An Editor Rewrites the Battle of Winterfell (Part 3)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.พ. 2025
- For part three of this video series, we will be looking at the character conflict edits, where are main characters are directly involved in the conflict of the battle. Come check it out!
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Game of thrones: a show that’s gotten so shitty we have to write it ourselves.
Fact.
We'll make our own Game of Thrones with blackjack and hookers
You're so right about the undead dragon and his mother. Would have made for such compelling and emotional tv
4:57 "Having Jorah fight a bear alongside (Lyanna) to the death is much more thematically sound than having a giant try to use her as a telescope."
I literally did a spit-take.
Love Thormund taking out the Giant and Jorah taking out the bear. Those are great ideas.
Bit obvious though. Let’s have The Hound kill a hound. Let’s have the Mountain die on a mountain. Let’s have the three eyed raven be killed by ravens.
Tayce Sells We should have Jon Snow be KILLED BY SNOW!!!! 😃😃
So so good. How on earth did they miss this gem?
X X Cersei Lannister, killed by a bannister
Dead Starks fighting for the living - this is exactly what I was hoping for before the episode! Glad I wasn't the only one who thought this ought to have happened.
Savage Books: "No amount of verbal descriptions [...] can properly convey how cool a fight between three dragons is."
GRRM: "Hold my beer."
"Depending on how sentimental you wanna get, you could even throw Sean Bean into the scene as an undead Ned Stark."
...Without a head?
Yooooooooooo the dead starks fighting for the good guys is WAAAAAAAAAY cooler
Thats the greatest channel name Ive ever seen lmao
@@Adam0l Thank you for the compliment! Glad you like it!
Wow you are everywhere I look :o
@@brunohirschmann u must have good taste
Oh, my gahd... I was like, 'Hunter x Hunter? Good anime, buuuut...' And then I clicked on it. 😔
Damnn, @savagebooks your treatment of Theon and his redemption arc coming full circle gave me chills. As a recent subscriber, thank you so much for this rewrite. I look forward to the rest.
"She's like twelve so shouldn't be fighting alone". That's right, pre pubescent female child soldiers are fine, but they must be supervised!
Lyanna: "I need an adult"
Ice Giant: "I am an adult"
@@havardmj
I am inevitable.
@@havardmj 😂
Well, I mean... Robb had guards in battle... 🤷
It's not like anyone could have kept her from the fight....
A giant, a bear AND Sean "I'm gonna die again" Bean...well there goes season 8's budget! Keep 'em coming though, love these videos.
Love the addition is Dany coming to grips with killing her dragon. Wish they did that in the show!
Wow! You gave both Theon AND Melisandre way more purpose with one simple change to the crypt scene. That is efficient writing, sir.
Theon’s “Edit”...I mean...Wow!!! Incredible and so much better then the TV version, especially the part about his blood being the catalyst to bring back the Starks, which I thought was the worst part of TV episode (aside from the obvious: Arya killing the “Night King” 🤦🏻♂️)
Not only was the crypts scene lazy writing, the fact that it meant the Starks would come back as Wights was an absolute atrocity to the story and the Stark name
As far as I'm concerned, this is how the episode went.
This was really well made and entertaining all the way through, great work mate
Bold move to reanimate the Starks but I think it could work
Wow. WOW. That theon arc is SO SICK
Missed opportunities. Dude if this was how things played out I would have been an emotional wreck for the whole next week instead of laughing at it with my friend DURING the first watching.
You have some good edits here, and I respect you for it. I think GRRM would say so, too. I honestly do.
This one,plus the background of the actual show and the last two edits,had me teary eyed and emotional. Which speaks volumes of what a "simple" edit can do
Throughout these videos so far, I kept shouting "That's so cool!" and "That makes so much sense!"
Awesome edits, man! Can't wait for the next one!
There should be 4-5 Undead giants since we saw more Undead giants and no Bears..
