Why does everyone always say something about recapturing chemistry? WTF is wrong with you people? Nobody is or has ever tried it. It was rebooted to keep the characters we know instead of people like you complaining about another Star Trek show that ISN'T Kirk and Spock. I wish people like you would open your eyes to other possibilities out there. And to be honest, the Kelvin timeline cast has some pretty good chemistry
In 4, Scotty and McCoy work together with fun results at the computer. Our family will sometimes come out with: "Why not try the mouse?" "Of course. Computer? Computer?"
When I saw this movie at 10 years old in our small town theater I remember the entire packed crowd standing up and cheering when he finally outsmarted Khan. It is a masterpiece.
I think like many people, I was just excited to see one of my favorite shows coming back in a big way. It was great to see all these characters again in the Enterprise! I was underwhelmed with the story, but was so glad they turned it around. 🖖🏼
If you have not seen it, Go watch "Where no Fan has gone before" From Futurama, the original episodes. It has all the original cast playing themselves except James Doohan and Deforest Kelly. It honors and pokes fun at Star Trek at the same time.
I think the original Motion Picture is getting a lot more respect now than it did during the release or this review. However, as a kid seeing it when it first came out, i remember how awestruck I was just to see the Enterprise and its crew on the big screen. I didn't even think it was unecessarily slow. My disappointments that I do remember as a kid was the terrible uniforms and no Federation vs Klingon battle.
I remember enjoying the spectacle of the enterprise and seeing all the original cast. About halfway, the film somewhat lost me but I was wowed by the production value and cast nonetheless.
I rewatched Star Trek The Motion Picture. I get it now - very much. I will be watching it again this summer a few times. I see why "Nerdrotic" said it is the most "Star Trek" of all the films (it's the story, and as we see with Discovery, story - or the lack of it - is everything).
Star Trek six the undiscovered country is my favorite of all of the original cast Star Trek movies with the wrath of Khan being number two on my list..
The Undiscovered Country was the best swan song to the original cast. It was great to see the parting of the ways between the Enterprise and the Excelsior
into darkness, they should have had Cumberbatch play Gary Mitchell. This would have been a greater story. starfleet editing volunteer Gary Mitchell with DNA of frozen Kahn, trying to replicate the super soldiers. imagine the story of Kirk having to hunt down a friend while Gary with his god complex tries to free Kahn and start a war to prove their worth.
Many people thought the first Star Trek movie was boring and slow and such. I've always loved it. It didn't have the action of Wrath of Kahn or the humor of Voyage Home, but visually the movie is a masterpiece and is very well put together. I've always enjoyed it even though many fans didn't.
Back in the early 90s, I was like 6 years old, when my dad brought home our first VCR. He also brought a box full of bootleg movies, one of which was Star Trek 3, the search for Spock. I must have memorized every line in that movie. The sound David makes when he gets stabbed still haunts me.
I absolutely *loved* the first movie, it remains my second favorite of the series (behind Wrath of Khan). I must have watched it dozens of times as a kid, never got bored.
The best and most heartfelt scene of the original movie was Kirk seeing his beloved Enterprise again! That score by Goldsmith is truly heavenly! (Mozart would have been quite pleased!) I'd pay good money to see that scene on a 20 foot screen!!!! I adored Star Trek III. There was something old Hollywood about it. It proudly sits in my library and I have seen in dozens of times and never tire of it. Always a sign of a great movie...re-watchable! Long live the original cast and Enterprise!!!
I quite like slow-moving sci-fi with a mystery. It doesn't all have to be lasers and action. 2001 is an excellent example of this, and I always thought MP was going for that 2001 aesthetic. There are plenty of episodes, even in TOS, that are more cerebral (no, _not_ that one), and are surprisingly good. TNG had quite a few of these too. I think MP is an excellent film, and worthy of its part in Trek canon.
Yes, especially if you only had watched TOS before, like everyone during the cinematic release. It keeps more of the space exploration ethos of TOS. Yes, it's a bit slow and ponderous, and I agree that doesn't have to be a bad thing, but coming out after Star Wars didn't do it any favours. I loved MP when it came out (yes, I'm THAT old) but most of my friends found it excruciating.
No. Just no. MP is a disaster. No story. No character growth or exploration of any kind. Just watching the enterprise in slow motion for like an hour of screen time
@@patrickhamilton6677 How long has it been since you actually watched the film? In its course, Kirk works out a midlife crisis in competition with the younger Decker, while Spock goes from his uttermost "Vulcan" (failing to even acknowledge simple greetings) to actually shedding tears for "his brother" Vger. Both character arcs are well centered in a rich unfolding story culminating in a well prepared reveal with implications bearing on the nature of consciousness itself (human and otherwise). Apart from its slow, meditative pace and lingering visual focus on the Enterprise, I don't recognize the film in your description at all.
Awesome video! III holds a special place for me as well. It was the first one I saw in the theatre. V and I are the two that are the hardest for for me. “The Genesis Trilogy” was what I new of Star Trek. Thanks for all the Simpson cuts!😊
I live in Columbus Ohio and they didn't show it there until the week after the official opening because the theater owners in town hadn't seen the movie and they had to see the movie first
I thought Robin Curtis did a good job as Saavik. Especially the moment when she had to tell Kirk on the communicator that his son David was dead after the Klingons killed him.
