Had to full No-Bark Noonan for this one, so grab your tin foil hats 👽 Huge thanks to Modder Ludo for cracking this quest open and a huge thanks to Modder Trash, LedZepIV, Buzzard and Joen from my discord channel for additional help on this video!
Hey man thanks for making more Fallout videos everytime you uploaded makes my day and I hope you keep doing more of these cut content videos specially New Vegas content every year I binge watch your cut content series, keep up the good work
@@zhitchcresttail3387 why I hate the brotherhood but the outcasts at least respect their forefathers goals instead of helping the wasteland for no justified plausible reason it would have been better to make the "official" brotherhood some other faction with the outcasts being the actual brotherhood chapter in the local area
@@shakeem444 those backward thinkers got their butts handed to them out west with the NCR. Also their first Elder actually wanted any people to join instead of ex military.
The Outcasts aren’t that close to the true BoS. The actual Brotherhood, while reclusive, did still trade openly with the outside world. In Fallout 1, the Crimson Caravan is operating a route to Lost Hills. They even became an R&D house for the NCR until tensions grew between the groups and war erupted. The Outcasts think they’re true to the west, but they’re far from it.
I wish Casdin would have made an appearance in Fallout 4. "To be honest, we got most of our technology from this one Vault kid who just brought scores, and I mean SCORES of Enclave power armor and plasma weapons to us at Fort Independence. Kid always wanted Stimpaks."
"I considered hunting him down when he made off with that nigh-indestructible T-51, but then I gave a pause for thought of how MUCH power armor he provided us... And carried the thought through to HOW he could have possibly obtained it and considered it a fair trade, the Stealth Suit was *really* tempting though..."
@KovoriaTheConquerer eh, so did alot of characters that ended up in Fallout 4. Sierra Petrovita (the girl obsessed with Nuka Cola) was able to kill. Doctor Li & Maxon could be killed if you target the Citadel as well
It's pretty obvious looking back on it that their color scheme was what inspired the changes in Brotherhood armor in Fallout 4. The darker metallic color and the red accents and all.
Fallout 3 had the writing of a kindergarten. Or a mentally handicapped bird. That lead writer is an idiot just like the red lighter for fallout 4 is an idiot let's hope bethesda's next games actually have a story. And now before you tell me the water purifier was the whole story no you are a sideline character with everybody yelling at you to do stupid crap you are not the main character
@@jezpost04 I am chill. I have a tendency to spew out what's around my mind. Regardless of the situation or where I'm at. It's fun especially when you're in middle of class and someone says something that sets you off. And Bethesda is one of those things that really really aggravates me
@@66bloodmoon You are correct I hate how the perceive the super mutants as mindless brutes with no personality whatsoever or the enclave as generic genocidal bad guys ,and if you say that's what they were in FO2 you are blatantly wrong, and it pisses me off just as much that you don't much freedom whatsoever you're literally there for the ride you can't chat with eden and convince him to not poison the water nor can you convince the outcasts to rejoin the brotherhood it didn't bother me when I was younger but it pisses me off now also the gunplay is kinda shit
Honestly these are the cut content episodes that frustrate me the most. Theres so much here, we know so many of the lines, interest in alien tech, the artifact, the uniting the brother hood etc. But the things cut were done so in such a way forming any cohesive picture isn't feasible. Just enough to get a sense of/idea of what might have been but not enough to get the picture we'd need to make a solid recreation.
I agree. I remember playing Fallout 3 like crazy with particular attention paid to any detail pertaining to the Outcasts. I kept wondering if I had missed a quest trigger at some point. The possible resolution between them and the Brotherhood was so heavily alluded to so many times. It felt like it was definitely supposed to be a part of the base game.
Talon Company in particular was such a glaring missed opportunity. I remember wishing to join them as a kid, but never found a way 😢. At least I could join Riley's Rangers and make tons of caps off map location data...
I guess it makes sense that the Outcast initiates would be cut, since one of the big points that caused them to split off was recruiting from outside of the Brotherhood. Most of the Outcasts would have been already established Paladins, Knights and Scribes, so they probably wouldn't have many initiates, if any.
Alright, but how could would it be if one of the ways to resolve Trouble on the Homefront was to have the Outcasts take over Vault 101? All the vault dwellers being forced into service as initiates.
Eh not really, the outcasts have no goal for the wasteland and nothing to do with project purity Plus then your options would be 1. American military remnants 2. American military remnants 3. American military remnants but red
@@no-barkthechosenone2436 not strictly necessary in order to flesh them out. I mean you never join the Followers of the Apocalypse either and their still plenty fleshed out.
I wish trading advanced, rare and possibly unique items with the outcasts had more of an impact on the game world besides just giving you some basic supplies, legal access to a couple niche items and amnesty from the very sparse squads in the world. I wish you could do more to help them than just trade and actually watch their faction become more influential, widespread and calmer towards wastelanders and Lyons’ BoS (maybe with a truce like in NV with the BoS and NCR forces in the Mojave) in place of a formal unification quest which would’ve been an oddball quest for the parameters of F3’s engine and story and is now moot in F4 with Maxson having actually done all that himself, after the events of the previous game.
