Way too buggy. As per typical for modern game studios, just a cash grab offering it up for early access before it's even close to ready for it. Early access should be, the game is done but you might find a bug or two, not game isn't really done and you will definitely find lots of bugs. And it doesn't even really look much different to the OG game. Certainly not worth the AAA game asking price, even without the bugs.
the surface can exist however it would not be rigid solid like terrestrial planets it would me more like swimming in syrup, or water since the pressures would be so high the gases would come together making a patch dense enough to act as a fluid so im implying, *you can swim.. in the air*
@@Arandomperson28769 it can be possible. Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune, could be gaseous ocean worlds where gas acts as a liquid and goes solid as you go deeper
In gas vivants you’ll eventually reach a liquid sea of hydrogen and helium, going even deeper you’ll reach a solid core made of solid hydrogen and helium, and hypothetically deep enough you’ll reach a core of metallic hydrogen.
Honestly i had a moment where i forgot that Jool was a gas giant, so i thought the title was basically saying "is it possible to build a rover without the kraken attackin in ksp2" lol
in the original ksp jool did have a surface at some point before it was removed so it is likely that in a future ksp2 update jool will no longer have a surface.
welp, if you disable heating and breaking in settings it still has a surface, but seems to completely break comms for all SOI crafts there. Even if I tried to teleport back to Kerbin, still couldn't transmit.
I hope they add multiple layers of clouds on Jool before you ultimately get crushed by the pressure, instead of just having a solid surface that fuels my theory that Jool is a post-apocalyptic Earth
@@montairplane Wouldn't they only rip off if the pressure changed suddenly? I'm not familiar with how it works in KSP 2 but in KSP 1 pressure limits aren't on by default (to my knowledge at least) so the parts would only fail from dynamic pressure
They should've had the surface be WAAAAAAAY further down, it is WAY to close, it would easily classify jool as a rocky planet. While gas giants are thought to have surfaces deep down, jupiter, for example, would have a surface around the size of earth, meaning the rocky part of the planet is only a small percentage of a percentage. Jool (in KSP2), on the other hand, is more in line with venus, while its atmosphere is very thick, it only takes up a small percentage of its total mass.
that landing system is so overkill lol. the rover is so light and wheels have such a high inpact tolerance that is can land on its own, or just attach an inflatable heatshield for some extra drag if you really want
Well, it's really not, because it is believed thet gas giants turn from gas to liquid to solid, and diving into it will destroy you becouse on the "surface" of gas giant pressure is kazillion atmospheres and temperature is thousands (probably) of degrees
While gas giants do *likely* have solid cores - they are also *much* farther down than Jool's surface. Furthermore, they are likely well below a thick ocean of supercritical fluid. The pressure and temperature at the surface of a gas giant would rip apart and melt even the hardiest of alloys and composites we have discovered. So, for all intents and purposes, it is not possible to land on the surface of a gas giant.
Less parachutes may actually work better. You would have a higher speed through the atmosphere and that extra speed could cause the parachuted to deploy properly
I'm pretty sure Jool actually has less gravity than Kerbin. It does in the first game at least (0.8g), and I don't see why that'd be changed in the second - orbital velocity is higher not because there's a higher surface gravity but because it's at a larger radius. If you think about how an orbit is essentially falling and missing the ground, you've got to miss by a lot more to avoid hitting something bigger. And Jool *does* have more *mass*, it's just that gravity falls off with distance and so at its larger radius you feel less of it
@@Pantomas-PG That's only true if you consider the exact same central object for both. For example, Methone orbits Saturn at nearly twice the velocity the space station does Earth, even though Saturn's surface gravity is about the same as the Earth's and Methone's orbit is 30x wider than the ISS. The reason for this can be thought of as coming from the fact Saturn has more mass despite having the same gravity, but it can also be thought of as coming from the larger radius in the way I described previously.
Dumb question but...if the atmosphere is that soupy could a plane not have worked as a lander like the space shuttle but designed for soup? Genuinely no idea.
@@Intelligentmoron Gas giants do have solid cores, though. Just not possible for any machine to survive the intense weather what with the pressure so extreme gas becomes indistinguishable from liquid and wind strong enough to rip up mountains.
