@@Wolfreiser buddy they did pick the one I liked because I love gm way more than ford. But the fella said himself that he was all for chevy so he is therefore biased
Dixie Strong223 The only hard thing with this is they would more or less have to pick someone who knows virtually nothing about trucks to have a truly unbiased opinion, so how unbiased are you talking? Also my mistake for not catching that you mentioned that you were a Chevy guy.
@@Smitty-op4ld he pulled the handle all the way out he wouldnt be able to do that if it was jammed so yes it looks like the gate was locked. but also it probably was jammed anyway considering the strain damage that was caused to the tailgate. I think it was locked because they were planning to fail it regardless.
@@metalavenger23 you ever had an old pickup? You can pull the handle out on a jammed pickup unless the latch is what's jammed, pressure on the sides of the gate will hold it fast.
except this is an unfair test because ford literally designs their frame to do that to increase the flex in the tires/ suspension so that all 4 tires will still be on the ground and give you traction
The flex is totally normal. If you put an extra 2 ton in the ford's bed , it will bent more but not break. Do the same with your Chevy and the frame is going to fail because it can't handle the flex. Your chevy is like a drill bit, flex it and it will crack somewhere.
That comment makes no sense, so you're saying a more floppy frame is stronger? It's a frame not a noodle! At least you have 34 Ford guys as your comment liking cheerleaders
@Grady Frankovich , that's bs. My family has owned two fords in my lifetime. The first was a '97 F350 XL Crew Cab Dually. Beautiful truck, but we had rebuild the tranny 3 times. The second was an Explorer (I don't know the year). We had it for about 2 years before the engine blew up. I like Ford vehicles, but the drivetrains can't be trusted.
Ford's are supposed to have a flexible frame called A C frame and that lets if you're pulling a trailer or let's most of the back wheels to stay on the ground instead of 6 wheels going up into the freaking air and one on the way sarcastically I say
@@jacksonmeads1161 @Nikolas Fedorko Are you two the guys that were also laughing at Ford for making vehicles out of aluminum alloy when that's exactly what Chevy is doing now?
Omar Flores the biggest problem is all the emissions bs. Especially for guys who only use their HD trucks to ride around town in. I haul with mine across the US and Canada. Working these trucks are the best thing for them.
I have a 79 Ford, and while I don't have any issues with sudden bed denting, I will say that there is enough flex to the frame that you can see the bed/cab offset just from parking on uneven terrain, like next to a tree. Does it bother me? No. Would it be better if it didn't flex? No. The frame is part of the suspension, in my opinion. It's just a great big Model T.
I will speak from experience. I bought a brand new of the lot 2015 Ford F-150 and out of the 7 months I had it, it sent a total of 3 months in the shop being repaired broke down on me constantly and everything you can imagine went wrong. Dealership offered me another one when I told them I wanted to return it to purchase another vehicle and I kindly said no and bought a Chevy Silverado I’ve now had it for 5 years going on 6 and it has not been to the shop once and it runs just as smooth as the day I bought it. That is my unbiased experience with the 2 vehicles.
+sammy duran How about the chevy commercial with the bear and with the steel cage and aluminum cage where everyone went into the steel cage when real bear cages are made of aluminum.
Whitestar Ya pretty funny, what I'm waiting for is for the new aluminum super duties to go through frame twist obstacle, I wonder how they're gunna hold up this time lol
After watching a number of old trucks off road, frame flex appears to make up for the lack of suspension travel in leaf spring suspensions, often resulting in better traction.
Ok now that I’m parked sideways with two opposite side wheels on ramps I’m gonna go unload all the shit in my trunk by opening the tailgate and not grabbing it
Paul Wright No they don’t. Maybe a full size, but mid size and jeeps are where it’s at for rock crawling. And are you blind? Chevy’s reliability is shit. Are you getting your data from JD power, because that is straight bull shit? People pay for those awards.
Paul Wright they say fords are the number one selling truck brand. Do they put Chevy and GMC together in that calculation? GM is by for the best out there.
OK, critical thinking questions: Is the level of stiffness shown here necessary or even good for the longevity of the truck as it is put through the paces of its working life? Alternatively, does a pickup truck's frame need to exhibit some measure of flex / resiliency in order to prevent any type of snapping/shearing or long term metal fatigue? I really don't know the answer here, so I'm genuinely asking.
Well i got a 96 chevy truck with 496k miles on it only replaced intake gasket and wearable parts and of course 4l60e trans . thats 496k of chicago stop and go and driving across kentucky through mountains
CASPER 12345 Is that why Chevy is so much less reliable? Fords are on the ranch because they are tough. Chevys are on the road cause that’s all they can handle.
@@andrewmclamb6984 Lmao the Chevy's frame was definitely bent by the test. The reason the bed flexes is to make sure that the frame doesn't get bent and so that the energy has somewhere to go. Also this test was staged- bolts were loosened in the Ford
the only people that can say that neither o these trucks are any good are dodge fans, because gmc/gm makes/owns chev which is a piece of shit company trying to beat out a great one.
I watched a 2015 ford F150 explode on the interstate next to me as I drove by in my 2004 Chevy 1500. It made my day to know my old truck will last longer than the new trucks out this year.
I am a ford guy and I own a 2000 Ford F-250 7.3 powerstroke, but I have to say the Chevy trucks that were made before the bailout were actually pretty good I still think Ford is better though.
Most people just don't like it because it's a completely new design, but to be honest, even if you don't like the truck or don't like Tesla it should be a good thing that it has so many features. Silverados and f150s have been the same thing for years, but now Tesla is putting pressure on Ford to make more affordable trucks with more features. Cause with a 40k price tag and all the features the cybertruck has, it's a serious competition over an f150.
Stonewall Jackson 2wd vs 4wd. What are you expecting them from. Why didn’t they use Ford electric with 4wd or HD 4wd? Tesla chose Ford 2wd to cheating as they thought we all too stupid to notice. We busted them.
I'm not a Ford lover or anything like it but, this whole situation looked staged... It's just that with all that twisting one could think Ford would bend backwards for their fans
Joshua Moore dude. This is the same test. Its not like the tool box test they could have faked. This just shows chevy has better quality and always has.
I clicked this video thinking it was something else. But, since I'm here, Ford (or even Ram) never had the issues with cracking frames and cross member separation that GM did. I believe GMs goal was to satisfy GM drivers that primarily use their vehicles as more of a commuter vehicle.
This is a perfect controlled test. Regardless of who they hired to speak. What we need is a follow up test from an independent source to verify this frame twist issue. If a Ford guy thinks this is bullshit than bring your dually on down and out her to the test. We can all make a TH-cam to document the results.
I had a brand new F-250 4x4 and with 40 miles on it when I was driving it home from the dealer the turbo blows up on me then after fixing that I had a fuel pump go out at 15,000 miles while sitting in traffic so I had no way to get to the shoulder so after that I sold the pile of shit and wrote off that god damn company I will never buy another ford again.
Same with the f-350 I own. The thing broke down all the time and rusted out quick! Honestly I need to make a video of it because it is kind of ridiculous how fast it did rust.
Michelle Unis Dude I fill your pain I seriously thought I was spending my hard earned money on a good truck but I didn't even get to enjoy the first drive home in it, now every damn time I even think of that POS it makes me fill sick. Just last month my buddy took his F-350 to Glamis and on the way home he had a axle shaft walk all the way out on him dropping the ass of the truck on the ground at 55mph!!! The truck is only a couple years old and the list of issues he told me is just growing and growing. Now I drive a new Chevy 3500 for work and an older Tacoma for everything else and couldn't be happier with both of them.