Star Trek IV was the luckiest mistake my father ever made. When Star Trek V came out in 1989 (I was nine years old) I desperately wanted to see it, but of course I had to wait until it was released on rental VHS the year later because I wasn't old enought to see it on the big screen. Why did I want to see it? I liked the poster. As a nine-year old, that's all the reason you need. So, one weekend in summe of 1990, my dad went to the VHS rental store, but Trek V was rented out, so instead he brought me Trek IV. I was dissapointed at first. But after the first time, I watched it like half a dozen times that weekend alone. The first episode of TOS I ever watched on TV (I was even younger then, but I still remember it, even thouth I learned much later which episode it was) was "The Lights of Zetar". The sequence with people changing the color of their faces freaked me out and horrified me so bad that I started to cry and ran to my mother. But ever since I had seen the Enterprise gliding majestically from left to right above a planet, I was hooked and always returned to Trek whenever I got the chance to watch it. But still I think in retrospect it was this movie that really got me into the franchise, because it was the first outing I watched at an age at which I was really able to comprehend what I saw. And what I saw was a great, funny, exciting movie featuring characters I knew and loved (although at the time I thought there was way too little Enterprise in it). And since the VHS version inculded a recap of Trek III before the actual movie, they spoiled that one for me in the process. :-) I wonder how things might have turned out, if Trek V hadn't been rented out that weekend. But, as a child, I might even have liked Trek V. ;-)
VHS movies back then where 80-100 dollars , that’s 80’s dollars . It wasn’t until the 90’s that vhs tapes became affordable . That’s why you had to rent if you had a vcr.
Ooo, those Star Wars clips were from the theatrical version. Nice. None of that special edition crap HERE. Although at this point it kinda feels like the theatrical editions are the special ones.
I'm tired of all the Star Trek V hate. First off, the intro scene with Kirk climbing the mountain is some of the best cinematography in the series and the score is fantastic. Second, this is the only movie that captures the Kirk/Spock/Bones dynamic from the series. Every other film always has Kirk paired off while the odd man out is in the B plot. The Yosemite camp scenes are some of the best character scenes in the series. The plot feels very much like something you'd see in the show Sybok. People complain that Spock seemingly has a brother come out of nowhere, it's no worse than his magically having a black sister with a man name. And unlike Michael Burnam, Sybok is an interesting and unique villan that breaks the "Khan mold" we see recycled again and again in Trek. Plus, his acting is great. Speaking of acting. Kirk's "I need my pain" scene. Need I say more? While most of the humor is pretty bad, it's no worse than the post Endgam MCU crap you see nowadays. Overall, while it's obviously not the best in the series, it's far from the worst and doesn't deserve nearly the hate it gets. I'd argue that it even holds up better than Yhe Voyage Home which feels VERY much like a product of the 80s.
I agree 100%. I think the opening a scenes were great. The movie was let down by the special effects and the end scene when they “found god”. It would be interesting to see this film with new effects and a revamped ending, much like we got for TMP, which in my opinion is still the only TREK film that was cinematic band not just a 2 hour tv movie shown in theaters
Glad you mentioned the length of Star Trek III, as that is my only issue with the film as an adult. At the time, I didn't notice. However, today it makes the film seem far too fast paced, and even though the crew has to steal the Enterprise, defeat the Klingons, and destroy the Enterprise it feels like everything happened in a matter of minutes and quite effortlessly. It needed either more for the crew to overcome, or some scenes of them dealing with the ramifications of their decisions. Also, the new sets looked incredibly cheap. The Klingon bridge was fine, though it was replaced in the next film, the Starfleet security office and the Excelsior bridge was as barebones as possible. The worst was Genesis, which was filmed on a soundstage and today feels like a television set. It makes me wonder how awesome it would have been to see the planet filmed on location, though that would probably have been very expensive.
Decker just _couldn't_ stop competing with Kirk, despite his warnings not to. "Kirk was captain of the Enterprise? I'll become captain of a _better_ Enterprise." said Decker. "Catherine Hicks was Kirk's love interest? I'll have her be my WIFE!" exclaimed Decker. "Kirk abused _zero_ underage girls? Hell, I already got _that_ beat!" Decker boasted, confidently. This was followed by an awkward pause as Decker's face fell. Then came the unmistakable sound of police sirens.
Omg, I'd forgotten how terrible the set & costume design of the 1st Trek movie was. Beige, grey & white uniforms? Glad they abandoned that in the future films. I actually saw Star Trek The Original Motion Picture in theatres twice when it released. (My BF at the time was really into ST) I didn't think it was a terrible film at the time, it just felt too much like an episode from ST:OS that was padded. There had been a story about a computer programmed to compile knowledge already & IIRC, Spock did a mind meld with it & everything. Anyway, it wasn't awful, it was just kind of blah. Like the colors of their uniforms lol...very beige & grey. Original Trek isn't really about special fx & pewpew lazers, the drama/adventure came from the characters & how they interacted when faced with unique lifeforms/dangerous situations while trying not to break The Prime Directive & live up to the aspirational moral code of Star Fleet.
TMP is not only my runaway favorite of all the Star Trek films, but it is one of my very favorite sci fi movies of all time. Even among Star Wars films (of which I was a massive fan as a kid), I would only rate the Empire Strikes Back higher in terms of how it holds up to my grownup sensibilities. It does have flaws, but its slow, meditative pace isn't one of them.
