I think what it says is that Heat ownership is waaaaaay pettier 😂. The suspension will probably be undone in the grievance process, but that takes a long time to follow through with.
@@anthonycamejo528 the type of suspension Butler received is supposed to be for really bad behavior like what Green did to Poole, or for just not showing up entirely. Butler has always showed up, and always practiced and played when he was available. The Heat are CHOOSING to use Butler less cuz they are petty about him wanting to leave. The suspension money Butler will probably get back after the grievance process goes thru, but that can take a looong time.
They named a fine specifically after Ben Simmons. Huh... So all the people who thought that Ben Simmons would leave an ever lasting mark on the league were right.
And I don't know if it was true that Simmons got most of his money back. Sixers gave in and he definitely got significant $ back, but easily could have lost around 10 M in the end. And Sixers probably gave in because it could have come out that they knew Ben had a bad back, despite claiming he got better after physical therapy. Remember he would later be diagnosed with a disc herniation once he ramped up with the Nets.
He’s 35. He has a 50+ million dollar cap number for next year. It’s a divorce that needs to happen. Pat Riley for all accounts doesn’t tolerate this type of behavior. The thing is, each club knows he’s not happy so they’ll offer less in exchange.
I kinda think Pat Riley needs to go. Like LeBron left cuz he is too overbearing. Like Miami SHOULD be an ideal location for free agents, but they aren't cuz nobody wants to get yelled at all the dang time 😂 if they can help it. The Heat has a blue collar, hard working culture expressly because they can't attract top tier talent because of said culture.
Sure don’t blame Riley at all for putting Jimmy on blast in front of the media instead of speaking to him separately when he made the comment about the Celtics. When your boss embarrasses you like that things will never be the same. Pat needs to take accountability…it’s not always the players.
@@zacharybarker9991Then said culture isn't for the Charmin soft beta types. Imagine getting paid $50+ million a year but can't handle the heat...pun fully intended.
Pat literally signed Jimmy to a max contract extension in 2021 and knew he would be signing up for the declining years of Jimmy's career and fully aware of his past injury issues. Not to mention, Jimmy would most certainly ask for another extension, and Pat knew he wouldn't want to give him max money again. Given Jimmy's 3-team prior history of acting out when he doesn't get the contact he wants, Pat should've traded Jimmy before this season so this mess wouldn't happen to the team this season
And what’s your point? Just cuz he knew that means he needs to keep giving him extensions? This is a business. Jimmy butler is not worth that money and pat riley is smart for not giving it to him.
Yeah Miami will just let Butler sit on the bench than get Beal. Beals contract is till 26 lol. If his contract was running out thats fine. And Beal is a worst player than Jimmy
@@danieldelgado8601Beal has a no trade in his contract. He has to okay any trade. So if the Hornets, for example, are willing to take Beal's contract and he doesn't want to go, it doesn't happen. Miami is not taking back a bad contract. They don't have to trade him. If Butler opts out in the off-season, his contract comes off the books. Unless its expiring contracts/picks and/or a young player the Heat want, there's no reason for the Heat to trade him..
There’s a market. It’s small but it’s there. Dame Lillard goes to Miami like he wanted originally to play with his friend Bam. Let’s be real, he doesn’t want to be in Milwaukee and he’s having a tough time adjusting to being the #2 guy. In Miami, he will get the ball in his hands and he’ll be happy. Jimmy returns to his Alma Mater Marquette to play with Bucks. Milwaukee is notorious for giving all their players options. Example, Lopez, Middleton, Pat Connaughton all have extensions. Plus the Bucks are in a win now mode. Jimmy gets an opportunity to prove he deserves an extension. Doc Rivers not really an X’s and O’s Coach but great at managing personalities. Lastly, Trade Machine likes it. 😬
@ okay i actually love this trade scenario, but i don’t think pat and micky will do it 😭 most times stars are sent to the opposite conference no? im expecting him to go west if he’s moved.
@ you’re not getting g what I’m trying to say. The cap restrictions implemented this year make it harder than ever to match up the money for a trade. That’s what I’m referring to
@@justGSquared I get that. But You implied that it was bad for Jimmy. Who do you think is going to be worst off after this? Jimmy is a player. Personnel and contracts are the front offices responsibility
@@justGSquared "jimmy is about to find that out" one can infer by that statement you're saying its bad for jimmy. In reality, its not great for jimmy (fewer trade partners) but he can still find a landing spot that will pay him. The heat are in worse position given their lack of leverage in any trade deal.
Bradley Beal one of the worst contracts in NBA history this guy sucks most of the time and every once in a while he’ll have a good game or he’ll be injured. He’s gonna get the vet minimum after this contract is over.
Honestly I don't think Jimmy even was being disrespectful. News out even pointed out he and his camp didn't set any exigence as to places to go. Felt like just a guy voicing his personal issues, not necessarily putting it on the Heat organization. Honestly, I think that's just Riley taking advantage of the situation to set an example out of Jimmy. Wouldn't be the first time Riley did that to his guys. It's all about being professional as much as it is about not showing any perceived weakness.
Pat Riley don't play. No player is above the team, the mission of team mangement and the fans who spent their hard earned money to come see the players perform at their best and be competitive. This Miami Heat and Jimmy Butler relationship is done. The best case scenario may be to trade Jimmy Butler to possibly the Denver Nuggets. Chicago Bulls, Minnesota Timberwolves, somewhat Philadelphia 76ers and now the Miami Heat. Jimmy Butler has a track record, much like James Harden.
Yep and he’s shown throughout his career he’s selfish and willing to bring the team down with him if he’s unhappy. No team should feel motivated to pay this guy the money he wants.
