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Had the exact same experience today. Listed a car at trade price (over 10 years old and didn’t fancy retailing it) some guy came to look over it, checked all over like a retail customer, under the bonnet, service book etc and then asked for a quick test drive to check all is okay. To which I replied ermmm there’s no test drives on an a trade price car. It’s a trade price for a reason, take it or leave it. Flipping wanna be trader, didn’t even bring his trade plates as he said he didn’t think he’d need them.
James, a top tip. If the guy does contact you, you could hire a guy I use-not often-but from time to time. Their details are, ASSASSNATIONS INC, HOMICIDE LANE KILLERTON DEATHERTONSHIRE UR1 R1P Hope this helps? Alan B (Notts)
You can sell a car to a Ltd company and providing the company buyer isn’t motor trade related the consumer rights act still applies - case law on this exists for this particularly the van sales to companies etc it’s UDTD versus some freight forwarder fyi sale of goods act still applies
If you can afford the road fund license and the petrol that they love. you have got a reliable car albeit an unsophisticated one , high profile tyres that are standard fit absorb potholes very well as a result the grand vitara is very comfortable ride .for winter I had snow tyres fitted then they become unstoppable on snow
That’s what you get for being a decent upstanding human being and dealer. I would say this guy has done his homework on your channel and thought he could do a number on you. Annoying but you will have and deserve better James. A good lesson to us all thank you.
Always best to follow your gut, especially if confident it will sell to someone else quickly. Was that guy Walter Mitty? Nice Vitara but seems odd to do tyres and MOT advisories, etc, and then P/Ex it.
I sold a cheap px from our showroom for £350 years ago, to a woman who wanted a cheap run around, she left a snotty message on the answerphone the next morning, saying she was disappointed with the car, as she had found some cigarette butts in the ashtray and a scratch on the hubcap, I phoned her back and told her not too worry and to bring the car back and I would refund her money, as I was disappointed I had not retailed it for £695, She changed her attitude immediately and said she wasn't really complaining and was made up with the little car 🤣
An opportunity to weed out the time-wasters by changing how you deal with "dealers". As soon as they say they want a trade deal, just ask them to supply all their trade information first before you'll discuss a trade sale.
Do you have to be a car trader to buy trade? I thought it applied to any business to business sale? I help run a campsite and we get customers like this as well. I like to be helpful but you can't give someone an hour of your time for a £40 booking. People think running a campsite is basically free whereas realistically the margins are really tight and they only work because they are a family business and people basically work for next to nothing.
Had that happen to me years ago. Sold my decrepit 1992 Chevrolet Lumina for $150 US, put a for sale sign on it and shoved it to the curb. Guy comes by says he'll take it and I told him several times AS-IS I wouldn't even drive this down the street, it runs but beyond that couldn't tell you. He says okay I understand. Next day I get an irate phone call from this guy saying the car broke down 1400 miles away in Colorado and he wants a refund and me to pay to tow it, said he has friends who are cops. I hung up and blocked the number, never heard from him again thank god. Luckily I made him sign in triplicate a bill of sale that said AS-IS NO warranty car is for scrap, some people are not on the same planet as us...
You are too nice mate. At the point he asked about mot advisories being done I would’ve said no thanks that isn’t how it works. I know what it is like when you have put time into it and want to seal a deal though!
Glad to have retired some years ago but when I received this sort of call, my first response was always, dont the think we've done any business before have we? So whats your motor trade trading title and address, funnily enough was usually end of call !
Same in the cycle trade. People do not understand that time is money and your knowledge is valuable. After 10 years I’m starting to spot the time wasters now 😂
Been in the car trade for 40 years this year why do people think are time is free and it's the same when people say can you keep the car to the weekend for me I 100% want it and that is why I say first come first served
Probably. Back in the 90's you used to get a lot of vehicle sales on "trade terms" - which essentially meant no comeback. Some unscrupulous dealers would even leave that out until the deal was all but done, then slip it into the paperwork. The gearbox fell out 2 days later and "sorry. Trade sale. Read 'em and weep". There's a bit more to it these days ...
