Apple Watch Ultra 2 DISASTER - Apple vs Garmin

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  • @erikpalmer502
    @erikpalmer502 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Great video. I can strongly relate to this. I’m an apple fanboy who’s deep in their eco system but the Apple Watch just mimics the iPhone. I didn’t buy the ultra, instead I bought the Garmin Instinct 2 solar and I love it!

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My feelings exactly. Thanks for the comment. 👌

    • @lagman7
      @lagman7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly the same. Just bought the instinct 2x and boy what a relief after using an apple watch for the past 5 yrs.

    • @datdudeinred
      @datdudeinred ปีที่แล้ว

      That's why I never got myself fully into their ecosystem. I tried everything they make but at different times. Hate their iphones too restricted os no file system, no settings for camera app in the app, etc hate ipados for same reasons. Their macs are great but too expensive for the hardware especially the screens.

  • @stuartbell3103
    @stuartbell3103 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Brilliant video. Felt like I was there. Well done.

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Stuart. I know my videos are a bit naff but they’re genuine. 🙏👍

  • @MrJun909
    @MrJun909 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Your video is as raw as it gets and deserves more views. What a revelation considering Apple markets this watch in their ads under similar conditions.

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for watching and your comments. My channel is only small and not a big following but I love making the videos. So I’ll carry on regardless 😂. Agreed, I was expecting more from the navigation side but the battery was expected. I could cope with carrying a charging solution if everything else worked as I’d hoped. Thanks again. 👍

  • @EricKummert
    @EricKummert ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have the Garmin Fenix 6X Pro and the original Apple Ultra Watch. I am only a day hiker. I use Workoutdoors app (small one time fee) and download offline maps and the Ultra watch works well.
    Garmin always wins on battery life and preloaded maps. The Apple Ultra is my daily driver as it has the cellular calls, etc. It all depends on your application as to which watch you will use.

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Totally agree. The Apple Watch is a much better everyday device and already miss some of its features but too much of a sacrifice for my occasional adventures. I can’t justify owning both. Maybe if my channel was better and more successful, I could afford both 🤣🤣🤣. Thanks for the comments. 🙏👍

  • @OtterJohn667
    @OtterJohn667 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really want to like the Ultra, but I've been a die-hard Garmin user since 2006. I've had their watches/devices save my bacon while out in the back country several times. I literally trust them with my life. Not sure I could do that with the Ultra.
    Currently using an Epix (gen2) Pro 47mm and love it. :)

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Totally agree. Apple Watch Ultra 2 is a good watch, just not for us 👌

  • @stanmakowski1985
    @stanmakowski1985 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is such a fantastic video. I also am so deep into the Apple eco-system, everything I own is Apple except for my watch, I recently upgraded to the Garmin EpixPro 51mm from the 6XPro and couldn't be happier, love the Amoled screen and I get 20 plus day on a charge with hour long gps runs 3-5 days a week. One of the things most people knock The Ultra for is battery life, for this video battery life is the least of things to be concerned about. This just shows how far behind and how far Apple has to go. I was really hoping for something big in the Ultra2 and was going to give it a shot. Well, I can honestly say the Apple watch Ultra has a really long way to go before it can truly be called Ultra. Thanks for a great video and for making it through those conditions.

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for watching and commenting. I still think the AWU2 has its place, just not on MY wrist. Glad you also love the Garmin experience. 👍

  • @DieHaie07
    @DieHaie07 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Good video and thanks for sharing your experience. However, I don't think that Apple Maps should ever be used to navigate off the beaten path. It is good for urban centers, but as soon as you go on any trail it becomes useless - on the phone as well. Are there no other apps that you could have loaded onto your AWU to help you navigate while hiking? Would be great to see a comparison

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi, there possibly is but I wanted to compare the ‘out of the box’ native apps. I had a quick look for other apps before I set off but they were chargeable additions. If I looked a bit harder and did some research I may have found something. As the battery life on the watch and phone weren’t up to more than a days hiking, it isn’t for me. The watch has already been returned and for now I’m sticking with my old Garmin. The AWU is a great piece of kit and beats the Garmin hands down for day to day functionality, it was just too much of a compromise for my needs out in the wild. Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍

    • @keithmoorechannel
      @keithmoorechannel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@amateurexplorer809I use both. Ultra for day to day and easy workouts like gym or walks. Fenix 6X for ‘real’ sports.

    • @mseeberg
      @mseeberg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Workoutdoors is a massive game changer for me, it would also be worth it if they charged 100 dollars for the app. If you count out battery life and some extra training plan advices, it brings a full Garmin to your AWU - with more customization options and a better smart phone connection.

