What Happens if you Kick a BOXER?! Boxer Challenges Muay Thai

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  • One of the most fascinating studies in what happens when a boxer takes a few kicks. In this challenge match, Taiwanese boxing celebrity Nicky Pan goes to a Muay Thai gym to try his luck sparring a very good Muay Thai fighter. Let's see how many kicks this boxer can take before he inevitably slows down and his boxing ability starts looking similar to the Nak Muay's. Also, shoutout to the Muay Thai gym too for giving us this amazing case study! To anyone that knows the Muay Thai gym or Nick Pan, please let us know! 尼克星,有时间我采访一下你! Commentating are Jerry, Alex, and Adil.
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    Round 1 [0:00]
    Round 2 [2:43]
    Kick count [5:45]
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  • @FightCommentary
    @FightCommentary  ปีที่แล้ว +43

    If you guys like this commentary, make sure to follow the original channel Nicky Pan here: www.youtube.com/@nickstar8

    • @JEDIAL9
      @JEDIAL9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So, even though I know Thai Boxing or kick boxing is superior. There are ways for a boxer to defeat a kick boxer. And one of the ways is pressure fighting inside the pocket. You cannot stand outside the pocket because you'll get chopped up by the leg kicks. Inside fighting is where the boxer has the advantage. However, you would have to parry and control the elbows and knees. Despite Thai fighters having more weapons, the boxer has demonstrated better inside movement and fighting than. However, due to ego and money, it'll be hard to get an elite boxer challenge an elite kick boxer. My money would be on the Thai fighter unless the boxer has a good strategy.

    • @angelloakira
      @angelloakira ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey I'ma do another kickboxing sparring event type thing. I'll send you the vids when I do. But brotha. I saw something that might interest you. So I was on FB. And I saw an add for an Indian guru keeping some old old Indian martial art alive, I think it's called shastar vidiya guru. But guess who he really looks like move wise.
      I was like where have I seen this before ?
      THE RUSSIAN CRAZY MASTER!!! Dude they even do the head thing. It's definitely worth a look into.

    • @LORDVADER357
      @LORDVADER357 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@JEDIAL9 Boxing have huge advantage over kickboxing. Boxer can escape from low kicks. Just move away front leg and MT will miss and spin around. Then right cross and left hook.

    • @JEDIAL9
      @JEDIAL9 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LORDVADER357 So, what you're saying is a kickboxer can't evade low kicks? Your mistake is that you're blinded by kick boxing's EIGHT limb weapons compared to boxings TWO limb weapons. Kick boxing allows knees and elbows while boxing only uses their hands. Other than technique, boxing has no physical advantage over kick boxing. *TWO* weapons can't beat *EIGHT* weapons! And this is why Floyd Mayweather Jr or any retired professional boxer NEVER fights an MMA fighter by their rules!

    • @LORDVADER357
      @LORDVADER357 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JEDIAL9 I am not saying that kick boxer can't evade low kicks. I am saying that boxer can evade low kick. Boxer can punch elbows, knees etc. Punch.

  • @DanaNotWhite
    @DanaNotWhite ปีที่แล้ว +1319

    Muay Thai guy is being nice, that leg was open the entire fight but chose to box and throw a few kicks 😂

    • @ppvplug3940
      @ppvplug3940 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      Exactly. If it was 100% he’d blast a low kick and the fight is over at that point

    • @guapify2320
      @guapify2320 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ppvplug3940 It only takes 1 kick?

    • @ppvplug3940
      @ppvplug3940 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      @@guapify2320 yes, just how boxers can condition their bodies to a certain degree, you can condition your calf’s to a certain degree as well. If your legs not conditioned to take a calf kick, that thing is dead with 1 calf kick. Even in MMA, a few clean calf kicks 4-5 have a fighter moving differently. That’s how Dustin porier beat Conor the second time, Conor was too focused on boxing and Dustin kept going for calf kicks until Conor couldn’t even move on it anymore. Now imagine a guy who doesn’t even kick taking a calf kick

    • @guapify2320
      @guapify2320 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@ppvplug3940 Good point

    • @user-cn7wy7xx5k
      @user-cn7wy7xx5k ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dozens of Muay Thai fighters had made the transition to boxing and were extremely successful becoming world champions or Olympic medalist with only the 20 percent of their Muay Thai. But a boxer never won and never will win a title in Muay Thai because boxers are shitty strikers.

  • @chrisdudedurian1305
    @chrisdudedurian1305 ปีที่แล้ว +1487

    Bro that muay thai guy was outboxing the boxer because the boxer got too concerned about the kicks and let his guard down. Those thai fighters are in a league of their own. Also im not sure if u guys noticed but the second round is just boxing. U can tell immediately because they didnt have the shin guards anymore

    • @giraffeorganic
      @giraffeorganic ปีที่แล้ว +97

      The boxer needed to be the aggressive one and constantly closing his gap even if it means he might take a hit or two in the process cuz he's outranged, but he let the kick threats get into his head and played too defensively.

