Michael Jordan's Bulls didn't lose more than 3 games in a row including playoffs for 8 years including that 96 team. There isn't a team in history that would beat that team except the Dream Team which had the same Michael Jordan on it.
Shaquille O Neal himself has said that Dennis Rodman was so strong that big men would sometimes struggle to back him down, and its down to his lower base, Rodman could have easily been a track and field player if he wanted to.
You summed it up perfectly. I love Broussard but he's always the first to jump on the hottest prospect's coattails, while Rob Parker is a professional troll.
Seriously. In remember them trashing fan votes in previous shows but in this one they are cool with it because it supports their opinion. If course they only ever choose the team from their era.
The lanes are so open because you have to respect shooters. It’s a reason the game has evolved. Players shoot better and you have to respect it. I still watch tapes of old finals and I laugh when I watch them shoot 3s. They took good open 3s and still only shot like 35% 😂😂😂 that’s why the lanes were clogged. Because the shooters were great enough. And the people who were shooters were just specialist. Didn’t have all around games like kyrie and dame and skilled guards of this era.
And you do know that there are counters to handchecking right? It’s called a step back and a drive and kick. Or can get in the post. It’s not like handchecking made you not being able to use your hands. It was literally just them having their hand on you. Players still hand check sometimes today and it’s not called, it’s just not as vicious as back in the day because they used to club after also. You’d have to have watched the games to know ab the club to the back.
96 Bulls are my favorite team but everyone says Jordan stopped other players from winning championships, but really only team that went to the finals twice during their run was Utah when Stockton and Malone were mid 30s. There weren't any othet real juggernaut teams if so someone else would've made more than 2finals . The league was just super balanced so Jordan could be the difference because his roster was never overmatched. 80s Lakers and Celtics are better.
Warriors were number 1 in defense before KD got hurt. They had 15 regular seasons losses and 6 of those losses they were missing an all star. And the thing people love to ignore for some reason.... they destroyed a team with 3 hall of Famer in their prime in 5 games and blew them out 4 of their 5 games. That Cavs team is one of the best teams ever, better than any team the Bulls played and got destroyed
@@JaeBee1718 no theres actually not. These same people you see saying the bulls would win in 6 after the warriors went 73-9 but before they lost the championship. Ok fine. But then they add Kevin Durant now what? Unless you said the Bulls would sweep the 73-9 Warriors, you literally forfeited the ability to say the Bulls would win after the add one of the greatest players of all time to an already great team. Plus the 3 point line was shorter in 96 which allowed Jordan was able to shoot 43% from 3. What do you think Curry and Thompson would do with a shorter 3 point line?
This argument again. The Bulls won the most game ever at the time, and they followed through by winning the title and defeated the 64-win Sonics in the Finals. They also happened to threepeat. So I'm not sure what else a team needs to do to be considered the best ever. I know it's fun to argue this, but at some point the sheer dominance of a team can't be denied. That Bulls teams nearly won 70 games back to back lol.
@AnEn I really don't think you want to bring up the East in LeBron's era compared to MJ's. That's not an argument you're gonna win. And honestly there's no way to excuse the Warriors dropping a 3-1 lead. If you get drop 3 consecutive games in the Finals, you're not the best.
i think games won is stupid...to me just looking at rosters the 85 lakers are the one team I would not want to face in history besides the 2017 warriors....they had it all just look at that team .....3 finals mvps 3 league mvps on the same team....I get mcadoo and kareem were not at their prime and magic wasn't quite at his peak but my god they didn't need to be with their depth 11 deep in the regular season and 10 deep in the postseason
GS won 73 games and then added KD. Best postseason record ever. It’s hard to say that’s not the best team. We know offensively what they bring. Defensively u have Iggy Klay and Draymond.
The 1990-1998 was my favorite era of the NBA. Even if my Clippers win championships, I will never ever have that amazing feeling for a decade like I did when watching MJ play in the 1990s.
amerzeb14 Nah Rodman didn’t actually do that good guarding Shaq, Jordan was just healthy and in shape. Shaq still averaged 27 on 60% shooting, he just couldn’t make a free throw. Rodman’s 15 rebounds a game are always nice though
chris claimed kareem was old and past his prime but in 1985 on a 5-4 playoff team that almost beat the celtics in 5 they were one shot away on a team that went 62-20 he won finals mvp was a starter in the all star game was his teams best scorer rebounder shot blocker had the best fg% 2nd in fts 3rd in assists as a center and 6th in steals and his stats only look better the more he played in the playoffs he was top 3 in steals as well for his team...he was a beast still...he had to do less with so much around him
Jay Bird we’ll wilt chamberlain isn’t on the bulls so I don’t think they got the all time rebounder, but it depends on the rules cause in today’s rules the warriors would win. Back in the 90s teams emphasized toughness but a lot of time they sacrifice skill. So you can have Rodman in the court but but if he can’t touch Durant he’s in trouble
1996 Bulls Facts - Jordan won the scoring title - Rodman won the rebounding title - Jordan and Pippen were All-NBA FIRST Team - Jordan, Pippen and Rodman were NBA All-Defensive FIRST Team - Jordan was the All-Star MVP - Jordan was the Regular Season MVP - Phil Jackson was NBA Coach of the Year - Toni Kukoc was the 6th Man of the Year - Steve Kerr was #2 in 3 point percentage - The Bulls were the #1 offensive team - The Bulls were tied for #2 defensive team - Jordan was the Finals MVP - The Bulls went 72-10 and finished the deal with winning the ring.
@@devilson14321 All well and good, But Rodman is still one of the greatest re-bounders ever, agreed?? And who on GS is gonna stop MJ regardless of what rules they're playing? And Scottie Pippen would be quick and long enough to give KD a tough time! KD is gonna have to defend him too! who is gonna stop Rodman from grabbing 18- 20 rebounds a game against an especially weak rebounding GS team? Point being, the Bulls could compete in this era! Doubt the Warriors could compete in that physical era!
Jay Bird Iggy, Klay, and Durant rotation of guarding Jordan would make It hard on Jordan as well. That Warriors team would compete in any era they got 2 of the top 30 greatest players to ever play the game and their 3rd wheel has the regular season and playoff record for most 3s in a game. You doubt that would compete in the 90s 🤣
Shaq averaged 27 and 11 on 64% shooting. I wouldn't call that guarding someone. Rodman was a monster on the offensive glass tho. He had 26 offensive Rebounds in 4 games.
BigBody Rico shaq is gonna get his stats no matter who it is, guarding a great player means cancelling his effect on the game. As in his 27 and 11 didn’t contribute to wins. It’s like going against a Lebron led team. He’s going to get his numbers regardless but did his numbers come in opportune moments that’s lead to winning or did he get his stats because he’s just good
Antonio Bridges shaq was young asf wym?? And Lebron teams were always better and most the series lost we knew he was gonna lose🤦🏽♂️ even though he was the definite best player
@@antoniobridges6209 you dont understand what im saying lol Shaq played better than his usual self. Shaq shot 64%. Thats nearly 10% higher than his averages. The defensive gameplan for them was to stop everyone else. That's not Shaq's fault. Theres no player alive who would beat that Bulls team without teammates pulling their parts. Shaq was getting doubled all game and still played exceptionally well. If a team cant take advantage of being left wide open you need to consult your point guard and your coach bc somethings obviously wrong
Greatest team in basketball history maybe but it’s a huge stretch to say greatest sports dynasty. Their are countless dynasty’s In football(soccer) that could easily match or beat that bulls team.
Joshua Reynolds I agree with you on greatest team but I give Woodens UCLA Bruins of the 60’s & 70’s as greatest dynasty, just look up the numbers, unmatched in any sport.
You know, the shrug game was partly brought on by the fact that Jordan's critics were saying he didn't have as much range as Clyde Drexler...and look what he did with that criticism.
Mischa S. This era of basketball is leaps and bounds better than any era before. Players are way more skilled and athletic. As a species we evolve and progress. Basketball is no different. More money is at stake, talent has gone global, and players are just innovating from what cane before. Let’s look at it like an iPhone. Would you rather own the iPhone 6 or the IPhone X? Jordan’s bulls never competed against the talent we are seeing of today’s game.
@@coachfasting7841 How come iPhone 6 battery lasts longer than iPhone X? There are layers, and different perspectives to look at when we talk about evolution and progress. The opinion that everything just gets better is flawed. Things change, they are different, doesn't necessarily mean that they are better.
@@coachfasting7841 ANother thing, is KLay more athletic than Mike, Curry more athletic than Ron Harper, Green more athletic than Rodman or Durant more athletic than Pippen? Jordan is leaps and bounds more athletic than Klay, as well as Rodman comapred to Green, as far as the others go i at least see no advantage to Warriors.
Everything is relative and, we will always be comparing apples to oranges in these debates. Who's to say if MJ and them played in this era with all that this era provides for athletes if they were better? 🤷🏾♂️ it's all incalculable but good conversation.
