Chris Broussard & Rob Parker - Which NBA Team Was the Greatest to NEVER Win a Title
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- THE ODD COUPLE - Chris Broussard & Rob Parker discuss which NBA teams they thought looked amazing on paper but could never bring home an NBA Championship.
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They forgot about orlando magic with shaq-penny-grant and a lot of great role players
Just gonna say.
Dats a paddlin not really the Rockets and Bulls matched up well that year and The Rockets weren't really elite that year either
Penny second year and Shaq 3rd year nah shouldn't even made it
That magic team showed their true colors of immaturity when nick anderson missed those free throws and things for once didn’t go their way. Had they won game 1 in the finals things might’ve been different. Nick stealing the ball from MJ in game 1 of the semis set the stage for the magic to gain the confidence to beat the bulls but blowing that 18 pt lead at home in the finals cost them all their momentum.
2012 OKC Thunder
KD, Westbook, Harden, Ibaka, Perkins
You could’ve left Perk out lol
That was the team back then and🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 on NBA2k
Harden was a role player back then tho
They were better in 2016 IMO. More experience
OnceUponaSavage they were or the 2014 team
The Portland TrailBlazers with Pippen, Rasheed, and Steve Smith on paper they were stacked.
I was just watching the Lakers first title w/ Shaq and Kobe (it's cool to check those out since we have no sports) and I just didn't remember (or just didn't know) how talented that Trail Blazers team was. The three you mentioned plus: Arvidas Zybonis, Detlef Schrempf, Bonzi Wells, Damon Stoudemire, Jermaine O'Neil. You could make the argument that was the most talented team in the league, on paper anyway.
@Steve Jobs those series was fixed especially the kings Vs Lakers in 02'
Facts
@Steve Jobs that was b.s. of what they did to the Sacramento Kings because that was the team back then. Letting Shaq and Co. Make it to the finals
I was gonna say the trailblazers but with drexler, Robinson, porter,kersey
How is everyone forgetting stockton/malone utah teams
AshtonTres right! it only took the bulls super team to beat them
My opinion also. Jazz, knicks, and pacers comes to my mind. Thise were GREAT teams. Not good but great. Those teams stuck and were together a long time and had great chemistry. They just were great in a time where there was a team that was greater. Guess whoooooooo??!!🙏🏼🤣👍🏼🤙🏼
They mentioned the Stockton Jazz team .. Listen to the video 😅
Not in the discussion.
The thing is there were other great teams. Seattle, NY, Bulls, Lakers, Detroit. Boston.
I've scrolled through some of the comments and the one team I'm not seeing is the Phoenix Suns team w/ Barkley, KJ, Majerle, Chambers, and crew. I've always thought that of the Jordan Bulls 6 titles, that was his most competitive series that really could have gone either way. Those games were close and both teams were evenly matched. A tip of the ball here or there, and who knows.
So true!
Their sorry ass defense lost that series.
Not having Cedric Ceballos really hurt them
That franchise would have won if they would have been smart enough to trade Dumas or Majerle for someone who could guard Jordan. Majerle wouldn't and KJ and Dumas couldn't.
Sir u know yo basketball but hell no that was not his most competitive team,Barkley was arguably the player he played in finals 1 thru 5 Jazz, Blazers, Sonics, SUNS, Lakers because Magic had hiv but didn’t no it
SONICS between 1991 and 1996
77 Sixers Dr J, George McInnis, Doug Collins , Lloyd B. Free, Darryl Dawkins, Steve Mix, Caldwell Jones, Henry Bibby and Kobe's dad.
Also the 80 and 82 76ers..
Yep the Kings were robbed that year. That was one of the worst Ref tampering ever!
- YES! Secondly, the Dirk team against Heat in 2006. And that Pippen-Portland vs Lakers. The refs favored Lakers against the Kings and the Blazers. That 3-peat Shaq yells about might have only been 1 ring.
