This is a yellow card for me. Even when it's an unsportsmanship foul, it has some intention on playing the ball. Not a non-card for me, but of course this is not a red card foul.
I feel like it was some sort of exhibition game, like the stakes weren't too high. I can see a YC to tone down the vibe of the game at that point, but its a borderline YC for that foul. in a normal setting, NO WAY is that a RC.
It’s not for the foul so much as the constant unsportsmanlike conduct but I agree with you it should v been a yellow card for the foul, If he’s running about daft like an idiot he could of booked him again for his next foul and he was gone, I don’t think it’s right a ref sends someone off cos he thinks the guy was going to keep doing it but also it’s there way of getting control of the game before someone really gets hurt
This is an absurd red card. The tempers seemed to slowly increase between both teams. If the ref acted one minute before by gathering both captains, and telling them to calm down, it would have been more efficient and sufficient. Despite to do that, he wrongly penalized one team
He did appear to be only attempting to sweep the legs of the attacker, so I get what concerned the referee. But I also would have given only a yellow - short of some unusual context that wasn't captured by this footage (history of the carded player jawing/taunting/threatening the fouled player).
The only way this is red is if the player is on a caution and is being cautioned again for persistent infringement of the Laws. If that's not what happened, I'm baffled.
In which case the referee should have shown yellow (to indicate 2nd caution) followed by red. A red card should only be shown on its own for a standalone sending off offence.
What's your thoughts on number 3's tackle 10seconds into the video? For me from those 2 tackles alone it's minimum yellow and a good talking to, if that hasn't already happened elsewhere like you're eluding to. He's pushing the limits with every tackle, if the ref let's it keep going it will get worse.
Yeah, that's just a yellow. Kind of an odd reason to send someone off when he was clearly intending to get the ball there. Reasonable reaction from the crowd for once, but that was kind of a dumb way to attempt to get the ball.
He may have already had a warning. When I played amatuer football, refs didn't like to give out yellows because they knew the players would have to pay a fine.
maybe its different in the uk but we pay fines for yellows and reds infact what was given in this video is the biggest fine you can be given a straight red card.
i think the reason that he was sent off for a straight red was because he had multiple warnings and continued to do so i referee myself so i can see where the ref is coming from but normally this is a yellow
Even with warnings, a similar foul is never worth a red card. If he had warned him continuously before, he should have just given him a yellow before. The only way I can see a red card given in a similar context is when an unsportsmanlike behavior is clearly seen from the player like swearing, pushing the opponent, clapping the referee sarcastically, etc. But then again, that's why this is an amateur league and he's an amateur referee.
The rules state "Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard of the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent:a player who plays in a reckless manner shall be cautioned." i.e. yellow card, clearly this situation here. But, we don't know if this was the player's second caution, an automatic red. On the other hand, there referee, who was, after all a lot closer to the play than we armchair folks, might have apply "Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent:a player who uses excessive force shall be sent off." Refs have wide latitude. (I was a FIFA ref for 10 years.) We discussed the application of those two rules over and over in clinics. It's rarely clear-cut
it was a straight red, shown by showing the red, and no yellow before it. You were not a ref for 10 years, if your suggesting that it cold have been for excessive force. Where do you claim to have been a ref in exactly and when ? PS FIFA does not govern referees. FIFA require that every referee needs to be registered, what age where you when you started refereeing games?
It's funny how you can tell that these people are American even with the sound off, simply because they all look like this is their first time touching a ball with their feet.
@@makombi32 In all honesty, even if he knows the situation is getting heated, I would still give out a yellow at most and not a straight red because that will make the situation worse even when the tackle itself was yellow worthy.
I don’t know much about soccer (especially from the referee’s perspective) but I don’t think that should’ve been even a yellow card. If anyone reads this who knows more who thinks otherwise I’m open for discussion
As a referee: I think that should be a YC. The challenge was very late, with no chance to get the ball. He essentially hooked the player's legs with the ball a few feet away. It's a cynical challenge.