I buy bikes for trade use and have never approached anyone on that bassis, although I have done repeated deals with people after an innitial experience of buying from them. I have never understood why being a one off customer it makes any difference to anyone if one or both, neither of you are in the trade. If it gets mentioned it's normally to swap stories about dealing with the public, after the deal has been done.
@@youtube2kwatcher second hand there next to nothing. I sold mine on e Bay it went for 99p mk1 focus estate. Got £60 for the one that came off the mk2 focus hatchback.
oh james i am a private buyer and when i have done my homework and checked the car i do say i am serious buyer and never not bought the car like i say i am not a trader just check before i waste some ones time
The guy was a shylock, just trying to get the car on the cheap . . . The tow bar capper was just his way of trying to weasel his way out because he wasn't able to meet the trader criteria . . . Hope it sells to a lovely punter for a fair dollar !! As you say, they are popular in your neck of the woods, so it should go quick !! 👍
Thats the way it was years ago...anybody could buy from the " back lot " . on the understanding . Bought as seen., " I dont want to see it back ". Cash. ! ...and as a little earner, mecanics would bring home , sell of driveway..
You need strong nerves to be a dealer in cars for sure. There are so many pitfalls yet we all think you make a fortune out of us buyers. Anyway, thanks for the tip about Topdon and I have ordered one as I have a new car a Focus Titanium estate 150Hp diesel 2017 only done 44500 , it the miles are correct.!. Bought from a TH-cam dealer actually so I hope so.
Simple as; Retail Sale: you are buying something to get you around. Trade sale: you are buying something to attempt to make money on. Why is this hard to grasp?
I had hassle with a certain "trade buyer" in Edinburgh. As luck would have it he had been round putting car wanted leaflets on a Rover 75 diesel just down the road from me , so I phoned him , put on a thick Glasgow accent and offered him my rover for £150 if he could pick it up this afternoon. Taking the bait he zoomed over to the address he must have googled, pulling up beside the gatehouse of the Cemetery near Marchmont , we watched in hysterics as he went to the door and asked for Mr Grieve 😂 who is selling the immaculate Rover undertakers car outside. Peep peep ya fud as we went past him in the van as he rang our number repeatedly no doubt to express his disappointment 😥🎉🎉
Sounds like its not a wannabe trader but more a retail customer trying to get a car on the cheap. They had no intention of trading the car they wanted retail ready car for trade price. He was trying to con ya.
Its a shame your openess, honesty, integrity & generally being a great bloke is taken advantage of by people like this time wasting tosser James! Keep doing what you're doing mate
A time waster the ups and downs of a car dealer besides that that Suzuki Vitara what a lovely SUV and with only 88000 miles on it that will sell well at least in Australia
Whats going on with the video framing? Its not full screen like before. On the contrary though to saying this chsp has wasted your time Id put a positive spin on it and say actually its opened your eyes a bit more in how to spot these idiots........glad you didnt do the sale otherwise the guy would never hsve left you alone.
Sounds like a genuine A1 to$$er m8 and sounds like even your email wasn't that bad so he should think himself lucky you are a nice guy but you should send him a bill for your wasted time
You need to toughen up with people mate and stop giving money away as well, I'd not be knocking a grand off just cos some turkey had asked for it on tick tok.
"waaaah waaaah waaah I'm crying because this bloke that gives me free entertainment on the internet that makes my life a little bit less dull has uploaded it smaller than normal"
Stop whinging that is part of the game. 😘 🤗 I like your content, James. Except, getting free repairs is not the kind of favorable reputation for a dealer, is it? 🤔
Free repairs? He's always going on about the mechanics he uses and the bills he gets. He lost hundreds on a POS Yaris the other day by letting a mechanic have it cheap.
Had the exact same experience today. Listed a car at trade price (over 10 years old and didn’t fancy retailing it) some guy came to look over it, checked all over like a retail customer, under the bonnet, service book etc and then asked for a quick test drive to check all is okay. To which I replied ermmm there’s no test drives on an a trade price car. It’s a trade price for a reason, take it or leave it. Flipping wanna be trader, didn’t even bring his trade plates as he said he didn’t think he’d need them.
Trade plates a given
You get people like this in all industries. Absolute pain in the but 😢
Good decision to retail it, those Grand Vitaras are ultra reliable and it'll give someone yesrs of motoring. Doesn't look its age at all does it!
