Are There Stages of Realization? - Rupert Spira
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 พ.ค. 2015
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A conversation with Rupert Spira about the unfolding of his realization.
From an early age Rupert was deeply interested in the nature of Reality. For twenty years he studied the teachings of Ouspensky, Krishnamurti, Rumi, Shankaracharya, Ramana Maharshi, Nisargadatta and Robert Adams, until he met his teacher, Francis Lucille, twelve years ago. Francis introduced Rupert to the teaching of Jean Klein, Parmenides, Wei Wu Wei and Atmananda Krishnamenon and, more importantly, directly indicated to him the true nature of experience.
Rupert’s first book is “The Transparency of Things,” subtitled “Contemplating the Nature of Experience”. His second book, “Presence Volume I The Art of Peace and Happiness and Presence Volume II The Intimacy of All Experience” has been currently released by Non-Duality Press. non-duality.rupertspira.com/
6:30 "Two essential feelings that define the separate self. The fear of death and the sense of lack. All the imaginary separate self's activities are designed to alle(viate) fear and fulfill sense of lack" : Beautifully said.
Kind eyes
Unless you are in pain.
So powerful, and so true
Well then try to live through your mornings without coffee!
@@AndreasDelleske Be one with the coffee!;)
The three stages of realization that are mentioned in the above video are:
Stage:1--The realization that you are pure awareness.
Stage:2-The recognition that the nature of the awareness is infinite both in time and space.
Stage:3-The endless process to manage to live all the realms of your life in accordance with the discoveries of stage 1(one) and 2(two).
thank for your useful summary! Namaste
@@ferdinandocoluccelli9574 Νamaste dear friend...
Beautiful!!! Well summed up
This is not all correct. Awareness/spirit is outside spacetime, it is zero dimensional.
Also, the spirit is not only awareness, but also conscience and the power of intent.
This video contains the whole teaching in a nutshell. Basically, these eight minutes are all one needs to hear about awakening!
Sebastian Taeggi That is right
caviper1 What is it that tells you and Sebastian this?
Scott Walker My memory of these experiences and my awareness of what comes after. I am aware that I am aware of these memories and experiences, and also aware of the fact that I am here and not lost in the stream of thought.
caviper1 I understand. Thank you for your reply.
caviper1 One more question if you would be so kind. Aren't the memories themselves totally mind generated through the thought stream?
I loved the part when he explained that the fear of death and the sense of lack are the basic attributes of the seperate self , it summarizes the humman suffering clearly💫👌
There is only ONE "stage" of REALization;
I am Pure Awareness / Being aware of being aware 💗
And yes, thank you Rupert echoing that timeless wisdom, that it doesn't take 20 years to REALize it 🎉 💗
To see your thoughts as just thoughts is to be free of them.
(Some are are stickier than others)
and of desire?
@@margaritalopez5310 no thoughts. No desires
marcelw1981 it’s impossible to stop thinking
Kaspen82
No need to stop thinking. Just be free of investing your energy and attention into *unnecessary* thought.
@@Kaspen82 Let thoughts and feelings have their home in you, but don’t make your home in them. See thoughts and feelings like a train that enters a station and then leaves; be like the station, not like a passenger. Movie metaphor: the screen is not affected by any drama in a movie; as the observer... the knower...as awareness- you ARE the screen, not the movie.
He’s a visionary and has mastered the art of life, may we all learn from him
If i'm honest, I should say that im getting more aware how unaware I am most of the time...
That is to be fully aware!
That in you which recognises unawareness is awareness.
The moment you are aware that you are unaware. You are aware 😉
thanks for you comment it kinda hit me
I think we confound awareness with knowing with the mind.
Wow, peace radiates from this person and the very manner that he speaks
I wish there was some way that I could express the depth of my gratitude for helping to guide me to my remembering of my true nature. Sincere, kind, thanks for sharing your insights with the world.
Thank you for sharing and teaching me a new way of expressing my gratitude as depth different angle of appreciation, I love it🙏
Perhaps we dont need 20 years to understand it, but it takes 20 years of learning to teach it ❤
There is nothing to teach.
What would you teach...? 🫢
There is nowhere to go,
and nothing to do ❤
Awakening, loosening the tight bonds with the body and senses is both the most wonderful experience we can have and also the most resisted (try telling a family member)......wonderful, so fortunate to be in this time. Thank you Rupert.
Yes, I’ve had some blank looks when beginning to explain this. I think it may be something people have to be receptive to or it just sounds like nonsense.
