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MJ's resume is overwhelming. I think Lebron is great, he's a legitimate generational player. The problem is its not fair to compare Jordan to anyone, even Lebron. I'm going to leave just a little chunk of MJ's legacy here for anyone interested.
Jordan on Offense
30.1ppg for his career, most in NBA history
33.4ppg career playoffs average, most in NBA history
33.6ppg in 6 Finals appearances, most in NBA history
41.0ppg in a Finals series, most in NBA history
10 Scoring titles, most in NBA history
10 seasons with 2,000+ points, NBA record
Jordan with Analytics
PER (Player Efficiency Rating): Highest in history for both the regular season (27.91) and the playoffs. (28.6)
Win Shares per 48 (WS/48): Highest in history for both the regular season (.2505) and the playoffs (.2553)
Box plus Minus: Highest in history for both the regular season (9.22) and the playoffs (11.14)
VORP per Game: Highest in history for both the regular season (.1083) and the playoffs(.1382)
Jordan on Defense
He was the first player in history to be selected to 9 All Defensive First teams.
He was the first player in history to get 200 steals and 100 blocks in a season, it has still only been done by 3 players. (Michael did it twice).
He was the steals leader 3 times.
He's the only guard in history, relative to his position, both in the Top 5 for blocks and Top 5 for steals.
He was the defensive Player of the Year and Scoring Champion in the same year, the only player in history to accomplish this.
His 131 blocks for the 1988 season is still the most blocks in a season by a guard in NBA history.
Wow... great job show the definitive reasons Jordan is the 🐐
@@ryanbanks4573 Just imagine the energy it took to win both DPOTY, and the scoring title, at 35 ppg. Shit is unreal.
@@punkem733 Crazy Jordan averaged 36 points for 2 years while becoming the only player to record 200 steals and 100 blocks in the same season, twice, consecutively.
@@JET1970 And a Jordan lead college team beat the Larry Bird and Magic Johnson lead Olympic Team. Where Larry gave Jordan a compliment which in itself was amazing.
@@JET1970 And your resume also includes being an ignorant fool, since Jordan won 2 championships before Bird retired...if you don't know what you speak of SHUT...YOUR...MOUTH.
I never heard MJ utter the words I am the GOAT.. He doesnt have to.. The world does it for him.
"Any man who has to say 'I am the King' is no true King." Tywin Lannister.
Always will♥️♥️
did yall miss the quote at the beginning saying exactly this? lmao
MJ also doesn't know what load management is. He also never asked for a super team to be built around him nor did he leave teams seeking it. Lebron is great, but compared to MJ he's soft and had success in a much softer era.
@@youngum78 Amen💯💯
With all due respect. I feel sorry for those that didn’t get to watch MJ play in real time. It was absolutely an incredible sight to behold.
Grew up in the 80's and 90's in Phoenix as a sun's fan. Even then...I was still glued to the TV when Jordan was playing. The Gatorade slogan "Be like Mike" was a mantra repeated by every inspired kid with basketball hoop in his driveway. Simply unreal the way he and the Bulls just electrified the court. The only team I truly enjoyed watching as much as the 90's bulls was the 2005 "7 seconds or less" Suns.
It really was
Shout out to WGN for showing those games
Born in 2001 never watched a single NBA game ever in my life still knew who MJ was
Im from Chicago grew up watching the Bulls and met some of them partied with Rodman once no one and i mean no one will ever play ball like Mike !
I'm a lifetime Lakers fan. However, Michael Jordan made me a fan! He is and was poetry in motion on the basketball court. THE GOAT!
I can tell you one other measure of greatness-- as a Canadian, I love hockey. Basketball's not my game. But during the Bulls' run of greatness, people in Vancouver and Toronto STOPPED WHAT THEY WERE DOING to watch the Bulls games live. Time off work, appointments cancelled, all that. Jordan's interest transcended even the sport of basketball-- he was a kind of god among men.
I don't think Lebron can say that.
I'm with you.
He was the reason the game of basketball hit worldwide.
moms around the world didn't know what the hell basketball was but knew the name Michael Jordan.
that's also when street basketball of 3 on 3 got popular.
Animations like Slam Dunk and TV dramas of basketball made sensation.
He was then once compared in a TV show to Michael Jackson on who the most valuable person is if i remember correctly. (his fame surpassed that of Jackson by then of course)
He was the star of stars as even stars looked at him with awe when in person.
He was a world phonemenon.
He changed the game itself and the world towards it after.
Not the same can be said to anyone else, not Lebron nor any other star in any sports.
Yeah, if that can't be a true measurement of Greatness, then what else can be?
MJ's first retirement was international front page news and programs interrupted to bring his announcement live.
I was in Australia at the time. People in Australia would stop to watch him play. That's greatness.
“There is Michael Jordan, and then there is the rest of us”-Larry Bird
Pretty much sums it all up in very few words.
Thats big from bird coz i think he is way greater than lebron when i think basketball goats i think of mj and bird.
The fact that Bird(who swept MJ twice) is saying, that speaks volumes louder than 11.
For a LEGEND to have said this.... That's saying something ENORMOUS! about that player.
Jerry West said it on T.O.'s podcast....Michael Jordan is the most skilled player he's ever seen. & thats huge for a guy like him to say that. He's seen some real juggernauts play.
Like Walter Payton said, "When you're good you'll tell everyone" "When your great they'll tell" Lebron tells everyone, everyone tells Jordan.
#Facts
walking talking fact machine
What do you mean? Jordan couldn’t go one day without talking smack about how great he is….?
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@@dakotakidd499 bro jordan do not talk about his accolades wtf are you talking about. "trash talking" is different than boasting that's what Lebron pick me ass be doing
Having lived through the Jordan era is something I wish all basketball fans could do. True role model to grow up with. Definitely my 🐐
I feel sorry for those who never got to see Jordan and think LeBron is the goat. It's not even close.
@dustinharrison3491 prime Michael would eat prime LeBron up in a 1 on 1. His drive to win is what set him apart. Tom Brady and Kobe are the only 2 I've ever seen come close but it still hurt MJ more to lose. Seeing MJ through both title runs was the greatest athlete I've ever seen. Dude was magic out there, just a complete phenomenon. He was born to be the basketball God and that's what he was.
He said sorry Lebron, there’s nothing I can do for you…😂😂😂 MJ all day💯💯💯
I've seen both play and one was the most fluid, dynamic, aggressive, savage, fundamental and aesthetically pleasing you will ever witness. And the other guy was Lebron James.
Facts!
Yours is a perfect description of MJ... he was all the things. I was a Cavs fan back with Mark Price & Larry Nance... so you can imagine how much distaste I had for the man... but there will never be another... if you're a youngster pick a new sport... that's always my advice ;-)
I have always felt a bit bad for LeBron... never been a fan... but that's a helluva shadow... though he does it to himself at times.
@@anniehopkins8470 Also, Brad Doherty and prime Ron Harper. That Cavs team was loaded.
MJ made basketball an art.
