Excellent work ZRock! Learned somethings even with 1.5k hours with slime :) Some little notes I'd add for new users to help with things I ran into --- Tracker Rotation --- Before running body proportion calibration (And every time I put slimes on) I recommend checking your trackers are aligned. With slime it's very important for the trackers to be rotated correctly, or for example when you lift your leg it'll lift to the side rather then straight. My calibration method: For chest / hip eyeball them and set straight, for thighs while standing lift knee to 90 degrees (as straight up as you can to avoid ankle rotation throwing off your thigh rotation) and touch with your controller. If it's off to the side of your controller, rotate it a little, I-Pose and do a full reset, repeat until accurate. For ankles I usually stand on one leg and point the other straight at about a 45 degree ankle from my hip and lay my controller on my thigh and check that my leg is straight. Not the most accurate way for ankle, a better way is probably to grab your foot behind your back or to the side and check it lines up with your controller, or put your foot on a chair and tilt your knee to the side with your controller touching your foot. Ankle affects your lower leg so you want a movement that angles your knee to check it's rotated correctly. Once you are used to it and understand it you can get that rotation calibration down to under the time it takes to boot up VRChat. --- Other little things --- When I go to do FBT calibration in VRChat I click calibrate, and while T-Posing I do a full tracker reset just before clicking in my triggers so I know every time I do a full reset in slime my avatar perfectly lines up with that reset and that there is no drift throwing off VRChat's calibration. If when you sit your legs cross it's likely your trackers are too high on your thighs. As you sit down the upper part of your thigh rotates inwards pulling the tracker with it, this results in your legs crossing. To avoid this slide your tracker further down, above the knee is the best spot. For me I can't stand the tracker there, it's most comfy wayyy up on my thighs for me so I just do a quick reset with my legs pointing out in front of me when I sit down. You could also try mounting your thigh trackers on the outside of your thighs to minimize it but I haven't tried that yet and probably won't since I lay on my side alot. Sometimes tracking funkiness isn't actually slime, it's your avatar or VRChat's IK! Alot of times I thoguht my tracking was wonky it was actually the IK of my avatar / VRChat or Chillout or whatever platform I was on. A quick check is to click your steam menu button so you can visually see your actual trackers. If they line up with your body but your avatar is doing something funky it's a problem with your avatar or VRChat's IK. Either due to differences in your avatar's body length proportions, or the way it's IK was set up. --- Welcome to slime! --- I've been in the slime community on and off for a few years, I started with 6 cell phones as my tackers for a few hundred hours before building a DIY beginner 6050 set, and now almost done building a BNO set of trackers. The community is fantastic and will help with any issues you run into, the software is always getting better, and it's just so fun to have full body, enjoy your trackers!
I'm so glad someone wrote this so I didn't have to since, for the longest time, I thought the problem was slimeVR until I finally learned that it was problems with the avatar. also, for the knee thigh trackers, I find there are some very slight benefits when it's closer to the knee, as you said, as well as having the slightest amount of movement toward the inner thigh instead of being straight on forward. One more thing I would like to add is if you do have feet trackers, getting that mounting position spot on is hard, and if you do get it wrong, sitting and lying down can be very bad.
ZRock you well.... rock, I have had my custom built slimes for a few months now and they never seemed to work right and I THOUGHT everything looked good in the software. my tracking in game was meh at best. Well after following this video my tracking is so much better I can even sit crisscross. I am so excited to use my slimes again I almost wrote it off as me having just made them wrong. so thank you for the amazing video guide. I'm sure you'll keep making so many more amazing videos that continue to help the slime community.
The slime team unintentionally made the best marketing possible just by the wait times. Only been like 2 months and I'm probably not even halfway to get mine but it's drove me crazy enough that I'm no longer happy getting the 5+1 set and I've requested the 7+3 thanks to obsessing and watching videos like this months before I can put it into practice. I am DAMN jealous of everyone who has theirs showing them off.