Mykal Judah well the kings did miss allot of free throws that game 7. Think about that
1997, 1998 jazz
1993-1995 suns
1994 knicks
90-92 blazers
Chris Webber Kings
ALLFacts✅
93-95 Suns were overrated.The only great Player was Barkley
That seems pretty biased to a certain decade
erik puka nah that team was stacked they had more talent than the bulls imo
erik puka you don’t need to have 3 superstar for being a great team 🤦🏾♂️
1997-98 Jazz, 02 Kings, 06 Suns, 12’ OKC
2002 Sacramento Kings..
Off top
The Mavs with Nash, Finley and Dirk was bananas
Dirk doesn't fracture his ankle in the 03 WCF vs the Spurs, they might have 4 chips instead of 5
James Hall II that Spurs team was stacked! Look up that roster and you can easily say they should be the favored that year. They Spurs big 3 PLUS Robinson.
@@blowc1612 Yeah but it wasn't Robinson in his prime, he was on his last legs but they still took them to 6 minus Dirk for the final 3 games
How about the 90s Utah jazz?!? They had alot of epic failures before they even made it to the finals and of course into Michael goat Jordan
So failing and failing over and over again and making it one time doesn't qualify you for this topic bro lol
6:26 Rob Parker: “yeah i always call it the the uhh uhh what do you call it” 😂😂😂
How come people forget the Jazz,Malone,Stockton,Hornacek
wow I forgot
That should be the most talked about team on here. That’s how you know these fools have no knowledge really.
Russell ,Ostertag ,
The Jazz with Stockton and Malone would be in my top 3 of teams for this list
Sleeper pick, the 1999 New York Knicks. Latrell Sprewell, Patrick Ewing( he got hurt early in the playoffs, Alan Houston, Marcus Camby, Larry Johnson, Antoine Davis, Charlie Ward, Chris Dudley. Made it to the finals, but had alot of injuries.
Alot of you'll picks never made the finals lol
Milwaukee Bucks of the 80's.
2009 celtics for an individual season..the kg injury killed em but they were on pace to win 65+ games and probably cruise to back to back championships
Nah I think the Lakers would've beaten them that year ... Plus the Lakers would've had home court against that Celtics team because , the Lakers had a better record that season ...
@@GreenBoy424 If kg played the whole season then the celtics might have had a better record. Either way it would have been an epic rematch against the lakers
2018 rockets.... The only team to take the warriors with kd to 7 games
That's a good one ..
Kawhi don't get hurt in 2017 they would have beat them
Never made the finals
@@kahlilh1 doesn't matter. The were closer to beating the warriors than a cavs team that went to 4 straight finals with 3 hall of Famers.
@@UnplayedGaming how were they closer when they won a championship against them?
Kings that lost to lakers in game 7 were really good
I was agreeing until he said Ryan Hollins
The 1996 Bulls had Jack Haley. Calm down, bruh. Every team has scrubs.
I still don't know why Matt Barnes mentioned Ryan Hollins. He wasn't with my Clippers that long. Doesn't mean they didn't have talent like CP3, Blake, DJ, JJ, and Jamal.
Bro he was joking even Barnes knows that Hollins was a joke
😂😂😂
Just_Will 😂😂😂😂😂
97-98 Utah Jazz
The Sacramento Queens with Webber, Peja, Christie, Bibby, Vlade, etc...won 61 games in 2001 - 2002. Those Suns were on track to go all the way until Steve Nash took that forearm shiver cheap shot from Robert Horry, that was messed up.
Every single team that loss in Conference Finals, or the NBA Finals to the MJ Bulls are the greatest teams to never win a title.
This topic is not about how much you failed and never won it's about how much success you've had and never won that is what makes you the BEST to never win something not how many times you failed before you almost made it and didn't
That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. Honestly
Portland, Phoenix and Seattle each only had 1 HOF on their team...no where near one of the greatest teams to never win
For me it’s That 05 Phoenix Team...Nash, Amare, Shawn Marion, Joe Johnson, Richardson.. that team was loaded
People sleeping on how of a monster Pistol Pete Maravich was in college
Kemar Ballentine he averaged over 40 without a 3 point line
Dude was unreal
Did he really say Ryan Hollins? Made me choke my water, like the choke he is.