@Sgtqman19 lol yeah but if you can have a truck that has more traction than the competition, twist like that, drive off, and be safe in crashes then your definitely winning in the "truck game"
The thing about Bed Twist is that the less you have, it is NOT a better thing. A stiffer chassis has to endure more force to not bend as much, and can lead to stressing of the metal frame and possibly breakage. The Chevy has too stiff of a frame. Doing this too much will stress out the chassis after a while, and it will either become permanently warped or will break. The Ford frame is OK. Not perfect, but it is enough give to put less stress on the frame of the vehicle. You can't open the tailgate in this position, but when are you ever going to need to?
You get the point! FORD's frame could use improvements like anything else that which has been done since the 70's till 2015. I sure hope that FORD sticks to there beefed up C-Channel vs a Thinner Fully Box'd Chassis when the Superduty is due for a major update soon and just continue to develop on what has worked for so long. GM and RAM's solution was to go with a STIFF Sausage, Good in Bed with Her, BAD if you Wrestle with Her. Should I say, Broke Sausage!!
WRONG, They are all using steel which is flexible but the difference is fully boxed vs c channel. In addition, RAM and GM has more cross members to provide additional durability. Ford is using outdated frames from 1970s.
Let me tell you why that's bullshit. More cross members means more welds. More welds provide more places there the chassis can break from flexing. Less cross-members provide a bit of extra flex in the chassis, but this means the chassis has less possible breaking points and is thus more durable. Ford sticks with the saying, "if it ain't broke don't fix it". Their chassis, 1970s or not, has proven that it does its job better than its competitors. Let's not mention how many times GM has had to re-engineer the chassis they use. Some GM vehicles are famous for the weakness of their frames, particularly Chevrolet and GMC.
***** Going along with that way of thinking, Ford must have the worst motors as they redesign them all the time and never have a long running model. Unlike the Chevrolet Gen I small block that lasted 50 years.
That's done by your suspension... Not the frame of the truck. I see why you're a Ford guy. You guys don't know trucks you get repairs done at the dealership.
And what do you do? Sit in your chevy waiting for it to start but it wont? Seriously dont need to be mean about let him decide what truck he wants. Also chevy has a lot of recalls lately on all on new trucks and you expect that new trucks should be better.
@@ravethephantom6184 Ford SHOULD have a lot of recalls, besides, no car buff drives Ford's and you'll notice that and for a good reason. They aren't built to work on. They're built to bring into the dealership with the other house wives.
See the key word here is SHOULD but they dont have any as of late honestly I'm not trying to make anyone mean here in the end of the day if you have the money then buy whatever the heck you want if you want a ford get a ford if you want a chevy get a chevy I'm just saying what I see from all of this. Honestly everyone has different experiences and no matter what they dont really matter honestly I love trucks of all kinds but I really dont like to hate on any brand but Ford aren't bad at all just have to take care of it like every other vehicle and your good
@@Smitty-op4ld "That's done by your suspension." no it's not. you only have like 8 inches of suspension travel, you'll rattle your brain out of your head and shit out your spine relying solely on the suspension. I drive my 2009 F150 through dirt roads all the time and I can see the cab and bed moving independently of each other, and it's never been and issue. this truck has lived almost it's whole life in dirt and it's as strait as an arrow.
Notice that the 1-ton trucks were loaded and they didn't drive the 3500HD up all the way on the ramp so that the rear duals would hang off the ground. If they did the Chevy would suffer frame damage because it doesn't flex enough. A tailgate costs less to fix than replacing a frame.
Dylan Gilbertson The empty 3/4 ton trucks (both Ford & Chevy) were driven further up the ramp than the loaded 1-ton trucks (both Ford & Chevy). If flex is bad, why to class 8 trucks have c-channel frames? F-250 and up trucks are more sought after by up-fitters because their frames are stronger and easier to build off of. How many Chevy or Dodge ambulances have you seen in your life? Any reputable tow truck builder will not even touch a Dodger or modern Chevrolet truck. What do most of the power companies use? Construction companies? Manufacturing? etc. Don't lie to yourself. The Ford is selected more because it is built like an industrial grade truck. Industrial grade trucks do not have boxed frames. I love the boxed frame that my F-150 has. Its really firm and rides like a tank, but it will not withstand the compressive load that a big c-channel can. I wish they would load these frames up to the point of failure. If they did, everyone would see that the Ford would handle more weight before it fails than the Chevy or Dodge. If the loaded 1-ton Chevy would have been driven on the ramp like the 3/4 ton it would have been damaged. At the very least the welds would have failed at the cross-members.
supermotox55 Dodge has the worst frames. I know a man who built Chevy and Dodge frames for 30 years; he drives a Ford. Chrysler has always chosen the cheapest way to get the job done. Back in the late 80s Cummins told Chrysler that they wouldn't let them use their engines until they improved their frames because they wouldn't hold up, and they didn't want the reputation of their engine ruined. They were DESCENT until the late 90s, but then they started cutting corners again. For example, if you take a 2002 Dodge to a tow-truck builder to get up-fitted they will tell you to get lost. The whole truck would need to be tore down so that the entire frame could be beefed up. Chevy had a pretty good frame in their 3500HDs around 96'-00'. That is why you see a considerable amount of tow trucks in these years that are Chevy/GMCs.
supermotox55 Chevy has the worste frame! what the hell are you talking about, Ford has the toughest frame by far. If anything Ford can compete with dodge chevy is at the bottom of the barrel. just remember Chevy is GMCs retarded brother.
I've owned a 1979 Ford F-100, 1990 Ford Ranger and now 2018 Ford F-25O. I'm not brand loyal. It's a coincidence that a Ford is what I decided on at the time.
I like all trucks but I just think it’s funny that Chevy is the primary automaker that tests its trucks up against the competitors in its commercials most often
Neil Whitmore Any smart dealer would never try to conduct a bullshit test because then people would find out by trying to test their own trucks and sell them and buy the competitor. This is the one time where you don’t want to lie to your consumers.
You also don't want a truck to be as stiff as the Chevy under load, it can reduce traction. the torsional twist helps keep at least 3 wheels planted to the road. Chevy's and Dodges are notorious for cracked frames when plowing
Yeah but if you go up a little hill like the one in the video, the bed door doesn't get jammed as the Ford did. My Chevy has been through hills and back. She's outdid any Ford truck even in accidents.
Kevin Wayburn actually it's the consistent flexing that causes the snapped frames it's like grabbing steel and bending it back and forth until it snaps less flex is better which is why they snap ram had rust and a stress point at the front of the bed that would cause snapping
love the F series id dominant at worksites arguments... a company that sees 2 trucks 1 cheaper and with few short term problems is likely to chose it as they can save money that way. but it's like buying cheap tools you can buy manny and it doesn't matter if 1 breaks because you got another one you can throw at the jobb.... to many companies work this way..
I had a 2012 Ford Superduty and traded it for a redesigned and much stiffer framed 2017 Ford Superduty with the new high strength steel boxed frame. Yep, I can tell the difference.
Mrjoecreeper they still don't in their medium duty trucks, and whether or not Ford uses it now, it still stands that semis use an open C for the reason I listed, I would think that peterbilt and freightliner and Volvo and all of those companies would've figured out what's best by now.
