What I think of the Fiesta ST 3 months on...
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- 3 months with a car that splits opinions, what are our thoughts?
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So we have had our 2017 Fiesta ST for a little while, plucking up 1500 miles on the clock but what do we think about it after 3 months? Do we regret selling our M140i? Are we loving the MK7 Fiesta ST?
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Couldn’t agree more. I’ve gone from a BMW M135i to a fiesta ST and don’t regret it at all.
I’ve also owned some fast cars in my time and at 37 years young I am absolutely loving my little Fiesta ST! Had it nearly a year now and it never fails to make me smile. This review is spot on! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks man 👍🏼 really appreciate it. It really surprised me how much I like driving it, it has a bit of an old school hot hatch feel about it
Totally agree!
@@JustTheDriven exactly why I have chosen it. Remind me of my old Honda VTI back in the days.
@@JustTheDriven does your car pull to one side?
@@odv3tr539 Torque steer? Or tracking is out?
Had mine for 2 years, currently pushing 230bhp. I still love it.
I'm 60 years old I love my st had it over 3 years now and has been tuned to 300 plus hp wouldn't change it for anything else spot on review.
I test drove one 6 months ago when I got out my missus said I was grinning from ear to ear. Cos I'm 57 and just had my first grandchild I bought a focus active x . I've just been back to dealership and said I'm looking for an st3
Was that expensive to tune up ?
I'm glad your enjoying the ST mate, you'll love it even more when you've tuned it!
I'm hoping so mate!
@@JustTheDriven rear motor mount is a huge help; most folks start there. Side mount inserts (front end) and a torsion bar (rear end) are disproportionately good at settling the car through bumpy turns, and the rear stiffening gives you more oversteer. I also like aluminum steering and shifter bushings and a really short throw shifter. All this adds up to only a few hundred $US and makes it feel really sharp.
It also responds well to lightened wheels. The factory ones are apparently made of lead.
Glad to see your enjoying it mate. Think if I was in a situation where I had to save cash I would definitely think of getting one of these little machines in exchange for my M140i. Such good tuning potential for a small priced car.
had mine for 3 and a half years love it to bits currently running 330bhp can't really think of a car for the price that i'd want to move onto as im still loving it after all this time of owning it.
Same here mate, went from a Z4 23i to a ST3, what a difference, so pleased with the ST
Bought my st200 new in 2017 and have honestly loved every moment of owning it and I'm now at a point where I'm considering a move to possibly an m140i however ,like you say in the video the overall fun factor (price, cost of running , reliability ect ect)is something to be missed if I do move, my problem is I hope to buy a home soon and fear something more practical ie 5doors may be of use in future, and yes an m140i is 5door however running cost may be too much 😁 first world problems, but anyway great video and look forward to see what you do with it 👍👍
Good perspective here. The fact that it doesn't disguise its speed is a subtle fun magnifier.
I might be nuts, but the only thing I preferred about an M2 Comp was the drivetrain, and I would take the little Ford over every non-M I've driven. It reminds me of my old Mk1 GTI, but with huge capability and somehow nimbler.
I've noticed the English have a limited edition version called the "Fiester ST." Sounds incredibly awesome.
It's a Fiesta Restee.
I came from a 630bhp R35 GTR to a 230bhp Fiesta ST and it was huge fun, different cars but so much fun, and cheap to use compared to other cars
Anyone that buys an 18k car certainly cannot expect it not to have a relatively cheap cabin..especially compared to a higher end car.. if you paid 55k and it was cheap and rattley that would be something
Great vid mate. Collect mine tomorrow! Going from a Cayenne Turbo. Just noticed you set off from Birstall… I’m in Castleford. Will keep an eye out for your ST 👍🏻
Golf R, M140i, ST3...nice collection. Watch with interest as you know and share your stuff. Excellent vids, very watchable. Keep going mate. Leon Cupra would fit too - like a Big ST3😂
Just gone from a 2016 M135i (well still got it at the moment) to an ST, my son upgraded to a Golf R so I decided to grab the ST and slog the BMW as have borrowed it in the past and its just so much more fun than the BMW. Got it booked in for a Stage 2 upgrade, completely agree with everything you said in this video, brilliant little cars. I am 50, these fell like a more modern, faster version of the old school 80s and 90s hatches rather than a 400 bhp 4wd 1600 kilo missile with an automatic gearbox.