@@harryalfonso5857 Absolutely.
My favorite Jordan response to the debate, which he rarely will entertain, was when someone asked him who would win in a game with Jordan’s best Bulls team versus LeBron’s best team. Jordan said his best Bulls team by two or three points. The person responded with surprise about the low margin of victory. Jordan said, “We’re much older than them now.” Such a good answer.
Haha that's cold
This was fantastic!
He said "well most of them are in their 60s now"
Took it from Pele tho
@@iyaramonk what's real crazy is Jordan is right! That's exactly how it would be if they played now. 🤣🤣
Everybody wanted to be like Mike whether we liked him or not. He also made basketball so popular worldwide, adding to what the Bird vs. Magic rivalry already did. This is the best video I've seen on the Goat debate. Thanks
Neither of those have anything to do with him being the greatest. He is the GOAT but neither of those reasons are relevant at all
This video reminded me why I used to love watching 90’s NBA, and also why I haven’t watched it since. I love the physicality and seeing Jordan dunk on an entire team. The last dunk in Space Jam wasn’t far off from what he did in real life 😂
most underated comment. I'm old skool, and MJ is Baby Jesus... Those were the best of times and best of players. I just watch those old games from the 80s to 2000 before all the rule changes. Enjoy !
I thought I was the only one.
MJ actually had a defender on him when he dunked, lbj had a clear lane
I feel privileged to have been able to watch Jordan in his prime. The Dude was an absolute beast on the court 🤘🏻😎🇦🇺
You and me both brother. Michael Jordan was THE athlete that I grew up watching. As an adult I became a big NFL fan and got away from the NBA, but growing up basketball was my favorite sport. Looking back, I feel very lucky to have been able to spend my entire childhood watching MJ play, and watched the entire run of the repeat-3 peat. Even in my late 30s, I can still hear in my head Marv Albert commentating as MJ stuck dagger after dagger into opponents in the playoffs. Lebron is one the best players the game has ever seen, but MJ is THE best player to ever play. Most of the people that tell me Lebron is the GOAT are people that weren't old enough to have watched MJ in his prime night in and night out.
You couldn't have said it in a more cliché kinda way.
@@klutch8753 😂😂 true but I’m old remember 😂😂
@@stevehoward5093 okay mate.
Me too
It's not about numbers when comparing these two great players. MJ's mentality was different than anyone's. He was like a silent predator attacking at the most unexpected moment and most of time succeeding spectacularly. Also his physicality was optimal and skills phenomenal. He never gave up in the final moment.
I think Kobe is the closest thing we have seen with that competitive drive and ability to have that killer instinct like Jordan also had.
@@corners3755 And even he was only a sometime defender. But build-wise, hunger, talent, clutchness, and shooting ability, I agree that Kobe came closest. It really makes sense why he and MJ were close.
I just love how the intro looks. MJ shooting and dunking in the post constantly challenged by at least 2 players. Meanwhile, LeBron is dunking with others looking at him and doing nothing. That speaks volumes to how tough the league was back then and how physically and mentally tough you had to be.
MJ will always be the GOAT for me, no matter what the stats will say. Because I got to see him play for a good part of his career. He was magic on the field. A pure wizard. (2 puns intended there)
I did notice the same at the intro. Lebron alone at the rim, but Jordan surronded by players trying to block.
Also, the way this kid reacted to Lebron´s flop, showing shame on that kind of attitude.
MJ made basketball what it is now, without any social media, just playing and winning.
When it comes to durability, I would still take Jordan. The rules of the NBA at the time that he played meant that he was catching a beating every time he drove in and he still drove in.
Plus let's not forget that Jordan played 80-82 games most seasons (barring injury) and put everything on the floor night in and night out.
@@anthonybanks2092 man never took a night off. Ever.
Nah your wrong about that big time, I will say Jordan easy goat
If It was for a contract I would take jordan. But if I was picking a career length in take lebron
I would take Kobe over LeLoser.
MJ is what happens when a superbly athletically gifted player also has the greatest work ethic and competitive will.
False Mjs what happens when the commissioner sees dollar signs Bernard King was better than MJ before he got hurt. I'm a bulls fan and these are my top 54 not being biased to my favorite player Michael Jordan.
I think most of you forgot about a few players and no I don't hate lebron he's just overated with rules slanting towards offensive favor more than ever.
Goat pick between street globetrotter and nba
1 Meadowlark lemon
2 Wilt Chamberlain
3 Earl Manigault
4 Pistol Pete Maravich
5 Oscar Robertson
6 Joe Hammond
7 Elgin Baylor
8 Bill Russell
9 Julius Erving
10 Bernard king before Injuries
11 Street Connie Hawkins
12 Nate Thurmond
13 Kareem
14 Peewee Kirkland
15 Raymond Lewis
16 Michael Jordan
17 Larry Bird
18 Petrrovich 90s guy died
19 Kobe Bryant
20 Hakeem Olajuon
21 Isaiah Thomas yes he was better than magic.
22 Magic
23 Luka Doncic yeah it's still early but he's a beast man
24 Jerry West. I feel he's a little overrated.
25 James Worthy
26 Bill Sharmin
27 Dominique Wilkins
28 Kevin Durant
29 Lebron
30 Kawhi Leonard
31 Gianni's Ant...
32 Bob Davies
33 Karl Malone
34 Elvin Hayes
35 Bob Cousy
36 Bob Petit
37 Walt Frazier
38 Clyde Drexler
39 Moses Malone
40John Stockton
41 Dennis Johnson
42 George Mikan
43 George gervin
44 Nate Archibald. Very underrated before injuries.
45 Kevin McHale
46 David Robinson
47 Tim Duncan
48 Earl Monroe
49 Bob Mcadoo normally without the street players and globetrotter he's higher. Honestly he prob goes just below Moses Malone on this list but with this many players I can't say for sure I do know my top 25 I won't change the order.
50 Stephen Curry
51 Scottie Pippen
52 Shaq
53 James Harden be higher with more defense
@@dustincobb5718 you are out of your mind... 😆 🤣 😂 😹
@@howie4206 MJ had one person at his position even close to his level and the other guy died.
@@howie4206 so I guess you never saw king before his injury he was better than MJ and it's not a what if it's a fact go watch him I'm not lying.
@@howie4206 people need to realize other players were great at basketball too. Mjs my favorite and the best business/marketing athlete ever, but he's not the greatest basketball player or athlete ever.
For those of us who watched every MJ game during the 6 championship years, glad to see someone finally pull together a proper (and fair) comparison as to why the GOAT debate is no debate at all.
And it's no slight 2 LeBron. But that's MJ
@@dominiquejones3805 I think Kobe is number 2, I'm not even sure if Lebron is number 3. th-cam.com/video/ApHmYt7ziMk/w-d-xo.html
The fact that y’all are making these arguments even tho Lebron went to more finals with lesser teams is crazy . Lebron is better and is a better player . Mj is great but dude only look to score
@@eliseewarbutin7630I guess you didn't watch this video because it explains in detail why Jordan is THE GOAT. Also if Lebron is THE GOAT then why did he get swept for the 3rd time in his NBA career this last season ?