Justin Walters I get what you're saying. But don't take any offense by this. Comparing their Medium Duty line and Semi-Trucks to Pickup trucks kind of redundant considering that the average Pickup will see more uneven roads than your average Semi or Medium Duty trucks. You know what I mean?
main reasion rigs use C-channel's is because it saves weight, and the less the vehicle weigh the more you can haul, and the same load can be carried with less fuel consumption if it's lighter. i dont know about you but cant remember last time i saw a rig having to do some offroading to this extent.
Oh my lord... i have completely zero relation to all the truck topic but this video is such a nostalgia blast for me in like 2012 when i was 7 i think ive seen this video randomly, probably due to yt recomendations being weird as always
Im a chevy guy all the way, but have personally seen and driven both trucks in similar situations, and have NOT seen a ford perform that badly, let alone crease the endgate. Somthing must be rigged here. They are both quality trucks, and in real situations neither will have a problem like this.
It is very seldon you would ever flex this hard unless you are either trying to demonstrate flex or are rock crawling. I can see this happening under extreme circumstances. Most trucks that crawl make some nasty noises in the chassis as they flex. Just watch any rock crawling video on youtube.
Thank you. I am a ford guy but at least one or two chevy guys actually understand the facts about ford. Ford and Chevy make their trucks differently and i have my reasons for liking ford over chevy but at least one chevy guy knows the facts and doesnt try to go with the Fix Or Repair Daily bullshit
i got no problem with the chassis flexibility. i am a horse transporter, and i use that flexibility when i am pulling my 47 feet, 23.000 GVWR with 8 warm bloods of 1.300 pounds each one, specially when i am at the farms picking them up off road. in the past i drove a Sierra 3500 and i had no problem, it wasn't a bad truck, some little electric issues (nothing major), and the interior is not the nicest, but i change for a F450 king ranch cause i need a stronger rear axle, and it is amazing, a little slower, but more powerful on hills, it is almost 280.000 miles, and i had nothimg bad with it, just a problem with thw DEF sensor, and a leaking in the oil pan when it has around 180.000.
I love how people fight over brands. I LOVE Ford, Dodge, and Chevrolet (GM). Out of them they all have weaknesses and strengths. I like Chevrolet for towing, its low to the ground, comfortable, and unlike Dodge and Ford the Allison cannot be beaten, but I wouldn't take my Duramax offroad without a lift kit. I like my Dodge because you can't get the sound of a Cummins from anything else on the market, the nostalgic semi front end, and my 24v Cummins will outlast my Duramax and my 7.3 Stroke hands down. And my 7.3 stroke and 5.9 Cummins both are high off the ground, ride like haywagons, and have solid front axles so I play offroad with those two and haul four wheelers. Plus, my 36' Forest River 5th wheel is heavy and the Duramax with sling that rig all over the road, but my Cummins and Stroke just don't do that. They pull it don't get me wrong, but my Duramax will mop the floor with both my Cummins and powerstroke pulling that trailer while they remain unloaded. Love them all, the big 3, but you can't get the entire package in one truck. Never happen.
The new Rams with the cummins use AISIN transmissions, so as far as the powertrain goes I would put them above the GM at this point. I'm purely talking about the engine/trans. Rear ends are solid too.
@@andrewmclamb6984 I didn't realise, but you are in every comment defending chevy- for what? Its painfully obvious how staged and fake this is. Also, suspension on both trucks has its limits. Once the chevy's suspension gets bottomed out- ting! The frame goes bye-bye. The Ford won't have that problem because excess energy is channeled into the bed. And even if the bed gets damaged, it's a hell of a lot cheaper to replace a bed than an entire frame.
To be honest, chevy was really honest on this one. It’s just that they have put so many of these bs JD Power awards that nobody believes their ads anymore. Idk if I believe this for sure either!
Ford been making trucks longer than anybody in the business they only get better at making them its a reason they have the #1 selling truck in America 😂😂
All this ad does is speak to the ignorant masses that don’t understand trucks. Ford made their frames flexible as it’s the best way to be when under a load. Much like semi trucks with their flexible frames. Things that are too stiff can permanently warp or snap. Chevy has been pretty shady in these commercials cause our fleet of F-350s flex, but no where near this much. I can already see the comments saying “he’s a FordFan let’s burn and kill him, what does he know” here’s my take on the truck war: Buy the one that you like and shut up. The real war was 20 years ago. Now trucks are all the same.
Pretty much all the same now. I consider all the interiors to be the same as a damn prius. It's basically about exterior styling now. The most American made truck today is the Tundras and Tacomas, a Toyota.
U are a freaking moron.. Furds are junk... Ford stopped making c channel frames and went to boxed frame....don't you look stupid..get off internet dummy
Everything is bullshit the same today, every house looks the same and is built out of ticky tacky (Tract Homes) and vehicles all look like they want to look the same.
That is hands down the most compelling evidence I’ve seen to squash the ford vs chevy fued. At least concerning work trucks. I always assumed that they were substantially the same capabilities, quality, and that because they’re close in price it’s really a matter of brand loyalty. I was brought up with gmc/chevy so it’s hard to say, but if it was the other way around I don’t know how you could consciously buy the Ford after seeing that. The frame is hands down the most important part of a HD. I would’t dare drive that through a rough worksite with a substantial load. I remember seeing a few years back some videos of f150s sheared in half from a collision. I wasn’t sure what to make of it then but I do now. What garbage!
I own 8 trucks. 4 Fords, 1 Dodge Ram, 1 Silverado HD(one used in this video) and a toyota tacoma. When you see the undercarriage on the Chevy in this video you see reinforcement struts. The Chevy (LTZ package) that I have does not have those reinforcement struts. I think that they reinforced it for the video. Although all car companies are at fault for this jackassery ford and dodge is still better.
how does this prove anything? The only benefit to the kind of test is maybe for rock crawling. Who is going to park their truck with two opposing wheels off the ground not to mention do it on purpose?
even going through just small ditches puts your truck in that position and I take my 2011 Silverado on them on a daily basis and the tailgate hasn't broke yet. so therefore Ford is complete trash
A buddy of mine bought a new F150 back in 1999. It had that funny bump out on the back of the cab that actually hangs over the front of the box. Went on a trail one weekend and managed to get the cab to kiss the box when the frame flexed, Frame flex doesn't bother me but holy crap, Ford should have seen that one coming. All in all though, I feel Ford makes a good product.
torsional rigidity should be of a real world test. Not some ramps that keep the wheels off the ground. GM is always coming up with weird test like the "empty toolbox" pushed over the bedside but you can see on the commercial it punctures the GM bed also.
When Chevy pays for commercial they will win every time
Same for the jd powa awards
That’s business 101. Is any company gonna make an advertisement or demonstration where they say “our competitor is better than us”?
@@jakethomas_419 just saying don't compare apples to oranges
Frame braces/suppourt
Chevy power
I'm a chevy guy myself but I want to see a video like this with unbiased ACTORS
Dixie Strong223 Is rather it not be an actor at all and just get pay random people to give there unbiased opinion
How would you guys know if they were unbiased actors? Would they be unbiased if they picked the one you liked? 🤔
@@Wolfreiser buddy they did pick the one I liked because I love gm way more than ford. But the fella said himself that he was all for chevy so he is therefore biased
Dixie Strong223 The only hard thing with this is they would more or less have to pick someone who knows virtually nothing about trucks to have a truly unbiased opinion, so how unbiased are you talking? Also my mistake for not catching that you mentioned that you were a Chevy guy.
