Annoying Things INTPs Say And Do
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2024
- Annoying Things INTPS Say And Do
INTP Most Annoying Traits - we all have annoying traits. There are amazing gifts we have that we shouldn't try to change, and there are also some edges that need refined. In this series... we're focusing on the edges.... with a fun tongue-in-cheek title. In this video I'm talking about some unhealthy traits that some (not all) unhealthy INTPs exhibit. These annoying traits are not necessarily exclusive to INTPs.
✨ "We are all works of art and artists working on ourselves." ✨
If you'd like to see a video where I point out the INTP strengths: • Are you SURE you're an...
I LOVE INTPs! They are great conversationalists and have taught me SUCH interesting things! I really admire their ability to see possibilities and the open mindedness they can exhibit.
WHOA this video is long! lol It's not that INTPs are more annoying than other types, I think Garrett and I have gotten more rambly as the series has gone on lol.
0:00 About This Series
0:57 What we love about INTPs
7:31 Function Overview
11:19 Ti Annoyances
21:33 Ne Annoyances
30:33 Si Annoyances
41:16 Fe Annoyances
46:38 Growth Tracks
51:36 What we love about INTPs
*I'm loosely putting out these videos in order from least viewed types to most viewed types on my channel. So it will probably be SJs, SPs, NJs, then NPs. So don't worry... all types will get their turn.
I am an INTP but I work in an Amazon fulfillment center, the work is not complex or hard I load trucks, but it allows me to put that on autopilot and live in my head exploring ideas while I get paid to do physical labor. So while I could see and prefer to be in a job that pays for my mind. I like the freedom to think and concentrate it gives. I study a lot and love to consider and explore ideas
@@omarg221 I used to work as a delivery driver and would constantly lose track of where my packages were on my truck, which would lead to mental breakdowns. I definitely prefer autopilot work when it comes to physical labor as well
Same, if a job isn’t creative, I prefer an auto-pilotable labor job that lets me stay in my head, while I think of cool stuff.
As an INTP that worked in Amazon, the task were quite mundane so the only way was to past the time was to in a sense turn of my thoughts, turning of my thoughts almost led to a deep depression, I no longer work in Amazon
All this
I’m ENTP - And same for me
As an INTP, I find it nearly impossible to wrap my head around something without first having context. One example that kills my INFP wife is when beginning a show or a movie, I can’t focus on any character or event until I’ve established time and place.
I think it’s because I exist without a filter when it’s just me. I can turn on the filter, but I need to know the settings first.
I am super uncomfortable in groups until I get oriented to the group norms and know how to categorize things. People see me as cold or arrogant and dislike me initially. But get me one on one and I can be kinda charming. Better yet, give me another open-minded introvert intuitive and it turns into a contest of who can say the most outrageous yet true thing or idea. I accidentally offend people a lot too. Like every day. And then I’m usually shocked as to why they are shocked. I feel bad about it, but I can’t stop because, again, it’s all about context.
Not your fault people don't understand CONTEXT..
its the sign of intelligence...CONTEXT..well most people lack that part sad but true..
But we are heading towards a world of 'feelers' aka WOKE feelins>facts
So the world will count on the INTP to fight this battle :D
And i'm sure we will
when I read your opening paragraph I had to look at the name to make sure it wasn"t me who wrote it a long time ago and had just forgotten I had done so. The rest is very similar to me also, I don't feel comfortable till i know the vibe of a group. I tried working on the nonoffending thing but that makes it so hard that I end up becoming an indecisive wishy washy ....... pussy?.....mumbling weirdo?.....silent person building up rage?......fake?.....
Problem was that I got so used to not be offensive that trying to go back to the way I originally was is kinda difficult.
There are some things that I know I am not. And if someone tries to insult me by saying that (because they don't know me very well) untrue thing, it won't bother me because I know its not true and they are just uninformed.
If it does offend me, then maybe I need to reevaluate things (life, viewpoints, whatever..., etc...)
to see if I should change something about myself.
after reevaluating I can choose whether I should change, can change, and or want to change. if the answer is no to all 3, then I guess I'll just keep getting offended or develop thicker skin.
I need to realize that MAYBE just maybe other people have that ability to do the same thing and if they don't have this ability maybe i can teach it to them. OR if I'm wrong maybe they can show me.
@@riphihe I hate to put it in these terms, but I’ve accepted that most people are dumb and closed-minded in comparison to INTPs in general.
I’ve gotten really good at explaining things on others’ level and using metaphors to help them understand. It’s helped me a great deal professionally (where I have to mask as an extravert for portions of every day).
Lol i can totally relate to the needing context thing. I went into watching the latest spiderman movie blind, not knowing anything about the plot or spoilers, and had to pause the movie at the Doc Ock intro. I was ranting about how dumb it was they were using the same villain (among other things) then immediately had the whole premise dawn on me so i hashed that all out to my partner who is always annoyed i cant just watch something without figuring it all 1st 😅 ...and i have to stop myself fr ruining shows for ppl bc i find them too predictable (or i rant how things dont make sense or are just plain dumb). Im a lot of fun ;)
@@au_clair_de_la_lune You’re already ahead of me. I’m 41 and still can’t wrap my head around why the hell anyone at any age has any interest whatsoever in superheroes.
Precision in vocabulary is necessary towards understanding for us. It also conveys exactly what we want to covey. For example, yesterday I told someone “your incompetence turned an errand into a chore.” For many, errand and chore is a synonym, but the connotation is that I resent doing chores. And honestly, we do not understand what people are really saying when they use the wrong words. If we’re correcting you, it’s really us trying to understand you. And if you are not being corrected, you’re certainly not respected by an intp. And chances are they don’t care that much about the relationship too. I would say one of the most annoying things for intps are miscommunication because if you’re not intentional with your words and it leads to a fight, it’s your fault for not being clear and my fault for assuming you know how to communicate with the most basic form of communication, words.
+1, intp here, its all about precise. in everything.
