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  • @KingMusicalMel
    @KingMusicalMel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1206

    Maybe I should take a shot at being a villain... Hm, who knows!
    Here's a link to the music I orchestrated for this video if you're interested :) th-cam.com/video/gZPGTKt2Zhc/w-d-xo.html

    • @user-le8zv8hs8x
      @user-le8zv8hs8x 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks for helping Underlab

    • @lawendabonawenturazimorode6850
      @lawendabonawenturazimorode6850 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      youre a great Guy, Thanks a lot

    • @vladgaming5432
      @vladgaming5432 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      King Mel
      I suggest u get a zombie army get blueberry juice and say its an ancient ellement called 116

    • @dylan3071
      @dylan3071 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mel. uh.

    • @dylan3071
      @dylan3071 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      King Mel maybe If... Well Chara ain't evil. it's youuuuu! ... if you did genocide.

  • @wmastt.b.5102
    @wmastt.b.5102 7 ปีที่แล้ว +845

    Flowey: It's KILL OR BE KILLED!!!
    Frisk: Flowey, have a snickers.
    Flowey: WHY?
    Frisk: You're not you when you're hungry.
    (Flowey eats Snickers)
    Frisk: Better?
    Asriel: Better.

    • @afra4712
      @afra4712 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      This should be a real ad

    • @caeky
      @caeky 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Wow!!!

    • @grace-ds7ul
      @grace-ds7ul 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      WMast T.B. Copied, but still got me! :)

    • @mettatonsagent7541
      @mettatonsagent7541 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      WMast T.B. Noice 👌

    • @RedstoneCuba
      @RedstoneCuba 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Finally something original

  • @meliisaweirdhecc1974
    @meliisaweirdhecc1974 7 ปีที่แล้ว +682

    I dont understand how everybody forgave flowey and NOT ASGORE

  • @brickmastere5535
    @brickmastere5535 7 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    The Comments
    20% - "Jerry is the true villain"
    79% - "The Toxic Fandom/The fandom is the enemy/the cancerous 12 year olds"
    1% - Something else

    • @tereziipyrope
      @tereziipyrope 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Brickmaster E
      10% Jerry is villain
      70% The fandom/ The game
      20% you are the villain

    • @zakariachebihi9389
      @zakariachebihi9389 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      *U*

    • @The_Official_Jerry
      @The_Official_Jerry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      1% Jerry commenting

    • @skyden4637
      @skyden4637 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jerry
      no it
      0.00000000000000000000000000001

    • @rejotronikpulsa505
      @rejotronikpulsa505 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      100% - "player is the true villain"

  • @pancake577
    @pancake577 6 ปีที่แล้ว +668

    I think the real villian is
    the hole, if it wasn't there no one would get hurt

    • @dornkthepanda
      @dornkthepanda 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      JuniperFur yeah it's the fucking hole!

    • @christianbloom2417
      @christianbloom2417 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Yeah, fix it!!!!! But, then again, the monsters would never be free

    • @STB4G
      @STB4G 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      *What hole*

    • @keairahmcarthur6487
      @keairahmcarthur6487 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol

    • @Car-rp8dg
      @Car-rp8dg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sans Gamer U GOT A SUB

  • @nats1113
    @nats1113 7 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Huh.
    Determination stops you dying.
    That means Determination stops you being terminated
    De-Termination.

    • @michellegonzales9427
      @michellegonzales9427 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, It makes you come back from dying.

    • @thegamershark1775
      @thegamershark1775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mind. Blown.

    • @Icanbarelysing
      @Icanbarelysing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING! YOU CAN’T SPELL DETERMINATION WITHOUT TERMINATION!

    • @prdus
      @prdus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinkink of this exact word play!

    • @Icanbarelysing
      @Icanbarelysing 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@prdus Same

  • @mahmoudabdulmajeed9732
    @mahmoudabdulmajeed9732 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2222

    The true villain is Jerry

    • @marsamet128
      @marsamet128 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      i commented that too

    • @wheelmonstermemes3603
      @wheelmonstermemes3603 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Mahmoud Abdulmajeed *yes he is*

    • @brennancollins8103
      @brennancollins8103 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Mahmoud Abdulmajeed finally, someone understands

    • @draggyscalie6494
      @draggyscalie6494 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mahmoud Abdulmajeed Is it wrong I relate to Jerry?

    • @scer8712
      @scer8712 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      no shit sherlock

  • @laceystarsimpson
    @laceystarsimpson 7 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    'this evil possessed child'
    GET THE HOLY WATER

  • @lonko1337
    @lonko1337 7 ปีที่แล้ว +264

    "What an excessive amount of determination can do"
    CALLED IT DETERMINATION IS A DRUG

    • @mlgredpanda724
      @mlgredpanda724 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Person: I AM DETERMINED!
      Police: Your coming with me druggy!

    • @Xman34washere
      @Xman34washere 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      So the main villain of undertale...
      Is drugs

    • @pencil_sketches1833
      @pencil_sketches1833 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This your brain: a random monster*
      Now this is your brain on determination: *frisk*
      Don’t do determination kids

    • @theepic1944
      @theepic1944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well this proof how insanity sans was born.

    • @narrativeless404
      @narrativeless404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mlgredpanda724 If you REALLY DETERMINED you will kill police mans IMMEDIATELY and gain LV 2

  • @d-man9921
    @d-man9921 7 ปีที่แล้ว +243

    The true villain is...
    ...The Number One Villain...
    *R O B B I E R O T T E N*

    • @clairenime
      @clairenime 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      *N E T*

    • @gavinknapik6248
      @gavinknapik6248 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So true

    • @fritz4044
      @fritz4044 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      WE ARE NUMBER ONE, WE ARE NUMBER ONE, WE ARE NUMBER ONE, HEY *HEY!*

    • @user-nd5dn9tf5n
      @user-nd5dn9tf5n 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      D-Man .....I saw something else and I thought about something else..........Why am I like this.

    • @sharkiplier3735
      @sharkiplier3735 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is the best comment on the internet!

  • @ghostybunn
    @ghostybunn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    *"It's me! I'm secretly evil!"*
    *"Okay, not really."*
    Alphys you are so cute.

    • @storyswapchara9007
      @storyswapchara9007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The true villain is Chara full hate

    • @eaterbattery
      @eaterbattery 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@storyswapchara9007 Lmao idk if you're joking but
      *Glitchtale isn't canon people*
      And even Chara full hate wasn't that evil compared to the fear thot.