4 years, 56000Km, no rattles at all. It's my daily and I do some tracks days with it.
Mine is a end of year 2016 : cheap, fun, reliable. I want to keep it for ever even as a weekend or track car.
Outdated interior, rough ride but still one of the most fun cars I've ever driven. Had mine as daily for just over a year now and as you said, it never fails to put a smile on your face, even on the short drive to work. Have driven cars with 3x the power, 4WD, RWD but nothing I've driven is more fun up a mountain road or down a quiet country lane than the Fiesta ST. Great video mate.
I would disagree about the build quality though. The materials are cheap and cheerful, but its put together pretty well and can put up with a lot of tough treatment.
Until the eco crap engine fails
@@James-hh1lq why would it fail? Early ones had cylinder head issues. Since then they were replaced and 2015 onwards are fine anyway. Reliability of the 1.6 4cyl and even the 1.0 3cyl is good these days.
@@tarquin2trappybro so 2015 2016 2017 were the better engine ?
@@tarquin2trappybro 2015 st video cracked cylinder head lots of comments saying it happened on there st's even 2017 st. Rubbish engine, fast yes but thats it. Even the focus rs had problems.
@@James-hh1lq the 1.0t was improved in 2015 ik that. Maybe not the 1.6 so much. Of course I’m sure it can happen still. Modifying and tuning them definitely will make that potential issue more likely to happen. But many engines have issues, such as many of BMWs 4 cylinders from a few years back with snapping timing chains, annoyingly
Just swapped my M140i for a Fiesta ST3, totally different cars but the ST is so much more fun
I've got a bmw 1series F20 in Valencia orange matalic 64
But I've always had a soft spot for the fiesta st and I'm 40 years young lol
And so has my wife , she loves them as well
So I think in the months ahead I'll be changing over just like you mate !
Thanks for the video great advice very much appreciated ! Looking forward to getting some ldeas for me to do when I hopefully get one soon !
So Looking forward to the next video as im now subscribed 💯%👌👍💪
So the first performance hatchback i owned was a stage 1 fiesta ST, and it honestly is one of the best cars i owned. Better than my leon cupra 280, better than my megane RS, the only car so far to beat it for me is my mini JCW! These are honestly great cars and need to be given a chance
Thanks for your video!!
I have driven my Fiesta ST daily for close to 7 years now and all you wanna do when you hop in the driver's seat, is just fkn drive all day long.. preferably on some tight twisty tarmac... The speeds I have taken corners in that car is insane! Couple of close shaves too and gotta look out for those mid corner bumps... The handling is so good it's like it has claws holding it to the road..
I agree mate they’re so much fun!! Nothing beats the handling on these I find myself accelerating into corners rather than slowing down coz you just know it’s capable. Ace fun!!
This is a great video, I'm thinking about making the switch from a 5.0 mustang to an ST.
I had an st150 12 years ago and I loved it. These ones seem even better.
Did you buy The ST ..? If so how's it been.....
Great video mate 👍
Thank you sir
Great video I've had mine for over a year now running a stage 1 its such an underrated little car never forget its power to weight ratio 😁
Thankss Martin, appreciate it
Im thinking about getting one for my first car after I save up for a down payment. Any things that are off or I should know of before?
@@snxwfn2496 Insurance for first car is super steep. need to purchase steering wheel lock
Also key fob ir block.. as these are one of the favourite cars to go walkies.. people even move obd diagnostic connection port to make it slower to steel!..
Apart from that so much fun
The only thing that would be better would be if they where rear wheel drive!!
Cars I've kept with and over taken in mine include lol
VW Scirocco R two (2 geezers not happy)
Ford Focus Rs green 👀 (whilst it spat flames, I was so happy not saying my car is as fast as but it" tryed to loose me)
Rang rover sport v8 (1st lock down, empty roads)
Fiat abarth scorpio limited edition (surprisingly fast)
BMW M140i (driver was a dick)
Mine is at stock! Except itg induction kit and slammed 50 mil
I didnt like the the colour when I first saw the molten Orange but now my 2nd favourite colour after Ford focus Rs green.
