Bruce Lee taught to always cover the chin and bring guard as you come in range or they do.the jkd guy didnt use staight line punches enough or straight blasts. I see the fighters need to control the distance more and never telegraph the shots .I'm going to show the world how it's done I've done matial arts 24 years I've studied jkd for 8 years now its the best and saved my life ❤❤
I would say that Bruce Lee already had the mentality of modern MMA fighters, learn whatever style that works don't stick to one style he's soo ahead of his time.
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that's why don't study only the JKD, even a JKD coach shared me his experience as saying this, he studied so many arts before the JKD and JKD is like the style to take down opponent on his way to deliver blows to us, which means JKD relies on counter-attacking and on the Taoism of "not being there when not wanting there to happen"
Except all martial arts have a history of learning from others and adapting. While Bruce also had this ancient philosophy and learnt many things his primary basis was still his original wingchun. Anyone can take the philosophy (not Bruce's but made popular in the US/west) jkd has set movements, set positions etc. hard to teach beginners if you don't.
@@kristoffereberius2476 If you watch UFC 1 people were more closed-minded 99% of the Strikers Doesn't Grapple in the past. Few people who practiced more than one style back then.
@@kristoffereberius2476 China never had a Male UFC Champion because they are soo in Love with their Kung FU, If they are open minded would have a lot of MMA gym in China.
I teach JKD. The tricky thing is that Bruce Lee evolved a lot even after naming what he did "Jeet Kune Do", so what the art looks like is largely defined by who you train with. When Bruce Lee first described his art he said it was primarily a combination of fencing principles, boxing & wing chun. As time went on he moved the art further and further away from wing chun and more towards a kickboxing-like style. He also moved further and further away from trying to create the "ultimate" style and towards having no style (aka: absorb what's useful, reject what's not). After Bruce Lee died Dan Inosanto became the main source for learning JKD. And his love for the Filipino martial arts means that now most JKD guys who learned from him post-Lee bring a lot of those concepts into how they teach the art as well.
@@ronaldtrunk7944that’s not suitable for reality based self defence. The idea of JKD is to stay safe and not trap yourself by endangering yourself. Most people don’t underhand Bruce’s thought process.
That quote isn’t from Bruce. It’s an Inosanto quote and what he teaches bears little resemblance to what Bruce did outside of wing chun. I’ve never once seen Dan show fencing footwork which is a key component to the explosive closing power and speed of JKD. Wing chun as you rightly said played next to no role in JKD by the 73. Most people seem to think JKD is just modified wing chun which it is not. "The majority of people who practice Jeet Kune Do are mixed up, they think it should be a part of Wing Chun, a part of MMA, a part of Thai boxing, a part of wrestling, you know, a part of Wing Chun, which this is completely incorrect. You don't go from style to style, you go from distance to target or target to distance. Longest weapon to the nearest target and the most direct and efficient route possible, that is Jeet Kune Do." - Tommy Carruthers
The whole idea of JKD is to only use what works, if you practice JKD and can't fight, then you don't get it! Rickson Gracie - "Everything Bruce Lee spoke was the true essence of martial arts...and his philosophy about fighting was a 100% correct." Anderson Silva - "Wing Chun and the Bruce Lee stuff saved my life, inside the cage and ring!" Even GSP in a video, talked about using concepts and techniques he learned from Bruce Lee
MT guy didn’t have a top level teep. Jerry was begging for it to get thrown. Establishing the teep and then cutting off the side stepping would have limited JKD guy’s punch offense. From there, MT guy could get a higher connect rate on his relatively telegraphed round kicks
Correct me if I'm wrong, maybe this is one of those apologist things that's just gotten into the ether, but isn't JKD more of a training philosophy than a specific school of techniques and specific approaches? The description I'd heard made it sound like a pragmatic approach to mixed martial arts, shooting adopting the useful and ignoring the useless, but I'm sure there are multiple interpretations of JKD as a concept.
It’s supposed to be. But Dan Inosanto systematized it and there was a whole controversy over who owned the name of it between him and the Lee family. If I recall correctly there was a lot of training equipment that was allegedly left to Inosanto too that was in dispute.
My understanding is that the group that systematizes more focuses more on developing Jun Fan gung fu, which was designed by Sijo Bruce for himself, whereas Guro Dan embraces crosstraining more
@@Egg_of_the_King Everyone is supposed to find their most functional individual style but somehow it also always ends up looking like Bruce Lee movie fights, that's why people can pick it out so quickly
Yep, JKD doesn't actually exist. It's for people to brag about a connection to Bruce Lee. Notice that the successful JKD fighters never use Wing Chun. They simply kickbox
@@Egg_of_the_King All you guys have to do is prove it by actually fighting and beating other styles. Wing Chun has turned into the "believe me bro style" that always loses when put to the test. By the way I love Wing Chun movies. Ip Man was overrated but the Prodigal Son was amazing. I also love modern 90's kungfu film like Police Story 1. Don't get it twisted I'm aware that Jackie and Sammo would obliterate the average person and maybe some elite fighters but they wouldn't be using Wing Chun and secondly they have elite athletic physicality, that unfortunately younger generation of Chinese do not because they've been westernised..... Sorry about the rant at the end. Wing Chun still has a lot to prove. Muay Thai and boxing do not.
