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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 เม.ย. 2023
- Hans Hartmann and Asobo's Expert Series ATR is here, how does the fairly priced regional compare to other add-ons?
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I'm certainly not expert level myself either but the more I've sat with this plane, the more I like it. I was iffy on it for my first flight or two but it's really grown on me. Price is definitely fair and I notice more depth and detail as I get more used to it. It walks that line of being just complex enough that I feel accomplished successfully operating it but not so much that I feel overwhelmed and like I need to take a course on it.
Give it a couple patches to smooth things out and it'll earn a place in my regular rotation. I fly in VR so shorter commercial flights are more my game if I'm not flying GA. I'm not interested in spending 5 hours in a headset so a quick hour or so hop is perfect and this type of plane suits that very well.
You can turn off reverse axis for the throttle in the tablet, then you can setup a keybind through asobo called "decrease throttle" that when you have throttle at 0 and press the "decrease throttle" button it will engage the reverse thrust.
Think the default button for this is f2?
@Frank Farmer
In tablet: (steps to turn off reverse axis)
1. Options Tab (top right)
2. click throttle setup (top right under options)
3. De-select Reverser Axis box "Throttle hardware has reverser axis.
[This should make it where your hardware throttle axis does push the ATR throttle into the reverse axis. Full back on my hardware throttle has the in-game plane throttle at Ground Idle (GI)
you can manipulate the placement with the RAMP(Red line), NOTCH (white line) and IDLE (think this is GI). Please note that I didn't do this but Jonathan Beckett has a guide for this part in their video's.
In Sim (to add keybind for "decrease throttle"
1. press [ESC] key on keyboard
2. select "Controls Options'
3.Your hardware should be showing at the top of the window [Keyboard, Mouse .... others]
4. select the hardware you wish to add the keybind for "decrease throttle" to
5. Select desired profile for the hardware (listed under the hardware name, use arrow keys to select), lookup how to make a new profile as there are options to duplicate them.
6. Under "SEARCH", use "SEARCH BY INPUT" by clicking it and pressing a button you would like to use for the new keybind. This should display what the button is currently configured to do (if nothing, it is good to use) (if something displays, you will need to remove the keybind unless you are okay with it working both of them)
7. How to remove existing keybind: click the blue box to the right of the "decrease throttle" option that has the name of the button you desire.
8. Click "CLEAR CURRENT INPUT" then "VALIDATE"
9. Next, Under "SEARCH", use "SEARCH BY NAME" and type in "Decrease Throttle"
10. click the blue box to the right of the "decrease throttle" option
11. Click box with "START SCANNING"
12. On your hardware, press the desired key to work with "decrease throttle" and then click "validate"
(This should make that button engage the reverse thrust when your throttle is at idle)
I think you can also just press the [F2] key on the keyboard. Not sure on that one.
Late to the party but I'm getting this plane later today, just wanted to thank you for your review.
You're just about on the same level as I am when it comes to airliners. The DHC-4 Caribou is my kind of airliner. It has radial engines, analogue gauges, and I can push my passengers out the rear door while still in flight if they annoy me!
Yeah give me radials and I'm your girl :D Modern stuff confuses me :D
I like it and it's at a good price . Good review as always 😊
There’s a ground and flight idle gate that activates automatically when you land, which is why it wanted to go into reverse when you landed. You just need to calibrate the idle position in the tablet.
Love it. Sometimes I don't want 'study', so this fits the bill. Looking forward to the odd patch occasionally.
Best
Barty
Yup I Love flying on The ATR42-600 And ATR72-600 Series of Turboprops.
Yessss the best plane. A proper machine for proper adventures.
people are being far to critical, it's a great plane
Simhangar has done a tutorial on how to set up the Bravo Throttle Quadrant with the ATR. You not only have to set it up in MSFS, you have to set it up in the ATR's throttle configurator. Thankyou for taking it out for a spin. I can't wait to do it myself.
I'll go check that out! seems useful, but that doesn't half feel like a hastle :D
The thing about calibrating the throttles is that you have to use the notch indicators that appear at the top left of the PFD to set the throttle positions and not the position of the throttles themselves to get it to work. It drove me crazy until I figured it out. And yes the reverse toggle should remain unchecked with the honeycomb bravo throttles.
