ENFPs & INTPs - A good or bad match?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- Here a few thoughts on the relationship between ENFPs and INTPs from an ENFP perspective and experience. Leave your comments and share your thoughts! Also I’m sorry that the video gets dark by the second half, will keep in mind the time for recording videos next time! (Very ENFP right?!)
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They say enfp's best matches are infj and intj. But I really prefer intp over intj. I get the mean and cruel vibe from intjs more often while intps are only clueless and cute for me
Parvin Dashti mmm that’s interesting... aren’t you an ENTP perhaps?! 😅
@@Mindimalist I think I'm enfp (Definitely more Fi~Te than Ti~Fe, way more emotional and sensitive than entp I guess) based on cognitive functions and overall description of enfp type. Maybe it's all stereotypes of intj that they seem against feelings and kinda mean and provocative while intps only seem clueless about feelings. I'm so sensitive and I can't imagine a relationship with intj that doesn't understand/care about my feelings🤔😅 I think intjs are good with intp and entp and entj and istp, not with feeler types.
Oh My God! Same! INTJ's are not my type but I'm so prone to liking INTPs!
Perv
Omg yes INTP do give off cute and clueless vibe
'intp is good at finishing projects....'
intp: lol
LOL
INTP + ADHD… sigh
We struggle with deadlines 😭😭
"...that are not theirs" haha
INTP here, biggest joke i've ever heard Lol
I am an ENFP and I have been with an INTP for 5 years now (we got married a year ago). Everything you say about INTPs resonates a lot, and specially how it is perceived by an ENFP. However I would like to add that in our case, that was a strong issue the first year of so of dating. It was very hard for me to make him understand that my feelings were important and counted. But eventually we found middle ground, and now, he is even able to talk about his feelings!!! It's fantastic. Anyways, besides the problems of communication, which can be solved if you make an effort, the attraction and fascination of conversation is out of this world. I have never felt more understood than by him, I am weird and he loves it. He is brilliant and I love him. We have a lot of fun together, I would say that it is a wonderful match.
Thanks for sharing. And I'm so glad to read that you guys could work through the natural tendencies of each type and grow together
ENFP with INTP boyfriend. I love my INTP. Nobody gets my humour like he does and we have great conversations about all kinds of abstract things. He's thoughtful and in private he's very playful (that's the Fe). He's sometimes oblivious, whic is sort of adorable, but mainly he grounds me and keeps me from going off the rails. In turn I motivate him to test his limits and br more sociable and adventurous.
If I've learned 3 things about a relationship with an INTP it's this:
1)BE EXPLICIT ABOUT YOUR THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS - Your INTP partner can not intuit or even read your feelings. Do not wait for them to notice you're feeling a certain way, just open your mouth and tell them. They do care about your feeling, but they don't always see them.
2) GIVE THEM TIME TO THINK- If you discuss something with your INTP, don't expect an answer straight away. INTPs like to get their thoughts in order before they discuss. Trust that if you raise an issue that they will think on it and discuss with you when they have had time to think about it properly. Be patient with them. They don't have your reaction speed.
3) KNOW YOUR ROLE IN THE RELATIONSHIP- Put simply, you as the ENFP are the driver and they are the Navigator. If you want things to happen you have to be the one to motivate your INTP and to put the wheels in motion. As Navigator your INTP will be the one to envision the whats and whens and hows, and to take care of the stuff you just find too tedious to deal with. When you get that dynamic down, you can achieve anything you want together. Just make sure you both understand that, and neither of you resents the other for not doing more of the opposite role.
INTPxENFP is a wonderful relationship providing the INTP is willing to step up their effort and communicate, and that the ENFP can be patient and show trust to their partner.