You did a really GOOD job rewritting this abomination of an episode so far man!
The crypts edit was brilliant! Put a tear in my eye.
Gods, how I wish the showrunners were not utterly brain-dead.
Edit: how I wish I was not utterly braindead
@Tayce Sells Thanks for pointing that out, edited.
The crypt scene is amazing. Absolutely brilliant and exactly what is needed to at least incorporate some of the lore and history of the Starks as guardians of the North. Well done!
Loving this video series so far, and I especially love the Mormonts vs the Bear addition, that is pure genius. I'm not sure if I like the Theon change though if I'm totally honest.
I thought the original fighting to protect the person he captured Winterfell from, and getting the confirmation he needed that he is a good man from that person was important. His choice to guard the central objective of the Night King rather than someone in the supposed safe area showed he wasn't going to run from the fight anymore. Also his death was already kinda perfect. He knew he was going to die, and seeing as Arya would come in later (although I wager this will need fixing in the next video) they had already lost from his perspective, so in reality he had nothing left to fight for. But he bravely charged his death anyway because it was the right thing to do. There were many issues with the episode but Theon was one of the few aspects I thought they got right
Yeah, I liked the Theon role, but the way he charged with no effort was stupid in hindsight. Bran himself could have moved out of the way of his charge to death. He should have done a really cool, highly technical move and been countered by The Night King.
I listened to a similar edit blog (sorry forgotten who) who had Theon almost killed by the night king, but then stab the night king in the leg to provide the opening for Arya (a concept taken from JRRT's battle outside Gondor) to deliver the killing blow. Although quite derivative, it works better than what was shown by D&D
To tell you the truth, I was not a fan of the way it happened with Theon's death on the show, he came off like some weak dumb fool. He went from being Ramsey's dog to the Stark's dog. At least in the crypt he was useful. I think GoT have gone too much into sentimentality.
"A giant trying to use her as a telescope"
I’m not crying, you’re crying... this edit was so beautiful. Loved the first two videos but man... Theon deserved this.
So glad I found your videos! They've been the best part of season 8 by far.
it doesn't take an editor to rewrite that shitshow.
i think just about anyone could have done a better job than D&D have
yea
i have watched over 50 rewrites and thus far this was all around the best of them all, most rewrites hype their desired aspect ignoring the others but what im seeing here is well thought, turmond, jorah, theon, danny all perfect, plus mel is always ignored or booked shitty, you did great with her
That ending to Theon with the Starks would've been awesome, too bad when you play the game of budgets you win or you get cut
But Ned doesn’t have a head
Dude, using Theon's blood to raise a bunch of fire-wight Starks is the most poetic, badass shit I've heard in any of the videos I've watched. God, that's fucking perfect.
Bro don’t be like GRRM! Finish the last few videos to this series. I love these bro. You did a great job rewriting.
So I literally found your channel today and I absolutely love it. Keep up the great work.
Thanks man!
I don’t think he really means it. Look at his name.
Jokes on him, I don't know what sarcasm is!
The idea of the dead Starks fighting one last time for Winterfell gave me fucking chills just thinking about it. Would've been such a nice twist and badass moment. Very well done video series, but now it's hurts only more...
Just discovered you, and I'm really liking your approach. So much that I bought a copy of Heart of Woe; excited to read it! So many people are saying that they could do better than the show runners, but few actually put pen to paper.
That Theon rewrite gave me goosebumps.
Wow!
Your edits were really good. I'm impressed. Like your version was so much better!
Theon and the dead stark edits were the best so far! Good call.
Thank you for being the only person I've seen to remember burning oil and pitch were used as castle defense tactics.
I got shivers when you said about that undead Ned Stark.... omg, I can't even properly imagine how legendary that could've been.
Full out war.. And everyone in winterfell is just chilling after the initial attack. No one was even manning the walls until lady mormont etc started screaming "man the walls". Worst moment ever.
