I agree. I just don't want him to pass away. I am perfectly fine waiting another 10 years for him to finish the books, but if he passes away before, I will be so sad.
@@gleefulincent3115 If you really think it was rushed then you, like so many, weren't paying attention to the earlier seasons and expected things to be spelled out to you like ABCDE. Season 8 was stellar! Period. That's why it won Best Drama Series tht year.
good start to interview, then the interviewer kind of falls of the horse there midway through. But still George carries it through giving great speeches and insight to storytelling. Some great things he says. Clever man. He surely knows his craft.
Great interviewer, doesn't interrupt, asks thoughtful, concise and less obvious questions, and no "when's the next book coming" which I'm sure George appreciated as well.
He probably feels quite a bit of pressure to hit a home run as far as the ending is concerned. If it doesn't satisfy, people will bitch about it for the rest of his life and beyond.
He won't finish it. He has stated before he does not like to work on things when everyone knows the ending. He likes wishing in new things. He's had decades to finish this off and has no desire to. The TV show is the closest we will get at closure. Martin is old, over wight, unhealthy.....will be lucky to see 10 more years, and I'll be shocked if he finishes it
check out the original cover arts for the books by Stephen Youll, way back in the day. I actually found a copy of a Game of Thrones paperback with the cover art of Jon and Ghost with Winterfell in the background at a thrift store and purchased it for 99 cents!
To be fair to George and his books, he never actually depicts rape in ASoIaF. The show does. The books don't. I saw a story about how someone did a word search of the books and came up with numerous instances of the word "rape", but I've read the books several times, and what word actually comes up constantly is "grapes" 😂
Well in the books it is pretty clear Tywin had a really messed up relationship when it comes to sex and women, what he did to Tysha and Tyrion after finding out they had married. What he did to his father mistress after he died, with there being hints that he actually did the deed first since he wouldn't want to be the last like Tyrion was forced to be with Tysha. A strong possibility that he ordered the Mountain to do exactly what Oberyn accused him of doing to his sister and her children. If not directly ordering knowing what he would do since he later sends out the Mountain right before the war of the 5 kings and even during, to do those kinds of things after burning down the villages who were siding with the North. Not to mention how Tywin created his own passage way that added to those that were already there so the tower of a and would have a direct line to the brothels, while claiming to hating men of his and his family's stations to have sex with people below their station. I don't think it's as extreme as his critics are claiming, not that the acts are not extreme, I'm talking about the critics who still used words like sexposition in the first episode of House of the Dragon because of the scene where Daemon isn't able to keep it up, and then later when he celebrates the heir for a day. The scene of Littlefinger giving his rather important backstory to understand why he is the way he is, but D&D deciding that they needed to have two have sex while he was talking. That scene didn't make sense to me since Littlefinger is a man who keeps his motivations very close to his chest. So talking about it so openly while two women practice techniques to give each other better and louder orgasms for his customers to get more turned on seemed out of place. But the argument that people who just watched the show say, since we have already seen other people go through grape having Sansa going through it was going too far and abusing the audience. Not to minimize the living hell that her marriage to Ramsay was, if she hadn't gotten away and gotten revenge when she did, she would have been driven insane. But Theon was mutilated and driven insane by Ramsay, Theon wasn't a boyscout and when he turned on the Starks it would have been justified for Robb to remove his head if the Boltons were not planning to use Theon as a pawn they could tuck away from later. Horrible things happens to all kinds of people and a lot of people are killed that didn't deserve to die. But 99.9% of people if given the choice between getting a Ned Stark or Missandei treatment or going through what Theon did, even if Theon had lived through the show, something I felt he should have. His death was pointless and a full life would have been a special punishment on it's own given he was never the same physically and certainly not mentally. Pretty sure they would not choose the latter.