You have absolutely dealt with this sham of a guy correctly. Always trust your gut mate 👍
James, a top tip. If the guy does contact you, you could hire a guy I use-not often-but from time to time. Their details are,
ASSASSNATIONS INC,
HOMICIDE LANE
KILLERTON
DEATHERTONSHIRE
UR1 R1P
Hope this helps?
Alan B (Notts)
his company name must be RICHARD HEAD you did well James mate
No it was his brother PLONK EEER .😂😂😂
Apparently he specializes in cranial to rectal conversions . . .
You can sell a car to a Ltd company and providing the company buyer isn’t motor trade related the consumer rights act still applies - case law on this exists for this particularly the van sales to companies etc it’s UDTD versus some freight forwarder fyi sale of goods act still applies
Look on the bright side. You going through the correct procedure worked. Good precautions if nothing else.
True
You appear to have had a brush with Mr and Mrs Kerr's son Wayne. Unlucky.
Great decision James that looks like a motor that will fly off the lot especially with your pre sale works
It wasn't 'Man on Bike' was it? 😂
Oh great just what you don’t want. Good on you for being a stickler for proper diligence
Cheers
Sounds like a proper gonk..
If you can afford the road fund license and the petrol that they love. you have got a reliable car albeit an unsophisticated one , high profile tyres that are standard fit absorb potholes very well as a result the grand vitara is very comfortable ride .for winter I had snow tyres fitted then they become unstoppable on snow
Tyre kickers, do your head in..😅
That’s what you get for being a decent upstanding human being and dealer. I would say this guy has done his homework on your channel and thought he could do a number on you. Annoying but you will have and deserve better James. A good lesson to us all thank you.
Thanks buddy
Always best to follow your gut, especially if confident it will sell to someone else quickly. Was that guy Walter Mitty? Nice Vitara but seems odd to do tyres and MOT advisories, etc, and then P/Ex it.
I sold a cheap px from our showroom for £350 years ago, to a woman who wanted a cheap run around, she left a snotty message on the answerphone the next morning, saying she was disappointed with the car, as she had found some cigarette butts in the ashtray and a scratch on the hubcap, I phoned her back and told her not too worry and to bring the car back and I would refund her money, as I was disappointed I had not retailed it for £695, She changed her attitude immediately and said she wasn't really complaining and was made up with the little car 🤣
Another true story
well done sir you live n learn
Yes, thanks
An opportunity to weed out the time-wasters by changing how you deal with "dealers". As soon as they say they want a trade deal, just ask them to supply all their trade information first before you'll discuss a trade sale.
Do you have to be a car trader to buy trade? I thought it applied to any business to business sale?
I help run a campsite and we get customers like this as well. I like to be helpful but you can't give someone an hour of your time for a £40 booking. People think running a campsite is basically free whereas realistically the margins are really tight and they only work because they are a family business and people basically work for next to nothing.
Im glad you didn't sell that trade, prime retail stock that vitara is.
true
Well spotted James he was a waste of space
I know what I would call customers like him!
Shifting Metal pulling your chain!? 😂🇨🇦
Would not put past him
Had that happen to me years ago. Sold my decrepit 1992 Chevrolet Lumina for $150 US, put a for sale sign on it and shoved it to the curb. Guy comes by says he'll take it and I told him several times AS-IS I wouldn't even drive this down the street, it runs but beyond that couldn't tell you. He says okay I understand. Next day I get an irate phone call from this guy saying the car broke down 1400 miles away in Colorado and he wants a refund and me to pay to tow it, said he has friends who are cops. I hung up and blocked the number, never heard from him again thank god. Luckily I made him sign in triplicate a bill of sale that said AS-IS NO warranty car is for scrap, some people are not on the same planet as us...
A right pain in the back end.
You are too nice mate. At the point he asked about mot advisories being done I would’ve said no thanks that isn’t how it works. I know what it is like when you have put time into it and want to seal a deal though!
Glad to have retired some years ago but when I received this sort of call, my first response was always, dont the think we've done any business before have we? So whats your motor trade trading title and address, funnily enough was usually end of call !
