STAGE 1 vs STOCK | Fiesta ST - WHAT DIFFERENCE WILL IT MAKE?!
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WARNING
I thought I would raise this as it's worth noting for the guys/girls watching my videos.
As you know in this video I'm running the Vudu Stage 1 tune on my Fiesta ST from AET. Ive known AET for a fair while now and for the most part had very positive experiences of the company. Recently I made a general life decision (nothing to do with TH-cam)
This resulted in me being banned from some of the Facebook groups, and no doubt slandered in other ways too. Again, I'm not saying anything is wrong with the products (map was fine, intake is fine etc.) But the way things have been handled is out of order.
Just bear that in mind if you're wanting to deal with them.
Normally with a stage 1 they raise the reg limit. This should allow you to hit 60 in second if you go all the way to the limiter. I hit a 5.46 0-60 stage 1
What brand stage 1 got you that?
@@josephbelanszky9258 TRS Performance. I have it on Dragy and video. The map isn't what gets you the time, it's avoiding wheel spin that does.
@@josephbelanszky9258 to put it in perspective, most runs I got where 5.9-6.1. I had only a few where the car hooked and got no spin at all, which is when I hit the 5.46
Drop the tyres pressure to around 25-26 psi on the fronts it helped my fwd Cupra 346 hp)
Was still still spinning in 2nd but much less than they were at 31 psi.
A short shift will take a thousand of a 2nd off too! Dragy becomes addictive...
Think these ST’s are very highly underrated. Even though it might not be as fast as a stock 140 or S3 it makes up for on track with its cornering and with its tuneability. Brilliant video josh.
They are to be honest Ben. Plenty of people hate on them but most who do haven't driven one... Properly fun car to drive in the right hands or not... Thanks mate 👍🏼
I've owed the Golf R and now the ST. The ST is wayyyy more fun.
The chassis is massively underrated imo.
100% cannot agree with you anymore mate. Golf R is a great daily/fast straight line car, but they're not fun to drive!
@@JXLPerformance spot on. On b road/track the Golf is boring in comparison.
@@JXLPerformance definitely a fun little car. All the hate on all these fb groups is why people don’t like them really. Track weapon aswell.
Similar to you, gone from an M135i to a Fiesta ST, its going in for a Stage 2 next week, so much more fun than the BMW. My first mod was a short shifter, best £32 I have spent on a car. Loved the video.
I haven't got one yet, one that's next on the list!!
Get yourself some decent tyres next! I love the difference a map makes to them. How it should have been from factory i feel!
That's on the agenda Gav 👍🏼 hopefully fairly soon!
Shifts at 5,500. That's where I shift. Stock turbo kinda falls off past there. 2000 rpm launches were best at take off, but with the 3.82 final drive ratio I bet better accel times would be had taking off in 2nd gear.
Yep, no doubt with the ST200 gearbox acceleration would be better and you could then warrant a 2nd gear start, it just bogs down a little from stock.
Interested to see how the times change now I have an X48R turbo on the car!
You know what I’m going to say 😏 There seems to be some decent deals around and Tyre Shopper keeps giving me a 5% discount. Feel free to take it if they end up being cheapest around 😉
I'll have to have a look! Tyres are needed 110%
Makes me smile that a stock Integra R will still out drag a stock ST despite no turbo & being over 20yrs old.
I wonder how they’d both fare on track together
I think it would be a pretty good battle to be honest!
If u lose weight u get free stage 3 🤣
👏 who put 50p in you today?
@@JXLPerformance just kidding man like ur movies ;)
trying to find a blue fiesta st3 to buy, do you know anyone?
Want to take my ST to stage 1 but the process of it confuses me... with the Revo website am I supposed to contact the dealers separately or is it done through the website?
Not sure to be honest, never used Revo
@@JXLPerformance Who did you get the stage 1 with? Mountune was it?
@@AdeftTV Vudu very briefly and then Pumaspeed for the rest of the tuning
Waiting for my warranty to expire on my mk8 before doing this! Although the mk8 in stock is still quick enough for B roads !
Hi mate, did you have to change the clutch out for the stage 1 map? Debating going stage 1 with mine, just worried about clutch
Nope, I had the standard clutch from standard up to 350bhp!
Thanks for the video 📹
No problem sir
Just found your channel, Jusy picked up an st-2 wondering what power did this make if you’ve dynod it
Yep, you cant stop smiling in these cars.I went the same route.Revo +1 map,Itg intake.Stuck on sp4,s.Sports rear engine mount,Nkg plugs and cars a wee torque monster. You will find that out when you get sticky tyers.Great video, bringing back those early memory. Enjoying the channel keep it up.
The reason its unverified is because gravity assists acceleration leaving you with less torque to put down, on a negative slope hence better traction , because of reduced inertia.
