An Irregular Fleet: Breen Fleet Doctrine & Organisation
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- Today at long last, we finally take a look at the Breen Fleet of the Dominion War. at the time of it entering the War, The Breen Confederacy was an Unknown power in the Alpha quadrant. today we take a closer look at their ships, from their smallest Destroyers to their largest carriers. and Examine how these ships come together to form the newest combatant in the ever expanding dominion war.
Screenshots by the 4th Combined Fleet and my Community.
Special Thanks to www.deviantart...
they bring their princess leai bounty hunter helmets
Star wars is a woke pile of garbage
"50,000 no less!"
😂 U guyz are on it!
I’ll never unsee that lol
Its not just the mass production factor of their modular ships, but the fact after a battle you can make a new ship from the wrecks of THREE ships for example. It would make a war of attrition harder against them.
Yeah easy salvage
The suicide attack on Earth with which the Breen announced their entry into the war is worth examining in itself.
It certainly is... (next week.)
@@venomgeekmedia9886 👀
Id love a Star Trek show that would be in a documentary fashion set in the future, each episode would be a past battle, that attack on Earth would be one of many to be covered in depth.
@@venomgeekmedia9886will there be more ground war vids or any about boarding actions
did a couple of specials on that topic. what else were you thinking?@@skywarp8726
Never turn your back on a Breen, and do NOT boop the snoot.
#EyesOnBreen
The Breen are a very mysterious but dangerous species not to be messed nor underestimated.
Considering how the Breen use the Borg tractor beam, this shows somewhat of a pattern that they usually go for shield or energy draining weapons.
Such a fascinating species, though a massive plot contrivance.
Reminds me a bit of the nomadic horsemen of the east, like early Mongols or Tartars. Organized by fluid allegiences of small clans. They are light missile cavalry, suited for lightening swirling attacks. Deadly, but they had better not be caught in a melee with armored horsemen.
Imagine Wayoung on his Star Destroyer talking to a group of Breen captains:
"there will be a substantial reward for the Breen Crew that captures the USS Defiant, and i want Sisko alive...NO DISINTEGRATIONS!"
Amazing video, and it's interesting to note that even though they are a minor power, the Breen were able to enter the war with quite an impressive amount of organization and power. They were able to come out of the gate swinging with 5 fleets (they immediately lost one at Earth but still) and were able to muster 7 fleets in only a few months. I'm sure Gowron was shooting batleths with his ridiculous eyes at his logistics officers after seeing this.
Yes. The breen certainly are efficient even if it is a loose confederacy there's enough central control to allow rapid mobilisation
@@venomgeekmedia9886 It is worth to note that early Starfleet, during Kelvin and TOS Era (not confuse with TOS show and Kelvin Timeline, what actually take place after) also were highly modular. What correlated to fact that Federation in early 23'th century, was still relatively small. Because of that It was relatively easy to upgrade entire fleet, after Federation lost majority of new ships to Klingons (another interesting note, Discovery design is in fact based on rare ships from Wolf 359). This lead to TMP revolution, though in this case they introduce idea of internal modularity. Which is why ships look the same for 100 years. Evolution of Starfleet design philosophy, is interesting topic on its own.
Forgiven for two years. I like the theme of blades in the design language. The slow, silent knife, a perfect weapon for an assassin in the dark, which is what I think the Breen really represent. A deadly threat up close and unseen... but not something you'd put on the frontline.
Splendid as always!!!
"Undetected UNEXPECTED!"
😭 I've never heard my Breen put that way (sniff) ... so beautiful
The Breen are so interesting as a faction, there ships are so powerful that they change the course of the war more than the larger Cardassian union ever did. But they aren't an outwardly aggressive power seming to be more isolationist, if they were as outgoing as kilingons then they would be probly be pretty dangerous
This is complete head canon but I like to think the the 6 blades represent the 6 different species in the Confederacy and the ship shows the 6 working as 1 (both metaphorically and literally)
Love your content dude ❤️
It would be funny if the Breen were an offshoot of the Hirogen. They both wear suits and are extremely aggressive. We know that their ancient space array network ends next to Federation and Romulan space which is close to where Breen space is.
Possibly. Similar to the kzinti, lyrans and catians all feline species in the alpha quadrant. Perhaps related.