I love these edits, Dany fighting against undead Viserion, Theon's heroic death while protecting Sansa, Tormund killing the giant wight. and Jorah & Lyanna Mormont of Bear Island killing the wight bear. It would've been much more symbolic emotional and awesome to see.
This made me cry, just thinking about how emotional things could’ve been, with Danny and Sam, then Theon and even the starks coming back, I wish it was like that, and i get goosebumps just thinking how amazing that would’ve been
1:57 “without anyone else present”
No love for Drogon?? D;
Two small things I'd change about your edits:
1- Archers, please archers. Archers are probably the most important troops on a siege defense, especially when fighting unorganised enemies that can't defend against the arrows.
2- Keep the oil, ditch the fire arrows, these aren't a real thing, they absolutely do not work.(this is more of nitpick, not that important, really)
Got chills hearing this, it's a great idea to improve on the episode without changing the entire story altogether while staying true to the characters and not giving too much development that changes the narrative
Seriously love these edits
I applaud you for your great editing work!
I would have loved the episode that far :)
I've been fine with a number of your edits, and enjoy them. The change to Theon and Melisandre being in the crypts, and her bring the Starks of Old back and fighting for the living, is a little too Tolkien. As GRRM even said, A Song of Ice and Fire was born out of various things he didn't like about LoTR.
There's just one problem with your depiction of Sam taking up Heartsbane and leaving the crypt: you already had Sam turn the sword over to Ser Jorah in an earlier scene.
This is beautiful. And you'd have make D&D very happy with bringing back the zombie bear 😅
10:00
Holy ...
I wish you had been on the writing team for this show.
Hitting those feels pretty hard.
Well done. I teared up at Theon's death. Nice twist.
Damn, my dude. I wish you could have written this dammed show. This is rock solid.
Letting Lyanna dying in front of Jorah by fighting side by side would totally destroy Jorah's character, he would rather sacrifice himself to save the future of the House Mormont.
Wow man. I was feeling uncertain about your theons arc. But that was meaningful considering his dreams in books too.
A man deserves a subscription for such hard work
I just misheard "tearfully" for "cheerfully" and had a stroke
OMG - LOVE Theon's death in the crypts. Gave me chills!
I literally almost cheered when you bought the Starks back.
😂😂OMG, this was legitimately better than the entirety of seasons seven and eight combined
Splendid job good sire! Don't forget Bran to pull something OP
The tragedy of the wights though is that even your loved ones will turn on you. That they’re soulless murder puppets now. That wouldn’t have been it for me. Theon’s king blood might’ve been a good thing to have some other magic though, like a shadow baby or some other kind of blood magic phenomenon to have Mel actually save people or make some kind of fire barrier or some shit. Idk.
Melisandre should have birthed some of those shadow monsters to fight the whites. It’s a power she used once in the series and we never seen it again.
As the Night King was moving towards Bran, they should have had Jon snow and the other main characters fighting with the white walkers instead of the white walkers standing there doing nothing. A distance away the Night King should have been walking towards Bran slowly and Bran should have had taken the Night King with his new powers into a different time period like the 3 eyed raven did to him. In that time period you see the knight King still Walking towards Bran but in his original human form. Bran and the night king have dialogue back and forth of what his intentions are. In that dialogue we learn that since the children of the forest changed him into a white walker he can never be apart of the light so he wants to bring darkness to everything the lord of light created. Changing Bran into a white will give him full power of everything the lord of light created including all life; past, present and future.
After the dialog the knight king reaches Bran then we pan back to the present and the night king looks like his white walker self he takes his sword out and strikes at Bran. The sword stops at mid swing and you see that the night Kings sword was blocked by a blade Bran is holding and then Bran gets out of his wheel chair and a sword fight happens. Eventually the night king drives his blade into brands stomach with the blade in his stomach the night king senescing someone behind him turns back and sees another Bran behind him. He then looks at the Bran he has the sword in and that Bran removes his face to reveal it was Arya. Arya dies.