Since it’s the same 1.6 ecoboost minus the manual transmission in the US. Would bolt ons work on the escape aswell?
Possibly, but I don’t think many things will be direct fit (intercooler, exhaust, downpipe etc.)
There is a Focus 1.6 EcoBoost in the UK with the same engine (some have vacuum operated actuators) and they are the same, in principle the parts fit and work, but a lot of custom mounting is needed.
How's your m140 doing
I couldn't belive the difference just a map made to my fairly standard ST. haven't felt like I needed more since
It's a great addition, nice jump up in power without changing the driveability. Glad you're enjoying it
So a stage 1 only gives you what? About 10 to 20 extra bhp can you really feel the difference?
@@danh2310 yes, because in 1st and 2nd your actually getting an extra 40/50 as they're limited to 180 before the map
@@dannyfawcett8253 thanks mate picking one up tomorrow was thinking about getting stage 1
@@dannyfawcett8253 hp or torqueg.
About to pickup a 14 plate mountuned st3 with 17k miles on it and just binging your fiesta content to prepare myself for it
Keep your eyes peeled, will be more coming 👍🏼
Now then! Great vid!
2 questions - is this the Stage 1 or 1+ map from Vudu? You’ve probably said multiple times but I can’t remember haha.. other thing, do you know if the 1+ package can be mapped to include pop and bangs?? I have a miltek non red race, but a stock cat.. so unsure?? Don’t want excessive decel.. but some reasonable burbles would be sick!
I got stock everything but a cat back and i get burbles, so i imagine the maps alone will give you that, seems that way from what i've seen anyway
I have Michelin Pilots on my MK8 ST definitely make a huge difference compared to the Protenza's that come on the MK7. Are you thinking of getting a LSD fitted? that would round off the car👍
LSD is on the ever growing list! PS4s or Goodyear's too methinks
@@JXLPerformance Go for Pilots good in the wet as well as the dry👍
Quality vid bud, tyres defiantly next. PS4s recommended 😎
Thanks mate 👍🏼
Love the content the e30 makes a heck of a difference in the stage one support from the us
Thanks ❤️ how much difference did you notice with E30?
Besides the Numbers difference, I find the feel of the torque / power is enhanced with just a stage one flash tune.
100%, everything is just dialled up another level
@@JXLPerformance also with some tunes the Rev hang is lessened so shifting from first to second gear is smoother which is a nice improvement.
Yeah I've heard that, don't think this Vudu has that but the other tunes do!
I’n you’re opinion is it worth going pumasport stage 1 or mountune mp215? In terms of speed increase, and factoring resale? Cheers bro great vid
Pumaspeed 110%
Thanks mate.
@@JXLPerformance cheers bro, even for resale? I don’t want to decrease interest when I sell?
You can return it back to stock if you use the MAXD Programmer so it wouldn't affect values
@@JXLPerformance Just had a look mate, very good value also on the 235bhp upgrade, cheers for the recommendation much appreciated to a Lehman like myself 😂
Great vid mate
Thanks Chris, appreciate it!
No prob mate be great to see the other mods you stat doing to the car. There is some mad fiesta st's out there at the moment proper naughty little cars
Can't wait to get properly started on it mate to be honest, there's quite a few options so it's quite hard to make a choice
At stage 1 tune, nowt much will ever get out of sight on your favourite stretches of road. Bargain, indeed. 😀
Yes indeed! The Fiesta surprises once again!
My wife says similar even standard tune. People (guys) tend to underestimate a female ST3. Then get upset and do Crazy stunts😳
🤣 They can't handle it! The amount of people my car has surprised after having this is too high 😁😬
When’s the next video mate
Should be up next Saturday, got a bunch to film/edit 👌🏼👍🏼
More powah more fassssst
Soon be coming!
How much was the map from Vudo mate? I'm only down the road from AET.
With the Vudu flasher it works out just short of £500 mate
@@JXLPerformance thanks. I'll look into it. It's a toss up between them and pumaspeed for me at the moment.
@@jimmyjt16 Which map did you choose? I'm looking to map mine soon.
@@sammybaker4767 neither. I sold the car and bought a nicer lower mileage one. It has the mountune 215 kit fitted which I'm happy with for now.
You going big power ?
I'd like to mate 👍🏼
Toyo TR1Rs have a new compound and are recommended. My Stage 2 has responded really well to them to get the power down.
Might have to check these out! Thanks Rob
Is reliable this engines and gearboxes mate??
Yes, up to 340bhp
After that engine requires building, 300-340 is the sweet spot
@@JXLPerformance what to look out for in his market? I have heard that they have a problem with overheating is it true? and do these engines still make miles? e.g. over 200-250,000 ?? With the best maintenance!