I feel like the best way someone could create a mod around reconstructing this quest and that concept is to attach it to giving the Outcasts the Alien Blaster. It's a perfect "wait... okay, you're the one outsider we're recruiting" story hook. A merc they've had good relations with comes along and trusts them and their ethos deeply enough that they trade perhaps the greatest find anyone has made in the Capitol Wasteland since Liberty Prime for next to nothing. They trust you enough to let you in the loop about their own intel on aliens (since you're in the loop on aliens existing and can be trusted to bring them alien tech) and send you on the alien questline, which could have some stages gated to be accessible only after you're in the proper Brotherhood. While F3 loved to have people instantly ask you to solve their problems, it would be wonderful to see the Outcasts being a bit more focused on opsec like that. Have Lyons be aware of your work with the Outcasts and want in on the tech for Enclave-fighting purposes, giving you the "who do I deliver the tech to" choice which then frees you to do the rest of the line. If you give it to the Brotherhood proper, perhaps give them unique alien-human hybrid tech gear (upgraded power armor, alien weaponry that's been modified to run on human ammo). If you give it to the Outcasts same for them but also open up a very high speech and charisma needing questline (by officially becoming the newest Outcast BOS member, which gives you the unique position of being a member of both factions) which allows you to engineer reunification since the Brotherhood _really_ want that alien tech. Get them reunified, they get gear that's also alien-human hybrid but has better stats with the logic being "the Outcasts have more tech to employ which in concert with the Brotherhood's tech is better than any one group fusing the tech with alien tech". The two groups could have a partial unification with the division of the Outcasts becoming Brotherhood Tech Acquisition Division (their troops do missions involving tech exclusively) and the Citadel Brotherhood becoming the Peacekeeping Division (exclusively doing the missions involving fighting things to maintain order in the Capitol Wasteland), allowing them to do both goals at the same time with the two groups being one, showing them building a more proper governmental division of industries. The coolest thing would be if you complete the mod's questline prior to the end of F3 or BS you could change them so the Brotherhood troops with you are decked out in that upgraded armor and, if you unified them, have both groups have soldiers involved since it's a joint operation. Hell, if you wanted to be pointlessly over the top, have the unification give Liberty Prime a new look incorporating alien tech that gives him a look somewhere between his Iron Giant look and the retro-futurism of Metropolis.
1:47 I'm pretty sure the "Lyons" Scribe Bowditch was referring to is Elder Lyons, not Sarah. Doesn't really make sense that the leader of the Outcasts would have to reconcile with anyone but the leader of the Brotherhood.
To be fair, Elder Lyons was not a huge brat in the final game but from the tapes and that line he was probably slated to be a traitorous prick earlier on
It’s strange to say, but I’ve been replaying fallout 3 and it feels like there were so many missed opportunities. New vegas cut content is tragic but it’s still a great game. Fallout 3 cut content makes 3 feel like a great game that was lost somewhere in development and ended up falling short.
I don't think this is true. I can specifically remember having pussy and alcohol in 2008 and I was like "this might be the best game ever made." I'm sure I could have deflated its writing failures, and FO:NV did by being better, but then 12 more years passed.
I wish the main quest was better. I like all of the side quests but the main questline is just..... ehhhhhhhh. "go find ur daddy." and the whole enclave vs brotherhood thing is full of plotholes and lazy writing, but hey at least liberty prime is cool. and i love galaxy news radio. THREEEEEEEE DAWWWWWGG
@@joshuagrahamnationalist Don't get me wrong. 3 has a very special place in my heart. I've poured many hours into it and I think it shines in a lot of areas. 3 walked so New Vegas could run.
If 3 was to ever get remastered all I would ask is to have all the cut content properly restored and implemented the way it was planned to be so that with New Vegas and 4 and you'd have yourself a wealth of new replayability
I hope this series inspires someone to create a Fallout 3 Restoration Project or something. Fallout 3 was really cool when it first came out, but these days it feels really unfinished, which is a real shame.
from those holotapes it sounds like maybe Lyon's was denying them reinforcements so that the loyalists to the old BoS could be eradicated by the raiders, leaving no opposition to his ways of leading the brotherhood
I been waiting on this one big homie, the Outcast's knew whom they enemies were and I used to watch them kill deathclaws and raiders and ghouls all in the same situation.
I remember the first time I played F3 when I left the vault I saw a outcast patrol walking past the vault and I just followed them and took all the loot from the enemy's they killed and after all the outcast died and I took them armor I sold it all and had a nice little amount of caps after.
There’s an expansion pack in the Fallout 4 Creation Club that gives you a Robotic Outcast in Power Armor that will travel as an extra companion. It’s cool to have Dance and the Outcast with you, if you’re in Power Armor too, you are as formidable as you can get.