@@Wolfreiser unbiased in this case would be someone who has basic knowledge of trucks but no opinion on the brands
Honestly I clicked this vid because it thought it was one of Mahk's.
Me too
we need to see Mahk's input in this commercial
Jd powa jd powa
Same
Same
Its funny how the tests vary depending on the manufacturer. Do people actually believe this is unbiased?
Ford guy?
Foggy Visions definitely
Just watch whistling diesal
U salty chevy is the best
I don't believe fords are better but I believe that the ads are a load of bullshit from both.
Best thing about this video are those sick ramps. Need those for my oil changes!
Ikr
Just lift your truck, go right under
hippo potamus on your Chevy
hippo potamus did u know these videos or fake they make other trucks bad so people can buy the Silverado
hippo potamus Agreed
I like how the camera was already on the spot where the fords tailgate got a dent. Definitely not biased and staged.
Lol ur just a ford fuck
@@bowserkiller1997 I’m actually a Ram guy
@@HandledEagle227 even worse
@@zlhector7 Not really, everybody got their opinions, I honestly love the Hilux over the Ram, Ford and Chevy.
I think that they just zoomed in from one of the cameras back there
I’m a Chevy guy but I can’t lie this “test” was biased
It was biased but not fake
this was biased but it wasnt fake and the duramax makes more power and is still way more reliable
@@andrewb232 Cummins is always there when you need it. 4 or 6.
yeah they all lie
It was but undoubtedly the Chevrolet is more durable
I’m a Chevy guy, but that ford tailgate is locked
No your not and no it's not, tailgates don't open when the latch is jammed.
@@Smitty-op4ld but the tailgate latch is not jammed they locked it why do you think they cut to that part? Huh? HUH? Thats what i thought
@@Smitty-op4ld he pulled the handle all the way out he wouldnt be able to do that if it was jammed so yes it looks like the gate was locked. but also it probably was jammed anyway considering the strain damage that was caused to the tailgate. I think it was locked because they were planning to fail it regardless.
@@metalavenger23 you ever had an old pickup? You can pull the handle out on a jammed pickup unless the latch is what's jammed, pressure on the sides of the gate will hold it fast.
Robert Smith problem is that’s not a old pickup, it’s a 2011 I think
except this is an unfair test because ford literally designs their frame to do that to increase the flex in the tires/ suspension so that all 4 tires will still be on the ground and give you traction
Not in HDs, that’s meant for towing
B F'IN S
It’s true though
They design the suspension like crap. Newer and older ford ride stiff
The flex is totally normal. If you put an extra 2 ton in the ford's bed , it will bent more but not break. Do the same with your Chevy and the frame is going to fail because it can't handle the flex.
Your chevy is like a drill bit, flex it and it will crack somewhere.
It broke... While empty.
Chevy built broken
For built for america they've stayed true to that
No, flex is not normal. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
same with ford motors
I don’t like either. But a stiffer frame isn’t stronger.
It does when the body is bending and breaking to shit lmao
That comment makes no sense, so you're saying a more floppy frame is stronger? It's a frame not a noodle! At least you have 34 Ford guys as your comment liking cheerleaders
@@Smitty-op4ld im not a ford guy, but stiffer isnt stronger LOL
@@flight2k5 went over both you guys heads. Are you implying that floppier is stronger?
@@Smitty-op4ld are you saying stiffer is stronger?
“Why does this happen to the Super Duty but not the HD?”
Well, probably because you loosened the bolts
Yup I explained that lol
And the ford is more reliable
@Grady Frankovich , that's bs. My family has owned two fords in my lifetime. The first was a '97 F350 XL Crew Cab Dually. Beautiful truck, but we had rebuild the tranny 3 times. The second was an Explorer (I don't know the year). We had it for about 2 years before the engine blew up. I like Ford vehicles, but the drivetrains can't be trusted.
Ford's are supposed to have a flexible frame called A C frame and that lets if you're pulling a trailer or let's most of the back wheels to stay on the ground instead of 6 wheels going up into the freaking air and one on the way sarcastically I say
@@bluewol7420 There's A reason most people say "ford, fix or repair daily"
Nothing more trustworthy than ads for a Chevy brought to us by....Chevy.
I have to go, I’m out of Kool Aid...
Did you get more kool aid?
how about now? did you get more cool aid yet
😆
@@jacksonmeads1161 @Nikolas Fedorko Are you two the guys that were also laughing at Ford for making vehicles out of aluminum alloy when that's exactly what Chevy is doing now?
my 2018 2500HD has been in the shop 4 times with big issues...
4g63gen1 it’s because it’s a HD
I got my 17’ 2500HD in January this year, have put 40,000 miles on it since and not a single problem!
Voltaar LLC yeah but wait until 100k
Omar Flores the biggest problem is all the emissions bs. Especially for guys who only use their HD trucks to ride around town in. I haul with mine across the US and Canada. Working these trucks are the best thing for them.
Omar Flores I didn’t mentions it’s already past 100K lol
I have a 79 Ford, and while I don't have any issues with sudden bed denting, I will say that there is enough flex to the frame that you can see the bed/cab offset just from parking on uneven terrain, like next to a tree. Does it bother me? No. Would it be better if it didn't flex? No. The frame is part of the suspension, in my opinion. It's just a great big Model T.
I will speak from experience. I bought a brand new of the lot 2015 Ford F-150 and out of the 7 months I had it, it sent a total of 3 months in the shop being repaired broke down on me constantly and everything you can imagine went wrong. Dealership offered me another one when I told them I wanted to return it to purchase another vehicle and I kindly said no and bought a Chevy Silverado I’ve now had it for 5 years going on 6 and it has not been to the shop once and it runs just as smooth as the day I bought it. That is my unbiased experience with the 2 vehicles.
3 Ford pickups in my garage. 2 F250's 1 F350.
And I get the GM employee discount!
Smart person
Nuff said
They are really good actors 😂
Ghost Kid Yeah how convenient of him to kno the Silverado was motor trend truck of the year, and mention it at such a random f***ing time
Funny
funny but we all know fords suck
@@andrewb232 I'm sorry, is that why Ford had to be bailed out by the govt? No wait, that was GM.
Thomas Sandidge come to straya and watch our utes smash all this heap of shit
I’ll take a Ford over a Chevy any day
Be prepared to break down all the time
@@DJ-om2oz nah
Did u watch the video?
@@DJ-om2oz yeah it was bias because Chevy made the video
Let me go throw up
Why did they use old fords against new chevys
Because Ford doesn’t update their design.
Because its the same category
Your bed is supposed to twist from your cabin, it keeps all 4 wheels planted to the ground and avoids extreme and permanent frame bending
_ Drummie942 _ lol
_ Drummie942 _ ur bed isn’t suppose to move and twist a lot🤣that’s why u have suspension so ur wheels move but ur truck doesn’t all that much
Freaking hilarious. You aren't serious are you?
Yes, let's make our vehicle less rigid because that makes it more durable
The Chevy’s frame is so strong it wont bend
I think the term "frame twist strength" applies more to this video's terrible aspect ratio.
lol!!!!, 16:9 video stretched to a 21:9.
Patrick Peterson h
Addit Jagdat bh
This aspect ratio only looks bad if you have a shitty monitor.