MY STAR TREK FAVORITES..... STK THE MOTION PICTURE THE DIRECTOR's CUT. NEXT...THE WATH OF KAN.... SEARCH FOR SPOCK ..... THE UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY ....... THAT'S IT MY FELLOW AND SISTER TREKKERS!.....
Great video! Really enjoying it. As a minor side point, it is through line, not thorough line. This was said in reference to Kirk’s growth as a character being the plot point viewers can follow through multiple movies.
multiply the box office of each STAR TREK movie by 8 because that's how much ticket prices have gone up since then to get how much money they'd make in 2023
If memory serves they were putting effect shots into film cannisters just before shipping. My favourite part of TMP was Spock's voice; almost like his Vulcan and human side were battling. The deeper sound, as if suppressing his emotions. Listen to his voice before and after his encounter with V'Ger and just before his death scene.
12 million in 1982 was pretty standard blockbuster fare. Star Wars, Raiders, and E.T. were made for similar budgets of 10-11 each. The Motion Picture's budget of 44 million, adjusted for inflation would be... still cheaper than most of TODAY'S big block blockbusters. Which shows how of control film costs have gotten. You could make a graph of film budgets from the early 80s to now and it'd be a steady, steeply rising line that vastly outpaces any inflation.
29:16, I wish they had given yeoman Janice Rand her blond hair at least in that scene. It was completely lost on me as a kid that was supposed to be Rand.
Is it just me or does the narrator sound a bit like Nolan Gould? Yes I watched the credits. When I was 14, I saw Wrath in theater with my dad who was a well known, in his field, mechanical and electrical engineer for the govt and had never been interested in Sci-Fi and hardly watched TV except for news, college football, All In The Family, Lawrence Welk and the stocks channel. God knows I tried to get him to watch what Sci-Fi was on back then. So to see his reaction to the star ship battles, his first sci-fi movie on a huge screen with immersive surround audio, he literally pushed back in his seat and was in awe of the power of the ships, I could see the honest expression on his face with every photon and laser impact and he said what a waste of all that engineering and technology, all the effort that had to be undertaken, I hope if we ever become that advanced that wars would be non-existent. I knew the gears were spinning in his head trying to realize (reverse engineer) how ships like that could be a design possibility. I had never seen my dad react like that to anything. It was a very memorable moment in my childhood, aside from the one when he chased me around the backyard looking like the Skipper and Gilligan in that Jack and the Beanstalk dream scene episode. lol Good times....
Yeah Star Trek the motion picture was basically a glorified episode in the original Star Trek series. You could definitely tell that 2001 A Space Odyssey was an inspiration for Star Trek the motion picture.
im a huge trekkie and sci fi fan. I love all the trek movies except nemesis, it's ok. But my favorites are Undiscovered country and First Contact for sure.
I'm guessing JoBlo is not much of a Star Trek fan. Aside from mispronouncing several Star Trek cast/crew names, he also said that The Motion Picture "definitely is not a favorite among Star Trek fans..." That's just ignorant. While it's not my favorite of the Trek films (2-4 are), i know many big fans for whom it is their favorite, because it is most like the TV show.
I really like the search of Spock when it comes to theaters! It was my first star trek in the theater and I love it, my father was a real fan and I didn’t get it until I watch that one. Also I don’t live in the States but here in my country people loved more the second and the fourth.
"They're dying Jim" "Let them die...aye...aye...i...." "Janeway? Is that you????" That said, Robin Curtis played THE BEST Vulc-ulan ever and since... she created the female Vulcan template, then somewhat the Sex in the City gal, and then the female Vulcan Marquee from Quarks... and then everyone else. Thank you for this fabulous diversion... really helping the opioid withdrawal... Same time tomorrow? ps What you mean NOT in front of the Klingons???? That's THE BEST place! Good grief!
My First Trek movie was the first, TMP. I was 10 years old and I saw it with my Dad, who was also a Trekkie. The only Trek movie I didn't see in the theater was The Wrath of Khan. I watched Firefox instead, dumb move on my part 😅
Star Trek TMP was also the 1st movie to be released in... "Laser Disc". That medium itself failed, but paved the way for, CD/DVD markets some years later. Lots of folks just didnt see the need to purchase the equipment needed to play the format, on their regular pixilated, standard color TV's. The damn laser discs were the size of 10" LP records, and could be scratched just by breathing on them too long. Yes they had many new features, but the public never saw the need to buy them, just to watch them on grainy cathode ray sets. Instead the public got into the burgeoning Cable tv markets, Beta-Max, and VCR craze. After almost 15 years of that, CD/DVD emerged. Part of the reason folks got into that was the advancement in tv technology. Now everything is Digital HD. In a few years well probably get Holographic tv's.
I dunno. Always liked TMP and even more so today. It's more adult, more realistic, with a deeper theme. And pays loving homage to 2001 A Space Odyssey. I like all the TOS movies but to me, the first is my favorite.
Kirk did not abandon his son. It was by mutual agreement that he, carol, and David didn’t form a family. We don’t know what his involvement was with David’s upbringing. Did he send money? Did he attend early birthday parties as mom’s friend?
They didn’t replace all of the special effects in the 2001 directors edition of The Motion Picture with CGI. There were only a couple of shots replaced. Most of the CGI was actually shots which were added because the shots were never finished. And as others have said you’re mispronouncing Harve Bennett and Nick Meyer. Makes you sound like you don’t know what you’re talking about.