    • @chrisdudedurian1305
      @chrisdudedurian1305 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@giraffeorganic facts well said

    • @delanofernandes6471
      @delanofernandes6471 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And trying to block a kick with his hand💀🙏

    • @pablot-r9402
      @pablot-r9402 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      If you're not used to taking leg kicks, especially if the opponent is trained & condition to deliver devastating leg kicks to the calfs or inner / outer thighs, really...all it takes is maybe one or two solid leg kicks, and the boxer is compromised.

    • @luisdawnfinder3188
      @luisdawnfinder3188 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@giraffeorganic Pretty much. If you don't know how to deal with a particular style then there's no chance that you come out of a fight against it unscathed. You just have to maximize the damage output of your own style

  • @robwest2190
    @robwest2190 ปีที่แล้ว +382

    Doesn't seem like they are on the same level. Muay Thai guy clearly has a lot of experience and is a professional fighter. The boxer looks like a hobbyist to me, not saying he's terrible but he's clearly not on the professional level of the Muay Thai guy.

    • @mrboy9658
      @mrboy9658 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yeah , sure. You can see that 5:17 (and second round was PURE boxing round). And fun fact : you'll never see that ANY professional boxer will come to the ring with amateur muay thai fighter (i dont see stuff like that on YT at all, there's always amateur boxer vs amateur muay thai , amateur boxer vs professional muay thai , professional boxer vs professional muay thai stuff)

    • @dr_logical_b3a5t63
      @dr_logical_b3a5t63 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      ​@@mrboy9658 the mauy Thai dude had better boxing then him, he was more worthy of being called a pro boxer than the boxer, he's definitely a beginner

    • @grantbrysacz1668
      @grantbrysacz1668 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@dr_logical_b3a5t63 muay thai fighter was the better fighter overall yes but that boxer wasn’t a beginner, he def had reasonable experience based on his punches and movement still looked relaxed

    • @dr_logical_b3a5t63
      @dr_logical_b3a5t63 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@grantbrysacz1668 through out the entire session he only landed 2 good shots, other than that he was kinda terrible relatively, he's definitely not a not a big name for a reason, perhaps he just started pro, however in every scenario the experience gap is clear. And you know it's a problem when the mauy Thai guy is better at boxing than the boxer, which allows me to conclude that it is a beginner boxer who wants to learn from the muay Thai dude. It's almost on the level of a coach and a student

    • @grantbrysacz1668
      @grantbrysacz1668 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dr_logical_b3a5t63 i don’t think the boxer is actually a pro, maybe he had one fight for money and says that. but as far as the muay thai fighter, i would be willing to bet money he has experience boxing, at the very least training and sparring with experienced boxers and im sure he’s found success in muay thai

  • @02337755
    @02337755 ปีที่แล้ว +728

    My 2 cents as a Pure Boxer,
    Unfortunately when this comes up, (Boxer vs KickBoxer) instead of leaning into our strengths we forget our basics and try new weird things like "trying to catch the kick" or "going under a kick as if it was a hook" or worst one is "just take the kick and see how much it hurts".
    IF this was really a Boxer vs KickBoxer type scenario they need to rely more on their angles, Getting in and out of range, Circling, Setting up shots and REALLY Popping the Jab.

    • @colet1096
      @colet1096 ปีที่แล้ว +248

      As a Muay Thai guy who has a lot of boxers coming through the gym to spar, the range is insurmountable for someone who doesn't know how to kick or how to deal with kicks. Particularly when clinching is allowed. Your lead leg will always get kicked before your jab lands, and any combo with your hands is shut down with teep kicks. Boxing is an amazing sport, but just like Muay Thai guys get dominated in MMA if they don't train MMA, boxers get dominated in Muay Thai if they don't train Muay Thai. It's a specialization vs generalist situation.

    • @AngryGrape1337
      @AngryGrape1337 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@colet1096 That's just what I always thought. I don't know why people are coming up with these scenarios where a boxer COULD beat a kickboxer, when kickboxing has punches and kicks vs. just punches.
      It's someone who does 100% of the sport vs. someone who only does 50%, kinda like how Muay Thai, Kyokushin, Dutch kickboxing, Japanese Kickboxing, etc. are really 50% of MMA.

    • @SouthpawJoe
      @SouthpawJoe ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@colet1096 Thats a pretty good take. I love boxing. The only chance I have is my reach and hope it's longer than someone's front leg lmao

    • @02337755
      @02337755 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@colet1096 I agree the kicks should be respected but I have to disagree on two things. The part where kicks will always get there before punches, if that was the case MMA or Muay Thai guys wouldnt throw punches at all. Second (and this ties into the first) is Boxers use our legs differently. Our foot work gives us the chance to do defensive moves you cant in kickboxing. My original point was to use our strengths instead of getting mesmerized by the hands up in front and ignoring the kick. So I think we're pretty much on the same page. If you want an example, look up Nick Diaz Boxing. He states exactly what Im saying.