    • @pendantperuke9440
      @pendantperuke9440 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@eaterbattery and canonically Chara isn’t even evil, he makes jokes on the pacifist route as the narrator, and helps you save asriel with his memories

    • @Average_Moldovan_User
      @Average_Moldovan_User 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      jerry

  • @satisfiedsoul1474
    @satisfiedsoul1474 7 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    10:25 xD "flowey and the amalgamates" sounds like a good band name xD lol what??

  • @jinig4833
    @jinig4833 7 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    Open your eyes people, the villain of the UT world is the annoying dog, aka Toby Fox. Think about this, a small Pomeranian managed to create a world by randomly barking, if I'm not mistaken, right? (based on the secret room at the end of the game). Fair enough, this alone doesn't make him a villain at all, but think about this, the annoying dog upsets the player's path by constantly making the game more difficult and creates trouble for the characters: steals Toriel's phone, randomly appears to destroy Papyrus's special attack, and most importantly, STEALS THE ARTEFACT (which for all we know, could contain the cure to cancer, or the cure to Flowey's soullessness). Notice how the dog intervenes at certain points in the game to create a mess for everything. I hardly doubt that this small pup named Toby Fox is as innocent of a dog as he looks. I truly think this creature is hiding something; thus is more mysterious than Gaster. Also if this annoying dog is as omnipotent as it looks ( and he objectively is omnipotent because he managed to give you infinite residue after all), then why doesn't that same dog prevent the player from fully committing Genocide (where it would make more sense for it to intervene), or more importantly, if it is so powerful, IT SHOULD HAVE PREVENTED THE WAR OF MONSTERS AND MANKIND FROM EVER TAKING PLACE TO BEGIN WITH. But nah, the dog just fucks with everyone, doesn't he? :P Annoying Dog= Toby= Itanimulli= More Evil than Chara or the player! Triangle confirmed!

    • @IHaevATajpo
      @IHaevATajpo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Wow

    • @jacobalexanderleano1194
      @jacobalexanderleano1194 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Papyrus would be like reading this NYEHEHEHEHEHEHHEEHEHEHEHEHEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEHEHEHEHHEHEEHEHEHEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEHEHEHEHHEEHEEHEEHEHHEHEHEHEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEHEEHEHEHHEHEEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHHHEHEH

    • @whyme3544
      @whyme3544 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Triangle confirmed
      Ok

    • @oracle372
      @oracle372 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jinig
      Yaaaayyy.

    • @Entity-dn1mc
      @Entity-dn1mc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also I hv also heard of another theory that suggests that WD Gaster is actually a representation of Toby Fox as well, just like the annoying dog is and that the annoying dog is a form Gaster uses to travel around the Underground. And wht makes this theory more interesting is that we in fact see Gaster’s face on a book in the room where the annoying dog is.

  • @abc-qh5fc
    @abc-qh5fc 7 ปีที่แล้ว +548

    The villain is you,
    You reset their lives,
    You pull the strings,
    You kill them thousands of times,
    Yet it's all a game to you,
    For that's what it is.

    • @mikedropper2073
      @mikedropper2073 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I only played the demo.

    • @pretzelfishesgaming1623
      @pretzelfishesgaming1623 7 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Caitlin McAlroy
      I finished my true pacifist route.
      I haven't reset once to this day.

    • @Fuchu-wq7nd
      @Fuchu-wq7nd 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      You fix your mistakes by reseting once. Other than that I agree.

    • @sunstarrock6336
      @sunstarrock6336 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Caitlin McAlroy Because it's a game, you can do a hack... you can don't reset LIKE ME i'm not doing a genocide, just another pacifist, anyways they aren't real. (MAYBE O.O) -_-

    • @lynnpaardenmspp6745
      @lynnpaardenmspp6745 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Caitlin McAlroy yes your'e right

  • @SilverFurredKage
    @SilverFurredKage 7 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Determination is a force that can go either way:
    One can be -Determined- to set things right, and cause no harm (Pacifist)
    One can also be -Determined- to bring everything to an end (Genocide)
    I thought the message therein was obvious:
    "Sheer Willpower is a force that can do anything, so long as one never gives up."
    What got to me while playing Undertale was that certain monsters could retain recollection of past events; namely Asgore... You can confront him about the fact that he's killed you before (if you die), and he acknowledges it... It made me really wonder if the defeated humans got to him, and fought until they simply gave up.
    I also believe Flowey is an analogue to the player behind the screen, one who has 'seen it all, and grown bored' (which would lead to said person possibly committing grossly reprehensible acts, because 'they can't feel anymore for the characters' and 'it might be fun to see something new'... Which, given the context of being able to 'reset' and erase that damage... seems to seethe with malicious intent already...

    • @sanstheanimator1964
      @sanstheanimator1964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So
      The weed had "grown" a bad side huh

    • @Volkswagen_will
      @Volkswagen_will 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not really, the monsters With Determination Cant Feel or Show Love, They Cant Exhibit Happiness or Sadness,Anger any Emotion.

    • @icedshadow5789
      @icedshadow5789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Volkswagen_will .... monster with determination like the amalgam who cry out of sadness for her son? The almagate who pat your head affectinaly while covering you with a sheet? The dogs full of exitment for a new friend to play with?

    • @carmenelliott3976
      @carmenelliott3976 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Volkswagen_will You’re talking about the monsters with determination and no soul (flowey, for example) because a soul is what gives a being feelings.

  • @crafted_myth2392
    @crafted_myth2392 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Determination can be used for both good and evil. Yes, it was what allowed you to do the genocide, but it's also what allowed you to survive Asriel's final attack in the pacifist run. Maybe it depends on how much self control the player has.

    • @joannetrueman6838
      @joannetrueman6838 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i might have a theory That Determination Is What Turnd chara And flowey And frisk Evil For Chara charas Determination Might have been corruption by HATE the goop we see coming out of charas Eyes As for flowey Determination Drove flowey insane cause its what caused him To save and reload in the first place And for Frisk in pacifist It saves frisk from Asriels Blast Determination in Genocide aloud Charas Determination and soul To corrupt Frisk And Determination caused the Genocide off all monsters

  • @xandernightmare4985
    @xandernightmare4985 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    So this is my opinion to the whole "Chara isn't evil" discussion.