That's a lot of JKD's iconic straight lead right there, including that round 2 knock out punch. It is quite apparent that MT guy has trouble react or defend against the straight lead. JKD guy doesn't seem to be able to out-box/out-kick and out-cardio the MT guy especially at later rounds, but his JKD straight lead works throughout all the rounds.
This was a badass fight! Congratulations to both fighters for putting on a Hell of a fight and leaving it all in the ring. Great statement about the hand being in front of the face as an emergency backup.
Great match. As it wore on, JKD guy did less range control and that led to more of a diet of punches. His head movement is impressive (though maybe a little exaggerated at times). I agree, leaving the hands down is generally a bad idea. You might be onto something about Bruce Lee’s Cha-Cha experience. It would hone a great sense of balance and rhythm. The latter helps in sensing and then breaking up an opponent’s cadence so his (or her) timing is off. Hehe… so all those dance classes were useful. Who knew?
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Just SO much energy expenditure. Without god tier conditioning this is not a practical style or pace,. Which honestly makes it that much more impressive.
As a JKD practitioner since the early '90's, this is an alright example to show people on what JKD is all about. It's not flying sidekicks and yelling "wah" all the time. JKD is essentially MMA but designed for street fights. That's why its so easy for practitioners to transfer their skills over to MMA. However, what I don't like is that the JKD is keeping his hands down and relying on head and footwork, not setting up counters, the Muay Thai guy isn't being "Muay Thai" enough (e.g., more elbows, knees, clinch, etc.). Sure he was using some teeps & switch kicks from time-to-time, but he should be the expert inside fighter out of the two. Still, it was an ok amateur match.
Good head and lateral movement. If he would counter more often from his evasion and had better close distance/clinch technique he would destroy the opponent
The baiting the JKD guy does is a great example of his understanding of the five ways of attack, in particular is understanding of attack by drawing (baiting). Although his usage of interception is almost non-existant, but to be fair, almost no one can use intercepts well in fights.
i've fought in a boxing ring and i find it much easier to see and fight when both my hands are down. especially, when you're tired. of course you got to have good defends and fast reactions. i also didn't choose to put my hands down. it comes naturally to me.
I train JKD in Colorado, and although we would be a little more relaxed at a distance, in sparring, we'd have our hands up and protect our heads at all times. We also favor a right handed lead in training (left handed if you're left handed) , the logic being you'd train to your natural strengths. You could train both sides but it would probably not be as beneficial as training your natural lead. We train a direct lineage from Ted Wong, but I know other people have added and taken away things from the old days. JKD guy was awesome though, hopefully he trains those hands up. Love your vids, analysis is always on point.
Dudes got decent head movement. Issue is, as soon as he got tired and his opponent got his timing he started getting hit because he's hands were down. If you're gonna have a hands down style you better be able to maintain it for the duration of the fight. even then it's dangerous.
The stance changing also helps with angles and lines of attack, especially with kicking. In TKD (WTF), there are specific drills to counter kicks from an open engagement (one fighter orthodox and the other southpaw) and from a closed engagement (both fighters using same stance) because attack angles and kick ranges are very different for each leg depending on the engagement type.
JKD guy took one too many chances. He could have eaten it pretty good. There were parts which I was a little worried. As usual, it's always up to the practitioner. I'd like to see more of this guy.
JKD also (in the book of Bruce) featured focusing on Judo and Jujitsu, Wrestling best moves to avoid and counteract ground fighting.Clearly it was (is) not supposed to be bullshido.
Grappling is bs, why would you spend time and energy doing that when you can spend it trying to end the fight in the least time possible, JKD is not meant for sport but self defense
It's easy to have all that fast lateral movement and head movement early on. But going into late rounds "JKD" guy slowed down and ate a lot of punches. Pretty typical.
Li's fight style in the first round reminded me of Lerdsila a bit, although I don't think he's nearly as refined at this point. He also seems more prone to getting into extended exchanges, which I think could have really hurt him against an opponent with better cardio and ability to pressure. Still, that was a good performance, and he got the win.
I mean ones fight IQ is the same but you learn your opponents patterns, openings, strengths, and weaknesses as the fight progresses, depending on the level of fight IQ.
7:02 Side kick was good, the side kick he used uses something referred to as a pendulum step, it makes the side kick less obvious and faster. however had he rotated his hips around more to turn it into almost a donkey kick he could have used his glutes to make the kick twice as powerful.