@@Petey0707 Both can be true at the same time, yes it was a common practice, take her drunken scene in season 2 during the battle of blackwater when she explains to Sansa what they are in for if they lose. Cersei is ready to not just kill herself and her son but had a guard ready to kill all the women in the room because she knew what would be done to them. It's actually one of the few considerate things Cersei does through the entire series. Yet at the same time, majority of the men fighting on either side of that battle don't actually have a choice in the matter. Even if they were just not so used to listening to those that were born above them and had the capacity to think why are we attacking this city, or in the case of the Lannister army's campagin of burning down villages and doing unspeakable things to the lowborn, men and women alike. No one is going to refuse Tywin and the Mountain's orders at best they could hope to be able to kill themselves quickly for a painless death if they had thought about what they were doing as not normal. And yes men, and certainly not young boys were excempted, it's kind of f**ked up that we still use the word pegging as a consensual sexual act, when you find out where that word comes from. Ships would have sizeable pegs placed and force young boys sit on them to make it more comfortable for the other men to, in youtube 2022 censor speak gain entry, when they had been too long at sea without women.
It's curious that being Mr. Martin an evaded conscript of Vietnam War failed to use as an example of raping in war the endless cases of the US soldiers there, but did provide examples of "Bosnian camps years ago", an example of Europe can't be preferred over an example of America.
I think the answer is simple, if it had been brought up he would have talked about it. But he's and old man who is able to have certain enjoyments in life and at the same time having to deal with critics from both sides. Why stirr up the pot if he didn't have to, also as far as we know while a soldiers penis hasn't been involved in the act. The US as done sexual crimes in Gitmo including sticking up electrical rods, forget about smelling the hear of burnt skin and hair from when frying their testicles with jumpe cables. Burnt sperm coming out of you because the rod and the electricity hitting the prostate. I think they would have preferred being treated as peg boys by the soldiers.
I was wondering why someone who lacks a basic understanding of history is questioning a man who has made living studying history. Off the top of my head I can name several great female leaders Joan of Arc, Boudicca and cleopatra. All three types are depicted in GOT and all three were real and are from the middle ages history.
Boudicca and cleopatra were living in middle ages? Are you sure about that? (But yeah i agree on point that There were some femels in power but still it was pretty rere but whatever)
@@kubazachara6392 In the middle ages no, but clearly Danny is a Cleopatra archetype to some extent. No doubt like he says they are the exception, but we've found female bodies from various cultures all over the world through various stages in history like Vikings. With them having been given a warriors funeral. And there is also not any real doubt that through history while the men in power is the one who gets written about and the title of Ruler of the society. There have been Olenna's wether they were the grandmother, mother or even daughter who had a deep understanding of politics. So while they won't get a mention even in a position such as Tywin for being hand, they effectively were the people ruling in secret. Not to mention how there have been women who were born into nothing, managed to gain various positions by starting out as mistresses. Some like Emporer Commodus who was a pretty stupid man who ended up putting Rome in an already more difficult position than it already was by spending money and selling food they couldn't afford to be without in the long run. Ended up getting killed because his mistress discovered in a note he had just laying around, that she along with two others were going to get publicly killed as punishment for things that he had done himself but he needed a scapegoat. After which her station was considerably altered for the better.
Aliexei Yeah indeed, men have been earning things through going to war, while women have mostly been by-standers who got all the collateral damage without obtaining anything from it. I hardly see how stating that women being treated badly during war is a gynoCentric statement, it's the truth, it's not an opinion.
Roxane a Professional soldiers earn money by war, as well as war criminals. But they are the minority. Men die at war. Women are the by-standards, i agree with you there.
He has to learn how to write books from Stephen King. Martin is the lazy ass. Gosh...I so admire Stephen King for his discipline and hard-working aspects of his personality
You don't rush greatness
PhxtoNash thank you! Agreed!
I agree. I just don't want him to pass away. I am perfectly fine waiting another 10 years for him to finish the books, but if he passes away before, I will be so sad.
This is more relevant then ever after season 8.
@@gleefulincent3115 If you really think it was rushed then you, like so many, weren't paying attention to the earlier seasons and expected things to be spelled out to you like ABCDE. Season 8 was stellar! Period. That's why it won Best Drama Series tht year.
@@plisskeneticFailed bait or terrible opinion?
a great man
good start to interview, then the interviewer kind of falls of the horse there midway through. But still George carries it through giving great speeches and insight to storytelling. Some great things he says. Clever man. He surely knows his craft.
I like his hat.
Love him
Great interviewer, doesn't interrupt, asks thoughtful, concise and less obvious questions, and no "when's the next book coming" which I'm sure George appreciated as well.
awesome man, awesome interview!
Great interview, good to see this was in Santa Fe and not in Dubai, keep writing George. Cliffhangers are killing me.