@@eliseewarbutin7630MJ was the best perimeter defender ever. He didn't just "look to score" he gave everyone buckets and caused havoc on defense night in night out. In a much more physical league without all the modern body science and load management. LeBron is great for sure but he ain't MJ. If you could run a pickup game of all the all timers LeBron isn't even gonna be the 2nd pick. It's going MJ and then Kobe
This man came with stats and receipts and ended the entire argument
I just wanted to point out the fact that in the beginning, every dunk MJ did he was being guarded and/or fouled, LeBron was the only person in the air in every dunk 🤣
GREAT FACT 2 point OUT !!!!
true, the game has changed, they were more physical back then, it was way harder to play not to mention the competition today i dont know any basketball player except this lewhat dude😁😁
I noticed that too 😂🤣😂🤣 I also laughed when he said he was the best player in the world😂🤣😂🤣. Also I would never and I mean NEVER give the ball to leflop to take the last shot 😂🤣
Jordan travels in the air...Lebron travels on hardwood.
Jordan didn't care, he'd dunk on the whole team and back then you was supposed to foul a player driving the paint
Jordan was the most fluid and aesthetically pleasing player I've ever seen play. You'd have to be old enough to have witnessed the electricity he brought to understand, watching you knew you were witnessing something special. Probably like watching Pele, Gretzky, Bolt or any all time legends in their prime
Give me a break
@@michaelwheeler3782 It's like watching Barry Sanders vs Mike Alstott.... lol
And after Jordan the most fluent player would be Kobe Bryant and the biggest baby and flop artist LeBron
Ayo pause, you did not just call another man aesthetically pleasing 😅😅
That was the most exciting time in basketball. Basketball now is not the same. Players back then battled on the court.
Amazing video young brother. One of the best videos on Mike and Bron in the entire social media universe. Good narration. This was literally like an award winning documentary !🫡🫡🫡🫡
MJ was a class of his own. Watching him play was poetry in motion. Set all stats aside. Watching MJ play was a feast for the basketball eyes
The Bulls were spectacular to watch in the 90's. Not going to lie, they made me cry and I cursed MJ's name for coming back from retirement and beating my Sonics in '96. I can honestly say, had Jordon not retired, they would have won 8 straight championships. No doubt in my mind.
agree
I cursed mj so much too lol
Uhh Jordan lost 3 straight times in the first round of the playoffs. No one wants to mention that Jordan lost every time to Bird's Celtics. When Jordan beat the Celtics, they were an old 48-win team. When Jordan came out of retirement, he lost to the Orlando Magic. Ya'll are out of control.
@@calm-white-noise losing to the magic after Retiring and only playing 17 games in the regular season. Building chemistry and getting on the same page and being in proper shape is critical in sports. The bulls improved record wise agree drafting Jordon. Year 2 he came back from injury early because he wanted to play. The bulls weren't even in the playoffs for 3 years before MJ was drafted. The got bounced by the celtics who were the great in the conference for those 3 straight years. How about lbj in his first 3 years? Oh they didn't even make the play offs in the weak eastern conference in his first 2 years? Do some fact checks and act like you have some sense. The only thing you got is a retired season critique and MJs losses to the celtics lol
No doubt about it. Just imagine……. My gosh…….
What people neglect to mention about Jordan was he paved the way for Athletes to get the major endorsement deals. He physically changed the game on and off the court. Jordan litterally has shoes nobody can fill.
Well said and Without Jordan LeBron would be nowhere CLOSE TO A BILLIONAIRE
Jordan was just better. I don't watch these videos to worry about which millionaire got even more millions.
Jordan maybe the goat in basketball but when you start talking about pave the way for people no one has done more for basketball and his peers than Lebron. Jordan is a piece of shit person off the court and anyone who has knowledge of him wouldn’t say other wise. His own best friend at the time Charles Barkley said Jordan might be the cheapest person he has ever known. Lebron is literally building schools while Jordan is out here investing in prisons. That dude is garbage.
There are people that wear bigger shoes.
@@jp5685 literally took me less than two minutes to search for that you clown.
When they’re saying that Michael Jordan was not a good Three point shooter in case the younger generation doesn’t know it was looked down upon in that Era A three point shot was taking the easy way out that told everyone you didn’t have the skills to go through the paint.
Facts
And if Michael wanted to that personal then he would have been the 3 point best shooter ever.
Bro you miss the part where he said MJ played 82 games 9 times LBJ only 2 times. That’s a big difference when it come to longevity
2 me that plays n2 the durability argument. MJ felt he owed it 2 thr fans that paid hard earned money 2 see him. I'll never 4get lbj had 2 make it a goal 2 play 82 games & the media ate it up
Lbj only played 82 once 2 change the narrative since he knew they weren't gonna win it all
The word ‘Jordan’ is synonymous to greatness. When you’re the Jordan of something, you’re the best at that it.
@vorn eek Real talk!
Exactly. Only Serena would’ve gotten that box he gave her (with the note and the custom shoe). They both shut bitches down WHILE SICK AS F U C K♥️♥️♥️
The most important stats on Jordan for me are that the stats for the Bulls players were all better when Jordan was on the floor vs when he was not. But even more important is that the stats of the Bulls opponents were all higher when Jordan was on the floor vs when he was not. Jordan elevated the ENTIRE GAME.
Wow. Just wow.
@@AcuRobbie he did not make a typo... Read it again
Well done. Best comparison I've seen and how you closed it out with the Mount Rushmore
Jordan made the Chicago Bulls so popular they were on TV Nationally every night!...every game on the season was on national TV...It was such a treat.
i was living in australia for most of the 90s. the bulls were on tv there...no one else except the team they were playing
Great video! I'm 50 and witnessed Jordan's career as a young man. The one thing that people have a hard time articulating about his playing days is 1) he literally brought it every single night and as expectations grew over the years he would still deliver 2) the buzz around every game was almost Superbowl like 3) he would take over close games offensively and defensively but win more often than not 4) his rise to stardom was very organic... he would just have such amazing plays game after game to which average people that didn't even care about basketball or sports for that matter became fans! I could go on and on but many people from my generation consider MJ the GOAT and at the time we all knew we wouldn't see anything like him again! Good times
If you show someone that didn’t grow up watching him some videos they just say “everybody looks good in a highlight video” what they don’t understand is this dude would do something highlight worthy at least once a game
True, MJ was a once in a lifetime player.
This all facts especially every game being like a Super Bowl
Straight up bars
54. Yes.
Even though Jordan is the GOAT, there's nothing wrong with LeBron being your favorite player. Or Kobe or Bird or whoever.
Very true. Magic is my all-time favorite followed by Shaq then Iverson. But without hesitance I will refer to Mike as the GOAT.
100%. Acknowledging someone as the goat doesn’t mean they have to be your favourite player. My favourite Bulls players was Horace Grant but obviously MJ was the man.