After the recognition of our essencial being; it cannot be something more interesting than this!!! Incredible! Thank u Rupert :)))
I am so grateful that I was able to hear it. Thank you 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Great teacher! So beautifully and lovely explained, thank you!
Things are supposed to be the way they are, yet so complex, yet so simple. I've been listening to Rupert for quite some time and must say what a tender master he is, yet by master we can only call ourselves individually.
Thank you for eloquently parking the idea of enlightenment as a final and finite stage.
What a beautiful video. Thank you. Rupert is incredibly special
This vid is so beautifully done - in every way. Heaven, itself, is in what is being shared here thru Rupert - or, at a minimum, release from all suffering is offered. Yet even the lovely floral bouquet being out of focus in the background - putting Rupert in sharp focus - says something relevant. Got no words for it - beyond sharing gratitude ~♥~
Thank you Rupert!!!!! ❤
So good!
So beautiful!
Thank you!! ☀️
Thank You for the last two minutes! 👏🙌💗
it's wonderful to hear those things you suspect.... so well articulated.
Beautifully expressed. Thank you rupert.. 🙏🏼
What tremendous beauty this just awoke a little bit in me
Perfect. Just what I needed to know at this stage. Jed McKenna said "further" but I wasn't sure what that meant. Endless makes perfect sense.
Thank you. ✌🙂
This filled me with gratitude. Thank you🙏🏽🤍
Its fun.Brings so much peace and Joy.Don't want it to end.
Thank you, I finally get it
Thank you for sharing the thoughtful (wrong word) presence of his wisdom and gracious being with us. His speaking is better than a warm bubble bath or a nap on a rainy day ~
There are several separate stages to Enlightenment/ Self Realization. Read through the Dr. David R. Hawkins material (about 10 books). Start with "Power v. Force". Best to read them in the order written. He delineates the many different levels of consciousness, explains what you experience on each level, and how to get there. In over 50 years of study (and practice) on the subject of consciousness elevation, this is absolutely the best material. Best of luck.
Couldn’t agree more. I don’t have 50 years into this. I found Hawkins at year 2 in my search but can feel the truth in the teachings. Love Rupert as well.
This is such clear teaching.... Buddist teaching. Thank you. The teacher arrives when the pupil is ready🙏🙏
I was always this ! How did I forget ! I am the consciousness in this body vessel.
Thanks for including so much science!
When did we decide happiness was our right? The grace of being embodied I find beyond words. I think it's Gibrabran who said when a friend allows you to weep together we are friends. I used to belong to the boo ha club. One tale teller would be reviting. Eventually we wept so hard we began to laugh....I also laughed as a child when I was beaten as a child. Pain leads to transformation when love and connection are present.
What I love about Rupert is how straight to the point he is. No BS. No beating around the bush. No special rituals. He makes it simple because it is simple.
I think that he is more clear than the eastern classical teachers who complicate things by sanskrit terms
@@dr.mohammadsuhail3865the reason is that those eastern teaching are for everybody and for lower quality of consciousness people you need a ladder to weaken the ego. Non duality is a high level teaching, an average person will not get it at all.
Going to see Rupert at the garrison institute next week, want to understand how to live with these realizations in this lifetime!! Also took me 20 plus years of experiential knowledge..🙏🏼 its all cool!
That's so beautifully expressed!
Very well articulated...I was looking for such a description
Thank you so much for this beautiful video.I would have been happy if you could tell us in more detail on how to live this understanding.
Wonderful to listen to him
Beautiful!
Beautiful! 🙏
Thank you Mr. Spira. My mind says *I LIKE THAT.*
Thanks Rupert!
Brilliant explanation.The best of everything I've hear on youtube on enlightenment.No fancy words,stories,BS,guru dressing,etc.Thank you.
That ‘s where I am like he explained in head and behind eyes so funny . I was wondering if others feel this way too 😂😂
So beautiful ! I closed my eyes and I noticed it was dark ! Who knew ? :)
Who knew? Please tell me bro
GREAT ! THANK YOU RUPERT !
one of the greatest master rupert always makes it so easy...
He's not even making it easy...becuse it is already easy ; it's the other teachers making out of it such a complicated thing !
Try reading the Upanishads, even easier!
The end of this video was absolutely beautiful ❤
Thank you for your short talk above. I was very interested to hear about your realisation and I am impressed by the way you thoughtfully choose your words of explanation. One question did immediately came to me and I would appreciate your thoughts on the following: if "I" am that which is aware, does "that which is aware" and the awareness continue after what is commonly known as death? 🙏
That was beautiful
what he states at 641 is totally backwards to TV !! Media bombards you with nonstop images of FEAR via "news" and LACK thru commercials. throw away the TV folks...its bad for your awakening.
bza069
They are here also...