After Bruce Lee see Wing Chun are useless he create JKD after study Boxing,Karate,Judo,Sambo other styles Bruce Lee tried make a style where a person can express yourself in every way.
Hands down depends or great distance judging and management, and it should always be part of some strategic or tactical attack, otherwise hands up should be maintained. It should not just be done for the sake of showing off head movement.
His stance honestly reminds me a lot of Wonderboy. Keeping the hands down and loose, lots of head movement and light, bouncing steps. The problem is, 99% of us aren't Wonderboy. Also, baiting with the head is classic Mayweather. You basically lean forward and give your opponent a shot at you, so when you sway back, you're actually in perfect position to land a counter blow because you're back to a neutral position, instead of your center of gravity being past your base.
Dude has amazing head movement, but he also got hit in the head more than he needed to 😂. Hes got good jabs and timing, but again, gotta keep a hand up like you said jerry
80 percent in defense for head movements , but lack of cover.. he has a good speed, but lack of power.. in jkd you can do a minimal head movements while putting your shoulder and elbows up for cover.
any fight are involved with distance,timing,speed and power. remember touch and not be touch. jkd are concerned with boxing,fening and savate,but don't forget kung-fu. deal with the factors of fight you will know what the concept of jkd is.
Jkd is symmetrical You fight with both sides One hand behind your back Fighting from a chair etc If one side is weak you overtrain that side till it’s better
JKD guy has great head movement and started off pretty good. Muay Thai guy lack conviction in his kicks and is a slow puncher. The knock down woke him up a bit and started to build confidence. It stopped being a lopsided beat own after the knockdown. Not bad
Many, many have missed the true JKD essence because of the "concept" statement Bruce made. The truth is, to really understand what JKD is you must first understand why it's created by Bruce Lee. It started after the fight with Wong Jack Man that lasted way too long than Bruce would've anticipated, though it's actually just under 3 minutes which is actually not that long by pro combat sports standard, but for Bruce, a good fighter should be able to end a fight in seconds, not minutes, hence his journey to crystallize various martial arts and fighting techniques into what's known to be Jeet Kune Do began. So no, JKD is NOT just some concept of whatever works in a fight or just essentially mma 😂 JKD is a crystallization of whatever works to end a fight as fast as possible, meaning whatever is the most effective and efficient techniques to end a fight, THAT'S JKD. That's why you can't say that it's "different for everyone", or "just use whatever works for you and that's your own JKD", "JKD is just MMA" or "JKD keeps evolving" 😂 I mean, sure, if you manage to make the techniques and ways that Bruce had crystallized from his various findings in JKD even more efficient and effective or maybe you invented or found new/other techniques that work better to end a fight than what Bruce found then yeah, that would be JKD, but as of today, I have never seen someone that claims that he has evolved JKD has actually don that and personally I myself haven't found many better techniques or ways better than Bruce's, though there are some. That's why Dan Inisanto has done a great disservice to JKD by adding many flowery techniques he found from Silat or Panantukan or whatever, hence complicating JKD which in turn made it no longer JKD. As to the "JKD guy" from the video, he had some ideas of what JKD is but was still far from understanding what it truly is let alone mastering the techniques. He missed too many chances to intercept, his timing was way off, his precision was lacking, he lacked speed and ferocity to end the fight. He should stop calling himself a "JKD guy" and change it to "JKD student" instead because he's definitely still learning.
This was not fair at all!, in jkd's martial art, when mma took jkd's neck work, he could do a lot of kicks, he could even hit a lot of kicks, and he could also use wrestling moves, and actually mma works only with hands. That's it! In JKD, he could only hit the opponent with a simple wrestling technique, but due to the rules, he only came with a simple punch and kick! Bruselli's martial art consists of 29 martial arts, and we only had jkd's fist in this video, which is not fair!
seems yo me the more i train myself and the more fights i watch thats its ALL about APPLICATION AND ADAPTATION to yer opponent...like u train a certain style in yer dojo and what ever and that is in your knowledge and muscle memory , but it will never look like that in the ring or in the streets, bcuz the base is like the sleleton in a human body and the rest is the acrual body itself...thats why techniques are so important and muscle memory so u dont forget how do fight in a fight and u always rely on yer training snd THRUST in yer training when things look rough, i believe this is waht happened w MT giy in the first round,mot look like he was clearly loosing but...
4:49 He was kicking at the same time... I'm pretty sure that would've not counted as a knockdown in Thailand.. See how fast he springed up from there, he wasn't rocked at all.
The JDK guy is definitely a decent fighter. But man those hands down like that will get him knocked out one day! You can't rely on head movements alone.