Bran now wargs, but not into a bird but into a dragon and comes up and grabs the night king tossing him far away. Then Bran still in the dragon uses him and other survivors to escape as winterfell falls the white walkers.
I could see sansa about to get attacked by a walker until a resurrected Ned stark kills it but but because he was cremated he's completely covered In fire or made out of it with a small smile on his face before continuing the fight until he sees theon's body and maybe before the sun rises the other starks and jon see him but not a word is said by ned
Having to kill her undead child could have really been emphasized as a moment that pushes her closer to the edge, since they were so set on the transparent dragon nazi mom ending. Fear and pain of loss can drive people to do wild shit to people, even without war or pressure of leading.
Melisandre resurrecting the dead Starks is so perfect holy shit
We need the next episode!! ❤️❤️
Oil dropping from walls is kind of a myth if I'm not mistaken. Boiling oil is a very valuable and rare resource in that kind of time period, so it wouldn't be wasted like that (and they might not have that much on hand).
Awesome video. I especially like Theon's plot
Solidify Theon. I love this edit.
I love the Theon part holy shit that would’ve been epic
Pretty good. But I should think Dead-Ned might find it a bit difficult to defend his home without his head attached.
I've never been as disappointed with an episode as I was with GoT S8-E3 and E4. It's blatently obvious that D&D were bored with the entire project and put the absolute minimum of effort into it. That's not the way to treat devoted fans who've been around since the beginning -- much of the fanfic I've read is a distinct improvement on what was served up on the HBO version.
Thanks for inspiring us to consider writing our own Season 8 scripts!
So, why is it some fan on the internet can write episodes better than... episode writers who get paid millions to do it? This Theon ending is top level writing.
Idk I can't magine everyone seemingly safe in the crypts telling Sam to go out there and fight
I generally like what you're doing--it brings coherence. Two major problems-- 1) You make no systematic use of archers. Archers were the main artillery in the Middle Ages. Whether in the field or defensively on castle ramparts, they were crucial. That's why parapets have arrow slits! Dragonglass arrowheads would have been very effective. 2) One hero is very shortchanged--Arya. She doesn't even get to give a helpful sendoff to her inept sister. Fighting on the walls with her custom weapon, fighting in the corridors. This is exactly what she's been training for since she put on that helmet on in the first episode. Her bullseye back then is important too were illustrative of the invasiveness of the wights and her prowess. She should have been put in charge of the archery contingent. Jon would have reminded her that if WWs come within range, taking them out would take all wights controlled by them. I assume in part 4 you will have her kill the NK after waiting in the godswood. But she should be effectively used in the main battle first. When the time comes she can scurry to the godswood. She knows the secret ways there. Jon can give her a shout or clear a path of wights for her to help, which gives him a role in the climax. Anyway, I look forward to Part 4.
Thank GOD I’m not the only one that thought they skimmed over Dany’s reaction to Viserions death !!!!! We get a line from Bran about it and then they all go about as usual?! What? She’s just learnt her child has been brought back from the dead and being used against her, but we don’t get to see her properly digest that? Smh.
a second bear? the starks turning into good zombies?
I dunno i was on board with everything else
This is fantastic. Absolutely fantastic.
Love the Dany and Viserion moment addition
Oil wasn't commonly used to defend castles. Boiling water and hot sand were though. Of course using boiling water or hot sand wouldn't be effective. That's about the only issue I had here. Your episode edits are beyond the comprehension of D&D and were very enjoyable. Very nice.
The biggest problem with ASOIAF fans is that we're a bit smarter than a casual viewer GoT started pandering too so these amazing edits are bound to happen.
The damage has been done however, I realised something most of my friends didn't or were in the denial - the show truly died in episode 3 and I was furious and miserable for a week and after episode 4, my grief morphed to not giving a shit and being completely empty, I knew what was coming, I knew what those mongoloids D&D were up to... Ugh, anyways, loving these, my edits would be even different than yours and others I've seen but one thing is certain... It's far better than the shitstain we got. Really fucking good twist at the crypts and Viserion, holy shit that's very clever!