I don't have the money for it, I'm not trying to brag that I'm getting a good set because it's a bad idea for me to do that but it's really cool so I am doing anyway.
Well they JUST upgraded my order after about 3 days and I watched $150 + a currency exchange fee leave my bank account but it's worth, took it off my mind and I'm just excited for it now :)
@@Soubifloof Yep. I eventually chose a few hundred sent into my bank instead of slimes to my door but it's real exciting and real hard to give it up when you see people so much more present in the environment in vrchat. I ofc hold nothing against the slime team and I intend to order a set again when it won't mean I might go through menopause in exchange. (I will not elaborate because it's way funnier that way)
@@santakiller2gt489 Only recently came to realise I'm getting basically 5k in a few days but I have to live off that for a while. You can't just up and make me want them again now lol no fair I've even resisted PC upgrades. Give me like 2 weeks having the money and I'll just say yes, FBT seems to be a real weak spot for me.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS GUIDE. I've had my DIY trackers for awhile now and I just couldn't figure out how to get them to behave properly like others have, especially since I went for the BNO085s. The information on your video helped tremendously. You are amazing for doing this work! My happiness with SlimeVR has increased x10-fold.
If you have any further problems, Zrocks is very generous and takes time on certain days to plan events on the discord in vrchat to help people get their trackers set up.
Thank you, this is what I mean when I need a hand holding guide, because all these months no matter how many guides I was told told to read the way I interpreted and was doing mount reset and body proportions, was wrong!!!, I'm dumb and need this level of hand holding thank you.
This is fantastic! For the last year I've been using one tracker (OwoTrackVR on my phone) so I was familiar with some of SlimeVR's features, but I recently got 6-point FBT and this video guide is exactly what I needed! You're making me want to upgrade to more points of tracking already... I want those elbows so I can pole dance, dang it! I might get a new phone soon, and if I do, I'll use that and my old phone to get that 8-point tracking I want for club dancing! I'm hoping to use one phone as a chest tracker and another as a waist tracker, to keep my lightweight trackers for the points that move more drastically. From your explanation of the rest of the tracking points, I think that 8-point setup will be all I really need, unless I want to get foot trackers eventually. Thanks a ton for all the info! This is one of the most helpful channels I've found since getting into FBT!
Really appreciate the work you do helping us get the best from our slimes. Its a fantastic system, my tracking has benifited greatly from your efforts and knowledge. Thankyou.
Using slime is a blessing and a curse at times with how specific everything can be. Thank you for your videos, they're very insightful in guiding users. My tracking is good for the most part. besides the hip and feet floating at times. I'm not sure why. Is there something I should change specifically? Also if you squat lower than seen here during calibration and during body measurement-will it result in poorer results comparatively?
This did indeed make a huge difference even just the mounting positions, thanks! For me the auto alignment didn't shift the arm and ankle trackers to the left but I just set them manually it's easier than skiing :) Also at first in VRC I was physically T-posing and ending up with elbows sticking out but I-posing in VRC's T pose fixed it. Edit: wait you did the T pose though? Hmmm ill ask in the discord
Hi! Great tutorial! I've been trying for a while to get perfect tracking with slimevr and have a couple questions if you can help me out. 1. Where exactly do you put your hip tracker? On your belly button in front so flat, or in line with the top of your hip bone in front (slightly pitched if I've eaten). I'm worried that I will have issues because it is slightly pitched and if I breathe, it moves slightly. Is that an issue? 2. Is the chest tracker really supposed to be as high as you have it on your avatar? Like barely below the collar bone? I used to wear mine at the base of my sternum. 3. I do a lot of blender work for avatars. Did you change your avatars proportions to fit your irl proportions to get it to match so well? Thanks! ❤
Hello! I generally recommend putting the hip tracker as low as possible, within reason. You can also try it behind your back, and see if that works better for you. As for chest tracker being high, I found that that works better for accurate movement, and when it is placed too low (mid torso) it can act strangely when sitting down (belly will jut out more) I didn't change the proportions of the Deira at all, it just works super well for me - lucky, since I really found this to be my favorite!