I know there's a whole mod for this. But they really should have made it to where you could tell the brotherhood about Mother ship. And then have a whole quest line about the brotherhood taking over the mother ship. And then just run things from there.
After I beat Fallout 3 shortly after its release in 2008, I knew Bethesda really fucked up when there wasn't a true Enclave ending or Outcasts ending. There was huge opportunity for both factions I mean I really thought you'd be able to side with the Enclave and not have to fucking destroy them. That was a huge letdown, especially on an evil karma run.
The outcasts were pretty cool imo and it honestly sucks that all they were used for in operation: Anchorage was to start the simulation, also another weird thing idk if this happened to anyone else, after I finished operation anchorage I dropped a couple of items in their bunker and everyone wanted to kill me
Its possible that one one the voice actors was a dev who used it as a placeholder, then a voice actor did it but it didnt sound right until the final and in game holotape was recorded
Use of Perfect Dark soundtrack during the alien bs is awesome. I know you've used it before, but man, that's some of the most nostalgic music out there for me that I rarely hear these days. Perfect Dark was probably the best multiplayer experience I've ever had, and I guess that's saying something
Man, it sucks that the Outcasts didn't get fleshed out. They - and the Enclave - have always been my favorite factions when it comes to Fallout 3. I can't even play as my favorite factions, whyyyyyy?? There are many things I wish were fleshed out in my favorite video games, lol. Or at least weren't omitted from them.
Why would you want to play as the enclave? Forced to follow orders, not allowed to take on sidequests or interact with non-enclave npcs, not allowed to explore, no weapon/armor progression, and by mid-late game you don’t even have a technological advantage over the non-enclave mc
@@Chris-mc2dt Okay, mayyybe not one of the direct subordinates of the Enclave. But what if we could get to play as a mc that eventually becomes something like an honorary member of the Enclave? Where as far as everyone, Enclave included, is concerned, you're now one of their members. You could even work your way up their rankings as part of the quests. All this, while still not officially part of the Enclave so that the mc can still have their freedom. Or, walk into the Enclave and somehow denounce the current President/Acting General, then convince the faction that you're best suited to fill the newly missing role. That way you still have your freedom.
I'm mixed on the cut content, I wish most of the content remained to increase the presence of the Brotherhood Outcasts, but I'm iffy on the alien content.
Idk if it's due to leveled list shenanigans but every playthrough where I've raided the outcasts armory in the basement, there has always been alien power cells there.
I always thought the Outcasts were bizarrely wasted in Fallout 3. I kept waiting for something meaningful to happen with them, before giving up and looting them.
The thumbnail for this video seems pretty misleading since it's taken from Fallout 4 and only covers Fallout 3. But I'm glad I stuck around and watched it anyway I never knew about the cut quest.
Well, I'm not the one who had written any of That into The Brotherhood History, but what I believe more then likely actually took place, is after Owen Lyons Dies, some of The Brotherhood members, went out on Thier own expedition made peace with Paladin ( Protector ) Casdin..... Told him to challenge Sarah Lyons for The Eldership, A few years after she had already taken leadership....after her father's death..... When it came down to The laws of The Codex, even Young Maxson Had to honor this Codex Challenge by Paladin Casdin, after half of Lyons Chapter had agreed to accept them all back into the fold.... Then Sarah n Henry Casdin battle One on One, Winner Is The Undisputed, Official Elder, This is why it is only Stated that Sarah Fell in Battle without the Details....how or why.... She Died.... Because it was wiped away, as not A proud moment of Brotherhood History.... Then Paladin ( Elder ) Casdin names Young Arthur Maxson to take Leadership if he should Fall.... To honor The History of The Maxson Name, because He knew That Sarah n Young Arthur Maxson were close... This was agreed upon by all of The High Ranked members under Sarah's ( Lyons Pride ) all of The Outcast to bring The Order Back into The Brotherhood of Steel.... Casdin wasn't So Proud of Putting her to death, but This would bring A New Age, to Them all Reuniting All members back as One .....!!!!! After Young Maxson was 16 On one evening.... New Elder Casdin, was Killed.... Then Arthur Maxson, himself took the charge avenging the Death of The Elder.... The Entire Chapter, Honors this from that day forward, Young Elder Maxson, was In Control, as weeks went by they all could see his Maxson Blood ran through & through, he was meant to be Elder.... Leading them from The Adams Air Force Base, the construction of The Prydwen, Travelling towards Boston, which is when we see him after another 10 more years, who's to say how many battles after They destroyed Thier enemies all who was between them n Thier destination....!!!!!
First time I saw the Outcasts I was like oh wow cause I thought they were just gonna be reg Brotherhood. I was disappointed nothing happened with them. I would've loved some alien Outcasts quest.