The thing about JKD (as practiced) is that it is an outdated technology. Bruce Lee died in 1973. Maybe his JKD was ahead of its time then. The striking elements have since been surpassed by the mixing and evolution of Muay Thai and Karate into various forms of Kickboxing in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Its grappling element was not well developed but at least it was incorporated unlike the striking only martial arts. The grappling elements of JKD is now overshadowed by wrestling and BJJ for MMA. If the UFC had started in 1971, JKD might have been one of the favored styles, and would have evolved in the fires of competition.
Not at all, JKD is about ending the fight in the least time possible and striking the weakest targets aka eyes,throat,groin and knees, mma is only for sport and entertainment purposes
I don't understand the fixation with dropping hands while fighting. There's an appropriate range and context for that. Many great fighters, including boxers (Ali/Mayweather) didn't always keep their hands up because they understood the context in which they are used.
People are lazy and keeping hands down is energy efficient. Faster fighters succeed with low hands in spite of the fundamental flaws and don’t get exposed up to a point
@@mengmao5033 Energy efficiency is definitely a factor. There's really no need to keep your hands up and waste energy if you're out of reach of your opponent. Lyoto Machida fought karate-style blitzing in and out of opponent's effective range and his hands were down when out of range. Keeping hands up is a form of insurance at mid-ranges with a small energy premium and reduced visibility, among others.
The guy in the red corner is a nice fighter with some good skills…but I would not call it JKD, since I saw very little no none of what makes it JKD….and no I am not talking about technique
The jeet kune do guy messed around too much, he should've done more attack than dodging, they both gassed out at the end. And maybe the ball kicking affected him too much.
That's not Jeet Kune Do. Jeet Kune Do principles he's using but he's not using the Jeet Kune Do fighting system. I don't see any Jeet Kune Do techniques.
i dont think the left and right side of the brain works w the one hand guard philosophy jerry its either both or nothimg, other wise more ppl would do it if it feels natural, it doesn't feel natural to hold ur hands up for ten minutes straight either
that Muay white guy surely don't know how to use his learned technique not watching past matches, when pitted against really fast and moving opponents he should be aiming for the body and legs while guarding his own and toughing out the damage like any muay thai fighter embracing the pain but giving 10x as much usually these fast guys tires faster and can be catch easily as they're not use to pain and getting hit frequently that's why they train to be fast and not to be sturdy like muay thai fighters
if he's not dominating in 👊 punching and upper body it aint legit JKD. he hasn't even used a single right lead or stop kick which tells allot. looks like a boxer with a bit of muy thai training.
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I'm not impressed.
Bruce Lee taught to always cover the chin and bring guard as you come in range or they do.the jkd guy didnt use staight line punches enough or straight blasts. I see the fighters need to control the distance more and never telegraph the shots .I'm going to show the world how it's done I've done matial arts 24 years I've studied jkd for 8 years now its the best and saved my life ❤❤
I would say that Bruce Lee already had the mentality of modern MMA fighters, learn whatever style that works don't stick to one style he's soo ahead of his time.
that's why don't study only the JKD, even a JKD coach shared me his experience as saying this, he studied so many arts before the JKD and JKD is like the style to take down opponent on his way to deliver blows to us, which means JKD relies on counter-attacking and on the Taoism of "not being there when not wanting there to happen"
Except all martial arts have a history of learning from others and adapting. While Bruce also had this ancient philosophy and learnt many things his primary basis was still his original wingchun. Anyone can take the philosophy (not Bruce's but made popular in the US/west) jkd has set movements, set positions etc. hard to teach beginners if you don't.
@@kristoffereberius2476 If you watch UFC 1 people were more closed-minded 99% of the Strikers Doesn't Grapple in the past. Few people who practiced more than one style back then.
@@kristoffereberius2476 China never had a Male UFC Champion because they are soo in Love with their Kung FU, If they are open minded would have a lot of MMA gym in China.
@@kristoffereberius2476 Bruce are different he are open minded and always wanted evolve and learn everything, He's a True Fighter.
I teach JKD. The tricky thing is that Bruce Lee evolved a lot even after naming what he did "Jeet Kune Do", so what the art looks like is largely defined by who you train with.
When Bruce Lee first described his art he said it was primarily a combination of fencing principles, boxing & wing chun.
As time went on he moved the art further and further away from wing chun and more towards a kickboxing-like style.
He also moved further and further away from trying to create the "ultimate" style and towards having no style (aka: absorb what's useful, reject what's not).
After Bruce Lee died Dan Inosanto became the main source for learning JKD. And his love for the Filipino martial arts means that now most JKD guys who learned from him post-Lee bring a lot of those concepts into how they teach the art as well.
i think if Bruce Lee lived long enough, he would've evolved JKD into present day jiu-jitsu (MMA)
@@ronaldtrunk7944nope, watch Thomas Marx Original Jeet Kune Do
@@ronaldtrunk7944nonsense
@@ronaldtrunk7944that’s not suitable for reality based self defence. The idea of JKD is to stay safe and not trap yourself by endangering yourself.
