If anyone out there wants to understand the function of a conductor, look at this. It puts the lie to the phrase "the conductor's there just to keep the beat". His understanding of phrasing and his musicality are outstanding. You might not agree with his interpretation but if there are any young conductors viewing this clip, take careful note and learn and enjoy!
Nobody understand why I am so obsessed with this man. I am not a musician, I have never attended proper music lessons, but for me his conducting seems out of this world. Thank you so much for uploading this.
That's because he's an egotistical dimwit, and you are some hypergamous woman who is looking for a dominating egotistical man. Even though he is a short little guy!
Michelangelo had it right when he said that trifles go to make up perfection, which is no trifle. Karajan has extraordinary spiritual insight into this music. It guides him through the musical data, like a micro-processor, flipping tiny switches on or off, so that Schumann can live and reveal his soul to us in these wonderful notes.
Right...you look at Karajan and Furtwangler and you may be lost, but the magic in their conducting styles is that they literally physically manifested before the ensemble what the piece was to be. It's so amazing to me. I strive to do the same as a choral conductor.
I was a extra in Tosca in Salzburg. I was in firing squad in the general rehersal and by mistake I fired my musket off prematurely. Omg he stopped the orchestra and turned to me as smoke still curled from my gun and said " I hope they teach you about guns in England" He knew my wife was a English Ballet Dancer at Salzburg Landes Theatre and I was a full time Extra in many of his opera's . Later on at the Premier Party at the Grosse Festspeil Haus he laughed it off. RIP Meister of many years ago
At 4:14 the passage with violins and flutes... how it changes after his explanation. He basically ask a simple thing. That the violins listen to the flute. Simple and effective.
I am really amazed!!! Seing the rehearsals you understand why he is one of the top conductors of all times!! Not just a conductor..A real musician!! And i don't understand why some people call him "bossy maestro"... He does what he has to do! Trying to make really good quality of music by working hard again and again is what every musician in this world should do.
I agree. He is very "German" in his precision and attention to detail. He leaves nothing to chances, unlike more "modern" artists who just try to put "nice" things together and hope to get some good effects.
Meine Mitwirkung im Orchester als Posaunist! ( mit hoher Frisur und noch schwarzen Haaren!) Mit Herbert von Karajan und den Wiener Symphonikern, Bild - Tonaufnahmen zur Produktion der 4. Symphonie von Robert Schumann (für Musikfilm - 1965), mit Regisseur Henri-Georges Clouzot, lt. internationalen Publikationen damals, als erster Musikfilm dieser Art.
the blue eyed God of Harmony!!!!! thank you so much for translation of this rare archive!!! I was trying hard watch it in one piece version without subtitles!!! and i hardly got the general idea from his expressive body movement, but your translation is more than precious!!!! exciting work!!!! and very "flexιble" cut in 7 pieces!!!
The transcendental quality of translating an idea into music and projecting it to others through sound. Learning to hone in on this transcendental quality - it goes beyond listening
Yes. He did it all the time, and it's not uncommon for conductors. He knew HUNDREDS of scores note for note and bar for bar, including massive works like Die Meistersinger and the Ring of the Niebelung.
It is just beautiful and that makes the difference from one conductor to another, some1 like karajan can make the music the way it should be heard! Thank you for posting:)
Thank you for posting. What a band and what a conductor. I didn't realise the german language could sound so beautiful. Lordy, You really have to be in a certain place to tell the leader of the Vienna Phil how to play a passage technically on the violin! The thing about GREAT conductors is that each stands like a giant on their own .... like pararell musical universes. The same passage conducted by say a Bernstein, Solti or Giulini would sound equally great but all different. Fascinating stuff.
Some comments here seems to be unaware that karajan, was a perfectionist with the recordings, so every single video recording was scripted by him, the position of the musicians, the choosing of the musicians who would appear on video, baldness and mustaches were undesirable, probably even his speech here. That being said he was still a visionary who saved classical music during post war, he is the only one responsible for the development of orchestral recording on new medias like video, television, and his work on beethoven's symphonies is simply amazing. If we had a new karajan, he would probably save, financially, today's orchestras, of course, we need new composers too, pretty much everything has been recorded, no need to do that again, we need something new and delightful.
Nope. Nope and nope. For the upteempth time. Karajan was not a Nazi. He was not a man of principle like Furtwängler who refused to become a party member.