Who wrote the fallout 3 guide and when was it written? it seems to have more references to missing and unimplemented or changed content than the guide for fallout new vegas
Always great content, I think I’ve commented on at least 15 of your last videos at this rate. Would love to see more elder scrolls stuff at some point, maybe even some obscure oblivion stuff. Good shit my man keep it up😤
I kinda wonder if Bethesda suffered in the same way that Obsidian did. Seems like they had so many great ideas to flesh out various factions but most of them had to be cut. I feel like they focused on building a fun world to explore rather than quests and stories, and when the deadline approached they weren't finished with all this so it got the axe. If they had more time maybe their factions and lore would have felt more complete
Right. It's basic game development, you have time and money constrains and ambitious ideas that either don't work or just don't fit into the game. It's not an excuse, it happens.
The best things about alien stories and books film. Is the mystery, conspircy and hidden truth. When you discover the truth ethier the whole thing seem silly or a waste of time kind. Thats why i loved mothership zeta the aliens were real. And it didnt matter cause the world was gone.
Bethesda could've made a lot of money compiling everything left on the cutting room floor and selling it in a "making of" package for enthusiasts to explore and experiment with the content that could've been.
Does any one know how to get fallout 3 to work on windows 10 I’ve tried every option I have found online and I can’t get the steam or gog version to launch
Had to full No-Bark Noonan for this one, so grab your tin foil hats 👽 Huge thanks to Modder Ludo for cracking this quest open and a huge thanks to Modder Trash, LedZepIV, Buzzard and Joen from my discord channel for additional help on this video!
Hey man thanks for making more Fallout videos everytime you uploaded makes my day and I hope you keep doing more of these cut content videos specially New Vegas content every year I binge watch your cut content series, keep up the good work
You had to what?
@@no-barkthechosenone2436 Who sent you? I ain't talkin'.
@@no-barknoonan8798 if anyone asks, we never spoke
LONESOME ROAD CUT CONTENT PLEASE IM BEGGING YOU
Its ironic that the official brotherhood in fallout 3 are technically the outcasts while the "outcasts" are the actual brotherhood
If that's true, then fuck the brotherhood honestly, I kill the Outcasts everytime, as they deserve.
tbh i've always kinda liked that little bit, one of the few truly unique things that bethesda did when they were given the fallout ip
@@zhitchcresttail3387 why I hate the brotherhood but the outcasts at least respect their forefathers goals instead of helping the wasteland for no justified plausible reason it would have been better to make the "official" brotherhood some other faction with the outcasts being the actual brotherhood chapter in the local area
@@shakeem444 those backward thinkers got their butts handed to them out west with the NCR. Also their first Elder actually wanted any people to join instead of ex military.
The Outcasts aren’t that close to the true BoS. The actual Brotherhood, while reclusive, did still trade openly with the outside world. In Fallout 1, the Crimson Caravan is operating a route to Lost Hills. They even became an R&D house for the NCR until tensions grew between the groups and war erupted.
The Outcasts think they’re true to the west, but they’re far from it.
The Outcasts were a really big opportunity that Bethesda neglected to capitalize on. Interesting video!
sums up bethesda tbf
They pretty much neglected to capitalise on Fallout 3 in general. Just look at how they handled the Enclave.
Would have been a better antagonist imo. Especially if you could end up joining them
@@thefinaldovah9324 They were pretty much the exact opposite of the Lyon’s Pride. They really should have fought each other
@@sealake7935 ...they do.
I wish Casdin would have made an appearance in Fallout 4.
"To be honest, we got most of our technology from this one Vault kid who just brought scores, and I mean SCORES of Enclave power armor and plasma weapons to us at Fort Independence. Kid always wanted Stimpaks."
Or 5.56 ammo
Or Rad-away
@@ryanbarrie9143 or frag grenades
"I considered hunting him down when he made off with that nigh-indestructible T-51, but then I gave a pause for thought of how MUCH power armor he provided us... And carried the thought through to HOW he could have possibly obtained it and considered it a fair trade, the Stealth Suit was *really* tempting though..."
He had the potential to die, so he never could.
@KovoriaTheConquerer eh, so did alot of characters that ended up in Fallout 4.
Sierra Petrovita (the girl obsessed with Nuka Cola) was able to kill.
Doctor Li & Maxon could be killed if you target the Citadel as well
Man the color ways for the outcasts is so badass, would've rocked the red and black recon armor or scribe robes if they were added
It's pretty obvious looking back on it that their color scheme was what inspired the changes in Brotherhood armor in Fallout 4. The darker metallic color and the red accents and all.