I'm crying, this is beautiful and i hope i can learn to get better at these things as i have just started dating am intp and it's a struggle 😭
We love talking things through so i know we will both only continue to learn and grow in this relationship, but rn i still get bummed that he doesn't share as much as I do, or that he doesn't reach out enough even though I know he doesn't know what I'm feeling unless i tell him 😭 (i mean he is intuitive so he will notice if I'm being obviously moody)
On behalf of INTPs. I want to say, "We are sorry". We suck at communicating we don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings. It just comes out a certain way. Often we have no idea why we hurt your feelings, but that's beside the point. "We are sorry" pls dont take us seriously.
This is the cutest comment ever. Thank you! On behalf of enfps :)
Lol yes
As an INTP, I have chimes in to annoy you and say no other individuals represent me, INTP or not.
On behalf of INTP I can say that ENFPs are a bit annoying.
@@ramdom_assortment bad grammar l+ratio
INTP here. I’ve only had positive experiences with ENFPs in romantic connections. Especially as an INTP with super strong Ne. Ne x Ne is very magnetic. You’re right about the clash between Ti vs Fi, and eventually that needs sorted out. Two mature adults can manage this, though. I like that the ENFP is willing to accommodate the INTPs eccentricity and can give them space. INTPs need to learn to just reciprocate emotionality. And it’s not as hard as we think. The ENFP will naturally take the lead on emotions, and the INTP can just reciprocate when that happens
John Hanigosky that’s awesome. Thanks for sharing!
I (an INTP) also have really high Ne, and this may help explain why I am often drawn to ENFP people. Thanks!
My boyfriend is INTP and I'm ENFP so this is fascinating
Same
Same. Aren't they just so cute, in their own little worlds there. 😊
me too but im intp
INTP x ENFP= YES
-an intp
I am an ENFP and my wife is INTP we have been married for 6 years. This is my 4th marriage and by far the best relationship/marriage ive ever been in
Im a ENFP male and my girlfriend is INTP (reverse of the usual), I’m a sagittarius aries rising with my moon in taurus and she has all 5 major planets in virgo (!). I feel like we are doing well but we both have to work a lot on our communication, her obsession with perfecting and doubting everything again and again before actually trying it can be annoying sometimes but also it forces me to focus on my goals to actually make my life better instead of jumping endlessly from a passion to another without improving my situation. She makes me more organised and I make her act more and relax more. For us it’s a match. :)
Yeah im INTP. Great video. Some very good points. Very self aware and informed on the INTP as well. Loved the part on "poking people to bait out a debate". So accurate lol. Have a like!
Thank you! I talk with knowledge based on experience, having lived with one myself some time ago.
And plz stop pocking ENFPs haha... You guys just need lots of ENTJs that help you to either stop over analysing or that decide for you what's best haha.
I'm a male INTP and dated a female ENFP. To sum it up, communication was not good... Which drove me crazy as a logical person, i couldn't figure her out. And I think she felt misunderstood... In the end she broke up with me and I accepted her decision but i still overthink about the "why didn't it work, etc..." But this video brought a bit of clarity. Obviously every relationship isn't as easy as one personality type vs another but this video (and the comments) are very accurate in more than a few ways.
Sad :(
Intp here. Not gonna lie, i was always subconsciously attracted to dom fe types (exfjs). They're good at what I'm bad at, they're different and charming. But... In terms of connecting they're actually too different.
I think every time I ever felt... Like, sane? Not alienated?.. Was when I was observing enfps. There's something super comforting in this ne dom - fi second thing that makes me feel like we're similar enough to understand each other and different enough to keep it fun. It's mostly cuz of ne. I think it's normal for people to favorite their second function. It's much easier to connect with people who share some of your functions, rather than with completely opposite types.
So I'm sure enfp x intp can work well. If you're an enfp just accept that your partner is sensitive to change and chaos (including emotional one) more than you (much less than xxxj types for sure tho), give them their time and space to analyse. Intps are reeeealy into adventures, but they need their mental system first, and once they know what they're dealing with - they'll go with you wherever you want. But you need to probably grow some skin cuz you may get hurt by their innate reluctance to go into the touchy-feely. Don't be afraid tho! Intps are actually sensitive babys who like to have fun and be nice, and you, as an enfp, have exclusive gift of making them want to show it. But they need time. And... You should probably teach them a little how to talk about their feelings.
