Pope, why then Catholic priests have to follow celibacy?
@@frchristie Celibacy of Catholic priests is not a doctrine of the Church but part of the discipline of priesthood which can be changed if the Pope wants.
@ManAboutTown You are right. The word Pope does not appear in the Bible. The use of this name for Peter is anachronistic. However, the primacy of Peter as head of the Church established by Jesus is very much Biblical. It is the recognition of this primacy that gave rise to the understanding later on that Peter was the first Pope of the Church.
@ManAboutTown I have no academic credentials except being a Catholic who knows the Bible somewhat. Now please tell me your problem with my opinion.
@ManAboutTown I am not surprised that you have no problem with "my opinion." I truly sound like a Protestant with "my opinion," because among most Protestants you don't find anything more than their private opinions which they consider as infallible. For this reason I used a very inappropriate phrase. As a Catholic I don't express my private opinion but the teachings of the Catholic Church. Now what is your take on Peter's primacy as the first head of the Church?
R. Zell
None of those guys you listed mean nothing to me, weather catholic or non catholic. What I DO KNOW, is Christ and him crucified. That means something to me. Not who is or is not a catholic, or a reformer, or a protestant of whatever. I chase after the heart of God and his will, not after any man. None of those men, including a list of Popes from your RCC can bring me salvation. But God through his son has, he is way more important to me, than any person you could ever list.
I don't even know what you are talking about.
@Asaph Vapor I answered everyone of your questions. LOL. You still haven't went to this site to address my answers to your questions.
solasymbolic.wordpress.com/2019/06/14/answering-a-most-vile-anti-catholic-troll/
And again, what is your denomination you coward. Where in scripture does it say Jesus commanded his disciples to be cowards? You are a piece of work or I should say S**t.
@Patrick McCarthy And John Calvin had people burned at the stake. Do you want the atrocities of Protestantism. Because of your ignorance Patrick you will receive from God a slap. But the next time you use this tactic, you will be guilty of hypocrisy.
Luke 12:46 the master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know, and will punish him, and put him with the unfaithful. 47 And that servant who knew his master’s will, but did not make ready or act according to his will, shall receive a severe beating. 48 But he who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, shall receive a light beating. Every one to whom much is given, of him will much be required; and of him to whom men commit much they will demand the more.
Protestants enslaved almost the entire black race in America.
@Patrick McCarthy The Good Thief Fallacy. I suggest you read it again.
The Good Thief Fallacy ~ th-cam.com/video/Jt-YTPSapcE/w-d-xo.html
And the Good Thief was under the Old Covenant.
@Patrick McCarthy I belong to the Church Christ called MY CHURCH. It's found in scripture. Paul, the Apostle wrote a letter to my Church. It's called the Epistle to the Romans.
Again, your non-denominational is a false communion of lost souls. You and them will hear this words on Judgment Day: "I never knew you."
I hear you... Please hear me... The Protestant churches of current day have turned into social clubs, yoga retreats, feel good craft centers...
People are absolutely starving for spiritual support...
For 60 years I went to Protestant churches... I simply said there was no Christians anymore
2 years ago I went to a Catholic church... And I haven't left
I feel I'm being fed spiritually
Through the Catholic Church of TODAY
History aside.... Gee ... A lot of really bad stuff in history... Of every group
There is really a lot of bad stuff happening right now and nobody's doing anything about it
Everybody has an opinion about a little boy who drops an ice cream cone in Somalia....
Rushing in trying to start a GoFundMe for the poor kid
Nevertheless, needy people will sit right in front of you in church and try to talk to you...
You think they're weird so you turn away
You go tell somebody," oh look who tried to talk to me..."
And you don't think this is bad do you.... If it makes you feel uncomfortable in any way you run away
Yes you do
You don't come in and try to help them
You will pray .. maybe 🤔
They look different from you or sound different You run away scared...
So go ahead rip apart what happened a thousand years ago... Ignorant people and ignorant times
Not much different today
You’ve gone to wrong ones. Simply because you found wrong churches doesn’t mean that all Protestant is wrong. This man is not Catholic.. is he doing yoga? No. I go to church of Christ. We do no such thing, we follow all that the Bible authorizes. We do not add or subtract. All you need to do is read the scriptures to find truth. 💕
@@allisontowell2274 you got it all warped! There have been warped theology since the beginning just read the so called church fathers, look at the truth, not the vatican kool-aid but true history of the Roman religion from real beggining to today. False churches exist which is why the Word of GOD was given to us by GOD. Yes, you need to search for a true Bible believing church today especially in liberal left wing states. Calling it quits because you've run into a few bad churches to worst - the Roman religion is your own fault. Satan is powerful & deceiving. GOD'S truth is available to you, you know where it is, turning to a religion of man will all be on you
@AndrewLane-pm2ro *That begs the question. Since when did Jesus or Scriptures ever say "Roman religion = the Universal Church or Church CHrist founded"? Can you prove this self claim of Roman religion before we continue our discussions?*
you said
the Catholic Church
Jesus was born under the Roman rule and conquered it with His Gospel.
@@AnnTeixeira-v3l *That does not prove Roman religion had Primacy. Stop making self claims you cannot prove intelxeroMikeTexeira.*
You say that Hanukkah is not included in the bible but the protestant bible doesn't include all of the books. It leaves out 7 books including 1st and 2nd maccabees, which detail the Maccabean revolt and the origin of Hanukkah. Martin Luther threw out the septuagint because he didn't believe in the historical accuracy of those books, but the discovery of the dead sea scrolls gives us the evidence that those books should be included in the canon.
YES!
If the Catholic Church says 1 and 2 Maccabees, Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Sirach, and Baruch belong in the Bible, then those seven Books belong in the Bible.
@@georgepenton808 The Catholic church is not the final word on what belongs in the Bible.
@@georgepenton808 The apocrypha wasn’t even officially accepted by the catholic church until the 16th century, likely as a response to the reformation. Not only that, but the were not considered canon by the Jews either.
@@melaineeyh Who then?
Blessings to all! Just wanted to clear up some common misconceptions about the Church.
In regards to calling priests, “father”
First, we must remember the context of the passage. Jesus is addressing the hypocrisy of the scribes and the Pharisees - the learned religious leaders of Judaism. Our Lord castigates them for not providing a good example; for creating onerous spiritual burdens for others with their various rules and regulations; for being haughty in exercising their office; and for promoting themselves by looking for places of honor, seeking marks of respect and wearing ostentatious symbols. Basically, the scribes and the Pharisees had forgotten that they were called to serve the Lord and those entrusted to their care with humility and a generous spirit.
Given that context, Jesus says not to call anyone on earth by the title “Rabbi,” “Father,” or “teacher,” in the sense of arrogating to oneself an authority which rests with God and of forgetting the responsibility of the title. No one must ever take the place, or usurp the privileges and respect that belongs to the heavenly Father. As Jesus said, only the heavenly Father is the true Father, and only the Messiah is the true teacher and rabbi. In a similar vein, Jesus said, “Whoever loves father or mother, son or daughter, more than Me is not worthy of Me” (Mt 10:37). Because of the authority of the heavenly Father and the respect due to Him, Jesus freely referred to His heavenly Father as “Father,” and taught us to pray the “Our Father” (Mt 6:9-13).
Moreover, our Lord Himself used the title “father” for several characters in His parables: In the parable of the rich man and the beggar, Lazarus, the rich man, cries out from the depths of Hell, “Father Abraham, have pity on me,” and the usage of the title “father” occurs three times (cf. Lk 16:19-31). One has to wonder: if Jesus prohibited the use of the title “father,” why does He instruct the people with a parable in which the characters use the title? To do so seems to be contradictory and actually misleading to the audience. The same is true in the parable of the Prodigal Son: The young prodigal son, upon his return, says, “Father, I have sinned against God and against you” (cf. Lk 15:11-32). Given the way our Lord used the title “father” in so many teachings, including when repeating the fourth commandment, our Lord did not intend to prohibit calling a father by the title “father”; rather, He prohibited misusing the title.
In regards to calling the pope “holy father”,
Only God is holy by his very essence; however, by a person, place, or thing’s association with God, it too can be called holy. To be called holy is to express the idea of consecration, that someone or something belongs to God. That is why the Bible can call many persons, places, and things holy.
In Genesis 28:16, the place God appears is "holy." In Exodus 19:6, God tells the Israelites through Moses, "and you shall be to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation." God’s dwelling place in the Tabernacle is "holy" (Ex 28:43), as is the city of Jerusalem (Is 48:2). Even a goat, the victim of sacrifice to God, is called "holy" in Leviticus 10:17.
After Christ’s death and resurrection the Christians called themselves and each other "holy ones" or "saints," called by God to be his (Rom 1:7). In 1 Peter 1:16 we read, "it is written, ‘You shall be holy, for I am holy.’"
Since we are his holy people, and his people are the Church, it is fitting that the head of his holy people be called Holy Father-not because of his own merit, but because Christ died for him and for the Church that he leads on earth.