I think there are outcast scribes robes in operation anchorage
@@Odnebruskwbrrjxonly one however
I wish the outcasts had a bigger role in fallout 3. That would’ve been a super fun ending to have
Fallout 3 had the writing of a kindergarten. Or a mentally handicapped bird. That lead writer is an idiot just like the red lighter for fallout 4 is an idiot let's hope bethesda's next games actually have a story. And now before you tell me the water purifier was the whole story no you are a sideline character with everybody yelling at you to do stupid crap you are not the main character
@@66bloodmoon whoa chill
@@jezpost04 I am chill. I have a tendency to spew out what's around my mind. Regardless of the situation or where I'm at. It's fun especially when you're in middle of class and someone says something that sets you off. And Bethesda is one of those things that really really aggravates me
@@jezpost04 funny didn't think my comment was posted, they have a tendency to manually disappear because of TH-cam or other users
@@66bloodmoon You are correct I hate how the perceive the super mutants as mindless brutes with no personality whatsoever or the enclave as generic genocidal bad guys ,and if you say that's what they were in FO2 you are blatantly wrong, and it pisses me off just as much that you don't much freedom whatsoever you're literally there for the ride you can't chat with eden and convince him to not poison the water nor can you convince the outcasts to rejoin the brotherhood it didn't bother me when I was younger but it pisses me off now also the gunplay is kinda shit
I love that the Outcasts are nice enough to let me have the near indestructible T-51b after I beat their high score
I mean... u kinda did have to fight some of them to get it though
Honestly these are the cut content episodes that frustrate me the most. Theres so much here, we know so many of the lines, interest in alien tech, the artifact, the uniting the brother hood etc. But the things cut were done so in such a way forming any cohesive picture isn't feasible. Just enough to get a sense of/idea of what might have been but not enough to get the picture we'd need to make a solid recreation.
Stuff like this is why I am happy when things like the Nintendo hack happen.
I agree. I remember playing Fallout 3 like crazy with particular attention paid to any detail pertaining to the Outcasts. I kept wondering if I had missed a quest trigger at some point. The possible resolution between them and the Brotherhood was so heavily alluded to so many times. It felt like it was definitely supposed to be a part of the base game.
The outcasts and especially the Talon company always felt like a good thing not fully executed.
Talon Company in particular was such a glaring missed opportunity. I remember wishing to join them as a kid, but never found a way 😢. At least I could join Riley's Rangers and make tons of caps off map location data...
Talon company. Now they were A grade c#nts..
I guess it makes sense that the Outcast initiates would be cut, since one of the big points that caused them to split off was recruiting from outside of the Brotherhood. Most of the Outcasts would have been already established Paladins, Knights and Scribes, so they probably wouldn't have many initiates, if any.
Alright, but how could would it be if one of the ways to resolve Trouble on the Homefront was to have the Outcasts take over Vault 101? All the vault dwellers being forced into service as initiates.
@@inurokuwarz It wouldn't be at all, it would be extremely out of character.. They don't recruit outsiders, and they sure as hell don't enslave them.
@@inurokuwarz Thats just not how they work mate
Had fallout 3 had the enclave and the brotherhood outcasts as joinable factions, then this game would’ve been so much better
I kinda see it
Eh not really, the outcasts have no goal for the wasteland and nothing to do with project purity
Plus then your options would be
1. American military remnants
2. American military remnants
3. American military remnants but red
@@LucyWest370 sure, but if they were joinable then they’d probably get fleshed out a bit more
@@no-barkthechosenone2436 not strictly necessary in order to flesh them out. I mean you never join the Followers of the Apocalypse either and their still plenty fleshed out.
@@LucyWest370just shut up, it would be nice to be able to join them and that's the end of that.
I wish trading advanced, rare and possibly unique items with the outcasts had more of an impact on the game world besides just giving you some basic supplies, legal access to a couple niche items and amnesty from the very sparse squads in the world. I wish you could do more to help them than just trade and actually watch their faction become more influential, widespread and calmer towards wastelanders and Lyons’ BoS (maybe with a truce like in NV with the BoS and NCR forces in the Mojave) in place of a formal unification quest which would’ve been an oddball quest for the parameters of F3’s engine and story and is now moot in F4 with Maxson having actually done all that himself, after the events of the previous game.
I feel like the best way someone could create a mod around reconstructing this quest and that concept is to attach it to giving the Outcasts the Alien Blaster. It's a perfect "wait... okay, you're the one outsider we're recruiting" story hook. A merc they've had good relations with comes along and trusts them and their ethos deeply enough that they trade perhaps the greatest find anyone has made in the Capitol Wasteland since Liberty Prime for next to nothing. They trust you enough to let you in the loop about their own intel on aliens (since you're in the loop on aliens existing and can be trusted to bring them alien tech) and send you on the alien questline, which could have some stages gated to be accessible only after you're in the proper Brotherhood. While F3 loved to have people instantly ask you to solve their problems, it would be wonderful to see the Outcasts being a bit more focused on opsec like that. Have Lyons be aware of your work with the Outcasts and want in on the tech for Enclave-fighting purposes, giving you the "who do I deliver the tech to" choice which then frees you to do the rest of the line. If you give it to the Brotherhood proper, perhaps give them unique alien-human hybrid tech gear (upgraded power armor, alien weaponry that's been modified to run on human ammo). If you give it to the Outcasts same for them but also open up a very high speech and charisma needing questline (by officially becoming the newest Outcast BOS member, which gives you the unique position of being a member of both factions) which allows you to engineer reunification since the Brotherhood _really_ want that alien tech. Get them reunified, they get gear that's also alien-human hybrid but has better stats with the logic being "the Outcasts have more tech to employ which in concert with the Brotherhood's tech is better than any one group fusing the tech with alien tech". The two groups could have a partial unification with the division of the Outcasts becoming Brotherhood Tech Acquisition Division (their troops do missions involving tech exclusively) and the Citadel Brotherhood becoming the Peacekeeping Division (exclusively doing the missions involving fighting things to maintain order in the Capitol Wasteland), allowing them to do both goals at the same time with the two groups being one, showing them building a more proper governmental division of industries.