Good luck mate
the fiesta is an absolute dream of a car, handles superb, great stock power to have fun, weight is amazing as it makes the car feel so quick and not to forget they turn into absolute demons when you get onto stage 3 bigger turbo etc. Amazing car and proud to say i own one!
gotta say that the mountune mp215 kit with mountune exhaust gives even more smile on your face :D gapping a lot of cars on curvy roads and even on lights
Hey I’ve done exactly the same went from a m140 to a hot hatch,but I took the ST out and thought ok then I took out the new vxr my god there’s no match the vxr 205bjp with twin Remus is awesome the turbo is great it’s there in all gears and the seats oh la la Will,peace out.
I have this one over to years now - in white, fully equipped with red recaros, rear camera, navi, heated seats and sony entertainment. I know exactly your point, because I had fast(er) cars, BUT none of them were so much fun to drive, because of its little weight. It goes, corners and grips like stink. Feels more like a cart, than a car. When it comes to agility, there are only a few cars out there, that can give you the same feeling. And because you have only nearly 200hp, you feel faster everytime, than you really are. And even though its enough for 95% of all the other cars out there, you are not risking your driving licence all the time (as you would shure do in a 911). Everything in this car works really fine. Steering, power, grip, seats, damper - all parts composed to a really fine setup, that is heavy to beat. For example, I drove a Polo GTI from 2019 and it was boring compared to the FiST. Ford gave driving enthusiasts a practical tiny everyday car, that can be used as a track tool - and after that, you do your shopping at the supermarket. Genius. Have fun with it!! I really love mine and will go on driving it for a very long time... 😁👍
I bought a 14 plate ST2 in 2016, it's my low mileage fun car, it only has 20,896 miles on it, great car out on the country roads.
See, this!! Just this. Car enthusiast and not a fanboy of anything. This is the real talk right there, here take my like and subscription
Thank you sir, much appreciated!
@@JustTheDriven Currently have an st150, had it 18 months and ive got to say it is utterly brilliant. Got my eyes on an st3 mk7 currently at a relatively good price however...its a cat s, so im giving this one a good look at.
I’ve had my ST for 6 years now and changing soon to a mk3 Focus RS.
Loved every day driving the fiesta, i’ll be sad to see it go.
About the creaky plastics on the car, my mates 2016 Audi S7 has creaky plastics too lol even more so than my ST.
If you poke and prod around most cars interior made using plastic, it will also creak.
Indeed, the plastics on the interior, particularly the dash is dreadful but that’s my only complaint. I’m at 111,000 miles now been, running Cobb 93 octane stage one since the 50k mile mark and it’s as good as the day I bought it. Just added the boosted designs dead pedal (HIGHLY recommend) and a real leather shift boot with red stitching. Just little things but it is the little things that make life more interesting sometimes and I love this car more and more every time I get in it. Thought about going stage two but with this many miles I just can’t justify the $1500.
this mans face between 6:30 and 6:45 is all you need to know. Man's having the time of his life.
You described perfectly why the fiesta is such a fun car and how it makes you feel driving it. I feel exactly the same driving mine and I am nearly 50 but feel 18 every time I drive the fiesta
Mine ended up being 315bhp after I said I would not tune it but don't regret a penny
It's a great little car isn't it Duncan! Glad you loved it.
What did you do to tune it?
@@RideBikes_Walkplaces hybrid turbo conversion plus supporting mods exhaust/intercooler/intake
I can’t understand why people hate on fiestas! cheap, good value for money, they look good and they have tons of modding options!
Exactly. Perfect for modifying;
Put an LSD in. Would love to know how it will be in ST.
I have a stock ST and a GR at home. Both excellent hot hatches. I do feel the ST can do wt some extra mods.
Just twigged on you were up near ikea in bately😂
The most fun true rally experience if you can keep up. A true drivers car! Stick to Potenza rubber though!
I have one, it's absolutely brilliant for the price point.
Indeed they are!