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s worth knowing. I may give both brands serious consideration when Garmin releases their next iteration and do some full-on research. Thanks.

    • @wojciechpatalas6660
      @wojciechpatalas6660 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am using app called Footpath which is quite good in terrain. But it is not free and it is absolute shame and corporate greed to not support free offline topographic maps on watch which supposed to be outdoor tool.

  • @LKimuraC
    @LKimuraC 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Casual use when you are sitting down with plenty of time - Apple watch
    When you are engaging in specific activities and want to look into specific info quick and easy - Garmin watch

  • @TheDude-m2n
    @TheDude-m2n ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice. I have both. Series 7 Graphite but for hikes I’ve got the Fenix 7 Pro Sapphire

  • @matthewpaulden9604
    @matthewpaulden9604 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for video …returned my Ultra 2 yesterday …didn’t like it at all (Apple fan as well) this video only highlighted one of the main drawbacks of it 👍

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s for watching, I really want to love the watch but it’s too much of a compromise. I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels that. Cheers.

  • @benluff6079
    @benluff6079 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Trying to fiddle around with an Apple touchscreen in the wind and rain looks like a nightmare.
    Irrespective of the availability better third party offline apps for Apple, the robustness of the Garmin and the use of buttons rather than screen gives it the win. Looks simple; does the job

  • @eddieknight2202
    @eddieknight2202 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video just ordered the garmin enduro 2

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent. I need to start looking at the Garmin range to see what they have now. Mines an old model now and feel I’m missing out 😂

  • @paulguy2545
    @paulguy2545 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s pretty obvious Garmin have been in the Mountaineering & Hyking game longer than Apple have, judging by this and many similar videos I’ve seen. Hopefully Apple will be able to address the shortcomings in future watchOS Updates and models.

  • @davidbraswell1481
    @davidbraswell1481 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    anyways most people need classes on how to properly use the AWU1 and 2

  • @trumptman
    @trumptman ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. If you had used the Garmin for the entire hike it should always have an navigate back to start option or if you make the start a saved waypoint it can get you there. Just trying to be helpful. One other feature you inadvertently highlighted on the Garmin is the ability to give you an elevation profile. I didn't have my watch with me once and inadvertently led my teens on a hiking path that was only quarter mile longer but didn't realize it doubled the elevation to 3400ft gained vs 1700ft gained. This is important stuff to know when you are out there hiking.

  • @UrbanArmed
    @UrbanArmed ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoyed your video, I do a lot of mountain biking, hiking, running camping and overlanding. I went from a Garmin Instinct Tactical to the Apple Watch ultra. My hope was that it would replace the need for a Garmin watch (I still usually bring my phone and a Garmin Inreach Mini) and let me tell you, the AWU was such a disappointment for when I have no service in the mountains of Colorado and trying to navigate. I tried other apps like "Work Outdoors" but was annoyed about new additional monthly subscriptions. Well, not long ago I bought the Garmin Epix Pro 51mm and yes the AWU is a better "smart watch" for sure for everyday tasks but I will never rely sole on AWU when I'm off-grid, Garmin all the way.

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish other commenters had such an honest opinion of the AWU2. I agree entirely with your points. Thank you so much for watching and commenting. 👍. Safe hiking.

  • @brompterdam
    @brompterdam ปีที่แล้ว

    Your video saved my hard earned money! I really want a replacement for my Garmin Venu SQ that replaced my Garmin Fenix 3HR. Watching reviews over reviews these past week and 2 things really bothered me...Battery life and Navigation. Sure they might able to fixed the Navigation issue by software update but they will not able to escape the Battery Life Issue. Thanks for sharing this real world scenario video!

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the comments. I’m glad it was of some use to you. 👍

  • @samueldorinparvu3898
    @samueldorinparvu3898 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The best and sincerely compare video the best video

  • @davidbraswell1481
    @davidbraswell1481 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love all my watches, but in town I absolutely love my AWU 1 and 2 and when I am out in the woods hunting or anything camping off grid is my Garmin 965 but I still carry my AWU I wear one on either wrist people look at me funny sometimes, but I really don't care. cool video but battery life has never bothered me on the AWU 1 or 2 I always have a way to charge not like a battery bank weights 50 lbs. or nothing but folks act like they just can't carry a way to charge anything IMHO that is rediculous.