I don't remember him refusing to be a party member, i remember to have read an article on which said that karajan actually was a member of supremacy group at his university, but then i read this article:www.overgrownpath.com/2008/09/karajan-on-boulez-stockhausen-and.html , and now i dont know what the hell to think about his personal thoughts, all i know is that during that time you were kind of obliged to support the party in order to have a career. I don't think the article puts to rest all the doubts people have about karajan, if anything he believed in stereotypes, when he says that black people, like louis armstrong, have more rhythm than europeans, so i don't know.
What a revelation! The kind of high polish and streamlined performances Karajan was able to get from the players was his keen listening and attention to detail.
Like Karajan or not but he was one of the most fascinating artists of the 20th century who reach hights of artistry only very very few can but that came with undeniable lows as well.
Whatever you think about Karajan's personality or even his sound, you can't deny he was utterly commanding and overwhelmingly charismatic. I bet if he asked these guys to play "twinkle twinkle little star" they wouldn't bat an eyelid, hahaha
Schumann is not that bad in orchestration, his orchestration doesn't have a wide range of colors like brahms and ravel, but the strings and woodwind's harmonies are incredibly beautiful
Now I understand why the Director is so important. What we can see in a theater performance is just the tip of the iceberg. All the work done before the public performance is the most important phase.
True. But what he's doing is not insisting or demanding where to play the downbeat. He's suggesting where it should be and giving the orchestra the freedom to listen to themselves as an ensemble to a achieve a good, overall musical sound.
It was Karajan's obsession with perfection and refinement that lead to a blandness in his final years. However, in the 50's and 60's he was amazing, a tour de force in the classical world. I can't think of a conductor today who could match him with many composers, not only the Germanic school but with Sibelius and Italian masters Verdi and Puccini.
Karajan mentioned rehearsing this symphony before recording this for DG. I couldn't for the life of me find any available DG commercial recording of Karajan conducting this symphony with the VPO. Certainly not from the 1960s when this film was made. Perhaps they did not record it after all? It wouldn't be until the early 70's when he did his survey of the four Schumann symphonies - but that would be with the Berlin forces.
Herbert von Karajan, wie er kongenial die Musiker instruiert diese schwere und schwermütige Sinfonie von R. Schumann zu spielen, wie fein artikuliert und präzise er aus den ausführenden Musikern das Beste herausholt immer mit feinen Verständnis für die Besonderheiten dieser Sinfonie.
His father was Greek and his mother was Slovene..... His great grandfather's surname was " ΚΑΡΑΓΙΑΝΝΗΣ"( in greek)......He changed it into "Karajan" when he went to Vienna........ The prefix "von" became part of the family name, after they were ennobled for their services by the king of Saxony........
His ancestors came from Greece, but his father and grandfather and great-grandfather were austrians. Geórgios Ioánnes Karagiánnis already changed his name to Karajan when he was ennobled by the Elector of Saxony (no king).
Say what you will about his musical interpretation,but you cannot deny he was an efficient director. Unlike some other conductors I won't name, he would communicate his intentions with clarity while still being very demanding concerning every single note. This is why fewer recording sessions, surprisingly, were needed (as compared to Celibidache, for instance). I guess this is also partly due to his authoritarian (and I mean that in a good sense) demeanor, which led people to just want to do what he asked them. I've seen too many conductors try to pull off the same thing and get laughed off by the orchestra.
Atent la toate detaliile,extrem de perfecţionist acest Karajan. Dar şi orchestra era formată din virtuoşi după felul în care răspundea cu promtitudine. Multă muncă pentru a dezveli frumosul pentru urechi.
Varese13: the intensity and discipline he imposes is very much possible with any orchestra, whether populated by "virtuosi" or not. Most orchestras need a superb technical rehearsal like this, if not always, regularly. Keep them on their toes. It's not that they can't do what he wants: it's that they haven't thought of doing it.
If anyone out there wants to understand the function of a conductor, look at this. It puts the lie to the phrase "the conductor's there just to keep the beat". His understanding of phrasing and his musicality are outstanding. You might not agree with his interpretation but if there are any young conductors viewing this clip, take careful note and learn and enjoy!
Nobody understand why I am so obsessed with this man. I am not a musician, I have never attended proper music lessons, but for me his conducting seems out of this world. Thank you so much for uploading this.
That's because he's an egotistical dimwit, and you are some hypergamous woman who is looking for a dominating egotistical man. Even though he is a short little guy!
Im not musican, but this man for sure have gift from God. so I understand you
Astute observation. As a trained musician he is one of the best!
maybe tou like the way he mixes up the mayonaise,with his,left hand
Are you a fascist, perhaps? Or maybe just Nazi-curious?