I've found we come across as close minded because most ideas we hold have been well vetted internally... So while we are extremely open and willing to challenging them. The questioning and scrutiny that had to be part of the process makes persons think we are rejecting the idea. While really it's quite the opposite we are honouring it so much that we are testing it out to see if it can be accepted
I agree! Idk why people think I want to 'win' while what I want was for them to prove my theory wrong by providing facts 😂
This is a based comment. When I first met my girlfriend, she interpreted me challenging her opinions as not respecting them. I had to explain to her that me challenging her ideas against mine was the biggest sign of respect from my perspective as I was giving her opinion a chance to override mine - though I would pick a part her logic, it didn't mean that I thought lesser of her.
I'm an INTP girl, and I admire people with humor.
Most of the times, the "getting into the detail part" happens when i'm doing a project, the perfectionist part of me comes out. And, when it comes to other people, my Fe will stop me from being picky. (especially with the people i'm not familiar with)
Also, being an Intp girl is a little bit lonely.
How do you think it would be less lonely for intp guy...
Have you tried watching live streamers?
It’s hard not to comment on the correct detail, personally it will run into my head for sometime
I get the feeling All INXX tend to have that loneliness (Male INFJ here)
I'm an INTP old woman. I remember when I could get so embarassed at a mistake that I couldn't laugh at it. I can laugh at it now! But even then, I had a sense of humor about a lot of things.
"Thinking before talking" is actually what INTP do.
By the way, in Chinese culture "thinking before talking" is considered as a virtue. 三思而後行
I don't always do this. Sometimes I let my Ne do a stream of consciousness thing with my Ti cleaning up behind it. Often, I won't know what I think about something until I throw it out there. The fun of Ne is it's often like having another personality playing devil's advocate with my Ti. It's like having another Te nemesis keeping my Ti from getting too dogmatic.
@@rogerhuggettjr.7675 Maybe you are actually ENTP
I think correcting lies (for me) comes from valuing authenticity and genuineness from others. If I notice lies and inconsistencies in a person I assume sooner or later they will become a destructive person to be around. So I like to call it out, specifically if that person is going to be around a lot. Not just for my own good but for others. I prefer and appreciate people who show me their inner core without hiding or lying about things, even if their core has "flaws". I don't like deceptive things.
I'm an INTP and out of everything, the one that hurts the most is 'explain slowly' part. Because for me, my thought process is who I am. And how I explain things is how I want to show people what kind of person I am. Moreover, I think most INTPs don't want to be misunderstood. I encounter this situation a lot, where people don't like how slowly I'm pointing out the conclusion. If I'm allowed to take this to the extreme point, there are times when I want to make t-shirt that says, " If you don't like how I explain things, Why even asks?".
Thats tough! My strat would be to give the conclusion in the beginning, test their reaction and then go on the details if asked/interested. During my explaination of details, I check their reactions and assess their curiousity/interest constantly. The less intrigued, the less I tell and I go straight to the point vice versa.
Rather than use the conclusion/overview as my punchline, I use details as my punchline instead (the more reactions the better cuz the person is allowing me to go into more detail if I wanted to).
But my problem is i explain fast .
Yes being told to get to the point without all the context (my words) takes focus and work.
My older brother is an INTP and I can definitely confirm the "too precise" criticism. He used to drive the family up the wall with how much he'd just pick apart our sentences mid conversation, because we usually just formed our sentences to get a general point across but he'd get very nitpicky. We laugh about it now but it was definitely annoying at the time
I'm an INTP and I can sympathize with those people, which cannot stand being corrected (although I would be very comfortable being corrected myself, just not publicly, since reputation is also highly important to me; which is the reason I can relate to this). I really hate and resent society for such intolerant social rules. However, my drive to still befriend people, because they are important to me and so on lead me to really do my best not correcting people or logically devaste their opinions/ideologies/statements and so on. Still, I and maybe a lot of other INTPs have a hard time adjusting to this absolutely implicit and opaque social rule.
I haven’t watched this video yet, but I just laughed so hard seeing that it’s longer than all the others. Looking forward to seeing what you guys mention about us 😆
Haha I know we felt bad for how long it is! I don't think we went too hard though don't worry lol - also INTPs could probably take it the best anyways 😅
@@garrettijohnson as long as they tall about me me me me (for the sake of self awareness and analysis of course u.u)
@@garrettijohnson Yeah, I’d say the lot of us can certainly take the hit 😂
tips from a healthy(ish) INTP:
For Non INTPs:
1. I only do the "corrections" to the people I respect. It's usually just a gut reaction because I basically have to translate everything into my language but if they use a broad word and I need clarification on the situation so I can fully understand what they mean then I throw out the word that I think they mean specifically so I don't have any miscommunication (i. e. Friend: "she was alluring and we talked all night---" me: "do you mean charming?" or the other option would be sexy/attractive, if she was charming (deducted from talking all night) then it's a very different conversation tone than if she was alluring which would indicate he was more appealed to her physical appearance) by asking a more specific word I'm trying to better grasp the situation, but also it's an invitation for correction (like if the friend said he met a "fascinating" girl and I asked "do you mean enticing?") I always call in to question the validity of my own recall for the definition of things so I would want him to correct me if my definition of the word is off.
For INTPs:
1. To help in social situations, pick a quirky fictional character to emulate, make their mannerisms the Greek to your Rome. For social situations I usually call upon Uncle Jesse from Full House, Shego from Kim Possible, and Eda from the Owl House, and then of course, delicately lace it with some of my best quirks and personality traits.
2. If you're nervous about talking to people think of worst case scenario, but then think of the 5 minutes after it too, so that guy you tried to make friends with was a big asshole? Why does that matter? You walked away, got a drink, and someone else came up to you because they also thought that guy was out of line.
3. To avoid rambling or overwhelming people with information, sum all of your favorite topics up into 3 main points, explain those points and then wait for further questions or prompting before you elaborate. Depending on how big the topic is, you can break it down as many times as you want (like writing an essay outline and developing it into the essay with approval from your conversation partner).