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Chevy: i know how to rust the fastest bb
Ford: we learned from our mistakes...
Everyone else: hate comment
Me: wondering why they are intentionally bending trucks
They were trying to show "extreme" terrain I think
Well it's a fucking Chevy ad
Has anyone seen the way the new ford aluminum beds crack under stress lol
Starstriple Yup and they're both ford fails
+sammy duran How about the chevy commercial with the bear and with the steel cage and aluminum cage where everyone went into the steel cage when real bear cages are made of aluminum.
Whitestar Ya pretty funny, what I'm waiting for is for the new aluminum super duties to go through frame twist obstacle, I wonder how they're gunna hold up this time lol
+sammy duran dude the frames are not aluminum just the body
I'm a chevy guy but stop bragging a truck is a truck
MechanicalGamer yea I prefer dodge or Chevy but I would be very thankful to have a truck
I like ford more, so thanks
I love Mitsubishi Strada
Ford for the win
A truck that runs and drives smoothly, I’m An American truck guy and that’s what matters to me
After watching a number of old trucks off road, frame flex appears to make up for the lack of suspension travel in leaf spring suspensions, often resulting in better traction.
30times stiffer
Me: that’s what she said
Ok now that I’m parked sideways with two opposite side wheels on ramps I’m gonna go unload all the shit in my trunk by opening the tailgate and not grabbing it
Who the hell would actually need to put a truck like this into those positions. Chevy is just trying to find something they can win in
That guy was a Chevy expert, so he probably knew a way to line up the Chevy so that it won't bend
They just make a truck just to stand up to some crazy stupid shit then act like is crazy.
Paul Wright Ford has been winning the truck game for decades. No one buys a heavy duty truck like that to rock crawl. Cmon
Paul Wright No they don’t. Maybe a full size, but mid size and jeeps are where it’s at for rock crawling. And are you blind? Chevy’s reliability is shit. Are you getting your data from JD power, because that is straight bull shit? People pay for those awards.
Paul Wright they say fords are the number one selling truck brand. Do they put Chevy and GMC together in that calculation? GM is by for the best out there.
Having owned all three; Dodge, Chevy, Ford never had issues with "Twist", wheel alignment, scheduled servicing and cup holders are all I care about.
OK, critical thinking questions: Is the level of stiffness shown here necessary or even good for the longevity of the truck as it is put through the paces of its working life? Alternatively, does a pickup truck's frame need to exhibit some measure of flex / resiliency in order to prevent any type of snapping/shearing or long term metal fatigue?
I really don't know the answer here, so I'm genuinely asking.
Remember when Chevy
Said they are more reliable than toyota and Honda.
Thats the worst commercial ever😂
Well i got a 96 chevy truck with 496k miles on it only replaced intake gasket and wearable parts and of course 4l60e trans . thats 496k of chicago stop and go and driving across kentucky through mountains
Your so dumb chevy is most reliable since 2006 fact dont talk if you dont know. Chevy is also 30x stronger then Ford
@@beastmode3537 nah its not. Gtfo with your chevy fanboy bs.
@@anthonyppool8203 Engine? Please dont brag if you have anything over 2.6L. Any V6 or V8 from Honda or Toyota will easily do that.
@@beastmode3537 chevy? RELIABLE?
any chevy before 2004-06 is good
anything after is SHIT
Who be driving there trucks like that. I live on a farm and never had to put my truck in a twist
For rock crawling in a stock truck 😂😂😂
CASPER 12345
Is that why Chevy is so much less reliable? Fords are on the ranch because they are tough. Chevys are on the road cause that’s all they can handle.
People who go off-road
People who get paid to break a truck to get more money and fake everything
Soul R 7 it’s done to show how shitty Ford is🤣🤣🤣🤣
“Give the gate a try”, seriously? It’s a goddamn gate it doesn’t matter in what position the truck is in.
Yup
But it shows that the Chevy is stronger.
@@andrewmclamb6984 Lmao the Chevy's frame was definitely bent by the test. The reason the bed flexes is to make sure that the frame doesn't get bent and so that the energy has somewhere to go.
Also this test was staged- bolts were loosened in the Ford
I’m sure these are some real life experiences 😂
2:33 hears a dent
Actors:imma pretend i didn't see that
Oh yeah yeah that was the ramp moving
@@wkwekel5457 where
Lol Ikr
Blah! See it for yourself and still dont believe! I know, truths hard to take sometimes. Chevy, better made... PERIOD
Harvey Pinet Chevrolet propaganda
😂
dodge/gmc fan *eats popcorn while reading comments*
GMC lyfe
War Turtle this had me on the floor because I'm actually eating popcorn and I'm a dodge fan
8cho Sports yeah ik but this is between silverado and f1shitty not denalis n stuff
Youre a special kind of stupid. Chevy and GMC are the same thing.
the only people that can say that neither o these trucks are any good are dodge fans, because gmc/gm makes/owns chev which is a piece of shit company trying to beat out a great one.
I watched a 2015 ford F150 explode on the interstate next to me as I drove by in my 2004 Chevy 1500. It made my day to know my old truck will last longer than the new trucks out this year.
I am a ford guy and I own a 2000 Ford F-250 7.3 powerstroke, but I have to say the Chevy trucks that were made before the bailout were actually pretty good I still think Ford is better though.
@@becplumbing660 Maybe good mechanically but the interiors are trash.
@@r.rodriguez4991 both interiors suck
@@GamerBoy-ye2op ram has the worst interiors wtf
Let's see how the Cyber"truck" stands this test.
Stonewall Jackson that ford was the lowest f 150 model you could get and the Ford was in 2 wheel drive
It'll handle it incredibly, it has adaptive air suspension. And to say it's not a truck shows your ignorance. It has a full size bed lmao
Elon musk even directly responded to somebody sending him this video on Twitter lol
Most people just don't like it because it's a completely new design, but to be honest, even if you don't like the truck or don't like Tesla it should be a good thing that it has so many features. Silverados and f150s have been the same thing for years, but now Tesla is putting pressure on Ford to make more affordable trucks with more features. Cause with a 40k price tag and all the features the cybertruck has, it's a serious competition over an f150.
Stonewall Jackson 2wd vs 4wd. What are you expecting them from. Why didn’t they use Ford electric with 4wd or HD 4wd?
Tesla chose Ford 2wd to cheating as they thought we all too stupid to notice.
We busted them.
I'm not a Ford lover or anything like it but, this whole situation looked staged...
It's just that with all that twisting one could think Ford would bend backwards for their fans
They are staged but eh what can you do about it
this era of GM ads.. pfft. Ford F-series still top for 42 years
Definitely not
‘This era of gm adds’? Have you seen how terrible the new ones are? The ford ones are appalling too
Zachariah H Ford is the best no debate
AustinGhost45 sup fan boy
Jeremy Fufushnick ? What’s that supposed to mean
That gate is locked, but that bed indeed does that.
I bet if Ford made the ad they will look great
This isn’t an experiment it’s an add for Chevy and if it is its favored one way
Thanks for all the likes 👍
Dude, they performed the same test on both vehicles. Doesnt matter if its sponsored or not.
Joshua Moore - Very A$$umptive of you to go as far to say that.
Joshua Moore dude. This is the same test. Its not like the tool box test they could have faked. This just shows chevy has better quality and always has.