Lmao
It was out of respect because they both are analysts now. Everyone knows the truth about Hollins.
I just spit
The 1996 Bulls had Jack Haley. Calm down, bruh. Every team has scrubs.
I still don't know why Matt Barnes mentioned Ryan Hollins. He wasn't with my Clippers that long. Doesn't mean they didn't have talent like CP3, Blake, DJ, JJ, and Jamal.
#1. 2002 Sacramento Kings
#2. 2005 Phoenix Suns
#3. 1994 Seattle Super Sonics
#4. 2007 Dallas Mavericks
#5. 1993 Phoenix Suns
#6. 1995 Orlando Majic
#7. 1997 Utah Jazz
#8. 2003 Dallas Mavericks
#9. 1992 Portland Trailblazers
#10. 2016 Oklahoma City Thunder
The Sonics of the 1990s, I mean Shawn Kemp and Gary Payton that was a team that really had a chance bro win a championship...They had a couple of blunders but they are one of the best teams to of never one!!
Jordan held back a lot of guy from winning the championship
They weren’t the best to never win it. A could name a bunch of teams that didn’t win it that would smoke them.
@@Maal7432 They are in The Conversation, Jordan has his most fits in the Finals against Seattle, GP made Jordan work to get his in that finals... George Karl didn't put GP on Jordan to start the series because he had a torn calf muscle, same injury Durant ha this past spring, but GP said after they went down 3-0 we ain't got nothing to lose, so he started picking Jordan up...But they had their blunders like against The Nuggets in 1994, they blew it against the them and the year prior in 1993 Game 7 in Phoenix Everytime Seattle took a breath it was a foul...Bottom line is they had two top 5 players at their position in the 90s GP was a top 5 point guard and Shawn Kemp was a top 5 Power Forward...As far as best teams to never win it it's between the 1990s Sonic's, Jazz and Blazers..they were all great teams
They're on my short list of best non champs.
Imagine if they kept pippen! Multiple Championships 4 sure!
What about the 2001 Bucks? With a Young Ray Allen. Got robbed in the ECF..
Everyone forgets the 96 supersonics
The number 1 team is Sacramento Kings from the 2000’s.
No way Utah Jazz
Late 90’s Utah, 18 Rockets, The 70’s Suns teams, the 00’s Suns teams, the 60’s Lakers.
Kings didn't have Tim Donaghy..... He served time for influence on games..... That 02 title was tainted to me
@@mixedpimpin Mike Bibby and Doug Christie arent Steph and Klay but ive always said this: the Kings lost their chance to win a championship that year. Their style opened the door for what GSW does now. Mike Bibby is never talked about because they didn't win that year. Had they won the title, he would be talked more because of who they beat to get there. The Kings are a forgotten team in NBA history because of that
Clippers' main problem throughout their history has actually been in the draft. Not really trades. They missed on so many legends. Could've drafted KG in 1995 and Kobe in 1996.
Malice at the Palace Pacers. That team was stacked and headed to the Finals that year.
Agreed
2002 Sacramento Kings
Refs just had to help the Lakers for ratings.
Pat4Clippers like they’ve been helping the clippers this year? get outta here man
Like they helped Jordan's bulls
@Yuvi A sure that didn't help, but for players to foul out (Sacramento's bigs specifically) in about 10 minutes is ridiculous. The amount of phantom calls was criminal. How the hell do you call a foul on a guy that gets an elbow to the face?!
2005 Pacers
Jermaine Oneal
Ron Artest
Al Harrington
Stephen Jackson
Reggie Miller
True weren't they legit contenders until malice at the palace happened?
@@bri12345ification Yes 😢
This team was really good. Don't forget Danny Granger.
@@luisinsantana Man a playoff series with the Pistons that year would've been a hell of a series
Tinsley and Crosher was hoopin that year too
Utah jazz is one of the greatest team too never win it and Charles Barkley Phoenix Suns.