    Well Chara... That's a complex topic. I wouldn't say that Chara is pure evil and he/she is definitly not the main villain of the genocide route but i wouldn't say that Chara is jesus reinkarnation either. He/she is what Asriel tells us "not the nicest person". Chara isn't black or white. He/she walks in this small line i would call grey.
    I'm not a person that blames Chara for the whole genocide think. I think that is the same thing as calling Asriel a crazy murderer for the things he has done when he was Flowey. Although here comes this littel hole where we aren't able to tell things for sure:
    Chara and Asriel accidently poisened the cake for Asgore. Chara just laugh over it (If i remember right how he/she reacted) This could be a way of Chara to hide his/her feeling of guilt or Chara might has really found that funny. we can't say that for sure.
    When Asriel and Chara were in the village Chara wanted to kill the humans. There are many possible reasons why he/she wanted that. 1: Chara doesn't wanted Asriel to die. 2: Chara wanted to kill them so they could get the seven souls to free the monsters. 3: Chara just hated humanity so much that they just wanted to kill all of them and didn't even want to stop there.
    Now here comes the thing: We can't really say why he/she reacted like he/she did. As long that there is no proof to that we can't really say for sure if Chara is A: completly innocent B: Just a kid who would kill someone to save the monsters or C: A crazy kid who wanted to destroy humanity.
    And even IF Chara came out to be a C i would not blame them for it. If Chara is a C than he/she is just what megalovania tells us. A megalomaniac. A person with an obsessiv dessire for power. A person who goes crazy if you only feed them with enough power. Would it make him/her in that case completly innocent? No. Would it excuse all the things that would have happened if Chara really would have destroyed humanity back there? NO. But at least i would say that it kind off makes him/her a littel, just a littel bit more innocent in all this.
    That's why i would say that Chara is in the grey zone. To everyone who has read this far i must advice you to think further. There isn't just black and white. There are many shades of grey (... That can't be normal english i talk here -_-) So please, just watch the next topics you discuss from all different sides.
    Sorry if my english is bad. It isn't my first language

    • @RainyGhost190
      @RainyGhost190 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It’s not always black and white. But your heart always knows what’s right

    • @armintargaryen9216
      @armintargaryen9216 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Your English is actually rather good and you made some good points

    • @shagarakar
      @shagarakar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you speak German? But I agree

    • @pendantperuke9440
      @pendantperuke9440 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Everybody in undertale isn’t black and white, Toriel basically kidnaps you, papyrus throws bones at you then locks you in a dogshed, undyne tries to kill you, mettaton also does, alphys caused the lasers to stop you, Asgore caused the death of 6 humans (2 who probably were innocent I.e kindness and justice) and asriel who killed people as Flowey, I would just call Chara good, as good as anyone else.

    • @underplays4087
      @underplays4087 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So now that we've discussed chara, let's discuss frisk
      We cannot tell if frisk is really the one in control or not during the genocide (by that I mean the player not chara) so we have no idea who/what leads frisk the way they act. Are options are
      A:Frisk is the one doing this no hesitation and the players actions are irrelevant
      B:You the player are still the one doing things such as genocide bur frisk is still involved as they does not try to stop you
      C: it's you. You as the player are responsible for frisks actions and are in complete control
      While I lean a little more to C it is completely unknown if frisk is aware and in control of their actions and if you the player matter

  • @DoctorArzt
    @DoctorArzt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +595

    You. Not Frisk, not Chara, not even Flowey. It's you.
    You reset.
    You kill.
    You play with the characters.
    Because it's just a game to you...
    and it is a game ;-;

    • @DoctorArzt
      @DoctorArzt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      zoukarre I know, but I'm just sayin'

    • @DoctorArzt
      @DoctorArzt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      zoukarre ;-;

    • @vdesatch6273
      @vdesatch6273 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Freddy Online Exactly! That's his point! Determination itself is the villain, and determination is, to all intents and purposes, us. The thing that pushes Frisk, the thing that keeps them coming back etc.
      So your comment is just a different way of looking at the idea in the episode. Wait, did yoy even watch the episode before commenting?

    • @DoctorArzt
      @DoctorArzt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Jamie no :3. And I said it WASN'T Frisk. Did you even read the entire comment before replying?

    • @cosmicyoutubeoof
      @cosmicyoutubeoof 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      wat about pacifist

  • @savage66donttrip20
    @savage66donttrip20 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Flowey and the amaglmates(?):
    Hit singles
    1. We will survive
    2. De-termination
    3. Dear, human
    4. Going in back in time on determination

    • @israelicrusader8766
      @israelicrusader8766 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kesha Jones I would buy that thing

    • @redgames5645
      @redgames5645 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kesha Jones yes

    • @howardyates4848
      @howardyates4848 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kesha Jones I love De-termination
      "De-termination , we must all suvive! De-termination, everyone else must die!

    • @xinomyx
      @xinomyx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are filled with DETERMINATION

    • @jacobfreeman5444
      @jacobfreeman5444 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let's do the time warp again!

  • @jeremyruben1
    @jeremyruben1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Title: who is the true villain of Undertale?
    Me: Jerry

    • @Dfl_jason
      @Dfl_jason 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Bob they work together

  • @chefmott1
    @chefmott1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    It was obviously the snowman in snowdin!

    • @shinneramirez3270
      @shinneramirez3270 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How fast he can move: 00000000000.1 per century

    • @sayfa8547
      @sayfa8547 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shinneramirez3270 he would melt

    • @Dantomer
      @Dantomer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No it is Jerry

  • @treycrouse3846
    @treycrouse3846 7 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    the true villain is Undertail

    • @nyxz2958
      @nyxz2958 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Trey Crouse O_o

    • @lilyantaki4778
      @lilyantaki4778 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      When some one stumbles across Under*tail*
      .
      .
      .
      *TRUE RESET*
      Yes i saw that from a comic dub

    • @greenplushvideos5943
      @greenplushvideos5943 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Learn to spell

    • @chaotic_cowboy9510
      @chaotic_cowboy9510 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Green Plush Videos undertail is an AU a very demonic AU

    • @sans1923
      @sans1923 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@greenplushvideos5943 r/whooosh

  • @Underlab
    @Underlab  7 ปีที่แล้ว +246

    I'll be staying away from yellow save points that fill me with DETERMINATION for a while! What do you think? Do you agree? Let me know in the comments!
    If you particularly enjoyed this episode, please like the Reddit post! www.reddit.com/r/Undertale/comments/63mvpu/who_is_the_real_villain_of_undertale_undertale/

    • @OrangeC7
      @OrangeC7 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I love how 2 years after Undertale was released, we are still finding new things about it. =)

    • @danielwhiting3547
      @danielwhiting3547 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      sorry but i really have to tell you (again) do the six humans get reincarnated as well as the monsters by azzie (asriel) in the pacifist route?

    • @OrangeC7
      @OrangeC7 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It doesn't say anywhere that it does... maybe they are but they just run away?

