Everybody says the FiST is a fun weekend car, but a harsh daily driver. As an owner for the last 2 years, I say the suspension not only makes commuting fun, but also keeps me awake and focused even on longer journeys. For this reason, I couldn't imagine a better daily driver. If you want to sleep behind the wheel, this is not your car. But if you're the type of person who thinks the best part of any job is getting there and back, you'll love it.
Exactly, a month ago did 1200 miles in my Fiesta ST, stock. That's genuinely my first time having a car and not wanting to put it on coilovers, because it's so good. I live in Scotland, so have lots of twisty roads, where it is just perfect how it keep its grip in tight corner even on slightly wet asphalt. Potholes in cities are really sufferable in this car, especially when whole car is so small that you can avoid most of them while still staying in your lane.
Normally I wouldn't care about ride, my previous car was a Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V and rode like it was on rocks. The only reason I got rid of it was because I've had 4 back surgeries. I don't want to give up a stick or having fun. I'm hoping this car is at least tolerable enough to run errands around town and comfortable enough on the highway.
@spamcan9208 I'm not sure if it's good after back surgeries. My back is OK, and I find the ride just nice. The seat is firm and grippy too, so you don't slide around when cornering. The only things that bother me are speed bumps and potholes, which can make you feel like half of your car just broke off if you're too fast.
been saying that since I owned a second gen....best car I've owned but the power sucked when I moved down south and needed some more ponies for highway ramps....
No one buys a FiST for the interior. The stereo is adequate, not great. The ride is stiff, but that can be changed if it bugs you, for not too much money. Ford put all the ST (Sports Technologies) money into performance, and they nailed it. It comes with 4 wheel discs (the base Fiesta has drums in back), sport suspension and wheels, and a powerful, reliable little motor and tranny that can handle 300 horsepower out of the crate, if you want more power. It has the practicality of a 5 door econobox combined with performance that rivals sports cars in its price range, and I get around 30 mpg in mixed driving. I've driven a lot of cars, including some very high end exotics, and none of them are any more engaging than the humble FiST. It's a giggle to drive. It's the car equivalent of a fast dirt bike. It's simple and raw, and it loves to rip it up; something you don't see much in cars these days. "I spend most of my life whizzing hither and thither in exotica made from platinum and rhodium and fitted with engines that roar and bellow and spit fire. And all I want on the way home is a Ford Fiesta ST." -Jeremy Clarkson
I bought my son one of these brand new. When he graduated Veternary College he got a job immediately on the west coast. I drove his car plus his German Shepherd and Bernese Mountain Dog from Madison to Seattle. The dogs were the only witnesses to some of my driving antics but I can trust them to keep my secrets.
@@roberthunter6433 The dog will fit fine. You can fold down the seats, too, if you need more room. I see you're thinking about one, and as an owner, I say buy it. I've had my '17 for 2 years and it makes me smile every day. The '16 and later have the newer Ford sync, and it works with Apple or Android. The later models have revised suspension that isn't quite as harsh, but they're still pretty stiff. I'm 58, and I'm fine with it. The engine and drive train are used in much bigger cars overseas, and they hold up fine. Very reliable, and I get around 30 mpg in mixed driving. Go test drive one when you get a chance, and I bet you'll want it.
I called an Uber to pick me up from the airport. An burnt amber FiST shows up, crams my luggage into the trunk, and drove approx 15 miles to a hotel. After feeling what can only be described as ejection seat bumps while riding in the back seat, I asked the driver to drive it as if I wasn’t in the car. He got increasingly more aggressive on the throttle around turns and on-ramps. I truly enjoyed the drive. But as I requested, he drove home.
@@Birmingham_racing uner can be any car that 4 doors that's somewhat newer and has a specific amount of miles. People can get a large suv if they need and some can get a compact hot hatch if that's all they need. I don't see the big deal. I'd Uber on my motorcycle if someone wanted to pay for a ride lmao.
Birmingham racing I only use it in snowstorms. When you NEED to get to the airport and 4 other drivers have flaked out ‘cause they can’t make it up the hill to your house, you’ll be plenty thankful for the little FiST reversing uphill to the rescue. And then getting you to your flight faster than any other driver.
I bought it new. I'm an old man, and the ride is a little stiff, but I can live with it. This car has a huge aftermarket, and you can change it up to suit you very easily. 16 inch wheels will soften it up, if that's an issue. If you drive this car in winter conditions, you need a set of winters, anyway. BTW, these cars can still be bought new, and they're going out the door for under 20. I've had bigger cars, but this car is a riot to drive. No other car can make you grin so much for the money. And, it gets around 30 mpg, driven casually. Money I'm not using to pollute the air is money for other things.
Bongo Dave we’re both in our elderly age, and my 2018 Fiesta ST is so much fun to drive it puts out a smile on much face. Also easy to clean compare to my F-150 truck and Boss 302. Also, where I work the parking lot is so narrow that it takes about 3 maneuvers before I can park my truck and the tail sticks out almost to the middle of the lot. This one is a zip to park and it’s just so practical and I love it!
My first car was a 2015 Fiesta St, and since then I have owned a stage 2 2018 wrx and now drive a 2019 Golf R and I have to say that the Fiesta was the most fun car to drive without needing modifications. Every drive was a blast whether you where driving casually or really stepping on it. The gearbox was quick, light and precise. As for the ride harshness, well being 20 year old I don’t really care hahaha. Great review man!
It's hard to type my agreement with this comment... thanks to that sub-heading at 0:35 , my keyboard is covered in coffee! (And before I even got to the real reason for your comment.) My safe word is "HolymotherofgodSTOPPPP!!" And after drying it out and typing it, at 6:31, I did it again!
that whole part with the gay side relationship thing, WTF? that came out of left field...to each his own....that vib was coming across anyway in the vids... you are a great car reviewer bro, Thats why i tuned in.
I was blown away with this car when I drove it. Almost bought it. My coworker at the time had an 04 SVT Focus 5 door, red with black/red seats. I ended up buying the SVT Focus because it was very similar to the FiST and he sold it to me for a 1/10th of what a FiST cost. I love the hell out the Focus, its buzzy and loud but handles and drives very well. I freshened up the car with new brakes and suspension, got it tuned! Its very resistant to understeer out of the box, 7200 RPM redline, Getrag 6 speed. There is a secondary intake tube that I removed resulting in great induction noise! No need for an aftermarket intake, the engineers were clever! Such an underrated car! I may trade it for a FiST in the future. The SVTF is my reliable fun daily while I sort out my other cars. Great review as always, I have been waiting for it. Consider driving a healthy SVT Focus. Mr Geese, you may drive mine if your in the VA/NC area.
This car is the holy trifecta. It's reliable, fun and inexpensive. I've had almost every variation of platform and horsepower over the last 10 years and at the end of the day I feel most satisfied about owning the FiST. I picked up a '17 with 12k miles for $15k and have to say this has easily been the best purchase to date. I use the car daily for commuting and also for Uber/Lyft. It's so much fun to get on the throttle and whip this thing around. I've been getting some good feedback from passengers as well. My only gripes are 1. Everything has a TORX bolt or weird socket size 2. Backseat is very small but I knew that coming into it and accepted it (also this annoying cup holder in the middle of the back seat foot area) 3. Recaro seats are incredible but only for someone with a healthy BMI *I have a driver's seat Recaro but a base passenger* 4. Trunk is super tiny as well but if you take out the spare tire and hatch privacy thing you can fit a few suitcases standing up *I put a tire repair kit in place of the tire* 5. AndroidAuto is incredible compared to most OEM options and still pretty good compared to a full fledged Android head unit. Sometimes I have to reconnect it but I think that's an issue on my phone's part. 6. BRAKES ARE INSANE BOOSTED. I can't heel-toe this car because I end up going through the windshield! All in all, I LOVE THIS CAR! I really am trying to avoid the mod bug for awhile but WOW this car has some incredible potential.
Yep. Bought my 17 with 700 miles for 16k out the door. Best and most fun car I've owned. And I've owned many many different cars with more and less power. Only car that came close to this car in terms of fun were the Miatas I had.
oldwars1 What's weird is if the dealers orders the car with all season tires then you get ceramic pads with very little dust and still very grabby... In other words if the brake dust is that bad, just look for ceramic pads, they have them from cheap import crap to EBC Red Stuff... The OEM are like $85, same as EBC LOL!
i know right, even to remove the under engine splash cover you need torx and several other types of screw drivers it's annoying. mine is a turbo diesel and it is next to impossible to change the fuel filter
The Fiesta St is one of my favorite modern cars of all time. It is not about the numbers. The smallest St is a blast to drive. More fun than any Mustang or Camaro I have driven. When I first drove this car I had to ask myself. If this was available in 2012 it would have been a tough choice between the BRZ and the $4000 Cheaper 50 pound lighter Fiesta St. I have grown to the point where I hate all things FWD. Not the Fiesta St.
When this car came out, I knew it would be my next car. Bought a '17. Cheap, reliable, fast for what it is, and you have room for stuff. One passenger will be comfy. The ones in the back, not so much, but you can do it for a short trip. I've had it for a year. No problems. I really think that in North America, these cars will be a future classic. I don't think they'll go up in value, necessarily, but used ones in good shape will hold some of their value. This is a car for the enthusiast, and a clean one that hasn't been modded to hell and back will be a hoot to whoever gets to drive it. They're rare here, kinda special, and so fun to drive. They also don't guzzle gas, which is nice, especially if you're not rich, or just don't like the idea of using a lot of fuel to get from A to B. If climate change doesn't cause a total economic collapse before then, I'll still be driving it in 20 years. I like it that much.
The harsh ride is part of the charm. I love it when in the middle of a turn I hit a ripple in the pavement and the car leaves the road for a split second then lands, finds it's feet and gets right back on track. I thought you were an enthusiast? You're gettin' soft man.