It’s sad when you see players do this. That’s why I’m glad I’m a huge Celtics fan. Danny ainge drafted our two stars and built the team around them. I know other players do it but man it’s getting out of control. The league needs to make some rules about this. Even in baseball dodgers were able to spend more money than God to win a championship
@ honestly I am rambling because I’m still pissed what they did with all that money and how they were even allowed to do it, but it does sort of makes sense with this situation. Players are allowed to do whatever they want and MLB owners can spend more money than God and then be allowed to sign the two best free agents available before anyone else gets a chance at the second best available free agent. Yes it is a different topic so I will give you that. I don’t know why I even talked about it lol
If they take the corpse of Steven Adams I’ll take him but not for much more other than salary filler. Last night against the Celtics shows we do actually need a player of his calibre
@@WildlifeOutlaw1066 with the right coaching and development we literally already have 2 guys that can become that, just gotta be patient they’re still young. We were literally the worse team in the league 2 years ago and look where we at now without having a all star caliber player
I don’t like how we not calling out Pat Riley as much as we are Jimmy Butler. Yea Butler has a track record, but are we going to mention Pat’s record too? There’s been issues with every star player he has had dating back to Shaq why is that ? So every star player you get is childish and spoiled ? Come on man that’s bs and yall know it
Pat Riley set a structure for the Heat. You're getting paid as a player. $48 M for you to play and not act like a kid and someone just took your Skittles. Pat's job is to make tough decisions. If he gives Butler a max extension then it will hurt the team more. Butler did something which he got 7 games suspension. This is not just out of the blue... They probably had a conversation already yet Butler do what he does. So Riley put the hammer down and take control. This is what leadership is all about. This is what a structure is all about. You don't let a single player control your organization. There's only 450 players who plays in the league. It's idiotic to say no one would play for Heat. LaMelo Ball even said after he played Lithuania.. he don't care which team choose him as long as he's in NBA !
hes team first these players are childish and spoiled millionaires hes literally crying in the media saying hes unhappy balling bc he wants to request a trade LOLLL like stop shaq was also a huge baby hence him being traded and kobe being in la for his entire career so jus stop with its pat riley, pat riley is no bs person so jimmy can take his antics elsewhere once again i mean if every team gets rid of him how are you gonna blame pat riley do you lack critical thinking completely like what
Jimmy is a journeyman. He will never get his jersey retired anywhere. He will go to another team with his bad energy and mess up the chemistry. This was unprofessional on his part and he quit on his team.
Why would he go to another team "with his bad energy and mess up the chemistry"? Did you forget the significant Heat playoff runs that he was a key part of?
Jimmy Butler is one of the prime examples of why the soft cap is killing the NBA. The Heat knew it was bad to pay Jimmy Butler as much as they did for his age. Now they can't trade him because nobody else wants to over pay him or doesn't have room with the aprons. The Heat, knowing it was bad, still paid him. Because letting him walk would not have left them cap space to replace him with a free agent. With the aprons in place, acting like the real salary cap, the 165 million soft cap should be abolished. all that it does is force teams who can't afford to let guys walk away for nothing, sign non max contract guys to max contracts. Jamaal Murray wouldn't have gotten his big bag if it wasn't for the soft cap. Brandon Ingram and Johnathan Kuminga are going to force their teams into bad contracts or let them walk for nothing because of the soft cap. If the soft cap was gone, teams could let those guys walk and use their previous contract money to replenish. As long as they are under the apron, it's not an advantage. It doesn't favor large market teams. The soft cap has been bad for the league, and with the apron's it's flat out terrible.
"letting him walk would not have left them cap space to replace him with a free agent." Which is fine if the Heat front office could just agree to save on their tax bill for a bit and develop the young players they currently have, rather than fruitlessly trying to immediately compete for a championship without Butler (as if they were even going to do so *with* age 35+ Butler and the current payroll!). That said, if they could come up with a particular *trade* like the following, they could also create some flexibility: If Miami could trade Butler without taking back salary in return, it would leave the team with a trade exception equal to whatever Butler will be making in the first season of his new contract, along with a non-taxpayer mid-level exception worth $14.1MM and the $5.1MM bi-annual exception.
@@ahrenb3393except 99 percent of players are out of the league before they're 40. Do most people die by the time they're 40. Thanks for the horrific analogy. 👏
Well the facts are the Heat have been to 7 finals appearances. Jimmy has taken them to two. I would suggest that he deserves his extension and he could have sure used some help! Bam is average, Herro is average and Jimmy is 35 so he could use another solid scorer. I will also suggest he will be hard to trade based on his salary, age, and what’s available to get back. He might have to tough it out this season and opt out. Love to see him go to the Nuggets and get a chip, but I like Jr better for many reasons and I wouldn’t let him go if I were the nuggets.
Jimmy Butler is incredibly selfish for acting like this. Bro you are getting over 40+ MILLION DOLLARS TO PLAY BASKETBALL. And you decide you want to purposely not utilize your talents when you’re on the floor. Players simply have too much power in today’s game and this is just another example. All he is doing is leaving a bad taste in fans mouth.
Wooooww they did Jimmy raw all because the man said he couldn't see himself in Miami they suspended him that look so petty on pat riely part this should speak volumes
He should’ve shut his mouth. How are you gonna brag about how much better you are than your team? Stop simping for a guy throwing a temper tantrum well making 50 mill a year to play basketball
@@1Dolfan305 your an idiot if you really believe that. Jimmy is still gonna collect his checks while he awaits his next team. The Heat will continue to be mid to bad, with no real way to compete this season and probably next season too. If they let him opt out in the offseason they'll have lost him for jack sh!t. Heat handled this horribly.
Insubordination will not be tolerated Jimmy did all he could do 3 eastern conference finals trips and 2 finals appearances in 4 years with these mid players
Jimmy probably doesn't get traded this season and opts out of his contract this offseason and signs a 2+1 for 100 million with the 3rd year being a team option.
Lucky dude to avoid a road trip he didn't want to be on anyhow. The money he'll get back, but it shows other players how nasty the Heat will make it for anyone who doesn't jump when they say, "Jump!"