In the recent novels they are a true Confederacy, made of multiple species, including the Fenrisal (somewhat canoid) and the Paclu, with multiple lobed brains; plus the Amoniri (who do not have blood)
All wear the same amour though, and often intermingle.
Ps, Lyrans may be Beta Quadrant based...
Intrepid is a bleeding edge, no compromise, high performance machine made of the best technology starfleet had. The Idea that something, at least at sublight in the same weight class as an Intrepid can keep up and even outpace Intrepid is a pretty incredible feat and says a lot of the Breen engineering and specialisation, compared to Starfleet's generalisation.
The Modular frame with plug-in modules concept isn't something we usually see in trek and I don't think have ever seen done to this extreme. The Industrial advantages to doing so would seem to be substantial.
I would imagine that the Breen probably don't have cloaking devices, but certainly have other integrated Stealth technologies and well versed in stealth techniques owed to their history of Piracy.
Just saying, The Breen never dared take on Deep Space nine after the Yeager was posted there.
good point
@@venomgeekmedia9886 they don't want to mess with the raccoon in the garage.
And the Breen were never heard from again.
An interesting overview being made on the Breen fleets. Of the major powers of the Dominion War, they are quite the deadly wildcard.
One wonders why their dynamics developed and how the events of Dominion War change their outlook.
According to the Galactic map, the Breen, Tholians and Sheliak have MASSIVE territories adjacent to each other rivaling the Federation's. If they ever decided to join forces... 💀
The Dominion War would've been even worse.
They're mysterious and organise themselves into groups called stars and clusters?
Well I guess we know what happened to the Alexander Kerensky and the SLDF
Yeah I may have taken some inspiration...
@@venomgeekmedia9886 *(Distant sounds of Polka Music and Warcrimes)*
@@weldonwinevery time I hear that damned Polka music I have to go out and cajole that ancient reactor in my MadCat into starting without blowing up the neighborhood...
I always assumed the helmet was either to accommodate a muzzle or to have a simular silhouette to the head of a homeworld predator.
There should be designated storyline production focus on Breen in StarTrek.We know very little about them regarding their technology and even origin.They were using bioneural tech long before Voyager so their culture must be ancient than Human. In addition, the Breen deserve credits for the fact of even Klingons think twice to mess with them.
And any Klingons that does is either a fool or crazy level of courage.
Could we get a segment on combat at warp? I would imagine the theater turns rather one dimensional being in lines and more calculations than maneuvering.
covered it a while back th-cam.com/video/P7FZhBxda98/w-d-xo.htmlsi=7mwt-bqi2R8mZsWX
How the heck did the Breen get their paws on Borg tech?!
Lots of space in the galaxy. Maybe they found a dead Borg ship somewhere.
With extreme difficulty.
Great video. Wish they had someone like you on the writing staff!
Sorry to bring it up if it was covered in previous videos but it intrigue me why breen bother to join the war in the first place ? Ok there is a hint that there was possible infiltration by the dominion in their command/government structure but breen would have to be given some big reason to join that war at all (given their isolationist nature).
Great vid as always VGM!
The Dominion offered them a certain number of Cardassian-held systems to join the war (which caused some upset with the Cardassian leadership and eventual split between Cardassia and the Dominion). The offer of expanded territory and possible infiltration you mentioned brought them in on the Dominion's side.
I'd love to see you do a partner video with resurrected starships and see if it would be possible to bring one of your battle scenarios to an full-fledged animation that would be something very interesting to see
I'd be down if he is...
I love how all the ships you showed im already 3d printing. Loge it!!!
Great video! Did we ever get an explanation as to why the Breen joined the war on the Dominion's side, breaking their history of isolation to side with a new player when it looked like things were not going their way?
The Breen were offered some Cardasion held systems to join the war, the Cardasion were not happy with this deal
the Cluster being what was it 4-6 stars is an interesting idea for a unit though you did say its still specialized. though and this would be a very western WW2 style cluster though i would like i know if such would be deployed
Carrier Star
- 4 carriers
-1 cruiser (start and cluster command)
2 destroyer stars
- 4 destroyers of various types
- 1 crab (star command)
2 figate stars
- 5 frigates of crab or standard type
1 lancer star
-5 lancers
a bit larger than the 20 ships but i feel this leverages the carriers ability to use what sounded like very good strike craft with enough escorts and tactical flexibility to achive many roles in warfare whether it be fighter support for a larger fleet or independant raiding and harrasment.