    • @SandaBoxing
      @SandaBoxing ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Man you think Muay Thai don't also" "Getting in and out of range, Circling, Setting up shots and REALLY Popping the Jab"? Boxer was lucky he wasn't going hard with the kicks. Just about anything that you'd do as a pure Boxer, would be a good time for getting kicked in the leg; after 1-4 good kicks w/o shinguards, you'd be at 50-60% in everything.

  • @kalebvinh
    @kalebvinh ปีที่แล้ว +126

    I've trained both boxing and kickboxing competitively. I've found that a "feeling out round" has a high likelihood of getting my lead leg smashed or my ribs crushed. If you are a boxer, apply pressure. Do not allow a superior kicker to get into a comfortable range. High guard, stalk them, corner them, flurry, body shots, and mix in some leg kicks. I've been able to out-skill "superior kickboxers" to myself because I wouldn't allow them to play their game.

    • @GawdTy
      @GawdTy ปีที่แล้ว

      I honestly don’t see how that can work unless you just completely out skilled the person. If I can use everything if a boxer tries to rush me down Ik typically you have your head tucked. Ill just turtle up clinch you and just try to knee your head off or most likely knee your ribs I don’t feel comfortable kneeing someone who’s just using hands. You honestly can’t even use all you can against a boxer because it just feels unfair.

    • @tac3523
      @tac3523 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tkd background with kickboxing here. My coach told me to stop kicking, guy then wailed on my mid section and I lit his legs up. I'm the new guy so his ego was sore

    • @force-lp3lo
      @force-lp3lo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let boxer hit on leg

    • @loganweersing1955
      @loganweersing1955 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s exactly what I was thinking too. He’d almost have moments of success but then he too hesitant to capitalize on it. Had he blocked a kick (or even ate one considering he took them fairly well) and stepped forward punching he probably would’ve done pretty decent had he not constantly paused to look for a certain shot/backed out to change his position.

    • @Technoanima
      @Technoanima ปีที่แล้ว

      This is the way. Ring goes, it's go time.

  • @hypnoticskull6342
    @hypnoticskull6342 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    Love it when boxers challenge themselves. I've always thought it would be cool if boxers beat Muay Thai fighters by using pure boxing, like the old style vs style matches

    • @lastword8783
      @lastword8783 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Theres always a punchers change but lets say you had 100 muay thai vs boxing matches and they both had similar amount of experience in their art and all else is equal, I'd say the Muay thai fighters win 85-90 out of the 100 matches. With 10 losses coming by the boxer landing a knockout punch.

    • @hypnoticskull6342
      @hypnoticskull6342 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@lastword8783
      I know that Muay Thai fighters would obviously win. Boxers don't know how to take kicks or clinch

    • @TBButtSmoothy
      @TBButtSmoothy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hypnoticskull6342 def, whole different striking league

    • @davidchung2203
      @davidchung2203 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah I miss the style versus style match 😅

    • @SomethingThatSCREAMS
      @SomethingThatSCREAMS ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@didjitalone9544 Botha was also old and toward the end of his career. His wins were still impressive.

  • @juanrodriguez-deluca8820
    @juanrodriguez-deluca8820 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    I'm a boxer who's been training mma for 6 months, I adjusted to blocking kicks quite quickly. My main issue was getting spammed with thigh kicks to my lead leg 🤣

    • @sorachii8932
      @sorachii8932 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You have to tighten up and counter or pull out your leg and counter. Never let it be free and it won't get spammed

    • @hithere4719
      @hithere4719 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Pain is ignorance leaving the body.

    • @AG-lt9ff
      @AG-lt9ff ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hithere4719 I like that 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Shadynastys
      @Shadynastys ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's that boxing stance kicking in lol

    • @lewispole1831
      @lewispole1831 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you don’t check it, give one back, never let it happen for free!!

  • @TheTonyCAcc
    @TheTonyCAcc ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The boxers name is Nick Pan
    He's a TH-camr in Taiwan
    He is famous for copying Tony Jeffries videos and got exposed recently
    His response was also quite legendary
    First apology denying it
    Second apology saying he only extracted highlights
    Third apology saying he already apologized twice so ppl should move on

  • @MobiusCoin
    @MobiusCoin ปีที่แล้ว +66

    You don't often see a lot of good striking on this channel, particularly from both combatants. Both dudes were solid. Entertaining fight.

    • @1individeo
      @1individeo ปีที่แล้ว

      I was about to say that 👌

    • @HiroIndo16
      @HiroIndo16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well they aint using kungfu so...

    • @AbbsJr
      @AbbsJr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Boxer has poor head movement and footwork
      Head movement only when punching
      And footwork and stance is literally almost non existent

    • @castavi7531
      @castavi7531 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AbbsJr he looks like he's looking out for the kicks and forgetting about them punches

    • @gambeer134
      @gambeer134 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@HiroIndo16 heh. Casual

  • @kevinlobos5519
    @kevinlobos5519 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Interesting matchup. The second round maybe was boxing only. If the muay thai dude kept kicking it would have been a very easy win.
    Imho either that muay guy trains his hands a lot in his gym or maybe he cross trains in boxing, because his boxing was crisp and outperformed the boxer for basically the entirety of the fight.
    Regarding your last question, I guess that if each kick is thrown and landed at full power (something the thai guy can do at leisure, since he knows the boxer has no response for them), that small amount of kicks might be able to take the wind out of the boxer or make his legs hurt enough so that it weakens his punches as you said.