    • @danielwhiting3547
      @danielwhiting3547 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      OrangeCreeper217 but then they could start up another war in fury

    • @OrangeC7
      @OrangeC7 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Daniel Whiting well, think about it, how many of the humans gave themselves to the monsters? Maybe they had the determination to reset, but they didn't because they supported the monster's cause?

  • @thorenthal6698
    @thorenthal6698 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I actually don't think that determination is the "villain" of Undertale.
    The best analogy I can come up with is the Force from Star Wars. Determination is a lot like the Force, where it is a medium through which good or evil intent can be expressed. Even though determination isn't an actual character in Undertale, wouldn't it still break the pattern of ambiguity if we were to label determination as pure evil? No one in Undertale is wholly good or evil, and I don't think determination is either. The Force can be used to heal or cast lightning, and determination can be used to free monster-kind or wipe it off the face of the planet.
    Determination is not an evil force by itself. It's the intent of the user. Through the will of the player, determination can either be purified or corrupted. It's entirely up to them.
    Don't worry, I still enjoy your videos even if I disagree sometimes! :)

    • @mav_114
      @mav_114 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The force is a good analogy

    • @RedstoneCuba
      @RedstoneCuba 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You make some very good and intresting points. I think this comment is underrated

  • @splat-tastic
    @splat-tastic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "Try not to wake up in the middle of the night with freaky red eyes under the control of Chara"
    Me: Awww! Why not?

  • @randomfandoms1753
    @randomfandoms1753 7 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    "Beware of the MAN who speaks in hands."
    "Beware of the MAN who came from the other world."
    there are only THREE sprites in the game that have MAN in their names...
    Mystery man
    Watching man
    Every man

    • @ald1519
      @ald1519 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The big letters starting letter
      Spell out MMT

    • @Whotookwilo
      @Whotookwilo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ald1519 MANetton?

    • @psy-k-loan
      @psy-k-loan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@se.224 xD xD xD

    • @averagecasual3235
      @averagecasual3235 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watching every mistery

    • @christopherchocolate69420
      @christopherchocolate69420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@se.224 Bewae of the man who speaks in puns

  • @Umayrica
    @Umayrica 7 ปีที่แล้ว +353

    Humans make an entire species extinct just because they can
    Humans are animals, but they think they're above animals.
    The human community ruined games (FNAF & Minecraft)
    I see why Chara hated humanity

    • @israelicrusader8766
      @israelicrusader8766 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sans Sansational nice one

    • @heckicusdoomicuswizardus1382
      @heckicusdoomicuswizardus1382 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Sans Sansational Chara hated humanity because cringy people like the UT fandom came along

    • @aaaaa-jj7tl
      @aaaaa-jj7tl 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      FNAF was already ruined.

    • @gliscorpropagandaaccount1764
      @gliscorpropagandaaccount1764 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sans Sansational *Good games

    • @mikeykitty1235
      @mikeykitty1235 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +TheEddGuy
      While there are also people who treat homosexuals like their nothing but abominations of humanity.
      What exactly is your point here?

  • @volcanic9120
    @volcanic9120 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I see you would like to find out who the true villain of undertale is... Ok then. This is one of their lines.
    "Hi. I'm Bob."
    DUN DUN DUNNN!!!!!

    • @Xman34washere
      @Xman34washere 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Alex_Majetich of course

    • @Dfl_jason
      @Dfl_jason 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Alex_Majetich he is not temmie... He is an impostor

  • @RidiculousTies
    @RidiculousTies 7 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    the true villain is the fandom. hands down.

    • @kylek.3689
      @kylek.3689 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      4 The Gamers And then it turns out sans is just a dorky Earthbound fan.

  • @ack434
    @ack434 7 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    The real villain is the fan base.

  • @Soup_SSB
    @Soup_SSB 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The true villain is Toby for making this game very confusing

    • @imserious592
      @imserious592 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      TRUEEEEEEEE.........

  • @thecaptain4630
    @thecaptain4630 7 ปีที่แล้ว +519

    the true villain is the toxic fandom.

    • @caroleannebarnett8303
      @caroleannebarnett8303 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      The Toxic Side of the fandom is dead. Its just us cool dudes now. ;)

    • @milkbreadturtle8378
      @milkbreadturtle8378 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      ninja of fire the true villain is Underlust. Am I right lad or am I right lad?

    • @rudebabyred4681
      @rudebabyred4681 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      +SaffireSword 27 You are right lad! ;)

    • @LilyTengoku
      @LilyTengoku 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ninja of fire About that. When the game was released, which is when the villain was added, the fandom didn't exist.

    • @draculooloo9195
      @draculooloo9195 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      CaroleAnne Barnett It certainly is much better, but that's just not true unfortunately 😰

  • @steveandalexkillherobrine5593
    @steveandalexkillherobrine5593 7 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    *You WOOD pick jerry NUTurally
    *its just human nature

    • @A_Random_Rat
      @A_Random_Rat 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No he will NUT pick Jerry, Sans.

    • @jaylenhoskins4085
      @jaylenhoskins4085 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sans The skeleton
      *Heh, Sans you're very HUMORous
      *You're puns are very SANSATIONAL

    • @christianeerodriguez6194
      @christianeerodriguez6194 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jay Swag I hate you

    • @jaylenhoskins4085
      @jaylenhoskins4085 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Christianee Rodriguez Why?

  • @vernnastral
    @vernnastral 7 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    True villain is Toby Fox, he created every copy of the game and also made it possible for the player to kill.He also programmed and sprited every code and sprite that details the monster's suffering.

    • @jacobalexanderleano1194
      @jacobalexanderleano1194 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      YOUR WRONG if he was the dog in undertale then why is in the sans secret room when do special thanks with no hit it happens to open he's just sleeping

    • @divinefalseprophet
      @divinefalseprophet 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well if you think like that Toby Fox give them their lives

    • @moakikuchi5237
      @moakikuchi5237 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But he didn’t force you to do it, he just left it there for those bad apples who want to.

    • @DomesticatedDuck
      @DomesticatedDuck 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacobalexanderleano1194 he's sleeping because he's tired after all the work he's done

  • @LynkJRayvonn
    @LynkJRayvonn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think you got really close with this idea. There's one more character in the story that you never consider, though rarely anyone does. US. The player. The player is a key component in the story and I think that's ultimately what Toby Fox was getting at with this game. We, the players, are the true villains of the story, because we are the ones who won't let the other characters have their happy ending. Our curiosity, determination, and boredom prevents the Underground from having it's true pacifist ending, since what do we all do after doing a true pacifist ending? We reset the timeline and start killing everyone. Maybe after that we go back to the true pacifist ending, but even then we never get the satisfaction we got initially, our curiosity doomed everyone in the end, and we the players took away the happy ending.