Man add LEON to the podcast more often. Dude know his stuff . Greatest college player hands down is KAREEM.
1) '96 Sonics Payton & company
2) '04-05 Suns Nash & company
3) '02-03 Kings Webber & company
4) 2000 Jail Blazers
5) '94 Suns Barkley & co
6) '97 Jazz Malone & co
2002 Sacramento kings , 2003 Sacramento kings
J Kidd & KMart New Jersey Nets!
Is this Leon, as in Above The Rim, Birdie's (Tupac) Brother, Leon? That's what's up.
The year they beat San Antonio and blew it against Houston was their chance. But Josh Smith and Pablo Prigioni had other plans lmao.
Josh Smith was Ray Allen that day dude hit like 5 3s in row
2018 rockets deserve some love best record and up 3-2 on a healthy warriors then cp3 hamstring happens
Hamstring or the bricks in game 7?
Brian Ng both
Rockets won 95, 96 until the G.O.A.T came back
Winston Smith ?
73-9 Warriors is my choice, the 2006-07 Phoenix Suns and the 2012-13 Spurs (because both teams had suspensions in their series, and the other was just unfortunate with how things turned in the last 33 seconds)
If that's the case that Heat team that lost to Kawhi Leonard with Lebron Lames, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Ray Allen, Mike Miller, Chris Birdman Anderson, Shane Battier, and the list goes on
Dats a paddlin oh ok
The best team to never win the finals is the 1998 Utah Jazz and the 2016 Warriors....end of story. The clippers didn’t even make it to the damn conference finals let alone finals.
definitely the Jazz...but the warriors were winning titles every other year. I think the discussion is a team that never won a title...
@@ronaldkregar7139 Different year.
3:30 they went to the conference finals in 2005, 2007 and also in 2010 as well, come on Rob
The best team that I ever saw that didn't win an NBA Championship were the SACRAMENTO KINGS with Barkley's Phoenix squad coming in second to me. Remember that the Kings had the best record in the West that year at 61-21 and NO DOUBT the NBA cheated the Kings that year in Game 6 because Stern didn't want the series to end in Sacramento. Before Webber injured his knee they were DEFINITELY on their way to win the whole thing and would have dismantled that 3-peat business.....all of L.A. should be thanking Stern still to this day. Broussard and Rob should have spent just a little more time on this one....100%.
Man..... im 100 with you. Utah didnt get robbed, they just lost to the best player of all time. Sacramento got low down jobbed. They got to game 7 and Donaghy ruined things for the Kings. Had they beat the Lakers, they would get the championship against New Jersey. Mike Bibby, national champion at U of A, never gets respect as he should, because of that.
Before he won the title in 1983, Dr J. played on some great Philadelphia 76ers teams. Coached by Billy Cunningham, teammates Maurice Cheeks, Bobby Jones, Darryl Dawkins, George McGinnis, Caldwell Jones and Andrew "The Boston Strangler" Toney, among others.
Erving lost to Portland in the 1977 finals after getting out to a 2 games to zero lead, lost four straight and lost game six by 2 points
Lost to the Lakers in the 1980 finals (they were down 3 games to 2, in game six, Magic Johnson started at center and scored 42 points and the 76ers lost and their home court),
Blew a 3 to 1 series lead against the Celtics in the 1981 Eastern Conference finals (5 of the 7 games were by two points or less and the 76ers lost game 7 in Boston by 1 point)
Lost to the Lakers in the 1982 finals.(Again they blew a 3 games to 1 lead on Boston in the Eastern Conference Finals, ,but won game 7 in Boston.)
The MIlwaukee Bucks had some good teams around that time too.
If you want to talk about one year, people pick Golden State, but that Magic Johnson Laker team that lost to Boston in seven games.
James Worthy and that bad pass that led to them losing the game. Kevin McHale with the Kurt Rambis clothesline that turned the series around.
Blake helped lifted the Clippers. He was proud to be one. But he didn't have that killer in him. He enjoyed partying, women, acting, stand-up comedy, and not playing defense.
