@@ianmartinezcassmeyer I'll never understand bringing in two people like this, it's one thing if they are meant to speak to each other, and maybe have a moderator to keep them on a certain track depending on what the topics are meant to be. But this style of interview the person who is not the latest hot commodity gets the short end of the stick.
"As a writer , I honestly and proudly , without fear of violating the law and without the harmful guilty conscience , I can say out loud , I killed someone. " -George R. R. Martin "Como escritor, Honesta y orgullosamente, sin temor a violar la ley y sin el nefasto cargo de conciencia, puedo decir en voz alta, he matado a alguien." -George R. R. Martin
@@sonyabelmontfarenheght1189 and he is killing me while I try to write a scientific work (I actually dont know the right word, but in german it would be "Wissenschaftspropedeutische arbeit") about the historical references of "A song of ice and fire" for school xD
And no one heard it, people used it all through the rest of the show, and even saw some review talk say it for house of the dragon even though in comparsion HoTD was very tame in that regard and the sex scenes were always character driven. Not that I'm complaining, I know people complain that people don't have sex in movies or tv anymore but I'm fine with the kiss before closing door trope. Gives you more time for actual story, since besides a few shows it was rare to see sex and then have the characters act like normal people afterwards. After such a release feeling safe to be emotionally vulnerable and talk about the things that matter to them. Which gave you greater insight into who they were as people because it was treated as real sex and not sexposition. It's also weird that HBO had an entire show revolved around sexposition where a huge part of the point of the show was to talk about and show sex, but that was considered positive by the same people who then later complained about GoT.
The funny thing is that 5 or six years ago he would have been the one to set up that argument, but with current usage of the term has kinda taken the impact out of it, its now problematic and controversial.
She didn't have an agenda at all did she? Mightve not looked like such a jaerkoff if she read the books not just the critical reviews from her fellow ultra progressive teammates
44:05 "can/you can tell I'm a professor" No actually I can't, since you are unable to put together a proper question and are confusing the book and the show. Embarrassing.
A lot of professors are not quite as articulate and eloquent as their extensive educations might suggest. They don't teach speech and rhetoric in most schools anymore.
@@ianmartinezcassmeyer Evidently neither do they teach how to do any ounce of research and to base all of your ideas on supposition rather than, you know, EDUCATION.
Female Interviewer: *Asks question* George: well that’s actually a long question let me try to Lady: mhm George: uhm let me try to dissect that so for starters Lady: yep George : my career as as a writer begins with my Lady: mhm George: 🙄
This has to be the worst GRRM interview I have seen. It has some good moments, sure, but the interviewers did not execute it well, especially that blonde short-haired woman. She tries to cram so much into all of her overly-complicated questions, then awkwardly tries to take the conversation in the half-baked direction of sexism/racism/other -isms. She had the chance to interview one of the greatest writers of our time, and she acted like a squawking turkey on that stage.
***** Agreed. I literally said "Let the man talk damnit" around 30:20 when she kept interrupting him over and over and over when he was in the middle of a great story, just so she could shoehorn in another question.
+Esper the Bard It's a case of the emperor not having any clothes on. She needs to have this jargon and her ideological complication of basic stuff because what she does is essentially useless. What Gender studies boils down to is a cargo cult where people immitate science and deep analysis. If she would just straight talk there would be little difference between her and any other average person, if you set aside her ideology.
@It's Alright lmao true, but its obvious some have higher quality and thought in the questions they ask or how they approach the way they carry on a conversation with George, the best for me are the ones that have a healthy mix of seriousness and joking behavior. Its super frustrating seeing George go into a somewhat deep subject or anything complex at all and the interviewer makes a really dumb joke or remark that's really out of place; awkwardly spoken out of turn. Or when he makes a really clever joke or witty statement and it completely goes over the interviewers head. But when you get the right person for the job, it's some if the best talk and conversation. Some people just wanna see cool shit like this hit its full potential you know?
@@thesicoplayer_2663 Interviewing is a skill the problem is you have those That are Late night hosts or like a Hardwick who puts on a certain persona. Then you have those who are just themselves like a James Lipton or Larry King, two completely different styles the best gold standard old media had to offer. Lipton got people to talk about things in the 90s early 2000s that was so taboo. And then you have people who don't feel like themselves is good enough, and that might be true, so they put on this sort of air of being a friendly, if they can manage funny, tv host and a deep digging journalist. Not understanding that those two modes clash in this setting. It's jarring and feels forced.
I wish they had been able to focus just a bit more on Tom Doherty, he has been extremely influential in a behind-the-scenes manner of bringing Fantasy Lit to the point it has arrived at. The authors are the boots on the ground, but it's people like Tom who make it possible. Also, Tor is one of the few publishers that still accepts unsolicited material from aspiring writers, which is both notable and wonderful.
+Matthew Showers Wish we had someone like him here in Swede. Here the big publishers don't consider fantasy and sci-fi real litterature. Luckely though smaller publishers happily publish those genres. I'm an aspiring swedish fantasy writer so.
Matthew Showers It is one of my back up plans. Though that would be though too since my book is really swedish. You know with the swedish crime, it's similar here even though my novel is set in a fantasy world. The country of my main character is based on medieval Sweden kind of. Um, no. Fantasy is growing a lot in Sweden though. There's a series called the Circle in english which has become a bestseller around the world. Then there's Erik Granström, who's quite big in Sweden as an author but not translated to any other language yet. Fantasy is growing a lot in Sweden thanksfully, but it will probably be around at least 5 years untill it goes mainstream.
