@@aro245 Bron played in a cupcake era . Bron is King of Flops. King of Missed Clutch shots in the finals when the game is on the line. Bron is the king of Losing in the finals
@@KrispyKleenex365 no no no little betty boo. jordan is the goat of basketball actors. jordan is the biggest actor biggest baby cry and biggest flopper in nba history. theres a video with jordan where he’s flops. the clip shows the true top tier acting job jordan use to pull. how dare a jordan fan girls bring up flopping. 😂🫵🏼😂
I grew up watching Michael Jordan and became a fan of the NBA because of him and when he retired my love for the NBA was never the same. Still to this day folks are mesmerized when they are in his presence. He will forever be the 🐐 in my eyes.
As a european teenager, playing soccer n being obsess with it.. the first time I watch MJ played v the mighty Pistons I was shocked by the beauty of MJ's mesmerizing moves The day after , I went in a playground to learn to play I knew about Magic, Bird n the great Kareem Abdul thanks to my Bruce Lee fascination 😮
@@shawndun2119 😂😂. Go to skool kid. Your brain isn’t fully developed yet!!! He took a break like Lebron does every season. How bigger the break how bigger the goat!!
I’m a long time Celtics fan and over the years I’ve seen the best of both Jordan and Lebron. They’re two of the greatest players ever, but I don’t recall opposing teams and fans having the same sort of awe for Lebron that we all had for Jordan. If you were a fan when Jordan played and don’t just rely on statistics you’d know what I mean. After all, it was Jordan who raised the profile and popularity of the NBA in the entire world. If there were two competing teams with comparable levels of talent, and I had to pick one player to make a difference, I would pick Michael Jordan every time, without question!
Saw a stat that said when Jordan made that gw shot against the cavs, it was the only true gw shot ever in post season history. Well until Leonard did it when he played in Toronto. Meaning if he missed the Bulls go home, if he made it they win. That game wasn't even televised in real time
Chris you right, the unique combination of individual success and team success is MJ, I would also add that he truly did make his teammates better players by his ruthless demand for mental toughness. Tired of hearing about how LeBron makes his teammates better when all they really do is take tough shots and get blamed for losses.
*edit* (MJ called and gave the green light for filming to being at this point. OBVIOUSLY IT CAME OUT IN 2020. HELLO!!!!!!))))) That’s why he released the last dance the day of LeBron’s championship parade when he beat Golden State? He waited 20 years for that exact date because he didn’t care about being the goat lol. No way
Never .. the media is pushing LeBron that's the problem. He's on a team with a losing record and he still get majority of coverage. Milwaukee has a squad and Giannis is in MVP mode
Kobe got booed in his hometown of Philly rob knows this as he was one to point this out when Kobe was alive. Stop with this weirdness, Floyd may weather gets booed
@@beanstocks5782 You could be right. That's how it was before MJ came alone. Think about anytime someone brings up an old player, people always say "I didn't see him play so IDK" opinions are like a-holes everyone has one.
Jordan really only played 13 seasons because in his second year, he missed almost the entire season due to a foot injury, and when he came back to retirement to play the last 17 games of the season. If you want to count them, fine. It does not change the fact that he achieved more than any player in history in less seasons. Lebron has played five more seasons than MJ and still trails him 400 plus steals which debunks the myth that Lebron is a better all around player. And Oh, he can palm the ball. Jordan has an NCAA title, 2 Slam dunk titles, 3 steals title, 1 Defensive player of the year title, 2 Three peats. Lebron has none of those. Good luck convincing people that Lebron has a better resume.
The thing with Jordan is that, when he got to the top, he never stepped down. You didn't see him get taken down apart from '94-95 when he came back for 17 games. We never really got to see him fall. He never had a 2008 Finals Kobe moment, or a 2011 Finals LeBron moment. He was the epitome of perfection when he reached the NBA Finals. I always said that if the Spurs had taken down Jordan and Bulls in 1999, his legacy would've been way worse. But the fact that he is 6-0 in the NBA Finals combined with the gaudy numbers, it's almost impossible to knock him off the GOAT status.
I always wonder if that 98-99 season did happen with Chicago Bulls. Pippen wouldn't went to Houston , Rodamn wouldn't bounced around. But there would have been some tweaks in the roster maybe getting some younger players. The New York Knicks went to the Finals that year 8th seed , so the Bulls definitely would have been to 1999 Finals
@@jeffmiles4356he pretty much did. I watched those games on WGN and Mike would do something amazing (similar to Steph) EVERY game! You don’t know wtf you’re talking about..
@@cameronwilliams1594 then explain why he was taking the most shots in the 80s with no rings, was he not a closer then? Or was he only a closer 6 times in 15 seasons? You Jordan heads have the dumbest logics 😂
Yes to me he’s always been on the same level as Babe Ruth in legend status. A very select people get in that group. You have to change society and just look so much better than everyone else.
1:00 As a Millennial, I don't agree. Why do we get blamed for everything?? 🤣🤣 If I had to make an unscientific guess based on friends, colleagues and media members in my age group, I still think MJ would probably be the choice for GOAT amongst 60-70% of us. I was about 5 during the first 3 peat and almost a teenager during the Last Dance. So I have solid childhood memories of MJ's greatness. Which was only reaffirmed and immortalized as a teen and young adult through TH-cam, espn, etc. Now you want to talk Lebron groupies...Shannon and Nick Wright aren't millennials and they stomp harder for Lebron than Gen Z! Lol.
@@georgeprchal3924 lol. Pretty much for older generations that is the case. They don't recognize that there are other generational groups and that each group has a wildy different combination of socioeconomic, political and cultural variables that shapes our upbringing.
Michael Jordan is widely known as the game's greatest player-and for good reason. "MJ" accomplished everything possible in the game, piling up on the stats and awards. On the game's biggest stage-the NBA Finals-Jordan went a perfect 6-for-6, also sweeping Finals MVP in his appearances. The most iconic NBA player the game will ever see, Michael Jordan is legendary. From his sneakers and his Jumpman Jordan logo, to his high-rising vertical, His Airness is like no other. The 6x NBA champion led a Bulls dynasty that will go down in history as one of the greatest dynasties in American sports Jordan transformed the style and substance of basketball, expanding the scope and meaning of athletic achievement. We still see his influence in ways big and small: kids wagging their tongues; the raging popularity plof basketball in China; post-up players leaning backward into defenders before making their move.!!! There is no debate on Jordan been the greatest who stepped on the NBA court and who ever denies it there is only one word for those people👉🏼 denialists
Micheal Jordan is soo vastly ahead of LeBron James when it comes to greatest players & the goat,,I was alive & witnessed the MJ phenom that never "Ever Stopped"!!! Still till this very day if u wonder into the city of Chicago & speak anything foul about MJ u will have to fight your way off the plane & planet if possible lol !! Micheal Jordan was & still is the most loved & feared basketball athlete in sports history !!! Noo one believes that of LeBron James !!!!