Pat4Clippers you could not have said it any better. He didn’t really put in the work until his ass got shipped out to Detroit
2010s Thunder. 2000s Suns. 1990s Jazz. 1980s Rockets.
90s knicks
Leon is the man. Legendary actor
Dick Bavetta, "the company man" worked game 6 in king's Lakers. Bill Simmons points out several other questionable must win games in which Bavetta also worked.
These Harden’s Rockets might top the list when it’s all said and done
Idk about topping the list but they’ll probably be near Steve Nash’s and the Suns
The Rockets have been to two Western Conference Finals, and in 2015 unseated the Clippers themselves.
If you compile all of the talent they've had at various junctures, it's incredible. James Harden, Chris Paul, Dwight Howard, Chandler Parsons, Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza, Clint Capela, Ryan Anderson, Patrick Beverley, Jason Terry, Lou Williams, Montrezl Harrell, Nene, Gerald Green, Carmelo Anthony, Kenneth Faried, P.J Tucker...
Now they have Russell Westbrook. It's ridiculous.
Gabriel Dore speaking of the Rockets what about the one that won 22 games in a row with Yao Ming and T Mac. If both stayed healthy I didn’t see anybody beating them. Yao was too big good match up against the Laker bigs and they had good role players. T Mac and Kobe would have gone at it too.
99-00 Portland Trailblazers : Rasheed Wallace
, Scottie Pippen, Steve Smith, Damon Stoudamire, Arvydas Sabonis, Detlef Schrempf, Greg Anthony, Bonzi Wells, Jermaine O'Neal, Stacey Augmon
The Malice in the Palace Pacers!!!!!!
Its the 2012 OKC Thunder and its not even close.
The 2018 Rockets were up 3-2 against one of the greatest assembled teams ever with the 2nd and 3rd best players in the world, until their star PG gets hurt. Rockets weren’t even close to a superteam with just 2 stars and literally was killing the league
Ryan hollins 🤣🤣🤣😂😭
The lob city clippers were top heavy. They never had that much depth outside of Jamal Crawford. And they also had inconsistencies at small forward.
- Great team? No. Very good team? Yes. Two years they had serious injuries that derailed them. BUT man, when they lost against Houston when the bench scrubs of Josh Smith-and-company went off, that's NO EXCUSE to lose. That's why they aren't a great team.
Nah, people are forgetting the Tracy McGrady and Yoa Ming Houston team. Bro, that Houston team went on a 27 game win streak. They were balling that season and blew it.
Mentioning Houston again. James Harden, Chris Paul, Clint Capela.
Malone and Stockton Jazz.
Also the Dever Nuggets with Melo, Iverson, and Marcus Camby.
Wait, why would you put Chris Paul or Jason Kidd ahead of Steve Nash. Not for nothing but Nash played the point guard position better than both of them.
That HOU team went on that win streak when Yao went down and surprised eveyone. But Tmac and Yao were both too fragile to be healthy when it counted.
@Josh Meza GP is better than Kidd and Nash, GP was a better shooter than Kidd and on Defense. Averaged 20ppg 8astpg for ten 10 seasons and was a great as MJ Defensively.
When was Nash ever better than Kidd even when he won MVP still wasn't
@@8hype Nash was definently better than Kidd.
@@SShaBazzz what year
I neva thought that team was a championship team honestly. I think now a days its too much championship or bust. To me that clippers team change the culture forever of the clippers. They paved the way for the clippers to even get a shot at getting kawhaii and paul george. This narrative that the clippers back then were contenders is false. They were just the iteration of the clippers that established the culture of the clippers
The suns made the conference finals 3 times against Dallas San Antonio and the Lakers don't knock my dude Steve Nash they just couldn't get there
They also won 55+ games multiple times and still didn’t.
@Pusha Tee You think they would have beaten Ewing's Knicks?
@Pusha Tee He was awesome. I was a Bulls fan, getting through New York was rough. Woulda been a good series.
The John Stockton/Karl Malone Utah Jazz teams are probably the best teams to never win a championship.