Mischa S. @Milos The only sport we can quantify is track. As we can see runners are getting faster and faster. We constantly make improvements and adjustments to things based on the data we pull from what came before us. It’s called innovation. Let’s look at it like if you were a company hiring employees. Would you rather hire from just one source or be able to hire your staff from an entire world population. The fact that Jordan never competed against the global competition that Lebron has is another point against him. Lebron lost a few rings to some international greats. Manu, Tony, Dirk ect. You can’t assume that Jordan would transition well into a league that is dominated by shooting. We have seen Lebron adapt his game into being able to keep up with these shooters being the best point guard in the league as well as having the highest IQ on the floor
If you combined regular season and playoffs, the 1996 Bulls went 87-13. That 87% is the highest in NBA history. The 2016 Warriors went 88-18 (83%). The 2001 Lakers went 71-27 (72%) and 2017 Warriors went 83-16 (84%).
1996 Bulls Facts - Jordan won the scoring title - Rodman won the rebounding title - Jordan and Pippen were All-NBA FIRST Team - Jordan, Pippen and Rodman were NBA All-Defensive FIRST Team - Jordan was the All-Star MVP - Jordan was the Regular Season MVP - Phil Jackson was NBA Coach of the Year - Toni Kukoc was the 6th Man of the Year - Steve Kerr was #2 in 3 point percentage - The Bulls were the #1 offensive team - The Bulls were tied for #2 defensive team - Jordan was the Finals MVP - The Bulls went 72-10 and finished the deal with winning the ring.
So what you're saying is , statistically , the 1996 Bulls ARE the greatest NBA team of all time even tho they did not have the most reg season wins cause of 2016 Warriors ....
@@MindMan424 what good is going 73-9 without winning the ring. That's like at the end of a date when you're at the girl's door. The 2017 Warriors get a kiss and see you tomorrow. The 1996 Bulls go inside and seal the deal.
What makes the Bulls so great being the best team ever , their three super stars MJ, Scottie, Rodman night and night out played defense along with other players Ron Harper , luke longely , Bill Cartwright , Horace Grant .
They were beat by Dr J and Moses Malone 4-0, beating them 4 straight games after losing only one game the entire playoffs. Hakeem and Sampson beat them to face the Celtics in the finals. Pistons beat them in the finals in a sweep. Celtics beat them in finals. They had too many bad loses and bad series for them to even be in the conversation.
Asmosis Jones bulls are better then the Lakers lol that Laker team lost a game to AI by himself lol MJ and crew would destroy them.They also got lucky one year that the Kings got robbed by crooked refs one of the biggest rig jobs ever.Bulls were better then any laker team ever 🤷🏽♂️
@@herbertnelsonjr.9899 Look up the 87' Lakers, they were dominant! I'd take them over the 2001 Lakers in 6. They were a really high IQ team. Shaq would have ate, but Kareem, Worthy, and Magic gonna eat more combined. Michael Cooper can hold Kobe in check for at least 2-3 games in a 7 game series which would be the difference, Kobe wasn't ready for a real beast team like the 87' Lakers in his 2001 body. The 87' Lakers were a complete team with 7 players avg double digit points in their entire 87' playoff run. Don't forget my man, Big Game James Worthy, 2001 Lakers got no real answer for him. They would be running and gunning on Shaq's big ass all game, tire him out. 2001 Lakers played slow half-court bully ball with Shaq, 87' Magic would have made him run hard.
11:40 you mean the same Sonics team that won 64 games and had DPOY Gary Payton who could play defence and also score 20+ and had the explosive Shawn Kemp? The only reason the Bulls did not win 4-0 is because Scottie Pippen had a bad back and Michael Jordan also had a calf injury. These people really need to do their homework
I was checking Penny's 1995 Finals stats and they weren't bad at all! 25.5 PPG / 8 APG / 4.8 RPG / 50% FG / 46% 3-PT. In the 1996 ECF, he scored 25.5 PPG again at 48%. That's more than Kobe's PPG in the 2001 Finals.
My lord people dont remember how good Penny was in 96, but also hand checking left in 93 so by 96 we gotta stop playing up the whole the defense was so much tougher. BTW in 96' Shaq was 24 Penny was 25 in 01' Kobe was 21
UPDATE: 1996 Bulls Facts - Jordan won the scoring title - Rodman won the rebounding title - Jordan and Pippen were All-NBA FIRST Team - Jordan, Pippen and Rodman were NBA All-Defensive FIRST Team - Jordan was the All-Star MVP - Jordan was the Regular Season MVP - Phil Jackson was NBA Coach of the Year - Toni Kukoc was the 6th Man of the Year - Jordan was #3 in steals per game - Steve Kerr was #2 in 3 point percentage - The Bulls were the #1 offensive team - The Bulls were tied for #2 defensive team - Jordan was the Finals MVP - The Bulls went 72-10 and finished the deal with winning the ring. 2017 Warriors Facts - 0 scoring title - 0 rebounding title - 0 All-NBA FIRST Team - Green NBA All-Defensive FIRST Team - 0 All-Star MVP - 0 Regular Season MVP - 0 NBA Coach of the Year - Green Defensive Player of the Year - 0 6th Man of the Year - Green was #1 in steals per game - Thompson was #11 in 3 point percentage - The Warriors were the #1 offensive team - The Warriors were the #11 defensive team - Durant was the Finals MVP - The Warriors went 67-15 and won the ring. I'm not going to include 4 Warriors in the All-Star game as an accomplishment. Doing so is equal to a participation trophy. Minus the All-Star MVP, the rest listed above are accomplishments achieved during the regular season and playoffs. Just trying to show how that the 1996 Bulls dominated 1996 more than the 2017 Warriors dominated 2017. If you want to talk about the different eras that they played in, then that's were the debate starts... and according to the Yahoo poll that Chris mentions, the 1996 Bulls are the best. Of course, not all polls are correct, but looks like more people agree with me that the 1996 Bulls are the best. Probably polled more older people that have more knowledge after watching the NBA for over 30 years. Because seriously, even if you're 30 years old and have been watching the NBA since you were 10, that means the only knowledge you have of the 1996 Bulls, 2001 Lakers, 1987 Lakers and 1986 Celtics are highlight videos on TH-cam. Of course, there are some 30 year olds that may have access to full games of the 80's, 90's and 2000's but that's the exception.
Warriors would've shot and ran them out the gym, they have 3 dudes capable of going for 60, they have 3 dudes who could pull up from 30, If Steph, Klay, KD are cooking alone nobody can stop them and they got bodies for Jordan on defense like KD, Klay, and Iggy they would make it tough for Jordan. And nobody on the bulls can get guard a 7fter who can shoot anywhere on the court
Yes we are all bored.But the separation is the Bulls length and versatility.Harper, brown ,pippen,jordan and Dennis would be hell in a closing line up in todays small ball.Against the warriors dennis would neutralize draymond cut his 8 assist down to like four.Randy brown would do a great job running with steph harper on klay jordan would be so fresh as pippen takes on durant.Kukoc and kerr would neutralize iggy and com.
People always talk about better defense in 90’s but I would say there’s better defenders now because you CAN’T hand check and put your hands on the offensive player, so Jordan would dominate on offense but on defense it’s gonna be hard to defend the warriors or lakers but defenders today would easily dominate and adjust to defense in 90’s
@@TheShowstopper20000 MJ 10 scoring titles Lebron 1 scoring title MJ 9 1st team defense Lebron 6 1st team defense MJ 1x defensive player of year Lebron 0x defensive player of year MJ leads league in steals 3x Lebron 0x leader in steals MJ 2 100+ block seasons Lebron 0 100+ block seasons MJ only player with 200 steal 100 block season (twice) MJ 5 season MVPs Lebron 4 season MVPs MJ 6 finals MVPs Lebron 3 finals MVPs MJ #1 offensive win shares per 48min. MJ #1 career PPG (30.1, 50%FG) MJ #1 playoff PPG (33.4, 50%FG) MJ #1 all time PER (player efficiency rating.) MJ games played 1,072 Lebron games played 1,258
Nall I was thinking I'm tired of the propaganda to continue to push a Jordan brand, Bron the GOAT, until you him or Jordan win three then come back two years later and win three straight again in this era, my suggestion to you is get out the 90's...
Jordan’s Bulls dominated the era of big men. All the other championships from 1991 to 2003 were won by dominant big men. In the era of small ball, there was Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Kukoc, Harper, Kerr, and Longley who was a good player.
Melvyn Singleton The ones that won when Jordan wasn’t playing: 1) Hakeem with Drexler, 2) Duncan with Robinson in 1999. The ones that Jordan played and beat: 1) Ewing and Starks, 2) prime Laimbeer and Rodman, 3) Malone and Stockton.
The reason the Bulls struggled to beat the Sonics in games 4 through 6 was because Payton slowed down Jordan: First three games: 31 points, 46 fg%, 50 3fg%, 12.3 FTA. Last three games(when Payton started guarding Jordan): 23.7 points, 36.7 fg%, 11.1 3fg% 10 FTA.