4. Let people know you agree with them, I like getting all the facts out there as much as the next person, but if you don't acknowledge other's feelings and contributions they feel hurt (especially if you do it during sensitive topics). Why? I don't know. But try saying "Oh wow that's (adjective), when you said (reference to what they said), I thought about (your thought), does that make sense? Am I misunderstanding anything?"
5. Unfortunately in this world, appearances (to some degree) matter, to the majority of the public. That said, shower at least once every other day and wash your hair 2+ times a week. Pretend that when you're picking out clothes for yourself that you're picking them out to cosplay a modern AU version of one of your favorite characters. Wear black, it hides stains. Have 1-2 sets of true lounge wear, I'm talking holes and paint galore over the shirts and pants. But also have 5 pairs of comfortable leggings or nicely fitted jeans, and 5 shirts that aren't more than 1 size too big; wash, and fold all of them (throw out stained or visibly damaged ones). Brush your teeth!!!! At least once a day if not two. And PLEASE use deodorant. Make a list to hang above your sink so you see it in the morning when you use the bathroom and after a while it will become routine.
6. Make a schedule. Just do it.
7. Set an alarm to go to class or work or even to just leave the house once a day; spend 5 minutes looking at something outside.
8. Mark down specific days where you force yourself to do something social, try to challenge yourself to do something with another person once a week and reward yourself with boba or ice cream.
9. Movies and libraries are safe and quiet so you won't get overwhelmed with new people but you don't get good at talking to people like that, save those for especially rough days. Try coffee or a museum instead, coffee allows for brevity and you can excuse yourself within the hour if it's not going well and a museum allows for gentle conversation with a opening to talk about something you're passionate about, or if conversation dies then you have a topic given to you in the exhibits.
This is exactly how I would write up points. Organized, but densely packed, spaces only when necessary. XD
#4 is the most significant lesson I learned, I think. Learning how to empathize and letting the other person FEEL understood and keeping my mouth shut. Made huge improvements in relationships.
@@ChillnTurtle LMAO but yeah haha turns out ppl like you a lot better when you're not always adding a neutral perspective to their emotional rants :)
who knows why tho
The owl house!♥️
Thanks this gives me perspective. Im a enfp and i hate when someone says “yeah obviously” or corrects something very minor because I thought there were “know it all” intentions behind it. But if its just your nature, and how you process, that I can understand much much better.
Im an INTP. If we were on an island there would be lots of lots of interesting things discuss. But yes, we would starve in 2 weeks, although I could probably find berries by following birds around. Loving your insight into the strange world of INTPs. Not strange for me, strange for everyone else. 😆
lol I think I could engineer traps 😆
@@knifeyonline indeed. We clearly underestimate ourselves.
@@shanegates678 you seem old enough to be around during the man-vs-wild era of popularity. Did you like that series? I watched heaps 😀
As an INTP pre diabetic I don’t think I will survive well in wilderness cause I never think about food until my blood sugar plummeted lol, I am too spontaneous to hunt or farm unfortunately, I will starve.
@@NorthStar_13 you just need to grow pineapples and keep them close by
I think I can explain the odd beat to the INTP examinations (I am an INTP and do this often)
I think its because the INTP often encounters situations where an idea they thought was basic and known by everyone is in fact not and you get treated like an alien for explaining it. Therefore, no matter the basic level of the concept, the INTP finds it actually takes them less time and energy to explain from basic ro complex before delivering the meat of the question. As you said, you know this basic so why doesn't the INTP just start there? Because last time you didn't get something (hence fhe obviously) therefore there is no gage on what it is you DO know. Since our ideas of basic knowledge range from basic to advanced. It's just simpler to give over all the information, as an INTP themselves would prefer when bring presented with an idea, and then to get to the meat.
It's not an easy thi g for me to explain so this probably sounds crazy, but I swear it makes sense.
As an INTP id like to argue that we could in fact survive well on an island...because we are very adaptable when needed and innovative with problem solving.
We have the Knowledge to do so....we just have no desire to physically Use said knowledge 😂...but in an emergency I Guarantee you I could implement my "random fun survival facts" and "there's a better way to do that" quite quickly...so that I can get back to reading the books that washed up in the shipwreck with us in a comfortable hammock. 😂
I was a firefighter and a computer programmer. I did firefighting because I really needed work when I came home...really liked programming a lot, but my mind was always on coding problems or optimization. I stayed in my thoughts so much that when that company left, I felt like I had been in my mind for decades and just woke up. Kinda cool, but kind weird.
INTP I would do well in the wilderness because I am mentally flexible and can figure out different ways to get what I need. Also I have gathered a lot of random information which can come in handy.
INTPs consider wisdom and knowledge to be their greatest gifts to the world. I think one thing that is important to keep us out of our Ti/Si loop is to realize that to understand something objectively we need to have as broad a range of experiences as possible. While I often would prefer to cocoon at home, I force myself to try new things, foods and meet new people so I'm not stuck in a private echo chamber of my old thoughts and preconceived notions. Novel input is necessary to have growth and keep relevant with a world that changes as well. While travel is one thing that is out of my comfort zone I enjoy talking with people around the world to get foreign perspectives.
Reminds me of when I travelled to Korea, went to meet an INTJ acquaintance in Gangneung. Was so inspired by the city itself, being near the blue sea and less buzzling life, also my INTJ acquaintance shared she gave up her Seoul life for Gangneung. Then I went back to my Seoul accommodation that day, thought for the night and just decided to spend the rest of the trip in Gangneung so I travelled there again (while I had paid for full accommodation in Seoul so have to rebook all accoms).
Then I came back to my country disconnected with reality for a week or two, couldn't get out of the new world perspective I got during my stay there. Really interesting to gain new perspectives and learn something very different from your existing knowledge base.
Intp's: the kings of monologueing
Definitely! Both internal and external.
ENTP: "move over"
18:38 imo this is because the small technical stuff itself is what attracted us to the game. All those little intricacies are what tickle our brains. The macro scale stuff (not to be mean) are generally mundane, common, interchangeable within genre and boring. If we are excited about a game, it's usually (for me) about how the mechanics work together in interesting/unique ways.
