I've had this kit for a while now. It's awesome. I started with the 100 watt amp, (don't buy that, it gets hot quickly even with only a few effects enabled in Simhub). Slip angle gave me a discounted price to upgrade to 300watt amp. My 300 watt amp died about a month after getting it, but slip angle replaced it, they provide great service. It is night and day, especially if you have never had tactile feedback on your rig. I had a single butt kicker, and this system is alot better. Feeling curbs from front to rear on each side is amazing.
@@TheCameltotem no it isolates each side very well. Assuming you have a profile rig, and the game allows etc. The only issue is the replacement 300watt amp didnt last long either, I ended up going back to a similar 100watt amp I bought off Amazon. It still gets hot though. Slip angle may have sorted out the amp issues by now. If they have I’ll buy another 300 watt amp.
The video is super fair. I think the issue with providing a set of sim hub profiles is everyone is totally different and will want their own frequencies/strengths/effects. It's worth it to just spend some time in sim hub and get it just how you like it. As for transportation of your rig, if you're going to stay with the slip angle system, you might want to build a platform with casters for your rig to sit on. That way you can move it around while getting the benefits of the SA system.
even then I'd say some presets for popular titles could come in handy as baselines for those who want them or those who just wanna set and forget without to much effort. at worst it doesn't take anything away and at best it helps new users figure out what they like or quickly set things up to enjoy a game before making small adjustments as they get used to it.
I think the issue is a fair point but lack of decent setups is really rough as someone just getting into this, for example I bought a moza wheelbase and I’ve been nothing but disappointed as I can’t get it to feel anything like how I’d expect a steering wheel to feel.
I made a system with a single dayton audio transducer and amp and it was WELL under $100 for the whole set up sound card included and was very simple set up
I believe the point of this kit is more about vibration isolation so you can sense which inducer is active more than it is about reducing sound, per se. The "noise reduction" benefit is really about reducing noise across the rig so you can better sense which inducer is providing feedback. It's supposed to be akin to having your wheels in a real car on individual springs and providing individual feedback into the chassis. I can't speak to how well the isolation is as I killed my amp some months ago by using banana plugs on these connectors and letting them touch - don't do that - and I was simply using the LFE built into iracing which does not, as far as I understand, separate channels. But regardless, I will say that using inducers absolutely bring the vehicles alive. The M4 GT3 in iracing went from a complete bore to a harmonious symphony. It's really awesome and I miss it and need to get my amp fixed, and next time start working with SimHub to take advantage of separate channels. Personally, I bought just the springs and mounts because those are the difficult ones to source (really the mounts are the issue). The inducers are Dayton BST-1's and you can use any amp, of course. The price for everything put together is very reasonable, but if you want a different amp, then just get the Dayton's and amp yourself. And yes, being able to move the rig is a problem. I bought retractable caster wheels that require drilling larger holes (with the right bits and drill) so you can threat a bolt through it and into a t-nut. My bit's didn't work so I'm still attempting to get these mounted.
The Dayton BST-1's dont come close to the actuall Buttkickers. They dont last as long, Ive had 2 fail. They dont have as wide a frequency range. They also play far fewer effects per transducer before things get muddied. They are also less powerfull than the buttkickers. Just replaced all my BST-1's for buttkickers. 4 buttkickers can reproduce all of the effects which I previously got from 6 of the BST-1's . Ive speng days in Simhub playing with various settings so I can relate to the long setup times. Im now a Simhub expert!
You're going to need all four of those to replace that one buttkicker, too. I've also had two of them fail. The insides rip apart and they start making awful rattling noises inside.
I bought this kit in Maj and I totally agree. The setup is pretty basic, but the settings are pretty annoying would be great if they add some more profiles or more guides how to get the right frequency for each effect.
When doing a setup, I use simhub. Remeber too. Less is more! In pretty much every game I use engine vibration, shift engage and either Road vibration or Road impact. That's it. Using too many at once they transducer just start to non stop vibration cause they're doing too much at once. I only have one under my seat and one on my pedals. I save a profile for each game. 35 percent engine vibrations, 80 for shift and 60-70 for raod vibes. I LOVE IT! Take it slow it's not as confusing as it seems. Also setup custom setup with just front and rear zones. Like I said...the more simple.... the better!