@ was he difficult during the two trips to the finals? How about the 3 trips to ECF? Jimmy has stated that he is not for everyone, he acknowledges that. The front office of the Heat are starting up that narrative again to deter away the teams that he wants to be traded to.
@@a1hernandez30I think he probably was but he was younger and worth the headaches. He isn’t the player he used to be, doesn’t have the leverage he used to.
Only way Suns getting butler is if Beal waives that trade clause 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣don’t matter which team takes on his contract if he don’t wanna go he not going 🤔🤔🤔
As a Mavs fan, I'd offer Jaden Hardy, maybe Omax if they want him. Maxi Kleber and Dwight Powell for salary purposes. Our 25 first, and *MAYBE* a pick swap down the line, or a couple second rounders instead. If Miami can get a better deal elsewhere, then good on them. Hardy has talent and needs playing time, but he won't get it consistently behind Luka and Kyrie. I'd only be interested in keeping Jimmy for the rest of this season and a playoff run anyways. We are so banged up right now, we need a jump start. I also wouldn't touch any of our core role players (PJ, Gafford, Naji etc)
Old Grandma sleepy Pat can't sign any big name free agents, and the only one that he has Pat drives them away. After this, no superstars would want to play for the Heat organization
They’ll probably trade Butler but suspending him at least keeps Jimmy outta the locker room while they look for a trade partner and not have him be as big of a distraction to the rest of the team.
You, my guy, lose all credibility saying butler is acting out when the organization was the one trying to shop him around behind the scenes and want to back track. Now this guy is saying well screw it I want to leave he’s the one that’s the villain now
And just let them have a $55M cap hit against them next year which upholds their capspace? Thats a disservice to the fans. Just trade him and be done with it
You think this is still the days of slavery. You need to be taught a lesson 💯. STOP THINKING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BRING BACK SLAVERY, BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME?
I wouldn't trade him, he'd sit on the bench before I would be bullied to trade him and he's always injured anyway. And name teams that would take on his contract, knowing he's going to want another extension soon. He just made his own situation worse with that interview, he's bad chemistry for any team now.
Because nobody wants him... Suns are interested, but nobody wants Beal, and that's it) Butler has 6months 50mln contract, very hard to trade this nonsense fast
Love Jimmy but he aint getting any max deal anywhere next year. This is also bad for the Heat. Think Luka would wanna go to the Heat with how they treat their stars on the backend?
PR has to go almost 30 years of pissed off players. This old guy talking in this video is saying that PR is right because of JB getting out of chi minn. This guy is a joke
Being suspended for 7 games for saying you want to be traded is crazy. It's like getting fired when you give your employer your 60-day notice because you accepted a job elsewhere. Like you don't just stop working for your current employer just because you're moving on to a new job in 60 days.
You've got the priorities mixed up here. You don't get to *publicly* say things negative/divisive to the press regarding your employer with no consequences, especially if your employer is already contractually obligated to pay you millions upon millions of dollars to do the job they pay you to do. It's not a worker's right to just say whatever you want to the press about your employer. It's not like getting fired -- he's under a long term, guaranteed contract, and has a player option for next year. Specific to the NBA, they don't want players to publicly request trades when almost all players are under guaranteed contracts. The NBA wants discussions to occur internally, not publicly.
@@mmortal03 No, I 100% agree with you. But Magic wasn't suspended when he asked to be traded from the Lakers, was he? Heat could have cited 'personal reasons' for Jimmy being away from the team and not playing, rather than a suspension. Also, it is unlike Spoelstra to not run plays for Jimmy Butler. Like they've been saying - he was standing in the corner for most part of the game vs Pacers and NOLA. This was the reason why Jimmy went to the media in the first place.
@@mangesh9034305 Jimmy wanted to keep playing to continue getting paid until he was traded, while also saying what he said publicly. The Heat weren't going to give him paid leave after that.
You said Stromile Swift got most his money back after his grievance, and That he lost a good chunk of change. Sounds like he acted a fool and got his money back so there was NO significant repercussions?
Simons and Rob-Will for butler. Heat will get a replacement scorer in simons and a back up center behind bam. Blazers get a real wing to play along scoot, sharpe, and ayton. Blazers will have a lot of growing with scoot but a line up like Scoot Sharpe Butler Grant Ayton Would be decent the only thing is scoot is more of a backup pg. So it may take a year or 2 of butler coaching him
Don’t do that to Portland! Remember Minnesota when they were in the same position as Portland and the wolves brought in Butler? How did that turn out? Not good!
Think Butler ends up staying. I can't see a deal that makes sense for Miami, they don't want to take back long term money and due to Butlers salary it is almost impossible for a successful trade to take place without a player on long term big money, especially with the new CBA. Maybe the Rockets with FVVs 40m team option in 2025/26
If you don't think Jimmy gets traded, then what happens? I understand he would deny his player option and walk into free agency, but between now and then? He just doesn't come back? He's definitely not playing another game there after this.
Say what you want about Jimmy, but lets keep it 100 here. Pat brought in an aging Kyle Lowery and Terry Rozier. Every time a player started to play above their paygrade (Gabe Vincent, Caleb Martin, Derrick Jones Jr., ect.) Pat just let them walk and didn't try to retain them. Jimmy honestly does seem like a Diva right now, but the man deserves to be a little pissed off. I mean what has Pat done to help them win a chip in the last 5 years.
It's very possible that he'll opt in to the $50m next year and then be on a vet minimum on a contender like Westbrook from there on. His best days are done and at this point he isn't worth giving up young players or picks. He also has a long list of clubs where he has left on poor terms.
That's what I'm saying. This suspension is just them being mad and vindictive. Come to find out players usually get most of their money back after filing a grievance 😂
As a Heat fan...I'm glad he's leaving....we need another star that can play the entire season not missing 17/20 games!!...we can Do the Warrior or Jazz trade according to the rumors.
They went harder on him than the Warriors did for Draymond punching out. Jordan
I think that says more about the Warriors association and not in a good light.