George RR Martin got SO bored SO quickly that If you pause it at 6:44 you can see him thinking "I'm going to add you as a character in my new book..... then i'm going to kill you.". I'd wager it would involve Ramsay somehow.
Are Rorge and Biter still tag teaming lucky maidens, and eating live septa teats, Know Arya crossed Rorge off her list in the show but not sure in the book, he could give them some "redemption" in my book by letting them sort this b out, donno if she's that unfamiliar with his books or is just trying to squeeze them to her fucked up frame and criticism
George once mentioned that one of his inspirations was the tv series I, Claudius. I watched the series and OMG I can see tons of ways in which it influenced him. It's amazing if you think of a bored George watching 12 hours of that with his imagination wandering off on creative tangents. I'm pretty sure Joffrey is inspired by Caligula in the series. Olivia certainly gave Cersei some life. I don't see any copying exactly--just starting points on which his wild imagination got started on the epic ideas for A Story of Ice and Fire.... ;D
Q&A is always a waste of time. Same dumb questions every time he appears. Nobody asks anything worthwhile and Tom was totally ignored even though he might offer great insights into publishing and the phenomenon of what makes these epic series' work or not. Leave interviewing to people who know how to do it.
Walter Liddy I like how GRRM always tries to include the others on the panel when this happens, have noticed it in a number of videos of him i've been listening to these last few days.
The work that Tom has done with his writers is phenomenal. Orson Scott Card thanks him many times through the Ender's series. He also points out how the Tor community helps him review his books and point out flaws and weak points. I am wondering if this is a common process in the community. I know they have editors that work with the authors and review, but it seems to go much deeper at Tor. The editor's role in producing such long series is something I would have loved to hear more about.
We should make a list of the questions and answers that appear in every GRRM interview and turn it into a drinking game. One thing I know that will always pop up is William Faulkner's quote about the human heart in conflict with itself. I've heard that in every god damn interview. You'd think people would watch these interviews and come up with different questions instead or repeating the same generic ones.
@@aboubacrinecisse3455 It's the Stan Lee model of assuming there is always someone's first time in the audience, you just hear it more because previously these things were not recorded. When you get asked the same questions over and over you will end up developing a stock answer story, and that doesn't just go for people who become celebrities. Have you ever broken a bone in your body and had to wear a cast? If so do you remember having to tell the story of how it happened over and over when people asked? It's the same principle just different circumstance and topic. I agree the worst thing I know is people who repeat themselves over and over and has almost nothing new to say, but I always take the questions they are asked into consideration. You would quickly start to become distrustful if he had told different stories about how he ended up in Hollywood or how he came up with GoT. And you can tell that is one of the things that he's enjoyed about when talking about the World of Ice and Fire, Fire and Blood or House of the Dragon. Less stock answers and less speaking engagement overall.
I get why they tried to do the question format by asking two questions at once, but it honestly made everything longer and we probably missed out a bunch of questions because of it. I mean they double back every time when they forget the other question, so might as well ask them one at a time lol
George is so easy to listen to on and on. i never would have thought that i would be angry with producers . They should have given him more respect to the guy who actually knows what is what.
I saw I a clip of this interview of George RR Martin answering some question and I though "On Brown? In one, if not THE MOST politically correct, social justice dominated universities? This should be... interesting". So I'm here just for the morbid curiosity. Let's see...
Here we go, GRRM has to explain himself because he dared to write about slavery and women being used as lesser beings and sexual objects in work of fiction in a medieval setting. Because that's the thematics that have to be talked about in relation to EVERYTHING today - or some people think. Let the -isms fly!
+piggy201 Yeah, how dare he describe history in a realistic fashion. You'd think writing about slavery would shed light on its horrible nature, hence actually making an argument about whether it is a necessary evil or if it should never be condoned.
Tom's interview part is actually much more interesting than George's part, problem is it's not easy to follow. I would have George answering Tom's interview, and it would be 9000 times more fascinating.
Yea. "Black people in africa? RACISM!" basicly. (well not really, it only works like that if it is majority white in a historicly white country) I dont get why SJW's dont read up on history before they start screaming about racism and what not.
Because it's FANTASY. "Historically white!" is not a justification these days. It's an excuse for lazy writing when you can't think up a world that isn't just medieval Europe with different names. Fantasy writers have a responsibility to the world that they write in. This is the 21st Century, fantasy has to evolve with the times or it's of no use to anyone. Just like how George included way more female characters than earlier fantasy authors because of the changing norms of his time and the influence of - gasp! - social justice movements.
@@squamish4244 I rather see a "real" fantasy world than a SJW version that makes no sense what so ever. Itis basicly as immersive as puting palmtrees up at the Wall and having bellydancing nude women as priestesses north of the wall. Because "why not? it is fantasy!"
Yes, because those are the only two options. A fantasy world that makes no sense whatsoever and one in which things work the way they work in our own world. You know, because magic and ice walls and zombies and fire gods that are real are totally part of our world. Anyway, all that is necessary for fantasy to work is for it to have its own internal logic. For instance, you invent a world in which it's established that genetics work differently than in our world and you lay out the rules, you can do whatever you want. Science fiction does it all the time but people don't lose their shit at it in the way they do when fantasy threatens to change things up. This is directly relevant to ASOIAF. Once GRRM was asked why people in Westeros seem to be much healthier than people in our own Middle Ages. He explained that genetics are different.