The coolest thing would be if you complete the mod's questline prior to the end of F3 or BS you could change them so the Brotherhood troops with you are decked out in that upgraded armor and, if you unified them, have both groups have soldiers involved since it's a joint operation. Hell, if you wanted to be pointlessly over the top, have the unification give Liberty Prime a new look incorporating alien tech that gives him a look somewhere between his Iron Giant look and the retro-futurism of Metropolis.
1:47 I'm pretty sure the "Lyons" Scribe Bowditch was referring to is Elder Lyons, not Sarah. Doesn't really make sense that the leader of the Outcasts would have to reconcile with anyone but the leader of the Brotherhood.
To be fair, Elder Lyons was not a huge brat in the final game but from the tapes and that line he was probably slated to be a traitorous prick earlier on
It’s strange to say, but I’ve been replaying fallout 3 and it feels like there were so many missed opportunities. New vegas cut content is tragic but it’s still a great game. Fallout 3 cut content makes 3 feel like a great game that was lost somewhere in development and ended up falling short.
like an actual cut content
Too much cut content. Sad
I don't think this is true. I can specifically remember having pussy and alcohol in 2008 and I was like "this might be the best game ever made." I'm sure I could have deflated its writing failures, and FO:NV did by being better, but then 12 more years passed.
Same with Skyrim and Kotor 2, and to a lesser extent Bioshock Infinite
I wish the main quest was better. I like all of the side quests but the main questline is just..... ehhhhhhhh. "go find ur daddy." and the whole enclave vs brotherhood thing is full of plotholes and lazy writing, but hey at least liberty prime is cool. and i love galaxy news radio. THREEEEEEEE DAWWWWWGG
I wish the brotherhood Civil War was more fleshed out.
Brotherhood Outcasts were by far my favorite faction in Fallout 3. It’s too bad they didn’t play a larger role in the story.
Would love to see you keep doing FO3 content, and eventually 4. It's no new vegas, but it's the next best thing. Love your channel dude, keep it up.
i love fallout 3 and while i wouldn’t dare say it’s better than new vegas, it really is the only other fallout i like and play.
@@joshuagrahamnationalist Don't get me wrong. 3 has a very special place in my heart. I've poured many hours into it and I think it shines in a lot of areas. 3 walked so New Vegas could run.
You thought that the memes about new vegas cut content being even greater than the game itself were inaccurate?
@@mado-wh4jv What memes?
@@JacobG2801 th-cam.com/video/xxmNK-0yBn4/w-d-xo.html
the outcasts are such an interesting faction, it's a shame their content was cut. another great vid❤
Thanks bro! 🖤🖤🖤
The Outcasts are my homies!!! I trade all my electric gizmos for ammunition any chance I get. Works for me!!!
Super cool!
Alien content always seemed so underdeveloped, even with the addition of the dlc. Now I know why. Great video, dude!
I remember when I played fallout 3 and came across the outcasts, my impression was “is this it?”
I always felt like there was something missing about these characters, like a big piece of the puzzle just wasn’t there.
If 3 was to ever get remastered all I would ask is to have all the cut content properly restored and implemented the way it was planned to be so that with New Vegas and 4 and you'd have yourself a wealth of new replayability
what a week, thank you as always for these videos(I really dig the outcasts too).
I hope this series inspires someone to create a Fallout 3 Restoration Project or something. Fallout 3 was really cool when it first came out, but these days it feels really unfinished, which is a real shame.
Simply uncut
@@DirtyGeorge Thanks!
from those holotapes it sounds like maybe Lyon's was denying them reinforcements so that the loyalists to the old BoS could be eradicated by the raiders, leaving no opposition to his ways of leading the brotherhood
I been waiting on this one big homie, the Outcast's knew whom they enemies were and I used to watch them kill deathclaws and raiders and ghouls all in the same situation.
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I’ve always loved the outcasts and wished there was more quests with them
my favorite faction in fo3, i wish they had a bigger role
You should do a couple videos on Fallout 3's DLCs
I remember the first time I played F3 when I left the vault I saw a outcast patrol walking past the vault and I just followed them and took all the loot from the enemy's they killed and after all the outcast died and I took them armor I sold it all and had a nice little amount of caps after.