I think what it says is that Heat ownership is waaaaaay pettier 😂. The suspension will probably be undone in the grievance process, but that takes a long time to follow through with.
Pat "Don't ever take sides against the family" Riley 😂
@@aedaed3605some Godfather type shii
The Warriors organization are the biggest Draymond Green enablers
Well!! Shams was right about everything!! lol suspending him makes things even worse!! 😂
Not really. If you've seen the last two games he's been holding the team back. It's best to keep him away for the time being.
Jimmy doesnt even play a full season
@@anthonycamejo528they have to trade him or have him sit the rest of the season… he should be traded soon
are you a bot?
@@anthonycamejo528 the type of suspension Butler received is supposed to be for really bad behavior like what Green did to Poole, or for just not showing up entirely. Butler has always showed up, and always practiced and played when he was available. The Heat are CHOOSING to use Butler less cuz they are petty about him wanting to leave. The suspension money Butler will probably get back after the grievance process goes thru, but that can take a looong time.
They named a fine specifically after Ben Simmons. Huh... So all the people who thought that Ben Simmons would leave an ever lasting mark on the league were right.
😂
And I don't know if it was true that Simmons got most of his money back. Sixers gave in and he definitely got significant $ back, but easily could have lost around 10 M in the end. And Sixers probably gave in because it could have come out that they knew Ben had a bad back, despite claiming he got better after physical therapy. Remember he would later be diagnosed with a disc herniation once he ramped up with the Nets.
He’s 35. He has a 50+ million dollar cap number for next year. It’s a divorce that needs to happen. Pat Riley for all accounts doesn’t tolerate this type of behavior. The thing is, each club knows he’s not happy so they’ll offer less in exchange.
I kinda think Pat Riley needs to go. Like LeBron left cuz he is too overbearing. Like Miami SHOULD be an ideal location for free agents, but they aren't cuz nobody wants to get yelled at all the dang time 😂 if they can help it. The Heat has a blue collar, hard working culture expressly because they can't attract top tier talent because of said culture.
Sure don’t blame Riley at all for putting Jimmy on blast in front of the media instead of speaking to him separately when he made the comment about the Celtics. When your boss embarrasses you like that things will never be the same. Pat needs to take accountability…it’s not always the players.
@LyricalMurderer1 Riley might be getting cranky in his old age lol
@@zacharybarker9991Then said culture isn't for the Charmin soft beta types. Imagine getting paid $50+ million a year but can't handle the heat...pun fully intended.
Thank you….. you get it
Pat literally signed Jimmy to a max contract extension in 2021 and knew he would be signing up for the declining years of Jimmy's career and fully aware of his past injury issues. Not to mention, Jimmy would most certainly ask for another extension, and Pat knew he wouldn't want to give him max money again.
Given Jimmy's 3-team prior history of acting out when he doesn't get the contact he wants, Pat should've traded Jimmy before this season so this mess wouldn't happen to the team this season
And somehow none of that is worse than Herro getting thrown on the ground 😂
@@clipcorleone_7thdayfamiliathat was a punk move, Ime needs to teach better defense and ion even like herro
@@clipcorleone_7thdayfamilia ow you are one of those people
If I’m the wolves I go get Jimmy wit ant move Randle and Some pieces
And what’s your point? Just cuz he knew that means he needs to keep giving him extensions? This is a business. Jimmy butler is not worth that money and pat riley is smart for not giving it to him.
Thanks Bobby!! I’m sick of people acting like Miami will just take Beal to get rid of Butler.
Yeah Miami will just let Butler sit on the bench than get Beal. Beals contract is till 26 lol. If his contract was running out thats fine. And Beal is a worst player than Jimmy
@@danieldelgado8601Beal has a no trade in his contract. He has to okay any trade. So if the Hornets, for example, are willing to take Beal's contract and he doesn't want to go, it doesn't happen. Miami is not taking back a bad contract. They don't have to trade him. If Butler opts out in the off-season, his contract comes off the books. Unless its expiring contracts/picks and/or a young player the Heat want, there's no reason for the Heat to trade him..
I never realized how old Jimmy was till today
Bro should be retiring yet he wants a Max extension. This coming from a guy who doesn't take the regular season seriously and might give you 50 games
@@ThomasTheTankEngine22💯It’s ridiculous.
Me either
@@ThomasTheTankEngine22retiring? c'mon
Average retirement age is between 34-37 yrs old. He got Tibbs miles on him too.
Yall should post these with pop up captions when discussing important terminology and contractual terms
lmaoo so basically Jimmy has no market 🤣🤣
No one is touching that player options next year.
Nor should he. He’s been a troublemaker in the league for a very long time. Now he’s 35 and washed up. I can’t imagine anyone wants to touch him.
Hes 35 now, 36 next season. Coasts in the regular season, it’s getting harder and harder to justify a max contract…
There’s a market. It’s small but it’s there.
Dame Lillard goes to Miami like he wanted originally to play with his friend Bam. Let’s be real, he doesn’t want to be in Milwaukee and he’s having a tough time adjusting to being the #2 guy. In Miami, he will get the ball in his hands and he’ll be happy.
Jimmy returns to his Alma Mater Marquette to play with Bucks. Milwaukee is notorious for giving all their players options. Example, Lopez, Middleton, Pat Connaughton all have extensions. Plus the Bucks are in a win now mode. Jimmy gets an opportunity to prove he deserves an extension. Doc Rivers not really an X’s and O’s Coach but great at managing personalities.
Lastly, Trade Machine likes it. 😬
@ okay i actually love this trade scenario, but i don’t think pat and micky will do it 😭 most times stars are sent to the opposite conference no? im expecting him to go west if he’s moved.
The new CBA makes this a lot harder than ever, and Jimmy is about to find that out.
