Hi, since there is another big update to superset since that video and a lot of development how wpuld you now rate superset plus aw ultra (and maybe the Tempo run recover repeat app) compared to Garmin for someone who mostly runs and lift weights and skis?
Got mine about 3 weeks ago I really enjoy it my favorite thing about it is the design it’s so unique and just everything you can do with it I know I can leave my phone at home and be ok battery is fantastic I can on average about 3 days with about 30% left if you don’t got one get one
How was the GPS performance? I found the Ultra 1 not to be consistent in distance, even with itself. It would read the same distance route to be a different distance almost every time I did the same route.
@@johnmanley4528 it was likely my fault because there was a period of a month and a half I didn't post any videos, so it probably pushed me way down the priority chain with anything else you are subscribed to
What I find is funny is people say "Garmin is focused on sports-science" yet the heart-rate sensor is not even at the same level as AppleWatch, I don't get it, we know their heart-rate sensor is not accurate so how can you trust the recovery metrics based on HRV ?
You don't have to touch the screen to start a work out.. if you play with those accessibility features you say are useless and ignoring, it is actually pretty easy to do without touch..
Your channel is great man, good tips and information for fitness and everything, you need to up your game on the thumbnail. Your videos are quality but not eye catching when we talk about the thumbnail, lmk if you need some thumbnails, I can help you hmu
@@wizettv3531 dude I need help in so many ways it's not even funny exclamation point thank you so much for the compliments! I have reverted back to super simple thumbnail styles and I feel good about it for now because it's all my small brain can handle worrying about, but thank you so much for the offer!
I follow trends or health-related issues rather than metrics. That was one of the reasons I switched from Epix 51 to AWU2. The garmin results didn't completely reflect how I was feeling , so rather counterproductive for me. I am now more comfortable with AWU2 because of their added value. Primarily, I'm interested in GPS and heart rate measurement from the sports features and the watch does that well.
Apple needs to step up their game with battery life and fitness data and recommendations natively. The Superset App shouldn’t be necessary. I imagine so much nice stuff with clever AI and all the data the watch and phone collects… apple health could be such a game changer.
I woke up this morning feeling fresh as dewey grass in spring. But my Garmin decided my body battery is 9/100. So I did good threshold run to give the stupid tech the 🖕🏽
I've been there! Good thing you got out. But I will say in testing all these watches the body battery does reveal and expose super accurately things going on physiologically, for me at least.
@@fitgearhunter I guess we’ll see if I get sick in the next day or two lol. Personally I think it’s a glitch in the system. I don’t sleep with the watch (use apple watch instead bc I heard its more accurate) so I typically turn it off before bed. But last night it stayed on the charger all night. Perhaps it somehow kept thinking I was wearing it (accidentally paird with the coros hr monitor while off? That has happened to me before already..) and the battery just kept depleting all night (9 is the lowest I ever seen, I typically wake up at around 70 and by bedtime i’m around 20) so yeah, I suspect the watch just got confused. 97 sleep score and “superb” waking HRV according to auto sleep. So yeah, there’s a limit how much I’ll trust these little gadgets on my wrist.
I just use Siri to start and stop workouts, but I also miss the buttons and battery life so I'm going to sell my AWU2 and buy a Garmin Fenix 7X PRO sapphire.
What an odd review. The flashlight being something of significant importance? Hobbling together third party apps to get what you want. Any technically competent person would be able to configure the device for their own use. Not a big deal. In fact, that kind of flexibility is one of the main features of these sorts of watches. So, dinging the watch because you don't want to deal with third party applications misses the point. I have an Ultra 2 and I think it is the most impressive electronic device I've ever had. The ability of the watch to integrate into my iPhone's functionality is a great feature. The Ultra is vastly more capable and sophisticated than any Garmin product.
Thank you for the feedback! Yes I almost always say that this channel is exclusively for testing and tracking devices for higher-level training and sports related endeavors, so that's always the vantage point. I say it so much that I sometimes forget that it needs to be said every review! Regarding the cobbling together of third-party apps, unfortunately that is a very felt sentiment amongst many People, especially in the sports training community - the cobbling together of the third-party apps is not abundantly apparent, and there are a wide variety of nuance differences and value differences and usefulness differences, etc.. And that's where the Apple Watch in general falls short relative to Garmin. Like I said my original review for the Apple Watch Ultra whenever it came out, as good of a smart watch as the Apple Watch is, and it is the best, is how good as a sports and training watch that Garmin is, and it is the best.