@@squamish4244 But that was not how the world worked and is not how the world works in most of it. Only in western countries is the population greatly mixed. Go to an African or Asian country and see how much diversity you find in skintones. And when we look back a few hundred years most of the west was completly white.
kungfucolin you're taking it way too personally man, you're replying to every post about it and posting ur own things you're working on a book about the thing for all we know
I swear this lady thinks everyone in the crowd is here to listen to her ask "deep, complex and insightful" questions, and that GRRM and the publisher guy are just stage props for her night of questions tour lol. God this is horrible
Great idea pinning George RR Martin's microphone to the edge of his fucking jacket so it can russle and muffle as he speaks while moving restlessly in his obviously uncomfortable chair.
They were trying to save time but they kept wasting more since GRRM would answer the second question then forget the first so it'd have to be asked again. This entire format was poorly thought out. Everybody in the audience was there for GRRM. Nobody there had heard of Tom Doherty and it's fine if Brown wanted to host him but don't have GRRM there as well because he's going to be the draw. That's like having the mayor of Hoboken, New Jersey for a Q&A then have Frank Sinatra there because he grew up in Hoboken. Nobody is going to want to listen to the mayor.
+congokong87 University is overrated and expensive. Unless one is studying something that will give one a job. And this is from a democratic socialist, feminist, and generally anti-rascist person. The thing is though: I'm also very anti-authoritarian, and all this from the left were they overanalyse everything and make an issue of everything. GRRM writes the way he does because describes a fantasy version of the medieval world.
congokong87 Thankyou. I love to study by my own though. Internet is a great tool for that. To learn about philosophy, religion, history, society, polititics and so on. Writing a fantasy novel. How bout you? :)
Anyone who is a true fan of Tolkien and Lewis, I have just read a story on par with their legendary work on Amazon kindle called Marisha by a Craig Nickelso from some author in North Carolina this novel changed my life anyone who is a fan of high fantasy I would suggest you read this book it will change your life forever.
Here is a great way to watch this video on mobile. Skip 10 seconds every second when the sales manager talks and see how many times you land on an awkward breath pause.
I wish they asked Tom about the decision of allowing his authors to write and publish huge multi volumn 1000 page books when other publishers would only allow 300-400 trilogys
It probably has to do with the genre(s) they are publishing. Sci-Fi and Fantasy novelists commonly write huge tomes and massive series so I'm sure the rules are a bit different than they are with, say, a publisher of literary fiction.
I have no idea what people in the comment section are raging about. I have seen quite a few GRRM interviews and this is one of those that has a lower amount of the most common recycled answers, which I appreciate.
4:10 I know that blonde woman would ask irrelevant questions about post-modern propaganda when they say she is a teacher of cultural criticism and interested in post-modernism.
God that blonde hair lady is simply the worst. 'Yeah...yeah... yeah'. Absolutely ruined the interview with poor questions and long winded ones, as well as pushing a feminist agenda. I feel sorry for GRRM.
This is stupid. Why would you ask George R.R. Martin about the state of publishing and you have the man who has been working in the industry for five to six decades?
I’m not denigrating academic/cultural criticism but you would think the interviewers would know by now that most fiction writers tend to feel kind of irritated by that line of questioning because it tries to reduce human story to argument. Despite Brecht, As a rule, drama and fiction that is first concerned with making a political/culture argument tends to kind of suck.
I used to be kinda jealous of kids who got into big league universities, but now that I'm older, I just find them kinda creepy and soul destroying. Anyone else? Lol
I’m sorry I’m bumping this 2 years later. I hope you get my response because I literally agreed with you in real time, even before finding your comment. This is why they stick to their own fields. This is why we as a society should understand how different all our fields of professions are. These jagoffs at Uppity University are such WEIRDOS. Maybe it’s because they score an IQ of 120, maybe that makes them horribly, grotesquely awkward. Lmao
Amazing interview so far. Tom and George are seriously cool older white dudes. How typical for the race card to be played. I didn't or couldn't fight the snow the day I could go to the photoshoot in Belfast, any native Moroccans or others living in Belfast then were welcome to take my place. George's practical answer and the practicalities was perfect, I'm glad it got a good laugh of agreement.
I wanted to hear a lot of the answers and conversations but this interviewer keeps cutting off. I know you have questions but if there are good stories happening, let them happen.
Someone might have recognized that the whole grey character thing is also an old staple of dark, low, depressive or some light fantasy, but usually on a less realistic or historical note.
Seven minutes in, George finally gets to speak. And the questions are just ridiculously long and overblown, like they're desperate to prove just how smart they are. Seriously shut up and realise that people are there to hear the guests talk, not you.
Well, that went well. The two of them need to learn to moderate (moderation!) before they're ever again let onto the stage with a guest. And it began all wrong with the seating set up--why are they forced to upstage themselves?? Super awkward, so often. Additionally, most questions were a perfect display of trying to say something while asking something. If those questions should be asked, please let them come from someone who can resemble decorum and know that shorter questions beget the best answers.
minute 47' George talked about the skin color of the people in Morocco. i have to say that I'm Moroccan and in Morocco our origin as the real inhabitants of the country is related to the early North African Berbers our grand grand fathers who had white skin as well as us (the real inhabitants). Those brown and dark skinned people were mostly brought to North Africa by the Arabs who came to our lands in the 7th and 8th centuries and brought the religion Islam and ruled our lands until this very day.