His money guaranteed. The Heat are about to find out. Should have traded him in the off season
@ you’re not getting g what I’m trying to say. The cap restrictions implemented this year make it harder than ever to match up the money for a trade. That’s what I’m referring to
@@justGSquared I get that. But You implied that it was bad for Jimmy. Who do you think is going to be worst off after this? Jimmy is a player. Personnel and contracts are the front offices responsibility
@ I didn’t imply anything. Don’t assume. It IS bad for the team trying to find a trade partner.
@@justGSquared "jimmy is about to find that out" one can infer by that statement you're saying its bad for jimmy. In reality, its not great for jimmy (fewer trade partners) but he can still find a landing spot that will pay him. The heat are in worse position given their lack of leverage in any trade deal.
Bradley Beal one of the worst contracts in NBA history this guy sucks most of the time and every once in a while he’ll have a good game or he’ll be injured. He’s gonna get the vet minimum after this contract is over.
That has absolutely have nothing to do with this video or Jimmy Butler.....so get outta here with that dumb comment please and thank you
@doin2much720 Is that you Bradley
@@doin2much720You shut up ninja 🫵🏽🫵🏽That’s faxx what he saying 🤨
Lol ninja
@@mikesito1936 Watch your mouth when you talking to me......I state faxt here....this video has nothing to do about Bradley Beal so mind your business
Jimmy Butler is on his way out of the Association. Mark these word's.
Next stop … Podcasting !
You nqqas crazy it’s some desperate teams out there😂
Yeah.. in like a few years and after at least one more contract
Honestly I don't think Jimmy even was being disrespectful. News out even pointed out he and his camp didn't set any exigence as to places to go. Felt like just a guy voicing his personal issues, not necessarily putting it on the Heat organization.
Honestly, I think that's just Riley taking advantage of the situation to set an example out of Jimmy. Wouldn't be the first time Riley did that to his guys. It's all about being professional as much as it is about not showing any perceived weakness.
Great video, love Bobby’s take
Pat Riley don't play. No player is above the team, the mission of team mangement and the fans who spent their hard earned money to come see the players perform at their best and be competitive.
This Miami Heat and Jimmy Butler relationship is done. The best case scenario may be to trade Jimmy Butler to possibly the Denver Nuggets.
Chicago Bulls, Minnesota Timberwolves, somewhat Philadelphia 76ers and now the Miami Heat. Jimmy Butler has a track record, much like James Harden.
Sleepy Riley is all pride no work
@@ronito346facts has done ish since LeBron
Spurs should offer Tre Jones and Vassell
Raptors should make a bid. Offer Gradey, Brown, Mitchell and Boucher
Yeah he’s definitely gone now and him and pat’s relationship may be gone as well
Jimmy quit on his Team, there no excuse for this
Yep and he’s shown throughout his career he’s selfish and willing to bring the team down with him if he’s unhappy. No team should feel motivated to pay this guy the money he wants.
What's he supposed to do when they don't want ti extend his contract? This is a business, kid and Jimmy made a business decision.
@@peytonspehn6291use your brain he took those bums to the finals twice and every team he was on imploded after he left and was poorly run.
It’s sad when you see players do this. That’s why I’m glad I’m a huge Celtics fan. Danny ainge drafted our two stars and built the team around them. I know other players do it but man it’s getting out of control. The league needs to make some rules about this. Even in baseball dodgers were able to spend more money than God to win a championship
I’m a mavericks fan and I’m glad we’ve been drafting better
You act like Jalen Brown wasnt in the verge to ask out at some point. Yall won champ. That fixes all
What exactly are you advocating for? Rules about players demanding trades?
You're rambling and interjecting points about the Dodgers that make no sense.
@ honestly I am rambling because I’m still pissed what they did with all that money and how they were even allowed to do it, but it does sort of makes sense with this situation. Players are allowed to do whatever they want and MLB owners can spend more money than God and then be allowed to sign the two best free agents available before anyone else gets a chance at the second best available free agent. Yes it is a different topic so I will give you that. I don’t know why I even talked about it lol
As a Rockets fan I’m begging please don’t pursue Jimmy Butler
We won't
If they take the corpse of Steven Adams I’ll take him but not for much more other than salary filler. Last night against the Celtics shows we do actually need a player of his calibre
@@WildlifeOutlaw1066 with the right coaching and development we literally already have 2 guys that can become that, just gotta be patient they’re still young. We were literally the worse team in the league 2 years ago and look where we at now without having a all star caliber player
I don’t like how we not calling out Pat Riley as much as we are Jimmy Butler. Yea Butler has a track record, but are we going to mention Pat’s record too? There’s been issues with every star player he has had dating back to Shaq why is that ? So every star player you get is childish and spoiled ? Come on man that’s bs and yall know it
You mean how he managed two of the biggest egos in the league (Shaq and lebron) and gave them their promised rings?
If he wasn't in Miami, no one would want to play for Riley
Pat Riley set a structure for the Heat. You're getting paid as a player. $48 M for you to play and not act like a kid and someone just took your Skittles.
Pat's job is to make tough decisions. If he gives Butler a max extension then it will hurt the team more.
Butler did something which he got 7 games suspension. This is not just out of the blue... They probably had a conversation already yet Butler do what he does.
So Riley put the hammer down and take control. This is what leadership is all about. This is what a structure is all about.
You don't let a single player control your organization.
There's only 450 players who plays in the league. It's idiotic to say no one would play for Heat.
LaMelo Ball even said after he played Lithuania.. he don't care which team choose him as long as he's in NBA !
hes team first these players are childish and spoiled millionaires hes literally crying in the media saying hes unhappy balling bc he wants to request a trade LOLLL like stop shaq was also a huge baby hence him being traded and kobe being in la for his entire career so jus stop with its pat riley, pat riley is no bs person so jimmy can take his antics elsewhere once again i mean if every team gets rid of him how are you gonna blame pat riley do you lack critical thinking completely like what
You kids think the nba started in 2011. This is PAT REILLY!!!!!!! YOU SILLY KIDS😂😂😂
All you frauds and bootlickers talking about Jimmy’s “track record” seem to forget all the Finals he led the team to.
