I Played Kerbal Space Program 2: Is It Even Ready For Launch?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 มิ.ย. 2024
- I played KSP 2 at the European Space Agency in Noordwijk, Netherlands. I had some amazing moments and some not-so-amazing ones as well, but is the game really ready for release on February 24, 2023?
My Discord: / discord
KSP playlist: • Kerbal Space Program - เกม
Bro 5 years ago I went to a class where they taught us about rockets and stuff. We played ksp and tried to get to the moon. I really liked it and asked the instructor if I should get ksp. He said no because ksp 2 was coming out soon. That was five years ago but I’m still hyped.
Still better than gta6
@@nekrugderzweite8298 Facts.
real
@@nekrugderzweite8298 yeah, ksp 2 is actually gonna release
you did get ksp 1 anyway, right?
KSP 2 is nearly out, who's hyped? I have one more video coming ideally on the 22nd about my Duna mission!
Edit: I messed up a little, we were playing on a Ryzen 9 7900X, NOT a modern gen i7. Fortunately this mistake doesn't change my take on performance.
I'm quite excited for ksp 2
Trust me i couldnt be more hyped than i am right now
Yes, not because I wanted to play it, but just wanted to see how they improved graphics and physics and also what mad contraption you gonna create here)
My hype is on hold right now, until I see the price.
Me
idk about others but the PC minimum requirements are insane
My pc barely even runs stock ksp T-T
When I first saw the _recommended_ specs GPU being a 3080... Considering the amount of stuttering I've seen on this video and others from that event, and knowing what rigs they were using, it makes 'sense' that a 3080 is par. That said, it's absolutely nut that it's got to that point.
They made an explanation on the discord server, these specs are *only* for early access, their current priority is optimizing the game.
@@adamolanadamoldacc Considering the scope of what the best optimization-over-time I've ever seen in a videogame, it's not really promising.
it should be simple but the graphics will not look the same they will have to rewrite the shaders entirely
Of all the TH-camrs that have published videos on KSP 2 yours is the best. It’s concise, helpful, and gives us a good idea of what the game is going to be like in early access. The good and the bad.
I think it will be great, knowing this isn't the final game version. im no longer worried. Edit: Thank you everyone who replied and liked PS: i am not worried i just didn't want it to be bad which it isn't
It's not so bad provided they do the work to clean it up, which I think they will
I thought this game was releasing on "Early Access" terms, meaning things might be broken and later fixed and improved on?
compared to the first public release of ksp 1 this is - just not comparable
The final game version won't be for years.
@@ReidCaptain personally I'm really disappointed I can't even play this game though...
I mean you can't either you need a new PC , we have similar specs I have a 1660 super and a i5-10500
11:28 that performance is absolutely disastrous........ Oh boy. Well, lets hope in a few years this game is what was promoised...
and those are some massive pcs
@CelestialCrab yeah that's entirely the devs poor optimization it's likely just un optimized unity graphics
@@jzjzjzj probaply more of a everything runs in a single thread with way too much physicy problem
@schrenjamins stift I'm pretty sure someone said ksp was multi threaded do we have any idea If it is actually single threaded?, the reason the publisher made ksp 2 was to modernize it for more profit seems kinda dumb they'd make it single threaded
performance optimization is usually towards the end ofdevelopment : this is an alpha build
One more thing, when you said “realistic” engine noises, those are real engine noises they went and actually recorded real rockets taking off to get those
I didnt hear the supersonic crackle
@@niallmccaffrey791 bruh 😔
@@niallmccaffrey791 Hmm, SUPERSONIC, i wonder why...
its great to see actual gameplay for this game! and even better from my favorite youtuber!
Ground scatter apparently wasn't physical. Buggy just drove straight through 😞
It will be on release, it was turned off for us
@@ReidCaptain great
@@ReidCaptain why?
they need to make the engine plume emit light in the night time. It looked great in the first game and I'm sure it would look great in the second as well.