  • @user-cn7wy7xx5k
    @user-cn7wy7xx5k ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Muay Thai fighters can develop amazing hands thanks to his Muay Thai training from a really young age, many Muay Thai fighter have better hands than most boxer, and a Muay Thai fighter can defeat boxers in boxing rules

  • @gts013
    @gts013 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Commentary failed to mention the fact that they took off their shin guards in the second round and seemed to agree to just box instead.

  • @MMZS528
    @MMZS528 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jerry! Keep making the great content! Your vids are relaxed and informative! Cheers!

  • @unholydiver1095
    @unholydiver1095 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You can see the boxer constantly on edge for the kicks. Really goes to show how important it is to train for different things. He is not used to facing against someone that kicks

  • @shadowfighter6445
    @shadowfighter6445 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was really cool.
    I was rooting for muay thai guy.
    Thank you for sharing ☺️.

  • @agouna3965
    @agouna3965 ปีที่แล้ว

    i just love how casual the commentary is, legendery😂😂

  • @danielburgess7785
    @danielburgess7785 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Second round was only boxing. The shin guards were off.

  • @damienthetexasian6827
    @damienthetexasian6827 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Muay Thai coach here.
    A judo practioner is called a judoka. A Karate fighter is a karateka. A Muay Thai fighter is called a Nak Muay. Its the champagne of kickboxing. They're not kickboxers anymore than kickboxers are Nak Muay. The training, the scoring, and the rules are different. Its like saying Nascar and F1 are the same because they both drive cars fast.

  • @rinaldypuruhito3613
    @rinaldypuruhito3613 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Both men showed great restraint, they were both going light and very respectful. Being a boxing enthusiast myself, i must say, the boxer would get murked if they were going at it for real.

  • @paulorawdogcosta3630
    @paulorawdogcosta3630 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    From my experience sparring boxers (Muay Thai base then changed to boxing and mma striking), once kicks are involved it really messes up their striking distance and it makes them super hard to adjust to fighting longer

  • @gammawavee5780
    @gammawavee5780 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Muay Thai is the most complete stand up martial arts in the world....Imagine clinching, elbows and knees being allowed against a boxer. Sambo and Judo are the most complete grappling martial arts as well, Sambo is pretty much all forms of wrestling in 1 and Judo is Jiu Jitsu with takedowns involved. Jiu Jitsu was created from Judo

    • @jacksonbrown4112
      @jacksonbrown4112 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Side note, Sambo comes from Judo.

    • @georgcantor7172
      @georgcantor7172 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Judo, which is a sport, is a derivative of jiu jitsu, which itself is a derivative from boa constrictor kung fu. Boa is the most lethal followed by jiu jitsu. Judo is the least lethal since it's a sport after all.

    • @gammawavee5780
      @gammawavee5780 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@georgcantor7172 Jiu Jitsu came from a Judo Master named Mitsuyo Maeda who went to Brazil to teach them Kano's Jiujitsu, which would later become the sport called Judo. Maeda trained a Brazilian named Carlos Gracie, and his brothers who changed Kano's Jiujitsu to Gracie's and later to Brazilian Jiujitsu. They were more of a submission based Jiujitsu instead of Kano's wrestling and slamming based Jiujitsu

    • @matthewa2095
      @matthewa2095 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I would argue that Sanda is the most complete stand up martial art in the world due to it's wrestling like takedown instead of exclusively trips

    • @Joobkl
      @Joobkl ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@matthewa2095 i train Muay Thai and got to spar a Sanda figher. Was interesting as they incorporate bit of kung fu and whip style kicks

  • @farfalleus8568
    @farfalleus8568 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this!!

  • @AndrewZaidan1997
    @AndrewZaidan1997 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This inspires me to start doing muay thai and boxing at the same time!

    • @buddahkush3801
      @buddahkush3801 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just do muay thai

    • @Thabooka
      @Thabooka ปีที่แล้ว

      @@buddahkush3801 out here in Thailand most of the top guys do western boxing (in the thai army) and muay thai - Examples Superlek/Sittichai/Superbon/Kaew Fairtex and thais with boxing coach like Buakaw/Yodsanklai/Tawanchai (all the PK Saenchai fighters got this super boxing coach)

    • @buddahkush3801
      @buddahkush3801 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Thabooka i didt know that my dream is going to Thailand and getting better at muay thai

    • @maxvarjagen9810
      @maxvarjagen9810 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's the same thing as just doing muay thai.

  • @lightartis228
    @lightartis228 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My "strategy" from boxer's perspective would be:
    1)throw out of the window in and out stuff,as well as outboxing things
    2)continuously push with separate punches, to and throw combo if at any point kicker gets hurt or outbalanced
    3)mid and close range stuff only
    4)instead of doing that classical in and out just keep side stepping...
    My point is that instead of trying to "outfight" moves of your opponent that you have no answer for it you should just do you your best to not allow him use those things in the first place...play based on cards that you actually have ,not based on cards that you wish you had...