Retired long time but his achievements, brand name and shoes still hold as the holy grail of basketball to old and young fans. Not just GOAT but also Black Jesus! 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
When LeBron knew he couldn't catch MJ he along with espn tried to change the narrative by putting individual achievements ahead of team titles. Ruining the game just might be Lebrons greatest achievement.
@@Zayk74u False, Rob G hates his guts. If you've listened to every show he said Lebron is not clutch and he team hops like most Bron haters say. He's also a devout Kobe fan and we all know Kobe fanatics are threatened by Lebron being in the GOAT conversation.
Right?! Such a crazy argument to make, and I hear LeBron fans make it all of the time. “Yeah, MJ has more titles, but LeBron has been to more finals than MJ!” I mean, the first time I heard someone make that argument in defense of LeBron being the goat, I thought they were joking. Nope! They actually mean it, which is insane.
MJ, accomplished everything in really 10-11 years, because he was injured for over 60 games in the 80’s and played like 20 games when he returned in 95, but full seasons 10
@@callies300 Im old school so maybe that is why I relate to their opinions. I also like their segments on baseball, which sport shows rarely cover these days.
@@Joseph-lz5er completely understand I agree with some of their points I just think they would get more interesting with a younger caster added. You’re 100% right on baseball though it’s not covered nearly as much..
I gotta say first off that MJ is the Goat hands down !! There is no way in hell that the excitement that LeBron has generated in all his years ever equals or surpasses Jordan !! Example,,when MJ jumped anywhere on the court,, literally the whole World stopped & rose to there feet in amazement !!! I was there to witness it all & it's simply just not the same with LeBron in a comparison on many levels !!
Does these dude know that most millennials are in their 40's or nearing 40? Lots of us watched Jordan, especially in the 90's and LeBron. I'm 36 and am a millennial and I consider Jordan the GOAT
Facts I’m 35 and jordan was flawless and Kobe mimicked all his moves. Lebron is a jack of all trades his best attribute is athleticism but he’s not as skilled as the top guys💪🏿
Happy Birthday to the "Goat & Dark Lord" of basketball !! MJ is something that u simply had to see to believe & even if u seen him live & direct u would possibly question yourself weather this guy was even a full human being !?!? Besides all that he literally changed the whole entire style & swag in which B-Ball is played still till this day !!! MJ is the reason B-Ball is what it is 2date !!!!!!!!!
But MJ would never changed team. After his first retirement he could chose another team, but he didn't. He only want to play with team that he really enjoyed to play.
MJ also had an office that drafted and assembled a genuine support cast around him that was still a deep playoff team when he was gone versus those early Cavs teams that immediately fell from 60 wins to less than 20 the next season. If we’re real MJ never needed to consider a super team because he had a competent office who brought a cast to him versus LeBron who felt like he needed to leave. They both won with talent as every team does
Technically it's 6 rings in 11 seasons if you take away the injury season 2, coming out of first retirement season 10 and the last 2 seasons with the Wizards when he played with injuries and out of basketball shape for 3 years, all for the love of the game.
😂 he didn’t play in Washington for the love of the game he played cause the owner promised he’d sell him the team and never did cause no one liked Jordan in the organization
The reason the league changed the rules and made it easy for players is they could not find the next Michael Jordan who destroyed the toughest of defenders. The NBA had to make the league exciting and make the game easy .
That's not true in the 80s 90s teens with scoring like 80 points because they let you play defense then they wanted this going to go up it had nothing to do with Jordan
@@mauricetaylor9974 they created the fragrant foul for Jordan .90were soft and now you have load management .Average48.5 minutes a game for a season. Wonder what Wilt would think about that .thats how Jordan changed the game
I’m 34 Considered in the millennial range we’re getting older by the way don’t forget that. It’s gen Z you gotta worry about 😂. But Mj will always be the goat I got to see MJs last two seasons with the bulls live nothing will ever change my mind
MJ in this day & age is actually the pappy of the whole NBA culture 2 date !!! He single handedly started all that is witnessed in this modern days NBA !! LeBron has never been known for that type of wave or any type of wave period !! That's the separation apart from the chips that MJ will always be accredited to,,plus Jordans the shoe brand is already signed sealed & delivered as one of the most iconic sports shoes in history !!!
@@gew2027 Micheal Jordan was the Greatest about ripping the oops heads off & shitting down their necks !! Star after Star,,team after team,,,he was like a professional Hitman seriously !! Once u & your team was on his list & in his way he simply would kill the whole squad !!
@@trentstanley5475 Wilt said he would average60.points a game in Jordan's era .Wilt said if Jordan drove the lane with that pretty stuff he would put him on his butt .thats how the game was played.Zeke got knock to the floor all the time he said but he didn't cry. Jordan come alone and in91 we get the fragrant foul just for Jordan could dunk .He won all those rings in the90s.he had nothing coming in the80s
A bad Dallas team? Yo, the disrespect the 2011 Mavs get is unbelievable. That was the greatest playoff run in NBA history and it’s not even debatable. Dirk was an absolute Monster!!!
It’s historic because Dirk beat a Superteam in the HEATLES as an underdog! MJ never lost to an underdog…. EVER! And MJ never got outplayed by a bench player like Jason Terry‼️ Miami the Superteam that Wade&Lebron built lost 2 finals that they were favored in!
I'll put it like this,,when your a champion of any other sports & u & your team are hella good,,the comparison to u & your team may be good but not Great,,,& Micheal Jordan was Great every single time he stepped onto the floor win or lose !! Jordan simply captivated regardless of the final out come !!! His basketball play at any given time was mesmerizing to watch !!! LeBron even in his prime wasn't that at all !!!! If anything he was just a freight train with skills at best.
MJ is the GOAT. Lebron was caught purchasing ped's in 2013 and took advantage of rules that made it easier to score. Jordan did it as an all natural athlete in an era when it was harder to score.
He means no defensive 3 sec rule and lane packed with real centers and power forwards. LeBron drives against small forwards and light power forwards. If he played in Jordan's era no way he had 30 ppg in 38 yrs of age
No argument, the best to ever do it. the greatest thing he ever done is made the game of basketball into an artform, like bob coasas said, lots of player has strength, lots of them has quickness,but only MJ had the highest level of artistry.
For changing the whole demographic on basketball let alone all the chips,,let alone that he learned to let noo one or franchise stop him in his relentless pursuit of Greatness without ever begin fazed about whatever may lay in the minds of doubters & he MJ also played in a harder time rule wise in basketball !!! MIC DROP.
@@poppsosa6289 I just dont see how you get there. Its not even statistically correct let alone if you watched them play, its pretty obvious via eyesight MJ was better but do you.
The word greatness has a definition. Michael fits that definition better, pertaining to basketball, then anyone else ever has. He made basketball truly go worldwide. He made it the most viewed sport in America for a time. He made Nike a multi-billion dollar company and made himself a multi-billionaire just on a freaking shoe deal.... Oh and by the way he was undefeated 6 and 0 in the finals never having to plan a game 7.(shout out to Reggie Miller)
MJ was head and shoulders above every1 of his generation. And was a massive winner. Just awesome. And was sooo popular. Still is. But, I still watch games from the 90's with mates and the league wasn't that great if you watch today's generation.
