Are piston rings causing oil burning? | Compression test | Oil Burning🔥Experiments | Episode 3

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  • Doing a compression test to confirm or refute stuck piston ring theory.
    0:00 Intro
    00:14 Removing EFI fuse
    00:47 Removing coil packs
    1:37 Removing spark plugs
    2:32 Compression test kit
    3:36 Compression testing with engine cold
    5:40 Compression testing with engine warm
    7:15 What does it all mean?
    11:02 Cleaning spark plugs
    12:02 Checking and cleaning PCV valve
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  • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
    @FamilyFriendlyDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Previous video in this series:
    Motor Flush vs. Stuck Piston Rings: th-cam.com/video/h00tNeTEiVg/w-d-xo.html
    Next video in this series:
    Is it the PCV valve?: th-cam.com/video/91gMq7QYN-I/w-d-xo.html

  • @ricktopping1191
    @ricktopping1191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Off to do a compression test on my engine right now! Bought the tool about 6 months ago and it's still in it's packaging. My SAAB is also burning a bit of oil. Not as much as your Toyota though. It has 210k miles on it and last year I fitted a refurbished head with all new valve oil seals. This improved things but still losing a bit of oil. Time to work through what else it might be. It's not the turbo as that has also been replaced with a quality refurbished unit. I've also stocked up on some Seafoam and will give the bottom up approach a try. Thanks for creating these videos. They have inpired me to get to the bottom of the issue once and for all. Cheers.

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the comment, Richard. I wish you the best with your SAAB. Sounds like you really love it. I've heard those turbo SAABs are a pleasure to drive--wait, all of them have turbos, don't they?

    • @ricktopping1191
      @ricktopping1191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@FamilyFriendlyDIY Good news is I have 215psi on all cylinders and the plugs are a nice biscuit colour with nice clean piston tops. I've chucked a slug of seafoam in with the oil and will run it for 300 miles and see if that improves matters. I think all the SAABS you got in the US had turbos, but here in the UK some of the lower spec models had NA engines. Mine's the top of the range Aero which has a modest tune for extra giggles!

  • @RedNeckerboyz26
    @RedNeckerboyz26 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a 2001 Chevy Tahoe 5.3 doing the same thing Can't wait till further videos

    • @jimdavidson5208
      @jimdavidson5208 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have that cylinder deactivation crap on your engine? Goes to V-4 or V-6 at a stop light? If so that is the oil issue.

  • @SoldouttotheTruth
    @SoldouttotheTruth 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have the same car and problem. The problem is it was made in Fremont, California, and not Japan!

  • @derekwochnick2869
    @derekwochnick2869 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Based on your first video, and this video, the top down worked better on the pistons that were down lower and unstuck the rings in cylinder 1 and 4 and didn't in 2 and 3 so redo top down on 2 and three with the pistons.lower

  • @BigEightiesNewWave
    @BigEightiesNewWave 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing warm pressure difference.

  • @stanwardoshiro
    @stanwardoshiro ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe Berryman Chem Tool in the combustion chamber and soak for a few days. I use that to decrud pistons with gunked up oil control rings on my last engine rebuild. Worked wonders and it was quick too

  • @brianshanahan3878
    @brianshanahan3878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I just picked up a 2001 Corolla with this insane oil consumption issue. I will be doing the seafoam thing soon. PS the day I purchased the car I installed a new OEM PCV valve.

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So sorry, Brian. Hope you have some good results. Someone mentioned they run half a bottle of Seafoam in their Corolla crankcase all the time (not just the 300 recommended miles) and it has almost eliminated their oil consumption problem.

    • @ScottOstr
      @ScottOstr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Update?

    • @DougHinVA
      @DougHinVA 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a 2000 Corolla with just over 300K trouble free miles and have some oil burning, but do NOT assume the problem is the piston rings... it may be elsewhere !

    • @prcc8793
      @prcc8793 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They came with that issue from factory, just upgrade new piston and rings..you will good to go..trust me

  • @girohead
    @girohead 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just stumbled on this again, I see someone else mentioned Lucas. I had done that about 50k miles ago, and was fine and forgot about but now my same generation Rolla is burning about 1/4 qt like 1000+ miles, not bad and I just top off but I've got a jug of sea foam to I'm going to try it in the oil. I'm just about to turn 200k miles!