  • @rabbitshopkeeper7894
    @rabbitshopkeeper7894 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Request: A video on how Undyne and Flowey are related in some way shape or form.
    (semi spoiler warning)
    Reasoning:
    • In Undyne's fight, the dialogue, "Pollon surrounds the area" (or something related to that) appears
    • They both share similar quotes - for instance - "You're gonna have to try harder than THAT!" (quote present in both Undyne the Undying's battle and in the True Pacifist Route right before flowey attempts to kill you). Another quote from the Undying's batlle would be "All our hearts are beating as one and we all have one goal" which Asriel also quotes im the end. Both characters also consistantly say "DIE."
    • Omega Flowey's sculpted out appearance is shown in the True Lab. A Lab owned by Alphys, a character whom posseses a close relationship with Undyne.
    Those are just some thoughts though. Maybe look into it?

  • @disbeliefpapyrus6514
    @disbeliefpapyrus6514 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Whoever it is, the true villain is not Asgore, and never will. To me, this game doesn't have any 'real' antagonists. It depends on what you do in the game. If you do pacifist, there are enemys but no real antoganists. But if you do the Genocide path, YOU, the player yourself is the true villain

  • @chaotixninja5
    @chaotixninja5 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "Who really is the true antagonist of Undertale?"
    Me: "It's Xehanort!"

    • @DeoxysPrime300
      @DeoxysPrime300 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      chaotixninja5 Xehanort is from the kingdom hearts series you moron!!

    • @chaotixninja5
      @chaotixninja5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DeoxysPrime300 I'm surprised it took someone that long to point this out. Congrats. Unfortunately, I'm out of cookies to give.

    • @ahalflifefan6000
      @ahalflifefan6000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DeoxysPrime300 R/WOOOOOOOOOOOOSH

    • @siepie8604
      @siepie8604 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DeoxysPrime300 sad music

    • @ojojojoj7101
      @ojojojoj7101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ahalflifefan6000 dfu

  • @amari5886
    @amari5886 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'd say the real villains of Undertale are: Flowey in the Neutral Route, Asriel in the Pacifist Route, and the player/Chara in the Genocide Route.

    • @pendantperuke9440
      @pendantperuke9440 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just the player in genocide route and in pacifist route there really isn’t a villain, you don’t need a villain for a good story

    • @redactedexpunged
      @redactedexpunged 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In geno YOU the player teach Chara that Killing is good. They specifically state that.

  • @thelonleyghast8975
    @thelonleyghast8975 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Did you know that Gaster speaks in the font Wingdings.
    Ya did? Oh I just wanted to be smart. V.V

  • @deltafrappuccino
    @deltafrappuccino 7 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Wait. The Way The Titles Are Capitalized... How Have I Never Realized It Before?
    My Turn To Start A Theory.
    What If Underlab... Is Kanaya Maryam?

    • @israelicrusader8766
      @israelicrusader8766 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Headset Animations lol

    • @wellhellothere332
      @wellhellothere332 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Headset Animations HOMESTUCK!!!!!!!! 🙌🙌🙌

    • @masonhhoffman
      @masonhhoffman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      PR3TTY SOL1D TH3ORY, 1F YOU 4SK M3

    • @birbddhaGodOfBirbs
      @birbddhaGodOfBirbs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GRANTED THE HuMAN TOBY FOX WORKED ON BOTH uNDERTALE AND HOMESTuCK, MAKING MuSIC FOR BOTH AND CREATING THE FORMER. ALTHoUGH THE ONLY THING HE MADE THAT IS OF QuALITY IS HALF OF THE CHERuBIM ALBuM.

    • @_quake_arts_
      @_quake_arts_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Headset Animations Hi my name is kanaya maryum and i have a PASSION FOR FASHION

  • @kannakamui857
    @kannakamui857 6 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I think the true villain is you because you decide if you kill or not. you have the power to the save and reset and other monsters don't have that power.Chara wasn't the one doing this you were..it was you the whole time...Many people blame flowey for this but after he was killed by the humans and was soulless having no compassion.

    • @snpbtl
      @snpbtl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rainbow Pie I agree. YOU, the player forces Chara/Frisk to kill monsters mercilessly.

    • @aanimations5622
      @aanimations5622 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wowmyour definitely right though i believe that the humans are the true villans they are the people who killed flowey

    • @antoniadimitrova7451
      @antoniadimitrova7451 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rainbow Pie totally agreed.

    • @demonix7092
      @demonix7092 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Huh. Make sense

    • @aanimations5622
      @aanimations5622 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally makes senfe that the humans go against monsters you don't like the humans your a human but you like the monsters

  • @RayOfTruth
    @RayOfTruth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The magicians could be darkners like in Deltarune.

    • @CynderSpirit
      @CynderSpirit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Funny thing Undertale also mentions no normal human can posses the power of magic, only monsters have magic but then goes to say there were magicians. Kind of Wonder if these monsters were instead betrayed by other monsters that resembled or took form of humans? If we were to look at classic monsters as an example such as Dracula/vampires, witches/warlocks, demons, werewolves/werecats and so forth these are all monsters that go back to ancient times, harvesting powers, doing evil, and can take human form or mind control and posses other humans.
      Were there no monsters that might have abused their powers that led to the war among humans? as humans wouldn't have known about their powers of extracting souls unless they were there to witness it and neither would they fear the monsters powers unless they were caught abusing them.

  • @ClariseTG
    @ClariseTG 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Flowey and the Amalgamates" DOES sound like a good band name. :33

  • @Jack-WsBar
    @Jack-WsBar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The true main villan of the undertale universe it's our determination to do everything that can be done ignoring if someone can gets hurt or even killed or erased from existence

  • @Lh0000
    @Lh0000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "try not to wake up with freaky red eyes" -underlab 2017

  • @noahnaugler7611
    @noahnaugler7611 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I always figured 'chara' was a shortening of 'character', and thus, should be pronounced 'Kara' but each to their own. I wouldn't dare claim my way is any more correct than any others

    • @thatonephan2918
      @thatonephan2918 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Noah Naugler Actually Toby confirmed that's how you pronounce it

    • @noahnaugler7611
      @noahnaugler7611 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That one Phan oh really? cool!

    • @gimmethechickennuggets903
      @gimmethechickennuggets903 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Noah Naugler so you say it Kara or cha ra

    • @noahnaugler7611
      @noahnaugler7611 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      artkart I say it almost like 'car-a'

    • @user-fj6ey8sh7d
      @user-fj6ey8sh7d 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Noah Naugler I say Chara not Carah....