“Catholics worship statues!" People still make this ridiculous claim. Because Catholics have statues in their churches, goes the accusation, they are violating God’s commandment: "You shall not make for yourself a graven image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: you shall not bow down to them or serve them" (Ex. 20:4-5); "Alas, this people have sinned a great sin; they have made for themselves gods of gold" (Ex. 32:31).
It is right to warn people against the sin of idolatry when they are committing it. But calling Catholics idolaters because they have images of Christ and the saints is based on misunderstanding or ignorance of what the Bible says about the purpose and uses (both good and bad) of statues. Anti-Catholic writer Loraine Boettner, in his book Roman Catholicism, makes the blanket statement, "God has forbidden the use of images in worship" (281). Yet if people were to "search the scriptures" (cf. John 5:39), they would find the opposite is true. God forbade the worship of statues, but he did not forbid the religious use of statues. Instead, he actually commanded their use in religious contexts!
God Said To Make Them
People who oppose religious statuary forget about the many passages where the Lord commands the making of statues. For example: "And you shall make two cherubim of gold [i.e., two gold statues of angels]; of hammered work shall you make them, on the two ends of the mercy seat. Make one cherub on the one end, and one cherub on the other end; of one piece of the mercy seat shall you make the cherubim on its two ends. The cherubim shall spread out their wings above, overshadowing the mercy seat with their wings, their faces one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubim be" (Ex. 25:18-20). David gave Solomon the plan "for the altar of incense made of refined gold, and its weight; also his plan for the golden chariot of the cherubim that spread their wings and covered the ark of the covenant of the Lord. All this he made clear by the writing of the hand of the Lord concerning it all, all the work to be done according to the plan" (1 Chr. 28:18-19). David’s plan for the temple, which the biblical author tells us was "by the writing of the hand of the Lord concerning it all," included statues of angels. Similarly Ezekiel 41:17-18 describes graven (carved) images in the idealized temple he was shown in a vision, for he writes, "On the walls round about in the inner room and [on] the nave were carved likenesses of cherubim."
The Religious Uses of Images
During a plague of serpents sent to punish the Israelites during the exodus, God told Moses to "make [a statue of] a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and every one who is bitten, when he sees it shall live. So Moses made a bronze serpent, and set it on a pole; and if a serpent bit any man, he would look at the bronze serpent and live" (Num. 21:8-9). One had to look at the bronze statue of the serpent to be healed, which shows that statues could be used ritually, not merely as religious decorations. Catholics use statues, paintings, and other artistic devices to recall the person or thing depicted. Just as it helps to remember one’s mother by looking at her photograph, so it helps to recall the example of the saints by looking at pictures of them. Catholics also use statues as teaching tools. In the early Church they were especially useful for the instruction of the illiterate. Many Protestants have pictures of Jesus and other Bible pictures in Sunday school for teaching children. Catholics also use statues to commemorate certain people and events, much as Protestant churches have three-dimensional nativity scenes at Christmas. If one measured Protestants by the same rule, then by using these "graven" images, they would be practicing the "idolatry" of which they accuse Catholics. But there’s no idolatry going on in these situations. God forbids the worship of images as gods, but he doesn’t ban the making of images. If he had, religious movies, videos, photographs, paintings, and all similar things would be banned. But, as the case of the bronze serpent shows, God does not even forbid the ritual use of religious images. It is when people begin to adore a statue as a god that the Lord becomes angry. Thus when people did start to worship the bronze serpent as a snake-god (whom they named "Nehushtan"), the righteous king Hezekiah had it destroyed (2 Kgs. 18:4).
@Asaph Vapor Catholics venerate their statues but do not worship them. And if "call no man father" were to be taken literally we could not even call dear old Dad "Father".
I love seeing empty crosses, Jesus defeated sin, Jesus defeated the devil, Jesus has RISEN.
1 Corinthians 1: 22 Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,
The reason we have have Christ on the cross is because 100% of humanity can relate to suffering. That is why we must pick up our cross daily.
Yes he is risen but that is something to look forward to.
Let this not be a stumbling block to you.
@@onesneak7668 Christ did bear the weight of all of our sin on that cross, but we do not suffer at all like He did. We don’t relate to Him-the one who took our real punishment-He related to us and then took the brunt of God’s wrath so we don’t have to.
I think keeping a physical image of Christ on a cross is not necessary, but it also preaches only half the message and then gets people confused into believing that we are like Jesus or that we can do what Jesus did in regards to truly suffering for our own sins when we really won’t (unless, of course, we choose to take God’s wrath-and some will).
@@judgedredd31 we do relate to suffering,death and asking God why he has forsaken us. Mankind does every day. Just read the Psalms.
Paul say's that we "proclaim his death" until he comes also his resurrection. That's why we say to others " do u not know that Christ has died for you".
Of course there is more to the story. I was just pulling out the fact that Paul said we proclaim Christ crucified.
I've never met anybody that thinks that we can suffer like him. And to say that is ridiculous. Of course we cannot ( regarding taking on the sins of the world).
You're mistaken by saying we can only experience his suffering if we go to hell. He suffered in victoriously going to hell is the opposite. A suffering he wouldn't endure can't endure.
@@onesneak7668 "we do relate to suffering, death and asking God why he has forsaken us. Mankind does every day. Just read the Psalms." First, I think we tread dangerously to say we are like Jesus. Yes, we are called to be like Jesus/Christ-like, but we know full well we don't make ourselves perfect, we merely put on the righteousness of Christ. If anything--as I said before--Christ humbles himself to become like us. So it can be somewhat ill-stated still to say we are like him. We are told to pick up OUR cross (our own suffering) and follow him. Of course we can not pick up HIS cross as His suffering cannot be endured.
Are you saying he wouldn't/couldn't endure hell? You think the flames of hell could singe Jesus?
@Michael *Why do you keep L all days? Acts 1:13 did not say they have other parents. Which part says so?*
Act 1:13 And when they had entered, they went up into the upper room where they were staying: Peter, James, John, and Andrew; Philip and Thomas; Bartholomew and Matthew; James the son of Alphaeus and Simon the Zealot; and Judas the son of James.
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I did say these ' siblings ' had other parents.......moms and dads; see Acts 1: 13.
Why don't you have debate or discussion with Trent? You can't just say your wrong without letting the other side giving their reasons. You have to go and reach out to them, most of your audience are already convince to what you are saying here. Irenaeus debated all he thought that are heresies. Do you really believe in what you are claiming?
What do you mean he listened what you have to say by doing research
READ your Bible and know the Word of God is Spirit filled, alive and active. I too was Catholic for 50 years. God touched my body and healed me thru GOD TV. in 2004. January....
The leading of the Holy Spirit led me to all TRUTHS and the SON set me free indeed...
I am a BORN AGAIN and blessed to e a blessing!! AMEN.
The Bible is 100% alive 😌
@@monafernandez4389Who told you what the bible is? Catholic church did in 4th century
@@johnyang1420 NO WAY....THE BIBLE IS GOD BREATHED!!
Though the Catholic church found the scriptures, they never wanted to spread the WORD OF GOD. Many men of God were killed for translations of the Bible like William Tindale ..... even today I can assure you that very few Catholics read or understand the Bible. Only the Spirit of God can help us desire and understand God's Holy Word. They need to be Born Again to receive the Holy Spirit. Guess you too are unaware of what is written in the Bible. Had you known; you would appreciate this TRUTH.
“But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.”
Galatians 2:11
Seems odd that “the Pope” aka the “ultimate authority” of “the church” would need to be rebuked by Paul. 🤦♂️
Peter was also rebuked by Jesus......see Matt. 16: 22-23. See, Peter is infallible when he speaks/acts on his own thoughts, but when he speaks God's words/thoughts = infallible.......see Matt. 16: 16-17.
Holy Father GOD in heaven GAVE the correct words TO Simon Peter.
“You are the Christ; the Son of the living God.”
Those words; that declaration of Who Christ IS is the Foundation of Believers.
NO Man or Woman is “infallible” !
HUBRIS to select & use that word is blasphemous Usurping of GOD.
Even if you argued that Peter was appointed leader of the apostles, it has no bearing on future generations. Just as there stopped being apostles, one would expect there to stop being a leader of them.
Absolutely right. It never says anywhere that the keys to the Kingdom were passed on. They rely on Sacred Tradition to say that it was, which can't be proved outside of having faith in Sacred Tradition. The Bible, and Christ are sufficient.
@@luminous_1 Tradition has been the building block of human sociology for over 25,000 years and orally passed on up unto the printing press in the 1500's.
Even the American Indians have oral traditions historically practiced today passed down for thousands of years.
Absolutely reasonable to accept Tradition and as a reliable practice for the early Church, how else was the Gospel spread? And it was the same (Sacred) Tradition that finally complied the New Testament books modern day and early Christian rely on as Canonical. The Bible didn't fall out of the sky and deemed sufficient. It was the Church that assembled those books.