    • @Dmvgold1995
      @Dmvgold1995 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah you need to be aggressive and come forward constantly. You will get punished badly trying to employ a outside boxing style with no idea how to deal with kicking or kick back

    • @pamlemm903
      @pamlemm903 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you tell me what you mean by the word window?

    • @cerberus.talking
      @cerberus.talking 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly, you shall focus on your do's and less focused on what can be done to you...

  • @taekwondobro
    @taekwondobro ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great breakdown from y’all

  • @elenchus
    @elenchus ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember going from kickboxing/karate to boxing many years ago for the first time, and just feeling how refreshing it was to not have to worry about kicks. When you add kicks as a legitimate threat, there's just so much more to worry about (and then that increases again when you go to MMA sparring and add takedowns). That said, I was never very good at either, so maybe that has more to do with my low aptitude than boxing and "kickboxing" (MT, K1, etc.).

    • @elenchus
      @elenchus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tatumergo3931 thanks for the kind words! I think I'm just sort of naturally geared towards grappling for some reason. It's odd, because as a kid I always wanted to do striking styles and I sort of accidentally fell into grappling because my university had a judo and aikido club so I just did that. Karate, TKD, and boxing (I did karate and TKD for a few years each, boxing for just one year) just never stuck with me.
      Granted, I'm not especially great at grappling either lol

  • @bunnyofdoom4501
    @bunnyofdoom4501 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Know what's even more fun than that? Double over hooks to prevent punches, then knee the shyt outta him. I've never met a boxer who could fight with knees in the clinch. Unless of course, he was a Thai boxer.

  • @Nesbrick
    @Nesbrick ปีที่แล้ว

    Love seeing these, Muay Thai all the way ❤️

  • @RexDartEskimoSpy
    @RexDartEskimoSpy ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm guessing that the second round was just a boxing round.

    • @flyingknee23
      @flyingknee23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They lost already at that point lol

    • @cheesymccheesefries275
      @cheesymccheesefries275 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea, They took their leg gear off second round

  • @Mr-Clark
    @Mr-Clark 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mad respect for both men. 💪🏻💪🏻

  • @elliotplazinski2264
    @elliotplazinski2264 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I got hit by the same combo Usman did when I first did this. My buddy wanted to try his kicks and I hadn’t worked out my defense yet, so I threw my head right into it 😂.

    • @kennybewley4420
      @kennybewley4420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah the classic "bash my forehead into their shin" defense 😂

  • @iamshredder3587
    @iamshredder3587 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha pretty good. I liked that they were both pretty good, pretty even matched in size and all, and both fought fairly pure in regards to their respective sports.
    One thing I noticed here for the boxer and remember from my first getting into mma (from early boxing and judo background) is just how much getting attacked with all those low kicks especially really throws off your whole boxing game if you're not used to it. I definitely think he got a good taste of that and could see it affecting him quite quickly. Even when the may Thai guy stopped throwing kicks he was still thrown off and wary of them which made it alot easier for the may Thai guy to outbox him hands alone. I think after while of that the boxer started getting his rhythm back and doing better.... but if the may Thai guy had started mixing in kicks again at that stage it'd have messed him up big time and be hard to get it back.
    Good video bro. Thanks.

  • @natejames3299
    @natejames3299 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep doin what you do.

  • @robin212212
    @robin212212 ปีที่แล้ว

    great controlled strikes by both fighters; best way to spar and learn.

  • @ryufight7987
    @ryufight7987 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That kickboxer was being gentle , he could have kneed him in the face 3 times , doing that bobbing and weaving stuff 😅
    Also, knees to the bread belly were there for the pickings, all day long, not to mention the high kicks to the face , and even the front kick was there for the pickings 😅.

  • @mynameismynameis666
    @mynameismynameis666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    solid striking on both ends here.

  • @stephandam
    @stephandam ปีที่แล้ว

    This is Sudsakorn gym in Pattaya.
    He is the one standing in the red corner.
    Fighter is YodPT and trainer is Ekapop klinmee

  • @mauiboyfitness1614
    @mauiboyfitness1614 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good spar 🔥

  • @howdo1govern995
    @howdo1govern995 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The coach in the ring was a great fighter in his day when at sityodtong. The guy in the black standing on the ring is also a big muay thai fighter name is sudsakorn sor klimee.

  • @alonzowitt5931
    @alonzowitt5931 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The peekaboo style boxing gives the kickboxers the hardest time because of the angles and explosiveness 👍

  • @micfrosty009
    @micfrosty009 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am curious if they’ve both been fighting for the same amount of time, because one person looks to have vastly more experience.

  • @ayoung1
    @ayoung1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It took me a minute to figure out which one was the boxer. The Thai fighter has better hands, imo.