We aren't correcting you. We are just getting the facts right. We like are facts. So if the facts aren't right. It's hard to not say anything.
I think it's because of the way I grew externally exploring, going places, doing craft, dancing, playing instruments I'm healthy in that area.
As an older INTP, I am ultra-quirky! The Ne is strong with this one! I am always wondering about things, asking why, coming up with weird ideas (many are brilliant, but some are really weird!!). I'm not the typical ultra-nerdy INTP. I tend to be more driven (like an INTJ), and more hands on (like an ISTP), without any of the other characteristics of those types. INTP is by far the best fit. While I am technically an INTP, in the end I am me!! It took 60 years to embrace my weirdness! If other don't like it, they can...
Did you find love if I may ask? If yes, how?
I know it's weird to ask this , but I am quite interested in how things work out for us in the long run.
That clothing thing is so true tho, i love to play with the way i dress but i'll always find a way to reference a really nice interest or a pop culture reference in a subtle way, like use a yellow umbrella, those who know, know, the rest will think "this is a yellow umbrella"
5w4?
INTP who (no longer thank god) spent a good few years as a team manager/Project Manager. it's a lose-lose for us I feel, in explaining. I got feedback that I was too 'high level' like mentioned here. So then I checked with everyone whether they understood what I was saying as I said it all the time, and then was told I was coming off as condescending. It's not my fault I have no idea what the average person does and doesn't know! I'm not average in that aspect! I'm extremely 'spikey" when it comes to common knowledge. Some stuff I think everyone knows, I'm the only one that tends to know and stuff I think I have rare info on, turns out everyone already learned that when they were 10 and they just don't talk about it anymore. I found it entirely impossible to please everyone so I joined IT where I can just be the authority and do things FOR people without even needing them to understand what I'm doing. So much better.
Another wonderful interview and discussion on the INTP type. I discovered your channel through the TH-cam algorithm. Fascinating!👋👋👋
I agree with the lack of bodily awareness. Before, I just put on clothes I prefer and considered comfortable. My sister always point out that I don't have any sense of fashion or whatsoever and I kind of shrugged it off. However, lately, I reflected on how I dress up and tried to be stylish, and I felt weird for being conscious on how I look. My only concern before is being unclean or smelly when I go to school, or go out with my friends and family so I always take a bath or shower when it's necessary. But because of my sister's pestering, I found myself being more stylish/fashionable in my own way and it's also the reason why we argue some times. Though, I can't easily erase my old habits so there are times that I dress up depending on my mood.
Getting your mind dirty with ideas is such a delicious notion. I heard that and it practically made me tingle with excitement. Fantastic turn of phrase. Three guesses what I am?
As a child my German dad lovingly called me “kleiner Klugscheisser”. A German expression which translates to “little smart-shitter” - a know-it-all walking around correcting people.
I felt like I seriously helped people but often I was met with annoyance or an urge to put me down because my behaviour felt arrogant to others. So I learned to keep it in check in order to be more likeable.
Travel is definitely huge. All the way back in elementary school I remember a quote on our library wall that said "The world is a book, if you do not travel you only read one page."
ISTPs are geeks too. If you get them talking about their pet passions, they can geek out for hours.
Interesting... at the 15min mark, i actually find that swapped most times. As an INTP, my INTJ spouse will verbally give too many unasked for details (sometimes doesnt even answer the question) all the while im like ya ya speed it up i already know where youre going with this, or theyre the wrong details being given (either unimportant, irrelevant, or like dude, wrong audience!). However, when it comes to writing/typing, my spouse is so... almost caveman like with his responses, it can drive me crazy (Lack of specifics or important details). It seems like most ppl really like the short, blunt, no detail responses tho, and that perplexes me a lot since no real info was exchanged. 🤨🤷♀️
Whereas I'M, verbally, not very detailed since my thoughts are too fast for my anxiety and social skill level 😅, but im pretty detailed when it comes to writing and often type a novel when responding to something 😏... 👆👇
Anyway, i guess my spouse doesnt fit the intj stereotype of being organized and to the point, and i dont fit the the intp stereotype of being verbally detailed without getting to the point quickly. I DO preface what im about to say a lot tho, sometimes getting caught up in it, so that drives others incl myself crazy sometimes! - Something ive been working on for several yrs 🙃
Ohhh, and i do get hung up on certain terms or phrases and want them to be accurate. So ok, im totally THAT person lol but still not the rambling detailed person without context like u mentioned 1st thing 15mins in. (Does this all count towards that intp nitpicking thing?! 🙃😆🤦♀️)
INTP: interior designer, and space planner degree. Active CAD drafter.
I choose my word with such care because i spend soooo much time in my own head that my ideas are super vivid intricate and precise and using the wrong word would bastardise the thought (it would be like getting a slice of bread with ketchup on it when you've ordered pizza) it's also why i tend to explain everything in excruciating details because they are an integral part of the story for me. Also, i love the universe inside of my own head so much more than the real world that i want to transmit it in the most accurate way possible
Thank you for making this video. I do love criticism, since I have accepted myself as far from perfect and do embrace my flaws, I respect other people who feel they can be authentic enough to share their perceptions. Also I'm all about personal growth and expanding my psyche. It's interesting to hear what people find off about us, I do notice that I have a tendency to repulse people with what I say hehe... and how long time it takes for me to explain. It's just so much in my head and laying it out there in a digestible way for others is not easy but iI want to learn! Thank you
💡 Pssst, saying "yeah, obviously" to someone is often times acknowledging a mutal conclusion and intelligence. When this phrase comes from an INTP, take it as a compliment, unless you have any specific and obvious reason why you shouldn't.
INTP Me: "You can't have opinions about results! That's just data to inform future decisions!"