I have this setup on my rig, i only ordered the slip-angle amp 300watt and bst-1 from elswhere, i also got bst-2 under my pedals and seat. Due to extreme shipping cost i did design spring mounts for my rig. theese are alot cheaper and works just as well as the slip-angle sells. I also had com to that conclusion less is more when comming to theese bass shakers. Iam waiting for the simagic haptic rumblers for my throttle and break, they are very strong and also dont go on the same system as the shakers, so hopefully they will be no problem with drowning in the shakers. But setting the rig on springs makes a extreme difference.
I recomend puttning a rugg under everthing so you can slider the rig easier. Dont get a rug with anti slide ofc 😅 Worked perfect for me now i can easy clean and make some changes on the rig
Thanks for the great video review. But before investing in this shaker system, I need to get a SIM racing rig and better wheel controller - but the cost of the shaker system is very good. Right Now I have just a Thrustmaster TMX wheel controller mounted to a desktop, heavy duty foot pedals, and sit in a normal chair. I do have a VR headset for racing. It works for me. Anyway, Thanks again. take care.
This kit costs way too much. I got a similar set up with 4 30w shakers and a 4 channel 200w amp for less than $150. Paid $15 for some industrial equipment vibration isolating feet and basically ended up with the same as this just slightly less powerful. For anyone wondering no one runs these bass shakers on max output anyway so it’s likely that they would never be running higher than 30W.
Know where you got the feet from? I can design mounts pretty easily myself but no idea what strength springs I'd need so the rig won't be bouncing all over the place.
Is there a chance you could pop some links to the shakers, feet and amp here (or even just the brand and model/type)? I'd love to do the same at that price, but don't really know which ones to start off with.
Unless you share where you located the isolating feet, your comment is not helpful at all. I’ve tried searching and similar designed feet cost over 50 bucks a piece and that’s not including shipping and taxes.
Nice. My concern is with being able to move/slide the rig backwards or forwards, can you slide the rig easily (if on wood floor)? Currently my rig is on casters, as 1/3 of the front of my rig is under a table, so it's easy to slide back/forth when I need adjustments at the front end.
how noticeable are the vibrations and sound? does the springs dampen it so that others in apartment arent bothered with it? and would that dampen so the downstairs neigbours wouldnt notice it?
Hi, i have just bought one but am yet to mount it. Just wondering if its not too much trouble would you mind sharing the settings that you used for yours? Cheers Shane
Been on and off on this one, I have one buttkicker mounted to my rig and I can't drive without it now, the shipping costs have been putting me off specially because I live in Canada and the company is Canadian.
have had mine for almost a year now (200w version - I dont even use it on full power) and I cannot give enough compliments to the experience once you dial in your settings. Along with my Logitech G pro which has its own transducer ...the marriage between the two along with VR makes it a real experience every I strap in...you won;t be disappointed....Simhub even has PS5 consle support now so you can use with that also.....makes GT7 in VR just wow
How much does the average extruded aluminum chassis flex when being supported on all four corners . I can flex mine with full brake applications so its noticable in the wheel and i have 13 inch triangulated gussets(8020 cut at 45 degrees) supporting the wheel uprights on both wheel and pedal side on both sides of rig(4 total).
While I agree, that finding the right springs to do it yourself has provided some issues for me (since we dont have any proper tech stores in germany), saying it is a husstle to find a 4 channel amplifier is quite a questionable statement.
They're spring isolators for the HVAC trade. I use similar ones daily at work. Problem is by themselves they're a few hundred dollars depending on spring strength.
Wenn you're looking for "Federschwingungsdämpfer" on Google, I at least get some results I'd say would do the job. I found stand alone Spring dampers for about 40€ each and sets of four or more springs for 120€ or so. My current favourite would be Systemair FSD4 for 280kg spring set.
More than two shakers and more than a few shaker effects on each and you're entering diminishing returns. It just gets muddy, less is more in this case.
WoAh hard hitting analysis shakers are louder on when off? All your pros and cons are of a shaker system vs no motion. Not wether the spring gimmick is any better than any other shaker setup
People keep saying you can build this yourself cheaper?? Apparently, they have not done the proper research. Not only are those spring isolators expensive . You have find the ones with proper compression rate . Also, those mounting bracket are patent pending . I personally can't find those brackets anywhere. if someone knows. please let me know.