The truth of transcendental awareness seems to be an act of faith. I've listened to at least a hundred hours of Rupert over the last couple of months. There is an act of faith similar to that required by a devotional religion that awareness can answer any deficit. I'm struggling with it....
Love to the one and only .... peace and light forever... 🌱
Thank you💚
No words. Okay, two words....thank you🌟
thank you rupert
The thought my seperate self had when watching this video was "wow!".
Wow this was amazing. Awesome
Beautiful 🙏
Thank you 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Padmasambhava says:
Oh, once you have calmed the compulsive thoughts in your mind right where they are, and the mind is unmodified, isn't there a motionless stability? Oh, this is called quiescence, but it is not the nature of the mind.
Now, steadily observe the very nature of your own mind that is being still. Is there a resplendent emptiness that is nothing, that is unestablished in the nature of any substance, shape, or color? That is called the empty essence.
Isn't there a luster of that emptiness that is unceasing, clear, immaculate, soothing, and luminous, as it were? That is called the luminous nature. Its essential nature is the indivisibility of sheer emptiness, not established as anything, and its unceasing, vivid luster-such awareness is resplendent and brilliant as it were.
This present, unmoving consciousness, which cannot be directly expressed in words, is given the name awareness. That which thinks is this alone, so it is given the name mind. It is this that is mindful of all kinds of things, so it is given the name mindfulness. While it is not seen, it is a special seeing that is clear, steady, unmediated, and steadfast, so it is given the name insight.
It is that that makes distinctions among all specific phenomena, like separating the layers of a mushroom, so it is given the name discerning wisdom. All terms such as the sugatagarbha, the sole the absolute nature, primordial wisdom, the middle way, ultimate truth, Mahamudra, Atiyoga, and emptiness are names of this alone."
from page 120. "A Spacious Path to Freedom ", by Karma Chagme.
That 's remarkable.
"It's an Art of Life" 🙏
If in order to know a finite world, awareness must limit itself into the separate self, how can we be sure that there is no limit of awareness? A limit which, with our limited mind, we cannot know?
Beautiful
Wonderful crystal clear still a mistery
Listen over and overr again, you wil , find out the absolute truth ❤❤❤
What is the music 0.16 seconds into the clip?
There it is, all of you spiritual seekers out there, the final word, now go and get realized.
What about this th-cam.com/video/6h929V-_Mgg/w-d-xo.html
I don’t believe that the third stage has no end. Nisargadatta discribed this stage as love trying to find expression. Initially frustrated, ultimately victorious.
I am pure awareness. Okay I get that. Without awareness, I wouldn't be much of anything. But I haven't seen any reasonable explanation that the nature of my awareness is infinite both in time and space. That seems like pure conjecture to me. There is no birth and death? How do you know my awareness is not a seed that starts and ends with my physical existence? Or even if it was universal, how do I know it didn't start at some point and end at some point? Or what it's nature is--perhaps it's just a spark, nothing more. Just because I can't see and experience birth or death, or yesterday, or over there which is not here, doesn't mean it doesn't exist! Can anybody please show me how we can conclude that our awareness is infinite???
Most succinct!
th-cam.com/video/6h929V-_Mgg/w-d-xo.html
Beautiful
Gracias ☺ 😊 💖
This experience of Life consists of our presence in Eternal Awareness, all the while enwrapped in infinite energy. We literally live in Tao...
Thank you
...sitting 'in' awareness, abiding without need or goal, one will eventually experience LIFE itself streaming you as all, into existence. Very, very subtle, always present but hidden by the noise of the 'self'...no big thing, just being the experience of being human. De Oppresso Liber
It takes what it takes and a simple phrase is only going to give you the cognition, when that simple phrase by the grace of god or life is ready to be truly heard, or penetrates the self, bingo cognition of something that awareness doesn't even need to hear, how superbly insane.
Silence ♡ Presence ॐ Peace
Sat Chit Ananda
Namaste 🙏
He is such a brilliant teacher I am so grateful for his teaching but who was Rupert Spira,s teacher are there any videos of his teaching.
Francis Lucille. He has a you tube channel also.
@@SamarpanaYogananda6509 wow thank you.
I’ve read your comments. I am aware of where you are at in this moment. Wishing you a good day!
You know people are bullshiting themselves when they say they are not afraid of death. Everyone fears death. That's what keeps us alive.