INTPs are my favourite and I’m glad you like us too ❤
I think the stereotype of all INTPs having sticks up their asses doesn't apply to a healthy INTP! I think there is a time and place for Ti and Si, especially in my college courses. In social settings and being with my ENFP playmate, I love using the Ne-Fe axis, they are such fun functions to use! Ne brainstorming and shennenigans with my ENFP are really great. INTP, when loosened up, can really sometimes be very childlike, much like the ENFP.
Lastly, I think of myself as a reactionary person. A quiet person talking to an INTP will find a quiet INTP staring back at him. A bubbly ENTP could talk for HOURS with an INTP.
Im an ENTP that has high Ti like the INTP. I had an ENFP girlfriend that I fell in love with (she is now married to someone else). One day she just said I was too logical and she broke up with me. It hurt so much and I was so confused and kinda annoyed that it was because I was “too logical”. I still don’t know exactly why she broke up with me but I’m sure it is similar to what was said on this video. I date a lot of ENFPs cause they find me, as an ENTP, quite attractive at first and then later change their minds when they see that I dig for logical truths. Sorry if it’s annoying. I do it because I want to know the objective truth and I want others to know it too so that we will all know the best way to live our lives as humans. Maybe I asume that the subjective truths I find using my Ti are objective truths. The truth is that probably no one will know the objective truths in this life, but that won’t stop me from trying to find it.
For us ENFPs that is just useless. We'll never be able to find the ultimate truth thus why would we dwell on it? (Tertiary Te) Because Te is tertiary pushes us to be less good at using it than dominant Te users. We would just find Ti values super annoying because Te is not that developed. It wants to do things its own way: Te values what's practical, tangible, measurable, is it taking me somewhere? No? then let's move on. It's painful for an ENFP to spend too much time there, and if in a relationship with a Ti user who cannot mild their intense need for debating stuff it can end up badly. I noticed Ti-Ne combination or vice versa is one of the worst in this aspect for an ENFP because they (ENTP/INTP) find infinite possibilities to this never-ending search for the truth. Se-Ti and vice versa can be actually fun for an ENFP (ESTP, ISTP). Se milds Ti down in the eyes of an ENFP and makes it more down-to-earth and compatible with Te values.
All of this is even harder when the subject that's being talked about is something the ENFP really believes in/loves. Then their Fi takes on control and it's just impossible not to feel attacked. ENFPs lack then the ability to detach. Because Fi+Te do that... Unless the ENFP is aware of this, has worked on it consciously, or they are 60 plus so they have matured in a natural way.
Personally, I can now manage better Ti, but I'd not like to be in a relationship with a Ti user either.
@@Mindimalist i suppose that kinda makes sense, but as a high Ti user I think I’ll always struggle to understand Fi. I don’t attach myself to ideas even if I live by them cause I know I might be wrong. I ALMOST never let the small amount of Fi I have attach itself to an idea before filtering it through my Ti. It is pointless to get offended by people with differing opinions. It only hurts you. You see my desire to find absolute truth as annoying. I get it. However I think it is possible to find objective truths if you think hard enough…but they are hard to find. If this wasn’t true then Albert Einsteins ideas (someone most agree to be INTP) would have been pointless and useless. Many thought many of the ideas that were crazy and impractical have now been proven. Now we know more science (objective truths proven through observation and mathematics). Ti is my inner drive. I suppose that’s how Fi is for XXFPs. Just as you find Ti annoying I find Fi users personal attachment to ideas as annoying too. If I attack their idea (with no intent to attack them as an individual) then I have somehow attacked them. I don’t think my ideas are equal to me, but I suppose that’s because they are so loose and free to change.
I suppose that she did not see much of Emotional Intelligence in you. ENFPs usually seek support and solace in others, and they are generous with their support. ENFPs do not seek truths that much; understanding of the matter is enough.