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A5 least do a better job of pirating it
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I've had this kit for a while now. It's awesome. I started with the 100 watt amp, (don't buy that, it gets hot quickly even with only a few effects enabled in Simhub). Slip angle gave me a discounted price to upgrade to 300watt amp. My 300 watt amp died about a month after getting it, but slip angle replaced it, they provide great service. It is night and day, especially if you have never had tactile feedback on your rig. I had a single butt kicker, and this system is alot better. Feeling curbs from front to rear on each side is amazing.
Can you feel easily what side and front and back? Or does the whole rig shake regardless what tyre you hit on a kerb?
@@TheCameltotem no it isolates each side very well. Assuming you have a profile rig, and the game allows etc. The only issue is the replacement 300watt amp didnt last long either, I ended up going back to a similar 100watt amp I bought off Amazon. It still gets hot though. Slip angle may have sorted out the amp issues by now. If they have I’ll buy another 300 watt amp.
@@andrewtsousis3130 thanks!!
does it help you feel tyre losing grip? can it help with recognizing understeer?
The video is super fair. I think the issue with providing a set of sim hub profiles is everyone is totally different and will want their own frequencies/strengths/effects. It's worth it to just spend some time in sim hub and get it just how you like it. As for transportation of your rig, if you're going to stay with the slip angle system, you might want to build a platform with casters for your rig to sit on. That way you can move it around while getting the benefits of the SA system.
even then I'd say some presets for popular titles could come in handy as baselines for those who want them or those who just wanna set and forget without to much effort.
at worst it doesn't take anything away and at best it helps new users figure out what they like or quickly set things up to enjoy a game before making small adjustments as they get used to it.
I think the issue is a fair point but lack of decent setups is really rough as someone just getting into this, for example I bought a moza wheelbase and I’ve been nothing but disappointed as I can’t get it to feel anything like how I’d expect a steering wheel to feel.
Have you tried the Boosted Media/ MOZA settings? There's a YT video.@@christucker9566
I made a system with a single dayton audio transducer and amp and it was WELL under $100 for the whole set up sound card included and was very simple set up
I believe the point of this kit is more about vibration isolation so you can sense which inducer is active more than it is about reducing sound, per se. The "noise reduction" benefit is really about reducing noise across the rig so you can better sense which inducer is providing feedback. It's supposed to be akin to having your wheels in a real car on individual springs and providing individual feedback into the chassis. I can't speak to how well the isolation is as I killed my amp some months ago by using banana plugs on these connectors and letting them touch - don't do that - and I was simply using the LFE built into iracing which does not, as far as I understand, separate channels. But regardless, I will say that using inducers absolutely bring the vehicles alive. The M4 GT3 in iracing went from a complete bore to a harmonious symphony. It's really awesome and I miss it and need to get my amp fixed, and next time start working with SimHub to take advantage of separate channels.
Personally, I bought just the springs and mounts because those are the difficult ones to source (really the mounts are the issue). The inducers are Dayton BST-1's and you can use any amp, of course. The price for everything put together is very reasonable, but if you want a different amp, then just get the Dayton's and amp yourself.
And yes, being able to move the rig is a problem. I bought retractable caster wheels that require drilling larger holes (with the right bits and drill) so you can threat a bolt through it and into a t-nut. My bit's didn't work so I'm still attempting to get these mounted.
I have a setup similar, using 4 small bike springs and the same Dayton audio, works mighty fine !
The Dayton BST-1's dont come close to the actuall Buttkickers. They dont last as long, Ive had 2 fail. They dont have as wide a frequency range. They also play far fewer effects per transducer before things get muddied. They are also less powerfull than the buttkickers. Just replaced all my BST-1's for buttkickers. 4 buttkickers can reproduce all of the effects which I previously got from 6 of the BST-1's . Ive speng days in Simhub playing with various settings so I can relate to the long setup times. Im now a Simhub expert!
But I can put 4 Dayton for the price as one buttkicker
You're going to need all four of those to replace that one buttkicker, too. I've also had two of them fail. The insides rip apart and they start making awful rattling noises inside.
I bought this kit in Maj and I totally agree. The setup is pretty basic, but the settings are pretty annoying would be great if they add some more profiles or more guides how to get the right frequency for each effect.