  • @randywl8925
    @randywl8925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your approach to the compression and oil consumption issues.
    Did you do the Seafoam treatment by putting it in your oil?
    If not, a friend suggested not just driving normally, but doing some hard pulls. Not just that, but. Driving down some steep hills at decent revs, using compression braking in low gear. That reverses the loading on the compression and oil rings. I did both mid to high rpms up some hills in low gear, then back down a bunch of steep hills, compression braking in low gear.
    Only thing I didn't do, is before and after compression tests.
    Yes, my oil was dirty afterwards.
    Great stuff your coming up with.
    Mine is a 1988 4.3 in an S10 pickup.

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I tried it in the oil, and down the spark plug holes.

  • @mikethompson3534
    @mikethompson3534 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about pouring in lacquer thinner and automatic transmission fluid in the cylinders while the engine is warm and let it sit for several days topping it off as needed for several days then change the oil and filter again and see if that helps

  • @ralph9987
    @ralph9987 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    try taking rhe I let manifold off and having g a look in there?
    also add an oil catch can!

  • @peterlai9018
    @peterlai9018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a late reply and I just subscribed. Have you tried Berryman for cylinder 2 and 3? I too have an oil burning Matrix.

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Peter. Haven't tried Berryman yet, but will keep that in mind.

  • @dret385
    @dret385 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try Kreen engine flush , I have a 2008 Honda Accord that burns about a quart every 4k miles and I am going to try Kreen at my next oil change.

  • @MattJonesYT
    @MattJonesYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Also Ratchets and Wrenches says that Liquid Moly works for this type of thing. Might be worth a test.

  • @edmonddebourbon8543
    @edmonddebourbon8543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You should put oil in and see if the compretion comes up this will tell you if its rings or valves

    • @bartsprengelmeijer4825
      @bartsprengelmeijer4825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How so ?

    • @randywl8925
      @randywl8925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@bartsprengelmeijer4825 Adding a small amount of oil can seal the rings better, thus increasing compression.
      Adding oil will not affect the valves this way.
      If adding a tiny bit of oil doesn't improve compression, that would indicate a valve not sealing.

  • @carlodonnell146
    @carlodonnell146 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I also think that after driving it the cyls are then wet with oil, while when it was cold the oil had drained away leaving dry cyls.

  • @TruthIsFinal
    @TruthIsFinal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My 09 Matrix is also burning oil. I will check compression as well.Then will also pour atf or mystery oil down the plug holes to soak.

  • @Shumayal
    @Shumayal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this update, I have noticed my Toyota 7A FE engine (1994 Celica) smoke if I push it over 2K RPM when cold...but as soon as it gets hot, I can rev it higher with no issues! However, I noticed that I burn more oil (instant huge cloud) if I accelerate after engine braking.
    Did you try this test too? (Engine braking down a mountain and then accelerate). Do you see any visible smoke? Also since this is a follow up video, I assume the seafoam didn't help? Didn't you already pour it in before? Is there any thing better than seafoam to be poured into the spark plug?

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven't tried an engine braking test like you're talking about. I might do that. The Seafoam seems to have helped some, but the oil burning is still excessive. Down from about a quart in 320 miles to a quart in 500+ miles. We'll see how these next experiments go. I was able to drive the car over 500 miles without letting it cool down to see if I burned less oil when the engine was warm. The results were surprising. I hope to publish a video on that very soon. Thanks for the comment, Ahmad!

  • @florenbaron7111
    @florenbaron7111 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My engine only shakes after warming up. Can someone tell me what it might be? I know there are some smart people here. The vehicle barley moves when pressing the gas, smoke or steam coming out of the exhaust pipe, etc. The water pump went bad and I replaced it. I think I had a blown head gasket. I used gasket sealer and the smoke reduced almost completely but when I first turn the vehicle on a puff of smoke comes out. No check engine light. The temperature guage does not go up enough when my scan tool shows a much higher temperature. The engine is knocking. When I remove the upstream oxygen sensors I hear something like clunking or air quickly releasing from the exhaust valve when it shouldn't, on the side that shakes the most. Thank you.

  • @GWAYGWAY1
    @GWAYGWAY1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Valve clearance is tight when cold?

  • @carlodonnell146
    @carlodonnell146 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's not just the PCV valve that's a problem it is the whole system; like the valve cover is part of the PCV system. It needs to be removed and cleaned

  • @Denver1976Man
    @Denver1976Man 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    use restore and more seafoam to clean those valves.. i think that will do wonders..im a toyota guy..