Very subjective, and dependant on many other factors than personality preferences, high caution required. I'm an INTP been dating an ENFP for sometime.. Most blissful, fun and fulfilling relationship I've ever experienced, she expresses the same constantly. I enjoy Myers Briggs but it represents generalized preferences not the essence of what a person is, or why or how two people could be so remarkable compatible. It's like saying the weather is fine, but dosen't tell you how fine the weather actually is. I've dated several other so called more compatible types, not so!, ENFP is my favorite which goes against the logic of this thesis. But thanks for the interesting opinion much appreciated and fun to look at from different perspectives.
Me who has been an ENFP every since my first mbti test: likes debating about every single shit in life
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I do not find INTPs bad at communication. I actually find enfps somewhat shallow and superficial in there thinking. It’s not that we try to force debates; it is just that you guys can’t answer simple questions without paranoia and simply give any sort of logical answer. So we press because we can’t believe that anyone is that shallow in their thinking process that they can’t answer simple questions without taking the question personal. And just so you know; I’m not being antagonistic right now I’m giving an honest opinion based on my interactions with enfps
Not every single enfp is a clone of the ones you met. Values, how each person grew up and their family life give them individual traits. This shallow person you're referring to I doubt many enfps are shallow bc its commonly known they value deep thinking, philosophical ideas and understanding from certain perspectives.
What you encountered was an ENFP with a majorly unhealthy Fi. This does not speak for all ENFP's. I've known many of them and my best friend is one. I'm an INTP.
Lol, u as an intp sukk big time on logic yourself 😅 by saying all enfps are the same 😂
In my opinion Ti and Fi are both ways of discovering the truth so NTPs and NFPs both share the same objective. We speak a different language but we are both talking about the same universal truth. Ti can sometimes be brutal but your myers-briggs videos are a great example of how ENFPs are able to benefit and thrive from the discoveries of Ti users.
I agree. As an INTP I've never known how to show affection very well, if I do it comes off as a bit awkward or "unnatural". I've been with an ENFP for three years now and our main issue is communication, and connecting in our emotional realm. I've never been too emotional or talkative, and my man is quite the opposite and tends to blame themselves for my disconnect. They need to know it isn't them, it's the way I'm built. Although I do find it to be a bit much for me in retrospect, overwhelming you could say. But I've been learning some of the emotions it takes to see a more connected, intricate life. Eventually.
Do you think it will always be overwhelming for you? Like that your enfp should sometimes take their emotions elsewhere? Give you more time/space? Or do u feel like you could get used to/better at it?
I know that the majority of couple combinations are INTP male and ENFP female, but I'm actually an ENFP male dating an INTP female. I feel way more in touch with my emotions and willingness to communicate than she is. A lot of the time I feel like I'm holding myself back from being overly romantic and caring with fear of scaring her away. It can be frustrating at times for me, but she is still extremely magnetic to me. She's beautiful, extremely intellectual, and a great speaker. I just wish I had more validation from her. Any advice is appreciated!
I think a main issue is in the judging axis. I cannot talk about all INTPs, but personally speaking I feel romantic relations as a way to build a bigger Us with my SO (inferior Fe) rather than the expression of personal feelings as for an Fi user. Moreover, like all Fe users, I am moody (normally quiet, occasionally explosive) but not touchy, and it’s very easy to understand if I really love or not. Therefore, I work differently from an Fi superuser, who is more likely to internalise feelings rather than show them.
On the other hand, sharing the same perceptive axis (Ne - Si) implies that they have much to talk about. And they can talk for a long time.
Haha ! INTP here ...
Your are absolutely right ☺️
Actually finding truth and exploring layers by layers is like never ending - adventure for us.
I can understand now how it provokes and pokes others.
I would like to know more about your thoughts on this ENFP-INTP topic.
Or will aslo like a conversation.
I would like to overcome my personality weakness.