Then realized that's the fundamental Te 'thing' and went "oh yea, this again" lol
I always think the main thing I wish higher Te people realized about Ti (And unhealthy Ti realized about themselves) is that we're rarely actually worried about being challenged, but we'll portray "certainty" when really we're hoping someone can come and knock down our logic tower as long as what replaces it is better and more logically sound. What we DON'T like is when we see the wrecking ball come in, bounce off our tower and it stands true, then someone says "ok bring in the dynamight then"
holdonholdonholdon, nononono, when a structure stands, you don't just demolish it because your little piece of paper checklist has "demolish tower" on it today and you gotta check the box! You should STUDY the tower and understand how it just withstood an attack that usually brings down other towers. Why is this tower special? if you can't identify WHY a truth tower is durable, then you have no right to demolish it in order to replace it with a McDonalds or whateverthefack just b/c the McD makes more money. That's how we lose data, value, and insight in reality in pursuit of short-term goals. (Someone's singular lifetime is short term IMO)
Anyway yea people hate this "slow progress" attitude at work in the private sector rather than burning up government grant money, I think lol.
The explaining slowly is tough. I don't think I explain slowly, but I get the feeling sometimes people feels I am. This mostly happens when they think they understand, but don't (situation 2 below). The two situations these tends to happen for me are:
1. I don't understand enough detail about where the other person is and I'm struggling to know what they know and don't. I come across a lot of people who have the opposite problem (and I don't want to have this problem again), they'll assume the other person knows what they know. When they explain with this assumption, there is so little for the other person to grasp they just stare blankly or dishonestly nod.
2. I know more about what they don't understand then they do. They are missing a detail, even though they "know" the right answer. I have to walk through the steps for them to actually understand. This one I see the most annoyance with. If you don't grasp the reasoning, or only kinda grasp the reasoning here, you won't really understand and won't be able to have a good framework. This irony is intentional, I don't totally understand how important it is for others to have this framework. It does seem important even for other types to think logically, even Te types. If you don't want to understand, you should probably be clearer why you're asking, or ask a question that implies what you're really asking better.
Am i the only one who noticed that its been a while since she last posted? I hope shes okey...
My time has finally come! Lol
I think i've been fortunate enough that one of my niches is aesthetics and how i can use them as a tool to convey meaning so when i'm too much in my head i'm sloppy af but whenever I have always accepted that appearence conveys meaning and i like to put the forms whenever necessary (well mostly when unrequired but i could if i was aksed to)
5w4?
I am an INTP and I have a BS in Physics and an MS in Environmental Sciences. I am now retired recently but I was an Aerospace Engineer for NASA and worked on the SST and ISS programs and an Aeronautical Engineer for DOD on the F-16, F-22 and F-35 programs.
As an INTJ who is a creative writer, I do definitely need a lot of help when it comes to choosing the best choice of words to convey the most accurate expression. Some words while synonyms do convey expressions subtly differently, and this is where I do need some INTP beta reader input for this level of editing with my works.
I have been honing this skill myself, and sites like WordHippo is really great for identifying subtle word distinctions and how they are used, wheter if that word is used as a noun, verb, adjective, etc.
About the whole correcting people on little parts of a sentence like an incorrect date. It almost like a computer function for me. The sentence will note compute in my brain till it gets corrected.
Also as a INTP I actually WANT to be corrected if I get a word wrong.
I'm an interior painter, but its due to circumstances and the fact that it allows me to delve deep into my interests, debates, and information absorption, but I work alone, so no interruptions
You're right, correcting is done in the pursuit of truth and out of love or a connection attempt.
Integrate and Develop literally go opposite directions? Integrate = inward, Develop = outward/Expansive.
I can explain the speech. It coincides with the need to be accurate. Communication via words (and language) is very important, thus careful consideration to every word to make sure we are using correct words that will accurately communicate our thoughts (at least thats what makes sense to us) will take some time to formulate vs speaking without thinking. Take that explanation and apply it to every word you say as if your reputation depended on it and now you have entered the speech part of the INTP brain. Trust me, we don't like it as much as you don't, but that's how we are built. Hope that helps
I'd love to hear more about female INTPs - all of your examples are male-centric. :P Thoughts for next time
For sure! We're hoping to befriend some more female INTPs soon as we don't know many right now - next video on INTPs we'll make a caveat about that :)
@@garrettijohnson I'm a female, about 40, and as far as any tests I've taken indicate, I'm INTP - and I've taken them under different moods and different times of day, just to be sure, because I figure my answers to questions could vary .. but the result is always the same. A lot of these annoyances are familiar to me >D I actually moved into the city recently, because living in the suburbs, I found I was hibernating too much (why go out in the world? I have all these conversations at my fingertips here...), and it wasn't healthy. Now, I *have* to go outside to eat (I'm only allowed to order delivery once a week at most, and only after midnight - I'm nocturnal). That's helped me sorta socialize more, being "one of the regulars" at the cafes. The apartment I'm in does quarterly inspections too, which helps force me to be at least somewhat tidy (as I am more naturally .. a mess). Most of my friends are co-workers, and just about the rest of them I gained through long-term on-line conversations that eventually bled into the physical world as we travelled around to meet eachother
@@kaydb42 This was amazing to read! So awesome all the growth steps you've taken and the way it seems you've grown in self-confidence. Thanks so much for sharing your journey - it's inspiring to me and I'm sure many others 😊
@@kaydb42 You're more consistent than me. I'm clearly INTP and tested that way in high school and com.college, but online tests try and convert me to INFP. While INFPs are cute they are nothing like me.
Female INTP here 😊
I would've also zeroed in on "develop vs. integrate", because I'm going to walk away from that conversation with a long-term to-do item: "X my Fe", and "develop" and "integrate" would be expanded into somewhat different sets of processes.
If I'm going to be speccing something out I want to get the requirements right first 🙂
18:39 As an intp with a istj classmate it is almost every day. We both go to a vocational school for IT and when I understand a thing and try to explain it to my friend, she may not understand it first hand. For me it is like understandable when it is not obviously with the first time explaining, but I feel a bit frustrated when she still does not get it after like 4 times explaining. I am like "look at the system and you see a certain pattern for our task right? It is the same as the sample that was shown for us at the introducing of it." This example was when we were first shown the Huffman coding (You can look it up if you want).