I think the important thing to remember for anyone saying its a downgrade or overhyped is that this is a direct sequel to a game that (IMO) revolutionized space travel games. certainly the first of its kind I knew of. My understanding is that KSP didn't have the huge following on launch that KSP 2 has, nor did it have all the expectations attached to it.
In addition, if you were to take a look back at KSP's release build, I imagine it would be even worse than what I've seen in KSP 2's release build (based off the videos I've seen). That isn't to say KSP's release build was bad, but it certainly had its quirks, just like any early access release. Even with the issues the sequel seems to be suffering from, I'm hopeful its going to be polished into something really worthy of the community its predecessor had.
Absolutely, it has some rough edges but it is more than playable and extremely enjoyable
Yep. Agreed. This definitely isn't "up to snuff" yet, and the EA build is going to be a bumpy ride for sure. However, bugs can be fixed, and QOL features can be added, so I'm not worried about those points too much.
The performance issue is the biggest one I'm worried about, and if the game doesn't get *massive* framerate improvements (I'm talking doubling or even more), then we'll have many players just never switching to KSP2 over KSP1. Unless we can build ships bigger and better (meaning more part counts) and get at least comparable performance, we're going to see many players sticking with KSP1
@@Krydax8 I can agree with that. I've watched a bunch of videos, and what I saw as far as statistics go, less than 35% of steam users have the minimum spec, and less than 4% have the recommended specs if I remember correctly. I'd wager that if the devs want to be nearly as successful as the original with this iteration of the title, they're going to need to really focus on optimization, if nothing else, for a reasonably sized player base.
Surely the expectations being higher has nothing to do with the price tag going from 7 dollars for KSP 1 to 50 for KSP 2 (with less features than base ksp not even talking about the dlc)? Not to mention the difference in investment both groups had? Cope a bit harder but this launch looks like a flop to me, I hope I'm proven wrong but wow does it look bad for what they ask. On a side note, post creation optimization is basically impossible, you might be able to get a frame or two extra if you put in the effort but optimization needs to be done from the beginning or you're just doing double the work for no reason.
KSP 1 was, for the longest time, developed by a small team of developers.
KSP 2 is developed by a AAA studio, who are owned by take two, an 18 billion dollar company.
I see a lot of people making comparisons similar to yours, and I don't think it's very fair. Furthermore, I don't think its unreasonable to have higher expectations for KSP 2, especially considering the delays. We shouldn't defend publishers rushing developers into releasing an unfinished product, early access or not.
Other than the obvious performance issues and bugs, my only issue is the flight ui. Mainly the fact the the timewarb and sas bubble seem the be permanently on the screen rather than toggleable. The flight ui is already cluttered as is, and having these, which are way smaller in ksp1 and are implemented perfectly there, really annoys me.
I'm glad you mentioned the adaptive music, that's been my favourite part along with the launch sequence.
Other than the fact that the clouds in this game look comparably uglier than that one volumetric cloud mod for KSP 1.
This game looks stunning. And fun! Can't wait for the release!
I’m just worried about interstellar travel. And the whole resource aspect. Man I hope they pull it off this game looks so dope.
Still super excited about this game. Have you tried any of the training? They said the game should be way more newbie-friendly.
I wanted to, but I just didn't have time. I'll check them out on the 24th
I bought the game and have never played KS1, total noob besides general interest in space travel. The tutorials are a lot of fun and very informative, which is a great accomplishment, because in most games they suck. There are about 20 tutorials and I completed all of them.
I think the Game looks incredible, but the bad Performance is for me pretty much unacceptable, like wtf, 10fps with an 4080?!
Think u mean 3080 but it is, it's comical
@@jzjzjzjno they were 4080s as confirmed by matt lowne and everyday astronaut
@sonicpokemaster1 Jesus h christ it's hard to believe, it's impressive the performance is that mediocre with like the best graphics card available
Sounds like they need to give QA a bit more time before launch. More likely though seems like it'll be a buggy lanuch and they'll fixed stuff more along the way. I would encourage people not to blame the devs for bugs as it's basically always the publisher rushing the game out that leads to buggy lanuchs.