@@Attachments. thank you
James Minix so it’s basically fake they changed the back of the Ford 250
When I’m off-roading in my brand new f-250 the first thing I think of doing is opening my tail gate
colby bellows 🤣🤣
You sure will once your done and it wont open
Dont have to worry about it...won't open anyways...
But Chevy has to think like that. It's going to break down while off reading and they will need the tailgate down.
Ford guys have to think of that jackleg kind of stuff
I clicked this video thinking it was something else. But, since I'm here, Ford (or even Ram) never had the issues with cracking frames and cross member separation that GM did. I believe GMs goal was to satisfy GM drivers that primarily use their vehicles as more of a commuter vehicle.
I miss these older trucks when they brand new. They look so good.
This test was so practical, I definitely planned on wheeling a 1 ton dually like I would a jeep.
3:12 You said it Harvey; you're no engineer!
This is a perfect controlled test. Regardless of who they hired to speak. What we need is a follow up test from an independent source to verify this frame twist issue. If a Ford guy thinks this is bullshit than bring your dually on down and out her to the test. We can all make a TH-cam to document the results.
“I’m no engineer but that looks like a problem.” Explains this commercial perfectly. If you are an engineer you know the ford flexes on purpose
Ford got rid of the C frames years ago, so, no, they don't flex anymore.
I had a brand new F-250 4x4 and with 40 miles on it when I was driving it home from the dealer the turbo blows up on me then after fixing that I had a fuel pump go out at 15,000 miles while sitting in traffic so I had no way to get to the shoulder so after that I sold the pile of shit and wrote off that god damn company I will never buy another ford again.
boo hoo
Same with the f-350 I own. The thing broke down all the time and rusted out quick! Honestly I need to make a video of it because it is kind of ridiculous how fast it did rust.
Michelle Unis Dude I fill your pain I seriously thought I was spending my hard earned money on a good truck but I didn't even get to enjoy the first drive home in it, now every damn time I even think of that POS it makes me fill sick. Just last month my buddy took his F-350 to Glamis and on the way home he had a axle shaft walk all the way out on him dropping the ass of the truck on the ground at 55mph!!! The truck is only a couple years old and the list of issues he told me is just growing and growing. Now I drive a new Chevy 3500 for work and an older Tacoma for everything else and couldn't be happier with both of them.
I wonder why the turbo blew out? hmm.. The vehicle will represent the driver.
Turbo only blew because you were on it to hard and was running too many pounds of boost
ford designs there trucks frames to bend so they have a better chance of keeping all 4 on the ground to increase traction
Ya and the tailgate still fucked up😂
Yeah and they're safer in crashes
@Sgtqman19 lol yeah but if you can have a truck that has more traction than the competition, twist like that, drive off, and be safe in crashes then your definitely winning in the "truck game"
that dent in the tailgate will pop right out with a plunger and the trucks like new again
Yep
Did anybody else get a laugh out of this commercial 🤣😂🤣😂
Now I don't need to worry about my bed bending on my way to office every day.
The thing about Bed Twist is that the less you have, it is NOT a better thing. A stiffer chassis has to endure more force to not bend as much, and can lead to stressing of the metal frame and possibly breakage.
The Chevy has too stiff of a frame. Doing this too much will stress out the chassis after a while, and it will either become permanently warped or will break.
The Ford frame is OK. Not perfect, but it is enough give to put less stress on the frame of the vehicle. You can't open the tailgate in this position, but when are you ever going to need to?
You get the point! FORD's frame could use improvements like anything else that which has been done since the 70's till 2015. I sure hope that FORD sticks to there beefed up C-Channel vs a Thinner Fully Box'd Chassis when the Superduty is due for a major update soon and just continue to develop on what has worked for so long.
GM and RAM's solution was to go with a STIFF Sausage, Good in Bed with Her, BAD if you Wrestle with Her. Should I say, Broke Sausage!!
Micah Watts
I am glad someone agrees. I see an innuendo in GM's and RAM's solution... giggity.
WRONG, They are all using steel which is flexible but the difference is fully boxed vs c channel. In addition, RAM and GM has more cross members to provide additional durability. Ford is using outdated frames from 1970s.
Let me tell you why that's bullshit.
More cross members means more welds. More welds provide more places there the chassis can break from flexing. Less cross-members provide a bit of extra flex in the chassis, but this means the chassis has less possible breaking points and is thus more durable. Ford sticks with the saying, "if it ain't broke don't fix it". Their chassis, 1970s or not, has proven that it does its job better than its competitors. Let's not mention how many times GM has had to re-engineer the chassis they use. Some GM vehicles are famous for the weakness of their frames, particularly Chevrolet and GMC.
***** Going along with that way of thinking, Ford must have the worst motors as they redesign them all the time and never have a long running model. Unlike the Chevrolet Gen I small block that lasted 50 years.
I Still would rather have the Ford. I go off road every day and would rather have all 4 wheels in contact with the ground.
That's done by your suspension... Not the frame of the truck. I see why you're a Ford guy. You guys don't know trucks you get repairs done at the dealership.
And what do you do? Sit in your chevy waiting for it to start but it wont? Seriously dont need to be mean about let him decide what truck he wants. Also chevy has a lot of recalls lately on all on new trucks and you expect that new trucks should be better.
@@ravethephantom6184 Ford SHOULD have a lot of recalls, besides, no car buff drives Ford's and you'll notice that and for a good reason. They aren't built to work on. They're built to bring into the dealership with the other house wives.
See the key word here is SHOULD but they dont have any as of late honestly I'm not trying to make anyone mean here in the end of the day if you have the money then buy whatever the heck you want if you want a ford get a ford if you want a chevy get a chevy I'm just saying what I see from all of this. Honestly everyone has different experiences and no matter what they dont really matter honestly I love trucks of all kinds but I really dont like to hate on any brand but Ford aren't bad at all just have to take care of it like every other vehicle and your good
@@Smitty-op4ld "That's done by your suspension." no it's not. you only have like 8 inches of suspension travel, you'll rattle your brain out of your head and shit out your spine relying solely on the suspension. I drive my 2009 F150 through dirt roads all the time and I can see the cab and bed moving independently of each other, and it's never been and issue. this truck has lived almost it's whole life in dirt and it's as strait as an arrow.
Chevys built differently. Its just a different breed.
Bear in mind strength and rigidity is very different. A lot of times flex is better than no flex.
Notice that the 1-ton trucks were loaded and they didn't drive the 3500HD up all the way on the ramp so that the rear duals would hang off the ground. If they did the Chevy would suffer frame damage because it doesn't flex enough. A tailgate costs less to fix than replacing a frame.
David Larbes There was plenty of room.. It's staged, But Chevy and Dodge have the best frames, Dodge being having the less tweak to it.
Dylan Gilbertson The empty 3/4 ton trucks (both Ford & Chevy) were driven further up the ramp than the loaded 1-ton trucks (both Ford & Chevy). If flex is bad, why to class 8 trucks have c-channel frames? F-250 and up trucks are more sought after by up-fitters because their frames are stronger and easier to build off of. How many Chevy or Dodge ambulances have you seen in your life? Any reputable tow truck builder will not even touch a Dodger or modern Chevrolet truck. What do most of the power companies use? Construction companies? Manufacturing? etc. Don't lie to yourself. The Ford is selected more because it is built like an industrial grade truck. Industrial grade trucks do not have boxed frames. I love the boxed frame that my F-150 has. Its really firm and rides like a tank, but it will not withstand the compressive load that a big c-channel can. I wish they would load these frames up to the point of failure. If they did, everyone would see that the Ford would handle more weight before it fails than the Chevy or Dodge. If the loaded 1-ton Chevy would have been driven on the ramp like the 3/4 ton it would have been damaged. At the very least the welds would have failed at the cross-members.