This, this is just absolutely awesome. Tjis would have made a great arc in DS9. The use of a seismic event to take down SF dome shields epic!!! Paradise Down!! Great ST Lore! Remember Earth 10-1!
Yes! This is how you Nerd.
That poor whitewind at 18:18 lol
I would love to see you do videos on fleet tactics of each faction. Like are they more likely to retreat or fight to the last. Or what is most likely to change how they attack an enemy vessel
I’ve had no internet for a few days so catching up on my viewing backlog. I like the Breen ship and it’s one of my favourite non federation ship. I also love the modular design. When it comes to federation ships, I love when ships of the same generation use many of the same components
I had been told we would also be getting a solo recitation by you of a Breen's children's song, "Baby Reef Consumer." Guessing that will be coming out as a Short?
I really like the nuance of the Breen tech and style, nicely separate from the other alien races and still quite formidable despite their inherent weaknesses.
I wonder if you will someday do videos about the Alliance in Firefly and Serenity, and the lore in that sci-fi series.
With their long and thin cruiser, it actually logically should be able to turn relatively well. Reason being the leverage from thrust vectoring the engines along with bow mounted thrusters would be pretty great for swinging the vehicle around.
I'm so happy you were finally able to get to this. The Breen are one of my favorites. Great job man
I’ve Breen waiting for this
So does this mean the Battle of Earth is coming soon? I’ve been realy looking forward to this one more than any of the other apocalypse ones
Good information I hope you do one about the battle for earth with the Breen.
oh don't worry its on its way...
This would suggest to me that for the Siege of Cardassia that Thot Gor might have been looking for an easier escape. It would be a lot easier to cut and run if he and his Command staff was already in orbit if the battle went too far south.
"im going to join my troops! (aboard a ship that can escape lol)"
@@venomgeekmedia9886 I always liked " Step away lively!"
Remember that the Klingons in the past sent an invasion force to conquer the Breen. They were never heard from again. So they do appear to be very good at combat.
I always think the Breen look like Princess Leia when she was disguised as a Bounty Hunter in Return of the Jedi.
Thanks for this breakdown of the Breen fleet, interesting to watch.
No one knows what they look like, yet Kira stripped one and took its uniform.
Did she do it with her eyes closed?
Yeah, Kira and Gul Dukot. My head canon is that they raided a Breen laundry.... 😄
@@gamera9774 and left an unfortunate breen behind without his suit in said laundry.
I read that the Breen are sapient humanoid polar bears, hence the snout helmet and the refrigeration suits. This was in a post DS9 novel. They evolved on an ice world. However, there are several races belonging to the Breen Confederacy.
Archer knows what they look like.
I think there was a comic that has them as Canine faced alien species who need the cold to survive. It’s also revealed that they may also be multiple species but cover themselves up to make everyone equal.
I think the Battletech Clans may be declaring Batchall against the Breen for ripping off their organizational structure :P
"Prepare to feel the wrath of the falcons claws!"
Nice one. I decided to start on the whole war series again.
I was shocked to discover that you had the start of the war and the raid on the Torros 3 shipyards ... but you haven't got the attack on DS9.
Extreeemely satisfying video.
Would be interesting to see how the Breen would fight the Borg. Their weapons being able to disrupt power systems could be pretty effective.
I think it would have been cool to see the Breen in Picard in some capacity. In DS9 they were quite eery in those suits and made for a very good villain imo.
They look like Princess Leia. Tell me they don’t look like her bounty hunter outfit. That has to be a thing. ROTJ crossover we all needed. Engage!
Great vid as always. Kudos!
Sounds like the Breen would be better up sticking to a guerrilla type of warfare, which their tactical doctrine and ships made them best suited to. While getting involved in a war, where set piece and massive scale battles were the norm.
Thot Zan approves of this video
great video. i need to see an episode, don't care which star trek it is, where there is some kind of reciprocity for the attack on earth. i always felt they got off far too easy, like the dominion terms of surrender should have been different for the breen. or maybe a campaign into breen space. something would make me happy
Stipulate as part of the treaty that the Feds/Klingons/Romulans can build a space station in Breen space that serves as an embassy, with the Breen obligated to protect it from attack.
that ain't good enough for me@@matthewtulberg2252
We need to see more about the breen. I would love a new series that has a heavy breen influence. Just in the ds9 style of star trek and not the new shite
How do you define privateering vs pirate?