Thank you for sharing this video.
lol i wish i could like this video twice. could listen to enfp's talk all day XD
Kevon Bryan haha are you an INTJ? And you can see weekly videos from this ENFP by subscribing:)
@@Mindimalist intp and just did
@@DEADPOETOFFICIAL Welcome on board, and lol average ENFP and INTP feel attraction for one another. I find you guys intriguing and mesmerizing! but it might not be the best match though unless both individuals have done some hardcore inner work (development) as I said in this video. What's your own experience with ENFPs?
@@Mindimalist hmm i really do appreciate the help with this. Im just really attracted to ENFP's particularly even though its not by "the books" my "perfect match" (but i have my doubts about a few scientist being able to create a perfect system for matching people really), i do think its a good way to typify people though, which helps.
Love the excitablity and energy, Love the sentimentality and gushy girly emotions lol and yea....im actually kind of concerned about the wandering tendancy but never dated one and dont know first hand.
whats your take on INTP and INFP?
@@DEADPOETOFFICIAL Lol the doubts about the validity of MBTI is something that I bet INTPs deal with often.
I have the idea that INFPs are even more sensitive than ENFPs, and need a lot more empathy even. Something that INTPs can lack possibly because their natural tendency is to do their rational ongoing analysis of things, without taking much into consideration how that can affect the other person.
INFP's natural partner imo is the ENFJ, high on Fe, which is definitely what they need, next to ENFJ's Ni. INTPs on the other hand have Fe as the last function, so they struggle with noticing what the other is feeling/going through, big time. INFPs might be easily hurt by the average INTP, finding them rude and too logical. Unless they both know this, and try to live aware of the possible challenges.
From the INTP perspective I would say, the issue frustration can be of various ways: for instance, they find the INFP too sensitive and that they don't provide enough amount of input the INTP needs when thinking of a possible truth, or when trying to understand a concept. INFPs can take everything extremely personally due to their Fi and will possibly need more tenderness from their partner than what they can give. They don't need those endless hours of dissecting an idea that INTPs love. And also the INTP can feel unsupported because I think in their hearts they want someone who not only think along and helps them find a refined version of the truth, but also someone who is imposing and tells them either this is the truth with a good argument or someone who says, shut up for now and let's eat this burger!
I tried to make friends with two INTPs a few years ago. I finally had to give up because the connection appeared to be one sided for myself. I noticed some red flags with one person that they would make jokes at the expense of others. I gave some allowance on this for awhile as I was aware he had been hurt.
I haven't connected with an INTP near to my own age. I suppose it is possible that in time they develop their feeling side and get better at understanding the emotions of others and their own.
I know one of the INTPs found me overwhelming and that is fair. At least I knew where I stood.
I think some INTPs can be quite sensitive in a way. Their intelligence makes them aware of certain aspects of social dynamics and they likely know its not working at times. I feel they can be discouraged by this and look for logical solutions when in fact they would be better served by working on feeling aspects with others and how to say things without the message being abrupt.
In my experience, whatever the ENFP interprets/reads from the INTP might be wrong. So you say, he was mean through jokes, and let's say that he was probably just trying out theory through their Ti-Ne, which sounded to you like he was making a sort of joke-ish affirmation of something mean to you, but possibly it was just their own way to play with ideas and possibilities.
I am not trying to justify them. At all. I'm just saying that I've learned throughout my experience with them that once we ENFPs get closer to them, we can't handle their way of being because it's so not familiar to us, neither the other way around. They might feel frustrated with an ENFP because they NEED someone like the ENTJ that say to them something like "Stop making stupid jokes" without taking them personally because the ENTJ naturally understands where they come from without feeling attacked. They just dust off the INTP shit, help them focus on the important things without get sidetracked, and can be happy together.
INTPs find overwhelming that the ENFP takes personally their jokes, ideas, affirmations because even when it sounds like they mean it, they are always testing out an idea. They are never certain of anything. We ENFPs can't just deal with it, even when we know this is the way it works. I'd say, not a good match, honestly.
P.s Sorry INTPs, I do really like you but I don't understand you guys!!