@@wegner7036 yes but that would be much further in jool then it’s showing here plus, I think it would be more realistic with the ksp1 solution of crushing your rocket before you touch any thing
@@Intelligentmoron If they added in specialized parts for the pressure, theoretically you could have an ocean-like area, with the gaseous clouds turning into a liquid hydrogen and helium sea. That's about as far down as you'd be able to go though, I don't think, even stretching it that far, that you'd ever reach the metallic hydrogen core.
"and its gravity is a lot higher" well at least in KSP1 its actually less than kerbin at 0.8G, although I dont know if this is changed for ksp2, although it most likely isnt bc it would mean different orbital speeds for the moons which would be different
cant wait until ksp2 isnt broken so i can play it without crying
Softie
@@Goober_____ I can't blame him, Its a bad game (but not to the point of crying)
@@q_nx2321 yeah
@@q_nx2321 its a joke man nobody gonna cry over ksp
@@Goober_____ its a joke
KSP has many glitches and unintended behaviours, but it seems as though the 2 in KSP2 just doubles them.
I'm pretty sure that's actually a typo, KSP^2 makes a lot more sence
Way too buggy. As per typical for modern game studios, just a cash grab offering it up for early access before it's even close to ready for it. Early access should be, the game is done but you might find a bug or two, not game isn't really done and you will definitely find lots of bugs. And it doesn't even really look much different to the OG game. Certainly not worth the AAA game asking price, even without the bugs.
@@BladeScraper people need money to develop games and patch bugs, how do you expect the devs to completely finish a game with no income
@@carpet3827 You just forget they have a whole nother game to pull revenue from?
@@carpet3827No they had money and time they just wanted money
the surface can exist however it would not be rigid solid like terrestrial planets
it would me more like swimming in syrup, or water since the pressures would be so high
the gases would come together making a patch dense enough to act as a fluid
so im implying, *you can swim.. in the air*
what?
@@Arandomperson28769 it can be possible. Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune, could be gaseous ocean worlds where gas acts as a liquid and goes solid as you go deeper
except for the part of, ya know, death?
In gas vivants you’ll eventually reach a liquid sea of hydrogen and helium, going even deeper you’ll reach a solid core made of solid hydrogen and helium, and hypothetically deep enough you’ll reach a core of metallic hydrogen.
@@DoubsGaming Death is a small price to pay for ✨Metalic Hydrogen✨
Honestly i had a moment where i forgot that Jool was a gas giant, so i thought the title was basically saying "is it possible to build a rover without the kraken attackin in ksp2" lol
Erm akshually, Jool is the size of earth, so it’s not a gas giant 🤓
@@RamanNoodles01 WAIT WHAT
@@The_DemonKing yeah, lol
@@RamanNoodles01 Me playing RSS
in the original ksp jool did have a surface at some point before it was removed so it is likely that in a future ksp2 update jool will no longer have a surface.
why would they copy early ksp and put a surface in? they put it in as a reference to jools invisible surface that still exists in ksp 1.
@@MichaelissimoOverdrive Because they just made a regular planet for early release…?
welp
@@skyler948 yeah ksp2 has no future now.
welp, if you disable heating and breaking in settings it still has a surface, but seems to completely break comms for all SOI crafts there. Even if I tried to teleport back to Kerbin, still couldn't transmit.
Always mind-melting to see you pushing the boundaries of KSP mechanics ❤
(Again)
I hope they add multiple layers of clouds on Jool before you ultimately get crushed by the pressure, instead of just having a solid surface that fuels my theory that Jool is a post-apocalyptic Earth
Correct me if I'm wrong but i think a plane like a space shuttle would have been easier, because the surface looks flat enough to land on
Perhaps, but Jools atmo is extremely thick so it'd probably rip off the wings and end up crashing into the ground.
@@montairplane Wouldn't they only rip off if the pressure changed suddenly? I'm not familiar with how it works in KSP 2 but in KSP 1 pressure limits aren't on by default (to my knowledge at least) so the parts would only fail from dynamic pressure
5:59 oh no, not the unfortunate shape
No
Reid will stop at nothing to break games
Next - Can You Land a Rover on the Clouds in Kerbal Space Program 2?