Exactly right. Larry was my favorite player, because he tickled me in a way No other did ever. He was so very unique, he came into the league and other seasoned players were like WTF?!? Who the f4ck is this guy, and how is it possible he even exists? He drives a TRACTOR??? Worked as a garbage man?!? That appealed to me. That he could carve a place for himself in history that most would figure impossible. I have MJ as my GOAT. It tickles me though that Larry swept the GOAT twice. Talking sh!t the whole way.
Lebron isn't great he's the type of player that goes with the motion
I like pistol Pete Maravich
This was excellent and i dont know who you are bro but it was very put together well and really enjoyed
Can I just nominate this video as THE GOAT of Basketball Videos !!!!This is like Einstein level of breakdown My MJ LOVING HEART, LOVED IT! Let me just add one more stat KILLER INSTINCT: MJ all the way! I am just glad that I was alive to see it❤ Hats off to the guy that took the towel off Michael’s shoulder as he was walking off the court! I wish that was me😊
I was a Knicks fan, and like many others, Jordan was my favorite player. I’d only root against Jordan when he played the Knicks. He was incomparable and nobody has ever been close. Poor Lebron should never had to deal with comparisons, because its utterly unfair to compare anybody to Jordan.
Those were some of the greatest years in basketball!!! NYC was and still IS THE MECCAA...teams hated to come to NYC even the Bulls because the Knicks were damn GOONS!!!! #BROOKLYN
Still loved the class MSG showed MJ in his last game. They gave him a rousing standing ovation. Despite being a rival, they acknowledged him as an honored competitor worthy of respect.
Same.💯
Poor lebron? He is the one who declare himself the goat.
Yup. Utah Jazz fan here. Hated Jordan… but still sung 🎶sometimes I dreeeam, that he is me… You got to see that’s how I dream to beee *ba ba ba bum bum* I dream I move. I dream I grove. Like Mike! If I could be like Mike!🎶 every time I picked up a basketball. Go Jazz!
That man created a vibe and excitement unseen and unmatched since.... I could care less about basketball nowadays.... but back then... it was FIRE!!!
One guy said it best, Jordan made every play like his LIFE depended on it.... THAT is why he's the true GOAT.
Look how many after copied him. his number 23, his look, his fluid movements, the dude is the TRUTH. There is only one.
I was just thinking that. Jordans fluidity and dexterity had a gracefulness to his highlights. LeBron looks like a clunky, glitchy video game.
Michael Jordan is impressive during his prime. He is my idol in basketball. A perfect ROLE MODEL for all basketball fans even up to this day. He has no weakness just pure GREATNESS.❤
Lebron is a better role model. Jordan is the better player.
This is maybe the best video breakdown I've ever seen of these two players
This was never a serious debate to anyone who’s actually seen “both” play...
I've seen both. And I think theyre on the same level along with Kareem and Wilt. 1 of the biggest problems with people approach to this issue is the rose colored MJ glasses of the 90's and forgetting the 80's, retiring because of his gambling issue that ultimately took his dad's life, and retiring again. Let's be real, MJ was basically Russell Westbrook in the 80's: best individual player but didn't win anything.
On the flip side we over scrutinize evermove everyday for the last 20 years and forget he's been elite for damn near 2 decades, no breaks no off the court blemishes.
@@rcdoubleu next time just say you don't know basketball
@@aw98000 we don't know each other so your statement only tells me you either can't articulate statement to combat what I'm saying or you are too lazy to do so. Either way that's on you not me.
@@rcdoubleu I hear a lot of speculation, but nothing that has anything to do with being considered the greatest. Sorry, but you can't be known for flopping and going MIA in finals, and even be considered in the same class as MJ. OH, and gambling is only an issue if you can't afford it... certainly not the case here.
@@MosiTheGreat it depends on who you're asking. If you willing to reduce a legend to flipping your not being honest out the gate.
And gambling is decently a problem if your a major sports figure. Pete rose lost everything. MJ stepping away in the height of his career for mental health ??! Mmm could be. Or it could the NBA handled him like most corporations handle high profile execs, then don't suspend them, they take leave. The don't get fired, the ask them to resign... But sure that speculation. What isn't is he retired 2x and LeBron has been in MVP voting top 10 for 18 seasons and counting.
The big takeaway from the The Last Dance that the analytics overlook is that MJ had, by far, the best mental game in the history of the game, if not in all sports history. He had an obsessive drive that no one can match
Since you said ALL SPORTS
Brady, Serena Williams?
I agree with Brady, but Serena mentally? I mean she's pure power compared to other women in tennis, the goat no doubt. Not sure about mentally though.
@@coreywashington9982 I don't know if Brady has the edge of Jordan mentally. But Brady went and won a title with another team to go with all those titles he won as a Pat. And the Pat's let him go!
Kobe had that mentality. MJ still gets insulted when anyone even questions any aspect of his GOAT status, but Brady knows Rodgers has more actual talent so I wouldn't say he's got the mindset. Serena has seen many losses caused by error b4 and during her peak and she's been on the descent for a few years b4 reaching some championship title goals/ records sadly
KOBE
My man didn't even have to look at the rim. He shot free throws without looking.
MJ vs Detroit Pistons in the playoffs. That was insane! Those Detroit Bad Boys crew were vicious.
I am so lucky to have gotten to grow up watching MJ as a little kid in the 90's. I was obsessed with him as well as Charles Barkley. What a golden age of basketball.
I was a teenager in the '80s. Watching the Bird/Magic Celtics/Lakers years was unbelievably entertaining (I'm from LA). But to then have this freak of nature walk in and dominate the next decade was simply unreal.
Man, sir charles was a beast back then, its a shame him and Malone never got a ring
@@innocent718bk Ewing and Reggie Miller belong on that list.
@@tobiasschobitz7220 yes sir, plus I wish Barkley and Reggie was nba2k
Sweet 🏀
You’ll notice that in the Jordan highlights, there are defenders around him. That’s the difference.
Exactly. Now it’s a freaking all star game…zero defense…no big men blocking the lane. It’s silly. You see this on other sports too…baseball they exaggerate the HR and in football people pass for 4000 yards every year…stats are so oversaturated. I’m sure the idea is to bring casual fans in but it dilutes the game on my opinion and it makes it difficult to compare eras. You need defense for the game to be compelling otherwise it seems like an exhibition such as a three point contest, home run derby or catch, punt and pass competition.
soo true, its the fear MJ instilled
EXACTLY!
There was no easy lay ups then either. You would get taken out
Exactly
As difficult as it is to compare two players from different NBA leagues, this was the best analysis I have seen. LeBron can't even get to MJ without going through Kobe. Bron is so good, but not on that level.
JustMatt keep up the good work. Thanks for doing your HW & confirming the facts!
You notice one glaring thing in the video. When Jordan went to the goal he had someone on him and sometimes 2 people hanging on him. When James goes to the goal no one was within 2 steps of him much less hanging on to him. Today's basketball is a joke when it comes to defense, the game is really soft now.