The 2nd experiencial discovery is a bliss and very liberating. Pure joy and love
The significance of the passage of time, right,
the significance of the passage of time.
So, when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time in terms of what we need to do to lay these wires. What we need to do to create these jobs.
And there is such great significance to the passage of time when we think about a day in the life of our children.
A lot of people saying, so beautiful, so clear and so on. I doubt most people understand it. It took him 20 years. I certainly don’t understand it.
This cannot be understood!!!
The knowing that I am aware is limitation. There is no freedom in knowledge. Freedom starts where all knowledge ends, even the knowledge of "I am aware".
Can you explain? Awareness is always knowing and always present. It’s more of a realization.
A wonderful experience to be guided toward awareness. But all he can do is entice.
Still waiting to experientially discover that what I am is without limits. I ask myself of what will I be aware when I am dead and the answer seems to be nothing. Awareness seems to be very limited, I am not aware of anybody else's thoughts only my own. I'm not aware of what's happening in my friend's house right now. The list of things of which I have no awareness is huge so it definitely appears that my awareness is limited. So rationally I cannot say that awareness is without limits. Like I said I'm still waiting for some kind of experience that shows me that I'm mistaken.
I can relate...please share if you gain any insight/make any experiential progress on this second stage!
A beautiful video from a very wise man.
There is however two errors, and that is firstly; that there are no numerical stages of realization.
Realization and enlightenment is fathomless and as deep as the space of the universe.
Secondly, there is a distinction between awareness and consciousness as with awareness there is always a distance towards the sensed object. Space between taste, sound, touch, visual and cognition. Consciousness however, has no distance, and thus is forever present and impersonal. In other words, awareness is an extension of consciousness, but not consciousness itself.
Of all the teachers I have read and listened to, there is only Barry Long who has been capable of penetrating the deepest level of consciousness which is truly worth listening to if you are searching for the truest truth.
The mention of stages are merely a teaching aide (and i haven't even seen it yet).
Point two, He uses the words interchangeably sometimes.
How am I aware of being aware without the body, like what happens when I die? How does awareness take place then?? And what does he mean by the non-objective experience of being aware, that there are no objective qualities?
What to do when you can feel your awareness???? How to know awareness is one and infinite and eternal..... I'm stuck on the first stage please guide me to someone
Perfectoo..
At about 5.15 this just breaks down in terms of coherence. You don't need to take this extra step into 'non objective' 'limitless' 'knowing ' but maybe - we automatically do in the absense of 'God'. Who is the knower ? Confusing awareness which has its roots in our ancestry with a 'panpsychic' kind of consciousness is projection, and ultimately understandable in human terms, but I think it bypasses some hard existential aspects to the reality we are inextricably enmeshed in.
I understand the first part. That everything happens in awareness, but I don't get that awareness is without limit. It might be without limit, but how do we know since we only experience it with limits? Nobody is aware of a specific rock on the far side of the moon, but that doesn't mean it's not there. Can anybody explain this in a way that doesn't require faith, feeling or belief?
I need to understand what to do with this stage also
This seems to me another way of saying 'I am the universe experiencing itself'
"I am aware" is a thought. When there is no thought you don't know that you are aware.
Awareness exists prior to thoughts and emotions that appear in it.
This makes more sense if you grasp the illusion of the ego and have deep meditative experiences. If you want sources of authority on the scientific end, I would suggest the work of Sam Harris. None of this depends on any religion or dogma.
+ShakinJamacian In order for you to know that you are aware you need the knowledge that has been given to you which is thought. Otherwise you don't know that you are aware. You don't even know what awareness is. Awareness is merely a thought. Awareness doesn't exist. The thought about awareness that exists. "I am aware" is merely a thought. Nothing else.
kekfuszal Well, what exists then? If awareness doesn't, what does? The nonsensical concepts like souls, selves, and egos?
+ShakinJamacian Well, even the question "what exists" comes out of the knowledge you have. Which is thought. Whatever exists or not, you have no way of figuring it out. All we have is to think ABOUT it. Trying to understand what life is, exists or not is futile. And there is no need for us to do so.
what a silly point. so Pluto didn't exist until we saw it? awareness is merely a thought? awareness does not require thought whatsoever. an animal or insect has no thought but it has awareness. you have it backwards and simply lack understanding. this is my impression of you: "the ocean doesn't exist. only waves exist." sorry dude but you're a frickin idiot when it comes to this enlightenment stuff.
Please give him a ......... noble prize.......