@@Mindimalist One of the experiences was watching him deliberately baiting a person what was on the asperger's spectrum getting them to react and making fun of him. Another was speaking to his employer and I cannot recall the exact words , something about how much a waste it is having children. The person they were speaking of was newly married and expecting a child soon. I can remember the look on the man's face about what was being said. These were some of my observations from over a year ago.
I can see your point in other respects in experiences that have what I call the abrupt logical viewpoint and what an ENTJ would say in response. I have even seen T types together communicating this way at times and they are all laughing and if I was involved I would likely be upset.
Dont confuse a personality type with just being a bad person... any type can be a mean person... My best friendis an INTP and issweet and kind... Our friendship is not easy but if you get them it could be a beautiful friendship... but if i see someone mean i would inmediatly walk away...
I am an INTP and I think you are either not typing people around you correctly or you are not understanding a true INTP. They can motivate people but they themselves are highly unmotivated in the outside world. So some of what you are saying makes no sense.
You might be right, I might not know what's happening inside the head of every INTP, I'm sharing my experience, having lived with one myself. So this is my observation and points as an ENFP. Nothing else than that.
I agree.
I've watched two of her videos about INTPs and I immediately wanted to comment how poorly her understanding of us is but decided it's too much explaining, it's too late (too early 🙈) and it looks like she doesn't like INTPs anyway, even if she say otherwise.
I agree with you that this isn't the full story about INTP's, more like only the negatives. The potential pitfalls with ENFP are kind of true though in my experience. However if both types are mature enough and willing to put in effort to understand each other's types and differences in communication it can still work out. So more work is needed than with other pairings but it can be more rewarding IMO.
These videos provide a great learning experience. You have wonderful knowledge and assessment of ENFP, INTJ, INFJ, INTP, ESTP, ENTP, ESTJ. This is fantastic ! Do you also know Nine Enneagram Type Descriptions ? You have great news about MBTI, or otherwise know as Myers-Briggs aka Myers Briggs Type Indicator. All your advice is based on sound psychology and draws from works Carl Jung, or Jungian Psychology. You have real knowledge for personal growth, and self care.
I know some ENFPs for a very long time and poke them as much as I want. I seldom had the feeling that this could be an issue. You should care more about the truth ENFPs and not just what sounds nice to you!
I wind up hurting ENFPs feelings. Pretty fun until then though.
Yes it is difficult to communicate with her... we love deep conversations philosophical true statements we can test to verify their truth, the discovery of truth is the sibgle most pleasureable enlightening thing for us thats how we build the models of r he world in how to act... i DONT really know her but I desire to... I wonder if this relationship is worth pursuing or if I should ask for another one 😭
Only time and experience will tell you :)
Was thinking to pursue an ENFP but now i dont know if its a good idea
Do not stop yourself because of others experiences. Every person is different.
If I’d be you I’d try it, but would keep in mind the possible struggles so I could take them as part of our nature instead of as attacks from the other 😊
@@Mindimalist yeah that makes sense, thank you for your time
Bro... dont fear your insecurities.. let it flow and it will eventually go.. I'm dating an intp it's been more than 4 yrs.. my relationship is not the far perfect one.. trustme the communication between us sometimes too hard to interpret and understand and it's my will as an enfp that I will always going to work on that.. so don't fear.. if she's will be real and honest with you regarding her feelings.. she's going to the one for you.. again.. open and honest conversation is needed alot to know each others desires and fear in relationship..so all the best.
@@harshitasarote2.0 it's too late 😁
Why. Enfps are some of the coolest people, you're missing out 🤖👾👻
when im around my enfp friend we become crackheads (im intp)
Intps can step on a lotta feelings seemingly thoughtlessly, because of their ignoring Te (which examples as consensual explanatory contextual speech) and their having inferior Fe (which examples as consensual emotional affect, i.e. Appropriate Expressions).
They can come across as having their wedge not glued into their social circle, which leaves Their piece of the pie, still beside the window, being kitten consumed.