  • @AdilMinocherhomjee
    @AdilMinocherhomjee ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video

  • @bandit6272
    @bandit6272 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You gotta watch those deep bobs and weaves against a Thai boxer. If you duck into a kick, it's going to hurt. I know this from first hand experience 😂. My ears are still ringing

    • @Whiteplane
      @Whiteplane ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup. that head kick while you are dropping your weight straight down lol

    • @flyingknee23
      @flyingknee23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💀💀

    • @flyingknee23
      @flyingknee23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ay bruh, you learned real quick after that kick huh 😂

    • @bandit6272
      @bandit6272 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@flyingknee23 Never did it again, lol. Nothing teaches a lesson like head trauma. Unless the head trauma is bad enough, then you forget everything 😂

    • @flyingknee23
      @flyingknee23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bandit6272 there’s the lesson 😂🤝

  • @f.entanyl
    @f.entanyl ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Every boxer has an excellent head movement until they get a kick to the leg."
    Iron Muaythaison

  • @charliebates9098
    @charliebates9098 ปีที่แล้ว

    He immediately became to concerned about the kicks

  • @robbyakbarsyah7719
    @robbyakbarsyah7719 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Its like using a sword against a spear

  • @PazCristo
    @PazCristo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jerry, you should also do the match between Nick and 健人蓋伊(Kick boxer who tried boxer rules)

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  ปีที่แล้ว

      Tell me more! Do you have a link?

    • @PazCristo
      @PazCristo ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@FightCommentary th-cam.com/video/imsoq4j5PhE/w-d-xo.html

  • @RandomLifeBOXING
    @RandomLifeBOXING ปีที่แล้ว

    Depends on range too... Close range boxers are good at grappling and can practice mma also

  • @achilleszonefanfan8181
    @achilleszonefanfan8181 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The boxer was a beginner as judging from the second round which was pure boxing, muay thai guy still had the upperhand. The boxer did the crucial mistake of not pacing up with the muay thai fighter. Both sports are brutal in their own way. It depends on skill, power, and footwork of their opponent

  • @barryjustrents
    @barryjustrents ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a pure boxer, I would never challenge a muay thai or kick boxer in their sport I know damn well those kicks hurt

  • @Cicada-oj4xq
    @Cicada-oj4xq ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing I’ve always heard about boxers vs kickboxers is that take away the kicks the boxer will win, not always i kickbox and I barely throw kicks since I’m not long enough to be consistent with them, so when I go into the boxing class I can consistently keep up or outbox the pure boxers there

  • @Jean-be7uk
    @Jean-be7uk ปีที่แล้ว

    They were alternating rounds between kick boxing and boxing rules, no Muay rules here (no clinch, no knees, no elbows, no sweeps). The Muay thai guy has been cool with the boxer by not throwing too many kicks (especially on his leading leg). Also the boxing dodges are very dangerous against a guy that throw knees because if you go down you get your face crushed by a knee that goes up. Same with side dodges, if your opponent can read it, you take a high kick in the head (look at the last Edwards vs Usman) .

  • @gunni2964
    @gunni2964 ปีที่แล้ว

    they muay thai guy was really nice, by not chopping his leg so much and probably alot more experienced fighter overall. was really fun to watch tho!

  • @angryzombie8088
    @angryzombie8088 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good fight by both guys. The Muay Thai guy boxing is so good, his stamina is great & way more efficient with his energy.
    Those kicks definitely gives problems to the boxer but even in round 2 boxing only the MT guy is doing good too.

  • @joeyblogsy
    @joeyblogsy ปีที่แล้ว

    ‘Slip, straight, hook, overhand’ proceeds to miss them all lol

  • @satumisan454
    @satumisan454 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    and the muay thai guy was very friendly, he did not very often lowkicks although they really hurts

  • @SY4K3-S4N
    @SY4K3-S4N ปีที่แล้ว +3

    El de Muay Thai casi ni usó las patadas para hacerlo todo más justo...
    Se nota la superioridad del Muay Thai.

  • @manuelbaut1044
    @manuelbaut1044 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That boxer definitely needs more training

    • @kisfiu4364
      @kisfiu4364 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes? You saw him dodging from his punches?
      Muay thai and boxing aren't same, training, workouts also aren't same.
      Peoples living in thai already addicted to 30°C or higher weather, training outdoor. Boxers not. The second round thai guy hits boxer's head bit stronger. My opinion is the boxer was really tired after round 1 due to warm weather.
      And other opinion go boxing then you will know what will happen after sparring with amateur boxers, do not lift the leg while fighting.

  • @believein1
    @believein1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure if you realized but round 1 was Muay Thai rules, round 2 shin pads are off and boxing only.
    But yeah, the leg kicks took their toll and slowed down the boxer quite a bit.

  • @Rei-uq1jv
    @Rei-uq1jv ปีที่แล้ว

    Overall these 2 fighters had theeir own way on fighting 2 diff styles, both has skills to be a proffesional and thats the one i love about this video. You dont watch videos like this and you only find some amateurs fighting

  • @Nate.V
    @Nate.V ปีที่แล้ว

    Not even the leg kicks just that long guard alone that Muay Thai implements is great also.