In traditional sense privateering is when you're operating under the sponsorship of a specific state and are considered an agent of them to some degree, and piracy is primarily independent operations.
So given the Breen are xenophobic and commerce oriented, how do these work?
And why are the Breen 'larger' ships called frigates vs destroyers? In normal convention it tends to go the other way around
Pirates tend to act only for themselves usually for financial reasons
Privateers while do carry out raiding/piracy on the behalf of a state/organisation but can be when the need arises be formed into battle formations to defend said state
0:55 we don't know what a Breen looks like.
Well, if I was a betting man, I'd wager they look human with some exaggerated features, like brow ridges, or pointy ears. Something like that.
you never know... they might be an exception lol
I notice this has cards for Cruisers and Frigates. Can we expect those Factions Compared videos in the near-ish future?
Jolan Tru.
ROmulans have had relations with The Breen as well. Ferengi might know more, because Breen do live in Ferenginar. or atleast own the polar regions of the planet.
Once more information becomes available I hope you consider doing a video of the Gorn.
Cool thanks
Interesting how you kept saying how fragile the Breed ships are. When we first saw them the Defiant was blowing them apart for fun. It was the energy dampening weapon that made them such a challenge. Once that was solved I don't know how much of a danger they were to the heavier ship classes of the Federation/Klingon/Romulan alliance.
"The Breen are far less interested in aggression and far more interested in survival."
Meanwhile, the Breen: "So, how about we sacrifice a whole fleet of ships to suicide charge Earth, just to show off how aggressive we are?"
SNW. Should do a few episodes on them
The Breen are so cool!
Cheers
Blades, pods, prongs, oh my!
Neat
Their ships remind me a bit of the Sha'Kurian symbol. Do the Sha'Kurians exist in your universe? (Klingon Academy)
I know what a privateer was in the historical age of sail. But what exactly is a privateer in the Startrek universe and how does privateering work??
good question. might do a video on it. but essentially anyone who owns their own starship is a privateer. so cassidy yates is a good example, she can basically go wherever the trade is.
If the breen were that kind of space wolfes, the war would have consited of a lot more boarding actions7
You got destroyers confused with Corvettes
St online added a lot to the Breen mythos
Ever think about doing a 40k - Star trek comparison vid? or are you more trekkie than 40k fan?
YT algorythim would crush it. and GWs practices really turned me off. sometimes i'll be playing DOW 2 and think "Man this is really fun why did i stop?" and then i look at GW prices...
@@venomgeekmedia9886 yeah, GW would shut you down so quick that you'd blink. That's why I think doing videos on WH40K comparison are risky waters.
The Breen are cool
for all we know
breen rezreth dreadnought cruiser may have been forgotten. Or is that just sto stuff
as far as im concerned thats 25th century silliness they may have gotten the idea from the dominion. but definitely didn't have any during the war. (and it probably wouldn't have done very well)
i would have thought it would make sense for the breen to have 1 battleship/batlecrusier type ship maybe a rare but powerfull ship designed to counter say the Galaxy like the Breen see the Galaxy come and say hhmm that’s cool how about we make something to blow that up and thier finance guy says no to much money for that many of them and the other guy says well how about something almost that strong and only a few of them finance guy says sure that’s fine
I really did the WASP next to the Vulcan ship
I wood say the breen are a sort of humanoïde (see the rest of the spacesute, and ther very long like vulcan or rumulan)
The mask keep me thinking i wood say is more like a filter so thy can survive in hostile atmosfer.
Like a human spacesute but then way beter and more armord.
Took a little inspiration from the Clans of Battletech?
What About the Rezreth Dreadnoughts?
interesting take - how do you explain that we see only one frigate variant in the show?
Breen don't like the Federation, but they must really hate the Romulans given they joined when the Romulans did.
the breen villians of star trek legacy or prodigy season 2
Could the Breen be insectoid?
5:23 Jumpscare 😅
Video about unique Breen weaponry..aka cold
🇮🇱Wars🇮🇱Trek
MUUN. FERENGI