  • @BpgaMusic
    @BpgaMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my 01 corolla is starting to become a headache but i do not want to get rid of it i'd rather spend the money to fix it. thanks for your videos!!!!

  • @horaciotello8017
    @horaciotello8017 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wouldn’t discard the head gasket in between cylinder 2 and 3?

  • @charging7
    @charging7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Engine oil consumption can also be as simple as a stuck closed pcv valve

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True, charging7. That's why there's footage of me checking the PCV valve at the end of the video. I filmed that part this winter before doing the compression test. Thanks for the comment.

    • @RayleighCriterion
      @RayleighCriterion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@FamilyFriendlyDIY Just replace the PCV valve, there's no point in cleaning them as they still can malfunction just from age.

    • @00phoenix100
      @00phoenix100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      While the pcv valve would allow oil consumption in a open position, after the car is running, thus creating a wet piston condition, it does not tell much about the compression test that that primarily deals with valve stem seals and piston rings. Your engine valve stem, piston rings or cylinder walls are worn.

    • @carlodonnell146
      @carlodonnell146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RayleighCriterion Another thing I learned about the PCV valve is that it is best to use an OE because the valves are calibrated to each engine.

    • @DougHinVA
      @DougHinVA ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RayleighCriterion yes; they are cheap to buy and easy to replace and cleaning the old one proves nothing...

  • @davidclough3951
    @davidclough3951 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd run MMO in the fuel to try to clean up the moving part in the cylinders.

  • @MattJonesYT
    @MattJonesYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should try something that's based on polyetheramine/PEA such as Gumout because it's supposed to be more effective than seafoam.

    • @dobleu13
      @dobleu13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, seaoam was ok with non-ethanol gas, gumout should get you better results

    • @carlodonnell146
      @carlodonnell146 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have been using gumout now for weeks; put one in the tank on almost every fillup, but I cant comment on how it is doing at this point, but Im glad to hear that it has that PEA thing that you mentioned, I know my cyls/ combustion chamber/ valves are dirty cause I checked them with a borescope too plus all the cyls compression are below 200psi. ; I will have to pull the head eventually, but I am seeing if I can clean it up first...

  • @samerawaragi3041
    @samerawaragi3041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    would it be a blown head gasket as you issue is with 2nd and 3rd cylinder are working together and might be some oil going though it. I once got exhaust from the compression cycle going through the hg and into the coolant causing it to pressurize. but it all depends where it is blown.

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good call-out Samer, but I don't think it is. Both my coolant and oil have no signs of one contaminating the other, and no external leaks either (to speak of). I'm pretty sure the oil drain holes in the pistons are clogged up, so the oil can't be scraped off the cylinder walls, because it has no where to go. But we'll see. Plenty more experiments to go. Thanks for the comment!

    • @samerawaragi3041
      @samerawaragi3041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FamilyFriendlyDIY This guy shows how the oil rings are problematic on subarus engines. Can be same issue on yours as well. It looks like it is a mission impossible to release them once they are stuck in there.... th-cam.com/video/5zKc6IAGvPc/w-d-xo.html

  • @carlodonnell146
    @carlodonnell146 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A leaky injector washing away the oil lube could have caused that very low cyl. ; and it may have been replaced after the damage was done, if it was not still leaking at the time of the video.

  • @craigbadder321
    @craigbadder321 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1 half week ago.i told you to try BG cleanse cleaning inside engine.BG do many things for car.

  • @TheGardenBanBanWorld
    @TheGardenBanBanWorld 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you change the spark plugs ?

  • @1g2002541
    @1g2002541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If it burns that much oil, my guess is that the pistons oil control rings are worn out. Probably need major engine repair. it could be a big project for DIY.

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If it comes down to it, we'll attempt the rings. Thanks again for the comment, Kyle!

    • @girohead
      @girohead 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This generation Rolla is known for this oil consumption due to stuck (not worn) piston rings. The fix is to upgrade to better pistons with better oil relief holes and rings, not just replace worn rings. Like they VVT, the rings, chain and engine are okay with frequent good oil changes, but people use cheap filters or oil or go too long and this generation is known to plug up. I saw a used Mazda once and the guy thought he 'burned oil' so he went to the old myth of using heavier grade. Then couldn't figure out the chain noise. He gunked up the timing chain tensioner so it no long provided tension, so the chain rattled on decel. I should have bought it.