Jimmy is a journeyman. He will never get his jersey retired anywhere. He will go to another team with his bad energy and mess up the chemistry. This was unprofessional on his part and he quit on his team.
Yeah and the crazy thing is........ he was absolutely in line to get his jersey retired in Miami but that's over now
@corpyhogan4433 He should still get retired. He had one of the most amazing runs in Heat history. Everything but a title.
Hardaway got his jersey retired jimmy absolutely should get his jersey retired by the heat
@@Zirc0 Hardaway didn’t have a foul exit with the Heat
Why would he go to another team "with his bad energy and mess up the chemistry"? Did you forget the significant Heat playoff runs that he was a key part of?
Sham’s was right all along.
Jimmy Butler is one of the prime examples of why the soft cap is killing the NBA. The Heat knew it was bad to pay Jimmy Butler as much as they did for his age. Now they can't trade him because nobody else wants to over pay him or doesn't have room with the aprons. The Heat, knowing it was bad, still paid him. Because letting him walk would not have left them cap space to replace him with a free agent. With the aprons in place, acting like the real salary cap, the 165 million soft cap should be abolished. all that it does is force teams who can't afford to let guys walk away for nothing, sign non max contract guys to max contracts. Jamaal Murray wouldn't have gotten his big bag if it wasn't for the soft cap. Brandon Ingram and Johnathan Kuminga are going to force their teams into bad contracts or let them walk for nothing because of the soft cap. If the soft cap was gone, teams could let those guys walk and use their previous contract money to replenish. As long as they are under the apron, it's not an advantage. It doesn't favor large market teams. The soft cap has been bad for the league, and with the apron's it's flat out terrible.
half these bums are overpaid
@@Breavisread the paragraph again
Who could have thought overpaying these bums were a good idea.
Letting players walk for nothing will be common occurrence from now on. Teams would rather save money than overpaying an underwhelming player.
"letting him walk would not have left them cap space to replace him with a free agent."
Which is fine if the Heat front office could just agree to save on their tax bill for a bit and develop the young players they currently have, rather than fruitlessly trying to immediately compete for a championship without Butler (as if they were even going to do so *with* age 35+ Butler and the current payroll!).
That said, if they could come up with a particular *trade* like the following, they could also create some flexibility:
If Miami could trade Butler without taking back salary in return, it would leave the team with a trade exception equal to whatever Butler will be making in the first season of his new contract, along with a non-taxpayer mid-level exception worth $14.1MM and the $5.1MM bi-annual exception.
Heading to Dallas
Bobby reminds me so much of George Costanza 😄
send him to the Jazz for Markannen and Clarkson
Then waive him and let teams pick him off waivers.
why would the jazz want him? they're not ready to compete yet and trading away markannen for some draft picks or young talent makes way more sense
Not possible
You can’t fleece Danny Ainge😂
markkanen can't be traded this season due to his extension
Old, expensive, difficult … not a great trade commodity
he can still hoop and STOP cause if he was to die at 35 you would say he died young...35 ain't old
Right!
Don't forget injury prone.
@@ahrenb3393except 99 percent of players are out of the league before they're 40. Do most people die by the time they're 40. Thanks for the horrific analogy. 👏
@@ahrenb3393you know good and well they talking about old in the world of basketball, you Stop.
Great breakdown
Y’all really forgetting that the only reason Jimmy doesn’t have a ring is because of LeBron. Bro made EVERY team better.
Draymond Green x Jimmy Butler battle Royale. Sign me up
Well the facts are the Heat have been to 7 finals appearances. Jimmy has taken them to two. I would suggest that he deserves his extension and he could have sure used some help! Bam is average, Herro is average and Jimmy is 35 so he could use another solid scorer. I will also suggest he will be hard to trade based on his salary, age, and what’s available to get back. He might have to tough it out this season and opt out. Love to see him go to the Nuggets and get a chip, but I like Jr better for many reasons and I wouldn’t let him go if I were the nuggets.
You never keep a disgruntled employee!! He doesn’t want to be in Miami!
@ Now he doesn’t, can’t blame him, he carried that team with little help.
more minutes for Pelle Larsson
Yesss!!!
Good! Also, more minutes for Jaime.
@@mmortal03man, he is playing so bad
He's finding his way...actually been good last few games
@@andresovalleromero2792 Jaime's been struggling, no doubt. I think he can figure it out, though.
Jimmy Butler is incredibly selfish for acting like this. Bro you are getting over 40+ MILLION DOLLARS TO PLAY BASKETBALL. And you decide you want to purposely not utilize your talents when you’re on the floor. Players simply have too much power in today’s game and this is just another example. All he is doing is leaving a bad taste in fans mouth.
Yooo What???
Wooooww they did Jimmy raw all because the man said he couldn't see himself in Miami they suspended him that look so petty on pat riely part this should speak volumes
guess the heat can't suspend riley after he told jimmy to shut his mouth. that's pretty detrimental.
He should’ve shut his mouth. How are you gonna brag about how much better you are than your team? Stop simping for a guy throwing a temper tantrum well making 50 mill a year to play basketball
@@kylemckenzie5127 did the league buy you too, or you just like SAS that much?
Well said 👏
@@kylemckenzie5127most of the jimmy Stan’s are more concerned with him not being the main guy than actually building team chemistry
Facts
The Heat failed Jimmy
Miami's trippin this was handled horribly
Not it wasn’t, it was handled perfectly.
@@1Dolfan305 your an idiot if you really believe that. Jimmy is still gonna collect his checks while he awaits his next team. The Heat will continue to be mid to bad, with no real way to compete this season and probably next season too. If they let him opt out in the offseason they'll have lost him for jack sh!t. Heat handled this horribly.