The Motion Picture was released to movie theaters when I was 17. As the credits were rolling, I was very sad. Not only did a friend of mine fall asleep watching it, not only did they just redo an episode of the series called, "The Changeling," but also it was so bad that I thought, "they will never make another." It seemed that, instead of Star Trek, they tried to make another, "2001: A Space Odyssey." As Leonard Nimoy said in, "Leonard Nimoy's Star Trek Memories," which can be found on YT, the cast did not dfeel they were playing their characters. Since this movie was released, the only way I have been able to enjoy it is by putting on the director's cut and listening to the commentary as the movie runs. Of course, I am glad I was wrong and that they made more Trek movies (seems this movie made money from overseas sales and enough to warrant a sequel), but this one is not ne I will wilingly watch again.. BTW, if I remeber right, the uniforms, which look like pajamas, were credited in the film as being designed by Isaac Asimov.
I watched the Motion picture when it came out at the cinema and also-FELL-asleep. LOL. The slumber came when the Enterprise entered V-Ger.And I haven't watched the film since. LOL.
I'm sorry to anyone upset by this statement, but the JJ films will always be apocryphal. I actually kinda liked the last one, but none of them felt like Star Trek to me. And it's not like I'm a 20th century snob, either. I loved the first season of Discovery, liked parts of the second, and greatly enjoyed all seasons of all the new shows. But JJ? I would be happy to never hear those films mentioned again.
Super scummy having 2 channels there pal. Can't do both on one? P.S: My whole life I've wanted someone to talk about Star Trek!. There was nobody until you. FINALLY- someone online talking about that movie. Original content!
I enjoyed “Star Trek: The Motion Picture” very much! It ‘s a story that requires attention and thought. No doubt the first version was flawed by the rush to get it out by Christmas 1979. But the recent remastering has made for a great improvement. Under Robert Wise’s smooth, polished direction, it had a genuinely epic feel. (Something only Leonard Nimoy came close to matching; III and IV were excellent.) As for the supporting cast, they should have been honoured to be in a big-screen film directed by someone of the stature of Wise. They were not terribly distinguished outside of “Star Trek.” Without doubt, Jerry Fielding’s score stood far above James Horner’s. The best part of “Trek II” was Ricardo Montalban. Myself, I could have done without the soap opera subplot featuring Kirk’s long-lost love and the son he never knew. (Yawn!) And those new uniforms were better suited to hotel doormen than Starfleet!
Internationally at this time we had Doctor Who so Star Trek wasn't a big. I liked the original movies. Wrath of Khan and Voyage Home are my favourite s
I loved all the tos trek films period, yes that includes trek 5...TNG films were like having a step mom you really n didn't care much for which is how I feel...
Buck Rodgers was literately the reboot of Buck Rodgers the TV serial that Lucas basically based SW on.... Come on JoBlo, dont give the morons an easy win :). Love the vid though.
Yeah,Lucas tried to get the rights to-Flash-Gordan-but,didn't and the rest is-HISTORY. LOL.The studio,cast and crew thought Star Wars was going to be a huge-FLOP !!! LOL. But,just didn't know the public's-HUNGER-for sci-fi/sci-fantasy. May the-FORCE-be with you.
After having read that Steven Collins admitted to being a peodophile I can’t view his character the same again. I still think the motion picture was the strongest TOS film though.
The original Star Trek films are some of my favorite comfort movies… The chemistry between original cast is truly special
Star Trek III was the first film my mother took me to see at the cinema, and thus my love for Star Trek had begun!
My older sister took me to see Search for Spock in the summer of 84. The Karate Kid was one of the trailers too.
You can't recapture the chemistry of the original cast. They're all icons.
The actors had such a big effect on them.
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Amen to that!
Why does everyone always say something about recapturing chemistry? WTF is wrong with you people? Nobody is or has ever tried it. It was rebooted to keep the characters we know instead of people like you complaining about another Star Trek show that ISN'T Kirk and Spock. I wish people like you would open your eyes to other possibilities out there. And to be honest, the Kelvin timeline cast has some pretty good chemistry
With the death of Nichelle Nichols last year then the only living Star Trek icons are William Shatner, George Takei and Walter Koenig.
Excellent documentary, even after watching trek for 30 years I still learnt things. I can watch this with my friend who has seen trek
In 4, Scotty and McCoy work together with fun results at the computer. Our family will sometimes come out with: "Why not try the mouse?" "Of course. Computer? Computer?"
“Hello, computer!”
When I saw this movie at 10 years old in our small town theater I remember the entire packed crowd standing up and cheering when he finally outsmarted Khan. It is a masterpiece.
Everytime I watch these Dokus my Day is over cause I have to watch the Flix. Lucky me!
Just watched the first one last night, what perfect timing! It still holds up, was fantastic!
Star Trek III is my favorite. I find it endlessly rewatchable.
me and my brother has been fan's of the show from 1963 to 2023 so we can be called super fan's so make it so
I think like many people, I was just excited to see one of my favorite shows coming back in a big way. It was great to see all these characters again in the Enterprise! I was underwhelmed with the story, but was so glad they turned it around. 🖖🏼
If you have not seen it, Go watch "Where no Fan has gone before" From Futurama, the original episodes. It has all the original cast playing themselves except James Doohan and Deforest Kelly. It honors and pokes fun at Star Trek at the same time.
I think the original Motion Picture is getting a lot more respect now than it did during the release or this review. However, as a kid seeing it when it first came out, i remember how awestruck I was just to see the Enterprise and its crew on the big screen. I didn't even think it was unecessarily slow. My disappointments that I do remember as a kid was the terrible uniforms and no Federation vs Klingon battle.