If you have only 5 trackers (no hip) that is commonly what happens - I'd also recommend using default proportions to test things, since automatic proportions (the dance) can be tough to get right at first without practice!
i have a question, so i have 7+3 trackers but idk how to enable the steam vr because i play on pc vr im confused by it and i got my trackers yesterday can you help explain how please?
You have to have SteamVR installed, then install the SlimeVR server - when you turn on your headset and connect to SteamVR, the headset and controllers should show up in SlimeVR, and from there you can just follow the guide!
Should Slime straps be skin tight? I am a plus-sized person with lots of flab on my arms and thighs and I'm not entirely sure how I can get the balance of "it won't keep spinning around" and "it won't cut off my circulation"
I'd advise looking into silicone backed straps (make sure you don't have a silicone allergy), they can help a lot to keep the straps from sliding around and let you not have to tighten them up too much!
I usually would say Go-Pro chest harness, but for more comfort, there's "Chesty" chest mounts that use softer material but still provide excellent stability! To mount the tracker on it, you can use velcro straps or good tape even. There's also 3D printer designs the community has made for backing plates with the clip built in that are made for official slimes, which are cool.
Thanks this helps a lot! Does the automatic mounting calibration save a more accurate position than the 8 postions (front, front-left, left etc) found in the manual calibration?
For VR, you use the headset - for Mocap or VTubing, it's possible to use a Slime tracker as "head" and do mocap mode, which lets you walk around freely in the scenes!
Do you have to connect with 2.4ghz wifi? Only way my quest pro controllers don't constantly disconnect is by turning off the 2.4ghz radio on my wifi router.
Try looking up "Chesty" chest mounts, they are like the Amazon Go-Pro chest harness but specially built with softer neoprene instead of a hard plastic backplate!
good to know that i’ve been doing the calibration completely wrong. someone needs to animate the calibration screen. (and it would be so easy because mocap???)
I actually have made the animation using a robot avatar, it'll be included in an upcoming Server update! Butterscotch did some fancy compression to it, as well.
Try joining up at an event or pinging me on the discord server, it's a non-random process but it can help to have someone who knows how to do it show you
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Excellent work ZRock! Learned somethings even with 1.5k hours with slime :)
Some little notes I'd add for new users to help with things I ran into
--- Tracker Rotation ---
Before running body proportion calibration (And every time I put slimes on) I recommend checking your trackers are aligned. With slime it's very important for the trackers to be rotated correctly, or for example when you lift your leg it'll lift to the side rather then straight.
My calibration method: For chest / hip eyeball them and set straight, for thighs while standing lift knee to 90 degrees (as straight up as you can to avoid ankle rotation throwing off your thigh rotation) and touch with your controller. If it's off to the side of your controller, rotate it a little, I-Pose and do a full reset, repeat until accurate. For ankles I usually stand on one leg and point the other straight at about a 45 degree ankle from my hip and lay my controller on my thigh and check that my leg is straight. Not the most accurate way for ankle, a better way is probably to grab your foot behind your back or to the side and check it lines up with your controller, or put your foot on a chair and tilt your knee to the side with your controller touching your foot. Ankle affects your lower leg so you want a movement that angles your knee to check it's rotated correctly.
Once you are used to it and understand it you can get that rotation calibration down to under the time it takes to boot up VRChat.
--- Other little things ---
When I go to do FBT calibration in VRChat I click calibrate, and while T-Posing I do a full tracker reset just before clicking in my triggers so I know every time I do a full reset in slime my avatar perfectly lines up with that reset and that there is no drift throwing off VRChat's calibration.
If when you sit your legs cross it's likely your trackers are too high on your thighs. As you sit down the upper part of your thigh rotates inwards pulling the tracker with it, this results in your legs crossing. To avoid this slide your tracker further down, above the knee is the best spot. For me I can't stand the tracker there, it's most comfy wayyy up on my thighs for me so I just do a quick reset with my legs pointing out in front of me when I sit down. You could also try mounting your thigh trackers on the outside of your thighs to minimize it but I haven't tried that yet and probably won't since I lay on my side alot.