I just returned the Ultra 2 and now thinking I should have tried this app! I find compared to my Epix Pro 51mm that the WU2 is useless. Athlytic was so much easier to reach sleep and recovery goals that I questioned its usefulness and that was probably all dependent on the HRV. No idea why Apple can't nail HRV...They are so slow!
Completely agree! It makes no sense that Apple can't add the HRV tracking in full minute by minute or every five minutes. at all times throughout the day, but I guess they don't really check heart rate consistently either. They should make that an available option, to be able to turn on HRV tracking for at least every five minutes all day. And yes the app really is just so clean and well done that it definitely made an impact on how I felt about the usefulness of the Apple Watch in general as a solution.
Yes but they need to make HRV tracking a real thing. At the end of the day you have to actually run with a hack that doesn't even provide complete accuracy, but just enough minimal accuracy to make use
I've enjoyed both superset and athlytic. I felt the same way initially about athlytic but the longer I have let it collect data the more accurate it has become. Superset was pretty accurate right out of the gate though. It is still slightly annoying to match all of the features of a Garmin you need at least 3 or 4 different third party apps and there is still some stuff you just don't get.
I like these new outside walk' n talks!
Thank you! I very much do, too.
Just finding you. Thanks for the info. I’ll be ordering my AWU2 today. Are you in the Mississippi Delta? Looks like familiar ground.
Hi,
since there is another big update to superset since that video and a lot of development how wpuld you now rate superset plus aw ultra (and maybe the Tempo run recover repeat app) compared to Garmin for someone who mostly runs and lift weights and skis?
It can't replace with Garmin can do natively, but it is the end all be all app for Apple Watch users, that's for sure.
Superset or Athlytic? Which one do you find better?
@@jonnyc8208 bevel/superset is far superior to me!
Outdoor app helps me alot
Got mine about 3 weeks ago I really enjoy it my favorite thing about it is the design it’s so unique and just everything you can do with it I know I can leave my phone at home and be ok battery is fantastic I can on average about 3 days with about 30% left if you don’t got one get one
For me is to bulky and don't seats ok on the wrist as rounded watch ... and the weight feels wired when i do run
How was the GPS performance? I found the Ultra 1 not to be consistent in distance, even with itself. It would read the same distance route to be a different distance almost every time I did the same route.
the real question is did you find any morel mushrooms oh and i love superset and my apple ultra v1 and also the venu3
Yep! And had to go mushroom free this time haha
Just got my Ultra 2 and looking for a good app to watch all training/recovery info, awesome timing! Thanks 🙏
So glad to help! It definitely made a big difference for me and my use of the Apple Watch
athlytic app and work outdoors are the best 2 I use.
Welcome back and where have you been? I have not seen one of your postings in a while. I’ll check out superset.
Hey! I'm not sure but maybe your settings changed because I think I've done five or so videos in the last month or so
@@fitgearhunter Really? Whoa. I subscribe to your channel. I’ll look into it!
@@johnmanley4528 it was likely my fault because there was a period of a month and a half I didn't post any videos, so it probably pushed me way down the priority chain with anything else you are subscribed to
@@fitgearhunter Ah. The algorithm.
What I find is funny is people say "Garmin is focused on sports-science" yet the heart-rate sensor is not even at the same level as AppleWatch, I don't get it, we know their heart-rate sensor is not accurate so how can you trust the recovery metrics based on HRV ?
You don't have to touch the screen to start a work out.. if you play with those accessibility features you say are useless and ignoring, it is actually pretty easy to do without touch..
Your channel is great man, good tips and information for fitness and everything, you need to up your game on the thumbnail. Your videos are quality but not eye catching when we talk about the thumbnail, lmk if you need some thumbnails, I can help you hmu
@@wizettv3531 dude I need help in so many ways it's not even funny exclamation point thank you so much for the compliments! I have reverted back to super simple thumbnail styles and I feel good about it for now because it's all my small brain can handle worrying about, but thank you so much for the offer!
I follow trends or health-related issues rather than metrics. That was one of the reasons I switched from Epix 51 to AWU2. The garmin results didn't completely reflect how I was feeling , so rather counterproductive for me. I am now more comfortable with AWU2 because of their added value. Primarily, I'm interested in GPS and heart rate measurement from the sports features and the watch does that well.
Yes I can see that - it def does those two things well! And is awesome on a bunch of fronts.
If you are simply biased against Apple products, just state that at the beginning of the review.
Apple needs to step up their game with battery life and fitness data and recommendations natively. The Superset App shouldn’t be necessary. I imagine so much nice stuff with clever AI and all the data the watch and phone collects… apple health could be such a game changer.