  • @completeanduttertrash5396
    @completeanduttertrash5396 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    oh yeah, flowey and the amalgamates is my favorite band.

  • @curtisleblanc5897
    @curtisleblanc5897 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    0:57
    Me (straight off of the most evil character video): IT'S JERRY!

  • @emmytweetie2177
    @emmytweetie2177 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Determination alone is bad.
    But in pacifist, does Frisk really just show determination?
    You can use determination to show kindness, integrity, bravery, justice and perseverance.
    Frisk literally and meterphorically does that XD

  • @sambachelder1196
    @sambachelder1196 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Undertale is a unique game that expands from its own code. If you chose to be a mod developer you are choosing the role of a god in Undertale. If you just play the game normally you are frisk, playing the game by modifying the files turns you into a demon capable of dealing infinite damage, but still cant alter the timeline so much the game actually functions different. Undertale is linked to the real world in many ways, and thus evil is linked to our world as well.

  • @toothpaest6740
    @toothpaest6740 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    DRINKING GAME!: everytime you hear the word determination, take a shot.

  • @NamekuBushi
    @NamekuBushi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Did...did you just call Frisk Asgore's wife around @8:22 ? That's... a ship I that comes completely out of left field unless you look at raintaker's dating trash frisk comics.

    • @israelicrusader8766
      @israelicrusader8766 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      NamekuBushi omg shit

    • @zaheera5164
      @zaheera5164 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      NamekuBushi omg!!!!!!!
      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
      😨😱😱😱😱😱😱

    • @louissanchez6048
      @louissanchez6048 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      NamekuBushi It does sound like that, but I think it is supposed to be "and is why frisk" at that part.

    • @NamekuBushi
      @NamekuBushi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I found out after MANY times replaying that moment that EVEN the closed captions (which has been on point claims) says "And his wife Frisk...". I repeat, I checked the captions after listening to it raw to make sure I heard that right for clarity.

    • @katonbrick8831
      @katonbrick8831 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      NamekuBushi Those Are Auto Generated...

  • @quinnalexander2053
    @quinnalexander2053 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you look at the memoryhead enemy and look closely, you can see part of a gaster blaster. Maybe memoryhead is gasters memorys.

  • @shinayume
    @shinayume 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm the Best Villain
    Everyone of my kind looks up to me.
    Even when I'm almost defeated.
    Villains don't give up until they're dead.
    But am I the villain everyone thinks I am?
    Now replace villain with hero and read it again.

    • @thegamershark1775
      @thegamershark1775 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Protagonists don't give up. Frisk dies multiple times (depending on your skill at Undertale) and still doesn't give up.
      your move.

  • @SuperNoah9999
    @SuperNoah9999 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the picture of the creepy face you showed gave me the idea of my story WORLDTALE, the main character is my OC, Jason, a half-human half-monster hybrid due to inheriting that trait from his ancestors. The main antagonist is the world destroyer, a malevolent and mysterious being that feeds on death, war, famine, and conquest, and wants to devour everyone and everything. the deuteragonists are a group dedicated to stopping the world destroyer, mainly consisting of Gaster, Asriel, Chara, Sans, Alyphs, Frisk, and the recently revived six humans. However, the world destroyer has allies of its own, one them is Maxwell, a bored young man who wanted a much higher meaning than he had in his life. will Jason and his friends stop the world destroyer?

    • @Nikkitine
      @Nikkitine 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That sounds like a nice little AU you got there! You should work and develop it :O I bet it'll turn out awesome!

    • @SuperNoah9999
      @SuperNoah9999 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andrea Kasane thanks

    • @adiginist
      @adiginist 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should draw some of the characters.

    • @reptiliannoizezz.413
      @reptiliannoizezz.413 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmm, interesting

    • @ultimateinternetman4335
      @ultimateinternetman4335 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty neat, man. Really creative. Might have to do a collaboration with you... maybe...? Yeah I don't know.

  • @jaakkohalme4442
    @jaakkohalme4442 7 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Obiously it's King Mel!

  • @Elitalim
    @Elitalim 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Are you a real villain?
    Well technically uh, NAH

    • @gwulph4035
      @gwulph4035 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      U are number one

    • @darthvader8641
      @darthvader8641 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your breathtaking

    • @danielribeiro9678
      @danielribeiro9678 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you ever caught a good guy? Like a real superhero?

  • @swetaanushka6422
    @swetaanushka6422 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The true villain is
    Toby fox: you could never know
    Nyeh heh heh

  • @MalWareIsKing
    @MalWareIsKing 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The true villan... WAS ME THE WHOLE TIME!!!
    Edit: Flowey/Asriel was just a PAWN!

    • @snowflake1135
      @snowflake1135 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So it was just malware

    • @user-zg5hc8mi1i
      @user-zg5hc8mi1i 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      True villain is someone so deep in their ego and emotional trails, and stuff like that, they can't take side of a story of others, thinking they already know everything in infinite possibilities of Universe. Being true to yourself and others as opposite is to experience and express emotions and then decide agree you on them or disagree. Also if story of others can have something valuable for your improvement, it's important too, using best ideas and concepts with your worst is pretty smart thing for advanced enough people, even though it's amalgamate from monsters of concepts and ideas, but it's for the better if you know how . Facts don't matter, they are stored in other dimensions already. Better being true and democratic ( divine principle of Universe with problem of tyrant being able to abuse it) than some big corporations or something just will use facts and screw others because it's not what they trully needed , but can be a fact, that is not needed.

  • @dudeguytheman8962
    @dudeguytheman8962 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For those chara defense squad people. we get it. chara in your eyes are good,and we are the bad guys! now can't you just let people think that chara is evil? let us have our opinons instead of repeatedly saying, "#CHARADEFENSESQUAD" or, "CHARA DEFENSE SQUAD ATTTTTACK" like it's friggin world war 3.

  • @peppermint_art8142
    @peppermint_art8142 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I know who the true villain is! It's Jerry

  • @cerealocelot8278
    @cerealocelot8278 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think Frisk is the true villain.
    He killed, reset, and everything else to give others the worst life ever.

    • @CynderSpirit
      @CynderSpirit 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Frisk also takes the credit for everything the player accomplishes has anyone notice this, you the player is always seen as the bad guy of the game no matter what. At the end of the pacifist route the game calls the character, the player named as the enemy and only cares about knowing Frisk's name as they were the hero. Even though the choices and the progress were all accomplished because the player made those decisions, they befriended the monsters, and brought peace to both the human and monster world. This is an RPG that seems focused on the players actions, it makes no sense for the character to have an official name since they have no control in what happens.