I bet , be first knocking door when wiper blades goes
I’d say motorbikes attract even more dreamers…maybe not the ‘trader’ types, but in general.
Same in the cycle trade. People do not understand that time is money and your knowledge is valuable. After 10 years I’m starting to spot the time wasters now 😂
Been in the car trade for 40 years this year why do people think are time is free and it's the same when people say can you keep the car to the weekend for me I 100% want it and that is why I say first come first served
Lovely work chop. Some off these clowns 🤡 think they are the only customer and you have fF A better to do.
Very true
must be that half spanish guy setting up as a dealer juan kerr car sales
He wanted it at trade price , to drive as his personal car
True
Probably. Back in the 90's you used to get a lot of vehicle sales on "trade terms" - which essentially meant no comeback. Some unscrupulous dealers would even leave that out until the deal was all but done, then slip it into the paperwork. The gearbox fell out 2 days later and "sorry. Trade sale. Read 'em and weep".
There's a bit more to it these days ...
I buy bikes for trade use and have never approached anyone on that bassis, although I have done repeated deals with people after an innitial experience of buying from them. I have never understood why being a one off customer it makes any difference to anyone if one or both, neither of you are in the trade. If it gets mentioned it's normally to swap stories about dealing with the public, after the deal has been done.
do you still have tte jeep renegade James
yes still going strong
@@ChopsGarage Wanna sell it trade? Wink wink hahaha
£400-600 for a tow bar sounds around the standard cost - he would have to pay that whatever car he purchased.
I thought so too
it not £400-600 on every car lol i could get one new for £100 for my estate
@@youtube2kwatcher bet that's not a fitted price. They're always £300 upwards fitted!
Your regular mechainc should,nt ever charge you £ 300 / £ 400. You buy the bar...
@@youtube2kwatcher second hand there next to nothing. I sold mine on e Bay it went for 99p mk1 focus estate. Got £60 for the one that came off the mk2 focus hatchback.
"This car is not for you" comes to mind within a couple of hours . Trade would do own hpi report etc
Well, no one can afford an HPI and it's too expensive, plus those companies never advertise....
Yes they would
And this weeks "Tyre Kicker of the Week" award goes to %@~_"
lol
It’s sales full stop, idiots expecting more than 20% what’s a reasonable price, then they get snotty when you turn their offer!
I don't like tick tock I like TH-cam and good work James that's what I call a tyre kicker 😁
Cheers mate hope your well
Yes I'm looking forward to your next video 😄😄
Great story. What a 🔔🔚
Thank you 🤗
oh james i am a private buyer and when i have done my homework and checked the car i do say i am serious buyer and never not bought the car like i say i am not a trader just check before i waste some ones time
Appreciated
Was going to ask why it wasn't a retail car 🙂 Hope the time waster is reading the comments today as he is a Bell end
The guy was a shylock, just trying to get the car on the cheap . . . The tow bar capper was just his way of trying to weasel his way out because he wasn't able to meet the trader criteria . . . Hope it sells to a lovely punter for a fair dollar !! As you say, they are popular in your neck of the woods, so it should go quick !! 👍
Cheers
Thats the way it was years ago...anybody could buy from the " back lot " . on the understanding . Bought as seen., " I dont want to see it back ". Cash. ! ...and as a little earner, mecanics would bring home , sell of driveway..
Yes think few still do driveway
I dont think you did anything wrong.Very professional.
You need strong nerves to be a dealer in cars for sure. There are so many pitfalls yet we all think you make a fortune out of us buyers. Anyway, thanks for the tip about Topdon and I have ordered one as I have a new car a Focus Titanium estate 150Hp diesel 2017 only done 44500 , it the miles are correct.!. Bought from a TH-cam dealer actually so I hope so.
Well I'm sure he believes they are too as will of done online check
Simple as;
Retail Sale: you are buying something to get you around.
Trade sale: you are buying something to attempt to make money on.
Why is this hard to grasp?
When a buyer hassles you before buying i.e asking lots of questions more than normal, then they are trouble. I tend to avoid these buyers.