Buggy launches are also common for physics heavy games, the first ksp wasn't an easy launch too there were bugs everywhere
@@polydullmemes3497 and still has because well y'know golf ball rockets?
The game launched in early access so that they can fix bugs using feedback... dont consider this the actual launch its an early access why do people never take this seriously youre acting like this is cyber punk where they fully launched the game no this is only the bare basics of the game in a very early stage so that they can get feedback and fix bugs. The best part about early access is seeing the game improve in real time.
Poor little developers. The most opressed race in society. 100% no cap
Publisher and Dev are the same company here :D
IDK why you people keep trying to seperate the two.
Rule No. 1 ... Do not buy brand new games.
This isn't even brand new, this is early access. This is the prototype that didn't explode when it was turned on.
In this case is even worse. On August 19, 2019 the trailer for this game was released, stating "coming soon". Almost 4 years have passed and the game is still in a precarious state, with no content and no optimization. It is very likely that it will never be finished.
@@TlalocTemporal why would you fly people to europe to see that? then only give them 3 hours with it.
@@niallmccaffrey791 -- That's a good question. This early access is being a hyped up like a full release of a AAA game (albeit a small one), and alongside the full price of $50, I don't like it.
I will mention that allowing third parties to play the game doesn't just serve as free advertising, but also as a trusted look at the sate of the game. Other games do this by having a special press release several days before the public launch, so the decision to fly everyone to a single location for a 3 hour look is odd.
On one hand, it was in partnership with ESA at a spaceflight museum; on the other hand, 3 hours is a pretty closed look, and even that exposed several trivial bugs. I suspect the real reason for the single location is so that the press was playing on ideal systems, which not many of them normally have access to.
Mod KSP1 with EVE, Scatterer and Parallax and you basically have this game. Throw in Galaxies Unbound or some other planet packs for interstellar travel and there you go. Probably runs better too.
With less expensive hardware to boot
with more content no less, since KSP2 won't have any other modes than sandbox at launch and none of the DLC stuff from the first game. If Scott Manley's right about the $50 price tag, it's probably best to wait with this game until it's in a more finished state.
@@plebisMaximus The price *will* go up when it's in a more finished state, though.
From what I can tell the music and graphics are the absolute strong points of the game, but the gameplay definitely needs more development
Yeah who care about graphics or music. I can run youtube in the backround for music or spotify. Graphics dont mater cause most pc wont get to use them and the FPS and performance is far more important to the KSP commuinty.
@@XGDoctorwho i do care, bro if you are able to hear then you should know how sound design is important while playing games like this
The graphic of the Kerbin looks ugly in close up. Look at the trees. I did not see such ugly trees in the last 10-15 years.
Dude forgot to mention that the career mode, science, and atmospheric heating are all missing. Wonder what else is missing that we aren't being told about. Flying folk all the way to Europe certainly gets them excited, so 10/10 for fueling the hype train, but then giving them only 3 hours and even then asking them to blur out certain things says a lot about how unfinished the product actually is.
@@FlameBot >I did not see such ugly trees in the last 10-15 years.
What fuckin games are you looking at?
Reaction wheels were unrealistically strong in the first game
Exactly, that's one change I actually like.
Its gonna be so annoying hauling all the moprop now though
I love how the blurring and the roundness of the rock asset just make it look like a penis.
It appears the kraken has found a new home
Finally we can rid of him in KSP 1 :D
@@groundhoppingwlkp3622 Unless it's just his offspring
As soon as they showed off the improved graphics i immediately went "Yep. This is gonna be one of those youtuber-only games."
12:40 proceeds to watch slide show, then he says he didn't see any lag spikes... RIP KSP
Sir constant lag and a lag spike are different things
@@ReidCaptain think i saw your frame rate drop from 3 frames per second to 2 frames per second a few times
@@ReidCaptain cant frame spike if you cant frame
Good to know that this was some time ago and that they most likely huffed out a lot of these bugs
The performance and kraken are my main concern. Hoping to see a newer build soon and see how that performs. I have an RTX 2060 Super.