To be fair to George R. R. Martin on the "sexposition" critque, the sex acting in the background did serve a worldbuilding purpose in the story. 1. Sex in King's Landing is a tool. The women are learning to put on a performance for money. 2. Petyr Baelish is completely unphased by what they are doing. It shows us just how cold and calculated he is, separated from the carnal desires that drive most of the men in that time period. I think George was being too polite in conceding that this was merely "sexposition," and was just written in so the dummies in front of the TV wouldn't change the channel before another ad break.
This may come as a surprise to you but Anne Rice was never the only one to write vampire novels. I know. If anything, Anne Rice is a random pick. She is famous for writing them but so are many others. Bram Stoker wrote the original Dracula. So I don't know where you got the idea that when someone says "wrote vampire novels" they ought to be referring to Anne Rice.
Samuel Mork Bednarz are you stupid because I never said that when someone is talking about vampire novels they are referring to Anne Rice. I corrected the idea that stephen king wrote vampire novels when it was obvious that he was referring to the anne rice novels. idiot.
No, you falsely corrected him. Stephen king wrote Salem's Lot. Salem's Lot is a vampire novel. So he probably meant Stephen King. You just assumed he meant Anne Rice. I pointed out that its kind of ridiculous to just assume that he must have meant Anne Rice as if everyone must be referring to Anne Rice when they say "vampire novel." Maybe he just meant what he said. Because Stephen king wrote a vampire novel as well. Your correction was wrong and now you are insulting me because I burst your bubble. But sure. Why not. lol
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Dude: "Such a fan, way before a song of fire and ice"
George: "You need to take better care of your books"
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He should have answered: You mean a song of ICE and FIRE?.. clearly a great fan..
@@Lermoth some guy made a small, understandable mistake? Wow, what a fake fan.
This was the perfect sentence by GRRM for an event in a library
@@Lermoth 16:06 "the game of ice and fire" guess George is fake fan too
You can't take care of a book you bought as a prop for the interview.
They both needed their own individual interviews, honestly.
Yiuup
Especially Tom. I'm fascinated by that publishing history stuff.
@@ianmartinezcassmeyer I'll never understand bringing in two people like this, it's one thing if they are meant to speak to each other, and maybe have a moderator to keep them on a certain track depending on what the topics are meant to be. But this style of interview the person who is not the latest hot commodity gets the short end of the stick.
the blonde chick was kind of hostile but I love how george handled her
The actual interview starts at 5:30
Never allow this woman to ask any author a question again.
At least not this blonde
I bet she’s a professor of women’s studies or some such nonsense.
"Song of Fire and Ice"...?
George himself gave a better one - "A Game of Fire and Ice"
That dude didn't know what the fuck he was saying
You mean a Game of Ash and Snow
An Ice of fire and song
"As a writer , I honestly and proudly , without fear of violating the law and without the harmful guilty conscience , I can say out loud , I killed someone. "
-George R. R. Martin
"Como escritor, Honesta y orgullosamente, sin temor a violar la ley y sin el nefasto cargo de conciencia, puedo decir en voz alta, he matado a alguien."
-George R. R. Martin
Yes,he killed me,during I tried to read GOT...
@@sonyabelmontfarenheght1189 and he is killing me while I try to write a scientific work (I actually dont know the right word, but in german it would be "Wissenschaftspropedeutische arbeit") about the historical references of "A song of ice and fire" for school xD
"Sex is not Sexposition" Is probably the greatest Martin quote.
And no one heard it, people used it all through the rest of the show, and even saw some review talk say it for house of the dragon even though in comparsion HoTD was very tame in that regard and the sex scenes were always character driven.
Not that I'm complaining, I know people complain that people don't have sex in movies or tv anymore but I'm fine with the kiss before closing door trope. Gives you more time for actual story, since besides a few shows it was rare to see sex and then have the characters act like normal people afterwards. After such a release feeling safe to be emotionally vulnerable and talk about the things that matter to them. Which gave you greater insight into who they were as people because it was treated as real sex and not sexposition.
It's also weird that HBO had an entire show revolved around sexposition where a huge part of the point of the show was to talk about and show sex, but that was considered positive by the same people who then later complained about GoT.
is anyone else annoyed by the interviewer constantly saying "ya"?
Yaah iam
she teaches courses in film and television studies, gender and sexuality studies, and cultural and critical theory
@@TheCoffeeNut711 You need Jesus.
No
@@GeraltOfArabia Actually, no one needs Jesus. What we *do* need is religion to not be a thing.
When she mentions the "phallic constructions of power" GRRM face is like, oyyyy.
only phallic obsessed popele talk like that
The funny thing is that 5 or six years ago he would have been the one to set up that argument, but with current usage of the term has kinda taken the impact out of it, its now problematic and controversial.
The female interviewer was really, really bad. 7-minute-long questions from her, then has the audience ask 2 at a time. Poor formatting.
She didn't have an agenda at all did she? Mightve not looked like such a jaerkoff if she read the books not just the critical reviews from her fellow ultra progressive teammates
44:05 "can/you can tell I'm a professor" No actually I can't, since you are unable to put together a proper question and are confusing the book and the show. Embarrassing.
A lot of professors are not quite as articulate and eloquent as their extensive educations might suggest. They don't teach speech and rhetoric in most schools anymore.
@@ianmartinezcassmeyer Evidently neither do they teach how to do any ounce of research and to base all of your ideas on supposition rather than, you know, EDUCATION.
Female Interviewer: *Asks question*
George: well that’s actually a long question let me try to
Lady: mhm
George: uhm let me try to dissect that so for starters
Lady: yep
George : my career as as a writer begins with my
Lady: mhm
George: 🙄
The woman does not phrase her question well.