90's games are very watchable, very few people watch games of the current generation. Saying the league wasn't that great is insane, the league had many highly ranked hall of famers that would dominate in any era.
Air Jordan on another level as an athlete. Athletes I would pay to see in their prime; Muhammad Ali, Jordan, Peyton Manning Usain Bolt, Barry Sanders, Mike Tyson.
I understand this was for Jordan’s birthday but these guys always got to put in our faces Jordan is the goat. Whatever happened to just respect others point of view?
I grew up in the Jordan era 1980-now..Watched Jordan from college to retirement..I've watched LeBron throughout his whole career too. I can't come up with consensus..So I did this, I ask myself if my life depended on 1 game & I had pick between MJ & LJ who would I pick? I thought about & I came away with Jordan. So on a scale of 100 its..Jordan 100, LeBron 99.8-9!
@@gew2027 how can anyone respect a player who played only for stats? Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, Magic, Bird, Kareem, Shaq and Duncan all played to win. Meanwhile, Wilt’s scoring dropped in the playoffs and he was more interested in breaking regular season records.
@@heels4lifx The next time you bring up these players stats make you put Chamberlain next to theirs. When you do these players look like a bunch of Midgets
@@gew2027 but I bring up stats only in the right context. Stats are not the only argument. Lebron has the best all around stats and won more then Wilt. Jordan had the best scoring stats and won significantly more then Wilt. Shaq played better competition then Wilt. It can’t just be stats because wilts stats actually went down in the playoffs.
I always saw it as Jordan played 13 seasons with Bulls. Mind blown at the fact that it really was only 11. Because the 17 games back in the second season, and the 20 or so in 95 absolutely cannot count. 🤯. Die hard MJ fan, you are 100% right, 6 chips in technically 11 seasons.
Michael jordan is like poetry in motion.He was just that damn good.The older ones hate jordan cuz he stopped greats getting a ring.Theres no way around it.
You need to live outside of America and see his global impact. Everyone wanted to be like Mike around the world but realises soon that there will be one Michael Jordan. His popularity is beyond a rock star or movie star. I'm old enough to watch him play basketball. No other player comes close. Not even LeBron.
This is what I've been saying about Chris's biased agenda. He always used to claim to be a fan of Lebron. Well, the brutha just told on himself. Listen to what he said, quote, I "had" a good relationship with LeBron, past tense, not I "have" a good relationship with LeBron. I've been saying forever since LeBron stopped being interviewed and communicating with Chris, his glorification of LeBron has noticeably changed. Similar to Stephen A Smith, who, early in Lebron's career, had a good relationship with Lebron until he stopped giving him interviews. Chris used to defend LeBron all the time, so much that people used to call Chris a fanboy or Bronsexual, but he no longer has the same energy when Rob P or Bron hater Rob G tries to tear down Lebron on the regular. I knew I wasn't imagining shyt. Chris confirmed it when he said I "had"; translation, I used to have a good relationship with Lebron. Thank you Chris, for finally admitting the obvious.
I still remember when Chris claimed LeBron was the second greatest drunker of all time behind Vince Carter. This was during LeBron's third year in the league. That's how much of a fan Broussard was of LeBron.
And creative ball handlers have always been in the league. Jason Williams, Isaiah Thomas, Tim hardaway, Allen Iverson, Jamal Crawford like bro the league has always had talent
Look at any poll you want online or here on YT that has any significance, Jordan Wins comfortably. And most of the people voting are probably younger than 30. Jordan will always be viewed as the 🐐 until someone else comes along who was actually better...
Micheal Jeffrey Jordan is without a doubt the greatest basketball player that I've ever seen with my own eyes & I've NEVER seen anyone in 2days NBA that could ever come close to being his equal PERIOD !!!
Labron's finals record will always come back to haunt any goat argument. Those 6 loses are devestating! Also Labron has never played on a team that would be considered an all time NBA greatest team.
@@georgeprchal3924 I think the 15 cavs team was better. They were more balanced, with better shooting and a better defense. Those Cavs teams were ridiculously underrated thanks to GSW breaking the regular season record and then adding Durant.
@@georgeprchal3924 You seriously believe that the 2013 Miami Heat team is remembered as one of the greatest teams in NBA history? That's funny. Try googling "NBA's all time greatest teams" and you won't find that team mentioned. What you will usually find is 3 of those Jordan Bulls teams, along with some Larry Bird and Bill Russell Celtics, Magic Johnson and Wilt Chamberlin Lakers, Julius Erving and Moses Malone 76ers, and Steph Curry Golden St teams. Not a single mention of the 2013 Miami Heat on any of these lists.
I got news for you. None of MJ’s Bulls teams are top 10 teams of all time. Watered down era with only 2 “stars” per team and barely any good role players. I would take a lot of historic teams to crush any of Jordan’s 90’s Bulls teams.
Living in puerto rico and later in texas, mj was all that I watched. Would’ve loved to see him play in the finals against the houston rockets. That would’ve been an awesome finals. I think mj did more with lesser teams compared to the loaded lebron teams. Pippen was the only allstar and including coach jackson, they became great and were not traded in to become great except for rodman
Lebron fans want to cry about Jordan playing on “stacked” teams with a few players who made the all star (pippen, Rodman, grant, armstong, Oakley) when lebron played with ilgauskas, mo Williams, Jamison, Wade, Bosh, ray Allen, kyrie, k love, d rose, isiah Thomas, Deron Williams, Dwight Howard, rondo, AD, melo, Westbrook, rashad Lewis, and shaq. Then he still lost more than he won in the big games 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Jordan is the 🐐
Here's a point I never hear brought up: people say, "Lebron faced way tougher competition in the Finals than MJ did!". Let's break this down: '91 Finals MJ beats a 31 year old Magic, who was a little past his prime, but was still the 2nd best player in the league, and was 2nd in MVP that season. '92 Finals MJ beats Clyde in the best season of Clyde's career and was 2nd in MVP. '93 MJ beats Barkley in his MVP season AND in Kevin Johnson's prime. '96 MJ beats Payton and Kemp, both in the middle of their primes, and Payton won DPOY that season. '97 MJ beats Malone who won MVP that year. '98 MJ beats Malone again in the season sandwiched between Malone's two MVP's ('97 & '99). Lebron also faced players in the Finals who were in their primes: Warriors and Spurs in '07. If you look at those middle years ('11-'14), not a single star Lebron faced in the Finals was in their prime: '11 Dirk was still a top 10 player, but definitely 2 years past his prime; '12 KD, Russ and Harden were all 22-23 years old. All 2 years before their primes. '13 Duncan was waaaaaaay past his prime, Ginobili was a few years past his prime, Parker was the closest to it, but was past it and Kawhi was 3 years from his prime. Same thing in '14. MJ beat his competition in the Finals when they were at their peak or very close to it. Context matters.