He was so sensitive and powerful at the same time...!
Karajan conducting = Pure Genius!!!
flawless divinity!!!!!
Nobody touches Karajan. He stands alone, FAR above the rest.
He is watching it all. Do not miss.
Sensitive?
@@tubaguyry3540ok
Von Karajan is my Idol since I was 12years old, now I 68 and he still is
I am studying conducting, and I have never seen anyone more inspireing than Karajan!
Simply wonderful! I had only heard Karajan's performances not his rehearsals. Clear ideas and the ability to express them.
Wow. It's amazing what Karajan hears in the music.
Wish we could see the entire rehearsal.
You can. It's filmed by his friend Clouzot, and it's on a commercial dvd.
He's mesmerizing is what he is.
I agree
this is truely amazing. This is what's called Charisma. And PASSION
It’s amazing how he emitted so much passion into his work
Michelangelo had it right when he said that trifles go to make up perfection, which is no trifle. Karajan has extraordinary spiritual insight into this music. It guides him through the musical data, like a micro-processor, flipping tiny switches on or off, so that Schumann can live and reveal his soul to us in these wonderful notes.
Right...you look at Karajan and Furtwangler and you may be lost, but the magic in their conducting styles is that they literally physically manifested before the ensemble what the piece was to be. It's so amazing to me. I strive to do the same as a choral conductor.
I was a extra in Tosca in Salzburg. I was in firing squad in the general rehersal and by mistake I fired my musket off prematurely. Omg he stopped the orchestra and turned to me as smoke still curled from my gun and said " I hope they teach you about guns in England"
He knew my wife was a English Ballet Dancer at Salzburg Landes Theatre and I was a full time Extra in many of his opera's . Later on at the Premier Party at the Grosse Festspeil Haus he laughed it off.
RIP Meister of many years ago
Wow, what a great story! Thanks for sharing and please share more!!
Interesting. I thought that if there is an actual firing squad on stage it is the job of the guy playing the officer to give the mark when to fire.
Was this at the Easter 1988 or the summer production? with Anna Tomowa Sintow as Tosca. Was there too in the production. Those were special times.
That was so cool!
indeed a great story! I live just next to the Mirabell garden and always pass by the Salzburg Landes Theatre to cross the Salzach bridge!
What this man is hearing and the effects this may cause in his brain is unbelievable...
At 4:14 the passage with violins and flutes... how it changes after his explanation. He basically ask a simple thing. That the violins listen to the flute. Simple and effective.
And to play further up so the overtones disappear
I am really amazed!!! Seing the rehearsals you understand why he is one of the top conductors of all times!! Not just a conductor..A real musician!!
And i don't understand why some people call him "bossy maestro"... He does what he has to do! Trying to make really good quality of music by working hard again and again is what every musician in this world should do.
I agree. He is very "German" in his precision and attention to detail. He leaves nothing to chances, unlike more "modern" artists who just try to put "nice" things together and hope to get some good effects.
I really admire how he worked with the orchestra, he was someone very dedicated.
perfection and majesty!
Es ist fantastisch! Ich habe diese Probe viele Male gesehen und jedes Mal bewundere ich die Arbeit mit dem Orchester dieses großartigen Musikers.
This is what perfection looks and sounds like
Phenomenal recording of rehearsal💙💙💙Every time thrilled me it great symphony and my dearest conductor💕
He definitely knows the piece exactly by heart =) Wonderful.
karajan is a genie
Meine Mitwirkung im Orchester als Posaunist! ( mit hoher Frisur und noch schwarzen Haaren!)
Mit Herbert von Karajan und den Wiener Symphonikern, Bild - Tonaufnahmen
zur Produktion der 4. Symphonie von Robert Schumann (für Musikfilm - 1965), mit Regisseur Henri-Georges Clouzot, lt. internationalen Publikationen damals, als erster Musikfilm dieser Art.
Master of the Orchestra in the 20th Century.
the blue eyed God of Harmony!!!!!
thank you so much for translation of this rare archive!!! I was trying hard watch it in one piece version without subtitles!!! and i hardly got the general idea from his expressive body movement, but your translation is more than precious!!!! exciting work!!!! and very "flexιble" cut in 7 pieces!!!
He is watching it all. Do not miss.
Perfection. This man is perfection.
We watched this rehearsal religiously back in college:) I've lost my vhs of it and was thrilled to see it again on your channel!