Payton, Detlef, Kemp Supersonics
Utah from 97 and 98.
hakeem, barkley, and drexler rockets
Early 2000’s kings & blazers, 90’s knicks, late 90’s jazz & 93 suns!
Leon was dope in this! I didn't realize how old he is and how much bball knowledge he has.
Blazers with Drexler, Porter, Kersey, Robinson, and Duckworth.
Webber's Kings
2016 warriors
2016 OKC Thunder
The 92' and 97' NY Knicks
Rob Parker is right about the NBA being the WWE because they exclude the Bad Boys Pistons.
This show needs to be on tv daily or a youtube video podcast
The 88 pistons also got robbed
Yes the 88 pistions did get robbed
Honorable mention, that talented Bucks team, Cassell, Glenn Robinson and Ray Allen
The Utah Jazz '97, '98. Stockton, Malone, Hornacek, Russell, Ostertag.
How did I forget the knicks or those Doc J 76ers teams before the won
I still don't know why Matt Barnes mentioned Ryan Hollins. He wasn't with my Clippers that long. Doesn't mean they didn't have talent like CP3, Blake, DJ, JJ, and Jamal.
He's giving Ryan some love cuz they both played at UCLA. Got to be.
@@bryanroberts5409 Or maybe he appreciates greatness?
@@artvandelayRFC Really?
Shaq and penny magic
And if they stayed together, that team would've been even better. Lots of similarities between the Shaq/Penny Magic and KD/RW Thunder.
Thank you
You can't say a team has to make it to the championship to be considered one of the greatest to never win a title.. Sometimes the fix is just in.. The NBA has their own plans.. The 2000s kings got screwed by the Lakers, the Nash led suns couldn't stop the NBAs spurs dynasty. Those magic teams with Dwight were really good too.
Okc Thunder when they had Durant, Harden, and Westbrook
There are dozens of teams over them. They never even made a conference finals. Smh
The best team to never win a championship is the 1976-1977 Philadelphia 76ers go look up there roster..
The 84-85 team was even better though!
CWEBB KINGS and NASH SUNS and basically any team that Jordan beat in the Finals (StocktoMalone Jazz, Kemp Sonics, Barkley Suns, Clyde Blazers)
Shaq and penny Orlando magic... That whole squad was loaded
The 2016 Thunder are definitely near the top of the list, if not at the very top. Also the 2018 Rockets.
You rOB pARKER is the realist analyst in the game brutally honest. This is why it has taken him so long to go primetime.
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kings period no debate
That Phoniex team with Barkley, Kevin Johnson, Dan Marle, Cedric Ceballos, and Tom chambers was very good. The Phoenix team in 2005 was really good also but that Sacramento team in the early 2000's that got robbed against the Lakers definitely would have to top my list.
2017 spurs (kawhi) got injured in west finals !
The New York Knicks had 2 great squads with Ewing at the core. The early 90's with John Starks and Charles Oakley and the late 90's with Sprewell and Allan Houston
Nah the Clippers are 1 of the main teams to fall short, they’re just not at the top of the list like you guys said. Might be 1 of the most disappointing tho.
David Ruffin!
Ali Muhammad it ain’t nothing without David Ruffin
What about the lakers with karl malone and gary payton? They still have shaq, kobe, Rick fox, etc
My Bulls when we had to go against the Heat With Rose Butler all them Guys if we didn’t have to go through Miami I think we could have got one Them years there was no teams we couldn’t beat
The 2010 Chicago Bulls are the greatest.
2016 Warriors, 2016 Thunder, 2018 Rockets, 1998 Jazz, 2012 Thunder. None of them would lose to the Clippers. They were almost upset by the 2014 Warriors who were a 6 seed!
How 'bout the 04-05 Pistons? Not as "talented" as some of the other teams, but defending champs that obliterated the Lakers the previous year, then in '05 had to win a game 7 IN MIAMI against the team with the best record then lost in 7 to an EXCELLENT Spurs team and had a lead in the 2nd half of that game. Not the best ever not to win, but one I say just deserving of being mentioned here