Who would even think of that "two questions a time"?! Why?
Control
This has to be the worst GRRM interview I have seen. It has some good moments, sure, but the interviewers did not execute it well, especially that blonde short-haired woman. She tries to cram so much into all of her overly-complicated questions, then awkwardly tries to take the conversation in the half-baked direction of sexism/racism/other -isms. She had the chance to interview one of the greatest writers of our time, and she acted like a squawking turkey on that stage.
911assassinate You need to do some serious reflecting upon the amount of immature hatred you just typed.
***** Agreed. I literally said "Let the man talk damnit" around 30:20 when she kept interrupting him over and over and over when he was in the middle of a great story, just so she could shoehorn in another question.
911assassinate Wow.. I hope everything is ok in your life. Don't be scared to ask for help.
+Arrow What if they see injecting progressive values into every facet of culture and relentlessly pushing a narrative as their job?
+Esper the Bard It's a case of the emperor not having any clothes on. She needs to have this jargon and her ideological complication of basic stuff because what she does is essentially useless. What Gender studies boils down to is a cargo cult where people immitate science and deep analysis. If she would just straight talk there would be little difference between her and any other average person, if you set aside her ideology.
Can listen to GRRM all day. makes up for this poorly set up event
@It's Alright lmao true, but its obvious some have higher quality and thought in the questions they ask or how they approach the way they carry on a conversation with George, the best for me are the ones that have a healthy mix of seriousness and joking behavior. Its super frustrating seeing George go into a somewhat deep subject or anything complex at all and the interviewer makes a really dumb joke or remark that's really out of place; awkwardly spoken out of turn. Or when he makes a really clever joke or witty statement and it completely goes over the interviewers head. But when you get the right person for the job, it's some if the best talk and conversation. Some people just wanna see cool shit like this hit its full potential you know?
@@thesicoplayer_2663 Interviewing is a skill the problem is you have those That are Late night hosts or like a Hardwick who puts on a certain persona. Then you have those who are just themselves like a James Lipton or Larry King, two completely different styles the best gold standard old media had to offer. Lipton got people to talk about things in the 90s early 2000s that was so taboo. And then you have people who don't feel like themselves is good enough, and that might be true, so they put on this sort of air of being a friendly, if they can manage funny, tv host and a deep digging journalist. Not understanding that those two modes clash in this setting. It's jarring and feels forced.
I wish they had been able to focus just a bit more on Tom Doherty, he has been extremely influential in a behind-the-scenes manner of bringing Fantasy Lit to the point it has arrived at. The authors are the boots on the ground, but it's people like Tom who make it possible. Also, Tor is one of the few publishers that still accepts unsolicited material from aspiring writers, which is both notable and wonderful.
+Matthew Showers Wish we had someone like him here in Swede. Here the big publishers don't consider fantasy and sci-fi real litterature.
Luckely though smaller publishers happily publish those genres. I'm an aspiring swedish fantasy writer so.
+Sir Butthurt love the username! Really? Sweden doesn't have an equivalent? have you considered submitting to the US or UK?
Matthew Showers It is one of my back up plans. Though that would be though too since my book is really swedish. You know with the swedish crime, it's similar here even though my novel is set in a fantasy world. The country of my main character is based on medieval Sweden kind of.
Um, no. Fantasy is growing a lot in Sweden though. There's a series called the Circle in english which has become a bestseller around the world.
Then there's Erik Granström, who's quite big in Sweden as an author but not translated to any other language yet.
Fantasy is growing a lot in Sweden thanksfully, but it will probably be around at least 5 years untill it goes mainstream.
+Sir Butthurt are you on Twitter?
Matthew Showers Yeah. Marcus Appelberg.
Someone tell the woman to stop saying "yea" and trying to interrupt all the time
she was sort of a douche bucket at times, wasn't she?
George RR Martin got SO bored SO quickly that If you pause it at 6:44 you can see him thinking "I'm going to add you as a character in my new book..... then i'm going to kill you.". I'd wager it would involve Ramsay somehow.
CorBlimeyGuv 😂😂😂😂😂😂
SHAME
I'd resurrect Ramsey and Joffrey and have them both spend some time with her character in a dungeon.
Razeo Ramsay is not dead in the books
Are Rorge and Biter still tag teaming lucky maidens, and eating live septa teats, Know Arya crossed Rorge off her list in the show but not sure in the book, he could give them some "redemption" in my book by letting them sort this b out, donno if she's that unfamiliar with his books or is just trying to squeeze them to her fucked up frame and criticism
Who the hell put that mic on the inside of his jacket so it rubs against his shirt. One job!
Yees
I work in televison... And every time they put him in closeup all i see is that mike
George once mentioned that one of his inspirations was the tv series I, Claudius. I watched the series and OMG I can see tons of ways in which it influenced him. It's amazing if you think of a bored George watching 12 hours of that with his imagination wandering off on creative tangents. I'm pretty sure Joffrey is inspired by Caligula in the series. Olivia certainly gave Cersei some life. I don't see any copying exactly--just starting points on which his wild imagination got started on the epic ideas for A Story of Ice and Fire.... ;D
What is this series like? I've never heard of it
Q&A is always a waste of time. Same dumb questions every time he appears. Nobody asks anything worthwhile and Tom was totally ignored even though he might offer great insights into publishing and the phenomenon of what makes these epic series' work or not. Leave interviewing to people who know how to do it.