The transcendental quality of translating an idea into music and projecting it to others through sound. Learning to hone in on this transcendental quality - it goes beyond listening
Absolutely fascinating! Thank you so much for posting this!
karajan exige limpieza ,fuerza ,brillo tal y como lo tiene en su mente , escepcional bravo maestro para siempre.
fantastic‼️
The master at work. God love him!
I was among his intern in the eighties. Touched by an angel. Forever to my group
The greatest !!
One and only. Pure listening.
Quien lo estará viendo en este noviembre 2020. Mi admiración por siempre maestro. Gracias por compartir 🙏
genius ..he looks for the light in music!!
This is a fantastic video. I'm digging this big time.
The Mozart of Maestros
This is mesmerising.
Yes. He did it all the time, and it's not uncommon for conductors. He knew HUNDREDS of scores note for note and bar for bar, including massive works like Die Meistersinger and the Ring of the Niebelung.
Fantastic!! reahearsal, the ideas are wonderful and the concept about sound and Schumann music is very interesting and deep, The great karajan!!
truly amazing!
Brilliant! So involved.
Absolutely amazing...
He is the epitome of conducting, like no other in the world, a class for itself.
It is just beautiful and that makes the difference from one conductor to another, some1 like karajan can make the music the way it should be heard!
Thank you for posting:)
Thank you for the information.
Great Karaja !!!!!!! I'm so sorrow I can't saw him on the stage any more.....
thanks zOtx for this video-gift,I love karajan. it is wonderful
great upload, thanks!
Thank you for posting. What a band and what a conductor. I didn't realise the german language could sound so beautiful. Lordy, You really have to be in a certain place to tell the leader of the Vienna Phil how to play a passage technically on the violin! The thing about GREAT conductors is that each stands like a giant on their own .... like pararell musical universes. The same passage conducted by say a Bernstein, Solti or Giulini would sound equally great but all different. Fascinating stuff.
It's not Vienna Phil but Vienna Symphony, also a great orchestra. Just saying.
Thanks! I stand corrected!
MrPoupard Band??..
Stupid
@@trevorcox1808 You're not helping classical music much by calling MrPoupard stupid.
INOLVIDABLE
4:30 wow..
Some comments here seems to be unaware that karajan, was a perfectionist with the recordings, so every single video recording was scripted by him, the position of the musicians, the choosing of the musicians who would appear on video, baldness and mustaches were undesirable, probably even his speech here. That being said he was still a visionary who saved classical music during post war, he is the only one responsible for the development of orchestral recording on new medias like video, television, and his work on beethoven's symphonies is simply amazing. If we had a new karajan, he would probably save, financially, today's orchestras, of course, we need new composers too, pretty much everything has been recorded, no need to do that again, we need something new and delightful.
Alas, a Nazi nonetheless
@@davidmount2233 jelly brit?
Nope. Nope and nope. For the upteempth time. Karajan was not a Nazi. He was not a man of principle like Furtwängler who refused to become a party member.
I don't remember him refusing to be a party member, i remember to have read an article on which said that karajan actually was a member of supremacy group at his university, but then i read this article:www.overgrownpath.com/2008/09/karajan-on-boulez-stockhausen-and.html , and now i dont know what the hell to think about his personal thoughts, all i know is that during that time you were kind of obliged to support the party in order to have a career. I don't think the article puts to rest all the doubts people have about karajan, if anything he believed in stereotypes, when he says that black people, like louis armstrong, have more rhythm than europeans, so i don't know.
David Mount So what if he was.
I'm impressed. Gonna go look for that recording now.
Ethereal. Heavenly voice of the angels. Heard him in Berlin when I was an intern work of god
Da spürt man Hingabe ...Liebe und Perfektion!
...und man lernt viel ..manches hört man erst nachdem der Meister es erwähnt :)
Vielen Dank z0tX!
Ah... so classical music does not sound well by coincidence?
But, he was being coincident about how It was sounding like 🙃
What a revelation! The kind of high polish and streamlined performances Karajan was able to get from the players was his keen listening and attention to detail.
amazing!!
Fascinating.
Esse maestro é demais.
He tells it how it should be and he demands it in return
der genialste Dirigent aller Zeiten ❤️
Karajan: good morning
Orchestra: *skeleton sounds*
Karajan sees the music in front of his closed eyes ❤
he is able to clearly and concretely the effects he wishes to achieve thus his success
Like Karajan or not but he was one of the most fascinating artists of the 20th century who reach hights of artistry only very very few can but that came with undeniable lows as well.