Interesting. I didn't know they patrol by Vault 101
Over the years I've played this game probably 3 dozen times and I've only seen it twice.
There’s an expansion pack in the Fallout 4 Creation Club that gives you a Robotic Outcast in Power Armor that will travel as an extra companion. It’s cool to have Dance and the Outcast with you, if you’re in Power Armor too, you are as formidable as you can get.
I know there's a whole mod for this. But they really should have made it to where you could tell the brotherhood about Mother ship.
And then have a whole quest line about the brotherhood taking over the mother ship. And then just run things from there.
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After I beat Fallout 3 shortly after its release in 2008, I knew Bethesda really fucked up when there wasn't a true Enclave ending or Outcasts ending. There was huge opportunity for both factions I mean I really thought you'd be able to side with the Enclave and not have to fucking destroy them. That was a huge letdown, especially on an evil karma run.
Really enjoyed the video! Deep dives into what could have been are always interesting to me and you presented this subject really well.
Wilson Atomatoys makes the Giddyup Buttercup toy, which explains why the aliens in Xeta are so interested in them...
The outcasts were pretty cool imo and it honestly sucks that all they were used for in operation: Anchorage was to start the simulation, also another weird thing idk if this happened to anyone else, after I finished operation anchorage I dropped a couple of items in their bunker and everyone wanted to kill me
You can hear them talking while you loot the storeroom, saying they wanted to betray you-except for best wife Olin
Holy shit e's actually doing Fallout 3 cut content. I'm about to shit my pants
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Damn Triangle back at it again.
Amazing content, It's always cool to see what might have been in the fallout games, Keep up the great work
Hearing Jeff Baker at 7:19 is honestly surprising. But he probably does a lot of voices to the point where he is a presence within Fallout 3.
Its possible that one one the voice actors was a dev who used it as a placeholder, then a voice actor did it but it didnt sound right until the final and in game holotape was recorded
Wow just started playing fallout 3 again, great timing lol
Use of Perfect Dark soundtrack during the alien bs is awesome. I know you've used it before, but man, that's some of the most nostalgic music out there for me that I rarely hear these days. Perfect Dark was probably the best multiplayer experience I've ever had, and I guess that's saying something
oh wow glad you talked about the Outcasts
Great content bro, love your channel
7:49 *_Who else can see a hidden face in the concrete rubble ??_*
I like fallout 3 and I'm glad to see that you're covering cut content
Heck yeah fallout 3 cut content series babeyyyy
Cut Content from Fallout 3? I love you!
Man, it sucks that the Outcasts didn't get fleshed out. They - and the Enclave - have always been my favorite factions when it comes to Fallout 3. I can't even play as my favorite factions, whyyyyyy??
There are many things I wish were fleshed out in my favorite video games, lol. Or at least weren't omitted from them.
Same, I don’t want to keep banging rocks together :(
Why would you want to play as the enclave? Forced to follow orders, not allowed to take on sidequests or interact with non-enclave npcs, not allowed to explore, no weapon/armor progression, and by mid-late game you don’t even have a technological advantage over the non-enclave mc
@@Chris-mc2dt what a stupid question. To bring back the Good ol USA of course! What are you a commie?!
@@-Cheif a whole lot of No's and very little imagination, I think you're correct
God bless the Enclave!
@@Chris-mc2dt Okay, mayyybe not one of the direct subordinates of the Enclave. But what if we could get to play as a mc that eventually becomes something like an honorary member of the Enclave? Where as far as everyone, Enclave included, is concerned, you're now one of their members. You could even work your way up their rankings as part of the quests.
All this, while still not officially part of the Enclave so that the mc can still have their freedom.
Or, walk into the Enclave and somehow denounce the current President/Acting General, then convince the faction that you're best suited to fill the newly missing role. That way you still have your freedom.
What’s it with Bethesda and aliens
I'm glad to see all this cut content keep up the good work
Dude thanks didn't knew fallout had that much cut content love your videos
I think the game was meant to have multi endings but was cut. But this was changed and thisbquest was cut as a result
Nearly every FO3 playthrough I do I give the outcasts the alien blaster and it's ammo, easiest way to stockpile stimpaks and ammo
Fantastic content as always, thanks for the video
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Another thing that was never put into 3 because they ran out of time but is never talked about is vault 100: DC's Control Vault
I'm mixed on the cut content, I wish most of the content remained to increase the presence of the Brotherhood Outcasts, but I'm iffy on the alien content.
Idk if it's due to leveled list shenanigans but every playthrough where I've raided the outcasts armory in the basement, there has always been alien power cells there.
Amazing work
Cool. And that Recon Armor looked freakin' sweet.
its really too bad, the outcasts are one of my favorite groups they coulda been much more
When I first found their headquarters I was hoping to join them but sadly you cant.