I bought this for 10 pounds something so even if it has some issues I wont be to upset. I watched another youtuber who came to the conclusion expert level was a fair description but he didn't feel it was study level. This will be good enough for most simmers I should imagine. Like most add ons they'll update it and we'll continue to see improvements over time.
sorry, not buying into the whole people are saying it's not expert level so it's not. There are plenty of real pilots/vloggers that say otherwise. To each his own. Can't wait to fly it. Thanks another fun video as always.
First! 😅😊 Ps. Love ur reviews.
On the MSFS Marketplace for US $12.99 at present.
It varies if you own deluxe etc vs standard.
Also now that is on The MSFS2020 By the Absobo Team making The Planes I hope they'll work on fixing the Bugs and other problems that need to look at properly later down the line also I hope too see a Freighter Variants of the ATR72-600F'S too in The Sim also the Sound of the Pratt and Whitney Turboprops needs to be tuned properly including the Instrument Systems too Other then that Awesome Video Miss AvAngel nuff respect to all your Videos on Aviation and MSFS2020 Games and Updates also I hope to buy the MSFS2020 When I Travel even get a New Joystick too I'm FROM The Caribbean Island of Barbados so I fly on both Planes.
Great tour of the plane - really helpful to see so soon after release.
Did you notice any performance impacts compared to the other market planes?
Very similar performance to other releases. No noticable impact.
@@AvAngel thank you for the reply !
Glad you got her flying despite you have little knowledge on such plane. Hope other videos available now will help to compensate for MS not supplying a manual.
Setting up the throttles requires understanding of its position and range and same for the combined Prop RPM engine shut off functionality. Once you get this, you will not have the issues anymore with it and can enjoy the the sceneries she is flying in real world.
Another goody thanks Av. I would expect an update is imminent for this plane to improve or correct the issues you noticed and a few tutorials will help . Unfortunately fist impressions are lasting impressions and the first impressions here are mediocre at best.
Very helpful and entertaining review. One thing, try as I may, I have not found a way to have interior walk through. How do you do that?
Drone cam
You need to calibrate the throttle on the tablet. It’s pretty easy.
When the NP is below 66-70, the AC Wild generator cuts out, which is why you were getting all the warnings such as hydraulics.
Ah thanks
One thing I am not keen on is unlike eg. the included default Airbus A320 (maybe the other included ones? I don't fly airliners much) programming a flight plan from the main menu doesn't seem to work. I don't mind playing with the FMC sometimes but for those times when you just want a quick flight this is disappointing. You programme a flight plan from the main menu but it wont appear within this aircraft. We don't all want to be fiddling with an annoying FMC computer every time we want to fly. Yes it's more realistic but you don't always want this all of the time.
I could be persuaded to take this up for a spin - it's little and it has props, but I worry it's a bit too much like a modern commercial jet, and I'm a vintage GA pilot at heart
Same, its not too complex once you get used to it compared to the jets.
Im hyperventilating while standing near those H U G E turbo prop blades! POWER!
on your engine rpm selector youre supposed to put it on the auto setting. you went all the way forward to max power override thats why it was yelling at you during take off
That explains it :D
My favorite turbo prop airliner has to be the Saab 2000
@avangel What head tracker do you use? I have the Tobii 5 and it acts a bit different than what I see your head tracker doing. I seem to prefer yours to mine, but don't know what you're using.
Grassmonkey Simulations Puck :)
Loving the ATR so far!
The aero soft CRJ has the same type of weird throttle implementation. I have no idea why they decided to do it this way. I can deal with it but it’s definitely very weird. I would like to see the tablet have some adjustments to it like brightness and darkness or just being able to be turned off or removed. it’s extremely bright and blinding on night flights. There’s also no way to import flight plans either from the sim map or simbrief which is rather odd.
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Coupled with the same CRJ bugs this has, I wouldn’t be surprised if they share a bunch of code.
The woman practically spends the entire video showing only the aircraft's panel...She forgot that it's just a video in the Flight Simulator 😂
Where do flightsimmers spend 95% of their time? We usually need those instruments
I like the modelling of the aircraft, but the quirky throttle has put me off, plus other people have said there are problems with the AP. The price is really good though so I 'am tempted.
For the price its worth finding ways around the weird bits maybe.
Everyone is talking about setting up the throttles anyone know how to make it work on the Xbox controller i can’t get the throttle to get out of auto mode and it stays in taxi when I’m in the air
Well done, Av.