Imo newer generations are not crediting winning enough as it should be and not factoring in that winning and loosing is the focal point of what truly makes someone the goat. Not all these crazy scoring and assist titles. Winning and loosing counts to at least 80% of someone's career.thats why Michael jordan represents the true meaning of the goat of the nba. So when you say 6-0, you can literally just shut everyone up with that. I don't think people understand what that truly means and why that accomplishment instantly makes him the goat forget all the accolades. It's more to it them just saying 6-0, it's the fact he never loss when it mattered most.
MJ is still celebrated and always will be. 🐐
Forever 🐐
behind lebron and kareem.
jordan played in a crackheaded era. its facts.
jordan is trash 🗑️ NOT tha goat , dat was marketing , nike , david stern I saw it live youse cant trick me
@@aro245 Bron played in a cupcake era . Bron is King of Flops. King of Missed Clutch shots in the finals when the game is on the line. Bron is the king of Losing in the finals
@@KrispyKleenex365
no no no little betty boo.
jordan is the goat of basketball actors.
jordan is the biggest actor biggest baby cry and biggest flopper in nba history.
theres a video with jordan where he’s flops. the clip shows the true top tier acting job jordan use to pull.
how dare a jordan fan girls bring up flopping.
😂🫵🏼😂
I grew up watching Michael Jordan and became a fan of the NBA because of him and when he retired my love for the NBA was never the same. Still to this day folks are mesmerized when they are in his presence. He will forever be the 🐐 in my eyes.
Totally agree. Well said.
Same
kobe the goat
@@angel-ij4xv he can definitely be your 🐐 and I would be ok with that, he was great.
As a european teenager, playing soccer n being obsess with it..
the first time I watch MJ played v the mighty Pistons
I was shocked by the beauty of MJ's mesmerizing moves
The day after , I went in a playground to learn to play
I knew about Magic, Bird n the great Kareem Abdul thanks to my Bruce Lee fascination 😮
MJ is the blueprint of basketball!!!!
Stop this nonsense Jordan quit the game TWICE and don't hold any records
@@shawndun2119 😂😂. Go to skool kid. Your brain isn’t fully developed yet!!! He took a break like Lebron does every season. How bigger the break how bigger the goat!!
@@shawndun2119 All time PPG leader and most scoring titles.
@@miracleosaslouis5588 now look up Chamberlain stats
@@gew2027 WHO did chamberlain put does numbers up against apart from Russell?
MJ 🐐
I’m a long time Celtics fan and over the years I’ve seen the best of both Jordan and Lebron.
They’re two of the greatest players ever, but I don’t recall opposing teams and fans having the same sort of awe for Lebron that we all had for Jordan.
If you were a fan when Jordan played and don’t just rely on statistics you’d know what I mean.
After all, it was Jordan who raised the profile and popularity of the NBA in the entire world.
If there were two competing teams with comparable levels of talent, and I had to pick one player to make a difference, I would pick Michael Jordan every time, without question!
LeBron ain't greater or better than Kareem or magic Johnson or bill Russell
So because lebron is friendly with everybody that means he's not the goat? Nothing t to do with his play on the court?
This is the best premise ever
It was the Jordan shoes....
@@dionpace22 friendly with everyone?
I died a little when Chris said Jordan had the league locked down lol. As a Cavs fan that was victimized by MJ constantly, I felt that.
Exactly the reason my dad HATED MJ. Respected him as a Great one but could not stand him bc what he had always done to us lol
Price ,hot rod,Daughtry, Harper, them CAVS teams were very good
Same as a knicks fan
Saw a stat that said when Jordan made that gw shot against the cavs, it was the only true gw shot ever in post season history. Well until Leonard did it when he played in Toronto.
Meaning if he missed the Bulls go home, if he made it they win.
That game wasn't even televised in real time
@@MikeBNumba6 different for Kawhi. If Leonard missed that shot, overtime in game 7. If MJ missed that shot, the Bulls would have lost that series.
As long as there's video out there, Michael Jordan will always be viewed as the goat. The eyes..they never lie!
Chris you right, the unique combination of individual success and team success is MJ, I would also add that he truly did make his teammates better players by his ruthless demand for mental toughness. Tired of hearing about how LeBron makes his teammates better when all they really do is take tough shots and get blamed for losses.
MJ simply didn't care about being the best, just wanted to win as many as he can. that's what made him the legend.
Cap all he wanted to do was be better than Everybody else Lmao yall mfs just say anything.
You right. He was young and thirsty and just wanted to win man.
@@dionshaewishum4179 He didn't beat the Celtics or the Pistons in their prime. Kareem has the same amount of rings and regular season mvps.
@@alcrawford4160
Kareem had a top 5 player of all time in Magic 🤣
Jordan had Pippen 🤣🤣
*edit* (MJ called and gave the green light for filming to being at this point. OBVIOUSLY IT CAME OUT IN 2020. HELLO!!!!!!))))) That’s why he released the last dance the day of LeBron’s championship parade when he beat Golden State? He waited 20 years for that exact date because he didn’t care about being the goat lol. No way
MJ would never get booed at the Super Bowl. GOAT.
Never .. the media is pushing LeBron that's the problem. He's on a team with a losing record and he still get majority of coverage. Milwaukee has a squad and Giannis is in MVP mode
Kobe got booed in his hometown of Philly rob knows this as he was one to point this out when Kobe was alive. Stop with this weirdness, Floyd may weather gets booed
Seriously NEVER.
They only booed Lebron because they were pissed that his passing Kareem in scoring STOLE attention away from the week-long build-up to the SuperBowl.
@@r.brown0294 media is pushing for lebron hate and it's disgusting
MJ a million years from now will still be the greatest basketball player of all time and athletes of all time
He will be forgotten in 20 years Lebron will replace him
@@beanstocks5782 You could be right. That's how it was before MJ came alone. Think about anytime someone brings up an old player, people always say "I didn't see him play so IDK" opinions are like a-holes everyone has one.
Without a doubt 💯
He couldn’t win 1 game against Larry Bird in the playoffs and has the worst 3 point contest of all time.
Won 0 championships in the 80s or 2000s but apparently never lost??
Jordan really only played 13 seasons because in his second year, he missed almost the entire season due to a foot injury, and when he came back to retirement to play the last 17 games of the season. If you want to count them, fine. It does not change the fact that he achieved more than any player in history in less seasons. Lebron has played five more seasons than MJ and still trails him 400 plus steals which debunks the myth that Lebron is a better all around player. And Oh, he can palm the ball.
Jordan has an NCAA title, 2 Slam dunk titles, 3 steals title, 1 Defensive player of the year title, 2 Three peats. Lebron has none of those. Good luck convincing people that Lebron has a better resume.
He didn’t achieve more than bill russell or Kareem in the same time period
@@delonteharris8881 What titles do they have that Jordan doesn't have?
Slam dunk titles? Who the f*ck cares? 😆
@@onidtubes Kareem more NCAA titles, same NBA titles, more MVPs. FYI.
@@greggibson33 Jordan has those titles. I asked what title Kareem and Russell has that MJ doesn't have.
The thing with Jordan is that, when he got to the top, he never stepped down. You didn't see him get taken down apart from '94-95 when he came back for 17 games. We never really got to see him fall. He never had a 2008 Finals Kobe moment, or a 2011 Finals LeBron moment. He was the epitome of perfection when he reached the NBA Finals.