It depends on how you're measuring it. Are you comparing them against how good they were within their era? Or are you comparing them against each other? Because if it's the former, it's the Bulls. If it's the latter, it's the Kobe/Shaq Lakers. And if you're just comparing pure stats without context, it's the Warriors.
@@bradivanson925 but for me thats on miami, le cramping james playing and complaining like bitch.. if you are the goat you cant lose to 38 year old t.duncan while you are in you prime
A lot of all time great teams '83 Sixers with Moses, Dr. J, Toney and Cheeks. '86 Celtics with Bird, Mchale, Parish, Johnson, Walton off the bench '87 Lakers with Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Scott, Cooper, Thompson '89 Pistons with Isiah, Dumars, Aguirre, Rodman, Laimbeer, Johnson off the bench '96 Bulls with Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Kukoc off the bench '01 Lakers with Shaq and Kobe '13 Heat with LeBron, Wade, Bosh and Allen off the bench '17 Warriors with KD, Steph, Klay, DG, Iggy off the bench
The 21-year-old Kobe was 2000. He averaged about 15.6 PPG in the Finals at 36%. That was a SHAQ season. Kobe's breakout was 2001 WCF at age 22 going to turn 23 in August.
Kash Klay 1987 Lakers were better than 1988 Lakers. I like your top 5 though. All five of those teams might be able to be the best. We will never know.
Tod Wilkinson You have the Pistons way too high...96 Bulls 72-10 swept a really good Heat team Swept Penny Shaq Magic Team ran out on the Sonics 3-0 that series was over quick Pippen was way better than 1st run Rodman>Grant Harper > Paxton Kukoc > Armstrong Jordan was still 95% of his prime I purposely named one year teams cause that was the topic ...The Lakers was a pick em 87/88
Jonas better stop drinking that Similac. Scottie D's up Durant, Mike D's up Klay, Harper D's up Steph, Rodman D's up Draybumb. Are you kidding me, Durant is the only one that will get his. The rest of the team would be on lock. FACTS!!!
erik puka lay down the crack lol. Ain’t no team ever gonna go 16-1 in the playoffs. The Knocks would have been handled easily and people would have complained about the mismatch
@@michaelparker6240 Have you ever played basketball? Not talking about street ball. The NBA is built on Superstars Da Bulls had 3 HOF players nobody else in the league had that at the time of the 2nd three peat. I know basketball because I played it too. Google Me!
People a t like Shawn Kemp wasn't a straight up killer when Jordan played him. People were literally saying he was and going to be a Malone or Barkley. He didn't have that longevity, but he was at that level in his early prime.
Kemp's nickname changed from Rain Man to REIGN Man after that series. Everyone expected the Sonics to comeback even stronger. Alas, they imploded. Kemp was basically Malone and Barkley in one body!
2017 Warriors, that first year with KD. Only lost 1 game all playoffs. Was before Steph got his bag, so all that fire power plus the depth. I'll take my chances with that team against any other team ever.
Good observation. I remember Moses Malone said something like fo-fo-fo meaning they would sweep the playoffs and they almost did, losing just one game! Nobody gives any credit to Andrew Toney, who was meant to be an unbelievable player whose career was tarnished because of injuries. I also like the 85-86 Celtics with a healthy Walton coming off the bench and any team with Jordan and a peak Scottie Pippen. I mean seriously, who would want to go against Jordan in a finals series?
It was a SWEEP, not 5 games. Bulls fucked those Magic boys up in 4 games. The Bulls were actually down by 15 points at the half in game 2 and displayed probably the best defensive half I've ever seen...Orlando only score 34 points the rest of the game and lost by 5. The Bulls would out-smart that Lakers team. The real match up would be the Bulls vs. the 86 Celtics with 5 HOFs or even vs. the 83' 76ers with 4 HOFs and Andrew Toney.
Kobe and shaq all day, an unstoppable force an a unmovable object. Im never gonna let the go along to get alongs or your stats tell me i didn't see what i saw.
Bulls and it’s not close, Shaq and Kobe beat trash in the finals. Reggie Miller Iverson and Kidd were the 3rd best players on the floor. When they played that great high IQ 04 pistons team they got destroyed.
Tbh it didn’t matter who the lakers played that year in the East they were destroying them period no cap. But cmon man look who they beat in the west Portland , Sacramento, San Antonio . Sweep all 3 teams . Stacked teams . So cmon man
Yo would have a point if the Lakers didnt destroyed The Spurs in their path to the finals those Spurs had Duncan and Robinson and Pop as a coach so they had High IQ
@@ccae07 Facts bro. Lakers finals opponents weren't great but the teams they beat in the west were great. Especially those Blazers, Kings and Spurs teams.
Goat Man yea man people gotta put this in perspective lakers been to 7 out of the 10 nba finals during 2000-2010 , they beat a lot of great west teams . This coming from a bron fan
Chris Broussard thank u sir!!! Thank u sir!!! Chris said when people say Jordan didn’t shoot the 3 well... NO ONE SHOT THE THREE ALOT!!! He would adjust n shot the three well!!!
Yea those teams were ridiculous. Worthy won a fmvp with Kareem and Magic. Prime 80s Lakers and Celtics were to dominate for any all great team. I think Jordan is by far the greatest player but lvl of talent he had vs the prime 80s Lakers and Celtics is just to much. I wouldn't pick a team vs those 2. HOF for days on those teams with multiple players winning league and fmvps.
Game 3 in the last Bulls finale. that was the best team performance in the history. Perfect game from the greatest team ever. Jazz look like amateur team. Utah Jazz 54, Chicago Bulls 96 Scoring by quarter: 14-17, 17-32, 14-23, 9-24 Pts: Karl Malone 22 Rebs: Greg Ostertag 9 Asts: John Stockton 7 Pts: Michael Jordan 24 Rebs: Ron Harper 10 Asts: Ron Harper 7
Kobe and jordan would cancel each other out, but shaq is the biggest mismatch between the two teams...I think Lakers would take the series vs the Bulls
Arturo Lara whoah...Kobe and MJ don’t cancel out. One of those players could hit over 2,500 “consecutive” shots and still not match the other player’s FG%. One of them was faster, quicker, more athletic, more clutch, more efficient, better scorer, better passer, better rebounder, better fundamentals, better footwork, better body control, had higher vertical, able to play better through sickness and injury, had a greater will-to-win, etc than the other. Also, Shaq with Orlando was a mismatch too but it didn’t matter as Rodman held his own. Shaq was a mismatch in 2004 as well but the Pistons didn’t care.
jtremaine23 all I know is a young kobe gave the goat buckets...no way he would stop prime Kobe Bryant...I swear michael jordan fans think he is god....he lost too. Kobe is the one player that would go at mike like no other...go check what a young kobe used to do to him smh
Sam Nelson idk man. In 03 Duncan had Robinson, Parker, Ginobili. Steve Kerr & Stephen Jackson. And that 2014 team with Kawhi was deep. That’s why I’d put those teams up against anybody
Bill Russell Celtics were Real though better than the credit they're getting. Bill Russell himself was a better basketball player than people admit he did everything, not just play defense. Bill Russell should be ranked higher on the all time list, Wilt Chamberlain too.
This is an interesting thing: I think we are discounting the fact that the two coaches of these top three teams of all time are Phil Jackson, Phil Jackson and Steve Kerr. Could the Phil Jackson lead Lakers beat his younger self Phil Jackson lead Chicago Bulls. To make it interesting, let the coaches have the knowledge of their earlier selves. This means that the Lakers version of Phil would know the team and the plays and the weaknesses of the Chicago Bulls teams he coached. And Steve Kerr having been a player who played with both Michael and Phil would have the experience by playing with both of them.
Langston Richardson exactly, always thought about that. Also there’s the idol factor. Would a team like the warriors have prior knowledge of the bulls? Would they be star struck going up against the bulls?
Shaq was, but everyone else was. That supporting cast (with the exception of Kobe) was not on the same level as the 96 Bulls imo. I do miss those Shaq days though. When he set the FT record in the Finals, it was pretty amazing. Poor Pacers tried everything.
@@fatpatlives1998 buddy you forget how sacramento got cheated one year , and also the other year derek fisher hit the most tough clutch shot to save them from elimination against the spurs , the 2001 team had no competition but the other 2 years they barely squeeked by
@@qwertyasdfg9663 that was 2002 ...the bench was starting to age at that point that's why San Antonio beat them in 03...that 01 team ran through the west no competition what so ever
mkeonine This era of basketball is leaps and bounds better than any era before. Players are way more skilled and athletic. As a species we evolve and progress. Basketball is no different. More money is at stake, talent has gone global, and players are just innovating from what cane before. Let’s look at it like an iPhone. Would you rather own the iPhone 6 or the IPhone X? Jordan’s bulls never competed against the talent we are seeing of today’s game.
They faced virtually no real competition in that 2001 run, no offense. The 2001 Spurs only had a great in his prime Duncan, Robinson was aging and they had absolutely no legit backcourt to deal with Kobe.