Intentional trip. He rotates his body 90 degrees and plants his foot in front of the other player's and puts both hands on his back to push him down. He wasn't trying to play the ball otherwise he wouldn't have turned his body 90 degrees before he initiates contact. A lot of context is not available and that could have changed a lot, but just by this video, it was chippy already and the ref was letting too much go and needed to get the game back under control. I think I would have gone yellow and issued a warning to both teams that this ends now or penalties and probably cards are going to come rapidly.
There was no intent to win the ball. Depending on what was developing before the video, for instance, if the player had been warned, it does make a difference. On seeing it w/o that info a yellow and a verbal warning might have been appropriate, but the intent to trip? There is no question about that.
wow that's really not even a yellow unless he has done several fouls. It was a careless tackle. Nothing about that goes under law 12 for a straight red...
How is this a red? He at least tried to get around the player and get the ball, yellow at most. But from watching the stuff happening before the red card, I can say that the ref lost control over the game. There was a lot of frustration on both teams which is dangerous and the ref should have given a yellow or a freekick before
0:59 For those who say that this was just yellow: he attempted to injure the opponent by stepping (or even jumping) to it. I have no idea how you watched this video.
@@jakes658 I have played a lot. And I know that a football player never raises his leg up that high and never puts it down to the ground that fast just to not fall down.
@@sarbasov That's a foul but only yellow just to calm the game down. Your assessment is ridiculous. The ball was right there and he barely touched him.
@@sarbasov That wasn't an attempt to step on him. He simply stepped over him. What are you watching? There wasn't much there at all. That's why the red card was overturned and this video was the evidence to make that decision...
The only purpose this video was posted for was a appeal/review...i was videotaping the player that received the red card. This small portion of video was used to appeal the call. The call was overturned. It was never put up for debate, yet for a parent that paid me as I do highlight reels. I was paid to follow #3. Not the game.
I understand why a straight red was given. There was no attempt to play the ball, a two-handed push/takedown from behind, and a history of Black 3 being a jerk in this game. That said, I would have given a yellow for the foul by Black 3.
I would be curious to know if the player was already on a yellow card and the red was from a second yellow ?. No way on earth that should have been a straight red card, shit I have had a lot worse tackles on me that I didn't even get a free kick lol
It could be a yellow just for UB or for PI too. Maybe this was #3's third foul. Definitely not a red though. No SFP or VC, no spitting, biting, and all that nonsense here.
This is a yellow card for me. Even when it's an unsportsmanship foul, it has some intention on playing the ball. Not a non-card for me, but of course this is not a red card foul.
I agree👍🏼
I feel like it was some sort of exhibition game, like the stakes weren't too high. I can see a YC to tone down the vibe of the game at that point, but its a borderline YC for that foul. in a normal setting, NO WAY is that a RC.
not even remotely trying for the ball... no
he tried to stomp him!!!!! are you blind?
Agree
Boy that is soft. Tinkerbell tackles harder then that
Don’t tread on me
Ikr
Honestly tho
It’s not for the foul so much as the constant unsportsmanlike conduct but I agree with you it should v been a yellow card for the foul, If he’s running about daft like an idiot he could of booked him again for his next foul and he was gone, I don’t think it’s right a ref sends someone off cos he thinks the guy was going to keep doing it but also it’s there way of getting control of the game before someone really gets hurt
For neymar this is a hard tackle
This is an absurd red card. The tempers seemed to slowly increase between both teams.
If the ref acted one minute before by gathering both captains, and telling them to calm down, it would have been more efficient and sufficient. Despite to do that, he wrongly penalized one team
Classic Americans bro
@UColLQa4x_YcXruZeJbCB2zw fucking idiots pal cant stand them
The only way I can think of why a red card was issued was if the referee though he stamped on his leg after the fact
Or maybe he already had a yellow card.