You made a much better episode
Personally important edit: Arya doesn't immediately lose her weapon. Let her fight more doing awesome stuff. The wights are endless anyway, so this won't change the outcome of the battle.
alright keep her weapon but no killing the NK
Dude, you gave me chills!
In the climax, there needs to be some way to make the Night King's story more interesting and better reward all that time spent with Bran north of the wall. What was the Three Eye Raven preparing him for? Why was that cave so creepy? Why was he north of the wall when Weirwoods are everywhere? Why does the Three-Eyed Raven musical motif offer underlying sinister tones? Who made the wall? How was the long night ended last time? Why did Old Nan tell Bran not to trust crows? lol.
Not every mystery needs fulfillment. However, 'Elves made bad things' is a very underwhelming character arch for both the Night King, and for Bran. There is good potential for a much-needed shocker here. Good luck. If you run out of ideas, blast him with a box full of dragon glass shards and wildfire, with a little trap door for Bran to fall through.
There's still three hours worth of this to go. Don't assume the Night King storyline is over.
@@ShanghaiRooster I hold out little hope.
@@Uncle_Fred We might find some of those answers in the prequel series. Bloodraven must have known that the Night King would eventually find his way into the cave, so he had to locate a suitable successor, one who wasn't bound to the tree. The cave is full of the remains of deceased Children. The weirwoods are creepy. They need blood to nourish them. It's why Ned Stark always cleaned blood off his sword at the black pool in front of the heart tree at Winterfell. As to why he was north of the Wall, Bloodraven had been in the Night's Watch when he went north and became the three-eyed raven.
Oil was expensive during the medieval period, and wasn't used in siege warfare. It's a huge misconception that comes from god knows where...
However, hot water, or even hot sand coud be thrown down the wall on the attackers for the very same effect
I loved the giant and bear edit, but the whole theon and melisandre stuff just sounds too tumblry for my taste
I think it makes sense. not enough magic has been used in later seasons. this is the kind of stuff the Red Woman would do. especially with the blood of the son of a king
I kinda agree but I feel it would problably translate better on screen. A dead Ned would be stupid as hell though.
yea Ned would have been too much.
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 Not to mention he would have no head.
well they could say they returned his head. like I'm not sure where Cat's body is
I mean it's pretty obvious that the Stark Kings are buried down there for a reason and that they are kept there with magic and the swords are the key to that magic. It's said it's a problem when the swords start to deteriorate. So whether your change is a good one or not the idea that they would be able to be used by the Night King as part of his army is ridiculous. Bran the Builder (who built the wall) would have known about his power to raise the dead and would have put in safeguards against that.
Love your rewrite. I would have the battle starts after 33 days of tiresome defense. How? With Bran using a magic barrier on Winterfell, the same magic we’ve seen used by the children of the forest in previous season...
I do think that Mel's better lighting up the tranche since it was a nice spectacul. All the other stuff I agree with.
yea but the spectacular is not always the best thing. that has been the problem with GoT in recent years, they focus too much on wanting cool visual image that at the end of the day don't mean anything
I freakin love the idea of Undead Starks v. The Wights. Such a shame that the fans are creating more cohesive, entertaining story telling than the original writes lol
This is great. Can't wait to see the ending.
"how cool a fight between three dragons is" except what we got! lol "the stuff of CGi legend" again with the humor!
The starks coming back started getting a little fan fiction-y...
Tomont vs the Giant, I'd endorse. The Mormonts vs the bear on top of that is too on the nose. There should be a moment though when Lyanna has cause to show Jorah that he is forgiven past offences and welcome back to the House.
OMG This was amazing!! I accept this as cannon!
Would have been a pretty cool twist to find out the night king is immune to dragon glass and Valyrian steel.