When doing a setup, I use simhub. Remeber too. Less is more! In pretty much every game I use engine vibration, shift engage and either Road vibration or Road impact. That's it. Using too many at once they transducer just start to non stop vibration cause they're doing too much at once. I only have one under my seat and one on my pedals. I save a profile for each game. 35 percent engine vibrations, 80 for shift and 60-70 for raod vibes. I LOVE IT! Take it slow it's not as confusing as it seems. Also setup custom setup with just front and rear zones. Like I said...the more simple.... the better!
I have this setup on my rig, i only ordered the slip-angle amp 300watt and bst-1 from elswhere, i also got bst-2 under my pedals and seat. Due to extreme shipping cost i did design spring mounts for my rig. theese are alot cheaper and works just as well as the slip-angle sells.
I also had com to that conclusion less is more when comming to theese bass shakers. Iam waiting for the simagic haptic rumblers for my throttle and break, they are very strong and also dont go on the same system as the shakers, so hopefully they will be no problem with drowning in the shakers.
But setting the rig on springs makes a extreme difference.
How do you wire up all 4 corners aswell as the under seat and pedal? I have a Nob sound already and am going to order the slip angle bracket soon.
Got information on the spring design you made? I can design it no problem but not sure what strength spring I would need.
I recomend puttning a rugg under everthing so you can slider the rig easier. Dont get a rug with anti slide ofc 😅 Worked perfect for me now i can easy clean and make some changes on the rig
I wonder if some heavy duty furniture sliders under the spring feet would work for moving the rig around on carpet?
it does, Installed yesterday on my kit.
Best wishes for 2024 and keep the video's rolling in 2024 🎉
Thanks for the great video review. But before investing in this shaker system, I need to get a SIM racing rig and better wheel controller - but the cost of the shaker system is very good.
Right Now I have just a Thrustmaster TMX wheel controller mounted to a desktop, heavy duty foot pedals, and sit in a normal chair. I do have a VR headset for racing. It works for me.
Anyway, Thanks again. take care.
My kit is on the way. Can't wait to install. Great video
This kit costs way too much. I got a similar set up with 4 30w shakers and a 4 channel 200w amp for less than $150. Paid $15 for some industrial equipment vibration isolating feet and basically ended up with the same as this just slightly less powerful. For anyone wondering no one runs these bass shakers on max output anyway so it’s likely that they would never be running higher than 30W.
Know where you got the feet from? I can design mounts pretty easily myself but no idea what strength springs I'd need so the rig won't be bouncing all over the place.
Is there a chance you could pop some links to the shakers, feet and amp here (or even just the brand and model/type)? I'd love to do the same at that price, but don't really know which ones to start off with.
Unless you share where you located the isolating feet, your comment is not helpful at all. I’ve tried searching and similar designed feet cost over 50 bucks a piece and that’s not including shipping and taxes.
A thick rubber mat or car jack pucks can isolate the vibration better than coil springs
I’ve tried responding multiple times with the things I bought and TH-cam keeps deleting my comments… idk why
Bro. Your videos just keep getting better
hey!! vibrating brake and accelerator pedals i have on my old diy rig! lol good to see it being used :D
100% on point review. Happy New Year!
Happy new years to you as well!
Nice. My concern is with being able to move/slide the rig backwards or forwards, can you slide the rig easily (if on wood floor)? Currently my rig is on casters, as 1/3 of the front of my rig is under a table, so it's easy to slide back/forth when I need adjustments at the front end.
All these vids about the rig springs came out during the marketing campaign - then silence since then. Are these actually good or was it all a shill?
What’s your thoughts on this kit vs a single Buttkicker Pro?
how noticeable are the vibrations and sound? does the springs dampen it so that others in apartment arent bothered with it? and would that dampen so the downstairs neigbours wouldnt notice it?
Really only noticeable for me if I have a loose bolt somewhere. I am in the basement so it isn't really a fair test. Way quieter than my win sim.
Happy new year bro please make more amazing content next year ❤
Hi, i have just bought one but am yet to mount it. Just wondering if its not too much trouble would you mind sharing the settings that you used for yours? Cheers Shane
thoughts on how the dampening would be if your right was on casters? Great video as always man; Happy New Year!
Let’s goo another upload!!! Hope you had a great Christmas Oscar!
Likewise! Thanks 🙏
Someday. A girl can dream. Thanks for the review ❤
Been on and off on this one, I have one buttkicker mounted to my rig and I can't drive without it now, the shipping costs have been putting me off specially because I live in Canada and the company is Canadian.