"I started to do a gravity turn here"
*Automatically shatters like glass*
Since kerbals can make it to the surface without dying id love see a jool rescue mission
5:58 careful man
ksp2 moment
Is it even a rover if its on a gas giant
Apparently so
making it land like the an40 was supposed to land might have been a lot easier
Love ur vids keep up 👍
i think that even Jupiter has some surface because its gasses compressed into a surface
It doesn’t seem like the surface has terrain to me, it just has a texture for whatever reason (and collision ofc)
do you know if the texture is unique
@@1000-THR No idea
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was just a green coloured retexture placeholder thing
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They should've had the surface be WAAAAAAAY further down, it is WAY to close, it would easily classify jool as a rocky planet. While gas giants are thought to have surfaces deep down, jupiter, for example, would have a surface around the size of earth, meaning the rocky part of the planet is only a small percentage of a percentage. Jool (in KSP2), on the other hand, is more in line with venus, while its atmosphere is very thick, it only takes up a small percentage of its total mass.
The fact jool has lighter gravity than kerbin
I couldn't imagine I would live to the age when kerbonauts would CANONICALLY land on jool
yeah, try launching off from the surface of jool
that landing system is so overkill lol. the rover is so light and wheels have such a high inpact tolerance that is can land on its own, or just attach an inflatable heatshield for some extra drag if you really want
In KSP 1 get a Class E asteroid in to orbit of gilly
Now, this is actually kinda logical; gas giants are believed to have a solid core.
Well, it's really not, because it is believed thet gas giants turn from gas to liquid to solid, and diving into it will destroy you becouse on the "surface" of gas giant pressure is kazillion atmospheres and temperature is thousands (probably) of degrees
i dont think thats any close to the core
While gas giants do *likely* have solid cores - they are also *much* farther down than Jool's surface. Furthermore, they are likely well below a thick ocean of supercritical fluid. The pressure and temperature at the surface of a gas giant would rip apart and melt even the hardiest of alloys and composites we have discovered. So, for all intents and purposes, it is not possible to land on the surface of a gas giant.
@@tales9476they need to add this in KSP2
Fun fact: jool has a thicc gas and it has Land that looks like a astroriod
Oh, jool used to have a surface in the original game too, don't know why they removed it but I'm glad to see they added it back in
Because it's a gas giant
@@new_simsons yeah, but it's funny
Have been waitin for this my entire life
"local billionaire makes awkwardly shaped rocket powered by Decouplers to fly to nearby planet, killing hundreds of Kerbins test after test "
That’s certainly an unconventional way to go about it lol
brb mom, gonna go set up an interplanetary base on jupiter
Watching you fall into that gas giant triggers some uncomfortable feelings in me, and i don't know how to explain it
I think a glider would’ve been the best way to do this
5:59 i almost had a heart attack
Less parachutes may actually work better. You would have a higher speed through the atmosphere and that extra speed could cause the parachuted to deploy properly
Nvm. You proved that wouldn’t work later lol.
3:50 you say that while the game perfectly execute a third axis flip haha not Copter related, but really cool!
So, what was the "hidden secret?" The planet having a surface?
I challenge you to land on gilly only using vernor engines (KSP 1)
You could make a rover that can't fall over
Great job, now send a rover to Sun
i... uh... i mean, i guess i can't be mad at you because it worked... but that was... certainly kerbal
Next video:making logic gates in poly bridge
7:18
Normally, this wouldn't work with such a thick atmosphere
I'm pretty sure Jool actually has less gravity than Kerbin. It does in the first game at least (0.8g), and I don't see why that'd be changed in the second - orbital velocity is higher not because there's a higher surface gravity but because it's at a larger radius. If you think about how an orbit is essentially falling and missing the ground, you've got to miss by a lot more to avoid hitting something bigger.
And Jool *does* have more *mass*, it's just that gravity falls off with distance and so at its larger radius you feel less of it
Wrong: Low orbits are fast while Hig Orbits are slow
@@Pantomas-PG That's only true if you consider the exact same central object for both. For example, Methone orbits Saturn at nearly twice the velocity the space station does Earth, even though Saturn's surface gravity is about the same as the Earth's and Methone's orbit is 30x wider than the ISS.