Walter Liddy I like how GRRM always tries to include the others on the panel when this happens, have noticed it in a number of videos of him i've been listening to these last few days.
The work that Tom has done with his writers is phenomenal. Orson Scott Card thanks him many times through the Ender's series.
He also points out how the Tor community helps him review his books and point out flaws and weak points.
I am wondering if this is a common process in the community. I know they have editors that work with the authors and review, but it seems to go much deeper at Tor.
The editor's role in producing such long series is something I would have loved to hear more about.
We should make a list of the questions and answers that appear in every GRRM interview and turn it into a drinking game.
One thing I know that will always pop up is William Faulkner's quote about the human heart in conflict with itself. I've heard that in every god damn interview. You'd think people would watch these interviews and come up with different questions instead or repeating the same generic ones.
Also the Armageddon rag opening his door to Hollywood, i heard the story in every other interview at this point
@@aboubacrinecisse3455 It's the Stan Lee model of assuming there is always someone's first time in the audience, you just hear it more because previously these things were not recorded. When you get asked the same questions over and over you will end up developing a stock answer story, and that doesn't just go for people who become celebrities.
Have you ever broken a bone in your body and had to wear a cast? If so do you remember having to tell the story of how it happened over and over when people asked? It's the same principle just different circumstance and topic. I agree the worst thing I know is people who repeat themselves over and over and has almost nothing new to say, but I always take the questions they are asked into consideration. You would quickly start to become distrustful if he had told different stories about how he ended up in Hollywood or how he came up with GoT.
And you can tell that is one of the things that he's enjoyed about when talking about the World of Ice and Fire, Fire and Blood or House of the Dragon. Less stock answers and less speaking engagement overall.
I loved that he loves his characters, and that the Red Wedding was the hardest thing he'd ever written.
I get why they tried to do the question format by asking two questions at once, but it honestly made everything longer and we probably missed out a bunch of questions because of it. I mean they double back every time when they forget the other question, so might as well ask them one at a time lol
@@scottystcloud7086 That is why you don't do this sort of thing, most people probably didn't know who he was.
Georges face when he sees that book in tatters...
Alan Landry
Yeah, he look insulted.
"You need to take better care of your books." I laughed so damn hard.
6:12
Seeing that I think *_I_* need to take better care of *_my_* books.
It's Alright
Right? Lol he’s a multi millionaire. His fat arse couldn’t give a damn. I bet he didn’t even care when that jagoff said FIRE AND ICE. 😂
Fevre Dream was published in 1982, Salem's Lot in 1975. Just to clear up what that one guy said in the intro. Both great authors.
George is so easy to listen to on and on. i never would have thought that i would be angry with producers . They should have given him more respect to the guy who actually knows what is what.
I saw I a clip of this interview of George RR Martin answering some question and I though "On Brown? In one, if not THE MOST politically correct, social justice dominated universities? This should be... interesting". So I'm here just for the morbid curiosity. Let's see...
U were not wrong
This video is like serving two different great meals at the same time but they don't necessarily complement each other.
Here we go, GRRM has to explain himself because he dared to write about slavery and women being used as lesser beings and sexual objects in work of fiction in a medieval setting. Because that's the thematics that have to be talked about in relation to EVERYTHING today - or some people think. Let the -isms fly!
piggy201 Oh, and don't forget to have a shot on ethnically looking people when you're talking about that
+piggy201 Even as a feminist and generally progressive leftie this drives me nuts. But then again I'm an anti-authritarian leftist.
+piggy201
Yeah, how dare he describe history in a realistic fashion. You'd think writing about slavery would shed light on its horrible nature, hence actually making an argument about whether it is a necessary evil or if it should never be condoned.
Host was terrible! Started filming before anyone had really sat down. Low-rent production... cool guests though!
I loved listening to the guests that were willing to give us their time. Very, very good!
Tom's interview part is actually much more interesting than George's part, problem is it's not easy to follow. I would have George answering Tom's interview, and it would be 9000 times more fascinating.
You can see Martin's annoyance whenever she brings up pointless social justice questions that attack the content of his books. XD
Yea. "Black people in africa? RACISM!" basicly. (well not really, it only works like that if it is majority white in a historicly white country)
I dont get why SJW's dont read up on history before they start screaming about racism and what not.
Because it's FANTASY. "Historically white!" is not a justification these days. It's an excuse for lazy writing when you can't think up a world that isn't just medieval Europe with different names.
Fantasy writers have a responsibility to the world that they write in. This is the 21st Century, fantasy has to evolve with the times or it's of no use to anyone. Just like how George included way more female characters than earlier fantasy authors because of the changing norms of his time and the influence of - gasp! - social justice movements.
@@squamish4244 I rather see a "real" fantasy world than a SJW version that makes no sense what so ever. Itis basicly as immersive as puting palmtrees up at the Wall and having bellydancing nude women as priestesses north of the wall. Because "why not? it is fantasy!"
Yes, because those are the only two options. A fantasy world that makes no sense whatsoever and one in which things work the way they work in our own world. You know, because magic and ice walls and zombies and fire gods that are real are totally part of our world.
Anyway, all that is necessary for fantasy to work is for it to have its own internal logic. For instance, you invent a world in which it's established that genetics work differently than in our world and you lay out the rules, you can do whatever you want. Science fiction does it all the time but people don't lose their shit at it in the way they do when fantasy threatens to change things up.
This is directly relevant to ASOIAF. Once GRRM was asked why people in Westeros seem to be much healthier than people in our own Middle Ages. He explained that genetics are different.