@Michael *Why still no answer Roman ct member? How do you explain Two third of New Testament that says Salvation is Not By Works"?*
Luke 23:43 - the thief at the Cross believed in Jesus and he was in Paradise thereafter. NOT WORKS! John 1:29 - Christ the Lamb of GOD who takes away the sins of the world ... (NOT OUR WORKS) John 3:16 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Acts 16:30-31 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Rom 4. Vs 1-2 - justified NOT BY WORKS! Vs 3 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 4 - WORKS are debts . Vs 5 - he who DOES NOT WORK is JUSTIFIED . Vs 5 - God justifies the ungodly, Vs 5 - FAITH was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 6 - Blessedness Apart from WORKS! Imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS by FAITH. Vs 8 - imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS apart from WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham was made RIGHTEOUS BY FAITH BEFORE ANY WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham received seal of RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH by imputation. NOT WORKS! Vs 11 - Promise to Abraham was through RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH. Vs 14-15 - Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation. Vs 22 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS . Vs 22 - RIGHTEOUSNESS imputed on those who believed. Not those who WORKS! Rom 11:6 - IF IT IS WORKS, IT’S NO LONGER GRACE . 2 Cor 5:21 - GOD made Jesus who knew no sin to become sin for us, that we might become the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD. Gal 2:16 - not justified by WORKS OF THE LAW, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS. BY WORKS OF THE LAW, NO MAN IS JUSTIFIED! Gal 2:21 - if RIGHTEOUSNESS comes through the law, then Christ died in vain. Gal 3:1-5 - Paul said Christians who started by faith, why end up following WORKS of law (not only Mosaic laws)? Are you made perfect by flesh (WORKS)? Gal 3:1-5 - Did God do miracles by your faith believing or by your WORKS of law? Eph 2:8-9 - saved by grace through faith NOT BY WORKS. Eph 2: 8-9 - salvation is a GIFT. NOT WORKS! 2 Tim 1:9 - saved NOT according to our WORKS. Titus 3:5 - saved NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. 1 Pet 2:24 - Christ (the Lamb of GOD) bore our sins … (NOT OUR WORKS).
Works of the law e.g. kosher/blood/cleansing are different from works of love/charity as Jesus demonstrated in the parable of the Good Samaritan.......purification law versus charity.
@@Michael-nb4ng *Wrong. Apostle Paul did not say its only WORKS OF THE LAW. He included ALL FORMS OF WORKS. SALVATION IS NOT BY ALL FORMS OF WORKS.*
*NOT GOOD WORKS*
2Ti 1:9 who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began,
Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
Eph 2:9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.
*NOT WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS*
Tit 3:5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit,
*NOT WORKS OF THE LAW*
Gal 2:16 knowing that a man is not [i]justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.
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Works of the law e.g. kosher/blood/cleansing are different from works of love/charity as Jesus demonstrated in the parable of the Good Samaritan.......purification law versus charity.
@Michael *Why still no answer Roman ct member? How do you explain Two third of New Testament that says Salvation is Not By Works"?*
Luke 23:43 - the thief at the Cross believed in Jesus and he was in Paradise thereafter. NOT WORKS! John 1:29 - Christ the Lamb of GOD who takes away the sins of the world ... (NOT OUR WORKS) John 3:16 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Acts 16:30-31 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Rom 4. Vs 1-2 - justified NOT BY WORKS! Vs 3 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 4 - WORKS are debts . Vs 5 - he who DOES NOT WORK is JUSTIFIED . Vs 5 - God justifies the ungodly, Vs 5 - FAITH was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 6 - Blessedness Apart from WORKS! Imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS by FAITH. Vs 8 - imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS apart from WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham was made RIGHTEOUS BY FAITH BEFORE ANY WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham received seal of RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH by imputation. NOT WORKS! Vs 11 - Promise to Abraham was through RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH. Vs 14-15 - Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation. Vs 22 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS . Vs 22 - RIGHTEOUSNESS imputed on those who believed. Not those who WORKS! Rom 11:6 - IF IT IS WORKS, IT’S NO LONGER GRACE . 2 Cor 5:21 - GOD made Jesus who knew no sin to become sin for us, that we might become the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD. Gal 2:16 - not justified by WORKS OF THE LAW, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS. BY WORKS OF THE LAW, NO MAN IS JUSTIFIED! Gal 2:21 - if RIGHTEOUSNESS comes through the law, then Christ died in vain. Gal 3:1-5 - Paul said Christians who started by faith, why end up following WORKS of law (not only Mosaic laws)? Are you made perfect by flesh (WORKS)? Gal 3:1-5 - Did God do miracles by your faith believing or by your WORKS of law? Eph 2:8-9 - saved by grace through faith NOT BY WORKS. Eph 2: 8-9 - salvation is a GIFT. NOT WORKS! 2 Tim 1:9 - saved NOT according to our WORKS. Titus 3:5 - saved NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. 1 Pet 2:24 - Christ (the Lamb of GOD) bore our sins … (NOT OUR WORKS).
@@Michael-nb4ng *Admit your errors kitty. Your twisting of Scriptures ends here.*
@Michael *Stop misquoting Scriptures you fool. Luke 10 did not say "works saved the good samaritan" does it?*
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Jesus told the parable of the Good Samaritan that demonstrates the ' works ' of the Law versus the ' works ' of charity. Read it in Luke Luke 10:29-37.
The moment i was born again in Spirit, i started to see things which millions of roman catholic people cannot see (my heart breaks for them), specifically the wrong teachings of the church. And this is something that i am very happy to testify in behalf of Christ, that no man has ever told me these things prior to my conversion in Spirit but only God himself did this incredible redemption in my life. How it happened? Well, i had a great encounter with the Lord Jesus Christ himself 3 times! All glory to God! I onced was lost, but now am found. I was blinded, but now i see! Praise God and to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! I'm still a Roman Catholic up to now, and still waiting some confirmation from the Holy Spirit on which church should i go to worship God, or should i just stay in the catholic church. It's all up to God. But what God put inside my mind and inside my heart is something that NO ONE can ever take it away from me, not even some of the false teachings of the historical catholic church leaders. And i am confident, that God will never let anybody snatch me from Him! Not even satan.
Oh Lord, may your will be done here on earth as it is in heaven! All glory and honour and power are yours now and forever! In Jesus name, Amen!
@ZhanikaTin Delos Reyes: What are the "millions of things which Roman Catholic people cannot see" and you can? What are the wrong teachings of the Church?
ZhanikaTin
Pride and arrogance drip from your post. I am not sure what spirit you encountered but I have my suspicions.
@@bridgefin May the peace and grace of God be unto the both you. If i offended you with my testimony of my 3 great encounters with Christ and how He changed my life concerning the things of God, forgive me, i didn't meant anything by that, but by just trying to tell everyone here how God himself opened my eyes from the false teachings of the church. And with your words also saying that pride and arrogance has in my comment, i forgive you and may the Lord also forgive you.
Exodus 20:4 (idolatry is everywhere)
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Hebrews 9:27 (there is no purgatory)
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Romans 16:17-18
Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
May God Bless us all! 😇
@@Pinkamena3872
You said: i started to see things which millions of roman catholic people cannot see (my heart breaks for them), specifically the wrong teachings of the church.
Me: Well, that sounds like Gnosticism to me. You see what billions can't see. That's arrogance. And if the church is teaching false doctrines then Jesus is a liar and the Holy Spirit is ineffective and that is blasphemy. I don't know how you tested the spirit you encountered but I think he visited a garden once under the guise of a serpent. Jesus does not contradict himself and your arrogance is the first sign of your deception.
You: i forgive you and may the Lord also forgive you.
Me: I need no forgiveness for trying to pull a soul out of deception leading to Hell.
And just a hint. Catholics accept and preach all of the bible. You can't quote a verse and expect that we will see what you are trying to say. I love all of what Moses and Paul wrote.
@@bridgefin May the peace and grace of God be unto you.
Me : If i offended you with my testimony of my 3 great encounters with Jesus Christ, forgive me. And by saying that arrogance and pride has in my comment, i forgive you.
You : I don't need your forgiveness (etc)
Me : Now look whose being so prideful and arrogant right now.
You : Catholics ACCEPTS and preach all of the bible, REALLY?
Me : Well sinced i am raised in a Roman Catholic community and i am also a Roman Catholic, i am only sure about what i see inside the church vs. what i read in the bible more than what you say.
1 Corinthians 2:12-14
What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.
May God Bless us all,
Yes i completely agree, I went to catholic school in High school and i can compoeltely attest to this. catholics think they are on authority as to what is to teach about God. And they even try to prove the authority of their religion by referencing the Bible, which as a young kid, not knowing much and your enture family being catholics since its the norm for my entire hometown, i just believed evrything
However, let us ask ourselves why the early Christian Church found it imperative for missionaries like Paul quite often to be summoned in Jerusalem to be head by the elders under Apostle James! What was this if not leadership Hierarchy ? Again why was there a Moses, Chief Priests etc if not to lay emphasis on hierarchical leadership in the Church ? Dear Sirs, Satan is at work dividing the people of God in order to reign over them when they no longer hearken to the admonitions in Exodus 22 : 28.