But, may I ask, is no one else experiencing this issue of spawning on a runway even after selecting a parking space? I started seeing this immediately after WU-12 was launched.
A couple of times recently, i've had to reload flights.
Me too...
Check where you want to spawn before you start the flight, because for some reason it can change from your selected parking slot back to the runway.
I think it's been a bug for a while. It has something to do with altering the loadout or the livery after you've set the flight plan. I think if you get your aircraft, loadout and livery all set before you add in your starting point and flight plan, the bug will stop happening. If that doesn't work, I guess you just have to double check your starting point before you start the sim.
I have and not with just the ATR but other planes as well
If you like the DC-3 you'd like the DC-6 more, just a guess
I have it, its ok, something about the dak just does it for me.
@@AvAngel There was a show in the '80s called "Airline". It's all about an ex-WW2 pilot who starts an airline with a rented DC-3. I've been meaning to grab myself a copy of the DVD set - it only lasted one season, but word on the street is that it's worth a watch.
[Edit] I just bought myself a copy. I'm a sucker for vintage aircraft.
this plane move on iddle hehehehe
… just as the real one does!
I have complex thoughts regarding this aircraft. They are as follows: "Eww, it's got an FMS in it!".
:p
Lol
Haha yep i know that feeling. 😂
i can not hear engine sound and touch down sound....!!!!!
Yeah the throttle setup is a pain in the ass.
8:10 "fuel levvers". Someone has been spending too much time with Americans or watching American telly 😁. I've lived in the US for over 30 years and I still say "leever". On the other hand, I usually call a "telly" a TV these days.
I speak fluent American, I work with them every day so my writing and spoken English has warped :D
eXPERT?
It’s what it’s called
I feel like i am saying this way to much, which may annoy some who see me comment on other places. But while I like the ATR it has way to many bugs, many of which are the exact same bugs that the CRJ has. The VNAV behaviour, the airways issues, the CRJ Simbrief file format… makes me wonder how much code was reused. Either way, the bugs are unacceptable and should not be there. I am fine with the systems depth, just not the bugs. Because when they plane doesn’t succumb to the bugs it is a lot of fun to fly. But when the bugs, especially the VNAV bugs hit, it is crippling and unreliable. Also, total lack of documentation and extremely limited and nigh on useless EFB doesn’t help matters. Also the right hand FMS being whatever the hell that is.
I Hate,loathe and detest Airliners and the only reason to have them on my sim is that a couple of world updates demand that they be installed,otherwise I would delete them in a heartbeat...................................................
Watching you spend the whole flight complaining about the power levers after failing to calibrate them was painful. Ignore the numbers on the calibration page (they aren't useful unless you are using some external tool to set up your controls) and just calibrate based on the physical position of your throttles. If you put ground idle at the bottom, notch at 65% of your lever's movement and ramp at 90%, you get a calibration that more or less matches the power levers in the cockpit.
TLDR; the throttle calibration problems are mostly user error.
Their explanations for it are lacking and my goal was to show what the average user will be faced with not an expert
@@AvAngel That's a fair answer, and my reaction is definitely colored by the fact that I have previous experience with add-ons like this and was prepared for it to need extra control setup. You genuinely seemed confused so I wasn't sure if you actually knew how to calibrate the throttles correctly and wanted to get the answer out there. That said, the default calibration is strange for a lot of controllers so I understand you having trouble with it.
they promised a freight version. nowhere in sight..........
Mhm
and they'll deliver on that promise. Patience
@@bagels377 if they will, then why is there ZERO mention of "upcoming freight version" in the release of the passenger version.
First :P
Seriously??? Isn't that a kid's game that they play on some of the other poser channels???
The config alarm was because you don’t actually use 100% of the thrust on takeoff, you have to put the thrust levers to the notch position which is about 90% of the power, there’s a mark on the throttle for this. Honey learn to fly the plane before insulting it 😂😂
I did at first, then it yelled at me :D I didn't have my prop limiter set apparently :D So no, it wasn't my throttle position 'honey'.
@@AvAngel haha in fact you need to setup the notch on the throttle with the tablet so it won’t tell at you again haha
Jeez, so many mistakes lol
Thousands, terrible, awful. Total dogwater :D
I kNew she’d be too big and bad for you to handle ..
I will blame the throttle weirdness on the landing, I'm not that bad :D
Wow thats either really bad humor or just offensive
Cringe... 😂