It is very slow. The cast staring at the screen for half the movie reflects this.
I remember enjoying the spectacle of the enterprise and seeing all the original cast. About halfway, the film somewhat lost me but I was wowed by the production value and cast nonetheless.
Whoa!!! I thought I was going crazy thinking that was Scotty’s nephew when I was a kid
Harold Livingston, the writer for this movie was a WW2 pilot and one of the first American volunteers to form the IAF in 1948.
I rewatched Star Trek The Motion Picture. I get it now - very much. I will be watching it again this summer a few times. I see why "Nerdrotic" said it is the most "Star Trek" of all the films (it's the story, and as we see with Discovery, story - or the lack of it - is everything).
DeForest Kelly with his crazy facial hair looked like he walked off the animated set of Jonny Quest, Dr. Benton Quest. Lol
Star Trek six the undiscovered country is my favorite of all of the original cast Star Trek movies with the wrath of Khan being number two on my list..
The Undiscovered Country was the best swan song to the original cast. It was great to see the parting of the ways between the Enterprise and the Excelsior
Love love love the original crew Trek movies
26:55 I always thought Sulu's line there shoulda been "That's _Commander_ Tiny to you, grunt!"
into darkness, they should have had Cumberbatch play Gary Mitchell. This would have been a greater story. starfleet editing volunteer Gary Mitchell with DNA of frozen Kahn, trying to replicate the super soldiers. imagine the story of Kirk having to hunt down a friend while Gary with his god complex tries to free Kahn and start a war to prove their worth.
Really enjoyed that. Thank you. Live long and prosper ❤......
49:39 - What a great game. And the Judgement Rites followup.
" WHAT WE GOT BACK ,
DIDN'T LIVE LONG , FORTUNATELY "
AND IT EXPLODED
Many people thought the first Star Trek movie was boring and slow and such. I've always loved it. It didn't have the action of Wrath of Kahn or the humor of Voyage Home, but visually the movie is a masterpiece and is very well put together. I've always enjoyed it even though many fans didn't.
That's all that counts,your enjoyment of the film,friend. Live Long and Prosper
Back in the early 90s, I was like 6 years old, when my dad brought home our first VCR. He also brought a box full of bootleg movies, one of which was Star Trek 3, the search for Spock. I must have memorized every line in that movie. The sound David makes when he gets stabbed still haunts me.
Oh I loved this! Thank you! I hope you do one for Star Trek TNG movies
BRAVO! Phenomenal summary!
That episode Columbo Ricardo is in.
I absolutely *loved* the first movie, it remains my second favorite of the series (behind Wrath of Khan). I must have watched it dozens of times as a kid, never got bored.
The best and most heartfelt scene of the original movie was Kirk seeing his beloved Enterprise again! That score by Goldsmith is truly heavenly! (Mozart would have been quite pleased!)
I'd pay good money to see that scene on a 20 foot screen!!!!
I adored Star Trek III. There was something old Hollywood about it. It proudly sits in my library and I have seen in dozens of times and never tire of it.
Always a sign of a great movie...re-watchable!
Long live the original cast and Enterprise!!!
Search for Spock is my favorite. The storyline is most like an episode. It’s about the “big three”
I quite like slow-moving sci-fi with a mystery. It doesn't all have to be lasers and action. 2001 is an excellent example of this, and I always thought MP was going for that 2001 aesthetic. There are plenty of episodes, even in TOS, that are more cerebral (no, _not_ that one), and are surprisingly good. TNG had quite a few of these too.
I think MP is an excellent film, and worthy of its part in Trek canon.
Yes, especially if you only had watched TOS before, like everyone during the cinematic release. It keeps more of the space exploration ethos of TOS. Yes, it's a bit slow and ponderous, and I agree that doesn't have to be a bad thing, but coming out after Star Wars didn't do it any favours. I loved MP when it came out (yes, I'm THAT old) but most of my friends found it excruciating.
No. Just no. MP is a disaster. No story. No character growth or exploration of any kind. Just watching the enterprise in slow motion for like an hour of screen time
@@patrickhamilton6677 How long has it been since you actually watched the film? In its course, Kirk works out a midlife crisis in competition with the younger Decker, while Spock goes from his uttermost "Vulcan" (failing to even acknowledge simple greetings) to actually shedding tears for "his brother" Vger. Both character arcs are well centered in a rich unfolding story culminating in a well prepared reveal with implications bearing on the nature of consciousness itself (human and otherwise). Apart from its slow, meditative pace and lingering visual focus on the Enterprise, I don't recognize the film in your description at all.
Awesome video! III holds a special place for me as well. It was the first one I saw in the theatre.
V and I are the two that are the hardest for for me. “The Genesis Trilogy” was what I new of Star Trek. Thanks for all the Simpson cuts!😊
I live in Columbus Ohio and they didn't show it there until the week after the official opening because the theater owners in town hadn't seen the movie and they had to see the movie first
ST IV really good, Nimoy's direction and most of all, the lovely Catherine Hicks, a fine actress,subtle performance. simply a gorgeous lady :)
I thought Robin Curtis did a good job as Saavik. Especially the moment when she had to tell Kirk on the communicator that his son David was dead after the Klingons killed him.
All your criticisms are valid. When I saw it in the theater as a ten-year-old, I hated how boring it was.