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree with you. Charging isn’t a big issue except when you’re wearing it 🤣. The AWU is a far more impressive piece of kit for everyday life, hands down. I’m not in a financial position to be able own both. I was going to sell the Garmin to soften the blow of buying the AWU2, but it just wasn’t right for my needs.
      Thanks for commenting 👍

  • @ryanw8664
    @ryanw8664 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching this was eye-opening and very instructive. If you're looking for an out-of-the-box solution, the AWU clearly isn't it! However, I would love to see a followup video where you test the AWU using apps like WorkOutDoors, Footpath, etc. to see if they can bridge the gap. I appreciate your conviction that additional purchases or subscriptions should not be necessary. However, let's acknowledge that Apple users are accustomed to investing in apps that maximize the functionality of their Apple products. Your stance may inadvertently dismiss a substantial portion of the audience. For a significant number of us, having a versatile, all-in-one smartwatch that is also good enough for hiking/trekking is the ultimate goal. In these scenarios, the convenience of using a third-party app along with a small backup charger can be preferable to shelling out $1000 for a specialized Garmin device that serves only one purpose. Give it some thought!

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Ryan, thanks for the comments. I’m certainly not disagreeing with your points about how versatile the AWU2 is day to day but the latest Garmin range that cost similar money to the AWU2 isn’t just a navigator. It’s definitely more geared towards health, fitness and travel but they have moved on considerably and will do a lot of things more. Again, if you’re a casual camper/hiker, the AWU2 is sufficient for most especially with the addition of 3rd party app but I would rather trust my old Garmin than Apple’s nearest and newest equivalent for the scenario I found myself in. I’ve returned the AWU2 now so I won’t be able to do any follow ups 😩. Thanks for taking the time for watching and commenting. All feedback (within reason 🤣) is welcomed. Take care.

    • @ryanw8664
      @ryanw8664 ปีที่แล้ว

      @amateurexplorer809 I appreciate your reply. If I were in an extreme situation such as yours, I would definitely want the Garmin on my wrist! Admittedly, I am more of a casual hiker. I totally get that it's more of a headache researching other apps and such, and it shouldn't be necessary. Considering the marketing, the AWU should be able to do what the Garmin did without needing outside apps. Still, if you ever get an AW3/4 or whatever in the future, I would still be interested in seeing if any 3rd party apps could help bridge the gap in more extreme situations. We all use apps with our iPhones to get the most out of them, so I think it would be informative and realistic to make them part of the equation as well. I also think such a video would get a lot of eyeballs considering the number of Apple users out there 😉. Regardless, your video was very helpful in showing how utterly useless the AWU is out of the box and certainly cuts through Apple's marketing bologna. I actually sent Apple feedback with a link to your video as something they can learn from! Just my 2 cents, hopefully within reason! Once again, great video.

  • @gdbryan
    @gdbryan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Was considering buying the ultra, but a total fail for apple navigation.

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Bryan, it’s pretty much a great watch for everything else (except battery life) just not for off the beaten track navigation . I trust my Garmin kit with my life, literally. Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍

  • @keithmoehring144
    @keithmoehring144 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'll pass on the Apple Ultra, Not so Ultra after all. Battery Life is horrible. Waiting on the Fenix 8 Pro next year

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That will be interesting. I’ve not seen any any it yet but hope they nail it 😁. Thanks for commenting. 👍

  • @NAW32Nicoisme
    @NAW32Nicoisme ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video 👍

  • @owlley
    @owlley 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if you had used the work outdoors app it would have worked. apple want you to use the App Store. different concept. I get how frustrating this is though and it's ridiculously overpriced considering the battery life. I have a Garmin because I have to have one for long trips. I would prefer an Apple Watch with a better battery. thanks for this great video.

  • @30mattdavies
    @30mattdavies 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great upload! So I’m an Apple fan boy. iPhone/Mac and iPad. The kids and wife all use Apple and wouldn’t consider android…. But… my Apple Watch Ultra 2 is going back for an epix pro 51mm sapphire. The Apple Watch definately has its place, but for me it’s just a phone and messenger extension with some firness capabilities. It used to be that the Apple Watch had best in class optical hr tracking, but the new gen 5 sensor on garmin is v good, so for me- no place on my wrist.

  • @robifleming
    @robifleming ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow!! Garmin will save you. Apple will abandon you.

  • @bluetoof
    @bluetoof ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Exactly the comparison I was looking for. Thank you so much!I still can’t believe that such a simple thing like navigation for hiking is so difficult for the Apple Watch Ultra. Same goes for sending a rate to a cycling computer. I‘d like to switch to the Apple Watch but just those two features will probably make me stick with my Fenix 6S Pro.