I’m going from 2021 330e to one of the last 2017 ST-3 mountune. I’m going to miss the BMW like mad although I’ve given the ST a drive and it’s something to look forward to and the Michelin pilots cost a fraction of the ones on the 330e
Loved my St 3 wish I never sold it
I had only fords until today first a focus 1.4 year 1999 then a focus 1.6 year 2006, after that a focus RS mk1, and now a fiesta st mk7.5 upgraded to 220hp. I want to say that it's the best car of all even the RS, I don't mean that the RS wasn't good but fiesta has also thinks that luxury cars has ( heated seats, clima etc). It's an all day car and a track car at the same time. No problems until now bought used 56000km. Now at 80000km
Totally disagree with the comments about build quality. You must have had a shoddy one. I've had my 2014 ST-3 for 3 years and doesn't have any quality issues doesn't make the sounds in the cabin yours does. I've done 45000 miles in 3 years (on 75500 miles now) and is the best car I've driven. I'm 50yrs old and have driven alot of different cars since I got my licence at 17. Car will be 7 years old in June, had my 3rd MOT on this car since I've had it and it went straight through with just an advise on front nr side tyre at 3mm (went through previous MOTs similarly) I have never had anything go wrong, replaced all the brakes 2yrs ago due to wear and tear, that's been my biggest expense. I feel safe in all weather's in this car. Servicing is cheap I had a main dealer 6 year service done last year for £250. Anyone thinking about getting one don't just buy it you won't regret it.
My MPG is 41. I do a mixture of 30-60mph roads daily and use super unleaded. That's excellent for this car. Mate has a 65 plate 1.4 Golf and his mpg is 41.1 he's not happy with his.. Cheers
Trouble is with the likes of the M140 and golf R is that they are so refined that they suffocate the performance experience and feel. And they are so expensive to matain compared to the fez and run day to day. Granted the quality isn't the same as the two cars but the fez costs a lot less to buy and run over a year when used daily.
I’ve had my mk7 for 5 years now. And it’s hard to know what to replace it with. Golf R? M140i? Cupra 300? Mk4 Focus ST? It is a lot of fun and with a stage 1 map feels just right. Maybe I will end up sticking with a Fiesta and moving to a mk8 🤔
MK8 won't be a bad choice! I've seen plenty of people move across to those cars and although faster, lack the fun feel of the Fiesta. Depends what you're wanting from a car really
Simply want one
Doesn't the ST overboost to around 200bhp in short bursts or am I mistaken?
I currently own an Ecoboost 1.0 Zetec S 140 and am considering stepping up to an ST. I love the character of the 1.0 and the fact it gives everything as an engine (very torguey for its size) but more than that I love the chassis. Front end grip is brilliant and it's the only FWD car that I've had that seems to almost oversteer into a corner. Feels quite analogue through the steering and seat for a modern car and has a really good gearbox which makes changes precise, short and fun. The pedals are really well spaced for a small car too which means you can play around trying to learn heel and toe down changes etc. It's also been very reliable and cheap to run (economy is more than it should be).
Does the ST maintain this ethos? Does it drive like the Pug 205 for the modern age or should I stick with what I've got?
i don't think i could have chosen a better car for my first car
Good video. I just wrote off my astra 1.6 GTC and pondering on buying the same one again. Before the ST becomes a viable option, does it have Bluetooth? Does it have parking sensors?
Mine has Bluetooth but no parking sensors, there are a lot of ST3s out there with parking sensors though!
I am saving up for a new car, it's either fiesta st or Peugeot 208gti. I hear some of the Peugeots are very unreliable and expensive to fix, but the reliable ones are brilliant and quick, I love the interior aswell. Only bad thing I hear about the fiesta is rev hang between changing gear, our transit connect at work does this really bad I hate it I can't live with a car that does that, does anyone know if you can completely get rid of rev hang, it's the only thing putting me off the fiesta,
You mentioned that the insurance company details would be down below... I cannot find them anywhere? Do you have them please mate? Also how old are you for the insurance to be that cheap? Cheers!
Hey mate, apologies for the delay. Their details are here: www.brentacre.co.uk/
I'm 26 👍🏼
Of course not everything is quality on the fiesta. But it is not in that price range either. For me the reason i bought one is because if you value driving over luxury , and if you want an agile manouvrable car . And if you had to choose with a limited budget of course. Then it is a good car. It drives very good, the car is well balanced. And the car steers ,and reacts very good for a car in that pricerange.