People sleep on that 17 Warriors team but that’s one of the best teams I ever seen, they were unbeatable, the 01 Lakers team was too they’ll give the Bulls a good run
17 Warriors didn't play anybody of significance in the postseason. The 18 Warriors were basically the same team and almost got beat by the Rockets with CP3 and Harden .
@Tony Montorner 2 all time greats who never won anything. That's the point. The Warriors really should have lost that series if CP3 stayed healthy. If the 18 Warriors struggled against PJ Tucker's perimeter defense, Jordan, Pippen and Rodman would have ripped them a new a$$hole!
@Tony Montorner I would take the '96 Sonics that won 66 games over the 2018 Rockets. Not sure they could beat the Warriors though. Durant would be a problem.
Why do these callers keep trying to throw the 2001 Lakers in the mix. They arguably had the lowest team IQ of any championship team in NBA history (and I've watched them for over 40 years)!!! What great team did they beat in the finals??? The Sixers...the Pacers...cmon!!! As soon as they came up against a team who was great defensively, they got swept! Even sadder, that team didn't even have a superstar!
If it were a 7 game series it’s the bulls. If we are talking just 1 game. The warriors for sure. If the warriors have a good shooting night nobody beats them on any 1 given game. You can’t guard 3 guys who can pull up from 30.
In Jordan's era they would be getting pressed and trapped 94' all game long. There would be no pulling up from 30, only in transitions and fast-breaks maybe.
For me I like the 92 Bulls because I thought their team had a more suffocating defense then their 96 team. I know both those teams are different and the 96 team obviously won 72 games That was an older Jordan, Pippen and Rodman. 86 Celtics, 87 Lakers, 89 Pistons, 83 Sixers give the Bulls a run for their money and most likely beat the 96 Bulls or any of the 90s Bulls teams
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Michael Jordan's Bulls didn't lose more than 3 games in a row including playoffs for 8 years including that 96 team. There isn't a team in history that would beat that team except the Dream Team which had the same Michael Jordan on it.
Warriors 2017 5gms
1987 Lakers and 1986 Celtics can possibly beat that team. We will never know.
The NBA in the 1990's were nowhere as great as teams in the 1980's
They lost games 4 and 5 vs. Seattle
@@damianpresha5155 Not a chance. Bulls in 6
Shaquille O Neal himself has said that Dennis Rodman was so strong that big men would sometimes struggle to back him down, and its down to his lower base, Rodman could have easily been a track and field player if he wanted to.
These arguments always turn into Prisoner of the Moment vs. Revisionist History.
You summed it up perfectly. I love Broussard but he's always the first to jump on the hottest prospect's coattails, while Rob Parker is a professional troll.
Seriously. In remember them trashing fan votes in previous shows but in this one they are cool with it because it supports their opinion. If course they only ever choose the team from their era.
Sad ain't it smh
It's gld heads can't face reality league's got young bucks ballin like ceazy
@@mr.bubbles8351 There is no defense. Its illegal to play defense.
Imagine jordan's chicago bulls without hand checking and almost always open lane. Pip and mike would make each game a dunking competition.
Facts
The lanes are so open because you have to respect shooters. It’s a reason the game has evolved. Players shoot better and you have to respect it. I still watch tapes of old finals and I laugh when I watch them shoot 3s. They took good open 3s and still only shot like 35% 😂😂😂 that’s why the lanes were clogged. Because the shooters were great enough. And the people who were shooters were just specialist. Didn’t have all around games like kyrie and dame and skilled guards of this era.
And you do know that there are counters to handchecking right? It’s called a step back and a drive and kick. Or can get in the post. It’s not like handchecking made you not being able to use your hands. It was literally just them having their hand on you. Players still hand check sometimes today and it’s not called, it’s just not as vicious as back in the day because they used to club after also. You’d have to have watched the games to know ab the club to the back.
Lmao the lanes were way more open back then with illegal defense and no zone defense.. plus all the plumbers in the league
@@dadillonful yep, exactly
Shaq & Penny were both 24 years old get your facts together Rob G That Magic team was Stacked!
Myron Ford That Magic team was insane. I think they were a bench away from upsetting the Bulls and Rockets.
They won 60 games and went to the finals the year before lol.
@@RestrictedAirspacePodcast For Sho!!
Half the team was hurt
@@melvynsngltn27 I will give you that Grant was hurt and I think Dennis Scott got hurt too.
Also that Bulls team ....
Ranked # 1 in offense
Ranked # 1 in defense
96 Bulls are my favorite team but everyone says Jordan stopped other players from winning championships, but really only team that went to the finals twice during their run was Utah when Stockton and Malone were mid 30s. There weren't any othet real juggernaut teams if so someone else would've made more than 2finals . The league was just super balanced so Jordan could be the difference because his roster was never overmatched. 80s Lakers and Celtics are better.
Warriors were number 1 in defense before KD got hurt.
They had 15 regular seasons losses and 6 of those losses they were missing an all star.
And the thing people love to ignore for some reason.... they destroyed a team with 3 hall of Famer in their prime in 5 games and blew them out 4 of their 5 games.
That Cavs team is one of the best teams ever, better than any team the Bulls played and got destroyed
There's so much I could say.
*sigh* this is why I don't get deep into these discussions
The NBA weak mediocre
@@JaeBee1718 no theres actually not. These same people you see saying the bulls would win in 6 after the warriors went 73-9 but before they lost the championship. Ok fine. But then they add Kevin Durant now what? Unless you said the Bulls would sweep the 73-9 Warriors, you literally forfeited the ability to say the Bulls would win after the add one of the greatest players of all time to an already great team. Plus the 3 point line was shorter in 96 which allowed Jordan was able to shoot 43% from 3. What do you think Curry and Thompson would do with a shorter 3 point line?
This argument again.
The Bulls won the most game ever at the time, and they followed through by winning the title and defeated the 64-win Sonics in the Finals. They also happened to threepeat. So I'm not sure what else a team needs to do to be considered the best ever.
I know it's fun to argue this, but at some point the sheer dominance of a team can't be denied. That Bulls teams nearly won 70 games back to back lol.
@AnEnget off the drugs please. The only weakness here is your intelligence.
@AnEn
I really don't think you want to bring up the East in LeBron's era compared to MJ's. That's not an argument you're gonna win.
And honestly there's no way to excuse the Warriors dropping a 3-1 lead. If you get drop 3 consecutive games in the Finals, you're not the best.
i think games won is stupid...to me just looking at rosters the 85 lakers are the one team I would not want to face in history besides the 2017 warriors....they had it all just look at that team .....3 finals mvps 3 league mvps on the same team....I get mcadoo and kareem were not at their prime and magic wasn't quite at his peak but my god they didn't need to be with their depth 11 deep in the regular season and 10 deep in the postseason
AnEn say no to drugs.
GS won 73 games and then added KD. Best postseason record ever. It’s hard to say that’s not the best team. We know offensively what they bring. Defensively u have Iggy Klay and Draymond.
96 bull's swept the Magic.
Munoken 23 yeah cus they got Rodman the best defensive player in the league lmfao, bulls got smacked year before
Oh yeah that great Orlando team. LMAO
@@sportshivepod dumbass Jordan was rusty back from baseball and hardly got smacked. JORDAN torched them all the way. Sit down please.
Orlando eliminated bulls in 95
@Kenneth Erickson i know
Id pick bulls as greatest team
Top 10 Greatest team of all time
(With their Regular Season and Post Season record)
1. 1995-96 Bulls 72-10, 15-3
2. 2016-17 Warriors 67-15, 16-1
3. 2000-01 Lakers 56-26, 15-1
4. 1985-86 Celtics 67-15, 15-3
5. 1971-72 Lakers 69-13, 12-3
6. 1986-87 Lakers 65-17, 15-3
7. 1996-97 Bulls 69-13, 15-4
8. 1970-71 Bucks 66-16, 12-2
9. 1982-83 76ers 65-17, 12-1
10. 1966-67 76ers 68-13, 11-4
The 1990-1998 was my favorite era of the NBA. Even if my Clippers win championships, I will never ever have that amazing feeling for a decade like I did when watching MJ play in the 1990s.
Showtime Lakers would beat the 96 Bulls
2015-2022
How come Kukoc is always the forgotten man from the bulls
Kukoc was a beast
Bcuz he played with the 🐐
Toni was a BAD BOY. Great player indeed. Toni was one of the first stretch 4's
@@ericmoore4788 he wasnt anybody after that 98 bulls team and michael retired. He was just another guy
@@webuycounties abit like Green by himself just a role player putting up those triple singles lol but collectively a important piece
Yo Chris it was a sweep for the bulls against the magic in 96.
Coz they had rodman in 96
amerzeb14 Nah Rodman didn’t actually do that good guarding Shaq, Jordan was just healthy and in shape. Shaq still averaged 27 on 60% shooting, he just couldn’t make a free throw. Rodman’s 15 rebounds a game are always nice though
chris claimed kareem was old and past his prime but in 1985 on a 5-4 playoff team that almost beat the celtics in 5 they were one shot away on a team that went 62-20 he won finals mvp was a starter in the all star game was his teams best scorer rebounder shot blocker had the best fg% 2nd in fts 3rd in assists as a center and 6th in steals and his stats only look better the more he played in the playoffs he was top 3 in steals as well for his team...he was a beast still...he had to do less with so much around him
We don’t discuss defense enough, look at all three pictures. Who are the best defenders? Kobe, Clay, Pippen, Jordan and Rodman.