I always said that if the Spurs had taken down Jordan and Bulls in 1999, his legacy would've been way worse. But the fact that he is 6-0 in the NBA Finals combined with the gaudy numbers, it's almost impossible to knock him off the GOAT status.
I always wonder if that 98-99 season did happen with Chicago Bulls. Pippen wouldn't went to Houston , Rodamn wouldn't bounced around. But there would have been some tweaks in the roster maybe getting some younger players. The New York Knicks went to the Finals that year 8th seed , so the Bulls definitely would have been to 1999 Finals
So he was taken down! The glossing over of his failures is the most ridiculous thing ever
He was never the GOAT, just the most popular. It has been Kareem for 40 years. He isnt liked and that is the only reason he isnt recognized.
Phil Jackson, jerry Krause, Horace grant, Scottie pippen, Dennis Rodman, tony kukoc😴
@divanti rivera no one said Jordan didn't have good teams, because he obviously did.
That being said, he was the engine behind the bulls
MJ did something you’ve never seen before in every game he played in.
No he didn’t lol
@@jeffmiles4356he pretty much did. I watched those games on WGN and Mike would do something amazing (similar to Steph) EVERY game! You don’t know wtf you’re talking about..
@@jeffmiles4356 lol you'd think they were describing Dr Strange
Like take the most shots?
@@cameronwilliams1594 then explain why he was taking the most shots in the 80s with no rings, was he not a closer then? Or was he only a closer 6 times in 15 seasons? You Jordan heads have the dumbest logics 😂
MJ surpass GOAT status, Hes just simply a "Legend"
Yup when other best players of another sport is called the MJ of their sport, that truly means you were the best to ever do it
Yes to me he’s always been on the same level as Babe Ruth in legend status. A very select people get in that group. You have to change society and just look so much better than everyone else.
I'm the 23rd like...classic number. Go MJ is the 🐐
LeBron is great! But his path to championships were weak!
1:00 As a Millennial, I don't agree.
Why do we get blamed for everything?? 🤣🤣
If I had to make an unscientific guess based on friends, colleagues and media members in my age group, I still think MJ would probably be the choice for GOAT amongst 60-70% of us. I was about 5 during the first 3 peat and almost a teenager during the Last Dance. So I have solid childhood memories of MJ's greatness. Which was only reaffirmed and immortalized as a teen and young adult through TH-cam, espn, etc.
Now you want to talk Lebron groupies...Shannon and Nick Wright aren't millennials and they stomp harder for Lebron than Gen Z! Lol.
Nick is actually a Millennial, but I agree
@@Realest1ne youre right. I didn't realize until just now that he's just a year older than me.
Millennial is just a colloquial term for anyone born after 1975.
@@georgeprchal3924 That’s pretty much how older ppl always use it anyway 🤷🏾♂️😆
@@georgeprchal3924 lol. Pretty much for older generations that is the case. They don't recognize that there are other generational groups and that each group has a wildy different combination of socioeconomic, political and cultural variables that shapes our upbringing.
Michael Jordan is widely known as the game's greatest player-and for good reason. "MJ" accomplished everything possible in the game, piling up on the stats and awards. On the game's biggest stage-the NBA Finals-Jordan went a perfect 6-for-6, also sweeping Finals MVP in his appearances. The most iconic NBA player the game will ever see, Michael Jordan is legendary. From his sneakers and his Jumpman Jordan logo, to his high-rising vertical, His Airness is like no other. The 6x NBA champion led a Bulls dynasty that will go down in history as one of the greatest dynasties in American sports Jordan transformed the style and substance of basketball, expanding the scope and meaning of athletic achievement. We still see his influence in ways big and small: kids wagging their tongues; the raging popularity plof basketball in China; post-up players leaning backward into defenders before making their move.!!! There is no debate on Jordan been the greatest who stepped on the NBA court and who ever denies it there is only one word for those people👉🏼 denialists
Micheal Jordan is soo vastly ahead of LeBron James when it comes to greatest players & the goat,,I was alive & witnessed the MJ phenom that never "Ever Stopped"!!! Still till this very day if u wonder into the city of Chicago & speak anything foul about MJ u will have to fight your way off the plane & planet if possible lol !! Micheal Jordan was & still is the most loved & feared basketball athlete in sports history !!! Noo one believes that of LeBron James !!!!
How ??
Happy 60th Birthday MJ🐐RDAN
Happy Birthday to the GOAT of all sports🙏🥳No one will be, or ever will next to be beside him..💪
Uhhh Tom Brady might want to talk to you about this
MJ and Brady are both taking a back seat to the REAL Greatest Of All Time.....Muhammed Ali
@@raqsonboyd7229 Float like a butterfly sting like a bee.
@@stevendefeo8424 Id like too. But heres the thing, no one has bigger influence than the Black Jesus. Just sayin.
You must be a Republican because you'll believe anything 🤣 LeBron James is the Goat 🐐 stop this nonsense
Chris said my 80 year old grandma with dementia can see they carrying the ball😭🤣😭🤣😭🤣😭
Retired long time but his achievements, brand name and shoes still hold as the holy grail of basketball to old and young fans. Not just GOAT but also Black Jesus! 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
When LeBron knew he couldn't catch MJ he along with espn tried to change the narrative by putting individual achievements ahead of team titles.
Ruining the game just might be Lebrons greatest achievement.
20 yrs and not 1 dunk contest when all the superstars used to compete in it. Now it’s not close to entertaining
Bill Russell the GOAT
Just like they changed it when it comes to the greatest Wilt
@@kaneg.4477yeah that sure is his fault. I suppose we can blame SpyGate and 9/11 on him now too.
@@georgeprchal3924 You could but I’m talking about the game of basketball 😂😂
Y’all spoke straight facts this episode👏🏾
Why is the odd couple with rob chris and rob g the best podcast show on TH-cam ! I love these guys
Chris is cool, the two Rob's are Lebron haters. Aint got no use for media heads who hate on greatness.
@@manofaith75 LBJ haters? How exactly 🤔
@@manofaith75 rob G is actually a fan of Lebron I believe
@@Zayk74u False, Rob G hates his guts. If you've listened to every show he said Lebron is not clutch and he team hops like most Bron haters say. He's also a devout Kobe fan and we all know Kobe fanatics are threatened by Lebron being in the GOAT conversation.
All hail the real GOAT !!!!!!!!! Happy Birthday The Real #23 !!!!!!!
Happy Birthday....fan from the Philippines...my GOAT MJ
No can ever convince me that losing and participating is better then dominating and winning. Mj is the goat forever.
Right?! Such a crazy argument to make, and I hear LeBron fans make it all of the time. “Yeah, MJ has more titles, but LeBron has been to more finals than MJ!” I mean, the first time I heard someone make that argument in defense of LeBron being the goat, I thought they were joking. Nope! They actually mean it, which is insane.
The 9 other seasons?