Nick Meyer's last name is pronounced My-er (long "I" in the first syllable).
Star Trek IV was the luckiest mistake my father ever made. When Star Trek V came out in 1989 (I was nine years old) I desperately wanted to see it, but of course I had to wait until it was released on rental VHS the year later because I wasn't old enought to see it on the big screen.
Why did I want to see it? I liked the poster. As a nine-year old, that's all the reason you need. So, one weekend in summe of 1990, my dad went to the VHS rental store, but Trek V was rented out, so instead he brought me Trek IV. I was dissapointed at first. But after the first time, I watched it like half a dozen times that weekend alone.
The first episode of TOS I ever watched on TV (I was even younger then, but I still remember it, even thouth I learned much later which episode it was) was "The Lights of Zetar". The sequence with people changing the color of their faces freaked me out and horrified me so bad that I started to cry and ran to my mother. But ever since I had seen the Enterprise gliding majestically from left to right above a planet, I was hooked and always returned to Trek whenever I got the chance to watch it.
But still I think in retrospect it was this movie that really got me into the franchise, because it was the first outing I watched at an age at which I was really able to comprehend what I saw. And what I saw was a great, funny, exciting movie featuring characters I knew and loved (although at the time I thought there was way too little Enterprise in it). And since the VHS version inculded a recap of Trek III before the actual movie, they spoiled that one for me in the process. :-)
I wonder how things might have turned out, if Trek V hadn't been rented out that weekend. But, as a child, I might even have liked Trek V. ;-)
VHS movies back then where 80-100 dollars , that’s 80’s dollars . It wasn’t until the 90’s that vhs tapes became affordable . That’s why you had to rent if you had a vcr.
Ooo, those Star Wars clips were from the theatrical version. Nice.
None of that special edition crap HERE.
Although at this point it kinda feels like the theatrical editions are the special ones.
Christian Slater appeared as his mother was the casting director and he was a fan, he asked her for a walk on role. :)
I'm tired of all the Star Trek V hate.
First off, the intro scene with Kirk climbing the mountain is some of the best cinematography in the series and the score is fantastic.
Second, this is the only movie that captures the Kirk/Spock/Bones dynamic from the series. Every other film always has Kirk paired off while the odd man out is in the B plot. The Yosemite camp scenes are some of the best character scenes in the series.
The plot feels very much like something you'd see in the show
Sybok. People complain that Spock seemingly has a brother come out of nowhere, it's no worse than his magically having a black sister with a man name. And unlike Michael Burnam, Sybok is an interesting and unique villan that breaks the "Khan mold" we see recycled again and again in Trek. Plus, his acting is great.
Speaking of acting. Kirk's "I need my pain" scene. Need I say more?
While most of the humor is pretty bad, it's no worse than the post Endgam MCU crap you see nowadays.
Overall, while it's obviously not the best in the series, it's far from the worst and doesn't deserve nearly the hate it gets. I'd argue that it even holds up better than Yhe Voyage Home which feels VERY much like a product of the 80s.
I agree 100%. I think the opening a scenes were great. The movie was let down by the special effects and the end scene when they “found god”. It would be interesting to see this film with new effects and a revamped ending, much like we got for TMP, which in my opinion is still the only TREK film that was cinematic band not just a 2 hour tv movie shown in theaters
Original star trek movie one of the greatest movies ever. Wrath of khan one of the most badass movies of all time ⏲️ 🙌 👌 ❤
I always liked the MP. I didn't mind the slower plot. I thought the story was cool, it looked and sounded good.
Glad you mentioned the length of Star Trek III, as that is my only issue with the film as an adult. At the time, I didn't notice. However, today it makes the film seem far too fast paced, and even though the crew has to steal the Enterprise, defeat the Klingons, and destroy the Enterprise it feels like everything happened in a matter of minutes and quite effortlessly. It needed either more for the crew to overcome, or some scenes of them dealing with the ramifications of their decisions. Also, the new sets looked incredibly cheap. The Klingon bridge was fine, though it was replaced in the next film, the Starfleet security office and the Excelsior bridge was as barebones as possible. The worst was Genesis, which was filmed on a soundstage and today feels like a television set. It makes me wonder how awesome it would have been to see the planet filmed on location, though that would probably have been very expensive.
I think that the Original Star Trek: TOS movies are the best ! I like the Original Star Trek: TOS Movies featuring the Original Cast !
Decker just _couldn't_ stop competing with Kirk, despite his warnings not to.
"Kirk was captain of the Enterprise? I'll become captain of a _better_ Enterprise." said Decker.
"Catherine Hicks was Kirk's love interest? I'll have her be my WIFE!" exclaimed Decker.
"Kirk abused _zero_ underage girls? Hell, I already got _that_ beat!" Decker boasted, confidently.
This was followed by an awkward pause as Decker's face fell. Then came the unmistakable sound of police sirens.
Great coverage of all the original cast movie!
Although I have lots of respect for the Star Trek movie, it was The Wrath of Khan that really impressed and entertained.
Nicholas Meyer must be the most underutilised director in Hollywood.
47:20 at least they dusted off the rock monster (pun intended) for Galaxy Quest, arguably one of the best Star Trek moves ever made.
Movies don’t get better than the original Star Trek movie run! My happy place!