@Michael *Wrong. Bible says KINGDOM OF GOD would consume all KINGDOMS. You said only Rome. So you are b washed. You lack knowledge.*
Dan 2:44 And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.
you said
..Jesus was prophesied to come and conquer Rome in Daniel 2: 34-45; not Babylon/not Medes/not Persia/not Greece.
When you said the the Catholic church "assumes" total responsibility as the source of interpretation of all truth, I'm reminded of this verse: "No more shall each man teach his neighbor or his brother saying, 'Know the Lord', for THEY ALL SHALL KNOW ME, from the least of them to the greatest of them..." Jeremiah 31:34 and Hebrews 8:11.
Catholic believe that too! Jesus started the Catholic church.
@@johnyang1420 if Jesus started the Catholic Church, and there's absolutely no evidence of this only the absolute INSISTENCE of Catholics that this is true, then why did they stray so far from Him?
@@sunshinegirl1967 How have Catholics strayed far from Him?
@@catholicdoctrine by praying to mary? As just one example
@@cptarchangel257 Have you prayed for anyone or asked anyone to pray for you?
I think Jesus needs to come back and explain everything again so we can all get a do over. 🤦🏼♀️ The more I research religion, the more I realize no one can agree on anything or really knows what’s going on and they just make stuff up as they go along and say God spoke to them. I’m like ugh okay then God must be speaking to a lot of people and telling them a bunch or different things.
Investigate Catholicism, the original Christianity, and you will find the certainties you so rightly seek.
The problem is religion. Jesus was not religious.
It's about our relationship with Him.
If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in your heart that He was raised from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9
Jesus the Christ paid our debt (for sin) in full. We just have to believe in Him and what He did for us.
God the Father, saw the travail of His soul and was satisfied, the debt was paid in full.
God raised up Christ from the dead seated Him at His right hand, gave Him a name above all names.
The question still remains "Whom do you say that I am?"
I'm coming around to the idea that God does have uses for different views. I've heard monks talk about how God called them to their ministry, and I can't deny how genuinely they believed that. Although I believe that I believe the truth, by and large, I think there is also truth to be found elsewhere.
@@Draezeth Jesus said he is the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the father but by him.
That doesn't leave room for other belief systems. I'm sure God uses good and evil acts for his plan, but that doesn't mean they're saved. I believe people really do have spiritual experiences, but if it contradicts Jesus/God then it is not of God. People deceive themselves, are easily deceived by false teachers, and demons deceive as well. Narrow is the way to God, broad is the way of man.
@@adamrichardson5224 Sorry, I meant specifically within Christianity.
born into a Catholic family, I had to endure it for almost 18 years of age. I am glad to have watched this, and it makes sense, look at the ones that are going to that brick and mortar every Sunday, for "church", they don't act Christ like at all. when I left I almost went atheist, but going out in nature, I knew there was a creator. now at 29 I am an ordained minister, trying to help people live the life, Christ wanted us too. why can't we live in peace and love for each other?! Great presentation my friend, keep up the good work. peace and love
Hey Mr Ovich
peace be with you
It is a shame you spent 18 years and did not come out which an understading of Gods true Church.
It sound like you think Catholics believe the Church is the buildings
We do not.
It is its people those who agree to follow the doctrines of Christ his appostles and their successors,
The Catholic Church is the Pillar of Truth (1 Tim 3:15)
Jesus created only one Church and appointed only one Steward. (Matt 16:15-19)
He gave them authority (Matt 18:15-20)
He sent them the Holy Spirit as a teacher (John 16:12-13)
He prayed they would always be one (John 17:20-23)
And told they he would always be with him (Matt 28:18-20)
It is good that you try and help people
but it is not helpful for them to be turned away from a true understanding of Christ in his Church.
God bless syou
tim spangler
Hey Tim
Christ be with you
If you have a problem with the verse
I gave you let me know.
Here is another couple.
The Holy Spirit is sent to those who obey. (Acts 5:32)
Here’s what Jesus command us (Matt 28:18-20)
When you are ready yo obey him you to can receive the Holy Spirit.
God bless you
+MrKev1664 How can one say, that I am doing bad, by turning people away from a "church" that doesn't teach? If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person? Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth.
- 1 John 3:17
If you,Catholics, have all these nice gold buildings and cups and robes and cars and houses, but not want to step away and help the ones in need, because, they are baptized or Catholic, is probably the worst things humans can do. Don't try and hide behind scripture, when all Catholics do, is lie and steal, stack money and live in nice houses and drive nice big cars, and go to special Catholic retreats and never help the people. Peace and love to all, not selection of special people. Don't get me started on false idolatry, Mary and the saints. I will wall the land and help the ones in need, sharing knowledge truth and love to all.
+MrKev1664 by following Jesus' doctrine apostles and their successors, you are living in the way the ones in power want you to be, controlled and oppressed. if you really want to be happy and find Jesus, look for Jesus, and well live by the way, Jesus lived, not his successors. Your answers are the confusing type, like a Catholic would reply, confused in the language of tongues, spoken by the devil to confuse" Catholicism, is to control and confuse thy people, when not only just my case of being somewhere for many years and walking away from the cult like, what the, did they really try teaching me that, or better yet, did they try and create a toll for me to go from earth to heaven? lies and deception on many planes coming from that type of group. stay true and stay blessed I will always educate the youth, letting them only know the truth. The massive children pedophilia's your church hides is disgusting and I hope you are not one of them.
Hey Mr Ovich,
Peace of Christ be with you
How can one say, that I am doing bad, by turning people away from a "church" that doesn't teach? (1 John 3:17)
Response
the Catholic church does teach this.
You say
If you,Catholics, have all these nice gold buildings and cups and robes and cars and houses, but not want to step away and help the ones in need, because, they are baptized or Catholic, is probably the worst things humans can do.
Response
The Church operates more than 140,000 schools, 10,000 orphanages, 5,000 hospitals and some 16,000 other health clinics. Caritas, the umbrella organisation for Catholic aid agencies, estimates that spending by its affiliates totals between £2 billion and £4 billion, making it one of the biggest aid agencies in the world.
Caritas does not include development spending by a host of religious orders and other Catholic charities, while most of the 200,000 Catholic parishes around the world operate their own small-scale charitable projects which are never picked up in official figures. Establishing like-for-like comparisons is hard, but there can be little doubt that in pretty much every field of social action, from education to health to social care, the Church is the largest and most significant non-state organisation in the world.
As I said you never learnt very much about the Church before you left it.
You show a lack of understanding around idolatry.
As I said it a shame you did not come to an understanding of Gods true Church
God bless you
@johnsteila6049 *Who says "Roman religion = the Church or Universal Church"? Self claims?*
you said
Why do you think that you have the right to judge The Church?
i grew up around the catholic church and regularly attended mass and went through all the requirements. the truth is, i don’t think i ever picked up a bible until i left catholicism. i was just taught in high school theology classes about the bishops and Church leadership claiming they are “infallible.” as we can see historically, it is not within human capability to be infallible. there is evil in the world, and whenever you put someone like the pope, in such a high position of power and leadership, you end up with the possibility of fallacy. i go to a catholic high school. i learned all about the saints and the virgin mary, and it never made sense to me why we pray to these people. i didn’t discover truth by going to confession. i didn’t discover truth by learning about apparitions of mary. i am not criticizing any catholics whatsoever, but i firmly believe that only through a real relationship with Christ can we be saved. i began attending a local community church. it was when i started attending that church and when i bought a bible where I truly found Christ and was saved. in order to save the world from all of the evil and hatred, we must rally around the only thing that will not change, and that is God’s word. a great example of the Church’s leadership trying to judge people is through the canonization process. they go through this long process analyzing their life, and then if they pass the test, which is kind of rare, they’re a saint. The only thing that matters is judgement before God. we pray to these saints, but only because a committee of leadership approved it. if we apply the same thing to other people who were perfect and did everything the saints did, except they weren’t canonized, what’s the difference? the natural tendency of the human heart is to sin. let’s stick to God’s word which is truly infallible, and not a “magisterium” that has historically taken advantage of people, persecuted their own people, and deceived people by the whole selling indulgences for purgatory thing. these men are holding themselves to such a high standard. they’re unable to get married for a completely outdated reason that isn’t at all relevant anymore. Christ is the only person who spoke the truth, was the truth, and will forever be the truth. catholic tradition and going through the motions do not truly save you.
You say a amazing statement: "i don’t think i ever picked up a bible until i left catholicism".
Who forbade you to read the Bible?
In each Mass there are daily two readings, one Old Testament another New testament each year 2*365=730.
At least 730 Bible readings along catholic daily Eucharist or Thanksgiving or Mass, each year.
prayforyourenemies FSHG i didn’t actually read it alone for myself in context
Quinn, if I wasn’t alone in my car; I’d cheer aloud just reading this. God continue to bless you, and the lives of those around you as they take your powerful testimony to heart.
@@prayforyourenemiesfshg2588 catholics never read the bibele and discern the contect for themselves. Its common knowledge just like Islam and Madrasa.