Shaq was a great defender also.
MJ was the type of guy to drop 50 on players for having the wrong shirt
Taking 43 shots to score them.
96 Bulls win!
They got the GOAT!
They got the all-time re bounder!
The got the top wing defender!
All 3 were clamp down defenders!
Jay Bird we’ll wilt chamberlain isn’t on the bulls so I don’t think they got the all time rebounder, but it depends on the rules cause in today’s rules the warriors would win. Back in the 90s teams emphasized toughness but a lot of time they sacrifice skill. So you can have Rodman in the court but but if he can’t touch Durant he’s in trouble
1996 Bulls Facts
- Jordan won the scoring title
- Rodman won the rebounding title
- Jordan and Pippen were All-NBA FIRST Team
- Jordan, Pippen and Rodman were NBA All-Defensive FIRST Team
- Jordan was the All-Star MVP
- Jordan was the Regular Season MVP
- Phil Jackson was NBA Coach of the Year
- Toni Kukoc was the 6th Man of the Year
- Steve Kerr was #2 in 3 point percentage
- The Bulls were the #1 offensive team
- The Bulls were tied for #2 defensive team
- Jordan was the Finals MVP
- The Bulls went 72-10 and finished the deal with winning the ring.
@@devilson14321 All well and good, But Rodman is still one of the greatest re-bounders ever, agreed?? And who on GS is gonna stop MJ regardless of what rules they're playing? And Scottie Pippen would be quick and long enough to give KD a tough time! KD is gonna have to defend him too! who is gonna stop Rodman from grabbing 18- 20 rebounds a game against an especially weak rebounding GS team? Point being, the Bulls could compete in this era! Doubt the Warriors could compete in that physical era!
Jay Bird Agreed!
Jay Bird Iggy, Klay, and Durant rotation of guarding Jordan would make It hard on Jordan as well. That Warriors team would compete in any era they got 2 of the top 30 greatest players to ever play the game and their 3rd wheel has the regular season and playoff record for most 3s in a game. You doubt that would compete in the 90s 🤣
Remember the Bulls guarded Shaq when he was in Orlando...
Shaq averaged 27 and 11 on 64% shooting. I wouldn't call that guarding someone. Rodman was a monster on the offensive glass tho. He had 26 offensive Rebounds in 4 games.
BigBody Rico shaq is gonna get his stats no matter who it is, guarding a great player means cancelling his effect on the game. As in his 27 and 11 didn’t contribute to wins. It’s like going against a Lebron led team. He’s going to get his numbers regardless but did his numbers come in opportune moments that’s lead to winning or did he get his stats because he’s just good
Antonio Bridges shaq beat the jordan bulls in 1995
Antonio Bridges shaq was young asf wym?? And Lebron teams were always better and most the series lost we knew he was gonna lose🤦🏽♂️ even though he was the definite best player
@@antoniobridges6209 you dont understand what im saying lol Shaq played better than his usual self. Shaq shot 64%. Thats nearly 10% higher than his averages. The defensive gameplan for them was to stop everyone else. That's not Shaq's fault. Theres no player alive who would beat that Bulls team without teammates pulling their parts. Shaq was getting doubled all game and still played exceptionally well. If a team cant take advantage of being left wide open you need to consult your point guard and your coach bc somethings obviously wrong
The Chicago Bulls are the greatest team along with being the greatest dynasty in sports history💯💯💯💯
Greatest team in basketball history maybe but it’s a huge stretch to say greatest sports dynasty. Their are countless dynasty’s In football(soccer) that could easily match or beat that bulls team.
Joshua Reynolds I agree with you on greatest team but I give Woodens UCLA Bruins of the 60’s & 70’s as greatest dynasty, just look up the numbers, unmatched in any sport.
You know, the shrug game was partly brought on by the fact that Jordan's critics were saying he didn't have as much range as Clyde Drexler...and look what he did with that criticism.
Husky Shawn Kemp in '96? Showing some ignorance there...
Exactly smh that legit pissed me off fr
The 96 Bulls are much too dominant for today's game. Dennis Rodmans antics would be a problem for the tender Warriors.
Mischa S. This era of basketball is leaps and bounds better than any era before. Players are way more skilled and athletic. As a species we evolve and progress. Basketball is no different. More money is at stake, talent has gone global, and players are just innovating from what cane before. Let’s look at it like an iPhone. Would you rather own the iPhone 6 or the IPhone X? Jordan’s bulls never competed against the talent we are seeing of today’s game.
@@coachfasting7841 How come iPhone 6 battery lasts longer than iPhone X? There are layers, and different perspectives to look at when we talk about evolution and progress. The opinion that everything just gets better is flawed. Things change, they are different, doesn't necessarily mean that they are better.
@@coachfasting7841 ANother thing, is KLay more athletic than Mike, Curry more athletic than Ron Harper, Green more athletic than Rodman or Durant more athletic than Pippen?
Jordan is leaps and bounds more athletic than Klay, as well as Rodman comapred to Green, as far as the others go i at least see no advantage to Warriors.
Everything is relative and, we will always be comparing apples to oranges in these debates. Who's to say if MJ and them played in this era with all that this era provides for athletes if they were better? 🤷🏾♂️ it's all incalculable but good conversation.
Mischa S. @Milos The only sport we can quantify is track. As we can see runners are getting faster and faster. We constantly make improvements and adjustments to things based on the data we pull from what came before us. It’s called innovation. Let’s look at it like if you were a company hiring employees. Would you rather hire from just one source or be able to hire your staff from an entire world population. The fact that Jordan never competed against the global competition that Lebron has is another point against him. Lebron lost a few rings to some international greats. Manu, Tony, Dirk ect. You can’t assume that Jordan would transition well into a league that is dominated by shooting. We have seen Lebron adapt his game into being able to keep up with these shooters being the best point guard in the league as well as having the highest IQ on the floor
Bulls, lakers, warriors
If you combined regular season and playoffs, the 1996 Bulls went 87-13. That 87% is the highest in NBA history. The 2016 Warriors went 88-18 (83%). The 2001 Lakers went 71-27 (72%) and 2017 Warriors went 83-16 (84%).
1996 Bulls Facts
- Jordan won the scoring title
- Rodman won the rebounding title
- Jordan and Pippen were All-NBA FIRST Team
- Jordan, Pippen and Rodman were NBA All-Defensive FIRST Team
- Jordan was the All-Star MVP
- Jordan was the Regular Season MVP
- Phil Jackson was NBA Coach of the Year
- Toni Kukoc was the 6th Man of the Year
- Steve Kerr was #2 in 3 point percentage
- The Bulls were the #1 offensive team
- The Bulls were tied for #2 defensive team
- Jordan was the Finals MVP
- The Bulls went 72-10 and finished the deal with winning the ring.
So what you're saying is , statistically , the 1996 Bulls ARE the greatest NBA team of all time even tho they did not have the most reg season wins cause of 2016 Warriors ....
@@MindMan424 what good is going 73-9 without winning the ring. That's like at the end of a date when you're at the girl's door. The 2017 Warriors get a kiss and see you tomorrow. The 1996 Bulls go inside and seal the deal.
correction... 2016 Warriors
The thing is. The Lakers were notorious for cruising in the regular season and hitting a switch in the playoffs
“KD hasn’t really took over a finals... well yeah with Steph and everyone around him”
Well wouldn’t he be playing with that team? C’mon CB.
The hate on Kd is real 🤣🤣🤣🤣
What makes the Bulls so great being the best team ever , their three super stars MJ, Scottie, Rodman night and night out played defense along with other players Ron Harper , luke longely , Bill Cartwright , Horace Grant .
horace grant was on orlando at that point, and bill cartwright was long gone too.
How the hell are you gonna compare a 1996 Shaq to a 2001 Shaq....2 different players
People forget about the 80s Lakers. They should be up there.
They were beat by Dr J and Moses Malone 4-0, beating them 4 straight games after losing only one game the entire playoffs. Hakeem and Sampson beat them to face the Celtics in the finals. Pistons beat them in the finals in a sweep. Celtics beat them in finals. They had too many bad loses and bad series for them to even be in the conversation.
5 best teams 01 lakers 96 bulls 17 warriors 86 celtics 85 lakers...come at me haters....I think thee 85 lakers are best team ever
Asmosis Jones 6 best team ever 91 bulls, 92 bulls, 93 bulls, 96 bulls, 97 bulls, 98 bulls.