    • @NoahTheAmbitious
      @NoahTheAmbitious 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Frisk Isn't The Villain, YOU Are The Villain, Jacksepticeye In His Playthrough Is The Villain, Frisk Isn't The One Reseting, That Was YOUR And MY Choice, The PLAYER Is Ths Villain

  • @dejabarksdale2210
    @dejabarksdale2210 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    *YOU* , yes *YOU* the player is the are the real villain
    Not Chara, not Frisk, or what you named the character
    *YOU* are the one that pressed the *FIGHT* button
    *YOU* reset
    *YOU* are the one that kill *EVERYTHING*
    *YOU* have the power to *SPARE* or *KILL* but *YOU* choose to *KILL*
    *YOU* are the real villain
    It wasn't King Asgore, Flowey, Chara, or even heck *JERRY* !
    *YOU* are are the true monster

    • @MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard
      @MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But there's a justification:
      Jerry
      He's a whole good reason to kill everyone

    • @orion8990
      @orion8990 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      So true

  • @user-rh5xh5qt9d
    @user-rh5xh5qt9d 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey I have a vid idea "who is using the broken elevator?"

  • @thedumbwaffleman6204
    @thedumbwaffleman6204 7 ปีที่แล้ว +285

    I'm sorry but well chara is no villian. Where is chara defense squad?
    I sugess judgement boy's video who is the real villian of undertale.
    no I don't hate underlab he just made it sound like chara is more evil. At least for me

    • @insertnamehere._.9181
      @insertnamehere._.9181 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      a͙l͙a͙l͙a͙ c͙h͙a͙n͙ CHARA DEFENCE SQUAD ATTACK

    • @insertnamehere._.9181
      @insertnamehere._.9181 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      the most intense spear of justice remix is blasted in the background as we charge in our attack phase
      it fills us with determination

    • @cloud_and_proud
      @cloud_and_proud 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Oh god not this again, you're overthinking it.

    • @heystobit4483
      @heystobit4483 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ggamer 43 // CHARA DEFENSE SQUAD... UNITE!

    • @salt_3102
      @salt_3102 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ggamer 43 dear god. its the anti tails abuse defense squad again... not this...

  • @valeriami7247
    @valeriami7247 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That's the plot twist: the main villain in the game is... THE PLAYER.

  • @mikeykitty1235
    @mikeykitty1235 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    For you people who are constantly listing about what makes humans horrible creatures, you are actually discrimination humanity and therefore you are a hypocrite since you people are humans.
    Sure humans do bad things, but not all humans are bad. The entire point of Undertale is that the message when it comes to monsters is things like:
    1.Being a different race(all monsters in the underground are all different)
    2.Homeosexuality(Alphys and Undyne being lesbians)
    3.Not saving much money(Ice-cream guy)
    4.Dealing with guilt and the pain of being alone(Asgore and Toriel)
    And most importantly, feeling the need to commit suicide. Flowey/Asriel suffers worse of all, since he tried to kill himself but due to determination, he is still alive. I tried to commit suicide as well a long time ago, but for some reason I can't because something is always holding me back. So the monsters of the underground are actually metaphors for people who have been discriminated against and were thrown away due to our society with steriotypes or even harassment and murder. These monsters represent people who wanted a chance to live a happy life, but can't due to them seen as "not human" and that they were forced to live underground, which is a metaphor for how many people who go against social norms are told to go rot in Hell. These so-called "monsters" are not really monsters, but people who take the form of how they were seen as, monstrocities. So please, do yourself a favor and don't say anything against humans, especially since not all humans are what you say they are. Don't say bad things to people just because they like something and you don't. Don't harass someone just because they don't agree with you. And don't tell others to kill themselves just because these people are different.

    • @gwulph4035
      @gwulph4035 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Michael Siegler Great job!

    • @RainyGhost190
      @RainyGhost190 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chara also likely tried to kill themself

    • @AmaryInkawult
      @AmaryInkawult 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Electro Art Studios none of this would have happened if they didn't off themselves by eating buttercups

  • @pokedev8215
    @pokedev8215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Determination is kinda like the force from Star Wars.
    "...it can be used for good..." Like the force, determination is a natural force that both good and bad people use.

  • @CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe
    @CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel Chara (not car-ah) is just a scared girl who died accidentally and came back to life because of the player's determination and is helping you. In the genocide route she gains love and makes it easy to distance herself from the monsters she loved. Ever wonder why she always stays ssilent when you fight her mom aka toreal (idk how to spell it). This is the true idea of undertale

  • @redpenguin5602
    @redpenguin5602 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Main enemy of pacifist and neutral routes: Flowey
    Main enemy of genocide: Sans (or Chara)

    • @thegamershark1775
      @thegamershark1775 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It can't be Sans, as he is the one who goes against every instinct in his bones (que pun) to stop the genocidal human (you).

    • @christopherchocolate69420
      @christopherchocolate69420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually its Frisk

  • @navas9468
    @navas9468 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's JERRY!

  • @spooky808
    @spooky808 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dude, the true villain is clearly jerry.

  • @puppup7041
    @puppup7041 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Neutral: Jerry?
    Pacifist: Jerry?
    Genocide: You.

    • @noobnoobmaster9909
      @noobnoobmaster9909 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Puppup it’s just a game.You can play the game however you want and genocide players can play how they want,Without the toxic fandom making them out as a monster,it’s not that deep,it’s a game.

    • @puppup7041
      @puppup7041 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Noob noob Master This was a comment written 3 years ago... also, it was mainly a joke.

    • @noobnoobmaster9909
      @noobnoobmaster9909 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Puppup well I’m not talking about the joke part,

  • @nancyhead8158
    @nancyhead8158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also on the second genocide route Chara "tries" to take control of her body, but fails.

  • @elli2928
    @elli2928 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU SAY DETERMINATION IN THIS VIDEO

  • @masterkdude
    @masterkdude 7 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I'm first but nobody cares

    • @masterkdude
      @masterkdude 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    • @yeetimdepressed1071
      @yeetimdepressed1071 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why don't you

    • @marsamet128
      @marsamet128 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      k then dont comment

    • @Wojtackic
      @Wojtackic 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Masterkdude yeah....

    • @savage66donttrip20
      @savage66donttrip20 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Masterkdude don't worry i care! Don't let these haters get to you. Have a lovely day!!