QUINN: Agreed.
Former Catholics, like me, all have similar experiences.
If we ALL read scripture, took off our denomination hats, put aside "tribal," loyalty, there would be far more Christian unity than we see now.
God would smile.
Pastor Winger, you seem incredibly confused about Catholic doctrine. I would recommend expressing your concerns about the Catholic faith with Catholics first, to make sure your arguments at least are sound - this kind of presentation may sound impressive to your followers, but no educated Catholic is going to take anything you’ve said here very seriously. Most of your attacks against the faith are against caricatures of us that don’t actually exist, and pretty much all the rest rely on historical errors or simple differences in Biblical interpretation.
I’m open to being corrected. May I ask for your best example of a caricature that I have made? Not a trivial issue but a significant misrepresentation of Catholicism which causes my argument to fail?
@@MikeWinger
You should know this account 'john lawless' is also known on this video reply section as
Paul V
faithhopegrace
summer sunday
sam bakos
and MORE!!!!
This sicko is one of your fellow youtube posters, his first name is Bryan. If you want to know exactly who this twisted weirdo is, let me know.
@@onemarktwoyou LOL ........ I'm not John Lawless, FaithHopeGrace, summer sunday, sam bakos or anybody else. wasn't p-kicker patty your mortal enemy ? who is Bryan ?
John Lawless ........... based on my extensive research Mike seems spot on to me. this is a very common rc complaint but you rc never give a clear example of where we are misrepresenting rcc teaching.
Paul V Lets dialogue then. Let me explain how a fruitful discussion will work. Here’s what Pastor Winger is doing: accusing and making random assertions about what he THINKS Catholics believe, then starting a conversation with us on the defensive. This means we never actually discuss anything clearly. It’s like investigating a murder and starting with accusing a random person, and then forcing them to show you where your accusation is wrong. It’s not a good way to come to understanding. Those things begin with investigation. Why don’t we try instead having a dialogue from the ground up? Let me know if you would like, maybe we can start an email correspondence. Tell me a doctrine of ours that confuses or bothers you, let me explain clearly what it ACTUALLY is, and it’s basis, and let’s discuss it! That’s a lot more helpful than just jabbing back and forth. It would also help prior if you can tell me a bit about what you believe too, as, you knowing I’m Catholic, you have me at a bit of a disadvantage there. Let me know, I’d be happy to discuss with you (or anyone else who wants to know what the Catholic faith really is!)
Edit: I will further add - yes, I did in fact point out one error in what pastor mike said to start, and am happy to discuss more. I also pointed to a video that goes over every one of his claims in detail. We absolutely do mention our issues commonly. I encourage you to watch those videos and discuss with the original poster as well!
Galatians Chapter 1, A different Gospel = A false Gospel, the Apostle Paul knew that their would be wolves in sheep's clothing.
Anyone, who gives their heart to God and receives Jesus as their Lord and Savior, is part of his (Jesus') church. He is coming back for that bride without spot and wrinkle, not for people who practice idolatry, praying to anyone other than God.
Wolves in shepherd's clothing.
Exactly and we do not need to maintain anything as the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) claims
Galatians 3 King James Version (KJV)
3 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.
5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
4 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?
2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
9 Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.
10 How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision.
11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:
12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.
13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
19 And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sarah's womb:
20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;
21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
King James Version (KJV)
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Protestant ministers amd other heretical preachers certainly are wolves in sheep's clothing.
"Protestant ministers are enemies of the cross of Jesus Christ."
--Pope St. Pius X
@@brucewayne5278 Those are the words of Paul and Paul is a Catholic.
@Michael *Stop dodging Roman ct member. Please cite the exact words that implied "siblings of Jesus were children of other Marys". WHere?*
Mat 27:56 among whom were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's sons.
Joh 19:25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.
you said
See Mqtt. 27: 56 & Joh
We are only to serve Christ, the Father, and the Holy Spirit. we are to pray and worship the trio. Not Mary, not paul, not the saint, not anyone else. this is false doctrine to serve false prophets and gods. Catholism is so wierd... Why cant we just serve the 1 True GOD - The Father the Son and The Holy spirit.??? how is that human history always just makes stuff up out of thin air??? I just dont understand. BIBLE ONLY CANNON ONLY -- THE BIBLE IS THE MOST ESSENTIAL & holds the most validity in history and proof of our lives and instructions. WE CANNOT ADD OR TAKE ANYTHING AWAY...period
Wow are your facts mixed up. First off why don't you actually do some research before you start bad mouthing other people's beliefs? The Roman Catholic Church does worship one God. The Father almighty. The maker of heaven and Earth. Of all that is visible and invisible. We profess that there is only one God every single Mass and yet you think that we 'worship' other saints or Mary? We believe that Jesus Christ makes all things new. He is the God of the living not the dead. Again, we profess this at every single Mass. As for the Bible, we have three readings from it. We read out of the Old Testament and then the new. We use tradition because this helps complete the story of our faith. Tradition is what the early church used because none of the books were canonized yet. As a matter of fact, tradition started before they were even written. So I guess in your beliefs none of the early church goers went to heaven. They even had to go underground just to worship.
So let's talk Bible. How did those books get chosen? Who put that together? How do you know what to canonize and what not to? The church leaders of the 4th century had to figure that out. When they were done they not only canonized the entire New Testament but most of the old. The the antisemite Martin Luther decided to take out 7 of those books. And then you without doing any research act like it was the right thing to do.
@@rangers94ism he did research and he realized how corrupt those books were and that’s why they were removed, and btw those books were added originally the weren’t apart of the original bible
John Henry Cardinal Newman once said, "To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant."
80% of the early church fathers disagreed with what??? The early church fathers didn't believe Peter was who??? Here are only a couple of the literally 60 or 70 you can find in Jimmy Akin's book (listed here as well).
TERTULLIAN OF CARTHAGE
Was anything withheld from the knowledge of Peter, who is called “the rock on which the Church would be built” [Mt 16:18] with the power of “loosing and binding in heaven and on earth? [Mt 16:19]” [Prescription Against Heretics 22 (c. A.D. 200)].
[T]he Lord said to Peter, “On this rock I will build my Church, I have given you the keys of the kingdom of heaven [and] whatever you shall have bound or loosed on earth will be bound or loosed in heaven” [Mt 16:18-19]. . . . What kind of man are you, subverting and changing what was the clear intent of the Lord when he himself conferred this upon Peter? Upon you, he says, I will build my Church; and I will give to you the keys [Modesty 21 (c. A.D. 220)].
ORIGEN OF ALEXANDRIA
Look at [Peter], the great foundation of the Church, that most solid of rocks, upon whom Christ built the Church [Mt 16:18]. And what does our Lord say to him? “O you of little faith,” he says, “why do you doubt?” [Mt 14:31] [Homilies on Exodus 5:4 (c. A.D. 249)].
ST. CYPRIAN OF CARTHAGE
The Lord says to Peter: “I say to you,” he says, “that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not overcome it. And to you I will give the keys of the kingdom of heaven . . .” [Mt 16:18-19]. On him he builds the Church, and commands him to feed the sheep [Jn 21:17], and although he assigns a like power to all the apostles, yet he founded a single chair [cathedra], and he established by his own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity. Indeed, the others were also what Peter was [apostles], but a primacy is given to Peter, by which it is made clear that there is one Church and one chair. . . . If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he think that he holds the faith? If he deserts the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he be confident that he is in the Church? [Unity of the Catholic Church 4; first edition (Treatise 1:4) (A.D. 251)].
Akin, Jimmy. The Fathers Know Best: Your Essential Guide to the Teachings of the Early Church
+Booe
I welcome all my Catholics to heaven.
@BOOE John Henry Cardinal Newman Booe
Booe HE WAS A BRAIN WASHED CATHOLIC CULTIST JUST LIKE YOU JESUS CHRIST THE MESSIAH IS THGE CORNERSTONE AND THE ROCK NOT SOME MAN NAMED PETER! JESUS WAS JUST SAYING THAT HE WAS BUILDING HIS CHURCH EVEN WITH A FLAWED MAN LIKE PETER WHO WOULD AGREE WITH ME AND WOULD REBUKE YOU AND YOUR cult! the catholic "church" that hasn't excepted the WORD OF GOD AS THE WORD OF GOD but something they can reinterperate! lol r.o.t.f.LOL LOL LOL when the bible says says don't let any man be called father you think that you should kill anyone that doesn't lick your ......
boots ! heiritics,blasphemers idolators self worshippers!
You do know many of the Church father's would not have the same interpretation, right? It is not as good as you may think it is, the Church father's didn't agree with everything Rome teaches, even contradicted some of it especially the early father's who knew the Apostles, the deeper you go into church history the less Romish doctrines you see.
@ Bibliocal Christianity We will know what wolves they are by the body count (100 million and counting)And by the number of molested children 3600 right now in germany!the catholic cult has
no idea about what @@reformedcatholic457 is Biblical Christianity !
Mike literally debunked all of this in the video...