Insubordination will not be tolerated Jimmy did all he could do 3 eastern conference finals trips and 2 finals appearances in 4 years with these mid players
What did he do?
He was being a bad boi
@@Smoke.Official😂😂
pretty much said he hates miami and will play for literally any other team
He was crying about not getting his extension. Typical soft players crying about money.
Publicly said in the interview he didn’t want to be there anymore while
Bless you, Bobby Marks; buy out of season!
Jimmy probably doesn't get traded this season and opts out of his contract this offseason and signs a 2+1 for 100 million with the 3rd year being a team option.
I hope Jimmy finds a good landing spot and gets all his money back.
he will! Truss
Lucky dude to avoid a road trip he didn't want to be on anyhow. The money he'll get back, but it shows other players how nasty the Heat will make it for anyone who doesn't jump when they say, "Jump!"
Free Jimmy
He is an expensive, old, difficult player. Who wants him?
@ was he difficult during the two trips to the finals? How about the 3 trips to ECF? Jimmy has stated that he is not for everyone, he acknowledges that. The front office of the Heat are starting up that narrative again to deter away the teams that he wants to be traded to.
@@a1hernandez30I think he probably was but he was younger and worth the headaches. He isn’t the player he used to be, doesn’t have the leverage he used to.
Only way Suns getting butler is if Beal waives that trade clause 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣don’t matter which team takes on his contract if he don’t wanna go he not going 🤔🤔🤔
Pat Riley does not believe in public drama!
Jimmy is right
It’s really hard to feel sorry for someone making $50mil a year
they’re going to have get a new nba espn song “jimmy with the heat i’m on fire” 😂
ironic they still play the jimmy heat as the outro song
As a Mavs fan, I'd offer Jaden Hardy, maybe Omax if they want him. Maxi Kleber and Dwight Powell for salary purposes. Our 25 first, and *MAYBE* a pick swap down the line, or a couple second rounders instead.
If Miami can get a better deal elsewhere, then good on them. Hardy has talent and needs playing time, but he won't get it consistently behind Luka and Kyrie. I'd only be interested in keeping Jimmy for the rest of this season and a playoff run anyways. We are so banged up right now, we need a jump start.
I also wouldn't touch any of our core role players (PJ, Gafford, Naji etc)
Bro, it's 35, getting paid way too much, and is difficult. He'd be fortunate if he doesn't get the Melo treatment
Y’all are crazy for even wanting him in Dallas!!
Old Grandma sleepy Pat can't sign any big name free agents, and the only one that he has Pat drives them away. After this, no superstars would want to play for the Heat organization
What EXACTLY was the conduct, saying he wanted to be traded? This sounds like they just want him to shut up and play.
That’s exactly what it is, pat Riley won’t shut up but thinks his players should
Have you watched this season?
EXACTLY! Well said. You're one of the people who isn't an idiot like most people following this situation.
Jimmy publicly said he didn’t wanna be there anymore while he was still under contract. He essentially forced Pat to trade him
As they should! Jimmy refuses to play a full season and fight for a championship
Of course Shams was right. He would not risk his credibility and career for lying on a max player.? He is the boss insider now.
Some kind of trade will pretty much have to involve the Pistons. Should be an interesting next week or two
Pat should retire his ego!
That's the real problem .. noone wanna say it this ain't the 80's or 90's . Players have too many options now
Suspended your best player. 🤦🏾♂️ just trade the man and get the hell on with the rebuilding
They’ll probably trade Butler but suspending him at least keeps Jimmy outta the locker room while they look for a trade partner and not have him be as big of a distraction to the rest of the team.
@juancros6544 understandable
No ones signing a 36 year old Butler to a long term, high money deal next year. He should take his player option. Last big pay day he's getting.
Jimmy to the Shanghai Sharks
Heat looking funny in the light
You, my guy, lose all credibility saying butler is acting out when the organization was the one trying to shop him around behind the scenes and want to back track. Now this guy is saying well screw it I want to leave he’s the one that’s the villain now
Pat should hold them for the remainder of his contract stop letting players bully their way out of every situation they don’t like
Shut up DlCK sucka and ya research ….. Miami in the wrong duck 🦆 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Suspended him whole season because he doesn't contribute much points..
And just let them have a $55M cap hit against them next year which upholds their capspace? Thats a disservice to the fans. Just trade him and be done with it
Gonna hold him and pay him to not play?
You think this is still the days of slavery. You need to be taught a lesson 💯. STOP THINKING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BRING BACK SLAVERY, BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME?
Only the slow people that don't know anything will say Pat should keep him. Unhappy players don't produce
I wouldn't trade him, he'd sit on the bench before I would be bullied to trade him and he's always injured anyway. And name teams that would take on his contract, knowing he's going to want another extension soon. He just made his own situation worse with that interview, he's bad chemistry for any team now.
@@goodymob9638 then they would lose him for nothing. Doesn't seem very smart to be vindictive
By far my favorite Heat moments are from this man, never gonna hate him for anything.
Track record? ESPN already pushing a bs narrative
It's not a narrative, it's a trend.
I don't understand... They aren't interested in Butler but they don't wanna trade him either? Why?
Age and contract demands makes it difficult to find trade partners
And tryna get things of value back lol they ain’t gonna find a dude who brought them to the finals twice either 😂😂
You come at Pat Riley you best not miss. Jim Butts missed.
Because nobody wants him... Suns are interested, but nobody wants Beal, and that's it)
Butler has 6months 50mln contract, very hard to trade this nonsense fast
The NBA really has to set it's rule..Jimmy makes millions and millions and signed a contract just honor it dude..
Not only was Shams right, Pat was right. He said play more and we'll pay...Jimmy has played 1/3 of games🥲
Butler is figuratively getting the Nicky Santoro treatment.
Largest team suspension? Meanwhile Ja Morant last year 25 games 💀 check your stats bro
I _believe_ that Adam Silver himself suspended Ja Morant.