  • @RDN-zq1fk
    @RDN-zq1fk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    hello reader you are awesome and nice for reading this

  • @dawsonjune3383
    @dawsonjune3383 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm late to the party, but from watching your video, something occurred to me.
    The six souls all represent something, a virtue - namely, Patience, Bravery, Integrity, Perseverance, Kindness, and Justice.
    Chara and Frisk both have red souls - the trait is "Unknown." However, one may assume that the trait is Determination. From our knowledge of humans, these should have had the same strength of soul that Frisk had at the beginning. However, unlike Frisk, they all died. We can surmise that Perseverance is not the same as Determination, they are separate forces. So it is not Patience, Bravery, Integrity, Perseverance, Kindness, or Justice that sees Frisk through the Underground, but Determination.
    This may imply that Determination is something other than the forces the other souls used.

  • @AlexMourning5635
    @AlexMourning5635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm wondering why he never mentions how Undyne suddenly overflows with determination, turning her into the "Heroine" and it ends up killing her any time you try to kill her.

  • @heystobit4483
    @heystobit4483 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The true villian is obviously *_-Jerry-_*

  • @salt_3102
    @salt_3102 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Everyone knows the real villain is Jerry.

  • @howardyates4848
    @howardyates4848 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Also I believe you're missing the point. One of the main lessons you learn while playing Undertale is that no one is truly evil, and everyone deserves a second chance. This whole theroy goes aginst that lesson, and isn't that good

    • @azkabaz
      @azkabaz 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Preach.

    • @truewillow4138
      @truewillow4138 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Howard Yates I hate these comments. WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO!

  • @GallantGriffinGaming
    @GallantGriffinGaming 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an idea for a future video: When did Toriel tell Sans to protect the human? When did she have the time when you came?

  • @bamboo8695
    @bamboo8695 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're putting so much thought to these theories. Not even Toby himself thought that far.

  • @Voidbear_FNaF_and_Undertale
    @Voidbear_FNaF_and_Undertale 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Do you take ideas for theories?

  • @thebrotherhood2744
    @thebrotherhood2744 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The true villan in undertale is Undertail!!!!!

  • @et6858
    @et6858 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Looking thru the videos. Cant escape the Undertale Animation Clickbait.

    • @et6858
      @et6858 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ace Goutro Sans and Toriel | Sans and pap | Papurys and Mettaton

    • @et6858
      @et6858 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ace Goutro its like your WObestRST nightmare

  • @boredBiologist
    @boredBiologist 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:08 No, Alphys says they lack the physical matter to hold Determination, as their bodies are made of magic. Also it seems humans can use magic, if they die in the process.

  • @elisibethjames7488
    @elisibethjames7488 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Motivation is Everything.
    *Toriel* wants to keep everyone safe.
    *Sans* wants to uphold a promise and still protect/avenge his brother.
    *Papyrus* wants to feel wanted.
    *Undyne* wants to protect her kind and bring justice to the Humans above.
    *Napstablook* misses his cousin, and we interrupt his pity-party (I have no clue how else to put this.)
    *Alphys* wants to make a friend and forget her mistakes
    *Mettaton* wants to be famous, and wants to delay Asgore’s plan
    *Asgore* wants to avenge his children
    *Chara* wants to bring their family to the surface
    *Flowey* wants to, Well, feel.
    We teach *Toriel* that we are stronger than we think, *Papyrus* that he is already loved more than he will ever know, *Undyne* that there is a danger to stereotypes, *Alphys* to face her mistakes, *Mettaton* that you can’t run from the past, *Napstablook* that there will always be someone who cares, *Asgore* to honor the past but not cling to it, *Flowey* that life is more than kill or be killed, and *Chara* that there is another way.
    In the same way, *Toriel* teaches us Patience, *Papyrus* teaches Kindness, *Undyne* teaches us Justice, *Napstablook* teaches us Trust, *Alphys* teaches us Integrity, *Mettaton* teaches us Bravery, *Asgore* teaches us Perseverance, *Asriel* teaches us Hope, *Chara* teaches us to stay Determined, and *Frisk* teaches us that we are NOT above Consequences.
    I’m sorry, this was random thinking. Eh, hope you enjoy anyways.

  • @emmytweetie2177
    @emmytweetie2177 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    IT'S THE DOG

  • @DuyKhaSW
    @DuyKhaSW 7 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    ARE YOU A REAL VILLAIN?

  • @goldenopportunity4544
    @goldenopportunity4544 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I don't think Asgore is a bad guy.

    • @wheelmonstermemes3603
      @wheelmonstermemes3603 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Golden Opportunity HE DIDN'T SAY HE WAS

    • @Nova-uq9nw
      @Nova-uq9nw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Golden Opportunity He's not a bad guy, but he still killed six humans. You really can't deny it.

    • @cupheadadaykeepsthedevilaw6675
      @cupheadadaykeepsthedevilaw6675 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Arceus Nova can't deny he killed them but he is doing it despite it hurts his morale, have his wife moved away from him just for the sake of his people to break free.

    • @cupheadadaykeepsthedevilaw6675
      @cupheadadaykeepsthedevilaw6675 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also Asgore is the best character to me

    • @swaspwasp8487
      @swaspwasp8487 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeah he is a GOOD guy NOT evil he is just doing whats best for HIS KINGDOM.
      also the fandom is the real villin because they make robots with child souls fuck eachother and they make toriel look like a sexest

  • @temmiedatem1467
    @temmiedatem1467 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It was wiserds
    They can use magic and have determination
    Wait.... Can humans melt from magic

  • @marioperez-kj9vl
    @marioperez-kj9vl 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Calling determination evil is like calling the force evil because it's used by Sith or calling sugar evil because to much can hurt you. A thing/force can't be evil, only the person/situation it's used in.

  • @jetpackblues9193
    @jetpackblues9193 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The real villain is Betty

    • @Moonnamaka
      @Moonnamaka 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jetpack Blues
      It's Glitchtale all over again! 😂

  • @leoncaballer
    @leoncaballer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    hey everyone

  • @silversheik4252
    @silversheik4252 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    My b-day is in 4 days!

    • @redgames5645
      @redgames5645 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Silver Sheik no offense but that's something irrelevant to the video

    • @silversheik4252
      @silversheik4252 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      phantom freddy Welp you got a point so.......

    • @matthewderong3060
      @matthewderong3060 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      my birthday is in 6 ☹️

    • @matthewderong3060
      @matthewderong3060 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I meant to say 6 months

    • @scotty5178
      @scotty5178 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      cool

  • @dvzz6285
    @dvzz6285 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The weird thing is that alphys called the recently deceased monsters "fallen down" and fallen down happens when toriel meets you and she probably says it i think.
    Maybe this implies undertale is a dream or a post death experience

  • @konpeitoko895
    @konpeitoko895 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Underlab, you should totally do a vid on what's in Asgore's house's basement.... Bc in Toriel's house, it was the way out of the ruins, while in Asgore's home, it's blocked off...