I like the interviewer. She knows what she is talking about.
Krydda except that she thought GRRM was taking liberties by creating characters like Arya and Brienne, which was simply not true.
L take
Good interview for some parts, I think.
He probably feels quite a bit of pressure to hit a home run as far as the ending is concerned. If it doesn't satisfy, people will bitch about it for the rest of his life and beyond.
chaosdecides Yeah. He's commented on it a few times, and honestly I can't blame him.
He won't finish it. He has stated before he does not like to work on things when everyone knows the ending. He likes wishing in new things. He's had decades to finish this off and has no desire to. The TV show is the closest we will get at closure. Martin is old, over wight, unhealthy.....will be lucky to see 10 more years, and I'll be shocked if he finishes it
interviewer catches up prety well again.
only thing could use improving is the books cover design
check out the original cover arts for the books by Stephen Youll, way back in the day. I actually found a copy of a Game of Thrones paperback with the cover art of Jon and Ghost with Winterfell in the background at a thrift store and purchased it for 99 cents!
To be fair to George and his books, he never actually depicts rape in ASoIaF. The show does. The books don't.
I saw a story about how someone did a word search of the books and came up with numerous instances of the word "rape", but I've read the books several times, and what word actually comes up constantly is "grapes" 😂
Well in the books it is pretty clear Tywin had a really messed up relationship when it comes to sex and women, what he did to Tysha and Tyrion after finding out they had married. What he did to his father mistress after he died, with there being hints that he actually did the deed first since he wouldn't want to be the last like Tyrion was forced to be with Tysha. A strong possibility that he ordered the Mountain to do exactly what Oberyn accused him of doing to his sister and her children. If not directly ordering knowing what he would do since he later sends out the Mountain right before the war of the 5 kings and even during, to do those kinds of things after burning down the villages who were siding with the North. Not to mention how Tywin created his own passage way that added to those that were already there so the tower of a and would have a direct line to the brothels, while claiming to hating men of his and his family's stations to have sex with people below their station.
I don't think it's as extreme as his critics are claiming, not that the acts are not extreme, I'm talking about the critics who still used words like sexposition in the first episode of House of the Dragon because of the scene where Daemon isn't able to keep it up, and then later when he celebrates the heir for a day. The scene of Littlefinger giving his rather important backstory to understand why he is the way he is, but D&D deciding that they needed to have two have sex while he was talking. That scene didn't make sense to me since Littlefinger is a man who keeps his motivations very close to his chest. So talking about it so openly while two women practice techniques to give each other better and louder orgasms for his customers to get more turned on seemed out of place.
But the argument that people who just watched the show say, since we have already seen other people go through grape having Sansa going through it was going too far and abusing the audience. Not to minimize the living hell that her marriage to Ramsay was, if she hadn't gotten away and gotten revenge when she did, she would have been driven insane. But Theon was mutilated and driven insane by Ramsay, Theon wasn't a boyscout and when he turned on the Starks it would have been justified for Robb to remove his head if the Boltons were not planning to use Theon as a pawn they could tuck away from later. Horrible things happens to all kinds of people and a lot of people are killed that didn't deserve to die. But 99.9% of people if given the choice between getting a Ned Stark or Missandei treatment or going through what Theon did, even if Theon had lived through the show, something I felt he should have. His death was pointless and a full life would have been a special punishment on it's own given he was never the same physically and certainly not mentally. Pretty sure they would not choose the latter.
22:20 no thanks to D&D
"in war women were always treated very badly"
unlike the men, who were forced to fight and die and were probably not even that exempt from rape.
ok incel
@@Petey0707 Both can be true at the same time, yes it was a common practice, take her drunken scene in season 2 during the battle of blackwater when she explains to Sansa what they are in for if they lose. Cersei is ready to not just kill herself and her son but had a guard ready to kill all the women in the room because she knew what would be done to them. It's actually one of the few considerate things Cersei does through the entire series.
Yet at the same time, majority of the men fighting on either side of that battle don't actually have a choice in the matter. Even if they were just not so used to listening to those that were born above them and had the capacity to think why are we attacking this city, or in the case of the Lannister army's campagin of burning down villages and doing unspeakable things to the lowborn, men and women alike. No one is going to refuse Tywin and the Mountain's orders at best they could hope to be able to kill themselves quickly for a painless death if they had thought about what they were doing as not normal.