David Larbes????? bud idk if you looked close enough the first time, but you need to take another look.
supermotox55 Dodge has the worst frames. I know a man who built Chevy and Dodge frames for 30 years; he drives a Ford. Chrysler has always chosen the cheapest way to get the job done. Back in the late 80s Cummins told Chrysler that they wouldn't let them use their engines until they improved their frames because they wouldn't hold up, and they didn't want the reputation of their engine ruined. They were DESCENT until the late 90s, but then they started cutting corners again. For example, if you take a 2002 Dodge to a tow-truck builder to get up-fitted they will tell you to get lost. The whole truck would need to be tore down so that the entire frame could be beefed up. Chevy had a pretty good frame in their 3500HDs around 96'-00'. That is why you see a considerable amount of tow trucks in these years that are Chevy/GMCs.
supermotox55 Chevy has the worste frame! what the hell are you talking about, Ford has the toughest frame by far. If anything Ford can compete with dodge chevy is at the bottom of the barrel. just remember Chevy is GMCs retarded brother.
Flexible frames are stronger. Rigid frames crack or bend .
Incorrect. If the frame bends like this, it indicates no structural rigidity
Andy's Shop your incorrect buddy
If you are rock crawling you want to be able to get a wheel on something , air gives little traction .
@@vadwvea7153 yeah and then they tested a Tacoma and a ranger and the Tacoma flexed but yall Ford guys were like "tacoma bends thats not good"
@@tmr8193 a complete* as in you check other people with no concern of your own level of comprehension
I've owned a 1979 Ford F-100, 1990 Ford Ranger and now 2018 Ford F-25O. I'm not brand loyal. It's a coincidence that a Ford is what I decided on at the time.
I like all trucks but I just think it’s funny that Chevy is the primary automaker that tests its trucks up against the competitors in its commercials most often
I like how they never actually showed us the payload 🤔
Neil Whitmore Any smart dealer would never try to conduct a bullshit test because then people would find out by trying to test their own trucks and sell them and buy the competitor. This is the one time where you don’t want to lie to your consumers.
Jake Thomas Have you seen that Chevy toolbox commercial?
Neil Whitmore fr.
It’s cuz Chevy is afraid to show that it can’t carry as much of a load than what a Ford can
Neil Whitmore I know right
You also don't want a truck to be as stiff as the Chevy under load, it can reduce traction. the torsional twist helps keep at least 3 wheels planted to the road. Chevy's and Dodges are notorious for cracked frames when plowing
Yeah but if you go up a little hill like the one in the video, the bed door doesn't get jammed as the Ford did. My Chevy has been through hills and back. She's outdid any Ford truck even in accidents.
+Cindy Conny When do you ever open your bed in a fucking ditch lol
Kevin Wayburn actually it's the consistent flexing that causes the snapped frames it's like grabbing steel and bending it back and forth until it snaps less flex is better which is why they snap ram had rust and a stress point at the front of the bed that would cause snapping
Less flex the better that's why you make sure your suspension is ok and working properly or upgrade it
love the F series id dominant at worksites arguments... a company that sees 2 trucks 1 cheaper and with
few short term problems is likely to chose it as they can save money that way. but it's like buying cheap tools you can buy manny and it doesn't matter if 1 breaks because you got another one you can throw at the jobb....
to many companies work this way..
I feel like this is inaccurate
I had a 2012 Ford Superduty and traded it for a redesigned and much stiffer framed 2017 Ford Superduty with the new high strength steel boxed frame. Yep, I can tell the difference.
Chevy's have so many issues, they actually installed a recall button in them.
Cardboard Sliver they shit Ford goof
Cardboard Sliver Chevy is now using Ford F series parts!!
@@streethazardz They can't be using F Series parts. GM trucks are still breaking down!
Really?
Atleast they have a recall button . Ford was too cheap to put one in
The ford bed is locked u can tell. My friend owns that truck I can tell when it’s locked
what about the dent was that fake too
@@volkanbulakbasi2000 yeah why was the camera already where the debt was
How u gon say its locked when the tailgate bent bro. U need to think
Why is evryone saying that the it was locked when that doesnt matter it still bent
No its not, its jammed against the bed, you can see that the gap between the tailgate and the bed is gone, the damn tailgate dented itself haha
im getting a chevy thats for sure 👍🏻
Big lol
I’d love to see them go against Ram but wait, maybe it’s because ram is better
That's why semis use a C-channel frame just like the Ford, it's because it works better....
Justin Walters Is that why the 2017 Fords have a boxed frame now?
Mrjoecreeper they still don't in their medium duty trucks, and whether or not Ford uses it now, it still stands that semis use an open C for the reason I listed, I would think that peterbilt and freightliner and Volvo and all of those companies would've figured out what's best by now.
Justin Walters I get what you're saying. But don't take any offense by this. Comparing their Medium Duty line and Semi-Trucks to Pickup trucks kind of redundant considering that the average Pickup will see more uneven roads than your average Semi or Medium Duty trucks. You know what I mean?
Justin Walters Because you really need that torsional rigidity when offloading your road tractor? Fuck off
main reasion rigs use C-channel's is because it saves weight, and the less the vehicle weigh the more you can haul, and the same load can be carried with less fuel consumption if it's lighter. i dont know about you but cant remember last time i saw a rig having to do some offroading to this extent.
notice that chevy NEVER competes against ram, only ford
That's because Fiat can't build a truck.
Because Ram is no competition, Chevy has been behind 20k units for the past idk how many years..
Flammable Icecream actually ford copied chevy
Anthony Fulmer yeah why
O think that ford is better than chevy that's why they are always trying to bash them
Oh my lord...
i have completely zero relation to all the truck topic but this video is such a nostalgia blast for me
in like 2012 when i was 7 i think ive seen this video randomly, probably due to yt recomendations being weird as always
So, did they add a few fish plates to the chevy? Or did they partially cut the fords frame?
Im a chevy guy all the way, but have personally seen and driven both trucks in similar situations, and have NOT seen a ford perform that badly, let alone crease the endgate. Somthing must be rigged here. They are both quality trucks, and in real situations neither will have a problem like this.
It is very seldon you would ever flex this hard unless you are either trying to demonstrate flex or are rock crawling. I can see this happening under extreme circumstances. Most trucks that crawl make some nasty noises in the chassis as they flex. Just watch any rock crawling video on youtube.
Thank you. I am a ford guy but at least one or two chevy guys actually understand the facts about ford. Ford and Chevy make their trucks differently and i have my reasons for liking ford over chevy but at least one chevy guy knows the facts and doesnt try to go with the Fix Or Repair Daily bullshit
I love Chevy and Ford all the way, but that was just a crappy video.
exactly
i got no problem with the chassis flexibility. i am a horse transporter, and i use that flexibility when i am pulling my 47 feet, 23.000 GVWR with 8 warm bloods of 1.300 pounds each one, specially when i am at the farms picking them up off road. in the past i drove a Sierra 3500 and i had no problem, it wasn't a bad truck, some little electric issues (nothing major), and the interior is not the nicest, but i change for a F450 king ranch cause i need a stronger rear axle, and it is amazing, a little slower, but more powerful on hills, it is almost 280.000 miles, and i had nothimg bad with it, just a problem with thw DEF sensor, and a leaking in the oil pan when it has around 180.000.