Best KSP2 review so far. Thank you.
i was hoping they would make performance with big ships better, not worse.
pretty disappointing
Yeah, knowing they started from the ground up and went the unity route again rang alarm bells
@@kapytanhook iirc unity is shi* with large number of objects, if at all you have to use the ECS or switch to unreal. Mono Behaviour is not optimised for more objects.
1. its a build that isnt even the early access build that we will be getting when it releases on steam, it was before that
2. they said on the discord that optimization is a major goal for early access
3. its early access
What did you expect? The graphics are way ahead of KSP 1, it's also a 1440p monitor, why would the framerate be better. With visual mods like EVE and scatterer KSP 1 still doesn't look as good, and then I get about 20fps when launching a 150part ship. Thats with a RTX 2080s with a 1080p monitor.
It would make no sense for it to have better framerate with the same cards.
@@aetheriox463 Doesn't matter. They spent all this time making it on an unsuitable game engine. They can fiddle up all the little optimisations they want but it they can't fix the handicap from using unity for a game like this.
I didn't know you were also there, amazing
There should be a super depressing music track of you crash lol
This is a really good video going over ksp2, no holding back when talking about performance compared to other youtubers I have seen
2023 requires volumetric wheel physics. I can't believe what I'm seeing.
1:00 Extra attention to graphics, the rocket exhaust doesnt even light up the ground
The engine is not capable of doing this. It's more than 5 years old. Same with Farming Simulator.
Dang. This is the first time I got a look at the minimum and recommend hardware specs. I get that optimisation takes time but I don’t think I want to upgrade my gpu for this..
This is looking incredibly, only issue is no lemons.
We are watching.
Wow I'm really happy for you man congrats on being one of the first players. But still: When will you make a helicopter???? ;-; I've been waiting for months
They are planning on adding auto strut
Makes you wonder why it wasn't there to begin with though. Original release being 2020 in their minds we should've been three years into the game by now and only now they say: Ow this basic and essential feature of the first game will make its way into the sequel. Talk about fumbling a perfectly good title
@@Joostmhw I always feel like people like you, so Mr. Everything Is Terrible And There is No Hope make this world such a worse place
try RCS - reaction wheels have always been ridiculously OP in KSP1 - looks like the devs have made things a lil bit more realistic.
You have a point, but I enjoyed them being super strong
The number of struts is OVER 9000!
I gotta play this just for the sounds and music
cant wait till full release to let my laptop fly to the moon itself
13:08 STEEP?? THATS A FUCKING CLIFF
“It looks better” sums it up entirely.
The only game that will top the “can it run crisis” joke
This is probably the most detailed information providing video I’ve seen so far. I want to express a large amount of appreciation for that: thank you for all the work you’ve done with this video and for sharing your experience here in it.
Performance issues I think are related to particle effects from engine exhaust
i am still excited for it but not as much as i was back in 2019 tbh
I really hope they add changable graphics, because it looks like there's only a slim ammount of players that will enjoy a smooth gameplay :/
Five poly models mode. 90s smooth shading mode.
64x64 textures mode.
From watching a matt lone video on the subject: I believe that they arent allowed to change the graphics settings.
in the actual release there will be graphics sliders, every game has them. plus, they said that optimization is a main goal and they know the minimum required specs are quite high, so we will see
bruh, the lag clearly isnt because of the graphics. Its because of the physics calculations.
I feel like its a little cluttered but the better graphics makes it up however my computer is probably going to die if i try to play KSP2
I am liking the UI. It had grown on me a lot. Thought it was weird but, yeh I like it.
I got a ksp2 ad before this video
bro reid captain touches the game and he already makes the most insane and slightly phalic designs you will ever see
RIP Star Theory
Planning to buy it even thought I do not even have minimal requiraments.
I played KSP when it was barely more than a tech demo, so I know they will absolutely work ok KSP 2 until it's exactly what it should be
It’s not the same people who made the first game
@@bensosnowski1128 That's okay, they seem to have the same spirit
@@bensosnowski1128 Most of them are the same.
@@xPandamon having same spirit is not what funds the studio....