Whatever you think about Karajan's personality or even his sound, you can't deny he was utterly commanding and overwhelmingly charismatic.
I bet if he asked these guys to play "twinkle twinkle little star" they wouldn't bat an eyelid, hahaha
Twinkle Twinkle Little Star is from a Mozart piano sonata….so it probably could be arranged by HVK
Dude,Karajan was not a conductor,he was a teacher,a god far above a conductor.
Schumann is not that bad in orchestration, his orchestration doesn't have a wide range of colors like brahms and ravel, but the strings and woodwind's harmonies are incredibly beautiful
this is a great video, to learn and understand clasic music.
Now I understand why the Director is so important. What we can see in a theater performance is just the tip of the iceberg. All the work done before the public performance is the most important phase.
Even I with not knowledge whatsoever of classical music can understand he's genius ... and that's saying something ....
una belleza musical
True. But what he's doing is not insisting or demanding where to play the downbeat. He's suggesting where it should be and giving the orchestra the freedom to listen to themselves as an ensemble to a achieve a good, overall musical sound.
It was Karajan's obsession with perfection and refinement that lead to a blandness in his final years. However, in the 50's and 60's he was amazing, a tour de force in the classical world. I can't think of a conductor today who could match him with many composers, not only the Germanic school but with Sibelius and Italian masters Verdi and Puccini.
what he says about flute/violins and harmonics is so true!
Beyond genius!!!!
Karajan is da man
Karajan mentioned rehearsing this symphony before recording this for DG. I couldn't for the life of me find any available DG commercial recording of Karajan conducting this symphony with the VPO. Certainly not from the 1960s when this film was made. Perhaps they did not record it after all? It wouldn't be until the early 70's when he did his survey of the four Schumann symphonies - but that would be with the Berlin forces.
ohhhh my god . unbelivable , its amazing control , if i was playing there , definitely leave the studio !!!!
I like his voice
Herbert von Karajan, wie er kongenial die Musiker instruiert diese schwere und schwermütige Sinfonie von R. Schumann zu spielen, wie fein artikuliert und präzise er aus den ausführenden Musikern das Beste herausholt immer mit feinen Verständnis für die Besonderheiten dieser Sinfonie.
His father was Greek and his mother was Slovene.....
His great grandfather's surname was " ΚΑΡΑΓΙΑΝΝΗΣ"( in greek)......He changed it into "Karajan" when he went to Vienna........
The prefix "von" became part of the family name, after they were ennobled for their services by the king of Saxony........
His ancestors came from Greece, but his father and grandfather and great-grandfather were austrians. Geórgios Ioánnes Karagiánnis already changed his name to Karajan when he was ennobled by the Elector of Saxony (no king).
@@franziskakress5263 wrong.there is a video where he explains perfectly his greek ancestry speaking in french
Like all Gods of music, Bachauer, Mitropoulos, Callas, Sgouros, Kavakos, Zappa and hundreds more
Karajan: the greatest _____
Karajan forever
true maestro
Say what you will about his musical interpretation,but you cannot deny he was an efficient director. Unlike some other conductors I won't name, he would communicate his intentions with clarity while still being very demanding concerning every single note. This is why fewer recording sessions, surprisingly, were needed (as compared to Celibidache, for instance). I guess this is also partly due to his authoritarian (and I mean that in a good sense) demeanor, which led people to just want to do what he asked them. I've seen too many conductors try to pull off the same thing and get laughed off by the orchestra.
Karajan The Great
Atent la toate detaliile,extrem de perfecţionist acest Karajan. Dar şi orchestra era formată din virtuoşi după felul în care răspundea cu promtitudine. Multă muncă pentru a dezveli frumosul pentru urechi.
Wunderbar
@ipmoic pretty sure this is the 1851 Br&H edition - edited by Clara Schumann
Thanks a lot for this video. I just wanted to ask where I cn get this footage. Is it possible actually to get it?
It’s from a DVD
großartig ¡¡¡
You stopped the video at the best moment !!!
Varese13: the intensity and discipline he imposes is very much possible with any orchestra, whether populated by "virtuosi" or not. Most orchestras need a superb technical rehearsal like this, if not always, regularly. Keep them on their toes. It's not that they can't do what he wants: it's that they haven't thought of doing it.
@RCAMPOMAS but the metronome is supposed to be 1/4 = 52 ... and he is certainly slower ..... what do you think ???
What year is this from? Really interesting stuff!