When you flex test a dually
Plot twist : you where just watching an ad for chevy
1:14 dont you love how they were zoomed in on exactly that part of the bed when it ''Bent'' coincidence i think not.
All they did is zoom in after they filmed
@@mikeoxlong9403 that's not a digital zoom it was filmed in 1080x720 the resolution would've looked terrible zooming in that far.
I was thinking the same thing.... Fake news!!
I'm thinking I might believe this test if it was someone like myth busters but not when it's done like a commercials.
@@mikeoxlong9403 u are a fan of chevy and cant admit Ford is better aren't ya
I love how people fight over brands. I LOVE Ford, Dodge, and Chevrolet (GM). Out of them they all have weaknesses and strengths. I like Chevrolet for towing, its low to the ground, comfortable, and unlike Dodge and Ford the Allison cannot be beaten, but I wouldn't take my Duramax offroad without a lift kit. I like my Dodge because you can't get the sound of a Cummins from anything else on the market, the nostalgic semi front end, and my 24v Cummins will outlast my Duramax and my 7.3 Stroke hands down. And my 7.3 stroke and 5.9 Cummins both are high off the ground, ride like haywagons, and have solid front axles so I play offroad with those two and haul four wheelers. Plus, my 36' Forest River 5th wheel is heavy and the Duramax with sling that rig all over the road, but my Cummins and Stroke just don't do that. They pull it don't get me wrong, but my Duramax will mop the floor with both my Cummins and powerstroke pulling that trailer while they remain unloaded. Love them all, the big 3, but you can't get the entire package in one truck. Never happen.
The new Rams with the cummins use AISIN transmissions, so as far as the powertrain goes I would put them above the GM at this point. I'm purely talking about the engine/trans. Rear ends are solid too.
Whatever company is doing the review there car is going to win
You need some flex in the bed, keeps the frame from cracking under stress
That’s what suspension is for. The bed isn’t supposed to flex.
@@andrewmclamb6984 I didn't realise, but you are in every comment defending chevy- for what? Its painfully obvious how staged and fake this is.
Also, suspension on both trucks has its limits. Once the chevy's suspension gets bottomed out- ting! The frame goes bye-bye. The Ford won't have that problem because excess energy is channeled into the bed.
And even if the bed gets damaged, it's a hell of a lot cheaper to replace a bed than an entire frame.
Wait it’s a chevy video?... oh oh okay just had to make sure it wasn’t a ford video.
at least my ford hasent had a brake-down yet i bet your chevys had atleast 99
You know its bias when there is a 1st party representative there...
And btw motortrend truck of the year is which company can pay motor trend the most award
3:03 Yep. I noticed that too. See how the left mount is not level. Its lower on the left and higher on the right. Big difference.
To be honest, chevy was really honest on this one. It’s just that they have put so many of these bs JD Power awards that nobody believes their ads anymore. Idk if I believe this for sure either!
Ford been making trucks longer than anybody in the business they only get better at making them its a reason they have the #1 selling truck in America 😂😂
The dodge brothers engineered and built all of the early Ford models, Henry only made the interiors.
Ford people be like 👆
@@collinhannagan1493 exactly
Gillette razors is the number one seller too. Disposable items sell more than high quality items.
Actually it’s not even just the number 1 truck, it’s the number 1 vehicle and has been for 42 years straight
All this ad does is speak to the ignorant masses that don’t understand trucks. Ford made their frames flexible as it’s the best way to be when under a load. Much like semi trucks with their flexible frames. Things that are too stiff can permanently warp or snap. Chevy has been pretty shady in these commercials cause our fleet of F-350s flex, but no where near this much.
I can already see the comments saying “he’s a FordFan let’s burn and kill him, what does he know” here’s my take on the truck war:
Buy the one that you like and shut up. The real war was 20 years ago. Now trucks are all the same.
That’s true Chevy there trucks and cheating sucks
Pretty much all the same now. I consider all the interiors to be the same as a damn prius. It's basically about exterior styling now. The most American made truck today is the Tundras and Tacomas, a Toyota.
True statement Ford Fan01.
U are a freaking moron.. Furds are junk... Ford stopped making c channel frames and went to boxed frame....don't you look stupid..get off internet dummy
Everything is bullshit the same today, every house looks the same and is built out of ticky tacky (Tract Homes) and vehicles all look like they want to look the same.
I’m a fan of Chevy so team Chevy
That is hands down the most compelling evidence I’ve seen to squash the ford vs chevy fued. At least concerning work trucks. I always assumed that they were substantially the same capabilities, quality, and that because they’re close in price it’s really a matter of brand loyalty. I was brought up with gmc/chevy so it’s hard to say, but if it was the other way around I don’t know how you could consciously buy the Ford after seeing that. The frame is hands down the most important part of a HD. I would’t dare drive that through a rough worksite with a substantial load. I remember seeing a few years back some videos of f150s sheared in half from a collision. I wasn’t sure what to make of it then but I do now. What garbage!
The Ford frame was made to flex. Chevy frame will snap in half
Chevy and gm is junk
I own 8 trucks. 4 Fords, 1 Dodge Ram, 1 Silverado HD(one used in this video) and a toyota tacoma. When you see the undercarriage on the Chevy in this video you see reinforcement struts. The Chevy (LTZ package) that I have does not have those reinforcement struts. I think that they reinforced it for the video. Although all car companies are at fault for this jackassery ford and dodge is still better.
TheMidwesterner West you mean 7 trucks
They probably have a "Mystery" Truck, that nobody talks about, just like everybody else.
Common Core Math should ask Santa, for an Overhaul.....And a Beer, In a Tree.
csrgatorfan you are my hero
csrgatorfan maybe the mystery truck was a ridgeline :p that's why he didn't mention it.....
how does this prove anything? The only benefit to the kind of test is maybe for rock crawling. Who is going to park their truck with two opposing wheels off the ground not to mention do it on purpose?
Fr 😂😂
+Viktor Step i
i can see how it would afffect it if you were working on a construction site with uneven ground but it must be really uneven for the bed not to open
yep, its all marketing shit, its like 2 pigs comparing stretch marks... why?? lol
even going through just small ditches puts your truck in that position and I take my 2011 Silverado on them on a daily basis and the tailgate hasn't broke yet. so therefore Ford is complete trash
I like both Fords and Chevys. Both perfect in my opinion.
A buddy of mine bought a new F150 back in 1999. It had that funny bump out on the back of the cab that actually hangs over the front of the box. Went on a trail one weekend and managed to get the cab to kiss the box when the frame flexed, Frame flex doesn't bother me but holy crap, Ford should have seen that one coming. All in all though, I feel Ford makes a good product.
I want a F-550 sitting in my drive way, that thing is a power plant. I can hook up my entire house to it in case of a power outage.
Drain you battery fast asf though.
torsional rigidity should be of a real world test. Not some ramps that keep the wheels off the ground. GM is always coming up with weird test like the "empty toolbox" pushed over the bedside but you can see on the commercial it punctures the GM bed also.
Good acting and good cut where you put heavier things in the ford btw I’m a Ford guy
Because we all know chevy has a good track record for not lying about how good their vehicles are.