As someone who just bought a Fiesta ST, now is the perfect time, I was lucky enough to get a beautiful Green Envy 2014 ST with 67,000 kilometres on it and my god is this the most fun car I have ever owned. I had a 2013 Accord V6 6MT before this and I don’t miss the power of the V6 at all. That car handled like an elephant and the handling of the FiST is just another league. If there is anyone wondering whether or not to get one, DO IT. You will not regret it
Let's all do our part: call or write Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Mk8 Fiesta ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Mk4 Focus ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well! Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center P.O. Box 6248 Dearborn, MI 48126 Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673
The Fiesta ST is the car I've been looking for most of my life, but didn't find until I was 58 yo. I don't find the ride "harsh". WTF this is my daily and I love every moment in this car. If you want a real hot hatch, this is for you. Its affordable, super fun and practical. I've never driven a better FWD hatch. The car rides very well... If you want a Buick buy one, if you want a super fun, practical hot hatch, buy an ST.
I'm 65 and have had a 2016 since new 35K miles. Mark really nailed this review. It's a great car and to my mind the best performance car for the money new or used. Biggest problem was yes, the harsh ride especially on bad roads. I finally swapped out just the rear shocks with Koni orange. Major improvement. It's now very livable. It is a hair less responsive but not enough for me to care. I had a Focus ST before this. It was OK but sort of felt like a Hot Rod. The FIST feels like a sports car. I'm up in Canada and run this year round. It goes great in snow with winter tires. Funky little car that has soul. I wish we could get the new 2019 version available in Europe.
My fiancee is from the Toronto area ( Sorry to take away a Canadian to America but we will visit often :) My 2015 FiST has been running a Stratified (Canadian tuning shop) tune for the past 15k miles with no issues only smiles. I have about 245hp/275lb ft ATW and love it. Cobb intercooler,rmm,and cat back and she is just a blast everyday. Yes it is a little harsh in the rear but that isn't a deal breaker for me. I also went to a 205/55 r17 Michelin PSS, love the extra sidewall and those tires are incredible!
I'm going to be 77 in Nov. had mine since 2014 new now has 68000 miles, had to change rims and tires, because I had to replace a tire almost every month, because of bad roads. Has Cobb stage one. had to replace a battery that's all. Fun car!
I’m running 205/45r17 Michelin Pilot Sport 4s and while it does impact gearing the ride is a 1000x better. Larger sidewall may be another option besides coilovers for fixing the issue. Ultimately the dampers are the issue but extra side walls help a lot. I plan to do both at some point
I moved from a BMW Series 1 M to a new FiST. As a semi-mature driver. Installed Peron chassis bracing. Mountune lowering springs and most the rest of their catalog, to the MP215 anyway. Full exhaust. Short shifter of sublime. Roll reducer for the transmission, for quick launches. Shock tower bracing front and rear. Even ceramic paint protection. And 2 door being in AU. I’m 4 years in and nothing on the market interests more today. It’s so agile and the way the turbo rips to redline is unique. And the sound. Very exciting. And small and light. As a daily driver I love it. You know you’re driving something special and life’s too short. Then you get to the long way home
I daily drive a 2016 Fiesta ST, round trip about 100 miles a day. I love the car but the harshness does wear on me at times. It’s easily the best car I’ve ever owned, and previously I owned a 2009 Civic SI and a 2011 Subaru WRX hatch. It just fits my personality, it’s crafty and agile in traffic, and most people don’t know what the hell it is, which is fine with me. Truly a dark horse 🙂
Paid 19k for my 2017 FiST. First sporty car I've owned and it's a ton of fun. Yeah the suspension is stiff, but it's not too bad IMO. The dash does look cheap, but it doesn't glare when the sun hits it which is super nice.
I have a 17 as well, seems like they made a lot of positive changes for that model year. I've got just over 10k miles on mine and I love it. Especially since I basically stole it at 17k new.
I’ve had mine almost 3 years now, it has been my daily driver and autocrosser. 50k miles, several hundred autocross runs with a lot of class and overall PAX wins, and I completely agree with every single point you made. This was a great review. That Doug Demuro guy reviewed this car not long ago and was absolutely clueless. Keep up the good work, love your content.
I'm coming up on the final months of owning my Fiesta ST. I bought it brand new in Dec 2015 (16' Kona Blue) and it's been fun every single day. The ride is definitely harsh, but it's not something that bothers me as much as it does my passengers. I've been fortunate enough to have the means to upgrade my car for the last couple years now but it's been too difficult. The shifter is so easy, the clutch is bulletproof, the steering wheel is satisfying, the exhaust(un modified) sounds cool in parking garages, and finally the pumped-in intake noise just sounds so good to me. In fact, originally I was going to buy the Focus ST (which at the time would have been a financial stretch for me) but test driving them both back to back made me realize that I hated the way the Focus sounded. In fact, I've been shopping around for months for a new car and I realize that this Fiesta has completely spoiled me. Nothing has been close to as fun as this little hatch. I'm only selling because this is the most I'll likely ever get for it. This is by far the best car I've owned and I can attribute years of grins to it. I'm so frustrated that we aren't getting the current Fiesta ST over in Europe and can only hope that we get to the point in our electric future where there's a car as fun as this one. Fiesta ST forever. P.S. Stop Tech brake pads were the best change I made to my car. They are way less sensitive and allow me to heel toe perfectly. It's always an adjustment heel toeing in other cars now because this car is so easy.
To me the interior hits the price point pretty well. I don't want a flashy interior. I want something that's easy to clean and doesn't draw any attention. The fiesta nails that. The buttons are in great places and feel fine to me. I don't ever think about them which is all that matters. Everything in a fiesta is where it should be and fades into the background when you don't need it.
Just got a 2018 and I really like the design of the interior. Ive had a 2018 focus titanium and even though it had more options and was "nicer" I hated the look of it.
I picked up my first manual car being a Fiesta ST, not sure if it was the best first car to learn how to drive but it was very forgiving and I picked it up pretty quick and it's one hell of a little car. My friends that owned mustangs and driven high hp cars got behind the wheel of it and had an absolute blast with it. For people looking into this car that are doing deep research and possibly even being their first sports car, make sure you are aware this car has a short gear ratio, so you'll be changing gears a lot in this car. It's a lot more aggressive of a little car than what the videos can show. It's not fast though, just loud and has feels like it has a lot of torque. It's also hard to really hear how the turbo sounds in videos, but it's also loud. It has a blow off valve so you'll be whooshing every time you let go of the gas. It's an absolute blast for a car on the 9k - 15k price range, you can negotiate good prices and good deals with this car. If you're seriously wanting to own one just know it's gonna surprise you.
I miss mine every day. I had 175,000 miles on it with a stage one Cobb tune and NEVER had any issues that is until I basically packed my entire apartment into it and tried moving back to VA. I made it two miles before taking an on ramp and bottoming out the car smashed right into a concrete barrier, totaling it. One of the saddest days in my life. Seriously thinking of getting another one, the only negative of this car is the cheap interior. Otherwise it was at the time the best bargain “sports car” you could buy in my honest opinion especially with a simple Cobb stage one upgrade. It adds like 10-15 horsepower but loads of torque. RIP FiST, you died far too young. 😞
I have a 2019 FiST from the last year they made them. Your analysis like always is spot on. I can deal with the rough ride and over time I've gotten more used to it. I really don't ever think about it anymore. For the money, it absolutely rocks and I would take this any day over any Civic or Mazda3. It's just so much more fun, even if it's way behind both in interior style and comfort.
Let's all do our part: call or write Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Mk8 Fiesta ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Mk4 Focus ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well! Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center P.O. Box 6248 Dearborn, MI 48126 Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673
It’s not that they didn’t care, the Fiesta ST is still a Fiesta. A Fiesta is a bare bones, basic economy car, they’re not going to create an entirely new interior for one specialty trim level, that would make it way too expensive to sell. People who consider these know what they’re getting, and for them it’s not a problem. I’ll almost certainly be buying one of these to replace my aging 2005 Focus ST in another year or two when it closes in on 200,000 miles, and none of its shortcomings are a problem for me at all.
Loved the review. Bought one new year & a half ago and couldn't be happier. Went in to the dealer to buy a Mustang GT & stumbled upon the FiST. Now, I know the numbers don't add up and the Mustang is twice the car in nearly every respect but, it just wasn't twice as much fun for the price. I'm 51 years old and this is my daily driver (50 mile commute). Mine however, has the base black fabric seats, not the Recaros, and at least for me are fantastic. Cheap, reliable (stock except for ceramic pads & braided stainless brake lines - yeah, it stops HARD) and makes me smile every time I drive it. Interior materials aren't as bad as SG says they are.
I've had my 2015 FiST for 7 years now and yes, it can be harsh ride for some but I've driven this thing for 50k miles and for the price you won't find a better vehicle. I've moved my whole life with this car multiple times.
3 year update for mine 70k and zero issues. I bought this car based off so many great reviews. Stock power is fun for so long, now in the process of adding power and know there’s zero doubts about the reliability
Bought a 2016 Fiesta ST with 60k miles on it, Unfortunately the clutch went out about 500 miles later, but it was covered by my dealer at no cost to me (CarMax, who was fantastic to work with). I've now had the car for about 4 months and absolutely love it. It's quick, agile has plenty of room for daily driving, and I personally love how hard the suspension is. Overall extremely pleased with the car and the experience it gives. As a note came from a 2003 SVT Focus, and this just feels like a way better version of that.
I once had a rental Fiesta base model and once I was driving hard between 60-80mph I had so much fun with this car. How light and nimble it was. It actually left a Good memory of me driving this little Party. Thanks again for a fun review.
I got one as my first big boy car, gotten a couple actual performance cars, ws6 mustang gt, 240, but this is still my favorite car to drive on a day to day, so I started modding, and man, with my setup, it is amazing, got some konis to fix the over dampening, wider tires and fender flares, then I got to adding power, and man, it is something else now, power of an rs, but responsive af, and still good gas mileage but a hoot around town and still ridiculous in all the right ways
I recently took delivery of my Cayman GT4RS but do a lot of short trips around town. A FiST is #1 on my list of fun daily drivers I can do grocery runs and park in a tight downtown spot on a Saturday night and Home Depot runs on Sunday and not worry about it.