Stands out like a sore thumb‼️‼️
The years he played, when they played serious ball, and every little finger touching a guy wasn't a foul. Remember the days when he played the Pistons and he got hammered all the time. Can't do that now. If they did I think LeBron would end on a gurney, whether he actually needed it or not.
@JWHan's-comment/post "You notice one glaring thing in the video. When Jordan went to the goal he had someone on him and sometimes 2 people hanging on him. When James goes to the goal no one was within 2 steps of him much less hanging on to him. Today's basketball is a joke when it comes to defense, the game is really soft now.":
That's why I call it Wussball, not Basketball. (Referring to what you said in your comment "Today's basketball is a joke when it comes to defense, the game is really soft now" and replying to it).
Being the GOAT isn't just about titles. It's about the impact the player had on the game. Jordan changed basketball. He didn't shop around for a better team to win championships. He built a team and took them to the top, time and time again.
to be fair he didn't build the team his GM did but he was amazing at the game no one like him.
@@bartsullivan4866 good gm but not amazing... because jordan, phil jackson and some more, wanted to go for the 4th straight championship... but we all know how that end up :(
Yes! Another great point that can be added in Jordan’s favor.
Jordan had an impact bigger than any other player without a doubt.
@@Kushenable in a way it reminds me of the Lakers failed 4th try with Shaq and kobe how that kind of imploded with Phil Jackson. I didn't think they needed the glove or the mailman. Although I was glad Gary finally got a ring with Miami
@@Kushenable being from Portland Oregon we have the proud history of picking the worst number 1 picks Marcus Larough over several future HOF Er, passing on Michael Jordan, passing on Durant, it's so bad botch it everytime
Jordan floated and danced in the air while putting up the points.
My sister and I grew up watching Jordan. When the Bulls came on after school, they always had the Bulls on TV. We were glued to the TV. We rocked all the Jordan gear. Had tons of posters on the wall, my favorite being the free throw like dunk in 88’. I would watch him play and then go outside and try to duplicate his moves on our smaller hoop. Followed his whole career. If you were able to witness him play in his prime you already know he’s the GOAT and no one is close. I could go on and on. Thanks for the reaction 🤙🏼
As someone that has been a BBall and Indiana fan for more than 28 years, I can say that i never felt the same sense of dread and impending danger from Lebron as I felt from MJ when they played my team. Don't get me wrong, i think LeBron is an all-time great, generation defining player, but he has always lacked that edge that made MJ a nightmare to play against.
As a Pacers fan myself, it was always hard to 👀 them take Jordan and the Bulls to the edge!! My cousin is a HUGE Reggie Miller fan!!
I think that you said an extremely important thing. LeBron defined his generation. Imagine him in Jordan's generation, trying his flopping with The Bad Boys, the Knicks and the Pacers all beating him into submission, not to mention the Magic and a young O'Neill. The refs would probably have laughed at him while he was on the ground.
Moreover, there would have been no leaving a team, getting your friends to form a super team in another city or another city, etc. At least, he would have been part of a very good Cleveland team.
He would not have to play under a Jordan Rules, but rather, a Hack-a-Shak rule since he is a poor free throw shooter.
Can anyone remember a star, during the Jordan era, who would save their energy on defense to be more effective on offense?
Finally, I could see Dennis Rodman being able to shut him down since Rodman was able to shut down more athletic players and more physical players than LeBron.
@@JoLoRod1 you talking like he is the only guy flipping James harden hold the record for most free throws I'm pretty sure, and I can't blame them they just abusing the rules it's a smart play, if LBJ played back then he will most likely adjust to the rules
@@everythingdoesntlastforver1533 Yes, he would soon find out that his flopping and getting free points from that would not work.
He would also learn that getting easy baskets inside would not work as he got his ass kicked by the Knicks and Detroit among other teams.
Sadly, all of this would make him less and less effective. Less effective means less points.
All that would make him worse.
Thus, Jordan, without a doubt, is the GOAT.
@@JoLoRod1 well we never know, I do got Jordan a number 1 and got lebron at number 2 everything that MJ did back then was impressive especially get buckets with how defense was back then
There is one factor that I don’t really see mentioned. Impact on the sport. As a child, I began watching basketball just because of Jordan. How many lives did Jordan impact for basketball? How many kids started playing basketball because of Jordan? How many of some of the best players out there today strived to be like Mike as kids? 😂 He helped shape the future of basketball and the entire industry of sports. We can’t always just look at statistics bc that would be like saying Bob Marley really wasn’t that good of a musician just bc of numbers. But his impact and influence on music and peoples lives was extraordinary. There is absolutely no comparison. Jordan is a legend and THE GOAT.
I am from New Zealand. 51 years old. Rugby is our national sport. We eat, sleep & sh*t rugby! Lol. In 1988 i first saw an NBA game. Bulls in particular. First time i saw Jordan i was mesmerized ! I never played basketball or watched it. From the first time seeing him play. Til his last. I was a MJ /Bulls supporter the entire time. And what a journey it was!! I have a jumpman tattoo on my forearm. Have owned several hundred Air Jordan kicks. A ton of Bulls merchandise. Bulls games on VCR & DVD lol. Fell in love with a game i initially new nothing about. Until Jordan came along. When he retired. I stopped watching NBA as much as i use to. Overtime stopped altogether. Because, No one has captured my imagination like MJ had done. Jordan introduced me to Larry Bird - Magic Johnson - Shaq O'neil - Hakeem Olajuwon - Kobe Bryant - Penny Hardaway & Countless others that i loved to watch. I don't think any other athlete in my 51 years will ever have the impact on my life that MJ did. He was something special. And I'm grateful i was alive to experience MJ Mania.
I dream i move , i dream i groove, like mike , if i could be like mike
I guess you don’t know anything about Jordan outside of basketball. He is a piece of shit outside of basketball. Barkley which was Jordan’s best friend at the time said Jordan might be one of the cheapest people he has ever known. Jordan out here investing in prisons while Lebron out here building schools for kids. Don’t even take this outside of basketball. Lebron is untouchable as far as outside the game. What is Jordan on his second or 3rd marriage? Bad gambling problems which is also widely known. Name one bad thing about Lebron outside of basketball? I also grew up watching Jordan if you are wondering and I’m from Raleigh NC so I know how people talk about him in the Carolina’s. Everything that glitters ain’t gold.
@@jp5685 And he's only on his second marriage. Why does that hurt you? Lol. Stop fabricating bullshit you noob.
MJ has been donating $ to the community for years. Waaaay before Lebron.
@@jp5685 He hasn't invested in prisons smh.....That Michael Jordan is white.....Why do you freaks do this?? Lol
Great video coverage 💯 i stated before different day different times different area
It’s funny, every time there was a clip of MJ going up for a dunk, there was a defender up trying to, you know defend. Every time there was a clip of Lebron going up, there was no defender.