@@dparks2856 what about the other 16 seasons ? Losing and missing the playoffs 👌🏽
@EndangeredSpecies
Bron been in the finals 10 of 19 seasons.. this season is still going
Muhammad Ali .... The REAL Greatest Of All Time lost, participated, dominated, and won
We weren’t even talking about the GOAT until Jordan came along. We loved Magic & Bird, but there were no GOAT convos.
MJ, accomplished everything in really 10-11 years, because he was injured for over 60 games in the 80’s and played like 20 games when he returned in 95, but full seasons 10
There was also the lockout (Strike) season where they only played like 50 games.
@Truth is Harsh that’s what I’m talking about, tho
@@JohnDoe-zr8pcMJ not played in that season, dude.
This is by far the best sports podcast. I love the content.
I agree I wish they had one more anchor that’s was from the younger generation to fuel a different points of view in some of these topics.
@@callies300 what's a POV that u have that differs from theirs
It used to be but now they talk about the same things every day who is the goat yes it's Jordan but damn
@@callies300 Im old school so maybe that is why I relate to their opinions. I also like their segments on baseball, which sport shows rarely cover these days.
@@Joseph-lz5er completely understand I agree with some of their points I just think they would get more interesting with a younger caster added. You’re 100% right on baseball though it’s not covered nearly as much..
Yeah I’m a millennial 😂 but wisdom will say praise the Lord Jesus for giving the gift that MJ has.
Millennials are like 40, you should know who Michael Jordan is.
I gotta say first off that MJ is the Goat hands down !! There is no way in hell that the excitement that LeBron has generated in all his years ever equals or surpasses Jordan !! Example,,when MJ jumped anywhere on the court,, literally the whole World stopped & rose to there feet in amazement !!! I was there to witness it all & it's simply just not the same with LeBron in a comparison on many levels !!
Does these dude know that most millennials are in their 40's or nearing 40? Lots of us watched Jordan, especially in the 90's and LeBron. I'm 36 and am a millennial and I consider Jordan the GOAT
I'm 38 and seen both and not a millennial I'm old school fan of both
millenials are people born between 1981 and 1996. Thats a pretty wide range, people who are 27 now are also considered millenials.
Facts I’m 35 and jordan was flawless and Kobe mimicked all his moves. Lebron is a jack of all trades his best attribute is athleticism but he’s not as skilled as the top guys💪🏿
Facts. Same & I agree that MJ is the 🐐.
Most millennials hate lebron and have Jordan as the goat. Steph is more popular than lebron amongst millennials
Happy Birthday to the "Goat & Dark Lord" of basketball !! MJ is something that u simply had to see to believe & even if u seen him live & direct u would possibly question yourself weather this guy was even a full human being !?!? Besides all that he literally changed the whole entire style & swag in which B-Ball is played still till this day !!! MJ is the reason B-Ball is what it is 2date !!!!!!!!!
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A.I before A.I
MJ stayed with ONE team his entire career and did not need to join a Super Team just to get a Chip. He just pushed himself to play better.
They played under different regulations in regards to player movement. Superstars didn't move around back then. That was intentional.
But MJ would never changed team. After his first retirement he could chose another team, but he didn't. He only want to play with team that he really enjoyed to play.
MJ also had an office that drafted and assembled a genuine support cast around him that was still a deep playoff team when he was gone versus those early Cavs teams that immediately fell from 60 wins to less than 20 the next season. If we’re real MJ never needed to consider a super team because he had a competent office who brought a cast to him versus LeBron who felt like he needed to leave. They both won with talent as every team does
You know when you're great when your story becomes legendary overtime by people.
Technically it's 6 rings in 11 seasons if you take away the injury season 2, coming out of first retirement season 10 and the last 2 seasons with the Wizards when he played with injuries and out of basketball shape for 3 years, all for the love of the game.
😂 he didn’t play in Washington for the love of the game he played cause the owner promised he’d sell him the team and never did cause no one liked Jordan in the organization
Technically my ass lol
@@phillipsosa3353 oh ok, surely you are correct
Excuses. 15 seasons
Yea and if we take Bron’s 6 Finals losses away he’s 4-0 😆 I swear MJ Stans come up with the dumbest shyt 🙄
The reason the league changed the rules and made it easy for players is they could not find the next Michael Jordan who destroyed the toughest of defenders. The NBA had to make the league exciting and make the game easy .
That's not true in the 80s 90s teens with scoring like 80 points because they let you play defense then they wanted this going to go up it had nothing to do with Jordan
@@mauricetaylor9974 they created the fragrant foul for Jordan .90were soft and now you have load management .Average48.5 minutes a game for a season. Wonder what Wilt would think about that .thats how Jordan changed the game
@@mauricetaylor9974 man I read your comment ten times and I still don’t get your point
@@gew2027 yep it sure was😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
I’m 34 Considered in the millennial range we’re getting older by the way don’t forget that. It’s gen Z you gotta worry about 😂. But Mj will always be the goat I got to see MJs last two seasons with the bulls live nothing will ever change my mind
We are the same age agreed! Most guys our age are Jordan fans or Kobe we got Micheals backend and Kobe’s whole career!
@@deandreray3500 exactly lol
Happy Birthday MJ!! The best ever!!!
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MJ in this day & age is actually the pappy of the whole NBA culture 2 date !!! He single handedly started all that is witnessed in this modern days NBA !! LeBron has never been known for that type of wave or any type of wave period !! That's the separation apart from the chips that MJ will always be accredited to,,plus Jordans the shoe brand is already signed sealed & delivered as one of the most iconic sports shoes in history !!!
Outside of selling shoes what is Jordan the greatest at
@@gew2027 Micheal Jordan was the Greatest about ripping the oops heads off & shitting down their necks !! Star after Star,,team after team,,,he was like a professional Hitman seriously !! Once u & your team was on his list & in his way he simply would kill the whole squad !!
@@trentstanley5475 Wilt said he would average60.points a game in Jordan's era .Wilt said if Jordan drove the lane with that pretty stuff he would put him on his butt .thats how the game was played.Zeke got knock to the floor all the time he said but he didn't cry. Jordan come alone and in91 we get the fragrant foul just for Jordan could dunk .He won all those rings in the90s.he had nothing coming in the80s
@@trentstanley5475except the Celtics.
A bad Dallas team? Yo, the disrespect the 2011 Mavs get is unbelievable. That was the greatest playoff run in NBA history and it’s not even debatable. Dirk was an absolute Monster!!!
You right. The Dallas team wasn’t bad. But the teams they beat were arguably more talented than Dallas. That’s why Dallas run was so impressive
Man where you been bruh? You fresh out Sir. You dont know basketball. That team got one chip....lol
It’s historic because Dirk beat a Superteam in the HEATLES as an underdog! MJ never lost to an underdog…. EVER! And MJ never got outplayed by a bench player like Jason Terry‼️ Miami the Superteam that Wade&Lebron built lost 2 finals that they were favored in!
@@ericthered1140 they got one chip, just like 07 Boston or 04 Detroit; point is, none of em were BAD teams
@@lennybeason1110 being an underdog and being a bad team are two totally different things.