@@squamish4244 But that was not how the world worked and is not how the world works in most of it. Only in western countries is the population greatly mixed. Go to an African or Asian country and see how much diversity you find in skintones. And when we look back a few hundred years most of the west was completly white.
The whole "two questions at once" is the worst shit I have ever seen. Seriously a terrible terrible idea.
kungfucolin But you also got to see the top of GRRM's head! That's a plus, right?
kungfucolin you're taking it way too personally man, you're replying to every post about it and posting ur own things you're working on a book about the thing for all we know
hamzh bust Why would you think I'm writing a book? lol.
I swear this lady thinks everyone in the crowd is here to listen to her ask "deep, complex and insightful" questions, and that GRRM and the publisher guy are just stage props for her night of questions tour lol. God this is horrible
Great idea pinning George RR Martin's microphone to the edge of his fucking jacket so it can russle and muffle as he speaks while moving restlessly in his obviously uncomfortable chair.
16:07 game of ice and fire xD
Why the fuck would you take two questions at a time? Come on....
They were trying to save time but they kept wasting more since GRRM would answer the second question then forget the first so it'd have to be asked again. This entire format was poorly thought out. Everybody in the audience was there for GRRM. Nobody there had heard of Tom Doherty and it's fine if Brown wanted to host him but don't have GRRM there as well because he's going to be the draw. That's like having the mayor of Hoboken, New Jersey for a Q&A then have Frank Sinatra there because he grew up in Hoboken. Nobody is going to want to listen to the mayor.
Agreed, one question at the time, and have followups to those questions. But I think George and Tom handled it in a excellent way
imho it was just a way of dehumanising the students.
+congokong87 University is overrated and expensive. Unless one is studying something that will give one a job.
And this is from a democratic socialist, feminist, and generally anti-rascist person.
The thing is though: I'm also very anti-authoritarian, and all this from the left were they overanalyse everything and make an issue of everything.
GRRM writes the way he does because describes a fantasy version of the medieval world.
congokong87 Thankyou. I love to study by my own though. Internet is a great tool for that. To learn about philosophy, religion, history, society, polititics and so on. Writing a fantasy novel.
How bout you? :)
This was my first interview then I seen of R.R. so to me this was interesting. It'll also serve as a barometer for future interviews of him.
Re. George: I feel like the interviewers were more interested in talking about the show than his actual books
25:02 jezus that question is 2 minutes long, learn to ask a proper question
ikr I swear she just wanted the audience to notice what her observations and thoughts were and basically just ended it with: by the way...( ? )
I really felt sorry for George R. R. Martin for the way they badgered him and interruptions. Intentionally trying to cast him in a bad light.
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Here is a great way to watch this video on mobile.
Skip 10 seconds every second when the sales manager talks and see how many times you land on an awkward breath pause.
George plz finish asoiaf plz as I fan of the books since 03 I'm heartbroken at the mess of your masterpiece Dumb&Dumber have made 😪
Never gonna happen
During the Q&A you can sense that GRRM is thinking get me the f#&% out of here.
With no visual context. Audio only without intros. I could have guessed that this was done at Brown University.
I think he should try using social media to introduce new authors and maybe send out some sample chapters for kindle and audio
I wish they asked Tom about the decision of allowing his authors to write and publish huge multi volumn 1000 page books when other publishers would only allow 300-400 trilogys
It probably has to do with the genre(s) they are publishing. Sci-Fi and Fantasy novelists commonly write huge tomes and massive series so I'm sure the rules are a bit different than they are with, say, a publisher of literary fiction.
***** It was not common until Tor allowed Robert Jordan to start the trend.
MegaMoose1989 Ah ok. I didn't really know that. Fantasy writers tend to be very wordy it seems lol I'm not complaining though. I love big books!
I drank that beer, and let me tell you, it tastes good! Really good dark beer.
I have no idea what people in the comment section are raging about. I have seen quite a few GRRM interviews and this is one of those that has a lower amount of the most common recycled answers, which I appreciate.
4:10 I know that blonde woman would ask irrelevant questions about post-modern propaganda when they say she is a teacher of cultural criticism and interested in post-modernism.
Whats the point of 2 questions at once when they just have to repeat one of them over? Not smrt. I mean smart.
U stupid
God that blonde hair lady is simply the worst. 'Yeah...yeah... yeah'. Absolutely ruined the interview with poor questions and long winded ones, as well as pushing a feminist agenda. I feel sorry for GRRM.
Does Brown only employ lesbian landwhale feminazis? The fuck
Just about every university in the United States is becoming filled with bitches like that.
George read the Moby Dick comic book before the novel. He said this in another interview.
My bad...I kept getting distracted by the microphone noise.
I feel bad for the Tor books guy, the crowd seems to doze off every time he speaks, they light up when Martin speaks.
Wait he says DothrakAI, rather than Dothrakee! Never knew this.
This is stupid. Why would you ask George R.R. Martin about the state of publishing and you have the man who has been working in the industry for five to six decades?
Wished the lady wouldn’t have interrupted the guys story
Now we’ll never know the full story
THE MICS AND THE BAD FRAMING OF QUESTIONS. REEEEEEEEE.
old guy in the blue shirt send me to sleep every time he starts talking.....
Academics love to hear themselves talk
I’m not denigrating academic/cultural criticism but you would think the interviewers would know by now that most fiction writers tend to feel kind of irritated by that line of questioning because it tries to reduce human story to argument. Despite Brecht, As a rule, drama and fiction that is first concerned with making a political/culture argument tends to kind of suck.