Do they want to make KSP2 as they imagined it? Yeah. Will they manage to do that? Hard to know, considering they release early access that's straight up downgrade over current original, meaning they probably need funding, meaning if it sells badly the development momentum might drop...
rip spaceplane hangar, you'll be missed
I wonder, is it really the struts causing lag? Or is it the fact that all these boosters are producing a godlike amount of particles?
We have to also remember that this is just the dev build of the game, and the finish product they release at launch will likely have way better performance
I’m so excited for the new wings
I have one question: will you be finally able to recover detached stages?
You can do that in ksp 1?
@@Joostmhw Not without mods. When you get far enough from detached part, the physics turns off, and game just detects it crushing into the planet (even with parachutes).
New footage = wow
Hahah I got an ad for the game once the video ended!
8:15 that’s just funny. It’s also very kerbal, I wouldn’t be mad at all if I tried to move my plane or vehicle just for that to happen 🤣
You're still my favourite youtuber :D
I hope this can run on an overclocked lemon like the first game.
Amazing ! Can't wait for ksp2 having around 800hrs on ksp1.
What about mods like kOS ?
Yeah, I'll have to wait and see an actual review or something of what the launch product will be, I'm not excited at this point, and I say that as an original backer of KSP1.
What I got from this video is that performance will be pretty rough for a lot of people with normal hardware, just keep that in mind please my dudes.
That or they can't play it at all.
Hey Reid, if you get your hands on a headset can you check out kerbal space program vr?
I'm still excited for it to eventually be great but, it's hard to believe this is what they're initially releasing after over 4 years of development.
KSP1 with a few mods does pretty much everything shown, and a lot more, like career mode, science, and atmospheric heating (all of which the video creator decided to not mention.. maybe cos he liked his trip to europe?).
@@niallmccaffrey791 >like career mode, science, and atmospheric heating
Again, KSP 1 lacked all three for a long time. It has the full star system, FAR more parts than KSP 1 started out with, and you can actually LAND on bodies that arent Kerbin.
I can only guess what that "rock" was lmao.
I will probably not buy it at launch but this is looking pretty good. Hope my potato can run it sort of.
I'm sorry but it won't, you're in the same boat as 90% of us
If you have a gtx 1070 ti then you maybe can run it on low settings
@@adityaramadhan1708 ''maybe''
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0:46
The one on the right is cleaner. Hoping modders add all the original UI. Look for yourself at how much cleaner and more obvious the prograde marker is on the right.
Nah i definitely like the left one more, right one just feels old. You're right on that though, the prograde marker is not too noticeable
I'd like to find out. Sadly, my pc that can play KSP1 with visual mods up to the gills isn't good enough for it lol
Forget The Kraken, we have THE CELESTIAL ROCK
I got a KSP 2 ad for this video💀
11:50 Honestly, allowing parts to "bend" should be optional, in my opinion it just makes performance worse
100000% agree, literally dont see why its there. Just 'weld' the whole thing together and only let joints bend.
when will you start putting cones on your solid fuel boosters?
I think they need to tone the graphics down a bit, I personally think the game running smooth is better than looking good
I'm so sad that my PC is below the minimum spec to play KSP2. I guess I'll have to stick to watching others play for now.
L pfp 🗿
Im sure that after a few months when more optimization is eorked on many more people will be able to play.
Be happy you cant buy into the hype and have your dreams crushed by yet another sub par launch :3
@@Briskyyy let's hope lmao
@@Joostmhw I mean, it's early access. I wasn't exactly expecting too much lol
It looks so good 😭
finally its almost here
i broke space lol the game hard locked on the loading screen when i went into the tracking station after kerbin and all the other planets disappeared and my rocket teleported to the center of where kerbin used to be
The struts issue is funny to me, as I NEVER use autostrut. Like I have never used it in the thousands of hours I've played KSP. I can do it myself pretty effectively so I never bothered.
i have this game on wish list i enjoyed first game
I live near Noordwijk pretty cool place 👍
Fantastic video. I’ve been playing the game since Friday morning. I feel that the game gets and unfair shake because of its bugs and quirks. Throughout the first day playing, I got frustrated a couple times with how unpolished the game felt, trying to launch, my rockets were super unstable and noodley and it was hard getting accurate maneuvers past the million meter mark because of the UI. However, I have learned ways to work around and mitigate a lot of the issues I ran into.