Good thing you don't live in Pennsylvania. Manufacturers should road test for ride quality here. If you don't need a chiropractor after an hour on these roads, the ride is great.
The roads are better in AZ because of all the snow, ice, salt, snow plow damage, fluctuating temperatures and 4 actual separate seasons. In Iowa, the temperature is about the same year round because there basically arent really 4 seasons and it never snows.
A bit late but the 2 best things you want to do for a fiesta is spend 800 for the club sport springs and shocks and 500 for an access port get a nice little tune and enjoy how fun the vehicle is great video by the way
I recently bought one, and I tell you what this car to me is amazing compare to your Mazda 3. To start with Mazda 3 is more comparable with Fiesta older brother Focus. I love the little rumble sound it makes and even though it's not like a neck jerker from a start, this thing can go so fast out on the highway that before you know it from 55 mph you're going over 80+ miles an hour in a second. Instrumentation is basic and simple, a plus to me. I almost got me a Mini Cooper where the driver side is like an airplane cockpit because there's so much variety of switches to deal with. It was nice in a way, but could be intimidating. But it is sweet because everything is foamy to touch and I like the wood paneling that it give a more expensive look. Mind you this come with a prize. Ford Feista ST is a very practical car, infact I used it in my farm to load four boxes of lemon & mandarin weighing about 30+ lbs and this car never complained. I love it and it's a nice addition to my Mustang Boss 302 that puts out 750hp (with Kenne Bell supercharger) and my favorite of all is the best truck in the world hands down my Ford F-150 truck. You really can't complain about a car that's being used for rally/rally cross racing and beats all these fancy European half or multi million dollar German, Italian, & German cars in any kind of racing. You don't hear that with Mazda 3 or Honda Fit, do you? Thanks you.
@2:27 "you can tell by the fabric material in the middle it looks like somebody leaked stool on it" SavageGeese sacrificed his personal hygiene to bring us car videos, don't forget.
Dark cloth seats always have it the worst. Just doing a quick browse for some sporty car makes it seem like everybody takes a heaping glass of refreshing milk with them to an auto cross event. You know, after they kiss their locket containing a portrait of Dom Toretto for good luck before double-clutching into XtraDrive.
What you are getting is a chassis that out handles just about everything on the highway and an engine with 200 horsepower and over 200 lb feet of torque at the wheels a car that can get over 40 miles per gallon of gas for your money you are getting a car that is very reliable and you can mod this car out and makes a great daily driver and a wonderful sports car.
I’d love to drive one of these. I drove a focus st a few years ago and while the power and performance capabilities were surprisingly good, it wasn’t exciting. I think the fiesta st would be a more exciting fun car to drive. -Chase
I test drove the Fiesta and Focus STs back to back on a couple of times. There is no doubt the FoST is the faster car, but the sharp handling and lightweight FiST made me fall in love immediately!
Let's all do our part: call or write Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Mk8 Fiesta ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Mk4 Focus ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well! Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center P.O. Box 6248 Dearborn, MI 48126 Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673
@@AnonAnon-qi4ts it’s like a grown up FiST that didn’t mature too much tho. It’s smaller than the focus but felt huge at first to the tiny FiST which I’ll always love. With a tune a a few bolt ons the VN goes to a new level. The larger diameter wheels and E-LSD helps mitigate understeer which is not bad at all in this car It will cock a wheel and rotate I’m FBO with a tune and will be doing big turbo and meth soon Get one bro
I’ve owned my 2015 Fiesta ST since new, and am still silly about it five years in. Yes, the ride can be intense, but so is the cornering ability. I’m fine with that. And it’s funny... when I’m enjoying the car’s performance, I don’t notice the interior much. I guess my only regret is that it’s a bit too extreme for my wife, so if we’re both going someplace we always take her Escape, which is surprisingly good to drive, fortunately. On a side note, I like a little bit of exclusivity in my cars. I had a 2010 MINI Cooper before, but when they became very common around here I traded it in on the ST. I very seldom see another Fiesta ST on the road. And if I really want to feel lonely, I drive my old MG... ;-)
Have one since new, bought into the hype and didn't regret it (much). I ended up getting a set of Bilstein B6 dampers on and the ride is so much better. Lost a bit of the initial sharpness for a whole lot less gut jiggling over paint strips. The rotation is still there too. The brakes I got used to, but I had previous experience with the first gen BMW X3 and didn't think much of it during the test drive (hint: super touchy brakes too). The heel-toe thing I got a pedal cover that raises it 1/4 inch and widens it. Worked out well for me using the ball of foot, side of foot method. One warning for all though, unless you have the self control of a buddist monk, you will end up modding the car. An accessport to release the torque limiter in 1st and 2nd... then this... then that... IT'S A TRAP! :p Very enjoyable car overall.
"...unless you have the self control of a buddist monk, you will end up modding the car." SO true, I LOL'd at work... see you back on the forum, thanks for your LED info! :)
The brake thing, never really bothered me personally, but I've noticed Stoptech slotted rotors help get rid of that initial bite that seemed to throw the car off entering the corners. Didn't notice poorer braking performance either. I think the stock rotors are just too soft, so good bite, but a huge ridge at only 40,000kms.
Ceramic pads baby, that's all you need... mine with all season tires came with very nice ceramic pads in the front, has low dust but still plenty of bite.. there are tons of choices in ceramic too, I have no idea if I'll go with EBC Redstuff, OEM, Bosch or whatever, but as long as you get ceramic they are very low dust but still like 95% the stopping power of the super dusty ones.
Watched this review, went out and bought my own Fiesta ST. Almost went straight through in a left turn because I was expecting super grabby brakes. Turns out on my 2015 they're quite nice and progressive and need a firm stab to "boost up". Maybe Mr Geese has abnormally strong footwork.
I’m 70 years young and have had my ST for four years now, at 62,000 miles and four sets of tires later, I’m so Stoked when I hit that Sport Mode button, it has a short shift kit intake rear motor mount 3 inch exhaust and visual mods it’s a great looking car. I’ve had 14 cars and 7 motorcycles, and this is the most fun vehicle I have ever owned.
Great review man, I owned a 2015 that I bought new when I only had one car, I got rid of it a few years ago. I now own an NA Miata as my second car and although I love it, I’d say the fiesta st was a bit more engaging and fun to drive. Now that I can own two cars I’m considering selling my Miata and picking one of these up in the used market.
bought my 2014 FiST used in June of 2018 and I feel extremely validated by you and doug demuro both making arguments for buying it used in late summer 2018
This is such an amazing review, and honestly has helped me make up my mind and I’ll probably end up getting one if I can find a nice one. I can personally deal with the suspension and interior because my daily right now is a 2010 XLT F-150 so there isn’t much to the interior (that ST is actually an upgrade) and my work truck is a 2015 XL F-550 and the suspension on that truck is pretty rough too. Thank you for this review! My only concern was reliability and you’ve helped shed some light on that aspect
I have a 2015 model, has been my daily driver since 2015 and I'm almost at 90,000 miles; Agree that the suspension is stiff and brakes are strong. When you get used to the brakes, it works out. The suspension, although stiff, feels great at higher speeds. I would say the only thing I would change is the audio system. Beyond this, its been a great vehicle, I get average MPG of 30 and when I need a few seconds of acceleration, it moves super quick. A great overall vehicle including it cargo carrying capability as a hatchback. Truly sad we won't see the newer model Fiesta ST in the USA, engine is smaller, only 3 cylinders, turbo and same power output.
ScubaruBanzaii When you buy the car brand new (I have a 2017) they come with a card in the owners manual packet that tells you the spring rate among other things and they softened up the springs and increased the size of the sway bar for 2017. I remember a 2016 I test drove was definitely firmer, it didn't bother me but for daily driving I feel the slightly softer springs are a nice update.
windnsea03 It was mid '16 they changed to slightly softer spring rate but with beefier torsion beam and front sway bars... Still recommend Eibach springs as only one that is actually softer but still lowered less than an inch too.
It happened right in the middle of '16, so late '16's built 6/16 or later have it too... and not just the spring rate, they boosted the torsion beam thickness and front sway thickness too so it's definitely better balanced.
and you can buy lowering springs that only go a little bit lower but they are also more soft, mine still stock and its a bit bumpy but well worth it for that crazy corner bashing ability lol
I own one of these (I'm in my early 30s). I think the responsiveness is totally related to the "roughness". I drove it alongside a bunch of Japanese luxury sport sedans. There just was no comparison, the FiST is a lot more fun. I also didn't think the interior was that far off, tbh. A lot of luxe textures inside cars these days just look and feel cheap to me, and aren't worth paying for in my opinion.
The only weakness of the FiST as a used car is that many newer used ones have a hard time competing pricewise with the new ones still being sold and produced until May 2019. I helped a friend buy a new one with the Recaro seats for $17,300.
Just wrapping up 3 years with one of these. Heel-toe is quite a stretch compared to other cars I've driven due to the high brake pedal as you said, but it helps to have big feet so you can reach down to the gas. Downside to that is the hvac pipe for the driver's side footwell is too low, and those same big feet will kick it off from time to time. I've had to reattach it about a dozen times since 2015, so not that frequent. Also something which still bugs me that wasn't mentioned is rear visibility. Between the tiny rear window and the pudgy wing mirrors it is absolutely awful. The blind spot parts of the mirrors help, but if you want to see anything more than 10' behind the car, forget it. Overall the thing was a blast to drive and fantastic in the snow with a set of winter tires. I'm pretty fickle with cars, but I thought long and hard about keeping this one. Mango.
Heel/Toe is probably similar to the FoST. I only had mine 3 days before I lifted the gas pedal up from the bottom with a 3/8 inch shim. Guessing you could easily do the same thing with a FiST.
I bought a used one with 9100 miles a few months ago for $18,100. Honestly, it’s exactly as you say. It’s affordable as hell, it’s fun to drive, and it’s easy to get 30+mpg even if you drive purely inner city. I find the harsh ride okay, but I’m a 24 year old dude who got really used to desert off-roading near Las Vegas. Nothing much else to say but *definitely go test drive this car* , it’s a hoot.