Another thing that is a bit annoying that I get cut off mid sentence. I am like telling a story that happened me the other day and then she starts talking about something related to it or something like that. Maybe it is like how te works but I rather have the feeling that is just her nature. But when it does happen, I think and do sometimes say to her "Can you please listen to me first? or "let me finish"
I'm an INTJ with an ISTP brother and I'm also a prepper. I've always said I'd want him as my top pick in a grid-down scenario.
INTP: "Pretty" and "Cute" are FAR different things, neither inherently better.(Or as Steven Wright says, "Is she pretty or does she just look pretty?") 🤔
Correction is to protect you from looking stupid and being ridiculed from other people…and also protection from having a reason to feel bad about yourself for making a mistake.
INTP self-employed handyman here. I see it as working in my ENTJ shadow function stack, as I also love to be organized but I don’t get obsessed over it, and I can be spontaneous if I desire or it’s convenient. I know I’m an INTP because I’m constantly trying to find the underlying structure of the universe, and such...
The criticism part was well done. All these annoyances are valid and funny. Would like to point out something that irked me in "What we love about INTPs" section though. Uh... I hope the tone of this comment doesn't come off as caustic.
Even though your personality influences the jobs you prefer. However, jobs that people end up doing has more to do with their education, family background, place of birth, zeitgeist and other qualifiers related to their conditioning. Pointing it out because there is a running theme in the video that differentiates INTP and ISTP based on IT vs Mechanics which ultimately proports stereotypes. Which is kinda opposite of what Jung intended for his personality stuff. Eg most ISTPs I know are in either software development or academia. That's because this is where the money is in these days. Many of those are into anime and video games and K-Pop or what not. Some even like D&D. Similarly, I know INTPs into mountain climbing, cycling, swimming and other outdoorsy stuff and they are good at it too.
This channel seems to be targeting the novice audience into MBTI. Which is awesome. However, it is often the newbs who are likely to stick to stereotypes.
I, as an INTP, Reddit from my OWN basement. Thank you very much. 😜
At nearly 61 I am still very socially awkward. I've been married to an ESFJ for almost 32 years (What was I thinking???!!! Oh yea, thinking with the wrong head!!) who has helped open me up a bit, but I get enough "peopling" at work (even though I almost completely work alone), so when I get home I'd rather be alone and do my own thing, with some minor family interaction.
One thing that isn't commonly discussed is "nature vs. nurture". You are typically born with your temperament, but your personality can be shaped by life experiences, such as travelling and experiencing different countries. Personally, I think traveling is a waste of time and money, which could be better spent accomplishing something. Is that more of a INTJ thing?? If TH-cam ceased to exist, I'd be shattered!!
Since discovering I am an INTP, a little over 2 years ago, I've realized my personality, and utter lack of Fe understanding, is due to "Childhood Emotional Neglect". I am the oldest of 3 boys. Our father left when I was 5. My mother and brothers are all introverts, but all different types. My mother had her own problems from a very difficult childhood. So we didn't show much emotion., As a result, I am utterly clueless when it comes to using and understanding emotions. While I understand this problem, I am clueless what to do about it, since I have no drive to change it. I'm OK with being me. If other's don't like it, oh well.
Funny you brought homesteading up.
I'm an INTP female.
We bought land and have been trying to homestead but I dont love it
I like having land in the middle of nowhere, with no close neighbors, love that aspect of it actually. However, I really don't enjoy it. Way too many duties. I like learning about it. But I killed my entire garden. I dont like caring for my many chickens. i dont like my roosters.
I just feel like I'm not in my element at all. So many tasks and duties i hate.
Other newer homesteaders we now are getting further into things more animals. And I'm wanting to tap out (kind of).
The explain slowly is win or lose trait depending on the setting or the topic we are having a conversation about. For example, in high school I had many classmates come to me to explain topics to them especially for Economics and the main reason was because of how I break things down to the simplest or basic idea and then slowly build up to the main point with more examples that I think they can relate to. But if I do this in a normal situation most people would assume that I am assuming that they would not understand what I am explaining to them, so I need to break things apart to "their" level (idk if this makes sense). But in most cases either they will think I am underestimating their comprehension level or either think I am bad at getting to the point and especially if it is about telling a story, it becomes boring for people to listen to all the events that led to the main event. But the problem is even when I know the details will bore people out, I will still go all over the details because it is important to me that they know not only about the main event but also know why the main event came to happen.
About the develop and integrate thing, I do prefer it if people are more precise about it especially when talking about the inferior fe. Is it that the fe is not developed and we need to work on the fe to make it more mature or is it that we do not integrate it more in our life, so we need to use it more? So, simply, Is it the state or level of our fe the problem or the frequency of the usage of fe the problem?
I don't bump into things much anymore. I do when I gain weight, because then I need to relearn my spacial relationship to the chair. And I do wish i had learned to drive at 17, not 15. That didn't go well. All worked out in the end, though. Envy for the INTP who had an ES parent to give them experiences young in the SE world (weather they liked it or not.)
Yes that's definitely helpful having a parent who naturally brings you into your personality's growth paths!
Since I have recently listened to the audiobook, and to fulfil the prophecy of 38:17 . The anecdote from "How to win friends and influence people" was one person misattributing a quote from Shakespeare to the Bible. After review the specific quotation is “There's a divinity that shapes our ends, Rough-hew them how we will,” from Hamlet.
For a more direct point to the topic, as someone who at least has repeatedly had the INTP result from various quizzes, I often have the urge to correct wrongness when I see it. I can often supress that urge and I never want to belittle or hurt people by doing so, but despite my knowing that people dislike correction, there is still a thing that is wrong and it is right in front of me screaming out to be corrected and as such it requires effort to not do so.
To expand my perspective after the end of the Si annoyance section, I find I don't personally feel that I am correcting a person but I am correcting the information, since I don't really care who is right but I do care that the information/result is correct, so myself being proven wrong is preferable since then I can correct it rather than go forth continuing with wrong information.
As a final point I did find it amusing that the video is bookended by compliments for the polite sugar-coating around the useful criticism. Perhaps more noticeable from what may be an idiosyncrasy of being suspicious of compliments and dismiss them as flattery or a tendency for them to set off my "what does this person want from me?" alarm.