  • @abrarhuda4291
    @abrarhuda4291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Liqui moly works great, my 92 corona 1.8L burned oil not a lot but enough to make me frown. Liqui moly oil smoke stop worked great

  • @ebuzek3648
    @ebuzek3648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Around 200,000 you will need valve seals. Oring on the cam can tensioner will leak. Check your pcv system. Remove the oil cap while its running and see how much blowby you have. I would try berrymans Chem dip in the cylinders as a cleaner. Change the oil and filter afterwards and check compression after you have run it and let it cool off for 24hours.

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the info and tips!

    • @ebuzek3648
      @ebuzek3648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FamilyFriendlyDIY I would drain the oil first until it's completely dry. Then put a clean catch pan under the drain plug. That way whatever comes out you can keep pouring it back in.

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ebuzek3648 that’s a great idea.

  • @pacelalcantara5105
    @pacelalcantara5105 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just by seeing your plugs. Valve seals and guides

    • @Stragunafen
      @Stragunafen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      is there a product for those or just change them?

  • @prcc8793
    @prcc8793 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That toyota model came with pistons rings problems from factory. I used to work on bunch of them..just upgrade new piston rings a good to go

  • @therealspixycat
    @therealspixycat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Or the rings are kind of stuck due to carbon : that goes away when the engine is hot. May be spray in a bit of wd40 and indeed let it soke for a while

  • @numbrenine9414
    @numbrenine9414 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    doing compression test after driving ,if rings are stuck wouldnt they allow oil build up on cylinder walls causing same effect as doing a wet test on a cold engine?..... having simalar problems with my car

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Entirely possible, numbre nine. Thanks for the comment.

  • @RayleighCriterion
    @RayleighCriterion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Toluene is also a good cleaner, but you would have to change the oil after soaking the cylinders because it's a very good solvent but a very poor lubricant.

    • @muneyoz101
      @muneyoz101 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes it did work thanks for your knowledge 🙏

  • @Airman..
    @Airman.. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Your gauge is absolutely inaccurate
    Compression should never go that high even if it's 1k miles old

    • @jimdavidson5208
      @jimdavidson5208 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tell us more. What is the real issue?

    • @elonmust7470
      @elonmust7470 ปีที่แล้ว

      240 lbs of compression is too high for that engine... I have a high compression 12.5:1 4 cylinder that makes juat under 215 lbs.. This isn't a high comp engine.

  • @adeelautosworkshop373
    @adeelautosworkshop373 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well

  • @matthewcalifana488
    @matthewcalifana488 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Carb Cleaner down spark plug holes . let it soak , crank engine without plugs , Before starting / Do NOT crank engine with liquid inside !

    • @mikmik7033
      @mikmik7033 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is the benefit for put carb cleaner inside the cylinder?

  • @MrRoverpilot
    @MrRoverpilot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Classic stuck rings, do exactly what you did with C form but instead get a product called “Shooterz lube“ and if you want to see how well it works take those old spark plugs and put some shooters lube on them and you’ll see a carbon off of the spark plugs. You can do the same thing for the rings.

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for that, MrRoverpilot. I just looked that up and think that really might make an interesting experiment!

    • @MrRoverpilot
      @MrRoverpilot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@FamilyFriendlyDIY My Audi Q5 has over 110,000 miles and was burning over 1 qt for every 350 miles , Would get the Low oil warning light on in 350 miles . Might be 2 qts low . now uses half a qt in 10,000 miles . I introduced the shooters lube after pulling the drain plug and draining the oil , Waited until it ran through engine , poured it back on top the pistons 4 times . I also use AmsOil European formula 5W40.
      also when I change the oil I drain the oil normal then pour an additional quart of fresh oil in on top with the drain plug still removed until it come out looking like fresh oil usually a single qt will do it

    • @douglasberman840
      @douglasberman840 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrRoverpilot Shooters lube solvent or oil?

    • @MrRoverpilot
      @MrRoverpilot ปีที่แล้ว

      @@douglasberman840 solvant

    • @tomadko23
      @tomadko23 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrRoverpilot Hey bro, so the method you used was - Drain all the oil out, then pour the lube on top the piston heads via spark plug holes, wait to drain through engine? i might try this for my audi, would the process lock up the engine in anyway?

  • @plightn
    @plightn ปีที่แล้ว

    Engine Restore will improve compression and reduce oil burning.

  • @howardiko7156
    @howardiko7156 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey I had an idea I used on a 53 chev. Truck. Soak cylinder in carb cleaner then use compresed air direct to cylinder on the tester hose. Blow down.