And yes men, and certainly not young boys were excempted, it's kind of f**ked up that we still use the word pegging as a consensual sexual act, when you find out where that word comes from. Ships would have sizeable pegs placed and force young boys sit on them to make it more comfortable for the other men to, in youtube 2022 censor speak gain entry, when they had been too long at sea without women.
@@Petey0707 cringe shitlib
Interviewers hair is weird.
Props to George's beard.
1991, 5 books in 28 years... not bad lol
Interviewer is good at interviewing, but her worldview needs some adjusting imo lol
to each their own
Abdel Karim And because of that saying now we have people thinking they're helicopters.
@@abdelkarim1486 she is literally being irrational it's not an opinion that her way of thinking lacks logical foundation
So he really doesn't care that we've been waiting for the next book for eight years already
It's curious that being Mr. Martin an evaded conscript of Vietnam War failed to use as an example of raping in war the endless cases of the US soldiers there, but did provide examples of "Bosnian camps years ago", an example of Europe can't be preferred over an example of America.
I think the answer is simple, if it had been brought up he would have talked about it. But he's and old man who is able to have certain enjoyments in life and at the same time having to deal with critics from both sides. Why stirr up the pot if he didn't have to, also as far as we know while a soldiers penis hasn't been involved in the act. The US as done sexual crimes in Gitmo including sticking up electrical rods, forget about smelling the hear of burnt skin and hair from when frying their testicles with jumpe cables. Burnt sperm coming out of you because the rod and the electricity hitting the prostate. I think they would have preferred being treated as peg boys by the soldiers.
I was wondering why someone who lacks a basic understanding of history is questioning a man who has made living studying history. Off the top of my head I can name several great female leaders Joan of Arc, Boudicca and cleopatra. All three types are depicted in GOT and all three were real and are from the middle ages history.
Boudicca and cleopatra were living in middle ages? Are you sure about that? (But yeah i agree on point that There were some femels in power but still it was pretty rere but whatever)
@@kubazachara6392 In the middle ages no, but clearly Danny is a Cleopatra archetype to some extent. No doubt like he says they are the exception, but we've found female bodies from various cultures all over the world through various stages in history like Vikings. With them having been given a warriors funeral.
And there is also not any real doubt that through history while the men in power is the one who gets written about and the title of Ruler of the society. There have been Olenna's wether they were the grandmother, mother or even daughter who had a deep understanding of politics. So while they won't get a mention even in a position such as Tywin for being hand, they effectively were the people ruling in secret. Not to mention how there have been women who were born into nothing, managed to gain various positions by starting out as mistresses. Some like Emporer Commodus who was a pretty stupid man who ended up putting Rome in an already more difficult position than it already was by spending money and selling food they couldn't afford to be without in the long run. Ended up getting killed because his mistress discovered in a note he had just laying around, that she along with two others were going to get publicly killed as punishment for things that he had done himself but he needed a scapegoat. After which her station was considerably altered for the better.
She's trying to hide her feminazism
Wow, Put gwyneths name up once every minute and it should be a good interview..
Mail mails.
The interviewer has a very scary stare..😟
Is it just me or does his mustache seem to blend into his nose hair? Not really trying to insult here though. Just wondering.
"War has always treated women badly", and i guess war treats men fairly (don't mind the fact that men are the ones dieing primarily). Gynosentrism
Aliexei Then why are men going to war?
Roxane a Money, ideology, women, power, necessity.
Aliexei Yeah indeed, men have been earning things through going to war, while women have mostly been by-standers who got all the collateral damage without obtaining anything from it. I hardly see how stating that women being treated badly during war is a gynoCentric statement, it's the truth, it's not an opinion.
Roxane a Professional soldiers earn money by war, as well as war criminals. But they are the minority. Men die at war. Women are the by-standards, i agree with you there.
Aliexei So what are you mad at?
She’s super bitter 😂
Wow, thanks for the lord of the rings plot hole, George, why won’t he let us have nice things
That's the whitest black guy I've ever seen
He has to learn how to write books from Stephen King. Martin is the lazy ass. Gosh...I so admire Stephen King for his discipline and hard-working aspects of his personality
Fuck off.