I've owned this car brand new since 2016 now its just cumbersome to drive i.e. if u feel lazy or tired the upshifts or downshifts are just annoying ride quality crap too and you get a nice amount of torque but dies of very quickly, like a diesel. Only way to get me out a 140i is if I couldn't afford it.
They are like comparing apples to oranges, very different cars but both great;
I'm 51 years old, just about to take my driving test, and as soon as I have passed, I'm buying a Fiesta ST 😁 I only have £7000 to spend though, and with sooo many choices on the market, I'm just not sure what to get? I'm thinking I should buy from a reputable dealer, with warranty, and lowish mileage. I even looked at Cat N. The choice is endless.
Looking at buying one right now and they're 13/14 grand for one now (st3) 😅 mad 10 month's later.
Exactly! You'll have an idea!
really want one but the fact they get stolen so much is really putting me off...should i really be worrying about this?
I’ve come from the Mark 6ST to Mark 7ST(montune 215) to Mark 8ST (revo stage 1) all Amazing cars. Perfect all rounders, great economy and serious fun when you want to give them a blast especially with the LSD in the mk8. Great choice bud, sensible priced car you can have fun in while saving money for other priories.
Thank you sir! How does the MK8 compare to the MK7? I haven't yet driven one but heard very good things with the LSD.
@@JustTheDriven MK8 is feels like it has more torque, 290nm standard, 340-360nm with a map. Fords little 3 pot dragon engine is a blast load of low down grunt and makes a great noise, with a stage one map alone your looking at stage 2 figures for MK7 however, the Mark 7 did feel stronger top end. I think at the moment value for money lie with the mk7. I went for the MK8 for the interior. It’s definitely an upgrade but not light and day.
Not that anyone is ever really bothered about what cars anyone has owned prior and without wanting to reiterate the point already made but… just to jump on the band wagon here. I’ve had 2 Fiesta ST’s, I then went to an M140i which was a great car and silly quick, but ultimately flawed as the chassis and the engine imo didn’t match too well on a hard drive, I then went to a 2 car set up with a 320d estate daily and an E92 M3 manual. I must say not many things can match the joy that a V8 revving to 8,300rpm gives however, now that’s out of my system, I decided to go back to the fez bomb and bought a fiesta st 200. It’s running revo stage 2 with a full miltek system and on H&R springs. It is ultimately slower down a motorway than the M3 and probably on a decent sized track, however I struggle to comprehend how nippy this ST is on a b road and between the lights, yes it’s not stupid, but the sheer joy it delivers is on par with any car i’ve driven or owned. Great review and totally agree with 90% of what you’ve said!
Dude I’m trying to get the black clips out you literally have to pull them straight out?
Which clips?
@@JustTheDriven dude I was honestly commenting on another video about changing turn signals on the FiST and it must have gone to next video and put it on here my bad thanks for speedy reply though getting a 👍
Thank you sir 🤣👍🏼
The standard engine is capable of a maximum of 370bhp so no one is running 400+. They are awesome cars and on a back road there isn't much that could match it.
anyone manage to get one of these at 18, if so whats your insurance like?
I'm 19 and I'm paying about 160 for full coverage
@@nickscott5790 A day?... or month? 😀
I've just gone from a focus active x and the st3 is £25 a year cheaper
Bells drive Beamers.
owned a Subaru now i got a fiesta... someone please buy the fiesta so i can buy another Subaru lol .
Its a car not a stress ball !🤦♂️
A stress ball? 🤣
@@JustTheDriven stop touching the plastics !! 🥸
I know I know 😁 just to clarify a point that's all
I have a 2016 fiesta ST then I bought in 2016 zero problems and it's my daily. I have a 91 Civic SI with a turbo fully built engine so the fiesta I drive everywhere. I think I've had two flat tires in the whole time. And BMW is oh yeah they're premium find used for dirt cheap you better have a deep pocket to fix all the issues with them. I live in Bismarck North Dakota USA and my fiesta gets driven in snow storms and everywhere so. Crap makes me laugh