I've owned nine cars over the last 40 years. This car has to rank at or near the top (it's neck and neck with the MR2 Turbo). I've always preferred sharp handling over comfort so this vehicle was right in my wheelhouse. It was such a rush taking the backroads to work and carving corners. I traded it in for a Focus a few months ago and I already regret it. I'll probably wind up buying another one in a few years. I can't recommend this car enough. I'll never forgive Ford for discontinuing it.
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Thank you for an excellent, comprehensive, detailed, objective review!
I bought one new in 2015. Tires with a thicker sidewall do a lot for the suspension on this car, but yeah, the interior does really suck. Engine is still going strong at 32K, but I had to replace the water pump a few months ago (warranty, nbd). People think that this is a modder's dream car, and it really is not. Either put less than $5K into this car, or put more than $20K. There's no in between. It's better left closer to stock than further away from it.
I don't think the interior is really that bad. Especially at the price point. But maybe it's because I owned many older cars. And I definitely agree with the mods. Upgraded intercooler, upgraded turbo, tune, lower, smaller wheels with bigger sidewalls, done. Anything more and it just gets absurd.
I probably have about 5k-6k in my fiesta st. It has a much bigger turbo, KW V3 coilovers, wider wheels with better tires, a LSD, and a big brake kit. With the amount I’ve put into it, I highly doubt you could find any car that can come close to the performance and power it makes at this price, while still being as reliable and driveable. So far this car has gone almost 60k issue free at almost double the factory horsepower.
I've been an owner for about 2 years now. I first got into small hot hatchbacks when I drove the Clio RS Trophy in Romania, been hooked on these pocket rockets ever since. It's definitely an amazingly fun car, I love my purchase. It's a "little" stiff, but it doesn't bother me at all. I only notice it on bad roads, and compared to the Z4 M I used to own, it's night and day.
That was/is my recipe. I did that and the cobb stage three hardware, later gutting the downpipe and going unbaffled right out the back. I also stripped the interior completely (getting it to within about 60kg of the curb weight of the abarth 500). An absolute fucking goddamn hoot.
Aaron Kravitz Never ever. I have owned, registered, and driven about 60 cars so far. The ST was traded into from a 1.4t Dart (which was actually a damn good car). Its made its way into the permanent fleet now. Its a Friday/Saturday/Sunday car from May until September, then it goes back to sleep. Its the best attainable car Ford has produced in a long time, I feel.
Or Dizzy, also cheap but also safer with a smidgen less aggressive boost and smoother, I use my Stratified for specifically aggressive driving but Dizzy e30 all day everyday. :)
I just bought mine last Friday. Identical to the one in the video. Ricarro seats and a sun roof. I’m younger and I really don’t mind the suspension at all. Driving it is unreal fun. I love the sound system and heated seats. The seats are really comfortable. I love the breaks and the power that it has from the factory in the light platform. It doesn’t feel slow. I got mine for $17,400 with 14,000 miles and fully loaded. I have to say I’m very happy with my first new car purchase. They are known to be very reliable and the aftermarket support is awesome if you’re a gear head like myself. Everything is cheap when it comes to mods.
just orderd a sportscat for mine, so incredibly happy with it. going stage 2 in a week or so, just a low tune for around 240, some mates i ride with got theirs up to over 320 with a new hybrid turbo. this thing is insane when it comes to price/performance!
I'm 75 yrs old I live in Mexico with a lot of pot holes, had to change tires and wheels, because I would wreck a tire like once a month, once in a while a wheel. My wife didn't like the ride but she's gotten use to it.I travel to Texas every 6 months, having a new intercooler installed soon. I love the car!
I've owned this car for a little over a year. There is really nothing like it. If you've driven and loved nicely set up 90's Golfs or Civics, you know the 2000s and 2010s were off the rails, with heavy hatchbacks, crossovers and automatics/limp ass manuals. People don't realize what ❄️ s they have become, it's either super good handling, or nice ride. Choose one. The chassis is still very solid, no major rattles or flexing, it's safe (rental Fiesta pushed off into ditch at 120km/h, not even a stiff muscle), and the setup of it can make the Abarth look and feel like a Croc. I drive new Benzes all day, yet walking up to this car puts a smile on my face every single time
I can't help but wonder if these will be collectible one day especially in wild colors. Three Fiesta ST compete at my local autox and the owners really enjoy them.
The ride quality of these things are blown out of proportion. You can literally buy upgraded springs from Mountune (tuning company endorsed and warranty approved by Ford) which not only improves the ride quality but also the performance for like ~$150-$200.
Depends what you are used to. I think the interior is decent enough. Certainly nothing to turn your nose up at. (I’m referring to a UK model to be clear).
Yeah but unlike, say, Germany, not every state salts the roads. Alaska, which is pretty much icy year round doesn't salt the roads for obvious reasons.
It's crazy, I had a MazdaSpeed3 prior to my FiST, but my God I love this car. Just a riot each day, even on crappy Minnesota pot-hole riddled roads. I've had mine since 2015 and it's been a riot ever since.
2019 will be the last model year available for these. Ford is ceasing production of all cars except Focus hatch & Mustang starting with the 2020 model year.
Should have bought a 2018 the new 2019 ST has a 5 speed gear box I reccomend never to buy a car with a new transmission but considering its manual it might be ok but it's a risk.
@@tacklefatkids I think you're thinking about the "ST Line" model. It has ST body parts, but everything else is just the base Fiesta. The ST always came with a 6 speed, and it still does.
I had one of these… and while the interior was all hard plastics and uncomfortable spots to place your elbows… the second you hit the twisties it just was FUN. Way more tuned in than it has any right to be, I sold mine and… kinda regret it now.
Everybody says the FiST is a fun weekend car, but a harsh daily driver. As an owner for the last 2 years, I say the suspension not only makes commuting fun, but also keeps me awake and focused even on longer journeys. For this reason, I couldn't imagine a better daily driver. If you want to sleep behind the wheel, this is not your car. But if you're the type of person who thinks the best part of any job is getting there and back, you'll love it.
Exactly, a month ago did 1200 miles in my Fiesta ST, stock. That's genuinely my first time having a car and not wanting to put it on coilovers, because it's so good. I live in Scotland, so have lots of twisty roads, where it is just perfect how it keep its grip in tight corner even on slightly wet asphalt. Potholes in cities are really sufferable in this car, especially when whole car is so small that you can avoid most of them while still staying in your lane.
I agree. The stiff ride keeps things interesting. Wouldn't want it softer and the suspension is brilliant at the limit.
I daily and even do Uber eats in my fiesta, sure it’s not a soft as a Corolla but it’s nowhere near as harsh as a 90s civic on eBay coils lmao
Normally I wouldn't care about ride, my previous car was a Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V and rode like it was on rocks. The only reason I got rid of it was because I've had 4 back surgeries. I don't want to give up a stick or having fun. I'm hoping this car is at least tolerable enough to run errands around town and comfortable enough on the highway.
@spamcan9208 I'm not sure if it's good after back surgeries. My back is OK, and I find the ride just nice. The seat is firm and grippy too, so you don't slide around when cornering. The only things that bother me are speed bumps and potholes, which can make you feel like half of your car just broke off if you're too fast.
Now that Ford isn't making these anymore, Honda needs to step up and make a Fit Si.
Yes!!!
Unchainedmaple888 I can’t imagine Honda putting rear disk brakes on a Fit!
been saying that since I owned a second gen....best car I've owned but the power sucked when I moved down south and needed some more ponies for highway ramps....
I've seen a Honda Fit at Autocross do pretty well!
@@craigp2652 they did on the Fit EV
No one buys a FiST for the interior. The stereo is adequate, not great. The ride is stiff, but that can be changed if it bugs you, for not too much money. Ford put all the ST (Sports Technologies) money into performance, and they nailed it. It comes with 4 wheel discs (the base Fiesta has drums in back), sport suspension and wheels, and a powerful, reliable little motor and tranny that can handle 300 horsepower out of the crate, if you want more power.
It has the practicality of a 5 door econobox combined with performance that rivals sports cars in its price range, and I get around 30 mpg in mixed driving.
I've driven a lot of cars, including some very high end exotics, and none of them are any more engaging than the humble FiST. It's a giggle to drive. It's the car equivalent of a fast dirt bike. It's simple and raw, and it loves to rip it up; something you don't see much in cars these days.
"I spend most of my life whizzing hither and thither in exotica made from platinum and rhodium and fitted with engines that roar and bellow and spit fire. And all I want on the way home is a Ford Fiesta ST." -Jeremy Clarkson
Excellent analysis and comment 👍
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I bought my son one of these brand new.
When he graduated Veternary College he got a job immediately on the west coast.
I drove his car plus his German Shepherd and Bernese Mountain Dog from Madison to Seattle.
The dogs were the only witnesses to some of my driving antics but I can trust them to keep my secrets.
How is Fist holding up? I have 100lb dog was wondering about the fit for her in the back.
@@roberthunter6433 The dog will fit fine. You can fold down the seats, too, if you need more room. I see you're thinking about one, and as an owner, I say buy it. I've had my '17 for 2 years and it makes me smile every day. The '16 and later have the newer Ford sync, and it works with Apple or Android. The later models have revised suspension that isn't quite as harsh, but they're still pretty stiff. I'm 58, and I'm fine with it.
The engine and drive train are used in much bigger cars overseas, and they hold up fine. Very reliable, and I get around 30 mpg in mixed driving. Go test drive one when you get a chance, and I bet you'll want it.
I called an Uber to pick me up from the airport. An burnt amber FiST shows up, crams my luggage into the trunk, and drove approx 15 miles to a hotel. After feeling what can only be described as ejection seat bumps while riding in the back seat, I asked the driver to drive it as if I wasn’t in the car. He got increasingly more aggressive on the throttle around turns and on-ramps. I truly enjoyed the drive. But as I requested, he drove home.
I Uber with mine during snowstorms. It's a blast when I get fun passengers.