Most people don’t underhand Bruce’s thought process.
That quote isn’t from Bruce. It’s an Inosanto quote and what he teaches bears little resemblance to what Bruce did outside of wing chun.
I’ve never once seen Dan show fencing footwork which is a key component to the explosive closing power and speed of JKD.
Wing chun as you rightly said played next to no role in JKD by the 73.
Most people seem to think JKD is just modified wing chun which it is not.
"The majority of people who practice Jeet Kune Do are mixed up, they think it should be a part of Wing Chun, a part of MMA, a part of Thai boxing, a part of wrestling, you know, a part of Wing Chun, which this is completely incorrect. You don't go from style to style, you go from distance to target or target to distance. Longest weapon to the nearest target and the most direct and efficient route possible, that is Jeet Kune Do." - Tommy Carruthers
The whole idea of JKD is to only use what works, if you practice JKD and can't fight, then you don't get it!
Rickson Gracie - "Everything Bruce Lee spoke was the true essence of martial arts...and his philosophy about fighting was a 100% correct."
Anderson Silva - "Wing Chun and the Bruce Lee stuff saved my life, inside the cage and ring!"
Even GSP in a video, talked about using concepts and techniques he learned from Bruce Lee
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Literally had the same thought
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MT guy didn’t have a top level teep. Jerry was begging for it to get thrown. Establishing the teep and then cutting off the side stepping would have limited JKD guy’s punch offense. From there, MT guy could get a higher connect rate on his relatively telegraphed round kicks
None of his kicks were top level. On a scale of 1-Buakaw I’d give him a 3
Correct me if I'm wrong, maybe this is one of those apologist things that's just gotten into the ether, but isn't JKD more of a training philosophy than a specific school of techniques and specific approaches? The description I'd heard made it sound like a pragmatic approach to mixed martial arts, shooting adopting the useful and ignoring the useless, but I'm sure there are multiple interpretations of JKD as a concept.
It’s supposed to be. But Dan Inosanto systematized it and there was a whole controversy over who owned the name of it between him and the Lee family. If I recall correctly there was a lot of training equipment that was allegedly left to Inosanto too that was in dispute.
My understanding is that the group that systematizes more focuses more on developing Jun Fan gung fu, which was designed by Sijo Bruce for himself, whereas Guro Dan embraces crosstraining more
@@Egg_of_the_King Everyone is supposed to find their most functional individual style but somehow it also always ends up looking like Bruce Lee movie fights, that's why people can pick it out so quickly
Yep, JKD doesn't actually exist. It's for people to brag about a connection to Bruce Lee. Notice that the successful JKD fighters never use Wing Chun. They simply kickbox
@@Egg_of_the_King All you guys have to do is prove it by actually fighting and beating other styles. Wing Chun has turned into the "believe me bro style" that always loses when put to the test. By the way I love Wing Chun movies. Ip Man was overrated but the Prodigal Son was amazing. I also love modern 90's kungfu film like Police Story 1. Don't get it twisted I'm aware that Jackie and Sammo would obliterate the average person and maybe some elite fighters but they wouldn't be using Wing Chun and secondly they have elite athletic physicality, that unfortunately younger generation of Chinese do not because they've been westernised..... Sorry about the rant at the end. Wing Chun still has a lot to prove. Muay Thai and boxing do not.
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That's a lot of JKD's iconic straight lead right there, including that round 2 knock out punch. It is quite apparent that MT guy has trouble react or defend against the straight lead. JKD guy doesn't seem to be able to out-box/out-kick and out-cardio the MT guy especially at later rounds, but his JKD straight lead works throughout all the rounds.
The straight lead and head movement carried
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Great fight. Both fighters put up their best in my opinion. I learned from both contenders watching this.
This was a badass fight! Congratulations to both fighters for putting on a Hell of a fight and leaving it all in the ring.
Great statement about the hand being in front of the face as an emergency backup.
fun fact: back when UFC was still to start, in an italian comics, the "futuristic" martial art of choice for the year 2200 or so was indeed JKD.
Great match. As it wore on, JKD guy did less range control and that led to more of a diet of punches. His head movement is impressive (though maybe a little exaggerated at times). I agree, leaving the hands down is generally a bad idea.
You might be onto something about Bruce Lee’s Cha-Cha experience. It would hone a great sense of balance and rhythm. The latter helps in sensing and then breaking up an opponent’s cadence so his (or her) timing is off. Hehe… so all those dance classes were useful. Who knew?
The hands down is essential for pulling off some moves but terrible for defense, that's why it's only done outside of the range.