@17:45 Rob G! Exactly I am glad you called that out. This goes to show how narratives change depending on who you are talking about
You’ve never heard anyone scream “LEBRON” while playing pick up basketball for a reason.
The greatest that ever put a jersey on....the original 23. MJ....🥇🏆🏀
MJ and Shaq are the most dominant players I seen . I have watched some Wilt Chamberlain stuff here recently ,and he's in the conversation .
When you have weaknesses, it takes you down a notch.
I'll put it like this,,when your a champion of any other sports & u & your team are hella good,,the comparison to u & your team may be good but not Great,,,& Micheal Jordan was Great every single time he stepped onto the floor win or lose !! Jordan simply captivated regardless of the final out come !!! His basketball play at any given time was mesmerizing to watch !!! LeBron even in his prime wasn't that at all !!!! If anything he was just a freight train with skills at best.
MJ is the GOAT. Lebron was caught purchasing ped's in 2013 and took advantage of rules that made it easier to score. Jordan did it as an all natural athlete in an era when it was harder to score.
Harder to score? How? You mean hand checking?
He means no defensive 3 sec rule and lane packed with real centers and power forwards. LeBron drives against small forwards and light power forwards. If he played in Jordan's era no way he had 30 ppg in 38 yrs of age
@@Capcutpros1286 ... If you've never played against hand checking, shut up!
No argument, the best to ever do it. the greatest thing he ever done is made the game of basketball into an artform, like bob coasas said, lots of player has strength, lots of them has quickness,but only MJ had the highest level of artistry.
MJ 🐐 then it’s everyone else on another level
For changing the whole demographic on basketball let alone all the chips,,let alone that he learned to let noo one or franchise stop him in his relentless pursuit of Greatness without ever begin fazed about whatever may lay in the minds of doubters & he MJ also played in a harder time rule wise in basketball !!! MIC DROP.
Harder time? Mostly plumbers and eléctricians after Bird and Magic got old
MJ beat guys who wouldn’t be top 20 players in todays NBA.
MJ GREATEST OF ALL TIME ⏲️ 🙌 👏 🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀
The reason MJ so loved is because always rare when spot him or see him .... and the last dance ended the goat debate
Say who u ... I don't give a f*ck what nobody says lebron is a better all around player to me watching both their careers period
The last dance proved jordan couldn’t win one series without Scottie
@@poppsosa6289 I just dont see how you get there. Its not even statistically correct let alone if you watched them play, its pretty obvious via eyesight MJ was better but do you.
@@zumptt I seen magic in the finals eating Jordan alive in game 1 of the finals...it was so bad they took Jordan off him n but pippen on em
@@poppsosa6289 to say he's a better all around that means both sides of the ball right? So MJ to me is better all around player
The word greatness has a definition. Michael fits that definition better, pertaining to basketball, then anyone else ever has.
He made basketball truly go worldwide. He made it the most viewed sport in America for a time. He made Nike a multi-billion dollar company and made himself a multi-billionaire just on a freaking shoe deal.... Oh and by the way he was undefeated 6 and 0 in the finals never having to plan a game 7.(shout out to Reggie Miller)
MJ was head and shoulders above every1 of his generation. And was a massive winner.
Just awesome.
And was sooo popular. Still is.
But, I still watch games from the 90's with mates and the league wasn't that great if you watch today's generation.
Everyone wanted to be like Mike!!!
His generation was trash
@@richwhiteman2755 kids wanted to be like mike
@@asdfghj-df8hk EVERYONE wanted to be like Mike. That's just what it was
90's games are very watchable, very few people watch games of the current generation. Saying the league wasn't that great is insane, the league had many highly ranked hall of famers that would dominate in any era.
MJ still the undisputed True goat 🐐🎂🏆👑
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If you don't praise the legends, you'll never be one. Happy bday GOAT 🐐
You Brothas are right on point!🤞🏾Much respect to this show! ✊🏾🖤
Old heads will never let it go. They will die believing Jordan is the Goat
6 for 6 in 6 with 6 Finals MVP’s! Mic Drop 🎤
And he’s 6’6”
@@Ogoad29 And his number was 23...2*3=6...
And he was called Black Jesus,..
Air Jordan on another level as an athlete. Athletes I would pay to see in their prime; Muhammad Ali, Jordan, Peyton Manning Usain Bolt, Barry Sanders, Mike Tyson.
18:25 this guy is the Wilt of calling in 💜 stats on top of stats what a call in
I understand this was for Jordan’s birthday but these guys always got to put in our faces Jordan is the goat. Whatever happened to just respect others point of view?
That’s what they get paid to do though😂😂😂😂
I grew up in the Jordan era 1980-now..Watched Jordan from college to retirement..I've watched LeBron throughout his whole career too. I can't come up with consensus..So I did this, I ask myself if my life depended on 1 game & I had pick between MJ & LJ who would I pick?
I thought about & I came away with Jordan. So on a scale of 100 its..Jordan 100, LeBron 99.8-9!
Love hearing the Wilt appreciation.
Wilt the most disrespected player in the history of basketball' just to make these weak players look good
@@gew2027 how can anyone respect a player who played only for stats? Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, Magic, Bird, Kareem, Shaq and Duncan all played to win. Meanwhile, Wilt’s scoring dropped in the playoffs and he was more interested in breaking regular season records.
@@heels4lifx The next time you bring up these players stats make you put Chamberlain next to theirs. When you do these players look like a bunch of Midgets
@@gew2027 but I bring up stats only in the right context. Stats are not the only argument. Lebron has the best all around stats and won more then Wilt. Jordan had the best scoring stats and won significantly more then Wilt. Shaq played better competition then Wilt. It can’t just be stats because wilts stats actually went down in the playoffs.
@@heels4lifx You can't bring up people stats and not Wilts. When it come to stats the record book belong to Wilt
Happy birthday to the real 🐐
I always saw it as Jordan played 13 seasons with Bulls. Mind blown at the fact that it really was only 11. Because the 17 games back in the second season, and the 20 or so in 95 absolutely cannot count. 🤯. Die hard MJ fan, you are 100% right, 6 chips in technically 11 seasons.
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Michael jordan is like poetry in motion.He was just that damn good.The older ones hate jordan cuz he stopped greats getting a ring.Theres no way around it.
You need to live outside of America and see his global impact. Everyone wanted to be like Mike around the world but realises soon that there will be one Michael Jordan.
His popularity is beyond a rock star or movie star. I'm old enough to watch him play basketball. No other player comes close. Not even LeBron.
Jordan is the Best to ever lace them up....The 90's was the best era!! and that's FACTUAL 💯
This is what I've been saying about Chris's biased agenda. He always used to claim to be a fan of Lebron. Well, the brutha just told on himself. Listen to what he said, quote, I "had" a good relationship with LeBron, past tense, not I "have" a good relationship with LeBron. I've been saying forever since LeBron stopped being interviewed and communicating with Chris, his glorification of LeBron has noticeably changed. Similar to Stephen A Smith, who, early in Lebron's career, had a good relationship with Lebron until he stopped giving him interviews. Chris used to defend LeBron all the time, so much that people used to call Chris a fanboy or Bronsexual, but he no longer has the same energy when Rob P or Bron hater Rob G tries to tear down Lebron on the regular. I knew I wasn't imagining shyt. Chris confirmed it when he said I "had"; translation, I used to have a good relationship with Lebron. Thank you Chris, for finally admitting the obvious.