Who the hell uses fiesta as an Uber? Uber should be a full sized car
@@Birmingham_racing uner can be any car that 4 doors that's somewhat newer and has a specific amount of miles. People can get a large suv if they need and some can get a compact hot hatch if that's all they need. I don't see the big deal. I'd Uber on my motorcycle if someone wanted to pay for a ride lmao.
Philip Myer yeah but you need something with decent leg room the fiesta is tiny at the back
Birmingham racing I only use it in snowstorms. When you NEED to get to the airport and 4 other drivers have flaked out ‘cause they can’t make it up the hill to your house, you’ll be plenty thankful for the little FiST reversing uphill to the rescue. And then getting you to your flight faster than any other driver.
A 2017 Fiesta ST is my daily driver. I regret nothing. Absolutely nothing.
im so happy savagegeese liked my car
That is an honor to have.
me too! :)
I bought it new. I'm an old man, and the ride is a little stiff, but I can live with it. This car has a huge aftermarket, and you can change it up to suit you very easily. 16 inch wheels will soften it up, if that's an issue. If you drive this car in winter conditions, you need a set of winters, anyway. BTW, these cars can still be bought new, and they're going out the door for under 20. I've had bigger cars, but this car is a riot to drive. No other car can make you grin so much for the money. And, it gets around 30 mpg, driven casually. Money I'm not using to pollute the air is money for other things.
Bongo Dave we’re both in our elderly age, and my 2018 Fiesta ST is so much fun to drive it puts out a smile on much face. Also easy to clean compare to my F-150 truck and Boss 302. Also, where I work the parking lot is so narrow that it takes about 3 maneuvers before I can park my truck and the tail sticks out almost to the middle of the lot. This one is a zip to park and it’s just so practical and I love it!
My first car was a 2015 Fiesta St, and since then I have owned a stage 2 2018 wrx and now drive a 2019 Golf R and I have to say that the Fiesta was the most fun car to drive without needing modifications. Every drive was a blast whether you where driving casually or really stepping on it. The gearbox was quick, light and precise. As for the ride harshness, well being 20 year old I don’t really care hahaha. Great review man!
Dude if I had a FIST at 18 I would have ended up understeering it in the rain into some shit…this is why ST stands for salvage title
@DigitalRecollections it depends what tires you are running. Never had a problem
"My safe word is Mango" 😂😂😂
It's hard to type my agreement with this comment... thanks to that sub-heading at 0:35 , my keyboard is covered in coffee! (And before I even got to the real reason for your comment.)
My safe word is "HolymotherofgodSTOPPPP!!"
And after drying it out and typing it, at 6:31, I did it again!
came to see this as top voted reply. LMFAO holy shit can't stop laughing.
that whole part with the gay side relationship thing, WTF? that came out of left field...to each his own....that vib was coming across anyway in the vids... you are a great car reviewer bro, Thats why i tuned in.
Regular car reviews is next door.
We saw the video thanks, you don't have repeat it cause we heard it the first time, bye
I was blown away with this car when I drove it. Almost bought it. My coworker at the time had an 04 SVT Focus 5 door, red with black/red seats. I ended up buying the SVT Focus because it was very similar to the FiST and he sold it to me for a 1/10th of what a FiST cost. I love the hell out the Focus, its buzzy and loud but handles and drives very well. I freshened up the car with new brakes and suspension, got it tuned!
Its very resistant to understeer out of the box, 7200 RPM redline, Getrag 6 speed. There is a secondary intake tube that I removed resulting in great induction noise! No need for an aftermarket intake, the engineers were clever!
Such an underrated car! I may trade it for a FiST in the future. The SVTF is my reliable fun daily while I sort out my other cars.
Great review as always, I have been waiting for it. Consider driving a healthy SVT Focus. Mr Geese, you may drive mine if your in the VA/NC area.
This car is the holy trifecta. It's reliable, fun and inexpensive. I've had almost every variation of platform and horsepower over the last 10 years and at the end of the day I feel most satisfied about owning the FiST. I picked up a '17 with 12k miles for $15k and have to say this has easily been the best purchase to date. I use the car daily for commuting and also for Uber/Lyft. It's so much fun to get on the throttle and whip this thing around. I've been getting some good feedback from passengers as well. My only gripes are 1. Everything has a TORX bolt or weird socket size 2. Backseat is very small but I knew that coming into it and accepted it (also this annoying cup holder in the middle of the back seat foot area) 3. Recaro seats are incredible but only for someone with a healthy BMI *I have a driver's seat Recaro but a base passenger* 4. Trunk is super tiny as well but if you take out the spare tire and hatch privacy thing you can fit a few suitcases standing up *I put a tire repair kit in place of the tire* 5. AndroidAuto is incredible compared to most OEM options and still pretty good compared to a full fledged Android head unit. Sometimes I have to reconnect it but I think that's an issue on my phone's part. 6. BRAKES ARE INSANE BOOSTED. I can't heel-toe this car because I end up going through the windshield!
All in all, I LOVE THIS CAR! I really am trying to avoid the mod bug for awhile but WOW this car has some incredible potential.
All agreed. I have a 17 I got with 9100 miles.
I use my pinky toe for downshifts now 😂
Haha through the windshield. Seriously. And the brake dust on our cars? FACK!
Yep. Bought my 17 with 700 miles for 16k out the door. Best and most fun car I've owned. And I've owned many many different cars with more and less power. Only car that came close to this car in terms of fun were the Miatas I had.
oldwars1 What's weird is if the dealers orders the car with all season tires then you get ceramic pads with very little dust and still very grabby... In other words if the brake dust is that bad, just look for ceramic pads, they have them from cheap import crap to EBC Red Stuff... The OEM are like $85, same as EBC LOL!
i know right, even to remove the under engine splash cover you need torx and several other types of screw drivers it's annoying. mine is a turbo diesel and it is next to impossible to change the fuel filter
The Fiesta St is one of my favorite modern cars of all time. It is not about the numbers. The smallest St is a blast to drive. More fun than any Mustang or Camaro I have driven. When I first drove this car I had to ask myself. If this was available in 2012 it would have been a tough choice between the BRZ and the $4000 Cheaper 50 pound lighter Fiesta St. I have grown to the point where I hate all things FWD. Not the Fiesta St.
When this car came out, I knew it would be my next car. Bought a '17. Cheap, reliable, fast for what it is, and you have room for stuff. One passenger will be comfy. The ones in the back, not so much, but you can do it for a short trip. I've had it for a year. No problems.
I really think that in North America, these cars will be a future classic. I don't think they'll go up in value, necessarily, but used ones in good shape will hold some of their value. This is a car for the enthusiast, and a clean one that hasn't been modded to hell and back will be a hoot to whoever gets to drive it. They're rare here, kinda special, and so fun to drive. They also don't guzzle gas, which is nice, especially if you're not rich, or just don't like the idea of using a lot of fuel to get from A to B.
If climate change doesn't cause a total economic collapse before then, I'll still be driving it in 20 years. I like it that much.
Agreed. I drove a 2017 Mustang GT and did not find it to be as engaging or as fun as my FiST.
I love the supporting cast for this channel. They balance out Goose's dour deadpan perfectly.
Jack Singapore is the best and adds a lot to the videos. Scott Turbowski on the other hand doesn't add anything of importance or interest.
@@Craig_Bolin Turbowski seems like a good dude but he came off as uninformed and is/ was a poor communicator.
The harsh ride is part of the charm. I love it when in the middle of a turn I hit a ripple in the pavement and the car leaves the road for a split second then lands, finds it's feet and gets right back on track. I thought you were an enthusiast? You're gettin' soft man.
As someone who just bought a Fiesta ST, now is the perfect time, I was lucky enough to get a beautiful Green Envy 2014 ST with 67,000 kilometres on it and my god is this the most fun car I have ever owned. I had a 2013 Accord V6 6MT before this and I don’t miss the power of the V6 at all. That car handled like an elephant and the handling of the FiST is just another league. If there is anyone wondering whether or not to get one, DO IT. You will not regret it
Let's all do our part: call or write Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Mk8 Fiesta ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Mk4 Focus ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well!
Ford Motor Company
Customer Relationship Center
P.O. Box 6248
Dearborn, MI 48126
Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673
@@danielleroux6490 I’m down!
Great review. I'm 73 and it's perfect for me.
The Fiesta ST is the car I've been looking for most of my life, but didn't find until I was 58 yo. I don't find the ride "harsh". WTF this is my daily and I love every moment in this car. If you want a real hot hatch, this is for you. Its affordable, super fun and practical. I've never driven a better FWD hatch. The car rides very well... If you want a Buick buy one, if you want a super fun, practical hot hatch, buy an ST.
FISTing is always fun.
My safe word is "mango"
For real, my dad had a 2018 fit 6speed for a little while and any time I drove it I was just wishing it had like 180 hp
1:32 that spider positioned himself perfectly under T on the logo. An aspiring pioneer of cinematography.
This makes me yearn for a Fit Si. I'm sad Ford decided to nix the only subcompact hot hatch you could buy new in the US. Glad they made it though.
Well, the only one you can think of anyway. Abarth.:D
Respect the Abarth for the concept, but it's not even close except for maybe for fun... Once you push the Ford you realize that's it's business
Cross the border and buy it in Mexico. Here is still for sale.
@@Dariovich you can still get a 19
If the Fiesta st didn't sell well the Fit won't sell well either
I'm 65 and have had a 2016 since new 35K miles. Mark really nailed this review. It's a great car and to my mind the best performance car for the money new or used. Biggest problem was yes, the harsh ride especially on bad roads. I finally swapped out just the rear shocks with Koni orange. Major improvement. It's now very livable. It is a hair less responsive but not enough for me to care. I had a Focus ST before this. It was OK but sort of felt like a Hot Rod. The FIST feels like a sports car. I'm up in Canada and run this year round. It goes great in snow with winter tires. Funky little car that has soul. I wish we could get the new 2019 version available in Europe.
My fiancee is from the Toronto area ( Sorry to take away a Canadian to America but we will visit often :) My 2015 FiST has been running a Stratified (Canadian tuning shop) tune for the past 15k miles with no issues only smiles. I have about 245hp/275lb ft ATW and love it. Cobb intercooler,rmm,and cat back and she is just a blast everyday. Yes it is a little harsh in the rear but that isn't a deal breaker for me. I also went to a 205/55 r17 Michelin PSS, love the extra sidewall and those tires are incredible!