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Just SO much energy expenditure. Without god tier conditioning this is not a practical style or pace,. Which honestly makes it that much more impressive.
As a JKD practitioner since the early '90's, this is an alright example to show people on what JKD is all about. It's not flying sidekicks and yelling "wah" all the time. JKD is essentially MMA but designed for street fights. That's why its so easy for practitioners to transfer their skills over to MMA.
However, what I don't like is that the JKD is keeping his hands down and relying on head and footwork, not setting up counters, the Muay Thai guy isn't being "Muay Thai" enough (e.g., more elbows, knees, clinch, etc.). Sure he was using some teeps & switch kicks from time-to-time, but he should be the expert inside fighter out of the two. Still, it was an ok amateur match.
Good head and lateral movement. If he would counter more often from his evasion and had better close distance/clinch technique he would destroy the opponent
The baiting the JKD guy does is a great example of his understanding of the five ways of attack, in particular is understanding of attack by drawing (baiting). Although his usage of interception is almost non-existant, but to be fair, almost no one can use intercepts well in fights.
ABD, right?
i've fought in a boxing ring and i find it much easier to see and fight when both my hands are down. especially, when you're tired. of course you got to have good defends and fast reactions. i also didn't choose to put my hands down. it comes naturally to me.
Yeah its a trade off
I train JKD in Colorado, and although we would be a little more relaxed at a distance, in sparring, we'd have our hands up and protect our heads at all times. We also favor a right handed lead in training (left handed if you're left handed) , the logic being you'd train to your natural strengths. You could train both sides but it would probably not be as beneficial as training your natural lead. We train a direct lineage from Ted Wong, but I know other people have added and taken away things from the old days. JKD guy was awesome though, hopefully he trains those hands up. Love your vids, analysis is always on point.
The JKD guy got hands his kicks and punches are very clean and very crisp and I'm very impressed with his head movement.
His kicks are still lacking
Awesome skills.
Dudes got decent head movement. Issue is, as soon as he got tired and his opponent got his timing he started getting hit because he's hands were down.
If you're gonna have a hands down style you better be able to maintain it for the duration of the fight. even then it's dangerous.
The stance changing also helps with angles and lines of attack, especially with kicking. In TKD (WTF), there are specific drills to counter kicks from an open engagement (one fighter orthodox and the other southpaw) and from a closed engagement (both fighters using same stance) because attack angles and kick ranges are very different for each leg depending on the engagement type.
JKD guy took one too many chances. He could have eaten it pretty good. There were parts which I was a little worried. As usual, it's always up to the practitioner. I'd like to see more of this guy.
His footwork and ring cutting is either really good, or he's just not getting low kicked and walked down enough.
nice intercepting and timing real jkd!
JKD also (in the book of Bruce) featured focusing on Judo and Jujitsu, Wrestling best moves to avoid and counteract ground fighting.Clearly it was (is) not supposed to be bullshido.
Grappling is bs, why would you spend time and energy doing that when you can spend it trying to end the fight in the least time possible, JKD is not meant for sport but self defense
It's easy to have all that fast lateral movement and head movement early on. But going into late rounds "JKD" guy slowed down and ate a lot of punches. Pretty typical.
Li's fight style in the first round reminded me of Lerdsila a bit, although I don't think he's nearly as refined at this point. He also seems more prone to getting into extended exchanges, which I think could have really hurt him against an opponent with better cardio and ability to pressure. Still, that was a good performance, and he got the win.
Slapboxing with throws pushing and takedowns vs boxing would be very interesting
Good fight, man.. more! :)
Jerry, Carl "The Cobra" Froch was a world champion boxer, and his whole style was hands down (from what I can remember). What are your thoughts?
Everyone have his own style can work if you train like a demon.
That stance and striking style is Savate. It is very good versus muay thai if you can control range as well as this guy does.
I mean ones fight IQ is the same but you learn your opponents patterns, openings, strengths, and weaknesses as the fight progresses, depending on the level of fight IQ.
He uses the JKD vertical fist straight lead pretty effectively.
7:02 Side kick was good, the side kick he used uses something referred to as a pendulum step, it makes the side kick less obvious and faster. however had he rotated his hips around more to turn it into almost a donkey kick he could have used his glutes to make the kick twice as powerful.
We gotta stop with the "when __ works".... A lot of styles "work". When they don't it's usually the fault of the practitioner, not the style.
@baeshin how about if it's no style?
After Bruce Lee see Wing Chun are useless he create JKD after study Boxing,Karate,Judo,Sambo other styles Bruce Lee tried make a style where a person can express yourself in every way.
I don't know about jkd, but Bruce Lee way of fighting used to look all about controlling the distance and speed 👍.
yup different ranges of fight in his book tao of jkd. and use what works for you basically discard what dosent
Hands down depends or great distance judging and management, and it should always be part of some strategic or tactical attack, otherwise hands up should be maintained. It should not just be done for the sake of showing off head movement.