That being said the game reminds me a lot of Early KSP1 I’ve been playing since 2012 and even after having played the game for so long, I still forget how quirky the early builds of KSP was. It’s worth remembering this is a new development team who trying to rebuild the game we all love from the ground up. The game is not worth the $50 price tag at the moment, but I think the game has enough potential to be a worthy successor that’s worth every penny.
>my rockets were super unstable and noodley
Oh yeah, pro-tip. Use struts. Autostrutting isnt ingame yet. That's exactly a problem KSP 1 had til that was added.
so apart from bug fixing, the few things truly missing right now are features that they have already implemented to KPS 1, whish is great news. this means that those features will most likely be implemented relatively early on, they just haven't made them a priority yet.
I just hope they are able to optimize it…. Quite a bit… seeing that fps comparison from ksp1 to ksp2 is crazy 🤣! Though I do think the struts played a big part
" this means that those features will most likely be implemented relatively early on" - source, im on the hypetrain return ticket so I make stuff up.
@@mememachine5244 salty that your PC won't handle it aren't ya ? I'm probably not even gonna play KSP 2, it just seems like a perfectly logical conclusion that a feature they already developed wouldn't be too hard to remake. they may or may not implement it early, that only time will tell, but what matters is that the glaring issues that exist right now are solvable.
@@V8chump yeah, optimisation is gonna be the biggest issue for sure, if they can't optimize it to hell and back I don't think auto-struts alone are gonna cut it.
@@ledocteur7701 u drinkin the weird juice my friend
Im just very concerned it will take more than 6 months to release these “miles stones”
I'll be absolutely studden if they have multiplayer before 2026
Stunned*
@@kapytanhook it isnt releasing with multiplayer?????
@@GriziDaWiz no, they decided to do early Alpha and release with a roadmap. Multiplayer is all the way at the end.
@@kapytanhook why are they releasing with so little features???
It’s looking like I could do all this and more with mods on ksp 1 and have a stable frame rate too.
Man that is a huge bummer, multiplayer was the main hype for me.
I feel another no man's sky or cyberpunk launch here
Um, the engine didn't even light up the runway. It just looks like higher resolution textures.
i wonder when sum amazing builds are made in KSP2 i want to see like the falcon ship from star wars to be made in this game (also reid am asking again to make a mech in besiege)
Wait is that the strongest shape?
What im happy about is how hands-on the devs are. They seem to be testing the game and capturing weaknesses and actively looking to better the game. Baring in mind that this is ground zero makes me happy because it can only get better from here... hopefully.
Not necessarily. If performance is this bad already, how are they going to add the atmospheric heating? What other parts of the game are gimped or totally missing? Science and career mode are missing. How will any of that be added when the game runs like dogshit already
@@niallmccaffrey791 yeah I’m scared about interstellar travel. Those “big” rockets were causing a good lag. Couldn’t imagine a massive rocket.
@@Nodnarb69 you dont have to worry, there's no interstellar travel in it.
@@dash9655 huh?…… ok lol
@@Nodnarb69 they havent added it. they havent added colonies. they havent added atmospheric heating, career mode, science... the game is just barely playable. for 50 bucks, no way
I just want to know what the rock looked like.
I challenge you to land on gilly only using vernor engines (KSP 1)
I think this will be amazing, just the performance HAS to be improved on. most people don't have rtx cards.
Just 5% of Steam users fulfill the minimum requirements.
Glad it's early access so we don't have to wait any longer lol. Still a bit upset about how incomplete it is.
I have a serious concern about early access. Who is there to guarantee that they will actually finish it? 2K? is one of the worst publishers, it would not surprise me if 1 year from now they call it finished and then continue releasing bits as DLC for extra money