Yeah it's called an open dunk you dumbass
I've been saying that for YEARS!!!!!! Nobody really challenges LeBron at the rim..... This is the "Don't jump" era
@@fabolousnc2006 wouldn’t matter there’s no defending that
Oh shit you triggered the Lebron fans. Of course they don’t know what you are trying to say. They don’t know how to get out of their own feelings. So sensitive
@@ezramarkos4957 It's called Lebron has played in the softest NBA era in the history of the sport.........he's played all these years with a softer rim and a league that has NO DEFENSE........
As a fan of MJ I'd like to point out that MJ's championship wins were '91-93, he retired for 2 yrs came back and won 3 more '96-98. Houston won the '94 & '95 championships. I'm a firm believer that if MJ had not retired the Bulls would have won 8 championships in a row.
Without a doubt.
At least 7
@@deedrtv I agree with you. I think bulls possibly lose in 94 to the rockets but then mj gets mad and they rock them in 95 because that's how mj rolled or... 8 in a row lol.
Double three peat, in the 90’s nba. Absolutely incredible. Jordan is the GOAT
I think that MJ is GOAT with no doubt, but not sure they would go for 8 in a row. Houston team those 2 years was scary, only team in 90's that could snatch win from bulls imo.
Amazing video and funny reactions and commentary
You can see the stark difference in how the defense is played in the different eras. MJ had to battle in a more physical game.
And with people like John Stockton, Bill Lambier and the Pistons, Mark Eaton etc... there is no comparison with the physicality in MJ's days compared to these days. Jordan gets a major hack (equivalent to a flagrant 2 nowadays), falls to the floor and gets up to continue playing without a look or a complaint to the refs.
A couple tidbits on MJ's 3-point shooting. It never gets mentioned that he was the Bulls most prolific 3-point shooter in the first 3-peat years in the playoffs. He made the most 3's and shot them at 38.5%. Also little known fact...everyone talks about the 6 3's Jordan hit in the first half of game 1 against the Blazers in 1992. What doesn't get mentioned is he ended that series hitting more 3's than the entire Blazers team. Jordan wasn't going to go out of his way to spam 3's just for the sake of it, but you couldn't leave him alone at the 3-point line either. It's not a weakness unless it can be exploited. You couldn't exploit MJ from there, he would make you pay for it.
Wasn’t the three point line shorter in one or two of those years tho?
@@deezybeibii NO....from 95 to 97 season was the shorter line..I am talking the first 3-peat years from 91 to 93 season.
@@bwink23 oh ok, I didn’t look it up. I just remember that it was shortened during the 90’s.
Stop it. MJ was no 3 point shooter. He could get hot but Bron is the better shooter.
@@flyologygaming6979 Keep dreaming
Rarely mentioned in these videos is the 180° breakaway rim that was implemented in 2009. It made the basket much softer, and shooting percentages immediately improved and have been higher ever since. LeBron has now played 12 years with those rims.
That’s a good point!!! I can’t believe I never thought about it that way. When I used to play basketball at the park we HATED the harder rims. If you didn’t swish it, you were screwed. It would bounce all the way out of bounds. But at the inside gyms with the breakaways you would get 2 or 3 bounces and it might go in. Plus it made it easier to gauge where the ball was going for your own putback.
The entire game has changed. Defense is now, for the most part, illegal. Guys like MJ, Byrd, Magic Johnson would drop 60+ a night in today's league. On the flipside, LeBron would get lunch eaten by the likes of Rodman and many others, he'd be lucky to average 10ppg.
THAT PART!
That's how that khawi shot went in that year in Toronto
Imagine thinking your the GOAT because you have the scoring record, but you've played FOREVER in a league with a softer rim and a league where defense is virtually illegal haha.......
Jordan was definitely poetry in motion 🥹
Good reaction vid sir. Well made
It’s not hard to determine eras the athletes and how the game was is played says it all…since 2005 the NBA has been the easiest to play because of rule changes
@Rheumattica it worked for a few years now ratings are dropping again because of the game not being pure
Its not about game getting easier but how culture changes. In 90's rules might allow tougher play so it was bit harder but competition was way easier. Try to defend someone like Kyrie or Steph and without touching you they can send you to hospital with broken ankles.
Ratings are falling down because we living in age of internet and clowns, back in the day for kids playing sports was like religion, i used to play basketball and soccer all the time to go back home watch champions league football game and stay up till 3-4am to watch 2 NBA games. That was the only way to actually learn some new moves, i was living basketball back then. Now kids can fire up YT watch game highlights in 6 minutes then watch breakdown on how to learn certain move from youtuber and in 15 mins they know everything they need to know. And thats those interested in NBA cause 99% is more interested in Kardashians and other shit.
Its not just basketball, all sports popularity is falling down
@@mgecko2959 it is about the game being easier and it is period.
Maybe it's just me and alot of people get mad when I say it. For one Meadowlark Lemon is the greatest shooter and Pg ever 2 I've always thought Reggie Miller would be more amazing than Steph with today's rules.
@@dustincobb5718 Reggie would go off with today's rules.
Jordan is a testimony of what happens when you take natural talent, and push it to the limit with a work ethic that makes others envious. That's why he is the GOAT. He didn't coast on his talent and natural skill. He ALWAYS pushed himself and his team mates and built a legacy no other player has been able to duplicate.... only envy.
Not just practice. He learned things normally outside sports, like zen. When you watched the games live, you'd cherish the times that the Bulls were down with just a couple minutes to go. Then you know Jordan will come in, and like a samurai, cut down everyone. No fear, no choking, just the zone, the zen zone.
He did not push it to the limit. THE MAN SMOKED, ate what we now consider unhealthy food and did not have the help of technology as the players today have.
AND STILL he was and is the goat.
imagine his potencial with today's nutrition professionals and a healthier diet/lifestyle.
Also add to all that he was a genetic freak with the hand size of someone 7 feet or taller. Imagine the confidence you would get as a teenager shooting up 7 inches taller than your dad and brother whilst having enormous hands.
MJ is what happens when God takes a lifetime off to play basketball.
I was intruiged to see the
basis of hour title best analysis. But after seeing this i totally agree to this unbiased very factual and precise arguments. I highly appdeciate this that ends the GOAT debate. Please make another like this for BOXING. Hope the sports authorities used this for their reference.
Thank you keeping it real. Lebron is an amazing basketball player no doubt. But the crown goes to MJ. I like your content as well bro. I actually got to see Michael Jordan play in person as well as LeBron James and it’s just something way more magical when you watched Michael Jordan in real time.
Thank goodness I found this video.
Thanks for explaining this to all the young people who never got to see Jordan play. He is the TRUE AND ONLY 🐐
Are you serious
@@michaelwheeler3782 Of course he is serious? What? You think Lebron is the goat? Jordan is absolutely the goat. No question.
I've been watching sports for 55 years. And MJ is the only athlete where I saw no flaws in his game. He was literally otherworldly.
Kobe has no flaws in his game either.
@@bobbyanderson5601 maybe because he got his game from MJ..