I lold at the "Three, get out of here" from the ref 🤣🤣🤣
I think he said "Three, you're outta here" - but agree, was a great line! 🤣🤣
This video clip was used to over turn the call... It was over turned... So, yes, it was a bad call...
He did appear to be only attempting to sweep the legs of the attacker, so I get what concerned the referee. But I also would have given only a yellow - short of some unusual context that wasn't captured by this footage (history of the carded player jawing/taunting/threatening the fouled player).
WAIT WHAT DO YOU MEAN OVERTURNED
@Thack Oh, I got you, I thought it was overturned on the pitch.
The only way this is red is if the player is on a caution and is being cautioned again for persistent infringement of the Laws. If that's not what happened, I'm baffled.
In which case the referee should have shown yellow (to indicate 2nd caution) followed by red.
A red card should only be shown on its own for a standalone sending off offence.
Looks like the ref forgot his yellow card at home and only red was available :)
Thought it wouldve been a double yellow but he went straight for red.
We have no idea what the context is here, folks. Did #3 already get warned? Had the captains been warned? The coaches?
What's your thoughts on number 3's tackle 10seconds into the video? For me from those 2 tackles alone it's minimum yellow and a good talking to, if that hasn't already happened elsewhere like you're eluding to. He's pushing the limits with every tackle, if the ref let's it keep going it will get worse.
Ref to Blue: Bro stop, Or I'll do nothing about it.
Ref to black: UH NUH, NUMBER 3 YOURE GONE.
Yeah, that's just a yellow. Kind of an odd reason to send someone off when he was clearly intending to get the ball there. Reasonable reaction from the crowd for once, but that was kind of a dumb way to attempt to get the ball.
Weeks later, both teams would meet at the Blue Oyster Club.
He may have already had a warning. When I played amatuer football, refs didn't like to give out yellows because they knew the players would have to pay a fine.
maybe its different in the uk but we pay fines for yellows and reds infact what was given in this video is the biggest fine you can be given a straight red card.
i think the reason that he was sent off for a straight red was because he had multiple warnings and continued to do so i referee myself so i can see where the ref is coming from but normally this is a yellow
Even with warnings, a similar foul is never worth a red card. If he had warned him continuously before, he should have just given him a yellow before. The only way I can see a red card given in a similar context is when an unsportsmanlike behavior is clearly seen from the player like swearing, pushing the opponent, clapping the referee sarcastically, etc. But then again, that's why this is an amateur league and he's an amateur referee.
HE GOTTA TAKE CLASSES FROM "RAMOS"
Bloody hell that’s an awful call, it’s a clumsy tackle - not even a yellow - to give a red is ridiculous!
If that's a red card than the sky isn't blue
At least the cameraman got it on camera. …
Not even a yellow. Maybe if he's already have a talking-to for previous offences.
The rules state "Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard of the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent:a player who plays in a reckless manner shall be cautioned." i.e. yellow card, clearly this situation here. But, we don't know if this was the player's second caution, an automatic red. On the other hand, there referee, who was, after all a lot closer to the play than we armchair folks, might have apply "Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent:a player who uses excessive force shall be sent off." Refs have wide latitude. (I was a FIFA ref for 10 years.) We discussed the application of those two rules over and over in clinics. It's rarely clear-cut
no you wasnt you never ref for fifa mate
it was a straight red, shown by showing the red, and no yellow before it. You were not a ref for 10 years, if your suggesting that it cold have been for excessive force. Where do you claim to have been a ref in exactly and when ? PS FIFA does not govern referees. FIFA require that every referee needs to be registered, what age where you when you started refereeing games?
Red card for that?! Not even close to being a yellow!
Think his mouth got em the red, listen closely
Ref caused the problem. Poor reffing led to player frustration. Not a red either. Yellow at worst.
only thing i can think of is maybe he thought he had stamped on him. from his angle. the tackle was a caution
That's not a red. Given the physicality of the game, I don't even know if I give a yellow.