Personally, as an Entj, and a 5w4, I find intps easy company. They're quite content to take orders when They're out of Their element, which I appreciate.
Although, They do have a tendency to take centuries to respond to messages.
I think the trick with Them is you gotta buy a leash (one that's technicolor and shiny) and put it on Them to take Them to the park. Bring along a frisbee for fetch.
In all seriousness, intps are really sweethearts. They just suck at unwrapping the candy. Their lollipop is a sour lemon hiding a swirl of strawberries. When They get older They become less Lemony and More Snickers. They do away with Fruit entirely and become caramel candies that you hand out at old folks homes.
Intps are feely thinkers, meaning They can throw a vase.
They really do best with a partner who can structure their lives in such a way as to provide the intp with maximum daydreaming time, which an ENFP would find gets in the way of Their own daydreaming.
It doesn't surprise me there are issues between intps and ENFPs.
Thanks for the video. 🐈
An intp is often a 🐢 in a relationship, meaning They'd do well with a 🐂 Te dom or 🐏 Te auxiliary type.
Have a good day. Take care. 😉
Oh no, they aren't sweethearts haha Joking. They are that for the right type, and you are just a perfect match. I think they are for you what INFJs are for us, being two thinking types that match each other well, just like we do with our feeler counterpart. I love INFJs and INTJs but an ESFP wouldn't agree with me for instance haha
I do believe that INTPs need some structure in their lives, maybe even more than we do and they are kind of disappointed at the ENFPs when they realize this. Also, they resent us for not being bossy, literally heard that from their own mouth.
The way their thought process works is a stressful mystery that only creates disappointment, in my opinion. But maybe I haven't met the right INTP, who knows.
@@Mindimalist I wouldn't say it's impossible for an ENFP and intp to do the eternal tango across the Fiery Lake of matrimony, but the ENFP will have to be the daily grind grounding force, if you know what I mean.
Intps (imo) need a partner not to defend them, but They require a partner who will treat Their relationship like a nation state.
Intps are those guys and girls who (come first sign of insecurity in the relationship) immediately go to the law firm of When Harry Met Sally to get those divorce papers.
In Their eyes it's 100% rational to do that, because ignoring Te + inferior Fe.
If you fall heavily in love with an intp you (you bubbly ENFP) have to kick their ass on all Their D.I.Y. stuff, and *rule* with an iron fist. They'll also like whips and chains.
Essentially, what you need to satisfy Them is not Your pockets full of sunshine, but You really need to aim and fire your tertiary Te and make Them cross T's and dot I's.
With time, They will conform to the pressure.
Still, that's if you like watching grass grow in a desert that won't rain until the last September of recordable human history. 😉
The Black Fence Cat pfff sounds tiring having to do so many tricks to attract another human being. It sounds like a torture to pressure any ENFP or any other type to develop their functions so they match someone they like but who is incapable to make them happy. In my opinion it’s better to leave those individuals for the ones that can make them happy just as they are, while I keep enjoying the feeling of happiness that for instance INFJs provide when I’m just being me :)
The Black Fence Cat INTP 5w4, and I don’t relate to one thing in your posts here. I hate dom-Te. It’s responsible for so many problems in the world. Why would I want that in a relationship? In fact, I like making dom-Te my subordinate. So weak
what is consensual explanatory contextual speech?
It seems that when you talk about an INTP you are talking more about yourself, because when you say that INTPs make assumptions about others, it is actually an assumption that you make. INTPs tend to be annoyingly truthful, what they say is not laced with value judgments and when they talk they want to know people's genuine opinions so that they can learn more and thus get closer to the essence of what is being analyzed. When you say that INTPs want to poke someone, it seems that you describe your own intentions and usual behavior and project them onto INTPs, who are interested and focused on the subject itself, having no interest in validating egos, nor in falling for manipulations, which can be frustrating for immature ENFPs.
Two of my best friends are ENFPs ❤️ (apparently, because I don’t fully trust these tests, yet I reckon they might hold some truth)
One of my best friend's is an ENFP. He is pretty much my brother. He gets on my damn nerves sometimes, but I love him.