My favourite line is “I’m laughing at the superior intellect”
Omg, I'd forgotten how terrible the set & costume design of the 1st Trek movie was. Beige, grey & white uniforms? Glad they abandoned that in the future films. I actually saw Star Trek The Original Motion Picture in theatres twice when it released. (My BF at the time was really into ST) I didn't think it was a terrible film at the time, it just felt too much like an episode from ST:OS that was padded. There had been a story about a computer programmed to compile knowledge already & IIRC, Spock did a mind meld with it & everything. Anyway, it wasn't awful, it was just kind of blah. Like the colors of their uniforms lol...very beige & grey. Original Trek isn't really about special fx & pewpew lazers, the drama/adventure came from the characters & how they interacted when faced with unique lifeforms/dangerous situations while trying not to break The Prime Directive & live up to the aspirational moral code of Star Fleet.
I like the first movie style way more.
Stop calling him Harvey Bennett! It's Harve Bennett...
No shit. Talk about not doing your homework.
Also mispronounced Nicholas Meyer's name... that was annoying but otherwise a pretty good summary
Majel Barret's second cameo appearance in STIV, at 39:18!
TMP is not only my runaway favorite of all the Star Trek films, but it is one of my very favorite sci fi movies of all time. Even among Star Wars films (of which I was a massive fan as a kid), I would only rate the Empire Strikes Back higher in terms of how it holds up to my grownup sensibilities. It does have flaws, but its slow, meditative pace isn't one of them.
I like the adventure in those movies back in the day
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Great video! Really enjoying it. As a minor side point, it is through line, not thorough line. This was said in reference to Kirk’s growth as a character being the plot point viewers can follow through multiple movies.
multiply the box office of each
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how much ticket prices
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they'd make in 2023
If memory serves they were putting effect shots into film cannisters just before shipping. My favourite part of TMP was Spock's voice; almost like his Vulcan and human side were battling. The deeper sound, as if suppressing his emotions. Listen to his voice before and after his encounter with V'Ger and just before his death scene.
12 million in 1982 was pretty standard blockbuster fare.
Star Wars, Raiders, and E.T. were made for similar budgets of 10-11 each.
The Motion Picture's budget of 44 million, adjusted for inflation would be... still cheaper than most of TODAY'S big block blockbusters.
Which shows how of control film costs have gotten. You could make a graph of film budgets from the early 80s to now and it'd be a steady, steeply rising line that vastly outpaces any inflation.
The motion pucture was the first film i went to see at the cinema
29:16, I wish they had given yeoman Janice Rand her blond hair at least in that scene. It was completely lost on me as a kid that was supposed to be Rand.
then there was blake 7 which we all try to forget ...
Great vid.
These films are amazing.
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Fabulous Presentation My Friend 💯
Live long and prosper
Is it just me or does the narrator sound a bit like Nolan Gould? Yes I watched the credits. When I was 14, I saw Wrath in theater with my dad who was a well known, in his field, mechanical and electrical engineer for the govt and had never been interested in Sci-Fi and hardly watched TV except for news, college football, All In The Family, Lawrence Welk and the stocks channel. God knows I tried to get him to watch what Sci-Fi was on back then. So to see his reaction to the star ship battles, his first sci-fi movie on a huge screen with immersive surround audio, he literally pushed back in his seat and was in awe of the power of the ships, I could see the honest expression on his face with every photon and laser impact and he said what a waste of all that engineering and technology, all the effort that had to be undertaken, I hope if we ever become that advanced that wars would be non-existent. I knew the gears were spinning in his head trying to realize (reverse engineer) how ships like that could be a design possibility. I had never seen my dad react like that to anything. It was a very memorable moment in my childhood, aside from the one when he chased me around the backyard looking like the Skipper and Gilligan in that Jack and the Beanstalk dream scene episode. lol Good times....
Yeah Star Trek the motion picture was basically a glorified episode in the original Star Trek series. You could definitely tell that 2001 A Space Odyssey was an inspiration for Star Trek the motion picture.
"Is there anything good about Star Trek 5?" Yeah, GREAT movie! 👍
im a huge trekkie and sci fi fan. I love all the trek movies except nemesis, it's ok. But my favorites are Undiscovered country and First Contact for sure.
I'm guessing JoBlo is not much of a Star Trek fan. Aside from mispronouncing several Star Trek cast/crew names, he also said that The Motion Picture "definitely is not a favorite among Star Trek fans..." That's just ignorant. While it's not my favorite of the Trek films (2-4 are), i know many big fans for whom it is their favorite, because it is most like the TV show.
Star trek: the motion picture and star trek 2 are the best. Read the motion picture it is a great book.
Live long & prosper 🖖
I really like the search of Spock when it comes to theaters! It was my first star trek in the theater and I love it, my father was a real fan and I didn’t get it until I watch that one. Also I don’t live in the States but here in my country people loved more the second and the fourth.
"They're dying Jim" "Let them die...aye...aye...i...." "Janeway? Is that you????" That said, Robin Curtis played THE BEST Vulc-ulan ever and since... she created the female Vulcan template, then somewhat the Sex in the City gal, and then the female Vulcan Marquee from Quarks... and then everyone else. Thank you for this fabulous diversion... really helping the opioid withdrawal... Same time tomorrow? ps What you mean NOT in front of the Klingons???? That's THE BEST place! Good grief!
My First Trek movie was the first, TMP. I was 10 years old and I saw it with my Dad, who was also a Trekkie. The only Trek movie I didn't see in the theater was The Wrath of Khan. I watched Firefox instead, dumb move on my part 😅
Star Trek TMP was also the 1st movie to be released in... "Laser Disc".