It's funny how you can tell that these people are American even with the sound off, simply because they all look like this is their first time touching a ball with their feet.
does #10 have a rat tail?
It seems like the only people in America who know the rules of football are the referees XD
Only if the player was on a yellow card I would know that
it gets worse hes now a top flight ref in scotland!
I refed for 7 years that's a yellow!
It should be a yellow at most since it’s enough contact for the card and it’s stopping an attack, but no way on earth is that a red.
I suppose he thought he stamped on his leg when landing, it was getting heated after all. Still he shouldn't give anything if he's not sure.
@@makombi32 In all honesty, even if he knows the situation is getting heated, I would still give out a yellow at most and not a straight red because that will make the situation worse even when the tackle itself was yellow worthy.
I would not even given a yellow, unless it was "persistent infringement"...
From the looks of the game there was persistent infringement all over the field.
my thoughts exactly
I don’t know much about soccer (especially from the referee’s perspective) but I don’t think that should’ve been even a yellow card. If anyone reads this who knows more who thinks otherwise I’m open for discussion
As a referee: I think that should be a YC. The challenge was very late, with no chance to get the ball. He essentially hooked the player's legs with the ball a few feet away. It's a cynical challenge.
Straight red😂😂
Could have been a second yellow of camera?
That is hilarious.
high probability for injuries and wasnt even close to the ball, so unsportsmanlike conduct, def a red card, because its probably not his first foul...
Serious foul play? Violent conduct? Dogso?
Intentional trip. He rotates his body 90 degrees and plants his foot in front of the other player's and puts both hands on his back to push him down. He wasn't trying to play the ball otherwise he wouldn't have turned his body 90 degrees before he initiates contact. A lot of context is not available and that could have changed a lot, but just by this video, it was chippy already and the ref was letting too much go and needed to get the game back under control. I think I would have gone yellow and issued a warning to both teams that this ends now or penalties and probably cards are going to come rapidly.
no wonder they say that football is not a contact sport because of these 🤡🤡🤡...
There was no intent to win the ball. Depending on what was developing before the video, for instance, if the player had been warned, it does make a difference. On seeing it w/o that info a yellow and a verbal warning might have been appropriate, but the intent to trip? There is no question about that.
It's a foul. The ref should have thrown a yellow or two in the build up to this foul. A red card was way over the top.
wow that's really not even a yellow unless he has done several fouls. It was a careless tackle. Nothing about that goes under law 12 for a straight red...
a straight red? did he injure a 2 year old or sumn? maximum yellow that's absolutely embarrassing
Yellow. Even if he was a jerk. You give the yellow because, if he follows this path, he'll do it again...then it's a red
Perhaps the red was for an attempted stamp? That would be a fair call if he saw it that way... Difficult to say
No attempted stamp, tbh.
he clearly tried that.... red card
@@marceloevera2009 It's barely a foul...
@@jakes658 he tried to stomp...
@@marceloevera2009 No he didn't. He clearly stepped over him. The red card was rescinded after review of this video.
Again, it's barely a foul...
Counted about 5 mistakes this ref made in a minute. This guy is a clown.
Anyone know what level this is? Some good players there
Prob U16 or U17 Club football
for me that's a yellow I dont see much contact that could make the player fall
CLEAR IMAGE ?? Hehehe
horrible ref. Normal foul in non dangerous position with placed defence. Not brutal nor tactical. Never red card.
tenían que ser gringos jajajajaja aquí en Argentina ni siquiera es amarilla eso
When Americans try and play football
this referee is now a police officer
Not even a yellow card
Not even a single fuckin yellow card
That's not even a yellow card. Anyone who disagrees needs to find another sport to be honest.
Oo
I could almost see this if it was just the one side being rough and tumble.
It’s actually painful watching Americans play football
That’s not even a yellow card
Even the opposing team was confused 😂
i dont blame the ref because there was no way he was going for the ball there he just swiped his legs out
It's barely a foul...