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What were the results, Howard?

    • @howardiko7156
      @howardiko7156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FamilyFriendlyDIY had bad over fueling lots of carbon compression improved.

  • @eugeniosanchez9600
    @eugeniosanchez9600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Try engine restore, it's an engine oil additive that helps with compression and oil consumption. It worked great on my 71 Ford. Good luck!

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks Eugenio. After reading this, I watched the Project Farm video on Restore. Looks promising. th-cam.com/video/Hr8jIwVyIFE/w-d-xo.html

    • @Shumayal
      @Shumayal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Tee Mack is it possible to remove the pistons from the bottom without taking off the head? I have a Toyota 7A FE oil burner

    • @MrTruthAddict
      @MrTruthAddict 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Shumayal Gotta pull the crank out

    • @maungmaung4037
      @maungmaung4037 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard restore make trouble on vvti. But I did at my 2001 Corolla got great results. Try Xado product it like combination of engine restore and liqud moly crate.

    • @regal953
      @regal953 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Shumayal Negative unless Crankshaft removed

  • @mermaiddreams83
    @mermaiddreams83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Engine restore and Lucus will give you great results!!

  • @okicom
    @okicom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    should do a leak down test to find out the problem

  • @sterlingstephens7093
    @sterlingstephens7093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Possible blown head gasket between cylinder 2 and 3

    • @jimdavidson5208
      @jimdavidson5208 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not with 240psi on 2 and 3 guy. WATCH the video.

  • @sertlilg1071
    @sertlilg1071 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will try engine flush to release the rings

  • @Sunnysky321
    @Sunnysky321 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought you partially resolved your Corolla oil burning problem by Seafoam?

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I did, SunnySky. I went from burning a quart every 320 miles to about every 520 miles. Still pretty bad though ... but I'm still hopeful. Thanks for the comment.

  • @jantelow
    @jantelow 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a way to test if there are worn or broken oil rings? A compression test or leak down test will probably not show the condition of the oil rings.

    • @red_887
      @red_887 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A leak down test would help determine of the piston rings are compromised because you would be able to remove the PCV valve and listen for any leakage emanating from the removed PCV valve opening. You would have to leave the other spark plugs in that you are not testing and you would have to be sure the piston is at TDC so that all intake/exhaust valves are closed for the cylinder being tested. Remember, this would leave several other cylinders with valves that are in a mixed state of open/close. The leaking air should follow the path of least resistance, which is past the rings and out through the PCV opening via the engine head. A leak down test may show multiple points of air escaping. If the air is coming out of the PCV opening, it indicates a potential problem of the cylinder rings. How much? Well, other issues would have to be ruled out ,like cracked head, bad head gasket, open valve when at TDC...... The whole idea behind a leakdown test is for the pressure to stabilize during the test. If the pressure doesn't stabilize, you have potential issues in potentially multiple places.

    • @dasun2960
      @dasun2960 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@red_887 just got a compression and leakdown test done in my 2008 2.0 mazda 3. All 180psi in all 4 cylinders, 2% leakage in 3 cylinders and around 5% in 1 but it may have been off TDC so results didn't come out bad. However, I'm burning oil 1quart per 1000km with zero smoke. There is some crankcase pressure felt when oil filler cap is opened but no smoke. Hoping it's my pcv valve but no leaks except for a bit from the valve cover gasket in the 2 middle cylinders ( less than 10000km since valve cover gasket was replaced). I'll do the gasket again too but it's an old engine at 258k km.

  • @1g2002541
    @1g2002541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey. If you're still trying to save it, try 'piston bath' with some fuel system cleaner or oil addictive. Something has PEA in it. It's proven to clean carbon. But be sure to do research on how to soak pistons. Mishandling could lock up the engine.
    Also, other youtubers see great result from liqui mody engine restore. It could be worth a try

  • @duckflynn3849
    @duckflynn3849 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When doing a compression test if one or more cylinders comes up low immediately pour a tablespoon or two of motor oil in the cylinder via the spark plug hole and retest the compression. If the compression rises immediately then you know your rings are bad if it doesn't rise then it's your valves.

  • @whatposterman1222
    @whatposterman1222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tried it all in my 4.3 engine to no avail. I found no magic cure for unreasonable oil consumption. Did in truck valve stem seals with rope in cylinder trick and compressing valve springs, etc. nothing would cure it short of yanking engine.