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As pointed out by other viewers, there may be 3rd party apps available for mapping but my other concern is its reliance on being connected to an iPhone for functionality. The Apple Watch would suit most people and I’m not a hater in anyway, just no good for me. Thanks for viewing and commenting, much appreciated 🙏👌👍. Garmin for me 🙌.

  • @TheZanshen
    @TheZanshen ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I changed my apple watch 7 to the Garmin epix gen 2 and will not go back.

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m still looking to upgrade my watch, but not sure which is best. Epix or Fenix? Thanks for commenting 👍.

  • @lupeguevara9685
    @lupeguevara9685 ปีที่แล้ว

    It does have cellular service

  • @mortenvinther8940
    @mortenvinther8940 ปีที่แล้ว

    why are we comparing 2023 tech vs 2019 tech? Compare with the fenix 7 as it has a lot more features

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว

      That will be my next purchase when I can afford it (donations welcome 😂). The video was to show that just because the AWU2 is brand new, is it better for everyone to upgrade? In my case, the old technology shone through. Thanks for the comment 👍

  • @fistofsteel85
    @fistofsteel85 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol makes me want to return mine and get a garmin

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว

      The AWU is an awesome bit of kit. It’s just for everyone, just most 😂

  • @luke-ve8jb
    @luke-ve8jb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m considering returning mine, if Apple sort proper offline Topo maps, more customisation to their workout fields and ability to load routes then I think they will have cracked it ….
    I can deal with 1-2 days battery life tbh

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, I do think my usage is not as common as most, so for what it can actually do, it’s a great watch, even the battery life wouldn’t be a massive problem for 80% of the time. Just not great for my needs.

    • @Eric-W0EDG
      @Eric-W0EDG 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah the Apple Watch Ultra mapping capabilities are not even close to what I was expecting. I left Garmin for the AW Ultra but it just has not been meeting my needs so I picked up an Epix this week while they are on sale.

  • @kristianpersson7127
    @kristianpersson7127 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video 👍.

  • @halcyonx1713
    @halcyonx1713 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Apple Ultra- Cool concept; bad execution.

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Has great potential and does plenty of things better than the Garmin, just not the important stuff to me. Thanks for commenting. 👍

  • @johneyjoseph89
    @johneyjoseph89 ปีที่แล้ว

    Use some windshield on the mic man.

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know, I’m sorry about the awful sound. I’ve just had the new Rode Wireless Pro delivered today so hopefully that’s the end of poor quality audio 😂😂

  • @zo4712
    @zo4712 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry, but this seems to be contradictory information. The APU can perform without being tethered to the phone, it just uses more battery power to find a GPS/CELL signal, which is partly why the phone tether is ideal in this instance. The Garmin, unlike the APU, is built specially for this function and does not have dozens of other background processes running simultaneously, or a backlit, color, tft screen. They are similar products with similar features. One was designed for that specific task, while the other performs that task as part of a suite of functions and capabilities. Not an “Apples-to-Apples” (pardon the pun) comparison.

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, which part is contradictory? I stated in the video that the AWU2 can work on its own without the phones connection. The Garmin doesn’t just work as a navigator, it has smart watch features, download music to it and listen on Bluetooth headphones, use it to pay for your groceries (Garmin Pay), workout instructor, sun and moon phases, camera remote, sea tides calculator,I use the ballistic calculator for when I’m rifle shooting etc etc. so yes, there are different. That’s why I did a comparison. If they were the same, why would I do a comparison video? The point of the video was to make people aware of both watch’s abilities in the situation and environment I was in, nothing else. I hope you enjoyed the video for what it is, a rather poorly put together film, which I thoroughly enjoyed making and wanted to share. All the best and thanks for commenting 😁👍

    • @idntrmmbr5321
      @idntrmmbr5321 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Apple says: th-cam.com/video/24Z2YPq2zBg/w-d-xo.html

  • @derekmatthews1080
    @derekmatthews1080 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    why would you rely on apple maps only an idiot would everyone has a third party dedicated app
    os , outdooractive etc
    i agree if your not a day hiker use a garmin but the ultra isn't only a activity watch
    apart from that 🙌🙌 to your channel

    • @amateurexplorer809
      @amateurexplorer809  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The AWU2 is an awesome bit of kit and will outdo the Garmin in many aspects. I wanted to review them out of the box to see how they compare. I did state that there would be additional 3rd party software that would probably do a better job than the native app, but I didn’t do much research on these as the ones I looked at were chargeable. After £800 for the watch, I didn’t expect to pay additionally for maps. Again, the AWU is a great bit of kit, it’s just not for everyone. Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