Asmosis Jones bulls are better then the Lakers lol that Laker team lost a game to AI by himself lol MJ and crew would destroy them.They also got lucky one year that the Kings got robbed by crooked refs one of the biggest rig jobs ever.Bulls were better then any laker team ever 🤷🏽♂️
@@herbertnelsonjr.9899 Look up the 87' Lakers, they were dominant! I'd take them over the 2001 Lakers in 6. They were a really high IQ team. Shaq would have ate, but Kareem, Worthy, and Magic gonna eat more combined. Michael Cooper can hold Kobe in check for at least 2-3 games in a 7 game series which would be the difference, Kobe wasn't ready for a real beast team like the 87' Lakers in his 2001 body. The 87' Lakers were a complete team with 7 players avg double digit points in their entire 87' playoff run. Don't forget my man, Big Game James Worthy, 2001 Lakers got no real answer for him. They would be running and gunning on Shaq's big ass all game, tire him out. 2001 Lakers played slow half-court bully ball with Shaq, 87' Magic would have made him run hard.
11:40 you mean the same Sonics team that won 64 games and had DPOY Gary Payton who could play defence and also score 20+ and had the explosive Shawn Kemp? The only reason the Bulls did not win 4-0 is because Scottie Pippen had a bad back and Michael Jordan also had a calf injury. These people really need to do their homework
I was checking Penny's 1995 Finals stats and they weren't bad at all! 25.5 PPG / 8 APG / 4.8 RPG / 50% FG / 46% 3-PT. In the 1996 ECF, he scored 25.5 PPG again at 48%. That's more than Kobe's PPG in the 2001 Finals.
Bulls Accomplished The Most Zero Finals Blemishes Lakers Lost A Series In 5
I love my Warriors but 2016 is hard to live down
Bulls ALL DAY
Lol Brandon that's not the Warriors team with kd...
Warriors easy 5
@Josh Meza Slow foot KuKoc wont stand a chance or add iguodala he's going to be lost.
@Josh Meza Wont matter against the warriors
@Josh Meza That was 2018 with Golden State Banged up ill stick with 5 not enough points by the Bulls
My lord people dont remember how good Penny was in 96, but also hand checking left in 93 so by 96 we gotta stop playing up the whole the defense was so much tougher. BTW in 96' Shaq was 24 Penny was 25 in 01' Kobe was 21
the NBA put in rules to outlaw hand checking before 93 but it was only really enforced starting in the early 2000's
CHRIS THE BULLS SWEPT THE SHAQ AND PENNY ORLANDO MAGIC
Don't matter the age, you in the league, and the MAGIC'S took advantage of the BULLS when Jordan went to play baseball.
Shawn Kemp was one of the best power forwards in the league at that time,the rain man,I don't know what that guy was talking about.
In no way was Kemp "husky " when he faced the Bulls in the finals. This guy knows nothing
UPDATE:
1996 Bulls Facts
- Jordan won the scoring title
- Rodman won the rebounding title
- Jordan and Pippen were All-NBA FIRST Team
- Jordan, Pippen and Rodman were NBA All-Defensive FIRST Team
- Jordan was the All-Star MVP
- Jordan was the Regular Season MVP
- Phil Jackson was NBA Coach of the Year
- Toni Kukoc was the 6th Man of the Year
- Jordan was #3 in steals per game
- Steve Kerr was #2 in 3 point percentage
- The Bulls were the #1 offensive team
- The Bulls were tied for #2 defensive team
- Jordan was the Finals MVP
- The Bulls went 72-10 and finished the deal with winning the ring.
2017 Warriors Facts
- 0 scoring title
- 0 rebounding title
- 0 All-NBA FIRST Team
- Green NBA All-Defensive FIRST Team
- 0 All-Star MVP
- 0 Regular Season MVP
- 0 NBA Coach of the Year
- Green Defensive Player of the Year
- 0 6th Man of the Year
- Green was #1 in steals per game
- Thompson was #11 in 3 point percentage
- The Warriors were the #1 offensive team
- The Warriors were the #11 defensive team
- Durant was the Finals MVP
- The Warriors went 67-15 and won the ring.
I'm not going to include 4 Warriors in the All-Star game
as an accomplishment. Doing so is equal to a participation trophy.
Minus the All-Star MVP, the rest listed above are accomplishments
achieved during the regular season and playoffs.
Just trying to show how that the 1996 Bulls dominated 1996 more than
the 2017 Warriors dominated 2017.
If you want to talk about the different eras that they played in,
then that's were the debate starts... and according to the Yahoo poll that Chris mentions, the 1996 Bulls are the best.
Of course, not all polls are correct, but looks like more people
agree with me that the 1996 Bulls are the best. Probably polled more older people that have more knowledge after watching the NBA for over 30 years.
Because seriously, even if you're 30 years old and have been
watching the NBA since you were 10, that means the only knowledge you have of the 1996 Bulls, 2001 Lakers, 1987 Lakers and 1986 Celtics are highlight videos on TH-cam. Of course, there are some 30 year olds that may have access to full games of the 80's, 90's and 2000's but that's the exception.
Warriors would've shot and ran them out the gym, they have 3 dudes capable of going for 60, they have 3 dudes who could pull up from 30, If Steph, Klay, KD are cooking alone nobody can stop them and they got bodies for Jordan on defense like KD, Klay, and Iggy they would make it tough for Jordan. And nobody on the bulls can get guard a 7fter who can shoot anywhere on the court
Is this even a serious question?
Yeah.
When the best team in the best era isnt in the conversation? The 1984-85 LA Lakers.
Yes we are all bored.But the separation is the Bulls length and versatility.Harper, brown ,pippen,jordan and Dennis would be hell in a closing line up in todays small ball.Against the warriors dennis would neutralize draymond cut his 8 assist down to like four.Randy brown would do a great job running with steph harper on klay jordan would be so fresh as pippen takes on durant.Kukoc and kerr would neutralize iggy and com.
I just hate it when chris makes it sound like teams can leave pip and kukoc open to double mike
@@honorablechairmans4908 bla bla bla shoulda woulda coulda
Daryl Vergara huh 🤔?
Judge a team on what they did season and playoffs combined. 83 Sixers only lost one playoff game, and swept the Showtime Lakers in the finals.
72 -10 with a chip nuff said
Just shows how good Rodman and pippen is👌🏿💯🔥
I'm 26 and it's not even a question who's #1:
1. 96-98 Bulls
2. 2017-2018 Warriors
3. 2000-2002 Lakers
4. Magic's Lakers
5. Bird's Celtics
6. 91-93 Bulls
7. Duncan's Spurs
8. 60s Celtics
9. Isiah's Pistons
10. Big 3 Heat
1.Magic’ and showtime 2.Shaq &Kobe Lakers 3.Bulls 2nd 3peat team 4.Larry Bird Celtics 5. Isiah Thomas Pistons
@Tony Montorner 60s Celtics, Lakers & Celtics 80s, Bulls 90s, and Lakers & Spurs from 2000s are way better than these soft soy boy Warriors
1987 LAKERS
@ WHATTTT?
You got Some Explaining to Do🤷🏿♂️
MESSIAH TV You are correct, showtime Lakers are the best!
That Bulls team was scary.
Kobe looking like Eddie Jones in the pic
People always talk about better defense in 90’s but I would say there’s better defenders now because you CAN’T hand check and put your hands on the offensive player, so Jordan would dominate on offense but on defense it’s gonna be hard to defend the warriors or lakers but defenders today would easily dominate and adjust to defense in 90’s
I think the people of the free world is tired of the media propaganda surrounding Lebron.
MJ the GOAT 🔥
🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
You mean the propoganda around michael jordan..people act like he only played 6 seasons and never got swept in the first round...LEBRON THE GOAT
@@TheShowstopper20000
MJ 10 scoring titles
Lebron 1 scoring title
MJ 9 1st team defense
Lebron 6 1st team defense
MJ 1x defensive player of year
Lebron 0x defensive player of year
MJ leads league in steals 3x
Lebron 0x leader in steals
MJ 2 100+ block seasons
Lebron 0 100+ block seasons
MJ only player with 200 steal 100 block season (twice)
MJ 5 season MVPs
Lebron 4 season MVPs
MJ 6 finals MVPs
Lebron 3 finals MVPs
MJ #1 offensive win shares per 48min.
MJ #1 career PPG (30.1, 50%FG)
MJ #1 playoff PPG (33.4, 50%FG)
MJ #1 all time PER (player efficiency rating.)
MJ games played 1,072
Lebron games played 1,258
Nall I was thinking I'm tired of the propaganda to continue to push a Jordan brand, Bron the GOAT, until you him or Jordan win three then come back two years later and win three straight again in this era, my suggestion to you is get out the 90's...
@@TheShowstopper20000 Facts
Jordan’s Bulls dominated the era of big men. All the other championships from 1991 to 2003 were won by dominant big men. In the era of small ball, there was Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Kukoc, Harper, Kerr, and Longley who was a good player.
How many of those big men actually had great teams or a great second player on their teams 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Melvyn Singleton The ones that won when Jordan wasn’t playing: 1) Hakeem with Drexler, 2) Duncan with Robinson in 1999. The ones that Jordan played and beat: 1) Ewing and Starks, 2) prime Laimbeer and Rodman, 3) Malone and Stockton.