  • @jeffgrantIS350
    @jeffgrantIS350 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you ever put a Bore scope down into.... a
    nearly empty gas tank...? I'm intrested in seeing what sediments are floating around. Obviously not inserting it into fuel. My 007 Lexus IS350 has 171,400 miles. And I'm seriously considering changing the fuel filter.

  • @aleemreehanabanu3635
    @aleemreehanabanu3635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Valve clearance would be my personal perspective about your issue.

    • @nogitsaro
      @nogitsaro ปีที่แล้ว +1

      too tight keeps valve open, can cause low compression

  • @bobbyboothang9275
    @bobbyboothang9275 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's all the white build up on the plugs?

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's typically just called "ash," Bobby. Not sure exactly what the deposits are made of, but the whiter it is, usually the leaner the engine is running. They used to say a properly tuned engine would have "tan" electrodes on the spark plugs.

  • @namenotshown9277
    @namenotshown9277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    lets say its the oil holes behind the rings that are clogged up with hard crud, seafoam not dissolving it cause its temperature
    hardened crud. In that case the clogged oil return holes ( behind the rings) will mean there is more oil going past the rings
    into the cylinders as its not being drained back to the pan via the inside of the piston.
    In that case it is possible that piston 1 and 4 might actually be the bad pistons, they are showing
    high compression due to the excess oil remaining in the cylinder making a better seal at cold start.
    Wheres lets say oil drain holes are still clear in cylinders 2 and 3, then less oil in the cylinder and they "appear" at start up to have low compression.
    Not trying to put you off, just making suggestion to explain the results. I have been trying to clear oil drain holes a toyota eninge using seafoam in engine oil for maybe a year or more now, bottom up approach with no success, I intend to keep adding seafoam for however long it takes, using about same amount of oil you are. Its just for the sake of seeing if it will work over very long term, a bit of extra oil use means you will have clean oil all the time pretty much, cat converter though will be working pretty hard to convert all that oil via the exhaust.

    • @namenotshown9277
      @namenotshown9277 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have wondered if its possible to drill out somehow the oil holes by taking off the sump
      and getting access to the under side of the pistons ( rather then take out whole engine), would be really nice if there is a way to clear those holes while pistons remain in situ.
      Apparently that crud is really hard after being held at high temps for long periods.
      Quite a few vids showing people clearning out those holes after pistons removed.

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually wondered the same thing. Like maybe seeing if I could get something up there, like an angled pick, to scrape them out. Thanks for the comments.

  • @tomasnokechtesledger1786
    @tomasnokechtesledger1786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Head Gasket ruptured between cylinders 2 & 3, leaking oil and cold compression. See adjacents?

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is an interesting hypothesis. But wouldn't they have low compression whether hot or cold? And isn't it likely I'd be loosing coolant somewhere too?

    • @tomasnokechtesledger1786
      @tomasnokechtesledger1786 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FamilyFriendlyDIY Depends where the rupture is, theres the water gallery and theres the oil galley, if the HG ruptures close to the oil line craved in the head, you gonna have oil injestion into the near cylinder by the huge oil pressure you get there, especially at cold viscous oil. The expansion of the HD and the Head itself may keep the cylinder more compression sealed. JMT. I would advise you to not use Restore yet, because the metals on it will embbed in your rod bearings making things ugly and your cylinder liners are like new with crosshatches and all, not needing Restore at all. And the rings, prolly like new too. You could try moly MOS2, if it cooks around the rupture, you may cure the HG.

  • @regal953
    @regal953 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    May I say to you that 240psi is way too high for a gas engine, ok for Diesel..1ZZ-FE is a 10:1 compression ratio, so 150psi readings are about normal...roughly. Kerosene or GM top cleaner...

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The book says it should be 218 psi. My gauge is probably off. The lowest it should be according to the book is 145 psi.

    • @budlanctot3060
      @budlanctot3060 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maybe it is higher than normal because of so much carbon in the combustion chamber. I'm surprised it's not detonating prematurely. If it is, the knock sensors must be retarding the ignition timing a lot in an attempt to avoid preignition.

  • @half_r_mk5
    @half_r_mk5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was this before putting Seafoam or after?

  • @carlodonnell146
    @carlodonnell146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    actually the new plugs may prevent fouling because the old plugs may not be getting hot enough to burn off the oil if they are bad and that could be why they keep fouling. Just a thought.