Dear Mike :
Have you realized that how many Church denominations are currently in the world ? There are more than twenty thousands according to the Pew Research survey.
Ironically, all of these was started since Martin Luther who led the Protestant movement with its the formal doctrine Sola Scriptura.
On the other hand, Catholic is still one since Jesus said to Peter "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church ..." (Matthew 16:18).
FYI, My wife and I just finished our Divine Mercy prayer in which one of the intentions ( very Tuesday ) is for the Protestant brothers and others to return to the GOD's true Church, Catholic.
May God bless us always.
Hendra.
Agreed!!!
@Brian W. *ROman Ct did compile the Bible for its own community. But all Scriptures of modern days were already there by Ad100s. Which means no one needed Roman ct to compile anything. All churches already had Scriptures for 300 years before Roman ct compiled anything.*
you said
The Roman Church compiled the Bible.
Me, a Catholic, wondering if watching and debating the points in this is worth it...
Probably not. Civil discourse online is kinda hard to come by, lol.
Please pray for me, and I'll pray for you.
Try listening to Billy Gram or Charles Stanley or
Joel Osteen
Try other churches
Search for truth
Pray for understanding
Do you read the Bible gods word
Are you learning more and more about Jesus
I was a Catholic and found Jesus when I visited another church
@@walterromanoff2953 noooo do not listen to Joel osteen he is a heretic
They can not even agree among themselves in addition to telling lies about Catholicism Winger said "History shows no Catholic succession and no Popes ...History shows that Papal Succession is true We have a complete list of Popes from Peter to Francis here is the first 10 ..St. Peter (32-67)
St. Linus (67-76)
St. Anacletus (Cletus) (76-88)
St. Clement I (88-97)
St. Evaristus (97-105)
St. Alexander I (105-115)
St. Sixtus I (115-125) -- also called Xystus I
St. Telesphorus (125-136)
St. Hyginus (136-140)
St. Pius I (140-155)
@@walterromanoff2953 I respect and like Billy Graham.
I'm sorry you weren't shown Christ in the Catholic Church. There are good Catholic speakers out there at least on par with the ones you mentioned that might be worth some of your time, for comparison if nothing else. Fulton Sheen (preached in the 60s, but still lots of good stuff), Scott Hahn, and Bishop Robert Barron are all really talented, dynamic speakers with some stuff on TH-cam if you're interested in looking.
The uncivil discourse online is sad. I wonder how many POTENTIAL Christians were turned away because of the nastiest I and they have seen and
We just had a small argument with the Roman Catholic people, and they thought that they did not committed idolatry for the names of their statutes are coming from the bible, the only thing that differ is that they use images. Hopefully God will enlighten them of correct teaching.
The Catholics are right. Simply veneration. Jesus started the Catholic church.
Jesus didn't build a church where people stays there and pray. JESUS BUILT US to be the temple of His kingdom. If you overlook the BOOK of Corinthians you will see there that GOD didn't want to build a concrete temple cause back in the days of King Solomon they started to build a temple but enemies destroyed it. I am not urging you to leave your religion, I just want you to know what's the truth. You will only see the truth if you, alone will witness it by reading His word (THE BIBLE) which gives us the same preference on how I see the truth. God bless you my brother.
Catholics do not commit idolatry because we do not worship those statues and saints. Yes we honor them and recognize them as important people, but we do not worship them. We only worship God.
@@sammynaas7480 Sammy Naas is correct. Idol worship is forbidden in the Catholic church. We do give honor to Mary and the Saints. Sammy rocks!!! And he knows the truth!!!
@@johnyang1420 the Bible says to worship God with ALL YOUR heart mind body strength. Call ur worship of a cannanite goddess veneration if you want , it’s still worship and idolatry as you bow down to statues
Pontifex Maximus is actually a pagan title for head of the pagan priesthood dating to at least to the birth of Rome.
Forgive me for not remembering the names, but the title of Pontifex Maximus was bestowed to a "Bishop of Rome" by a sitting Roman emperor.
So........
@Paul Beduhn.............Napoleon kidnapped the Pope...........boasted that he had destroyed the RCC; then later.........in exile...........he lamented to his general, 'I marvel.........that whereas the ambitious dreams of myself, Caesar, and Alexander should have vanished into thin air.......a Judean peasant , Jesus , should be able to stretch His hands across the centuries and control the destinies of men and nations."
Pontifex Maximus = High Priest
@Michael *Still dodging? Please cite the exact words that implied "siblings of Jesus were children of other Marys". WHere?*
Mat 27:56 among whom were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's sons.
Joh 19:25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.
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See Mqtt. 27: 56 & John 19: 25.
From Isaiah 22. "19 I will thrust you from your office, and you will be cast down from your station. 20 In that day I will call my servant Eli′akim the son of Hilki′ah, 21 and I will clothe him with your robe, and will bind your girdle on him, and will commit your authority to his hand; and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the house of Judah. 22 And I will place on his shoulder the key of the house of David; he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open."
From Matthew 16: 13 Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesare′a Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do men say that the Son of man is?” 14 And they said, “Some say John the Baptist, others say Eli′jah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”[b] 15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” 16 Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”[c] 17 And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. 18 And I tell you, you are Peter,[d] and on this rock[e] I will build my church, and the powers of death[f] shall not prevail against it.[g] 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven,[h] and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” 20
Chris DesRochers All the apostles were given the same directives. There is absolutely no evidence for succession whatsoever. And you take one tiny misinterpreted verse to support your confirmation bias. Look at ALL the Bible as Mr Winger did. The Bible stands as our directive today as the books within were considered truth long before they were compiled together. Anything added to it is heresy according to Paul, if it changes the gospel. Galatians 1:8-9.
@@kkdoc7864 Mat 16:17-19 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. 18 And I tell you that you are Peter, b and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades c will not overcome it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be d bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be e loosed in heaven.”
This is a direct conversation between Jesus and Peter. He says I will give YOU, not YOU ALL. so where are you getting your doctrines from?
The Righteous Right Hand The rock is Christ and the statement that peter made. He gave the other apostles the same words. There was never a mention of any successors, and he considered himself an elder equal to the others and James ran the first council in Jerusalem. The ROMAN church did not follow the original gospel
@@kkdoc7864 Ok let's assume Christ built the church upon himself. can you provide me a scripture where he gives the key to all disciples?
@@therighteousrighthand don't assume
Mary is Queen of heaven, Revelation Chapter 12 . Who is the woman with the crown of stars dressed with the Sun????
Definitely it's Mary 🙏
arc6735 I doubt it
Wgaither1 if not her then Who is John the Revelator talkking about???
the woman represents Israel
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Before the Fall Eve was referred as Woman, Jesus referred to Mary as Woman.... so the Woman in Chapter 12 is a person not a nation.
God Bless Israel !!!!
How can anyone think that Jesus left this earth and left no one on the earth in charge, it’s the most ridiculous thing in the world. The establishment of the Catholic Church is specifically mentioned in John 20:21-23 where he gives his apostles, not all of the disciples, the authority and power that his Father gave him. They knew that strife would come in regards to the episcopate, which Clement of Rome (mentioned in the book of Philippians) mentions in his letter to the Corinthians written around 67 AD (written from Rome, I wonder why that is) that says that the apostles appointed all the leaders and the leaders that would succeed those leaders. It’s ridiculous to say, oh Jesus in heaven is in charge, but no one *specifically* on the earth, just Pastor Bob of his local congregation who feels called to the ministry. The Church would have never survived if that was the model and it isn’t.
Based^^^😎👍
Amen!
Your view of Jesus is too small. He is High Priest over every priest, that is every person saved through faith in Him, and He is quite capable of overseeing His priesthood from Heaven. He is God, after all.
That still doesn't mean Peter was the Pope
@Michael *Stop L all days Mike Texeira. John 19: 25-26 did not say "siblings of Jesus were from other Marys". Which part says so? Cite the actual words that implied so.*
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Joh 19:25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.
Joh 19:26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, "Woman, behold your son!"
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See John 19: 25-26.
See Matt. 27: 56 & John 19: 25.
@Michael *Yes please cite the exact words that implied "siblings of Jesus were children of other Marys". WHere?*
Mat 27:56 among whom were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's sons.
Joh 19:25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.
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See Mqtt. 27: 56 & John 19: 25.
@@Michael-nb4ng *WHy do you keep L all days Mike Texeira? Or you just copied blindly from R ct sites?*
@@Michael-nb4ng *WHy no answer low wit?*
@Michael *Still dodging? Please cite the exact words that implied "siblings of Jesus were children of other Marys". WHere?*
Mat 27:56 among whom were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's sons.
Joh 19:25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.
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See Mqtt. 27: 56 & John 19: 25.
@Scott Mlinarich *R Catholics love to assume. You assumed R Church = the Church. Bible most certainly did not say so. Neither real Church History. You will have to prove your claims.*
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As a Catholic, it never ceases to amaze me at the amount of time and energy Protestants spend criticizing the Church in order to justify their own existence.
i was born in a RCC family. born, raised and educated. when i learned about the truth on transubstantion, i got out. i explained to my family and they too understood. after 53 years, i now claim- ONLY JESUS CHRIST SAVES!