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I still remember when Chris claimed LeBron was the second greatest drunker of all time behind Vince Carter.
This was during LeBron's third year in the league. That's how much of a fan Broussard was of LeBron.
Im 34, MJ is the 🐐, remember him hitting that shot over Russell in 98, I was 9 but I knew he was goat man then
Russell wouldn’t even be on a playoff rotation in todays NBA.
And creative ball handlers have always been in the league. Jason Williams, Isaiah Thomas, Tim hardaway, Allen Iverson, Jamal Crawford like bro the league has always had talent
Look at any poll you want online or here on YT that has any significance, Jordan Wins comfortably. And most of the people voting are probably younger than 30. Jordan will always be viewed as the 🐐 until someone else comes along who was actually better...
Micheal Jeffrey Jordan is without a doubt the greatest basketball player that I've ever seen with my own eyes & I've NEVER seen anyone in 2days NBA that could ever come close to being his equal PERIOD !!!
Jordan is 4th
1) Lebron 2) Kareem 3) Kobe 4) Jordan
@@Capcutpros1286 can't forget wilt
That’s just you being nostalgic. There’s plenty of players in todays NBA that would rival MJ if MJ had laced them up in todays NBA.
Greatest Athlete Of All Time
Greatest athlete of all time Chamberlain
My Goat....Kobe.. RIP
Bro had me 🤣 with the Wilton Norman Chamberlain 😂😂😂
Happy 🐐 Day 🙏🏾
NBA was way more physical in MJ era too
Labron's finals record will always come back to haunt any goat argument. Those 6 loses are devestating! Also Labron has never played on a team that would be considered an all time NBA greatest team.
'13 Heat aren't good enough for you?
@@georgeprchal3924 I think the 15 cavs team was better. They were more balanced, with better shooting and a better defense.
Those Cavs teams were ridiculously underrated thanks to GSW breaking the regular season record and then adding Durant.
@@georgeprchal3924 You seriously believe that the 2013 Miami Heat team is remembered as one of the greatest teams in NBA history? That's funny. Try googling "NBA's all time greatest teams" and you won't find that team mentioned. What you will usually find is 3 of those Jordan Bulls teams, along with some Larry Bird and Bill Russell Celtics, Magic Johnson and Wilt Chamberlin Lakers, Julius Erving and Moses Malone 76ers, and Steph Curry Golden St teams. Not a single mention of the 2013 Miami Heat on any of these lists.
I got news for you. None of MJ’s Bulls teams are top 10 teams of all time. Watered down era with only 2 “stars” per team and barely any good role players. I would take a lot of historic teams to crush any of Jordan’s 90’s Bulls teams.
@@greatray6262 yeah winning 27 straight games and a championship, what a bunch of scrubs.
Michael Jordan is by far the greatest of all time. Not even a discussion.
Living in puerto rico and later in texas, mj was all that I watched. Would’ve loved to see him play in the finals against the houston rockets. That would’ve been an awesome finals. I think mj did more with lesser teams compared to the loaded lebron teams. Pippen was the only allstar and including coach jackson, they became great and were not traded in to become great except for rodman
As usual first caller has no clue. LEFRAUD hasn't played defense in damn near a decade.
Lebron was playin defense in 2020 and 2021, especially in the bubble. Did you even watch games or just like to hate for no reason?
Jordan is The Goat and Kobe is The clone Goat.
MJ g.o.a.t.
I know of MJ. I respected his being his self
You can go back and watch all the Bulls playoff games from 1988-1998 and watch for yourself. Jordan was and still is on another level.
Lebron fans want to cry about Jordan playing on “stacked” teams with a few players who made the all star (pippen, Rodman, grant, armstong, Oakley) when lebron played with ilgauskas, mo Williams, Jamison, Wade, Bosh, ray Allen, kyrie, k love, d rose, isiah Thomas, Deron Williams, Dwight Howard, rondo, AD, melo, Westbrook, rashad Lewis, and shaq. Then he still lost more than he won in the big games 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Jordan is the 🐐
I think Wilt and MJ are the only 2 players to average 30 points per game in their careers.
And the only 2 to score 3,000 points or more in a single season
MJ the 🐐 yall lebron fan boys can cry all you want
Damn right MJ the 🐐...How do you crown yourself as goat? and say "I want my damn respect to"...And just trying to play long to stat paddin'
1:03 , you’re absolutely right. I can’t wait
Here's a point I never hear brought up: people say, "Lebron faced way tougher competition in the Finals than MJ did!". Let's break this down:
'91 Finals MJ beats a 31 year old Magic, who was a little past his prime, but was still the 2nd best player in the league, and was 2nd in MVP that season.
'92 Finals MJ beats Clyde in the best season of Clyde's career and was 2nd in MVP.
'93 MJ beats Barkley in his MVP season AND in Kevin Johnson's prime.
'96 MJ beats Payton and Kemp, both in the middle of their primes, and Payton won DPOY that season.
'97 MJ beats Malone who won MVP that year.
'98 MJ beats Malone again in the season sandwiched between Malone's two MVP's ('97 & '99).
Lebron also faced players in the Finals who were in their primes: Warriors and Spurs in '07. If you look at those middle years ('11-'14), not a single star Lebron faced in the Finals was in their prime: '11 Dirk was still a top 10 player, but definitely 2 years past his prime; '12 KD, Russ and Harden were all 22-23 years old. All 2 years before their primes. '13 Duncan was waaaaaaay past his prime, Ginobili was a few years past his prime, Parker was the closest to it, but was past it and Kawhi was 3 years from his prime. Same thing in '14.
MJ beat his competition in the Finals when they were at their peak or very close to it. Context matters.
Not millennials, but GenZ and later millennials, I was born in the 82’ I’m part of GenZ, Jordan is GOAT
Im 43 and eveybody know Mj tha Goat but hate to admit it and Im a Kobe Fan
HAPPY 6 AND 0 MIKE AIR JORDAN!TWO THREEPEATS!
Imo newer generations are not crediting winning enough as it should be and not factoring in that winning and loosing is the focal point of what truly makes someone the goat. Not all these crazy scoring and assist titles. Winning and loosing counts to at least 80% of someone's career.thats why Michael jordan represents the true meaning of the goat of the nba.
So when you say 6-0, you can literally just shut everyone up with that. I don't think people understand what that truly means and why that accomplishment instantly makes him the goat forget all the accolades. It's more to it them just saying 6-0, it's the fact he never loss when it mattered most.
You guys do a really good job all of you
Nobody mentions how incredibly and authentically humble Michael Jordan is and has always been.
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Dude was class S narcissist
Humble ??! 😂😂 hes the GOAT but why dont you think his peers speak nicely of him
@@ovo-vert2933 not was, but is