  • @doitmyself2557
    @doitmyself2557 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's because that 100 Shot of NOS almost blew the welds off the intake. Now you will have to rip apart the block and replace the piston rings you fried!

  • @akaitv6606
    @akaitv6606 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    140psi 8:1 comp
    160psi 9:1 comp
    180psi 10:1 comp
    200psi 11:1 comp
    220psi 12:1 comp
    High readings are not good either those cylinders that are high have oil contamination excessive carbon

  • @preventingboredom4418
    @preventingboredom4418 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Or the rings r just worn out cause the center cylinders usually run a little hotter

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yikes. I suppose that’s possible. Thanks for the comment.

  • @jorgezuni2818
    @jorgezuni2818 ปีที่แล้ว

    Piston rings or piston sleeves. Been worn

  • @ironfistarrival
    @ironfistarrival 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe you got to open your head cylinder and check the Valves and Pistons up close ...

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment, Lennox. Got a glimpse of the pistons in this video ... th-cam.com/video/A398v3j67Jw/w-d-xo.html

  • @elonmust7470
    @elonmust7470 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    250lbs??? Something seems off about that

  • @carlodonnell146
    @carlodonnell146 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like me you forgot to open the throttle while doing the compression test?

  • @garry2280
    @garry2280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Valve seals! It’s not the rings your compression is fine.

    • @Nick-GR
      @Nick-GR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Compression rings is a different thing than oil control rings. You can have good compression and still burn oil.

  • @eddiebarrera469
    @eddiebarrera469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got my rings unstuck ,cylinder two and three. took oil out and left oilpan bolt off,lowered the two middle cylinders all the way down,filled with gas ,and let sit 24 hrs ,then boiled water as hot as possible and poured that in the next day,and lord and behold it unstuck em.car running great now.

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So no oil burning now, Eddie?

    • @eddiebarrera469
      @eddiebarrera469 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FamilyFriendlyDIY had 90 psi compression on cylinder 2 ,,,,,,150 on cylinder 3 ,and 180 on 1 and 4.Had cylinder head redone,and checked valves while head was off with the cams on and valves were perfect.

    • @eddiebarrera469
      @eddiebarrera469 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FamilyFriendlyDIY with the oil pan bolt off,and cylinders full of gas it was dripping pretty heavy thru the bottom.After the cleaning, their wasn't a single drop coming out of the oil pan plug.

  • @cameronhiggins5040
    @cameronhiggins5040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You might want to check your brake fluid, its very dark...

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah. If I can get the thing to stop using oil, I'll probably flush the brake lines among some other maintenance. Thanks for the comment, Cameron!

  • @dirtcurt1
    @dirtcurt1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting. My 2007 Camry manual says 1 quart for 600 miles is OK. That's about what it burns until you get on the highway, then it burns 1/4 of a Quart every 2000 miles! Mine never got the new rings on a recall.

    • @jamesroark9329
      @jamesroark9329 ปีที่แล้ว

      2.4 2007 Camry do have ring problems, I have one with only 112000 miles on it ...

  • @carlodonnell146
    @carlodonnell146 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    those little fuse tools dont work well at all.

  • @Goshi0Mac
    @Goshi0Mac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why didnt you do a wet test? Its like a mystery to me I addition to what's messed up in your car. I know you not a mechanic but you could try changing a few seals on the top of the crank case. It's a 20 min job if your plugs are wet and tips of coils are wet that's a big sign you oil is being lost there also if not entirely.

  • @hermanrogers1325
    @hermanrogers1325 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Check pcv

  • @81keyholder
    @81keyholder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Empty the engine oil out, put 3/4 back in, then put a 1/4 of diesel in. That will act as a flush, cleaner , all whilst lubricating everything.

    • @jimdavidson5208
      @jimdavidson5208 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not today's Diesel. It's so stripped out of oil, not even funny. Old Diesel was a great solvent cleaner. Now this low sulfur on road crap is terrible for cleaning carbon, compared to old Diesel. I still use Diesel to clean oily greasy parts. Nothing better nor cheaper.

  • @627horsepowers
    @627horsepowers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Italian tune up?

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's an interesting idea. I actually flogged it quite a bit after the last oil change to see if that would make a difference. Didn't seem to. Near the end of this video by Engineering Explained, he mentions blow-by being increased by the Italian tune-up which could actually cause more deposits to form th-cam.com/video/5C9Ie4BcYew/w-d-xo.html But it's certainly another thing to consider/debate.