Jesus started Catholic church. You can return. Take RCIA!!!
@@johnyang1420 what is your basis in saying such?
JESUS said come and follow Me
(mark 8:34, luke 9:23)
never any church
DO NOT BE DECEIVED
GOD IS NOT MOCKED
A MAN REAPS WHAT HE SOWS
(galatians 6:7)
IN VAIN THEY WORSHIP ME
TEACHING AS DOCTRINE
THE PRECEPTS OF MEN
(mark 7:7)
Why r u people so against the Catholic Church. The Roman.Oethodox an Coptic Christians were there long before the Greeks put pen to parchment. The early church did it by word of mouth and iconography Greeks put into a book the first Bibles. I go to Mass every Sunday and Bible read In several parts. I m fed up with Protestant criticism.
We're not against the church but against the false leaders that have been working for themselves instead of making Jesus the cornerstone. The vatican is the seat of Satan. A little research will show you alot. Im an ex catholic and was called out of the catholic church as for some in my family who saw the light as well.
The problem with the Catholic Church is that many of their teachings are heresy. A few examples: praying to Mary the mother of Jesus and praying to statues and dead saints (that’s called idolatry which will arouse Gods jealousy, anger and wrath), baptizing babies (this one is not necessarily sinful but of completely no value or worth because a baby cannot consciously make the decision to follow Christ. The point of baptism is representative of one’s decision to die to themselves and be raised in Jesus Christ. A baby cannot make that decision for themselves), and confession to a priest and penance (the Catholic Church has distorted the biblical teaching on confession by making it into a ritual that is directly in opposition to the Gospel of Jesus Christ which states that salvation is gained by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone. In other words, these rituals are done in the Catholic Church as a means to earn forgiveness. The Bible teaches us that we CANT earn forgiveness. It is simply given to us as a gift by believing in the Gospel of Jesus.) These are just a few examples, however there are many more. Just read your Bible and pray and the the Lord God may grant mercy on you and reveal to you the truth. God bless you.
Richard Landriault That’s LITERALLY the exact opposite of what the Bible teaches and of what Jesus himself taught. No one is good enough!!! You cannot earn your way to heaven. In fact, that belief is going to send many people straight to hell. “All have turned away, all have become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one” Psalm 14:3 NIV, “As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.” “Their throats are open graves; their tongues practice deceit.” “The poison of vipers is on their lips.” “Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.” “Their feet are swift to shed blood; ruin and misery mark their ways, and the way of peace they do not know.” “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”” Romans 3:10-18 NIV, ““Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good-except God alone.” Luke 18:19 NIV. Read the scriptures, because the Catholic Church is teaching you lies.
Not the church itself but the doctrine of worshipping men and women as saints, as God clearly stated, only the Lord, his son, and the Holy spirit deserve to be worshipped.
WE ALL BELIEVE JESUSIS THE WAY THE TRUTH.AND THE LIFE, not men!
@charlesjoyce982 *Mattias replaced Judas. So who are the "successors" of the other 11 Apostles? Please list out.*
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Apostles appoint successors.
The apostles went out to the' ends of the earth ' as Jesus commanded in Acts 1: 8; they were all martyred and replaced.........until now.
@@AnnTeixeira-v3l *You cannot list out any successor of the 12 Apostles though.*
the catholic church claims Jesus gave Peter authority .where do the others claim their authority is from and how?
The laying of hands!Who else has an unbroken chain.
THEY KILLED PETER:
Catholic also claim, "Peter was the first Pope". Ironically, Roman Catholic Church killed Peter, upside down, on cross.
@@farwestgarohills3831 the Roman Empire killed him not the Church.
He was killed after Bishop of Rome was give "the power" and "his seat" by Roman Emperor before he moved his capital to Constantinople. It was the Jesuits who killed him; you can not deny it. That what history say.
What planet do you live on? The Jesuits were not founded until 1534 in Paris France. Peter died around 64 and 68 AD. You're just repeating what your pastor Jimbo says without any evidence. And no way the Bishop of Rome moved to Constantinople bc Christianity 1. Was still very young and 2. It was illegal there until 313 when Constantine made it legal in Constantinople. Cmon man YOU can't deny history.
Yes you are right. But it informally existed ever since Romans became Christian.
Who are Jesuits? The Anti-Christs'.
A strong argument about tradition, is that they are the ones who gathered and put together scripture. Thus... at least at one point. The church fathers really really thought everything in the Bible was super important.
Question is, do the followers of the church fathers read scripture and study it today? Very hard to find those today. My entire life as a Catholic I have yet to meet one who actually studies scripture.
@@Kevin-lw2gl No, it's rather easy. Every parish has some group meetings, usually there is also one related to scripture. So.. where were you looking for...?
@@Kevin-lw2gl The main point and focus of Scripture and its primary function is to be read in worship - at Mass
@@neosmoker "some group meetings?" Why haven't I seen them? I was an altar boy, went through Cathecism, joined the youth groups, was part of the church choir, my dad was even an assistant to the priest at the local town parish. All of that yet not one time during my time as a Catholic were we encouraged to read scripture, why? I didn't have to look as soon as I left the Catholic church, but I shouldn't have to.
@@danocinneide1885 aha, and is that what Paul did? Just read scripture during worship and not for study? Did the church fathers only read scripture while in Mass? Is there any indication of scripture being recited only during worship? Do you even know what scripture actually says? No, you don't as a Catholic. That big red book the priest pulls out during Mass is scripture? Why don't you read scripture for yourself to actually learn about the life of Jesus and his apostles, about the great men and prophets of the Old Testament. Everytime I engage with Catholics they say to me that scripture isn't the only way to know Christ. Well, they still admit it is valid but yet don't even know it, why? Because you don't study it.
"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will reject you from serving as My priest. Since you have forgotten the law of your God, I will also forget your sons."
*Hosea 4:6*
My old art teacher told us he called his fiancée after waking up and they both had a dream telling them they weren't meant to be married and that our art was meant to travel to the Florida Everglades and teach art and spread the word of God to those children. The time he moved here most of our town was getting on drugs and moving pot and forgetting God, there are now 3 generations of adults that would've been lost to drugs that are here today because he was always there to remind you God has better plan for your life.
Bailey richards, inspiring! Thank you
The pope is the prime minister tot he King. Jesus cannot be his own prime minister.
@@bridgefin pope means Father so no the pope isn't the ambassador to the father.
@@bridgefin There's also no backing for a pope
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Read Isaiah 22 sometime. Its about the same position as pope, that is prime minister to the King who is Jesus. In that chapter you will see that the prime minister is called to be as a FATHER to the people.
@Michael *Yes please cite the exact words that implied "siblings of Jesus were children of other Marys". WHere?*
Mat 27:56 among whom were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's sons.
Joh 19:25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.
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See Mqtt. 27: 56 & John 19: 25.
There is a big difference in knowing doctrine and actually understanding it. The pillar stands as it has for 2000 years and will until the end of time why??? Because Christ said the gates of hell shall not prevail against her.
+A-Light2theDark The Catholic Church adds SO much cholesterol to the GOOD NEWS...many Catholics don't even know what the GOOD NEWS is.
What is the GOOD NEWS?
+Tim Spangler true some do not the good news but the devout ones know better than you. You settled for a watered down version of Christianity that took away from Christ teachings then accuse us of doing what they did sad really.
I take that as an "I have no idea" to the question of what the GOOD NEWS is.
A-Light2theDark explain please why then do catholics pray to the saints again?
ecgodsmack86 What do you think is the thought process behind this practice?
I Will like to know what protestants Will get there doctrine if the catholic church never made the bible?
+Patrick Montgomery
er what Greek scriptures only? have u heard Targums, Septuagint (Koine Greek) and Latin Versions?
+Patrick Montgomery
So it is very obvious that u have not heard Targums, Septuagint and the Vulgate.
Yet here u are lecturing and accusing the Cstholics.
So what happened in 330 AD that u kept emphasizing the Catholics split from what?
maria jarvis ....in reply... brilliant... may God Bless you!
+Ann Merrick
Again u are wrong bc u only have to look at the Catacombs and Tombs of Early Christian Martyrs between 2nd to 4th century in Appian Way outside of Rome.
Not only that in Asia Minor particularly in Cappadocia caves. The place where St. Paul started his ministry.
There are 3,500 carved churches of tufa rocks all over. U will find the oldest art of Madonna (Mary) and child similar to the Catacombs in Appian Way.
Also, account of Mass written in 2nd century in details by St. Justin the Martyr who was beheaded by the Roman soldiers bc of his faith.
There are many more writings from early Church Fathers and biblical archaeology sites.
They took the scriptures and made it impossible for the common man to get copies by hoarding it and keeping it in Latin which the common man couldn't read. Selfish controlling evil Rome, no big surprise. Come out of her my people. Let God be true and every man a liar.