I hope we get more videos on Fallout 3's cut content. I'm sure you have yet to scratch the surface for New Vegas cut content.
Virgin Lyon vs Chad Casdin
Another amazin' video keep up the great work!
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I always thought the Outcasts were bizarrely wasted in Fallout 3. I kept waiting for something meaningful to happen with them, before giving up and looting them.
It's shocking how little bestheda seems to care about their factions interacting.
Ah my favorite faction in fallout 3 the outcasts
The moment aliens became canon, any interesting backstory bethesda wrote into the game became sour.
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I always felt there was more to those grumpy guys.
The thumbnail for this video seems pretty misleading since it's taken from Fallout 4 and only covers Fallout 3. But I'm glad I stuck around and watched it anyway I never knew about the cut quest.
No it's Fallout 3 with a graphic mods and an enb
Well, I'm not the one who had written any of That into The Brotherhood History, but what I believe more then likely actually took place, is after Owen Lyons Dies, some of The Brotherhood members, went out on Thier own expedition made peace with Paladin ( Protector ) Casdin..... Told him to challenge Sarah Lyons for The Eldership, A few years after she had already taken leadership....after her father's death..... When it came down to The laws of The Codex, even Young Maxson Had to honor this Codex Challenge by Paladin Casdin, after half of Lyons Chapter had agreed to accept them all back into the fold.... Then Sarah n Henry Casdin battle One on One, Winner Is The Undisputed, Official Elder, This is why it is only Stated that Sarah Fell in Battle without the Details....how or why.... She Died.... Because it was wiped away, as not A proud moment of Brotherhood History.... Then Paladin ( Elder ) Casdin names Young Arthur Maxson to take Leadership if he should Fall.... To honor The History of The Maxson Name, because He knew That Sarah n Young Arthur Maxson were close... This was agreed upon by all of The High Ranked members under Sarah's ( Lyons Pride ) all of The Outcast to bring The Order Back into The Brotherhood of Steel....
Casdin wasn't So Proud of Putting her to death, but This would bring A New Age, to Them all Reuniting All members back as One .....!!!!! After Young Maxson was 16 On one evening.... New Elder Casdin, was Killed.... Then Arthur Maxson, himself took the charge avenging the Death of The Elder.... The Entire Chapter, Honors this from that day forward, Young Elder Maxson, was In Control, as weeks went by they all could see his Maxson Blood ran through & through, he was meant to be Elder.... Leading them from The Adams Air Force Base, the construction of The Prydwen, Travelling towards Boston, which is when we see him after another 10 more years, who's to say how many battles after They destroyed Thier enemies all who was between them n Thier destination....!!!!!
First time I saw the Outcasts I was like oh wow cause I thought they were just gonna be reg Brotherhood. I was disappointed nothing happened with them. I would've loved some alien Outcasts quest.
imo the recording at 7:51 sounds like temp VO to me
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Man I love the outcast. Now I want to get a pc for this mod😔
I wonder do Tale of two wasteland have added those cut content
I always felt like the whole outcast faction was un finished as hell
hope ya do the other dlcs for new vegas! and Fallout 3! i bet they've got interesting things!
7:53 boy i dont even recognize that voice actor. Wonder who he is
Awesome video
Hello Triangle City, will you be do more content based on Fallout 3?
Who wrote the fallout 3 guide and when was it written? it seems to have more references to missing and unimplemented or changed content than the guide for fallout new vegas
Always great content, I think I’ve commented on at least 15 of your last videos at this rate. Would love to see more elder scrolls stuff at some point, maybe even some obscure oblivion stuff. Good shit my man keep it up😤
they need a fallout that will be massive and use 5 years of development and will be in the mojave or washington or both as a sequel
I don't think making aliens Canon would be good
I kinda wonder if Bethesda suffered in the same way that Obsidian did. Seems like they had so many great ideas to flesh out various factions but most of them had to be cut. I feel like they focused on building a fun world to explore rather than quests and stories, and when the deadline approached they weren't finished with all this so it got the axe. If they had more time maybe their factions and lore would have felt more complete
Right. It's basic game development, you have time and money constrains and ambitious ideas that either don't work or just don't fit into the game. It's not an excuse, it happens.
The best things about alien stories and books film. Is the mystery, conspircy and hidden truth. When you discover the truth ethier the whole thing seem silly or a waste of time kind. Thats why i loved mothership zeta the aliens were real. And it didnt matter cause the world was gone.
Bethesda could've made a lot of money compiling everything left on the cutting room floor and selling it in a "making of" package for enthusiasts to explore and experiment with the content that could've been.
i suspect this quest was cut due to conflicts with the main story, or a lack of time to properly implement a branching path.
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Does any one know how to get fallout 3 to work on windows 10 I’ve tried every option I have found online and I can’t get the steam or gog version to launch
Real talk the "outcasts" are more legitimate as Brotherhood of Steel faction than Lyon's Brotherhood. (even If I agree with Lyon's)