@@christian-XVI yeah he copied MJ, but why try and recreate something that was never broken. When speaking about a man that was "otherworldy" on the court something is to be said about someone (Kobe) that could mimic it.
I don't think we see that again n our lifetime but the should be no comparison to him n LeBron when Curry is all said n done I don't think he'll make the top 5 but he's not even caught Kobe yet? He's to big to soar n move like MJ , that's my opinion
MJ's 'flaw' was his personality. He alienated a lot of his teammates. He carried them and be set the standard which good things, yet he wasn't carrying bums to the finals or getting guys to play above themselves like a cp3 or LeBron
It may have been a different era but these players were close enough to allow a solid and fair breakdown of side by side achievement. It doesn't give the "different era" excuse any leverage because the time frame was close enough that acceptable comparable stats were kept. Just hard facts. My hope is that basketball will continue to change, backward, and we will go back and pick up some of the things we seem to have left along the way. At this rate a few years down the road and all basketball will be is three point shot, applause, repeat.
I already knew these things before i saw the vid. Thanks for confirming my Understanding of the game. Plus, the man is undefeated in finals. Not one great can say that with multiple championships. nuff said.
I have had the privilege of watching both eras and I must say it’s not even close. Jordan was feared. Nobody wanted to guard him and everyone was afraid to talk junk to him . Jordan would tell players what he was going to do and STILL accomplish it aka “I’m going left”. Jordan hands down.
Yeah, do you remember the Kevin Garnett story?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 If not google or TH-cam kg speaks about Jordan. That’s never been done before or after mike where people feared playing someone. Hell, the “Jordan Rules” exists for a reason! (For those readers who aren’t in the know, the Jordan Rules are: we will defend everyone according to their weaknesses so be sure to remember key plays and watch and control their tempo but as for Jordan he’s gonna get his points so do your best out there because he’s gonna get his regardless of what strategy we employ. That’s the Jordan Rules.)
@@ludotoyhunter8492 No, the Jordan rules were to double team him all the time and get physical with him in order to wear him out, as was successfully done by the Pistons in '88-'90.
@@natureiscool4364 that’s NOT the Jordan Rules. Look it up.
Lebron tells player what they’re about to do.
@Rc_carV3 is that why he’s been to 10 finals appearances to Jordan 6? To be 100. They both have almost identical post season win loss percentages. Jordan stans just want to say but Jordan went 6-0. They don’t talk about his losses before the finals.
10,000 years from now MJ will still be the 🐐
Indeed
you didn’t say that LOUD ENOUGH!!!!
No doubt about it
I guarantee that within 100 years that we are going to see some new guy that easily is the GOAT over Michael. Let your imagination fly.
YEAH!
i wish i would have seen this sooner. this is insanely perfect,
Not to mention, Jordan sometimes would play 18 holes of golf before playing games. Also, when Jordan was drafted by the bulls from UNC, they asked the organization what his weakness and they said was his shot. Fastforward, he ends up becoming the greatest mid court shooter.
You knew MJ was going to rip your heart out every time he stepped on the floor. You can't say that about Bron.
Tell that to Isaiah Thomas an the Detroit pistons about how much they feared Michael Jordan they will tell you different, they didn't fear Michael Jordan it took a couple of years an the addition of Scottie Pippen along with Michael Jordan to get pass Isaiah Thomas an the Detroit pistons from putting the Chicago Bulls out of the playoffs every season to finally get Michael Jordan his first championship ring, Michael Jordan is the GOAT but he wasn't feared by everyone because it takes a team effort to win a title one man can't do it all by himself, if that was the case Michael Jordan would have won a ring before Scottie Pippen was added to the team but he didn't until Scottie Pippen joined the Bulls an the rest is history.
@@charleswilkinson5211 This hurt my head to read.
The bad boy pistons were a dominant team. I'd love to transport LeBron James. With his all star dream team... Try and win a series against them. It would be hilarious watching a bunch of soft ass players. Try and play durring a time. When there were no easy trips to the basket. It was a fucking physical game. That even someone with LeBron size. Would do little to help. Because LeBron has proven numerous times. He doesn't have the same mental toughness. Jordan had.
Issah acted like a bitch. When the Bulls beat them. The same way LeBron acts. Like a damn child. When they don't get their way.
@@charleswilkinson5211 Maybe they didn't fear him but they damn sure respected him enough to establish the "Jordan Rules".
I still the remember the heartache I felt when they beat the Lakers in 91.
Just ask Karl Malone.
MJ was on another level. Globalized the league, & started the sneaker game. MJs style of play was just so smooth. Love from New Zealand 🤩
1st time here. I enjoyed the video. It would be better if you paused to talk because I missed what the narrator said a few times when you were talking. Thanks for the video!
One trained as a shooting guard, the other played as a bigger small forward type, different games, different styles.
I had the privilege of watching almost every game MJ played live. It was Absolutely amazing, and unforgettable!
Wow ! Talk about being a season ticket holder ✌🏾
MJ was like watching God play basketball
No t f it wasn’t ….
LeBron ain't even in the same category with MJ....it pains me that these comparisons even exist. MJ all day. Bron not even close.
@@frayedends7291 I have been telling people this for years & MJ in his prime would have simply schooled Lebron James. 🤔 To be honest, I still believe that Kobe was a better player than Lebron is to this day, but since Kobe is no longer with us, I really don’t like to keep saying it. 😞
Different era different rules,Jordan played n da gladiator era where to get to that bucket u had to b a beast
Those of us that got to see the jordan era.Dont realize how lucky we are to have witnessed it.
For all of us that saw MJ and Lebron play it was clear from the beginning, there is no comparison at all. It's actually the clearest definition of GOAT.
I think that guy did the best analysis you could possibly do. Plus he is right. Jordan played in a way more physical era.. That made his job even harder
I'm sorry to say but honestly this video is accurate. I grew up watching Michael play and till this day nobody is on his level. Well the only guy I would say kinda impressed me was Kobe Bryant. He is the closest image to a Michael jordan.
Bro no way ur saying Kobe is more like mj than lebron
Kobe surpassed Jordan in my opinion because he elevated what Jordan was.
@@JoseGarcia-wb1xp Kobe is closer to Jordan then LeBron ever will be. Kobe modeled his entire game after Jordan and sought to elevate it. He played pretty much exactly like Jordan and made small changes and tweaks.
@@acecun6202 maybe how he played but lebron is more of a goat than kobe
@@JoseGarcia-wb1xp wow drugs are bad my friend Kobe is way better than labrum and I used to be a labum fan but you can’t have no heart and call yourself the goat. Iverson is better than lebron in some categories too . Lebron is just very good and should be happy withtgat but he is not the greatest
Most notable thing for me in this video is your facial expressions you had me in tears man I knew you were fan of the other player as you looked like you wanted climb in a hole and never come out again great video man ...
It definitely makes it easier when you have seen them both play live.
Best breakdown ever. I grew up on MJ. He's forever my GOAT. I was able to watch both play. MJ is the GOAT period!
we grew up in a great time for basketball didnt we! lol
@@Sabre912 sure did, no flopping, more aggressive NBA, where they actually played defense.