@@@bt7482 .... How did you resolve the speedo problem by increasing the sidewall tyre size?
I'm going to be 77 in Nov. had mine since 2014 new now has 68000 miles, had to change rims and tires, because I had to replace a tire almost every month, because of bad roads. Has Cobb stage one. had to replace a battery that's all. Fun car!
I’m running 205/45r17 Michelin Pilot Sport 4s and while it does impact gearing the ride is a 1000x better. Larger sidewall may be another option besides coilovers for fixing the issue. Ultimately the dampers are the issue but extra side walls help a lot. I plan to do both at some point
Cee Bee you don’t running 205 45 r17 the difference is 0-3 mph under 90
I have a '17 FiST and had a 2015 Charger RT behind me on some back country twisty turneys, and he had one hell of a time trying to keep up with me.
I moved from a BMW Series 1 M to a new FiST. As a semi-mature driver. Installed Peron chassis bracing. Mountune lowering springs and most the rest of their catalog, to the MP215 anyway. Full exhaust. Short shifter of sublime. Roll reducer for the transmission, for quick launches. Shock tower bracing front and rear. Even ceramic paint protection. And 2 door being in AU. I’m 4 years in and nothing on the market interests more today. It’s so agile and the way the turbo rips to redline is unique. And the sound. Very exciting. And small and light. As a daily driver I love it. You know you’re driving something special and life’s too short. Then you get to the long way home
I daily drive a 2016 Fiesta ST, round trip about 100 miles a day. I love the car but the harshness does wear on me at times. It’s easily the best car I’ve ever owned, and previously I owned a 2009 Civic SI and a 2011 Subaru WRX hatch. It just fits my personality, it’s crafty and agile in traffic, and most people don’t know what the hell it is, which is fine with me. Truly a dark horse 🙂
Paid 19k for my 2017 FiST. First sporty car I've owned and it's a ton of fun. Yeah the suspension is stiff, but it's not too bad IMO. The dash does look cheap, but it doesn't glare when the sun hits it which is super nice.
I have a 17 as well, seems like they made a lot of positive changes for that model year. I've got just over 10k miles on mine and I love it. Especially since I basically stole it at 17k new.
Jared Remillard did you get the Reacaro seats?
I’ve had mine almost 3 years now, it has been my daily driver and autocrosser. 50k miles, several hundred autocross runs with a lot of class and overall PAX wins, and I completely agree with every single point you made. This was a great review. That Doug Demuro guy reviewed this car not long ago and was absolutely clueless. Keep up the good work, love your content.
Looking to get one as daily driver? Still glad you have Fiesta ST?
Robert Hunter I daily drive a 2017 Fiesta ST. What do you want to know?
I'm coming up on the final months of owning my Fiesta ST. I bought it brand new in Dec 2015 (16' Kona Blue) and it's been fun every single day. The ride is definitely harsh, but it's not something that bothers me as much as it does my passengers. I've been fortunate enough to have the means to upgrade my car for the last couple years now but it's been too difficult. The shifter is so easy, the clutch is bulletproof, the steering wheel is satisfying, the exhaust(un modified) sounds cool in parking garages, and finally the pumped-in intake noise just sounds so good to me. In fact, originally I was going to buy the Focus ST (which at the time would have been a financial stretch for me) but test driving them both back to back made me realize that I hated the way the Focus sounded. In fact, I've been shopping around for months for a new car and I realize that this Fiesta has completely spoiled me. Nothing has been close to as fun as this little hatch. I'm only selling because this is the most I'll likely ever get for it. This is by far the best car I've owned and I can attribute years of grins to it. I'm so frustrated that we aren't getting the current Fiesta ST over in Europe and can only hope that we get to the point in our electric future where there's a car as fun as this one. Fiesta ST forever. P.S. Stop Tech brake pads were the best change I made to my car. They are way less sensitive and allow me to heel toe perfectly. It's always an adjustment heel toeing in other cars now because this car is so easy.
I daily drive my FiST. Aside from the harsh ride I couldn't be happier. Mine is lowered too. Fantastic car to drive in any condition and so useable!
I personally like the interior of the Fiesta ST. I never felt like it was unbearably cheap, just simple.
To me the interior hits the price point pretty well. I don't want a flashy interior. I want something that's easy to clean and doesn't draw any attention. The fiesta nails that. The buttons are in great places and feel fine to me. I don't ever think about them which is all that matters. Everything in a fiesta is where it should be and fades into the background when you don't need it.
Just got a 2018 and I really like the design of the interior. Ive had a 2018 focus titanium and even though it had more options and was "nicer" I hated the look of it.
I picked up my first manual car being a Fiesta ST, not sure if it was the best first car to learn how to drive but it was very forgiving and I picked it up pretty quick and it's one hell of a little car. My friends that owned mustangs and driven high hp cars got behind the wheel of it and had an absolute blast with it. For people looking into this car that are doing deep research and possibly even being their first sports car, make sure you are aware this car has a short gear ratio, so you'll be changing gears a lot in this car. It's a lot more aggressive of a little car than what the videos can show. It's not fast though, just loud and has feels like it has a lot of torque. It's also hard to really hear how the turbo sounds in videos, but it's also loud. It has a blow off valve so you'll be whooshing every time you let go of the gas. It's an absolute blast for a car on the 9k - 15k price range, you can negotiate good prices and good deals with this car. If you're seriously wanting to own one just know it's gonna surprise you.
I miss mine every day. I had 175,000 miles on it with a stage one Cobb tune and NEVER had any issues that is until I basically packed my entire apartment into it and tried moving back to VA. I made it two miles before taking an on ramp and bottoming out the car smashed right into a concrete barrier, totaling it. One of the saddest days in my life. Seriously thinking of getting another one, the only negative of this car is the cheap interior. Otherwise it was at the time the best bargain “sports car” you could buy in my honest opinion especially with a simple Cobb stage one upgrade. It adds like 10-15 horsepower but loads of torque. RIP FiST, you died far too young. 😞
Sounds like you just put too much weight in it. Any vehicle will do the same if you overload it.
I have a 2019 FiST from the last year they made them. Your analysis like always is spot on. I can deal with the rough ride and over time I've gotten more used to it. I really don't ever think about it anymore. For the money, it absolutely rocks and I would take this any day over any Civic or Mazda3. It's just so much more fun, even if it's way behind both in interior style and comfort.
Let's all do our part: call or write Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Mk8 Fiesta ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Mk4 Focus ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well!
Ford Motor Company
Customer Relationship Center
P.O. Box 6248
Dearborn, MI 48126
Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673
It’s not that they didn’t care, the Fiesta ST is still a Fiesta. A Fiesta is a bare bones, basic economy car, they’re not going to create an entirely new interior for one specialty trim level, that would make it way too expensive to sell. People who consider these know what they’re getting, and for them it’s not a problem. I’ll almost certainly be buying one of these to replace my aging 2005 Focus ST in another year or two when it closes in on 200,000 miles, and none of its shortcomings are a problem for me at all.
Loved the review.
Bought one new year & a half ago and couldn't be happier. Went in to the dealer to buy a Mustang GT & stumbled upon the FiST. Now, I know the numbers don't add up and the Mustang is twice the car in nearly every respect but, it just wasn't twice as much fun for the price. I'm 51 years old and this is my daily driver (50 mile commute). Mine however, has the base black fabric seats, not the Recaros, and at least for me are fantastic. Cheap, reliable (stock except for ceramic pads & braided stainless brake lines - yeah, it stops HARD) and makes me smile every time I drive it. Interior materials aren't as bad as SG says they are.
Thank you for this amazing review. Got my 2016 FiST used with 23k miles on it and it's probably one of the best purchases I've committed to thus far.
I liked the look of the 2 door version, which of course wasn’t available in North America
THIS! I might have bought one if they'd made the 2-door available here.
It's 150lbs lighter, too. Real bummer.
I've had my 2015 FiST for 7 years now and yes, it can be harsh ride for some but I've driven this thing for 50k miles and for the price you won't find a better vehicle. I've moved my whole life with this car multiple times.
I love vids with Mr Singapore, never disappointed in his sense of humour lol
Couldn't agree more. I love Scott's sense of humor and mechanical knowledge but mr. Singapore is much more objective.
3 year update for mine 70k and zero issues. I bought this car based off so many great reviews. Stock power is fun for so long, now in the process of adding power and know there’s zero doubts about the reliability
Bought a 2016 Fiesta ST with 60k miles on it, Unfortunately the clutch went out about 500 miles later, but it was covered by my dealer at no cost to me (CarMax, who was fantastic to work with).
I've now had the car for about 4 months and absolutely love it. It's quick, agile has plenty of room for daily driving, and I personally love how hard the suspension is. Overall extremely pleased with the car and the experience it gives.
As a note came from a 2003 SVT Focus, and this just feels like a way better version of that.
That car must have been hammered hard!... Mine is a 2014 with 110 000 kms and clutch is just like new... Hell... All the car feels like new!
@@AthenaAutocross well, mine is 9 years old now with 110k kms and clutch is like new so no 'common issue' with me.
I once had a rental Fiesta base model and once I was driving hard between 60-80mph I had so much fun with this car. How light and nimble it was. It actually left a Good memory of me driving this little Party. Thanks again for a fun review.
I got one as my first big boy car, gotten a couple actual performance cars, ws6 mustang gt, 240, but this is still my favorite car to drive on a day to day, so I started modding, and man, with my setup, it is amazing, got some konis to fix the over dampening, wider tires and fender flares, then I got to adding power, and man, it is something else now, power of an rs, but responsive af, and still good gas mileage but a hoot around town and still ridiculous in all the right ways
I recently took delivery of my Cayman GT4RS but do a lot of short trips around town. A FiST is #1 on my list of fun daily drivers I can do grocery runs and park in a tight downtown spot on a Saturday night and Home Depot runs on Sunday and not worry about it.