One of my best friends is an INTP (girl) and how we love each other!!!! IT's over the top!!! We cheer each other up and are always so proud of one another.
However, my experience on this video was explicitly about my romantic experience with one male INTP.
So you know an entp and have extrapolated your experience you had with them to the intp?
Not really. The dynamics are different with ENTPs ;)
And btw this video was based on a romantic relationship... I have a great friendship with an INTP actually.
In what way is the entp dynamic different?
i got an enfp boyfriend. and it is true that i need the debate and talk about stuff that he finds none interesting-- we are not perfect.. but we make it work! 14 years and counting.
I'm in this picture and I don't like it.
I often get into trouble with spitballing or brainstorming out loud. "Maybe we could go to the zoo," was a potentiality, not making solid plans. I was looking for input to come to a mutual truth.
which type has the best conversations with INTP?
Debating is an entp thing intp can but not as much
No, we debate in our heads.
Ouch I'm late but I'll say it anyway
INTP ENFP froendship is amazing but Romantically it's not gonna work
And Sorry for your experience with INTPs 😂
But we really need High Te users to provide us with the information our Ti needs
informatios is our other oxygen
Also we are terrible at communicating too sooo keep that in mind
And you are way better with INFJ or ENFJ they are more aware of your feelings than INTJ do
I am both ENFP and INTP .-. I have been taking the test 6months apart for 3yrs now and it’s always these two personality types interchanging, depending on my mood or current life situation haha. My extraversion/introvert ion is 51% and 49% and my Thinking/Feeling is 47% and 53% respectively. But yet somehow the two personality types are so opposite and incompatible (so I’ve heard). I’m usually very aware when my feelings are getting ahead of myself (happens quite often), then the INTP side of me will pause me right there and then constantly think to myself like why u so sensitive bruh stop it. idk man HAHAHAHA I like to talk about my feelings and deep personal thoughts with others but at the same time, it’s also because I overthink and overanalyse a lot of things so talking to other people just help me with that process and think logically. At the same time, when i see other people get so emotionally ahead of themselves and are unable to see/think thru things logically (especially friends who like to go for a guy who is clearly showing red flags), it gets me quite annoyed because I care.
You cannot be both types in one person. As I say in many videos, where you have to focus is not on the description that the test give you, but rather on the stack of functions of each type that you doubt you are. You can google it and find this info easily. After that you have to read a bit/study it.
It's not that difficult between the INTP and the ENFP if you learn for instance that INTP is a strong introverted thinker. Ti is their first function, and ENFPs have thought as a third function, but it's extroverted thinking.
I say, learn about introverted thinking and extroverted thinking (Ti and Te) and understand which one you use, which will help you to come up with a better understanding of which type you are. As an ENFP myself, I understand Ti in a conceptual way but can't interact with it very well. I don't know how to use it myself, it's complex, just as I explain on the video.
The cognitive functions in the functional stack of ENFPs (Ne, Fi, Te, Si) and INTPs (Ti, Ne, Si, Fe) are complimentary. But so are the cognitive functions of the functional stack of ISTPs (Ti, Se, Ni, Fe). Moreover, ISTPs have all the cognitive functions in their functional stack which ENFPs lack in theirs and vice versa. Of course, ENFJs also have all the cognitive functions (Fe, Ni, Se, Ti) in their functional stack which ENFPs lack in theirs.
Alastair Paisley in my opinion ISTP are a better match to ENFPs than INTP... they use their intuition a lot plus they like solving stuff. Practical and hands on. INTPs are more prospecting for long before doing something, plus they need someone to push them, which ENFP fails at doing.
Yup ISTP it is. Actually my fav sensors ❤️
Sound more like you are talking about ENTPs here I think.
You are telling all the stack functions wrong! Plz check your info before making videos
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This sounds like sour grapes.
Sorry to hear. Just sharing my experience as I said. Nothing else and nothing more than that. 😇