Pat Riley suspended Jimmy.
Differences in authority. Adam's the Heat's boss' boss.
@ ic thx
Another old guy lost touch with reality. Imagine treating your #1 like this
But there's the problem...he's not the no.1...that's been Tyler since last playoffs.
Love Jimmy but he aint getting any max deal anywhere next year.
This is also bad for the Heat. Think Luka would wanna go to the Heat with how they treat their stars on the backend?
Jimmy does this everywhere...it's kinda his thing. I highly doubt this scares off other players😅
PR has to go almost 30 years of pissed off players. This old guy talking in this video is saying that PR is right because of JB getting out of chi minn. This guy is a joke
Being suspended for 7 games for saying you want to be traded is crazy. It's like getting fired when you give your employer your 60-day notice because you accepted a job elsewhere. Like you don't just stop working for your current employer just because you're moving on to a new job in 60 days.
You've got the priorities mixed up here. You don't get to *publicly* say things negative/divisive to the press regarding your employer with no consequences, especially if your employer is already contractually obligated to pay you millions upon millions of dollars to do the job they pay you to do. It's not a worker's right to just say whatever you want to the press about your employer. It's not like getting fired -- he's under a long term, guaranteed contract, and has a player option for next year. Specific to the NBA, they don't want players to publicly request trades when almost all players are under guaranteed contracts. The NBA wants discussions to occur internally, not publicly.
@@mmortal03 No, I 100% agree with you. But Magic wasn't suspended when he asked to be traded from the Lakers, was he? Heat could have cited 'personal reasons' for Jimmy being away from the team and not playing, rather than a suspension. Also, it is unlike Spoelstra to not run plays for Jimmy Butler. Like they've been saying - he was standing in the corner for most part of the game vs Pacers and NOLA. This was the reason why Jimmy went to the media in the first place.
@@mangesh9034305 Jimmy wanted to keep playing to continue getting paid until he was traded, while also saying what he said publicly. The Heat weren't going to give him paid leave after that.
Butler for Brandon Ingram
Great fire by Sacramento. In today’s NBA, players respond to ex players Doug Christie is exactly what the Kings need leading them
You said Stromile Swift got most his money back after his grievance, and That he lost a good chunk of change.
Sounds like he acted a fool and got his money back so there was NO significant repercussions?
Precisely. Bobby talks outta both sides of his mouth often. He couldn't even get Jimmy's fine amount right when he first reported it
Morant was suspended 25 games by the league
Phx should do it
Denver needs to step in and offer either Murray or Porter Jr. for Butler.
Tf lmao you must hate the nuggets
Denver cant win without Murray, fact.
@@Layon_Kingbutler does not make their situation better
Murray signed an extension in the offseason. He can’t be traded yet.
You r nugget hater🤪🤣
Simons and Rob-Will for butler. Heat will get a replacement scorer in simons and a back up center behind bam. Blazers get a real wing to play along scoot, sharpe, and ayton.
Blazers will have a lot of growing with scoot but a line up like
Scoot
Sharpe
Butler
Grant
Ayton
Would be decent the only thing is scoot is more of a backup pg. So it may take a year or 2 of butler coaching him
Don’t do that to Portland! Remember Minnesota when they were in the same position as Portland and the wolves brought in Butler? How did that turn out? Not good!
Jimmy to the rockets
Think Butler ends up staying. I can't see a deal that makes sense for Miami, they don't want to take back long term money and due to Butlers salary it is almost impossible for a successful trade to take place without a player on long term big money, especially with the new CBA. Maybe the Rockets with FVVs 40m team option in 2025/26
If you don't think Jimmy gets traded, then what happens? I understand he would deny his player option and walk into free agency, but between now and then? He just doesn't come back? He's definitely not playing another game there after this.
You know that Riley and the Heat are going to stretch this out. They will keep away from the team and make him wait until the deadline.
You're corny for this Bobby....
they're gonna have to change "jimmy with the heat im on fire" in the outro lol
Pretty sure Jimmy suspended them first.
Say what you want about Jimmy, but lets keep it 100 here. Pat brought in an aging Kyle Lowery and Terry Rozier. Every time a player started to play above their paygrade (Gabe Vincent, Caleb Martin, Derrick Jones Jr., ect.) Pat just let them walk and didn't try to retain them. Jimmy honestly does seem like a Diva right now, but the man deserves to be a little pissed off. I mean what has Pat done to help them win a chip in the last 5 years.
He's going to the Suns. Suns and Heat are working out the details
Heat ain't taking Beal. Suns ain't happening.
He should go to Minny
@@dennislopez1272and Beal has a no trade clause
@dennislopez1272 At this point its their best option. Butler won't play another game for the Heat
It's very possible that he'll opt in to the $50m next year and then be on a vet minimum on a contender like Westbrook from there on. His best days are done and at this point he isn't worth giving up young players or picks. He also has a long list of clubs where he has left on poor terms.
what did he actually do tho?
Lmao the NBPA will win this easily 😂 all jimmy did was answer reporters questions 😂
That's what I'm saying. This suspension is just them being mad and vindictive. Come to find out players usually get most of their money back after filing a grievance 😂
2 million dollars is not a chunk of change. That’s 2 million dollars 😒
It’s strange that Jimmy saying he wouldn’t be able to find joy on the court in Miami is a distraction to the team.
Also why not the Bucks or the Spurs
@@AnthonyTaylorJr210 ok if that was your teammate would you feel comfortable playing with a teammate that gives up on the team???
@@AnthonyTaylorJr210 also not the bucks or spurs cus of money and contracts buddy, I really hope you do learn something today like for real 😬
Jimmy tried to FIGHT Eric Spoelstra during practice/during the game😂😂😂 Jimmy is like 0-9 vs Spoelstra
As a Heat fan...I'm glad he's leaving....we need another star that can play the entire season not missing 17/20 games!!...we can Do the Warrior or Jazz trade according to the rumors.