@@Sabre912 we sure did! Players cared about the game. Today it's all me, me, me the business of the game has ruined the game.
@@Anonymous-gh8kt I'll take a 85- 82 final score any day vs today's 124 - 119 finals scores.
@@LoveIsAllWeneed666 yeah I hate to say but I don’t watch anymore… mostly cause I forget when the season starts each year and I have a job so I can’t keep up and it makes me feel like less of a fan lmao
Listen, Jordan hitting 50% in clutch time is even more impressive when you factor in that EVERYONE KNEW HE WAS TAKING IT HE SHOT.
What about Kerr & Paxson
He didn't take those shots
@@TheMisfits7783 LECHOKE 10 FOR 28,0 FOR 7 IN NBA FINALS.NIUFF SAID
Still not better than the Legend himself LARRY BIRD
That is a very valid point!
How clutch was Jordan his first 9 years in the nba?
I fell like you have to take their per game Stat and use a multiplier based on what the league average was for each stat. Maybe that help compare era's? IDK the stats are set up for point guards
LeBron relies on his size and strength a lot to go through people like a fullback.
MJ used skill. He would go around you, over you, put you in a spin cycle, or just mentally break your will.
I'm 52 so I've had the good fortune of seeing both full careers... MJ is the best player I have ever seen, and it's not close.
Having been alive long enough and a NBA fan since 1982, I’ve been able to watch a lot of great basketball. I can say without a doubt, Michael Jordan is the greatest athlete I’ve ever seen.
I agree kinda. I’m from North Carolina and grew up a UNC fan and then a Bulls fan because NC didn’t have a NBA team yet. But to me the most overlooked GOAT is “Efren “Bata” Reyes from the Philippines. He’s a pool player but much more. If you haven’t seen his highlights, go watch them.
I can't decide if MJ or Bo is the greatest athlete. Imagine where the conversation would be had Bo not been hurt..
There's a story of Jordan running a sub 4.4 forty yard dash. That's Adrian Peterson speed, plus Jordans overall athletic ability vertical/twitchiness
@@b2real220 4.4 speed isn’t crazy it depends on how bulky you are and how my of that muscle is for power or raw strength…. A lot of higschoolers run under 4.5 Jordan was much lighter lebron also ran a respected 4.5 he’s not really close to the greatest athlete bc he lacks mass the reason it’s crazy that lebron and football players move well is because they are so big
I think Richy Carmicheal was even MORE dominant in motocross that Jordan was on the floor. Space aliens, both of them.
I say this all of the time. It took a kid like LeBron starting off at 18 yo, was able to catch up to MJ. MJ had a 14 to 16 year career, LBJ has about twenty. Meaning? MJ has accomplished more in his 14 year career than LBJ has in now 20 year career. MJ is 👑🤴
Every game was must see tv i know fans from this era wont understand because the regular season games now dont matter and players load manage but in the 90s every game was a playoffs atmosphere and the players back then tried every play
From my perspective, it's about the drive, the work ethic, and the competitiveness while also having the natural talent and developed skill. Only few people have achieved such GOAT greatness: Jordan, Kobe and possibly Bird.
I turn 40 this year. I STILL remember them days. Everyone walks in that man's shadow. Period.
That’s funny
41 a month ago. If you didnt see it, you cant understand. When you watched every other team, you watched the ball. When you watched the bulls, you watched jordan.
@@JakeFishing_ But true
I’m turning 40 also and I remember Jordan was literally the prime time show when he was playing. When the playoffs were on no other show stood a chance.
@@wesleypriddy8698 that is not true. you watched Shaq. you watched Shawn Kemp. the list goes on.
I dont get how this guy compare longevity when MJ played in the 80s and 90s where you have the opponents literally *beat* you down.
Thats like calling a Prius more durable than a Hummer when the Hummer went to Afghanistan and the Prius cruised the San Francisco suburbs.
I dont care how fit anyone is, they wouldnt be playing no 17 seasons in the 80s NBA.
There is a reason alot of guys back then didnt play for more than 13 years.
Had they played today, they wouldve played for 20.
Only player has rules made for him. They're called the Jordan rules.
Lol! I get it MJ is the Goat and I am a Bron fan but longevity is another story because that’s how players take care of their bodies. Don’t forget that top 2 all time scorers are from 70’s-80s and 80’s-90s with 19 and 20 seasons played (Abdul-Jabar and Malone), Robert Parish had 1611 games played all time while AC Green had 1,100 games played consecutive. What does that mean? And also lots of players in todays generation played less than 13 NBA seasons. Let us just appreciate players who have crazy longevity in the NBA. Kobe played 20 seasons despite his injuries, does that mean he wasn’t beat down because he has 20 seasons? And you are saying if those old players play today they would have 20 seasons? Lol, I know they are tough but they wouldn’t even catch players today because of how fast and athletic they are.
It’s nauseating watching how players just step aside or back these days when any player is even looking towards the basket in the paint… And there are people defending this weak narrative about “they don’t want to be on the next poster getting dunked on”. That’s BS!!
As much as LBJ has the lane cleared for his easy layup, he equally shows up for only 50% of the plays on defense.
Another thing too is that Jordan played in an era without zone defense. Zone defense wasn't allowed in the league until 2003. Imagine a team running zone on MJ lmao. To be fair certain types of double teams weren't allowed in MJ's era either. If you double teamed a player you weren't allowed to rotate back to your original man. The zone defense allowed that and several other wrinkles. Nevertheless, Jordan always had someone in his face.
What about Kareem?
You seem like a nice guy but that guy put a great video together Don't talk over it. Give your commentary at the end now I have to go find this video to watch it I want to hear everything that they were saying it was awesome and I will say to you thank you for putting me onto this I'm not even a basketball fan but I do love these debates. Find one on the goat and hockey see what you can come up with? I'd love to see that there's some people out there that are looking to pass some records on the great one but are they comparable I like what this guy had to say I learned a lot so thank you for putting me onto this. I look forward to learning more in the future thank you.
You found an amazing comparison video. That’s a very, very long time to watch you watch this video. I need more commentary to continue watching you, and commentary of substance. You call out the win for Cleveland, but the Bulls were nothing before Jordan (and after).
Lebron VS MJ ? I still think he hasn't surpassed Kobe yet, let alone MJ. 🤔
Hasn't passed Bird. Dude can't shoot 😆
agreed. Within the era Lebron has played, Kobe was a better player than him in the early years and Steph Curry has been a better player in the later years. I dont think Lebron was even the best in his generation, let alone GOAT.
Kobe's first three championships he had the most dominant player in the whole NBA in Shaq. Stop it Kobe never won anything without a good big man.
@@miguidr8094 Please don't act like there isn't a difference between Shaq and Pau Gasol. Lebron has had just as much help with all his rings if not more when compared to Kobe's last 2... You stop it
@@7shocker GTFOH...Bird would get mollywhopped by Bron...STOOOOOOp!