I'm surprised he didn't do straight blast punches which is one of applications of JKD.
Jkd dude has an amazing physique
These are very good fighters on both sides.
His stance honestly reminds me a lot of Wonderboy. Keeping the hands down and loose, lots of head movement and light, bouncing steps. The problem is, 99% of us aren't Wonderboy. Also, baiting with the head is classic Mayweather. You basically lean forward and give your opponent a shot at you, so when you sway back, you're actually in perfect position to land a counter blow because you're back to a neutral position, instead of your center of gravity being past your base.
Wonderboy kicks my a55 x 100 even in my wildest dreams... That guy is naturally gifted.
Good fight and good commentary ...
Dude has amazing head movement, but he also got hit in the head more than he needed to 😂. Hes got good jabs and timing, but again, gotta keep a hand up like you said jerry
The description of this video Taiwanese JKD artist named Li Ke Wei vs a Muay Thai guy.
That was definitely a good fight
80 percent in defense for head movements , but lack of cover.. he has a good speed, but lack of power.. in jkd you can do a minimal head movements while putting your shoulder and elbows up for cover.
any fight are involved with distance,timing,speed and power. remember touch and not be touch. jkd are concerned with boxing,fening and savate,but don't forget kung-fu.
deal with the factors of fight you will know what the concept of jkd is.
Bruce Lee advocates for hands up in the Tao of Jeet Kune Do 'Preliminaries' section.
Jkd is symmetrical
You fight with both sides
One hand behind your back
Fighting from a chair etc
If one side is weak you overtrain that side till it’s better
Yes, bruce was right-handed but fought in southpaw and i imagine he could switch stances, but idk
Yes he could
'JKD guy in the red corner... we'll just call him "Lee"', LOL
JKD guy has great head movement and started off pretty good. Muay Thai guy lack conviction in his kicks and is a slow puncher. The knock down woke him up a bit and started to build confidence. It stopped being a lopsided beat own after the knockdown. Not bad
Many, many have missed the true JKD essence because of the "concept" statement Bruce made. The truth is, to really understand what JKD is you must first understand why it's created by Bruce Lee. It started after the fight with Wong Jack Man that lasted way too long than Bruce would've anticipated, though it's actually just under 3 minutes which is actually not that long by pro combat sports standard, but for Bruce, a good fighter should be able to end a fight in seconds, not minutes, hence his journey to crystallize various martial arts and fighting techniques into what's known to be Jeet Kune Do began. So no, JKD is NOT just some concept of whatever works in a fight or just essentially mma 😂 JKD is a crystallization of whatever works to end a fight as fast as possible, meaning whatever is the most effective and efficient techniques to end a fight, THAT'S JKD. That's why you can't say that it's "different for everyone", or "just use whatever works for you and that's your own JKD", "JKD is just MMA" or "JKD keeps evolving" 😂 I mean, sure, if you manage to make the techniques and ways that Bruce had crystallized from his various findings in JKD even more efficient and effective or maybe you invented or found new/other techniques that work better to end a fight than what Bruce found then yeah, that would be JKD, but as of today, I have never seen someone that claims that he has evolved JKD has actually don that and personally I myself haven't found many better techniques or ways better than Bruce's, though there are some. That's why Dan Inisanto has done a great disservice to JKD by adding many flowery techniques he found from Silat or Panantukan or whatever, hence complicating JKD which in turn made it no longer JKD.
As to the "JKD guy" from the video, he had some ideas of what JKD is but was still far from understanding what it truly is let alone mastering the techniques. He missed too many chances to intercept, his timing was way off, his precision was lacking, he lacked speed and ferocity to end the fight. He should stop calling himself a "JKD guy" and change it to "JKD student" instead because he's definitely still learning.
WHO WON??
JKD should have just stuck with the right jab and right straight / cross. Did way more damage than with the left.
Ain't it Kick Boxing I mean I don't see any elbow thrown I might be mistaken?
Muhammad Ali was basis for Jeet Kune Do's boxing footwork, stance and punching.
Lead punch/stop hit
This was not fair at all!, in jkd's martial art, when mma took jkd's neck work, he could do a lot of kicks, he could even hit a lot of kicks, and he could also use wrestling moves, and actually mma works only with hands. That's it! In JKD, he could only hit the opponent with a simple wrestling technique, but due to the rules, he only came with a simple punch and kick! Bruselli's martial art consists of 29 martial arts, and we only had jkd's fist in this video, which is not fair!
seems yo me the more i train myself and the more fights i watch thats its ALL about APPLICATION AND ADAPTATION to yer opponent...like u train a certain style in yer dojo and what ever and that is in your knowledge and muscle memory , but it will never look like that in the ring or in the streets, bcuz the base is like the sleleton in a human body and the rest is the acrual body itself...thats why techniques are so important and muscle memory so u dont forget how do fight in a fight and u always rely on yer training snd THRUST in yer training when things look rough, i believe this is waht happened w MT giy in the first round,mot look like he was clearly loosing but...