Thats a yellow at the absolute most
Menos fútbol que Utilisima los gringos
Shocking decision 🤣
How is this a red? He at least tried to get around the player and get the ball, yellow at most. But from watching the stuff happening before the red card, I can say that the ref lost control over the game. There was a lot of frustration on both teams which is dangerous and the ref should have given a yellow or a freekick before
0:59 For those who say that this was just yellow: he attempted to injure the opponent by stepping (or even jumping) to it. I have no idea how you watched this video.
You've clearly never played this game in your life...
@@jakes658 I have played a lot. And I know that a football player never raises his leg up that high and never puts it down to the ground that fast just to not fall down.
@@sarbasov That's a foul but only yellow just to calm the game down. Your assessment is ridiculous. The ball was right there and he barely touched him.
@@jakes658 the red card was not about the ball or about touching. It was about injury attempt when the opponent was on the ground.
@@sarbasov That wasn't an attempt to step on him. He simply stepped over him. What are you watching? There wasn't much there at all. That's why the red card was overturned and this video was the evidence to make that decision...
The only purpose this video was posted for was a appeal/review...i was videotaping the player that received the red card. This small portion of video was used to appeal the call. The call was overturned.
It was never put up for debate, yet for a parent that paid me as I do highlight reels. I was paid to follow #3. Not the game.
why did you followed #3?
Americans trying to play football is so hard to watch
That not enough to be red card
Sigh - if only the perosn 'filming' had actually filmed whatever happened !!
Alan Deans , the entire game was recorded. This section is what the coach chose to use as an appeal/review. The call was overturned.
QUE LECHES?
I understand why a straight red was given. There was no attempt to play the ball, a two-handed push/takedown from behind, and a history of Black 3 being a jerk in this game. That said, I would have given a yellow for the foul by Black 3.
BS call
Damn American football is soft.
Red card for that ?, sheesh that's a shocking decision, yellow card at most but a lot of refs wouldn't even pull a card out for it
simon boyland, agreed... This video was a clip used to over turn the call... It was reviewed and overturned and player allowed to play next game.
I would be curious to know if the player was already on a yellow card and the red was from a second yellow ?. No way on earth that should have been a straight red card, shit I have had a lot worse tackles on me that I didn't even get a free kick lol
Just watched again, was a straight red so it was an utterly awful decision in my opinion.
I think it’s a foul but no card at all
This is never a straight red
its baaaaaarely a yellow, wtf
Not even a yellow. Pathetic
Maybe yellow, never red.
Was that guy selling burgers last night? How did he end up as a Ref?
Maybe Americans should stick to football not soccer
Goddamn I miss sports
That's the softest red card i've seen 😅
@Fat man eating a pie on the bench football club easy peterborough scored more goal than qpr. also qpr are shit
what the fuck did i just witness. damn these refs give us a bad image, and who gave this guy the job to work the camera? jeez
That is not a straight red card. It's hardly a yellow.
What a shit Standard of football?! It’s like watching Under 5’s!!! Embarrassing
And I assume you'd be waltzing through all of these players and scoring 10 against them yeah?
L'arbitro se droga...
Nope it’s the correct call.....I would’ve done the same thing....you don’t cleat someone from behind
That's not at all what happened...
Hahahahah ref give up now you’re clueless
*класс и привет от тренера по футболу!*
and i thought english refs was bad
Yellow card all day but a straight red is ridiculous.
that isnt even a yellow, u can tell this ref doesn't know what he's doing just by the way he sent him off.
It could be a yellow just for UB or for PI too. Maybe this was #3's third foul. Definitely not a red though. No SFP or VC, no spitting, biting, and all that nonsense here.
@@infinitycauchymean very true, i wasnt thinking about previous possible offences
America is so soft haha
So that was a red but when Giorgio Chiellini fouled Saka it was a yellow?!?!?
Americans 😂
This ref probably never played; that’s not even a yellow