  • @carlodonnell146
    @carlodonnell146 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    they need replacing for sure

  • @robertbeach7859
    @robertbeach7859 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do a leak down

  • @heydonray
    @heydonray ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t assume. Do the wet compression test when cold anyway.

  • @HerbZilla
    @HerbZilla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    stuck valves my friend holy molly 250 psi is near to blowing your motor

    • @HerbZilla
      @HerbZilla 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you need to heat soak seafoam in your throttle body immediately

    • @HerbZilla
      @HerbZilla 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you need to heatsoak with seafoam before your engine blows man. Trust me it will work

    • @jimdavidson5208
      @jimdavidson5208 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HerbZilla Seafoam is a joke. This guys does a video on it. So many others prove it too. Rislone and GM AC Delco engine treatment are the best.

  • @thebombperformancechannel9087
    @thebombperformancechannel9087 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dona leak down test it will tell you if it’s piston or valve

  • @jamesyarbrough4777
    @jamesyarbrough4777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    look up kano labs kreen. do a piston soak. add it to the oil and the fuel.

    • @FamilyFriendlyDIY
      @FamilyFriendlyDIY  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting stuff. I see that it's illegal in California ... must be pretty good ;-)

  • @1mw4tch1ng
    @1mw4tch1ng 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are WAY WAY overdue for spark plug replacement. the saving you get from not replacing costs more on fuel consumption.

  • @jessieharbinjr.6589
    @jessieharbinjr.6589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pull the engine, and put new rings in.

    • @jimdavidson5208
      @jimdavidson5208 ปีที่แล้ว

      Riiiight. Car is not worth that guy.

  • @MrSlugbait
    @MrSlugbait 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    THOSE PLUGS SAY WORN OUT RINGS

  • @juanlydell
    @juanlydell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you are noticing blue smoke from the exhaust, it means your engine is burning oil due to an oil leak. This symptom could be the result of a leaking valve seal or a problem with a piston ring. That escaped oil can then mix with the fuel and burn as the fuel burns. Therefore it doesn't look like you have that problem with your compression rings or oil rings. Those spark plugs looked very bad. Stop being cheap and change the spark plugs, PVC valve and also check your valve cover and oil pan for oil leaks. It"s a good chance your loosing oil from those area and not burning oil.

  • @jrchelo75
    @jrchelo75 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kano Labs Kreen

  • @DougHinVA
    @DougHinVA ปีที่แล้ว

    Buy a new PCV valve and install it and skip testing the old one or cleaning it. The click may be there and the PCV valve still not working right...Low cost and simple to do. Do NOT assume the problem is the piston rings (3rd one down) but instead the valve seals (2 in and 2 out on a 4 cylinder small engine like a Corolla or Civic or other small engine... Some chemicals may be a lot cheaper than 'fixing the problem' ... and awful non-music, BTW.

  • @nicejoe1000
    @nicejoe1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your compression should stay the same weather the motor is hot or cold. the rings need to be replace and probably the pistons as well have skirt damage and wear.

  • @krod2162
    @krod2162 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sorry you have to face it that engine is shot get it out of there

  • @HowardJrFord
    @HowardJrFord 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those cars are too ugly to bother with swapping in another engine . i would just get rid of it .

  • @peterhandelson1193
    @peterhandelson1193 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spray a touch of silicone lubricant on those plastic coil connectors.

  • @jayliel5454
    @jayliel5454 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go and get yourself a bag of onion rings!

  • @rondhole
    @rondhole 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The solution is sell it

    • @jimdavidson5208
      @jimdavidson5208 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or do the right things as he is by fixing it proper. Don't pass it along to someone else. No integrity guy......

    • @rondhole
      @rondhole ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimdavidson5208 Yes, if it is a worthy car. Corolla 1998-2002 is not worth to be fixed. It is basically junk, crusty interior, crusty rusty body, and it just has no value. It is meant to be in junkyard anyway as a scarp metal. Civic or Sentra at that period is much better. The 2003 - 2008 Corolla is a legend, very durable and much better quality interior and rust protection too. In the market 1992-1997 Corolla worth more than 98-02 Corolla even without VVTI.

  • @carlo552decarlo6
    @carlo552decarlo6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wasting your time. The only thing that will fix it is rings and drill out oil holes under oil rings or replace pistons. Trust me, I know

  • @joeramirez7879
    @joeramirez7879 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sell it and buy a Honda or Acura