The reason for this can be thought of as coming from the fact Saturn has more mass despite having the same gravity, but it can also be thought of as coming from the larger radius in the way I described previously.
You should have kept the smaller grid find on top and kept it like that
Videos Idea: saving the jool kerbin
5:59 imagine if he added a fourth fin here
See how fast you can launch a lone kerbal
A good day when you make a ksp video
5:58 bro did a 3 spoke forbhidden sign 💀
i think it is a compressed hydrogen ocean
Why they name the smoke planet juul though
j-O-O-l is how you spell it
cool
Dumb question but...if the atmosphere is that soupy could a plane not have worked as a lander like the space shuttle but designed for soup? Genuinely no idea.
now get the kerbal BACK
MAKE THE PANELS A SWASTIK-
the surface of jool actually looks really cool. i wonder if they'll add more stuff on it?
I really think it’s just a placeholder wouldn’t make much sense to add a surface to a gas giant
@@Intelligentmoron Gas giants do have solid cores, though. Just not possible for any machine to survive the intense weather what with the pressure so extreme gas becomes indistinguishable from liquid and wind strong enough to rip up mountains.
@@wegner7036 yes but that would be much further in jool then it’s showing here plus, I think it would be more realistic with the ksp1 solution of crushing your rocket before you touch any thing
@@Intelligentmoron If they added in specialized parts for the pressure, theoretically you could have an ocean-like area, with the gaseous clouds turning into a liquid hydrogen and helium sea. That's about as far down as you'd be able to go though, I don't think, even stretching it that far, that you'd ever reach the metallic hydrogen core.
@@merp9610 I will admit, that would be cool and also more realistic then just surface
r.i.p reid captain gpu
Please make a bipedal mechanical walker in this game which can be piloted by the kerbel
Now recover the rover
I have an idea! Send the rover in the thumbnail to Jool.
I have a teory why there is a surface on jool and i thinck that the surface is actually is core becouse even your gas giant as a solid core
5:59 🚆😳🚆🚆🚆🚆🚆🚆🚆🚆🚘🚆oh🚗🚅🚅🚅🚅🚅🚅🚅
-the heck?!?!
yay
Yippee
@@ReidCaptain yahoo
I really need to get this game.
Don't, get KSP1 the sequel is a buggy mess
Why’d they add a surface to jool
Heck if i know.
This game needs something akin to FFT to optimize it
tomfoolery
try and colinize minmus
PLEAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if the atmosphere is so thick, why didn't you just put on some wings and glide down?
Reid, would you consider doing builds in Legends of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom?
5:59 Ahem... quiet sus...
off brand nile red
but good vid
do you know how to fix the low fps when looking down at any celestial body (Kerbin, the Mun, etc.)? It’s so bad
11:52 Bruh whats the point of landing legs if you decouple them
wait so is there not air brakes in ksp 2?
3:37 why are you become FAN
Do I keep hearing "years" instead of "meters" or is it just me?
hi
Hi
wait why did you even add the landing gear
Couldn’t you have used jet engines to slow down? Jool has a huge thick atmosphere, then again I only tried it in ksp1 I don’t have ksp2
no oxygen to power the jet engines
@@nether_bat also wouldn't you need the intakes on the same side as the engines? That's just cursed
why not use a rocket to land? what am i missing?
"and its gravity is a lot higher" well at least in KSP1 its actually less than kerbin at 0.8G, although I dont know if this is changed for ksp2, although it most likely isnt bc it would mean different orbital speeds for the moons which would be different
Bump
ah good, they added secrets but only 3% of steam users can run the game to find them
Wait I saw a shadow cheat menu
Why dont you use rockets to slow you down, like every real life spaceship.
Why do you have to sound like that chemist
why not just make a plane/ssto and land it like a plane
Make a ssto
bro make a plane
So jool is not a gas planet?
Please don’t launch rockets at night. I can’t see anything
so, why didn't you just use thrusters?
Why didn't you just make a space plane to land there? I'm sure you could strap a rover on it.
Reid have my kidney ❤
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