Yes totally. Seems such an obvious move for them to make but I still doubt they are going to
I woke up this morning feeling fresh as dewey grass in spring. But my Garmin decided my body battery is 9/100. So I did good threshold run to give the stupid tech the 🖕🏽
I've been there! Good thing you got out. But I will say in testing all these watches the body battery does reveal and expose super accurately things going on physiologically, for me at least.
@@fitgearhunter I guess we’ll see if I get sick in the next day or two lol. Personally I think it’s a glitch in the system. I don’t sleep with the watch (use apple watch instead bc I heard its more accurate) so I typically turn it off before bed. But last night it stayed on the charger all night. Perhaps it somehow kept thinking I was wearing it (accidentally paird with the coros hr monitor while off? That has happened to me before already..) and the battery just kept depleting all night (9 is the lowest I ever seen, I typically wake up at around 70 and by bedtime i’m around 20) so yeah, I suspect the watch just got confused. 97 sleep score and “superb” waking HRV according to auto sleep. So yeah, there’s a limit how much I’ll trust these little gadgets on my wrist.
@@fitgearhunter now my body battery is showing a 5 and telling me to rest, but I literally feel fine! I’m.l ffffiiiiiinnneeeeee (ross geller voice)
Garmin is the worst. It’s cycling tech is awful too
@@warrenvazquez not just garmin. All the sport watches suck at this point in time. They have such a looooonnggg way to go.
Not viable enough imo because hrv is always off for me. If it wasn’t for that, then yeah, it’s good. But I’m still using ultra+oura
Great idea. A few friends do the same and input Oura HRV nightly number into apple health to use other apps.
@@fitgearhunter Yes! Plus there are someshorcuts that can do that for you automatically.
I just use Siri to start and stop workouts, but I also miss the buttons and battery life so I'm going to sell my AWU2 and buy a Garmin Fenix 7X PRO sapphire.
If I was you I would buy Garmin epix gen 2. You will miss the brightness the Apple Watch has, if you go for the Fenix.
What an odd review. The flashlight being something of significant importance? Hobbling together third party apps to get what you want. Any technically competent person would be able to configure the device for their own use. Not a big deal. In fact, that kind of flexibility is one of the main features of these sorts of watches. So, dinging the watch because you don't want to deal with third party applications misses the point. I have an Ultra 2 and I think it is the most impressive electronic device I've ever had. The ability of the watch to integrate into my iPhone's functionality is a great feature. The Ultra is vastly more capable and sophisticated than any Garmin product.
Thank you for the feedback! Yes I almost always say that this channel is exclusively for testing and tracking devices for higher-level training and sports related endeavors, so that's always the vantage point. I say it so much that I sometimes forget that it needs to be said every review! Regarding the cobbling together of third-party apps, unfortunately that is a very felt sentiment amongst many People, especially in the sports training community - the cobbling together of the third-party apps is not abundantly apparent, and there are a wide variety of nuance differences and value differences and usefulness differences, etc.. And that's where the Apple Watch in general falls short relative to Garmin. Like I said my original review for the Apple Watch Ultra whenever it came out, as good of a smart watch as the Apple Watch is, and it is the best, is how good as a sports and training watch that Garmin is, and it is the best.
No workout button? Yes it has.
Edit* Physical button config, or lift your wrist «start workout»
I just returned the Ultra 2 and now thinking I should have tried this app! I find compared to my Epix Pro 51mm that the WU2 is useless. Athlytic was so much easier to reach sleep and recovery goals that I questioned its usefulness and that was probably all dependent on the HRV. No idea why Apple can't nail HRV...They are so slow!
Completely agree! It makes no sense that Apple can't add the HRV tracking in full minute by minute or every five minutes. at all times throughout the day, but I guess they don't really check heart rate consistently either. They should make that an available option, to be able to turn on HRV tracking for at least every five minutes all day.
And yes the app really is just so clean and well done that it definitely made an impact on how I felt about the usefulness of the Apple Watch in general as a solution.
Apple is really taking it's hands off the wheel and letting 3rd party developers make it a competent device
Yes but they need to make HRV tracking a real thing. At the end of the day you have to actually run with a hack that doesn't even provide complete accuracy, but just enough minimal accuracy to make use
I've enjoyed both superset and athlytic. I felt the same way initially about athlytic but the longer I have let it collect data the more accurate it has become. Superset was pretty accurate right out of the gate though. It is still slightly annoying to match all of the features of a Garmin you need at least 3 or 4 different third party apps and there is still some stuff you just don't get.
Mate you can just say “ seri start walking workout”
Why don’t you just say “Siri” start a workout?
That's why that i’m a forerunner 965 fan, don’t need to touch the screen
Totally!