  • @electricblu6615
    @electricblu6615 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The secret to fighting a kickboxer/as a pure boxer (in my opinion as a person who's only trained boxing but has sparred under kickboxing rules) is to not over complicate things in your head. Just remember basic things like countering the leg kick with the right cross, dont reach for kicks, and dont use too much head movement and to rely more on parrying and footwork.

  • @CubanLibertarian
    @CubanLibertarian ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Muay Thai guy clearly has 300 fights under his belt😂

    • @KingoftheJiangl
      @KingoftheJiangl ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Haha fight twice a week for years

    • @flyingknee23
      @flyingknee23 ปีที่แล้ว

      He just got done with his fight. Mf still in that super saiyan ultra instinct mode. 😂

    • @MMZS528
      @MMZS528 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seems like they were both chilling so I don't think you can judge his skills when they weren't going 100

    • @pichupuche2474
      @pichupuche2474 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL I think this guy just only a trainer not even a proper fighter.

    • @matteoucini5358
      @matteoucini5358 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pichupuche2474 nono he's a fighter, we're friends in real life, his name is Yodpt and he's honestly amazing, he just won a WBC belt.

  • @sirpibble
    @sirpibble ปีที่แล้ว

    That was very kind of him not to blast him in the face ever time he dropped his lead arm to try and block a kick

  • @MrAdam921
    @MrAdam921 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Basic rule in boxing : create angle not distance, the boxer was standing in front at distance

    • @user-eb2kv7bg4t
      @user-eb2kv7bg4t 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the thai wouldn't let him. if the boxer try to create an angle, he will get kicked in the legs. also is harder to get an angle when your opponent is in a square stance

  • @leroyhayes3251
    @leroyhayes3251 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was not boxer vs Muay Thai.
    This was boxer vs Thai who didn’t clinch, knee, elbow, teep, or even really kick.
    I love boxing but it’s only one weapon of a Nak muays arsenal.
    Had the Thai wanted to the match is over in the first round.

  • @lookit87
    @lookit87 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boxer still showed great tactics with footeork to evade and escape opponent.

  • @thechickengod8087
    @thechickengod8087 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a person who actively does both Muay Thai and Boxing, I'd say gun is the better fighting style.

  • @HiroIndo16
    @HiroIndo16 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the MT guy went easy on him

    • @discipleaj
      @discipleaj ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100%. I don't know why the nak muay punched as much as he did. There was no reason at all for him to lose or come off worse in any of the close up engagements where he could have clinched. No leg kicks without the shin pads either. Bit of a silly video for them to say this is boxing vs muay thai and then we learn the nak muay has rules to restrict lots of his movements and just turn this into a boxing bout. Basically, it's an ego video for the boxer which is outright ridiculous. If you're going to challenge someone, then they fight their fight and you fight yours and we'll see who denies who.
      I would never agree to letting someone fight their A-game whilst I am limited to C-game due to most of my discipline and techniques being removed. Utterly pointless. Just call it a boxing bout and be done with it.

  • @damanOts
    @damanOts 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its crazy when you realize that if muay thai guy just spammed the low kick the boxer would have been humiliated. He literally has no defense for it. Its like if you were fighting a boxer and you had no clue how to defend body shots.
    The one “defense” boxer has is involuntarily putting his hand down to try to block, so muay thai could easily have punished that with a question mark kick, or a superman punch. Or just keep kicking the arm. That would be punishment enough.

  • @jeffliang1718
    @jeffliang1718 ปีที่แล้ว

    they said in the video, round 2 is boxing rules

  • @h.raw.photography9881
    @h.raw.photography9881 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Muay Thai guy it called Yodpt..i've meet him 2 weeks ago in italy. amazing guy. and fresh Wbc Champion

  • @bat0s4i
    @bat0s4i ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im a thai practicioner from Brazil and here we put a lot of effort on boxe too... Maybe its because the muay thai guy was been nice but i whould have kicked a lot more and when the boxer get used to the kicks i whould started to faint some kicks to lower his hands to open him to some punches.
    That sayied, i do spar with boxers from time to time and usually their boxe is better then mine and their footwork too, even if they have the habit to let the lead leg open (and they do).
    To answer the question: what happens when you kick a boxer?
    Deppend on the boxer lol. Ive seen boxers lost completelly after a few kicks and boxers ajust very fast to the distance since they almost always can get in and out faster then me.

  • @highfrequicyvibes9342
    @highfrequicyvibes9342 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im a boxer first hands down but i have been studying kicks latley lol the teap is my favorite i treat it like a jab kick basically its a range tool it beats all those leg kicks or round kicks just like jabs and crosses reach there target faster than hooks etc. The teap is my favorite kick i pop it just as effiently as my jab lol. The muay thai kicks are strong the knees i love in the pocket ive even deveolped a way to throw hooks or elbows with the corresponding knee in the pocket pretty cool. All incorpoorated into a boxers stance foot work etc. Honestly you guys should feel lucky more boxer dobt take a interests into completeing the art are footwork the alite of us is unmatched and hands we would be absolute monsters. my next step is grappling kicking is easy sense i pretty much understand how to shift my weight for strikes elbows easy you can hook you can elbow. Head butt etc.