About that comment of being of being on an island alone. As a intp single mom, I’d say that I can survive alone and I rarely ask for help.. but with time it gets super draining. Long term it’s rough dealing with hands on work .
Ne - "taking an idea and bringing it to life externally; inventiveness; sees possibilities; brainstorming." But they can't design hydraulic systems or figure out a way to survive on a desert island. 😉
Lol, I spend most of my time on reddit and quara and I'm an IT engineer. I guess I haven't mistyped myself. Agree 100% right on the survival thing. While I've read and know a lot about it actually implementing it would probably not bode well at all! My "survival kit" mainly consists of consists of multiple copies of kiwis downloads. M9st. Most of my t-shirts have some kind of cartoon characters but never got in to actual animation. Rick and Morty forever! This is my 3rd edit to the comment during the duration of the video.
I’m an intp. But I think of myself as a feeling type.. Lol
40:40 I do it both for context and out of a positive effort to connect with the other person, In a conversation if someone "corrects" me it can be endearing to impressive based on how much it shows the depth of their knowledge. It shows me that they care about the our conversation and have a deep well of knowledge that I might be able to tap into, and vice versa. This is different however, to when I think someone is intentionally lying, I hate dishonesty, and I think all INTP's to some extent need the clarity of accuracy to function and anything that muddies that, especially intentional lying and social tomfoolery, really gets on their nerves.
Starting step by step to get to a point, for Intp I believe it’s more to do with them than you(other person they’re talking to) they are sometimes evaluating the idea as they speak to you and they are usually experimenting or learning while talking. I hope 🤞🏾 that makes sense
I take offense lol. I think we could survive if we(the intp) traveled down the rabbit hole that is survival training or something. plus we could invent something if we looked at some of that stuff. but logic tells me, that we won't be traveling over the ocean in this lifetime, so it's 50 50
How are you guys ?!
It’s have been three months …
Also I want to ask: can an infj use Si ?
(For example) *Or Ne **Or Fi ……
the explaining slowly thing is something you pick up growing up when you grow increasingly frustrated with other kids being unable to understand the obvious. so you dumb it down and well they still won't understand. such is life.
Watching this is giving me so much.. embarrassment cause as i go through the video the more i remember myself doing some of the things mentioned 😅
Correcting is actually about accuracy imo. Think Romeo and Juliet. Data directly influences peoples thoughts, actions, and their outcomes. It also determines where the conversation goes next. Most people give out muddy data. Good luck!
I have met an INTP diesel mechanic...a rare breed.
You typed him wrong
@@Black.Sabbath Gurantee you he was an INTP. I had 2 years to observe him and interact with him.
@@stevedavenport1202 ISTPs are very similar but are hands-on. Unless he was a terrible mechanic, I doubt he was an INTP.
@@Black.Sabbath He was the lead mechanic and very hands on. Clearly, he was a statistical anamoly since the vast majority of mechanics are ISTPs. In fact, he was the only INTP mechanic I had ever met.
I am very well acquainted with the MBTI and can spot an INTP a mile away.
Always thought I was an INTJ, but recently tested twice as an INTP. I'm a psychiatric nurse with a previous life working in tech with a masters in CIS. Currently working on a Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner program. The beauty and ambiguity of neurology.
LOL! I relate to this 100%, but I’m an INFP. My current theories are that I’m actually an INTP enneagram 5w4 or I’m an INFP enneagram 5w4.
INTP here, Survival would be easy, probably be one of the best types if they are ones that have worked with tools or their hands for work. I would put Survival probability of INTPs in 2 categories, computer nerd office only pocket protector type, and have blue-collar skills, worked outside, and especially learned bush craft. No judgment, just observations
The S v. N job question should come with a qualifier, do you hate your job or not? I am an INTP electrician, I fucking hate my job. My main coworker is an ISTP, he loves his job.
You can see we're all intps in the comments section because the average length is 390404226 pages per comment
😆 ...guilty.
My intp physicist husband doesn’t even talk about religion - he has literally nothing to say about it. He is textbook intp . Adhd , bipolar, depression, anime.
I’m an INTP geologist. Though a lot of geologists tend towards ISTJ and ISTP types, I feel a little out of place or lazier than your typical geologist.
I have had a personal mission to never use the word obviously because I hate it when people do it to me, and I caught myself saying it to others. I was faced with the hypocrisy in my 20's I think so I've tried hard to fight it for many years now but it's still something I will struggle with until the day I die lol.
Hey, I did all those ST things, once. It drove me to college, because I decided I'd prefer college to insanity.
Not true! I am 30 and single in my mom's... living room.
for explaining slowly, we do that so you can have no questions about what we are talking about and know every detail, even if its obvious, we still might gibe you info that you never known you could use
Not sure what type I am but in regard to correcting people, I do this often. An ex boyfriend of mine accused me of always having to be right but I don’t see it that way. Some see it as me wanting to feel superior. In reality, my brain needs accurate information and it thinks everyone appreciates accurate information, which is not always the case. I do this more often with the people I am comfortable with than people I don’t know very well. If I am not too familiar with you, I am more likely to correct you in my head.
As a single INTP who lives in my parents basement, i can confirm this 👍😂
Won't lie, the critiques from the Se Te perspective always rub me the wrong way. I don't value what you value, you're reasoning of why this is bad doesn't apply to me. Looking shlubby, why would I cow tow to Se, I don't care how it affects me practically, I don't value it and others are wrong to value it so highly when trusting others opinions. When Garrett says almost the same things as Alexis in a diplomatic way without the superimposed valuing of Te Se I'm like yeah I agree, well said.
You nailed it with Si child being lazy. It's a fair inditement of both INTPs and INFPs. We love comfort. I'll take that fault over the horrifying tradition bound nature of Si heroes though. Si child makes for brilliant Trivia Pursuit players. I wonder about your saying that INTPs should focus on making friends and let something develop vs pursue dating advice. I think apps are helpful for us even if we approach the dates as friends. we are poor at showing our intentions and if we meet someone on an app we have already set the context of our relationship interest vs leaving someone guessing.