Just bought a ST two weeks ago and love it. Apparently roads are better in Arizona, because I have no problems with the suspension.
Newer ones ride better.
Good thing you don't live in Pennsylvania. Manufacturers should road test for ride quality here.
If you don't need a chiropractor after an hour on these roads, the ride is great.
The roads are better in AZ because of all the snow, ice, salt, snow plow damage, fluctuating temperatures and 4 actual separate seasons.
In Iowa, the temperature is about the same year round because there basically arent really 4 seasons and it never snows.
A bit late but the 2 best things you want to do for a fiesta is spend 800 for the club sport springs and shocks and 500 for an access port get a nice little tune and enjoy how fun the vehicle is great video by the way
I have stage 2 with a Dizzy tune and it's a blast. Just got back from sliding it around like a hooligan- it begs to be hooned.
I recently bought one, and I tell you what this car to me is amazing compare to your Mazda 3. To start with Mazda 3 is more comparable with Fiesta older brother Focus. I love the little rumble sound it makes and even though it's not like a neck jerker from a start, this thing can go so fast out on the highway that before you know it from 55 mph you're going over 80+ miles an hour in a second. Instrumentation is basic and simple, a plus to me. I almost got me a Mini Cooper where the driver side is like an airplane cockpit because there's so much variety of switches to deal with. It was nice in a way, but could be intimidating. But it is sweet because everything is foamy to touch and I like the wood paneling that it give a more expensive look. Mind you this come with a prize. Ford Feista ST is a very practical car, infact I used it in my farm to load four boxes of lemon & mandarin weighing about 30+ lbs and this car never complained. I love it and it's a nice addition to my Mustang Boss 302 that puts out 750hp (with Kenne Bell supercharger) and my favorite of all is the best truck in the world hands down my Ford F-150 truck. You really can't complain about a car that's being used for rally/rally cross racing and beats all these fancy European half or multi million dollar German, Italian, & German cars in any kind of racing. You don't hear that with Mazda 3 or Honda Fit, do you? Thanks you.
I’ve had mine for 4 years now, and I still love it
Same 😁❤️👍
Same 👍👍
people said the same thing about the suspension when the S2000 came out.
I have an s2000 and want a FiST for my winter car.
107,000 miles, stock 2015 fiesta st, daily driver since bought brand new, great reliable fun car :)
123,000 miles and going...
@2:27 "you can tell by the fabric material in the middle it looks like somebody leaked stool on it"
SavageGeese sacrificed his personal hygiene to bring us car videos, don't forget.
Dark cloth seats always have it the worst. Just doing a quick browse for some sporty car makes it seem like everybody takes a heaping glass of refreshing milk with them to an auto cross event. You know, after they kiss their locket containing a portrait of Dom Toretto for good luck before double-clutching into XtraDrive.
ordered with Stool colored seat option :D
I was a shart.
It was an interesting imagery...
@@illitero im dead
What you are getting is a chassis that out handles just about everything on the highway and an engine with 200 horsepower and over 200 lb feet of torque at the wheels a car that can get over 40 miles per gallon of gas for your money you are getting a car that is very reliable and you can mod this car out and makes a great daily driver and a wonderful sports car.
So much fun to drive. I added an SE as my daily commuter for its mileage (41.3 avg.). But, the ST? What a blast!
I’d love to drive one of these.
I drove a focus st a few years ago and while the power and performance capabilities were surprisingly good, it wasn’t exciting. I think the fiesta st would be a more exciting fun car to drive.
-Chase
It is, I liked it more than the Focus. Test drove one SOLO when they came out, very exciting.
It very much is. It's as far from a GTI or Focus ST as a pickup truck..
I test drove the Fiesta and Focus STs back to back on a couple of times. There is no doubt the FoST is the faster car, but the sharp handling and lightweight FiST made me fall in love immediately!
The Many an Ford engineer said the Fiesta St was the better car than the Focus St when it first came out.
It is I got 230hp just chipping iy
I went from a FiST to a 2020 Veloster N.
Honestly I miss the ST sometimes. It’s such a great car. I couldn’t sing it’s praises high enough.
Let's all do our part: call or write Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Mk8 Fiesta ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Mk4 Focus ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well!
Ford Motor Company
Customer Relationship Center
P.O. Box 6248
Dearborn, MI 48126
Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673
How do they compare? I am interested in the Veloster N. Does it feel far faster?
@@AnonAnon-qi4ts it’s like a grown up FiST that didn’t mature too much tho.
It’s smaller than the focus but felt huge at first to the tiny FiST which I’ll always love.
With a tune a a few bolt ons the VN goes to a new level.
The larger diameter wheels and E-LSD helps mitigate understeer which is not bad at all in this car
It will cock a wheel and rotate
I’m FBO with a tune and will be doing big turbo and meth soon
Get one bro
I’ve owned my 2015 Fiesta ST since new, and am still silly about it five years in. Yes, the ride can be intense, but so is the cornering ability. I’m fine with that. And it’s funny... when I’m enjoying the car’s performance, I don’t notice the interior much. I guess my only regret is that it’s a bit too extreme for my wife, so if we’re both going someplace we always take her Escape, which is surprisingly good to drive, fortunately. On a side note, I like a little bit of exclusivity in my cars. I had a 2010 MINI Cooper before, but when they became very common around here I traded it in on the ST. I very seldom see another Fiesta ST on the road. And if I really want to feel lonely, I drive my old MG... ;-)
I drove this car through the mountains of Switzerland. Best drive of my life.
Thought that said Swaziland at first glance, did a double take 😂
Have one since new, bought into the hype and didn't regret it (much). I ended up getting a set of Bilstein B6 dampers on and the ride is so much better. Lost a bit of the initial sharpness for a whole lot less gut jiggling over paint strips. The rotation is still there too. The brakes I got used to, but I had previous experience with the first gen BMW X3 and didn't think much of it during the test drive (hint: super touchy brakes too). The heel-toe thing I got a pedal cover that raises it 1/4 inch and widens it. Worked out well for me using the ball of foot, side of foot method. One warning for all though, unless you have the self control of a buddist monk, you will end up modding the car. An accessport to release the torque limiter in 1st and 2nd... then this... then that... IT'S A TRAP! :p Very enjoyable car overall.
A trap indeed :)
"...unless you have the self control of a buddist monk, you will end up modding the car." SO true, I LOL'd at work... see you back on the forum, thanks for your LED info! :)
The brake thing, never really bothered me personally, but I've noticed Stoptech slotted rotors help get rid of that initial bite that seemed to throw the car off entering the corners. Didn't notice poorer braking performance either. I think the stock rotors are just too soft, so good bite, but a huge ridge at only 40,000kms.
Ceramic pads baby, that's all you need... mine with all season tires came with very nice ceramic pads in the front, has low dust but still plenty of bite.. there are tons of choices in ceramic too, I have no idea if I'll go with EBC Redstuff, OEM, Bosch or whatever, but as long as you get ceramic they are very low dust but still like 95% the stopping power of the super dusty ones.
I like how your speech is not filled with uh and um. You think through everything and sound sincere about it too.
Great video.
Watched this review, went out and bought my own Fiesta ST. Almost went straight through in a left turn because I was expecting super grabby brakes. Turns out on my 2015 they're quite nice and progressive and need a firm stab to "boost up". Maybe Mr Geese has abnormally strong footwork.
I’m 70 years young and have had my ST for four years now, at 62,000 miles and four sets of tires later, I’m so Stoked when I hit that Sport Mode button, it has a short shift kit intake rear motor mount 3 inch exhaust and visual mods it’s a great looking car. I’ve had 14 cars and 7 motorcycles, and this is the most fun vehicle I have ever owned.
I'mm 55 and drive in Atlanta everyday. Love my FiST.
I'm 71 and likewise - way cool fun; First car was a 53MGTD with the rest of the cars in between all practical. The Fester is practical & FUN!
Great review man, I owned a 2015 that I bought new when I only had one car, I got rid of it a few years ago. I now own an NA Miata as my second car and although I love it, I’d say the fiesta st was a bit more engaging and fun to drive. Now that I can own two cars I’m considering selling my Miata and picking one of these up in the used market.
bought my 2014 FiST used in June of 2018 and I feel extremely validated by you and doug demuro both making arguments for buying it used in late summer 2018
This is such an amazing review, and honestly has helped me make up my mind and I’ll probably end up getting one if I can find a nice one. I can personally deal with the suspension and interior because my daily right now is a 2010 XLT F-150 so there isn’t much to the interior (that ST is actually an upgrade) and my work truck is a 2015 XL F-550 and the suspension on that truck is pretty rough too. Thank you for this review! My only concern was reliability and you’ve helped shed some light on that aspect
I have a 2015 model, has been my daily driver since 2015 and I'm almost at 90,000 miles; Agree that the suspension is stiff and brakes are strong. When you get used to the brakes, it works out. The suspension, although stiff, feels great at higher speeds. I would say the only thing I would change is the audio system. Beyond this, its been a great vehicle, I get average MPG of 30 and when I need a few seconds of acceleration, it moves super quick. A great overall vehicle including it cargo carrying capability as a hatchback. Truly sad we won't see the newer model Fiesta ST in the USA, engine is smaller, only 3 cylinders, turbo and same power output.
The 2017+ models spring rates are 10% softer, it makes for a noticeable difference in daily driving.
Are they? Good to know. Maybe that’s why I’m okay with my 17 and my buddy with a 15 swears they are shit.
ScubaruBanzaii When you buy the car brand new (I have a 2017) they come with a card in the owners manual packet that tells you the spring rate among other things and they softened up the springs and increased the size of the sway bar for 2017. I remember a 2016 I test drove was definitely firmer, it didn't bother me but for daily driving I feel the slightly softer springs are a nice update.
windnsea03 It was mid '16 they changed to slightly softer spring rate but with beefier torsion beam and front sway bars... Still recommend Eibach springs as only one that is actually softer but still lowered less than an inch too.