So they go act like the Spurs in 2017 wasn't kicking the Warriors ass until Kawhi got hurt.
U gotta get a back2back to be invited to this convo.
Julius35C facts
Julius35C 2020 and still crying about that one hit wonder game?
@Dats a paddlin it was one game they would have beat the spurs in 5 or 6. Im a spurs fan the bulls are not guarding Kevin Durant
The reason the Bulls struggled to beat the Sonics in games 4 through 6 was because Payton slowed down Jordan:
First three games: 31 points, 46 fg%, 50 3fg%, 12.3 FTA.
Last three games(when Payton started guarding Jordan): 23.7 points, 36.7 fg%, 11.1 3fg% 10 FTA.
It depends on how you're measuring it. Are you comparing them against how good they were within their era? Or are you comparing them against each other? Because if it's the former, it's the Bulls. If it's the latter, it's the Kobe/Shaq Lakers. And if you're just comparing pure stats without context, it's the Warriors.
I think it’s between GSW and the bulls. I’d just ask Kerr he was ok both teams I’d believe whatever he says
Rob discredits the 60's Celtics and in the same show will say there is a short menu "wins and losses"....
So 8 teams and mostly unathletic white guys is how we crown the 60s celtics?
The 2014 Spurs should get more respect But I'd say Jordan's Bulls
U are right
..an old bunch defeating lbj,d
Wade and Bosh in their primes
Exactly and not only that it was the biggest point differential in finals history
@@bradivanson925 but for me thats on miami, le cramping james playing and complaining like bitch.. if you are the goat you cant lose to 38 year old t.duncan while you are in you prime
That 2003,2005 and 2007 championship teams were better.
They almost lost to the 8th seed Mavs in the first round went 7 games.
The only answers is the team who went 6-0 in the finals. Unbeatable team.
3 peats arent easy its tough
A lot of all time great teams
'83 Sixers with Moses, Dr. J, Toney and Cheeks.
'86 Celtics with Bird, Mchale, Parish, Johnson, Walton off the bench
'87 Lakers with Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Scott, Cooper, Thompson
'89 Pistons with Isiah, Dumars, Aguirre, Rodman, Laimbeer, Johnson off the bench
'96 Bulls with Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Kukoc off the bench
'01 Lakers with Shaq and Kobe
'13 Heat with LeBron, Wade, Bosh and Allen off the bench
'17 Warriors with KD, Steph, Klay, DG, Iggy off the bench
@Terry Bogard not on the level of these teams they werent stacked like these teams
96 Bulls are the greatest. 17 Warriors are the best. Imo
Jordan in today? It will be a dunk contest for 48 mins every night.😂
The 21-year-old Kobe was 2000. He averaged about 15.6 PPG in the Finals at 36%. That was a SHAQ season. Kobe's breakout was 2001 WCF at age 22 going to turn 23 in August.
1 96 Bulls
2 87-88 Lakers
3 01 Lakers
4 86 Celtics
5 17 Warriors
Kash Klay 1987 Lakers were better than 1988 Lakers. I like your top 5 though. All five of those teams might be able to be the best. We will never know.
Tod Wilkinson you must be from Detroit.... “The Bulls were great for more than 1 year” Thanks Captain Obvious
The 1988 Lakers and the Boston Celtics were way better than the Bulls. Chicago beat okay teams.
Tod Wilkinson You have the Pistons way too high...96 Bulls 72-10 swept a really good Heat team Swept Penny Shaq Magic Team ran out on the Sonics 3-0 that series was over quick Pippen was way better than 1st run Rodman>Grant Harper > Paxton Kukoc > Armstrong Jordan was still 95% of his prime I purposely named one year teams cause that was the topic ...The Lakers was a pick em 87/88
Jonas better stop drinking that Similac. Scottie D's up Durant, Mike D's up Klay, Harper D's up Steph, Rodman D's up Draybumb. Are you kidding me, Durant is the only one that will get his. The rest of the team would be on lock. FACTS!!!
Curry gone get his too he gone run ron old ass in the ground
With the old rules the 90s Knicks would have swept those Skinny 2017 Warriors
erik puka lay down the crack lol. Ain’t no team ever gonna go 16-1 in the playoffs. The Knocks would have been handled easily and people would have complained about the mismatch
And with the modern rules the Knicks would get swept
Glad rob G pointed out they talking about particular teams not eras.
ccae07 rob g is a idiot
Bulls 3 peat twice End of discussion! If MJ doesn’t retire the first time they win 8 in a row
Yeah but 2 different teams
Adam Guarno the only difference is Rodman. Jordan 6 and 0. Vs James 3 and 6 that is facts!
What does two theee peats have to do with the 96 bulls🤣🤣? Dudes don’t even know how to have real discussion
@@michaelparker6240 Like I said MJ was different. They would have won 8 The Bulls were a dynasty until management broke it up
@@michaelparker6240 Have you ever played basketball? Not talking about street ball. The NBA is built on Superstars Da Bulls had 3 HOF players nobody else in the league had that at the time of the 2nd three peat. I know basketball because I played it too. Google Me!
This always depends on the rules the nba woulda called
People a t like Shawn Kemp wasn't a straight up killer when Jordan played him. People were literally saying he was and going to be a Malone or Barkley. He didn't have that longevity, but he was at that level in his early prime.
Agreed Kemp dnt get any RESPECT he was a Beast. Zion is shawn kemp
He was good but don’t get carried away. Barkley & Malone were one level above Kemp.
Kemp's nickname changed from Rain Man to REIGN Man after that series. Everyone expected the Sonics to comeback even stronger. Alas, they imploded. Kemp was basically Malone and Barkley in one body!
2017 Warriors, that first year with KD. Only lost 1 game all playoffs. Was before Steph got his bag, so all that fire power plus the depth. I'll take my chances with that team against any other team ever.
kobe2curry4rose1 15 playoff wins in a row and it took a historic shooting night to stop 16-0
kobe2curry4rose1 I bet you was born in 2000 yes ?
Bruh... 96 Jordan definitely wasn’t not getting beat up, you weren’t allowed to touch him anymore.
Bulls#1, Lakers Shaq and Kobe#2, Show time Lakers#, Bird Celtics#4,GS Warriors #5💯💯
Twoofus0525 Warriors would beat Kobe and Shaq. Kobe already said he never could gaurd KD his whole career.
@First name Last name bro u tripping if u think warriors would be Kobe and Shaq lmfao😂🤣😂
A couple of those San Antonio teams would be trouble for any team. Tim Duncan was real, either with David Robinson or Tony Parker and Manu Ginobli.
The 1983 Philadelphia 76ers...greatest team ever
Sherman Pearson I agree
Good observation. I remember Moses Malone said something like fo-fo-fo meaning they would sweep the playoffs and they almost did, losing just one game! Nobody gives any credit to Andrew Toney, who was meant to be an unbelievable player whose career was tarnished because of injuries. I also like the 85-86 Celtics with a healthy Walton coming off the bench and any team with Jordan and a peak Scottie Pippen. I mean seriously, who would want to go against Jordan in a finals series?
Sixers had too many weapons. There bench warmers could ball.
90'S CHICAGO BULLS HAD A BALANCE OF DEFENSE/OFFENSE THAT WAS ABOUT AS SCARY AS A STEPHEN KING'S FILM!!
Don’t sleep on my Spurs. Either the 2003 team with Duncan Robinson Parker and Ginobili or 2014 with Duncan Kawhi Parker Ginobili
Josh Ringer that’s fine. The topic is the best team for one season, not for a two year span
K L Sutton lol yea I was just about to edit my comment. Meant 2003.
I love these guys. My quickest way to feel better.
The 96 Chicago Bulls are #1...Every other championship team is playing for second place and on down.
The 1987 Lakers were 100% better. Or the 1986 Celtics or Wilt's 76ers beating the 8x defending champion Celtics easily
It was a SWEEP, not 5 games. Bulls fucked those Magic boys up in 4 games. The Bulls were actually down by 15 points at the half in game 2 and displayed probably the best defensive half I've ever seen...Orlando only score 34 points the rest of the game and lost by 5. The Bulls would out-smart that Lakers team. The real match up would be the Bulls vs. the 86 Celtics with 5 HOFs or even vs. the 83' 76ers with 4 HOFs and Andrew Toney.
Kobe and shaq all day, an unstoppable force an a unmovable object. Im never gonna let the go along to get alongs or your stats tell me i didn't see what i saw.
Best era 80's and early 2000
"I'm the poo poo King" 😂😂😂
Chris Shaq and Penny got swept by the Rockets in 95 and swept by the Pacers in 94.
Bulls and it’s not close, Shaq and Kobe beat trash in the finals. Reggie Miller Iverson and Kidd were the 3rd best players on the floor. When they played that great high IQ 04 pistons team they got destroyed.