Another side note: The secret to social confidence for an INTP is confidence in our Ne to be clever and funny to open doors vs expecting our Fe to make friends. Fe can come in once we've established a positive relationship with someone, but it will only cause performance anxiety or make us come off as a try hard if we take the function off the bench before our Ne knows how to navigate a smooth repartee with a new person. It's better to risk seeming a little impersonal, but calm than risk being tense and awkward.
I have theories about surviving and living on a deserted island but someone should have to do all the work because I am already thinking about another thing that popped to my head and I need to analyse it and I have probably forgotten all about the thing I had to do. I'm not certain about being INTP although all the tests and research I have done points towards it. There is margin off error in tests. All the videos I have watched do not proof am I or am I not... or is it that I subconsciously play with the idea that I might be... so I make it to be so.
Yeah I wouldn't describe it as 'social unease', I would say it's usually full-blown social anxiety. Don't feel sad for us. I would rather be an INTP any day than either one of your types.
this video is the longest so I’m a little concerned but intrigued
Its INTP specifics butcombined with comments in general to Ti, Ne, Si, and Fe I'm guessing to try to build some more perspective around the comments being aimed at INTP's
Word correction can come about due to a multitude of reasons.
1 - We don't want to be wrong in our word usage, so we are asking by making the correction in order to potentially correct ourselves.
2 - If its someone I care about and that is indeed a very small circle, I correct them so that they don't feel embarrassed by repeating the mistake.
3 - If its a random dumb ass I do it so that they doesn't spread miss information. An example of this can be the phrase I could care less. It's I couldn't care less. By using the wrong term you are in fact saying exactly the opposite of what you mean (if you plot caring on a scale of 1-10 than couldn't care less would be a 1 while could care less would be 2-10) and if its a new term for someone they than go on to use it incorrectly or reinforce the use in others who already use the term incorrectly.
This is important because words convey ideas and if you use the wrong word or phrase I might not be able to pick up on what you're intent is. Which than slows down the conversation more because I have to ask. Its why I have a problems with many new word uses or trends, such as the use of they as a pronoun. It needlessly complicates matters and makes it near impossible to convey meaning.
I'm an INTP that is a trucker but I utilize that trade for financing my innovative ideas. Trucking is not my personal preference but it pays well and I work alone so it's a good source of income to make my ideas a reality. I honestly prefer to not work for someone else which is why I never had a passion for engineering but I can see why other INTP's would enjoy that career path.
you said ti doms have high principles,and as a entp I think I've had to bring In different ankles, and they can quickly judge too quickly,I know a few,brother too..open minded yes and no.
I get on well with them.
si is coming off as mistrusting, yeah they can have that "I'm very smart" ..
but we just talk and research,,I'd hate to marry one as nothing gets done.also me not all entps but me and the intps I know, we can't sell,it's a te world.. now enfps are so good at selling I've found.. I go to a intj for help how to sell.
0:04 i thought he s wearing a seat belt
Let's see what's pointed out in this video.
- Too much into details. That's fair. Ti hero is very detail oriented. That's Ti hero after all. Fair point.
- Know it all? More an ISTP trait. INTPs not as much.
- Explains slowly... Let's be honest, INTPs have an informative interaction style, they're most like phlegmatic people and phlegmatic people do things at their own pace. INTJs are more direct when communicating.
- Social unease. Fair. They have Fe inferior so they're more likely to have social anxiety than most other type.
- About the intricate > usable, that's an interesting point. xNTPs in general are very very into systems. And since they're systematic, they look for the best way of doing things. Make the system usable by everybody is something else.
- Lack of body awareness : how is it related to Ne? It's more a Se PoLR problem. About the way to dress and stuff like that, they need somebody to train them in that area. They can't really figure it out on their own.
- INTPs are always open to new ideas ofc but if you want them to validate them, you better tell them why this, why that and back it up to solid proofs. They can use their Te to verify the information. If it's not accurate or is not a source of improvement, they won't take them.
- Very active online and nowhere else... For the immature ones, it's true for many of them sadly.
About the quirkiness, I agree. Lazy? Si can make them stuck so force them to get out of this. Ni critic makes them very critical about what they want. Good luck.
- About the minute detail, fair point. And yeah, Ti hero can correct you on the fly. Haha. Not related to Si.
The Fe part is also fair. It can worked on.
The advice I have particulary appreciated about the self-discipline. Si dom can maybe teach them that. 🤔
Social uneasiness ? Huh ? Intps have to constantly remind themselves how to behave . They are all super awkward socially .
Not always. The trick is to make social interactions into Ne experiences and research, so we don't focus on how we are coming off. Dating isn't as stressful if you don't worry over how the night ends and let your Ne play things by ear. It's where our humor, spontaneity and cleverness come from and it's our most attractive attribute.
I can be socially aware and socially adept, I just don't want to. Heck, I even ran for public office, which requires a great deal of social interaction. :)
The "schlubby'" comment - I prefer to be comfortable than worry if I'm wearing the 'right' clothes, except when it comes to work requirements. Luckily, having to play 'dress up' at work hasn't been necessary for more than six years.
And language learning is definitely a hobby of mine. LOL
Did some googling. Found that a lot of this personality seems to fit me. That said. I'm kinda sick of all of the abbreviations we have these days.
One thing that I don't resonate with the stereotypes of INTP is staying with their parents and not moving out. Cause I'm INTP and I think my boyfriend is INTJ and he's never moved out of his parents while I am so eager to just be free and not be tied up by my parents. As someone who has been living independently I can't stand being around my parents all the time. I love them but I'd rather have my own space so I don't have to worry about people constantly talking to me about how to live my life while he's more of like constantly seeking for his parent's point of view which is actually a good thing because he knows if he can't handle it maybe someone can help him think things through especially elders while I like to work with it and see what possible outcomes I get from my actions. So yeah it's quite interesting that we're different in that way and that I don't relate that much on that part