Two questions at once is such a terrible idea...
Interviewer: Was this an accident?
Georges: No.
Interviewer: Aight, so, Tom, you know what I think was an accident AS WELL...?
Georges:...
I used to be kinda jealous of kids who got into big league universities, but now that I'm older, I just find them kinda creepy and soul destroying. Anyone else? Lol
I’m sorry I’m bumping this 2 years later. I hope you get my response because I literally agreed with you in real time, even before finding your comment.
This is why they stick to their own fields. This is why we as a society should understand how different all our fields of professions are. These jagoffs at Uppity University are such WEIRDOS.
Maybe it’s because they score an IQ of 120, maybe that makes them horribly, grotesquely awkward. Lmao
Yes. Very much so.
Amazing interview so far. Tom and George are seriously cool older white dudes. How typical for the race card to be played. I didn't or couldn't fight the snow the day I could go to the photoshoot in Belfast, any native Moroccans or others living in Belfast then were welcome to take my place. George's practical answer and the practicalities was perfect, I'm glad it got a good laugh of agreement.
01:25:02 I'm sorry, George! XD
But you are the most interesting one in this interview. ;)
An Ice and Fire of Song.
I wanted to hear a lot of the answers and conversations but this interviewer keeps cutting off. I know you have questions but if there are good stories happening, let them happen.
47:13. The student on the right would love Game of Thrones for a good nap... 🤣🤣🤣
Someone might have recognized that the whole grey character thing is also an old staple of dark, low, depressive or some light fantasy, but usually on a less realistic or historical note.
Seven minutes in, George finally gets to speak. And the questions are just ridiculously long and overblown, like they're desperate to prove just how smart they are. Seriously shut up and realise that people are there to hear the guests talk, not you.
I must admit, I am baffled by the decision to have two questions asked before answering.
I love GRRM response to the SJM question
Well, that went well. The two of them need to learn to moderate (moderation!) before they're ever again let onto the stage with a guest. And it began all wrong with the seating set up--why are they forced to upstage themselves?? Super awkward, so often. Additionally, most questions were a perfect display of trying to say something while asking something. If those questions should be asked, please let them come from someone who can resemble decorum and know that shorter questions beget the best answers.
minute 47' George talked about the skin color of the people in Morocco. i have to say that I'm Moroccan and in Morocco our origin as the real inhabitants of the country is related to the early North African Berbers our grand grand fathers who had white skin as well as us (the real inhabitants). Those brown and dark skinned people were mostly brought to North Africa by the Arabs who came to our lands in the 7th and 8th centuries and brought the religion Islam and ruled our lands until this very day.
When she says "phallic constructions of power" you just know she is completely insane.
These questions, man... Wokeness is a mind poison.
Anyone else cringe when the interviewer says "A song of FIRE AND ICE" UUuuuugh... Ice and fire. Ice and fire. ICE....then... FIRE....
Why do they ask 2 questions at once? Let's make it as confusing as fuck and then make them repeat it.
To be fair to George R. R. Martin on the "sexposition" critque, the sex acting in the background did serve a worldbuilding purpose in the story.
1. Sex in King's Landing is a tool. The women are learning to put on a performance for money.
2. Petyr Baelish is completely unphased by what they are doing. It shows us just how cold and calculated he is, separated from the carnal desires that drive most of the men in that time period.
I think George was being too polite in conceding that this was merely "sexposition," and was just written in so the dummies in front of the TV wouldn't change the channel before another ad break.
you can skip the first 7 min...
The best way to watch this is in 1.5x speed.
This whole thing is one giant fuckup.
Gewok lol
Lynne Joyrich was so aggravating. Kept cutting off answers to 'plug' her loaded rambling questions.
That blonde chick was aggressive
Interviewer is absolutely awful. Terrible. The woman
It's a Song of Ice and Fire, not the other way around. Also, Anne Rice wrote vampire novels, not Stephen King.
He's talking about Salems lot.
This may come as a surprise to you but Anne Rice was never the only one to write vampire novels. I know. If anything, Anne Rice is a random pick. She is famous for writing them but so are many others. Bram Stoker wrote the original Dracula. So I don't know where you got the idea that when someone says "wrote vampire novels" they ought to be referring to Anne Rice.
Samuel Mork Bednarz are you stupid because I never said that when someone is talking about vampire novels they are referring to Anne Rice. I corrected the idea that stephen king wrote vampire novels when it was obvious that he was referring to the anne rice novels. idiot.
No, you falsely corrected him. Stephen king wrote Salem's Lot. Salem's Lot is a vampire novel. So he probably meant Stephen King. You just assumed he meant Anne Rice. I pointed out that its kind of ridiculous to just assume that he must have meant Anne Rice as if everyone must be referring to Anne Rice when they say "vampire novel." Maybe he just meant what he said. Because Stephen king wrote a vampire novel as well. Your correction was wrong and now you are insulting me because I burst your bubble. But sure. Why not. lol
Samuel Mork Bednarz Nice try but you're still wrong. Run along now...
Justice League dosen't fight within eachother.. Riiiiiiiiight
He didn't say "doesn't," he said "didn't." And, in the time frame he was referencing, they didn't. :)
the other guy kinda looks like Tolkien lol
1:03:54 this guy
As song of ice and fire****
Goddamn this is hard to watch.
the interviewer sounds like lord baelish doesnt he?
Start at 7.00, the beginning is tedious.