They ship directly from China, which is good for me (in Australia) but not so good for you guys in North America😢
I litteraly ordered this last week, This is making me more exited than I already was.
Haha that’s awesome, lmk how you like it!
have had mine for almost a year now (200w version - I dont even use it on full power) and I cannot give enough compliments to the experience once you dial in your settings. Along with my Logitech G pro which has its own transducer ...the marriage between the two along with VR makes it a real experience every I strap in...you won;t be disappointed....Simhub even has PS5 consle support now so you can use with that also.....makes GT7 in VR just wow
on your pxn v9 video i cant seem to find drivers anymore on their website can you PLEASE help
How much does the average extruded aluminum chassis flex when being supported on all four corners . I can flex mine with full brake applications so its noticable in the wheel and i have 13 inch triangulated gussets(8020 cut at 45 degrees) supporting the wheel uprights on both wheel and pedal side on both sides of rig(4 total).
How do you slide the rig back/forth?
I bought isolators with my bk plus kit and sounds like the same function as the springs🤔
While I agree, that finding the right springs to do it yourself has provided some issues for me (since we dont have any proper tech stores in germany), saying it is a husstle to find a 4 channel amplifier is quite a questionable statement.
They're spring isolators for the HVAC trade. I use similar ones daily at work. Problem is by themselves they're a few hundred dollars depending on spring strength.
Wenn you're looking for "Federschwingungsdämpfer" on Google, I at least get some results I'd say would do the job. I found stand alone Spring dampers for about 40€ each and sets of four or more springs for 120€ or so.
My current favourite would be Systemair FSD4 for 280kg spring set.
More than two shakers and more than a few shaker effects on each and you're entering diminishing returns. It just gets muddy, less is more in this case.
Would you recommend slip angle or butt kicker pro ?
Between $85 and $160 USD extra for shipping and wait times of 15 to 35 days. Ouch!
I might have to cop 🤩
Thanks for watching 👍
@@OCRacing what’s you best recommendation for a cockpit around £300 without a seat in the uk?
I noticed you have an integrated monitor setup, did the 4 shakers also shake the screen?
No, maybe extremely minimally but nothing I noticed in the slightest.
Very nice idea.
I would like to buy these but they are just south of $1000 after delivery to Canada. Pity,,,
So you got some money to spare lol 😂 good vid oc!
Also happy new year!
Not as much as you 😅 happy new year!
Is it possible to connect this to ps5 ?
Parfait !!!
Il a enfin tester !!!
I have a cheap rig from amazon so my wheel makes the whole thing vibrate 😓
0:57 are we going to ignore that screw just not being used?
Considering getting a motion system down the line (RS MEGA+). Would this be compatible with motion? anyone tried?
Is it worth getting a gtlite pro even though I have more than enough space for it or can I get better value for another rig which isnt foldable
If you've got the space for it an 80/20 rig is the way to go, they're very rigid, easily modifiable and very easy to put together.
W video.
WoAh hard hitting analysis shakers are louder on when off?
All your pros and cons are of a shaker system vs no motion. Not wether the spring gimmick is any better than any other shaker setup
Day 2 of asking for pxn v12 lite review against moza r5
Happy new years in advance
People keep saying you can build this yourself cheaper?? Apparently, they have not done the proper research. Not only are those spring isolators expensive . You have find the ones with proper compression rate . Also, those mounting bracket are patent pending . I personally can't find those brackets anywhere. if someone knows. please let me know.
Set of 4 spring isolators £150 delivered. Spring rating is easy as rated in kg.
@@GRPLiningServicesplease tell us where you found them, because here in Belgium I can't get any
Can you share your profile?
In todays episode of things my wife wouldn't ever be cool with me blowing cash on
For 600 id consider it!
Nice vid
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This console compatibile
not sure, actually.
Amazing vid. Go see the 10 hr daytona stream ♥ xx max
I’m sorry would rather spend 60-100 on a DIY get the same thing.
Seems like a nice kit, but WAY overpriced
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The word miss doesn't exist on my dictionary @@OCRacing
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@@OCRacing how
Bro can I partner in your job so that when you miss I can give early tickets to everyone please say yes 🙏
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You can put this on your truck!
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Jesus Christ this kit is MASSIVELY OVERPRICED