That medium itself failed, but paved the way for, CD/DVD markets some years later.
Lots of folks just didnt see the need to purchase the equipment needed to play the format, on their regular pixilated, standard color TV's. The damn laser discs were the size of 10" LP records, and could be scratched just by breathing on them too long.
Yes they had many new features, but the public never saw the need to buy them, just to watch them on grainy cathode ray sets.
Instead the public got into the burgeoning Cable tv markets, Beta-Max, and VCR craze. After almost 15 years of that, CD/DVD emerged. Part of the reason folks got into that was the advancement in tv technology. Now everything is Digital HD. In a few years well probably get Holographic tv's.
I dunno. Always liked TMP and even more so today. It's more adult, more realistic, with a deeper theme. And pays loving homage to 2001 A Space Odyssey. I like all the TOS movies but to me, the first is my favorite.
Kirk did not abandon his son. It was by mutual agreement that he, carol, and David didn’t form a family. We don’t know what his involvement was with David’s upbringing. Did he send money? Did he attend early birthday parties as mom’s friend?
I can't believe Star Trek 2 cost only about one fourth as much as Star Trek The Motion Picture.
They didn’t replace all of the special effects in the 2001 directors edition of The Motion Picture with CGI. There were only a couple of shots replaced. Most of the CGI was actually shots which were added because the shots were never finished. And as others have said you’re mispronouncing Harve Bennett and Nick Meyer. Makes you sound like you don’t know what you’re talking about.
The Motion Picture was released to movie theaters when I was 17. As the credits were rolling, I was very sad. Not only did a friend of mine fall asleep watching it, not only did they just redo an episode of the series called, "The Changeling," but also it was so bad that I thought, "they will never make another." It seemed that, instead of Star Trek, they tried to make another, "2001: A Space Odyssey." As Leonard Nimoy said in, "Leonard Nimoy's Star Trek Memories," which can be found on YT, the cast did not dfeel they were playing their characters. Since this movie was released, the only way I have been able to enjoy it is by putting on the director's cut and listening to the commentary as the movie runs. Of course, I am glad I was wrong and that they made more Trek movies (seems this movie made money from overseas sales and enough to warrant a sequel), but this one is not ne I will wilingly watch again.. BTW, if I remeber right, the uniforms, which look like pajamas, were credited in the film as being designed by Isaac Asimov.
I watched the Motion picture when it came out at the cinema and also-FELL-asleep. LOL. The slumber came when the Enterprise entered V-Ger.And I haven't watched the film since. LOL.
Oh,I forgot. Have you ever seen the tv show: Space-1999 ??? That shows pajama uniforms are very similar.
Trek 3 is my favorite of the series.
I'm sorry to anyone upset by this statement, but the JJ films will always be apocryphal. I actually kinda liked the last one, but none of them felt like Star Trek to me. And it's not like I'm a 20th century snob, either. I loved the first season of Discovery, liked parts of the second, and greatly enjoyed all seasons of all the new shows. But JJ? I would be happy to never hear those films mentioned again.
Super scummy having 2 channels there pal. Can't do both on one?
P.S: My whole life I've wanted someone to talk about Star Trek!. There was nobody until you. FINALLY- someone online talking about that movie. Original content!
Star Trek 3 was good I fully agree! Now the TJ Hooker clip to this day I can't watch with a straight face 😂😂😂
I enjoyed “Star Trek: The Motion Picture” very much! It ‘s a story that requires attention and thought. No doubt the first version was flawed by the rush to get it out by Christmas 1979. But the recent remastering has made for a great improvement. Under Robert Wise’s smooth, polished direction, it had a genuinely epic feel. (Something only Leonard Nimoy came close to matching; III and IV were excellent.) As for the supporting cast, they should have been honoured to be in a big-screen film directed by someone of the stature of Wise. They were not terribly distinguished outside of “Star Trek.” Without doubt, Jerry Fielding’s score stood far above James Horner’s.
The best part of “Trek II” was Ricardo Montalban. Myself, I could have done without the soap opera subplot featuring Kirk’s long-lost love and the son he never knew. (Yawn!) And those new uniforms were better suited to hotel doormen than Starfleet!
IV didn't have a epic feel. It was a dumb comedy filled with the then vogue and popular "save the whales"-nonsense
I enjoy trek 5, its fun
Internationally at this time we had Doctor Who so Star Trek wasn't a big. I liked the original movies. Wrath of Khan and Voyage Home are my favourite s
I loved all the tos trek films period, yes that includes trek 5...TNG films were like having a step mom you really n didn't care much for which is how I feel...
Buck Rodgers was literately the reboot of Buck Rodgers the TV serial that Lucas basically based SW on.... Come on JoBlo, dont give the morons an easy win :). Love the vid though.
Yeah,Lucas tried to get the rights to-Flash-Gordan-but,didn't and the rest is-HISTORY. LOL.The studio,cast and crew thought Star Wars was going to be a huge-FLOP !!! LOL. But,just didn't know the public's-HUNGER-for sci-fi/sci-fantasy. May the-FORCE-be with you.
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After having read that Steven Collins admitted to being a peodophile I can’t view his character the same again. I still think the motion picture was the strongest TOS film though.
What the heck? I've already watched this. As separate videos.
Why do so many people say that Battlestar Galactica was a knock off of Star Wars? It was nothing like Star Wars.