4:49 He was kicking at the same time... I'm pretty sure that would've not counted as a knockdown in Thailand..
See how fast he springed up from there, he wasn't rocked at all.
Dope.. But Bruce regretted naming it JKD since it could be considered a style rather than a martial arts philosophy or whatnot b4 he died.
Jkd training is power hand forward. As far as I know stance switching is not emphasized.
Buakaw hota toh jkd wale ki dayia maiya kr deta
That's barly Muay Thai, he is more of a Kickboxer
The JDK guy is definitely a decent fighter. But man those hands down like that will get him knocked out one day! You can't rely on head movements alone.
The thing about JKD (as practiced) is that it is an outdated technology. Bruce Lee died in 1973. Maybe his JKD was ahead of its time then. The striking elements have since been surpassed by the mixing and evolution of Muay Thai and Karate into various forms of Kickboxing in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Its grappling element was not well developed but at least it was incorporated unlike the striking only martial arts. The grappling elements of JKD is now overshadowed by wrestling and BJJ for MMA.
If the UFC had started in 1971, JKD might have been one of the favored styles, and would have evolved in the fires of competition.
Nonsense, watch Thomas Marx Original Jeet Kune Do if you want to understand it
Jkd is pretty much just mma , take what works and get rid of what doesn't.
I agree , hands need to stay up .
JKD was essentially a proto early version of MMA and MMA is what JKD would have eventually become. Basically learn MMA.
Not at all, JKD is about ending the fight in the least time possible and striking the weakest targets aka eyes,throat,groin and knees, mma is only for sport and entertainment purposes
Wait till he meet the real Muay Thai
I have the craziest mma fighter vs Muay Thai fighter short 👀😮💨
JKD has a ton of gas. You can tell he trains a lot.
I don't understand the fixation with dropping hands while fighting. There's an appropriate range and context for that. Many great fighters, including boxers (Ali/Mayweather) didn't always keep their hands up because they understood the context in which they are used.
People are lazy and keeping hands down is energy efficient. Faster fighters succeed with low hands in spite of the fundamental flaws and don’t get exposed up to a point
@@mengmao5033 Energy efficiency is definitely a factor. There's really no need to keep your hands up and waste energy if you're out of reach of your opponent. Lyoto Machida fought karate-style blitzing in and out of opponent's effective range and his hands were down when out of range. Keeping hands up is a form of insurance at mid-ranges with a small energy premium and reduced visibility, among others.
The guy in the red corner is a nice fighter with some good skills…but I would not call it JKD, since I saw very little no none of what makes it JKD….and no I am not talking about technique
0:43 boxing is a part of jeet kune do
The jeet kune do guy messed around too much, he should've done more attack than dodging, they both gassed out at the end. And maybe the ball kicking affected him too much.
great fighter but what's with the hands down approach... if he can't move like Jeff Chan, then he'd better keep his hands up.
Jkd Guy hand down is he own ,he master never teach him hand down
Tired is crazy
No way is that a good JKD representation
That's not Jeet Kune Do. Jeet Kune Do principles he's using but he's not using the Jeet Kune Do fighting system. I don't see any Jeet Kune Do techniques.
i dont think the left and right side of the brain works w the one hand guard philosophy jerry its either both or nothimg, other wise more ppl would do it if it feels natural, it doesn't feel natural to hold ur hands up for ten minutes straight either
Good fighter but I didn't see any JKD techniques being used
maybe thats a friendly sparring to give some show.but thats what i dont like in the ring
I think muy thai guy made him eat more punches this is more jkd guy doing kickboxing but good fight all around.
that Muay white guy surely don't know how to use his learned technique not watching past matches, when pitted against really fast and moving opponents he should be aiming for the body and legs while guarding his own and toughing out the damage like any muay thai fighter embracing the pain but giving 10x as much usually these fast guys tires faster and can be catch easily as they're not use to pain and getting hit frequently that's why they train to be fast and not to be sturdy like muay thai fighters
Practice JKD? i thought it was a philosophical thing? like adapt and remove?
if he's not dominating in 👊 punching and upper body it aint legit JKD. he hasn't even used a single right lead or stop kick which tells allot. looks like a boxer with a bit of muy thai training.
I'm guessing not blocking your face is the reason JKD isn't in mainstream MMA
I don't see any Muay Thai here. Just a high level JKD practitioner and a full contact mid level fighter.
Thos is how JKD suppise to work! Stay mobile
JKD?
Qi la la vs this JKD
That would be awesome!
Fight IQ 400