  • @GABA-Gool
    @GABA-Gool ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t know the boxers background but he seemed to always be in a state of “uhh what do I do now?” Which is a common beginner thing. And the Muay Thai guy was barely kicking, so it didn’t have much to do with that. But every time I see the boxer get blitzed by a 1-2 with no defense in mind, it just reminds me of my early sparring days where I constantly had to tell myself “oh yeah. I should protect my head.” It’s different than incidentally eating punches while being defensive. He just had a lot of moments where he was just standing there, waiting for him to do something instead of initiating his offense.
    He isn’t bad by any means. I’m just curious how long he has been boxing. Very entertaining btw.

  • @aintlying9428
    @aintlying9428 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:52 that was quick reaction 😲

  • @xgtwb6473
    @xgtwb6473 ปีที่แล้ว

    Footwork and hands are great from the boxer, would love to see him start Thai style

    • @xgtwb6473
      @xgtwb6473 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also definitely should have been boxing first round lol

  • @Jrc954
    @Jrc954 ปีที่แล้ว

    Round 2 looks like just boxing. They took the gaurds off

  • @primolarhetorique9572
    @primolarhetorique9572 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Woah, that Muay Thai guy is so good, he even beats the boxer at boxing.

    • @user-cn7wy7xx5k
      @user-cn7wy7xx5k ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He is a true master of the eight limbs

    • @HenryTheBoilermaker3rdYear
      @HenryTheBoilermaker3rdYear 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've had sparring with a muay thai pro before in Thailand. Yes they can box. They would make great boxers in the pros but they all decide to go with muay thai instead unfortunately.

  • @shashikaperera7116
    @shashikaperera7116 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice fight by both

  • @vietnamtactical
    @vietnamtactical ปีที่แล้ว

    I was 140lbs going into basic training and there was some buff dude around 220-230lbs he let me leg kick him once and he had to sit down for a while

  • @omegasquad868
    @omegasquad868 ปีที่แล้ว

    would be nice to see these type of comparisons with lets say GGG vs 160lb kickboxer or MT fighter or Artur Beterbiev vs the current top KB or MT or a dream match would be a prime Mike Tyson vs any of the best prime KBs

  • @ronselporter4739
    @ronselporter4739 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gentleman to not use those elbows, knees and clinch. Must be a friendly spar.

  • @nickmuaythaiandfitness
    @nickmuaythaiandfitness ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I knew what level they were at their respective sport. Any chance you know ? The Thai guy looks really sharp.

  • @des6853
    @des6853 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jerry 你在幹嘛
    I know you saw that the second round said boxing only. Plus, MT dude too off his shin pads.
    Boxer's movement and footwork was great to watch.
    Also there was that one haymaker that I think, in contrary, was a good shot. Boxer took his head off line and tried to time them trading punches to keep his arm on top and connect.

  • @chanm2147
    @chanm2147 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    who was the MT guy? he was really good

  • @TPACasual
    @TPACasual ปีที่แล้ว

    It's like lets race 100 m, a swimmer in the pool vs a guy running on land. with a top kicker, the boxer wouldn't be able to even get close. This Muay Thai guy is just being super nice.

  • @peacefulbeast8386
    @peacefulbeast8386 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can clearly see in the second round that the shin guards were removed and they only used hands.

  • @andusz5518
    @andusz5518 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean light exhibition spars for the fun of it are super common. Hell, I would totally fight someone of a different style if I have the chance. Just fought a karate black belt and a brown belt like two-three weeks ago

  • @bgggha
    @bgggha ปีที่แล้ว

    Nick was involved in an “online incident” a while back, hope he writes you back😏

  • @MrJamesdh
    @MrJamesdh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You might think that a boxer's eyesight must be better. But dont forget that Muay Thai does not only look at punches, elbows, knees, kicks, they must protect all 4 parts.

  • @joy871919
    @joy871919 ปีที่แล้ว

    The second round is boxing round FYI. You can see they both had their shin guards off.

  • @xxpz0
    @xxpz0 ปีที่แล้ว

    Second round is boxing only according to the original Chinese commentaries in the video.

  • @20shitzngiggles
    @20shitzngiggles ปีที่แล้ว

    Without training kicks you are essentially in a boxing match with Goro. Your opponent just has more limbs to use.

  • @mac1414
    @mac1414 ปีที่แล้ว

    Note how in the second round they both have boxer's stance and not muay thai stance.

  • @chericmusic7972
    @chericmusic7972 ปีที่แล้ว

    2nd round was boxing only, they took off the shin guards.

  • @Desperado665
    @Desperado665 ปีที่แล้ว

    Round 2 the boxer was already exhausted from all the kicks . Prob contributed greatly to him getting outboxed

  • @steeveepee33
    @steeveepee33 ปีที่แล้ว

    The match switched to straight boxing in second round. The MT fighters shin guards are off and he's only throwing hands.