Good call
James you seem to attract crazy people 🤣🚗 sounds like a troll to me. or it might have been Joe winding you up 🤣🤣
Not the worst thing in the World if you have a TH-cam channel😂, it makes great content to be fair.
It's the game mate
Hello, goodbye
The picture quality is not bad for me ,might be what your watching it on 😮
No does seem to have uploaded strange size not sure why I will check it out
Dont get much change out of £400/500 on getting a towbar fitted with all the electrics mounting points and so on on any car
Yes my thoughts too
I had hassle with a certain "trade buyer" in Edinburgh.
As luck would have it he had been round putting car wanted leaflets on a Rover 75 diesel just down the road from me , so I phoned him , put on a thick Glasgow accent and offered him my rover for £150 if he could pick it up this afternoon. Taking the bait he zoomed over to the address he must have googled, pulling up beside the gatehouse of the Cemetery near Marchmont , we watched in hysterics as he went to the door and asked for Mr Grieve 😂 who is selling the immaculate Rover undertakers car outside.
Peep peep ya fud as we went past him in the van as he rang our number repeatedly no doubt to express his disappointment 😥🎉🎉
It might have been that ginger salad dodger from Berrow.....
Lok
Jumbo, the man is a picnic short of a sandwich.
Possibly lol
Never sell a trade car to a member of the public. Guarantee problems. Trade to Trade only.
He sounds like a bell end, still playing his Didgeridoo.
👌👌
Sounds like its not a wannabe trader but more a retail customer trying to get a car on the cheap. They had no intention of trading the car they wanted retail ready car for trade price. He was trying to con ya.
My tow bar cost 800 quid bmw convertible. The bloke sounds like a proper knob.
Why would a car dealer not know how to check for previous owners? That info is free. This was a private sale trying to get money off.
Exactly
Its a shame your openess, honesty, integrity & generally being a great bloke is taken advantage of by people like this time wasting tosser James!
Keep doing what you're doing mate
Thanks buddy
Ass soon as alarm bells ring walk away
A time waster the ups and downs of a car dealer besides that that Suzuki Vitara what a lovely SUV and with only 88000 miles on it that will sell well at least in Australia
Confirmation he isn't a trader.
True
Send him a bill for the the you spent being his joey, obviously he won't pay
Sounds like you had a scammer trying to rip you off.
Could be
All towbars are 400 plus, does he think it's 1978 and they're 100 quid.
Lol
@@ChopsGarage I get similar all the time bud
You should have invoiced him for your wasted time lol
Now that would be a money spinner
did he have talk like a call centre person accent .
No lol
Whats going on with the video framing? Its not full screen like before.
On the contrary though to saying this chsp has wasted your time Id put a positive spin on it and say actually its opened your eyes a bit more in how to spot these idiots........glad you didnt do the sale otherwise the guy would never hsve left you alone.
Same its smaller ain't it
Not sure have to look what happened
Always insist on the company details (& then cross reference with companies house) before you put any effort in with these type of people.
James, you were being lazy!
Sounds like some sort of scam to me.
He was trying to scam you.
Sounds like a genuine A1 to$$er m8 and sounds like even your email wasn't that bad so he should think himself lucky you are a nice guy but you should send him a bill for your wasted time
You need to toughen up with people mate and stop giving money away as well, I'd not be knocking a grand off just cos some turkey had asked for it on tick tok.
Waste of your time bothering with him at all. Can tell if someone pedantic inside first sentence.
480×320 pixels
I'll skip this one
ok
"waaaah waaaah waaah I'm crying because this bloke that gives me free entertainment on the internet that makes my life a little bit less dull has uploaded it smaller than normal"
@@robertphillips2467 🤣🤣🤣
@@robertphillips2467 yep you got it right
Rush content is not content
The visual is irrelevant to the video, it's about the story he is telling.
Stop whinging that is part of the game. 😘 🤗 I like your content, James. Except, getting free repairs is not the kind of favorable reputation for a dealer, is it? 🤔
Free repairs?
I’m struggling to understand the relevance of your comment ? Am I missing something?
Free repairs? He's always going on about the mechanics he uses and the bills he gets. He lost hundreds on a POS Yaris the other day by letting a mechanic have it cheap.
@@timlv6317 I'm not only one yet