*ROman popes are such "wonderful" people.*
1294-1303 Pope Boniface VIII
Committed repeated incest upon his children and fathered illegitimate children by them.
The poet Dante visited Rome and described the Vatican as a sewer of corruption.
Pope Boniface VIII also publicly declared the following: “to enjoy oneself and to lie carnally with women or with boys is no more a sin than rubbing one’s hands together” [History of the Church Councils, Book 40, art. 697].
Sent mercenaries to destroy other people’s castles, declared all the prominent Italian Colonna family’s property forfeited and proceeded to parcel their land out among his family members.
Excommunicated the king and released a decree stating that “every human creature [was] subject to the Roman pontiff.”
In 1302 issued a well known Unam Sanctum which declared that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true Church, outside of which there is no salvation. He may have forgotten to read the Bible: Acts 16:31 King James Version (KJV): 31And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
References.
YOU have this weird idea that the apostles/disciples were sinless, maybe James 5: 16 can help YOU.
@@miketeixeira7853 *ROman pagans have the weird idea that their pagan po0ps can give them infallible doctrines. Maybe jumping might help you.*
@Siege Heavenly *Bible does not say Church = Roman Ctsits + Orthos. Not once. So where did you get all your man made claims?*
*Bible uses the words CHurch and Churches. This is how Bible defines them.*
⭐ Biblical definition of Church and Churches in the Bible. ⭐
R Catholics do not know what is the biblical meaning of Church and Churches in the Bible.
- Church in the Bible refers to "all local churches + all believers".
- Churches in the Bible refers to "local churches or believers.
*So effectively any group of believers = a Church. So R Catholics’ questions are irrelevant. Bible does not say Church need to be in certain period of time to be a Church; since Church = any group of believers.*
1 *Bible mentions Church in general referring to all churches as a whole.*
1Co 11:22 What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and shame those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you in this? I do not praise you.
1Co 12:28 And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues.
1Co 14:4 He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church.
2 *Bible mentions churches = local churches*
Act 9:31 Then the churches throughout all Judea, Galilee, and Samaria had peace and were edified. And walking in the fear of the Lord and in the comfort of the Holy Spirit, they were multiplied.
Act 15:41 And he went through Syria and Cilicia, strengthening the churches.
Act 16:5 So the churches were strengthened in the faith, and increased in number daily.
Rom 16:4 who risked their own necks for my life, to whom not only I give thanks, but also all the churches of the Gentiles.
Rom 16:16 Greet one another with a holy kiss. The churches of Christ greet you.
1Co 7:17 But as God has distributed to each one, as the Lord has called each one, so let him walk. And so I ordain in all the churches.
1Co 11:16 But if anyone seems to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God.
3 *Bible mentions "church = believers".*
Rom 16:5 Likewise greet the church that is in their house. Greet my beloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia to Christ.
1Co 16:19 The churches of Asia greet you. Aquila and Priscilla greet you heartily in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.
Col 4:15 Greet the brethren who are in Laodicea, and Nymphas and the church that is in his house.
4 *R Catholics have the wrong definition of Church. To R Catholics, Church meant R Catholic Church which Bible says its Not!*
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Protestantism has no reason to exist leaving Orthodoxy and Catholicism as havinf the only possible legitimate claims to being the church Christ founded.
Individuals will always search for ways the Bible will conform to them.
M.C.S. That's why there are so many different denominations all based on "the bible alone".
How does the words of Jesus conform to you. you have a choice to make is Jesus lying or telling the TRUTH.
John 6: 47
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Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
John 5:24
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life
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25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
YOU HAVE A CHOICE TO MAKE IS JESUS LYING OR TELLING THE TRUTH?
I PUT MY FAITH IN HIM THAT HE IS TELLING THE TRUTH AND THE POPES ARE ALL LIARS.
you dont believe the gospel that's number problem with Roman Catholics.
1Corithians 15:1-4
1 Moreover, brethren, I DECLARE UNTO YOU THE GOSPEL which I PREACHED unto you, which also ye have RECEIVED, and wherein ye STAND;
2 By which also "YE ARE SAVED", if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have BELIEVED IN VAIN. note note
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I ALSO RECEIVED, how that CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS ACCORDING TO THE "SCRIPTURES;"
4 And that he was BURIED, and that he ROSE AGAIN THE THIRD DAY ACCORDING TO THE "SCRIPTURES:"
BE BLESSED AND REPENT FROM THIS RELIGIOUS FALSE SYSTEM OF PAGANISM AND IDOLATRY AND BELIEVE THE GOSPEL
CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THESE SIMPLE VERSES
ROMANS 10
8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the HEART man BELIEVETH UNTO RIGHTEOUSNESS; and with the MOUTH CONFESSION IS MADE UNTO SALVATION.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is RICH UNTO ALL THAT CALL UPON HIM.
13 For whosoever shall CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have NOT BELIEVED? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have NOT HEARD? and how shall they hear without a PREACHER?
15 And how shall they preach, except THEY BE SENT? as it is written, How BEAUTIFUL are THE FEET OF THEM THAT PREACH THE GOSPEL OF PEACE, and bring glad tidings of good things
ACTS 11 (Peter preaches the gospe to GENTILES)
15 And as I began to SPEAK, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
16 THEN REMEMBERED I THE WORD OF THE LORD, how that he said, JOHN INDEED BAPTIZED WITH WATER; BUT YE SHALL BE BAPTIZED WITH THE HOLY GHOST.
17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like GIFT as he did unto us, who BELIEVED on the LORD JESUS CHRIST; what was I, that I could withstand God?
18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and GLORIFIED GOD, SAYING, Then hath God also to the GENTILES GRANTED REPENTANCE UNTO LIFE.
BELIEVING THE GOSPEL IS SALVATION,
AND IF YOU ARE NOT TRUSTING JESUS FOR SALVATION AND ARE TRUSTING IN YOUR INSTITUTION, YOU ARE NOT SAVED.
JESUS GIVES ETERNAL LIFE TO ALL WHO TRUST IN HIS FINISHED WORK ON THE CROSS FOR SALVATION.
IT IS FINISHED, JESUS DID IT ALL
BE BLESSED AND BELIEVE THE GOSPEL.
@@livingwater7580 you have summed up the gospel perfectly. Both Catholics and protestants would agree on that.
@@livingwater7580 as a Catholic I agree with you absolutely. If you are not trusting Jesus for salvation and trusting in your institution, you are not saved. Nobody would disagree with that.
Pastor Mike,
Please debate Trent Horn.
debate? lol its not a boxing match lol bumping chest with people is dumb,
Yea a debate, or even just a dialogue.. not the same as a fight.. If Mike is going to make videos like this, he should be able to at least dialogue with a catholic apologist. These types of civil interactions are helpful for everyone. Unlike a fight.
Horn would destroy him. Watch Trent horns channel. He already debunked all he said. What’s left is a debate. It’s almost comical listening to this boy.
Trent doesn't try to win arguments and get one over his opponents. He is such a respectful person and you never hear an ad hominem pass his lips. He's humble so I will say it for him. He's unbeatable!
@@michaeldamian4401 unbeatable huh lol sheep
Pastor Winger, there is authority in every group, organization, and in Christianity no matter if it is Catholic or Protestant. In a family, the parents are the authority, In a school, the superintendent, principal, and teachers are the authority. You are the authority in this video. You are the authority in your church. There must be authority or everyone is completely on their own with no direction at all. If that were to happen in Christianity, it dies. You seem to advocate this. That no one should have authority over another's faith. I think this is dangerous. This does not mean that people should be mindless robots. Catholics are not mindless robots. Catholics have a choice just like all Christians on how they participate in their faith. The Catholic faith is reasonable, logical and biblical. It is reasonable to interpret John 21:15-19 as the Catholic Church does. It is reasonable to believe that Peter has a special place in the church. As a Catholic, I do not understand why the Catholic Church is continuously bashed. Rarely, do I see one protestant faith criticizing another protestant faith. Does the Catholic Church scare you that much?
Are you kidding me the Protestant faith is more fractured that anyting they just agree on many different doctors
Mike Zimmerman:
I agree that " bashing," is not helpful nor Christian.
The reason the Roman Catholic Church may get more criticism than other churches ( excluding Mormons) is because it is so far removed from scriptural doctrine.
There is an equal degree of criticism of the Prosperity Christian churches and Word of Faith Churches.
These churches are preaching a false gospel.
@@xuniepyro7399 PLEASE STOP.
Make your argument. Challenge the arguments of others.
But the personal attacks are not helpful.
If your intent is to persuade Catholics or any Christian of the truth of scripture, the attacks will never do that.
It's unchristian behavior.
When we stand before God, it will be our behavior NOT our beliefs that God will judge.
@rafaeljaimes6958 *Acts 15 says even NT Church took doctrines from "what God says and said". Which part RCs do not understand?*
*And the most crucial part is: nowhere 1 Tim 3 ever said "Roman religion = the Church". So where is your proof that it was so? Only self claims?*
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1 Timothy 3:15 "The Church of the living God, the pillar and base of the truth" what do you don't understand?