Tbh it didn’t matter who the lakers played that year in the East they were destroying them period no cap. But cmon man look who they beat in the west Portland , Sacramento, San Antonio . Sweep all 3 teams . Stacked teams . So cmon man
Yo would have a point if the Lakers didnt destroyed The Spurs in their path to the finals those Spurs had Duncan and Robinson and Pop as a coach so they had High IQ
Sac, Spurs, Portland etc they faced High IQ teams in their path to coronation
@@ccae07 Facts bro. Lakers finals opponents weren't great but the teams they beat in the west were great. Especially those Blazers, Kings and Spurs teams.
Goat Man yea man people gotta put this in perspective lakers been to 7 out of the 10 nba finals during 2000-2010 , they beat a lot of great west teams . This coming from a bron fan
Chris Broussard thank u sir!!! Thank u sir!!! Chris said when people say Jordan didn’t shoot the 3 well... NO ONE SHOT THE THREE ALOT!!! He would adjust n shot the three well!!!
None of these teams are better than the 80s Lakers or 80s celtics
Hard to argue with you. I'm a bulls fan but the 80's Lakers and celtics saved the whole league and were amazing
Yea those teams were ridiculous. Worthy won a fmvp with Kareem and Magic. Prime 80s Lakers and Celtics were to dominate for any all great team. I think Jordan is by far the greatest player but lvl of talent he had vs the prime 80s Lakers and Celtics is just to much. I wouldn't pick a team vs those 2. HOF for days on those teams with multiple players winning league and fmvps.
Game 3 in the last Bulls finale. that was the best team performance in the history. Perfect game from the greatest team ever. Jazz look like amateur team.
Utah Jazz 54, Chicago Bulls 96
Scoring by quarter: 14-17, 17-32, 14-23, 9-24
Pts: Karl Malone 22
Rebs: Greg Ostertag 9
Asts: John Stockton 7 Pts: Michael Jordan 24
Rebs: Ron Harper 10
Asts: Ron Harper 7
@AnEn Grow up boy. Jordan was the God in the human shape as we all knows. Just grow up, boy.
Jordan to me is the goat, but how many pick the bulls for the greatest team because of him? all
I would say Lakers 01 > Bulls 96.
@@mjjumps One man doesn't make a team.
Kobe and jordan would cancel each other out, but shaq is the biggest mismatch between the two teams...I think Lakers would take the series vs the Bulls
@@Arthur-bz8vm Thats my point. Lakers has 2 actual stars, bulls really one.
Arturo Lara whoah...Kobe and MJ don’t cancel out. One of those players could hit over 2,500 “consecutive” shots and still not match the other player’s FG%. One of them was faster, quicker, more athletic, more clutch, more efficient, better scorer, better passer, better rebounder, better fundamentals, better footwork, better body control, had higher vertical, able to play better through sickness and injury, had a greater will-to-win, etc than the other.
Also, Shaq with Orlando was a mismatch too but it didn’t matter as Rodman held his own. Shaq was a mismatch in 2004 as well but the Pistons didn’t care.
jtremaine23 all I know is a young kobe gave the goat buckets...no way he would stop prime Kobe Bryant...I swear michael jordan fans think he is god....he lost too. Kobe is the one player that would go at mike like no other...go check what a young kobe used to do to him smh
give me 86 celtics. 5 hall of famers, 4 in their prime & a healthy walton. all day.
The guards would get killed by the 96 bulls
Tim Dunkin in his prim didn't have a team like the Lakers.
Sam Nelson idk man. In 03 Duncan had Robinson, Parker, Ginobili. Steve Kerr & Stephen Jackson. And that 2014 team with Kawhi was deep. That’s why I’d put those teams up against anybody
Kyle Flores don’t agree with the put them up against anyone part lol. But I get it.
Bill Russell Celtics were Real though better than the credit they're getting. Bill Russell himself was a better basketball player than people admit he did everything, not just play defense. Bill Russell should be ranked higher on the all time list, Wilt Chamberlain too.
LeTaco would never be on this list...🤔
It's funny that bulls was coached by phill as the lakers and Kerr was part of the bulls so everything about these great teams surrounds the bulls
This is an interesting thing: I think we are discounting the fact that the two coaches of these top three teams of all time are Phil Jackson, Phil Jackson and Steve Kerr. Could the Phil Jackson lead Lakers beat his younger self Phil Jackson lead Chicago Bulls. To make it interesting, let the coaches have the knowledge of their earlier selves. This means that the Lakers version of Phil would know the team and the plays and the weaknesses of the Chicago Bulls teams he coached. And Steve Kerr having been a player who played with both Michael and Phil would have the experience by playing with both of them.
Langston Richardson exactly, always thought about that. Also there’s the idol factor. Would a team like the warriors have prior knowledge of the bulls? Would they be star struck going up against the bulls?
Kyle Flores lakers wouldn’t Kobe and Shaq would love that challenge
James Dawny they sure would
I’m sorry man but those second bulls teams are pretty much perfectly constructed
I'd take the lakers, that 2001 Shaq was unstoppable!
People dont understand how dominate shaq was fo those 3 years and kobe was cutting tf up !
Shaq was, but everyone else was.
That supporting cast (with the exception of Kobe) was not on the same level as the 96 Bulls imo. I do miss those Shaq days though. When he set the FT record in the Finals, it was pretty amazing. Poor Pacers tried everything.
@@fatpatlives1998 buddy you forget how sacramento got cheated one year , and also the other year derek fisher hit the most tough clutch shot to save them from elimination against the spurs , the 2001 team had no competition but the other 2 years they barely squeeked by
@@qwertyasdfg9663 that was 2002 ...the bench was starting to age at that point that's why San Antonio beat them in 03...that 01 team ran through the west no competition what so ever
@@qwertyasdfg9663 01 was one of the few years shaq and Kobe stayed on the same page
00 Lakers>01 Lakers
Bulls too much clamps down defense for anybody. Let's get real.
mkeonine This era of basketball is leaps and bounds better than any era before. Players are way more skilled and athletic. As a species we evolve and progress. Basketball is no different. More money is at stake, talent has gone global, and players are just innovating from what cane before. Let’s look at it like an iPhone. Would you rather own the iPhone 6 or the IPhone X? Jordan’s bulls never competed against the talent we are seeing of today’s game.
@@coachfasting7841 THEY'RE NOT READY FOR THOSE TYPE OF FACTS THO. THEY JUST WANNA ROMANTICIZE THE JORDAN ERA.
@@coachfasting7841 they would simply outscore them with threes.
Coach Fasting ahahahaha you know after the fall of Rome was the dark ages. After Jordan left the league. Rome fell. This era can’t touch the 80’s 😂😂😂😂
Great offense always will trump great defense 💯💯 . They weren't the best offensively
15-1 in an era where the NBA defense was tough.
They faced virtually no real competition in that 2001 run, no offense. The 2001 Spurs only had a great in his prime Duncan, Robinson was aging and they had absolutely no legit backcourt to deal with Kobe.
Bulls would be better in this era. Be dumb.
96 bulls followed by 87 lakers
People sleep on that 17 Warriors team but that’s one of the best teams I ever seen, they were unbeatable, the 01 Lakers team was too they’ll give the Bulls a good run
17 Warriors didn't play anybody of significance in the postseason. The 18 Warriors were basically the same team and almost got beat by the Rockets with CP3 and Harden .
@Tony Montorner 2 all time greats who never won anything. That's the point. The Warriors really should have lost that series if CP3 stayed healthy. If the 18 Warriors struggled against PJ Tucker's perimeter defense, Jordan, Pippen and Rodman would have ripped them a new a$$hole!
@Tony Montorner I would take the '96 Sonics that won 66 games over the 2018 Rockets. Not sure they could beat the Warriors though. Durant would be a problem.
Moses Malone needs a hyped up documentary to come out, so it can give the media a reason to talk about that great 1983 76ers team
Kobe and Shaq
Why do these callers keep trying to throw the 2001 Lakers in the mix. They arguably had the lowest team IQ of any championship team in NBA history (and I've watched them for over 40 years)!!!
What great team did they beat in the finals???
The Sixers...the Pacers...cmon!!!
As soon as they came up against a team who was great defensively, they got swept!
Even sadder, that team didn't even have a superstar!
Anthony Zarate they beat great teams going to the finals the west was loaded
If it were a 7 game series it’s the bulls. If we are talking just 1 game. The warriors for sure. If the warriors have a good shooting night nobody beats them on any 1 given game. You can’t guard 3 guys who can pull up from 30.
In Jordan's era they would be getting pressed and trapped 94' all game long. There would be no pulling up from 30, only in transitions and fast-breaks maybe.
For me I like the 92 Bulls because I thought their team had a more suffocating defense then their 96 team. I know both those teams are different and the 96 team obviously won 72 games
That was an older Jordan, Pippen and Rodman. 86 Celtics, 87 Lakers, 89 Pistons, 83 Sixers give the Bulls a run for their money and most likely beat the 96 Bulls or any of the 90s Bulls teams
@@Eatdie That was in Game 3 and that was a great defensive Bulls team. Jazz get slept on both 97 and 98. This soft era is terrible I agree