It happened right in the middle of '16, so late '16's built 6/16 or later have it too... and not just the spring rate, they boosted the torsion beam thickness and front sway thickness too so it's definitely better balanced.
and you can buy lowering springs that only go a little bit lower but they are also more soft, mine still stock and its a bit bumpy but well worth it for that crazy corner bashing ability lol
I'm 43 and the ride is solid and I love it!
My daughter bought a 2019 Fiesta ST and she loves it. She let me drive it and I'm wishing they were still making them.
Two years later, I have a 2018 FiST in Orange Spice and I couldn't be happier. I absolutely LOVE mine!
I'm pretty close to pulling the trigger on a used one and appreciate this great review. Thank you!
I own one of these (I'm in my early 30s). I think the responsiveness is totally related to the "roughness". I drove it alongside a bunch of Japanese luxury sport sedans. There just was no comparison, the FiST is a lot more fun. I also didn't think the interior was that far off, tbh. A lot of luxe textures inside cars these days just look and feel cheap to me, and aren't worth paying for in my opinion.
The only weakness of the FiST as a used car is that many newer used ones have a hard time competing pricewise with the new ones still being sold and produced until May 2019. I helped a friend buy a new one with the Recaro seats for $17,300.
Just wrapping up 3 years with one of these. Heel-toe is quite a stretch compared to other cars I've driven due to the high brake pedal as you said, but it helps to have big feet so you can reach down to the gas. Downside to that is the hvac pipe for the driver's side footwell is too low, and those same big feet will kick it off from time to time. I've had to reattach it about a dozen times since 2015, so not that frequent. Also something which still bugs me that wasn't mentioned is rear visibility. Between the tiny rear window and the pudgy wing mirrors it is absolutely awful. The blind spot parts of the mirrors help, but if you want to see anything more than 10' behind the car, forget it. Overall the thing was a blast to drive and fantastic in the snow with a set of winter tires. I'm pretty fickle with cars, but I thought long and hard about keeping this one.
Mango.
Heel/Toe is probably similar to the FoST. I only had mine 3 days before I lifted the gas pedal up from the bottom with a 3/8 inch shim. Guessing you could easily do the same thing with a FiST.
I bought a used one with 9100 miles a few months ago for $18,100. Honestly, it’s exactly as you say. It’s affordable as hell, it’s fun to drive, and it’s easy to get 30+mpg even if you drive purely inner city. I find the harsh ride okay, but I’m a 24 year old dude who got really used to desert off-roading near Las Vegas.
Nothing much else to say but *definitely go test drive this car* , it’s a hoot.
I've owned nine cars over the last 40 years. This car has to rank at or near the top (it's neck and neck with the MR2 Turbo). I've always preferred sharp handling over comfort so this vehicle was right in my wheelhouse. It was such a rush taking the backroads to work and carving corners. I traded it in for a Focus a few months ago and I already regret it. I'll probably wind up buying another one in a few years. I can't recommend this car enough. I'll never forgive Ford for discontinuing it.
Thank you for an excellent, comprehensive, detailed, objective review!
I bought one new in 2015. Tires with a thicker sidewall do a lot for the suspension on this car, but yeah, the interior does really suck. Engine is still going strong at 32K, but I had to replace the water pump a few months ago (warranty, nbd).
People think that this is a modder's dream car, and it really is not. Either put less than $5K into this car, or put more than $20K. There's no in between. It's better left closer to stock than further away from it.
I don't think the interior is really that bad. Especially at the price point. But maybe it's because I owned many older cars.
And I definitely agree with the mods. Upgraded intercooler, upgraded turbo, tune, lower, smaller wheels with bigger sidewalls, done. Anything more and it just gets absurd.
Yup. Small turbo - with all bolt-ons you're still under 250HP. Light wheels and front toe bar are the best upgrades.
I probably have about 5k-6k in my fiesta st. It has a much bigger turbo, KW V3 coilovers, wider wheels with better tires, a LSD, and a big brake kit.
With the amount I’ve put into it, I highly doubt you could find any car that can come close to the performance and power it makes at this price, while still being as reliable and driveable.
So far this car has gone almost 60k issue free at almost double the factory horsepower.
GTI with just a tune makes 300whp+
agreed on the tire comment. i went down to 15in wheels and have a 55 series tire now and it glides over rough pavement
I've been an owner for about 2 years now. I first got into small hot hatchbacks when I drove the Clio RS Trophy in Romania, been hooked on these pocket rockets ever since. It's definitely an amazingly fun car, I love my purchase. It's a "little" stiff, but it doesn't bother me at all. I only notice it on bad roads, and compared to the Z4 M I used to own, it's night and day.
With a Cobb AP and Stratified tune, the dial is turned to 11.
That was/is my recipe. I did that and the cobb stage three hardware, later gutting the downpipe and going unbaffled right out the back. I also stripped the interior completely (getting it to within about 60kg of the curb weight of the abarth 500).
An absolute fucking goddamn hoot.
That does not sound like a car you're ever planning to sell! Enjoy :)
Aaron Kravitz Never ever. I have owned, registered, and driven about 60 cars so far. The ST was traded into from a 1.4t Dart (which was actually a damn good car). Its made its way into the permanent fleet now. Its a Friday/Saturday/Sunday car from May until September, then it goes back to sleep. Its the best attainable car Ford has produced in a long time, I feel.
Or Dizzy, also cheap but also safer with a smidgen less aggressive boost and smoother, I use my Stratified for specifically aggressive driving but Dizzy e30 all day everyday. :)
I just bought mine last Friday. Identical to the one in the video. Ricarro seats and a sun roof. I’m younger and I really don’t mind the suspension at all. Driving it is unreal fun. I love the sound system and heated seats. The seats are really comfortable. I love the breaks and the power that it has from the factory in the light platform. It doesn’t feel slow. I got mine for $17,400 with 14,000 miles and fully loaded. I have to say I’m very happy with my first new car purchase. They are known to be very reliable and the aftermarket support is awesome if you’re a gear head like myself. Everything is cheap when it comes to mods.
Yaas! You finally did it!!! I've asked at least twice:)
just orderd a sportscat for mine, so incredibly happy with it.
going stage 2 in a week or so, just a low tune for around 240, some mates i ride with got theirs up to over 320 with a new hybrid turbo. this thing is insane when it comes to price/performance!
The mazdaspeed 2 that mazda didn't make... might be my next car. I love my mazda 2.
Another great video. Lover your reviews. My favorite part is when you review the underbody with Scott. Man thats hilarious. Keep up the good work.
Another great one! Savagegoose you sir are a beauty!
Love videos with Jack Singapore! He adds a lot
I'm 75 yrs old I live in Mexico with a lot of pot holes, had to change tires and wheels, because I would wreck a tire like once a month, once in a while a wheel. My wife didn't like the ride but she's gotten use to it.I travel to Texas every 6 months, having a new intercooler installed soon. I love the car!
lol never too old to have fun in these cars :)
I've owned this car for a little over a year. There is really nothing like it. If you've driven and loved nicely set up 90's Golfs or Civics, you know the 2000s and 2010s were off the rails, with heavy hatchbacks, crossovers and automatics/limp ass manuals. People don't realize what ❄️ s they have become, it's either super good handling, or nice ride. Choose one. The chassis is still very solid, no major rattles or flexing, it's safe (rental Fiesta pushed off into ditch at 120km/h, not even a stiff muscle), and the setup of it can make the Abarth look and feel like a Croc. I drive new Benzes all day, yet walking up to this car puts a smile on my face every single time
The Fiesta ST is such a PARTY on wheels.
I can't help but wonder if these will be collectible one day especially in wild colors. Three Fiesta ST compete at my local autox and the owners really enjoy them.
The ride quality of these things are blown out of proportion. You can literally buy upgraded springs from Mountune (tuning company endorsed and warranty approved by Ford) which not only improves the ride quality but also the performance for like ~$150-$200.
Love my 2015! Changing the rear shocks to some Koni Oranges really helped the ride/bounciness and it handles nearly as well.
only downside of fiesta st is the rental-car-spec interior as mentioned in the video.... other than that, it's a great car
Depends what you are used to. I think the interior is decent enough. Certainly nothing to turn your nose up at. (I’m referring to a UK model to be clear).
Angelo F Right, but no one buys the ST for the interior....cheap laugh out loud fun...
That's because you Europeans use salt on the roads every winter. It'd kill a car just after a few years with all that salt.
Driving an 18 year old car here in the Southeast U.S. and still no rust. Move here.
Yeah but unlike, say, Germany, not every state salts the roads. Alaska, which is pretty much icy year round doesn't salt the roads for obvious reasons.
Im loving the music during driving impressions intro
哈哈 是中国小伙儿捐的车呀 Good to see you got some Chinese fans, keep up the good work👍
哈哈你咋看出来的😄
Regular car reviews and this guy, best reviews man
Really love how it doesn't sound like a "total eco shitbox"
It's crazy, I had a MazdaSpeed3 prior to my FiST, but my God I love this car. Just a riot each day, even on crappy Minnesota pot-hole riddled roads. I've had mine since 2015 and it's been a riot ever since.
I don't think Ford 86'd this one yet. I just built a 2019 Fiesta ST on their website for local pickup in Los Angeles.
2019 will be the last model year available for these. Ford is ceasing production of all cars except Focus hatch & Mustang starting with the 2020 model year.
They were going to end on '17. Then they've extended to '18. Then they've extended to '19.
Ford nixed the 2020 Focus "Active" hatch because of the Trump trade war.
Should have bought a 2018 the new 2019 ST has a 5 speed gear box I reccomend never to buy a car with a new transmission but considering its manual it might be ok but it's a risk.
@@tacklefatkids I think you're thinking about the "ST Line" model. It has ST body parts, but everything else is just the base Fiesta. The ST always came with a 6 speed, and it still does.
I had one of these… and while the interior was all hard plastics and uncomfortable spots to place your elbows… the second you hit the twisties it just was FUN. Way more tuned in than it has any right to be, I sold mine and… kinda regret it now.
This car has the best steering I've ever experienced!
Agreed
I had one for about 4 years. The Car is a blast! It is simply more than the sum of its parts.