Sometimes tracking funkiness isn't actually slime, it's your avatar or VRChat's IK! Alot of times I thoguht my tracking was wonky it was actually the IK of my avatar / VRChat or Chillout or whatever platform I was on. A quick check is to click your steam menu button so you can visually see your actual trackers. If they line up with your body but your avatar is doing something funky it's a problem with your avatar or VRChat's IK. Either due to differences in your avatar's body length proportions, or the way it's IK was set up.
--- Welcome to slime! ---
I've been in the slime community on and off for a few years, I started with 6 cell phones as my tackers for a few hundred hours before building a DIY beginner 6050 set, and now almost done building a BNO set of trackers. The community is fantastic and will help with any issues you run into, the software is always getting better, and it's just so fun to have full body, enjoy your trackers!
I'm so glad someone wrote this so I didn't have to since, for the longest time, I thought the problem was slimeVR until I finally learned that it was problems with the avatar. also, for the knee thigh trackers, I find there are some very slight benefits when it's closer to the knee, as you said, as well as having the slightest amount of movement toward the inner thigh instead of being straight on forward. One more thing I would like to add is if you do have feet trackers, getting that mounting position spot on is hard, and if you do get it wrong, sitting and lying down can be very bad.
honey, wake up, another calibration tutorial just dropped
ZRock you well.... rock, I have had my custom built slimes for a few months now and they never seemed to work right and I THOUGHT everything looked good in the software. my tracking in game was meh at best. Well after following this video my tracking is so much better I can even sit crisscross. I am so excited to use my slimes again I almost wrote it off as me having just made them wrong. so thank you for the amazing video guide. I'm sure you'll keep making so many more amazing videos that continue to help the slime community.
I appreciate the feedback - I tried my best to show what works for me, and I'm really happy it's working for you as well!
The slime team unintentionally made the best marketing possible just by the wait times. Only been like 2 months and I'm probably not even halfway to get mine but it's drove me crazy enough that I'm no longer happy getting the 5+1 set and I've requested the 7+3 thanks to obsessing and watching videos like this months before I can put it into practice. I am DAMN jealous of everyone who has theirs showing them off.
I don't have the money for it, I'm not trying to brag that I'm getting a good set because it's a bad idea for me to do that but it's really cool so I am doing anyway.
Well they JUST upgraded my order after about 3 days and I watched $150 + a currency exchange fee leave my bank account but it's worth, took it off my mind and I'm just excited for it now :)
@@Soubifloof Yep. I eventually chose a few hundred sent into my bank instead of slimes to my door but it's real exciting and real hard to give it up when you see people so much more present in the environment in vrchat. I ofc hold nothing against the slime team and I intend to order a set again when it won't mean I might go through menopause in exchange. (I will not elaborate because it's way funnier that way)
@@hhhhhhhhhhhhhnhhhhhhh they're speeding up on orders if you're intending to order, sending the slimes to sorta be made faster :)
@@santakiller2gt489 Only recently came to realise I'm getting basically 5k in a few days but I have to live off that for a while. You can't just up and make me want them again now lol no fair I've even resisted PC upgrades. Give me like 2 weeks having the money and I'll just say yes, FBT seems to be a real weak spot for me.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS GUIDE. I've had my DIY trackers for awhile now and I just couldn't figure out how to get them to behave properly like others have, especially since I went for the BNO085s. The information on your video helped tremendously. You are amazing for doing this work! My happiness with SlimeVR has increased x10-fold.
I just got my slime today and I was having so many issues with calibration and this video helped me solve all my problems!! Thank youu
That's so good to hear, thanks for sharing that!
If you have any further problems, Zrocks is very generous and takes time on certain days to plan events on the discord in vrchat to help people get their trackers set up.
Thank you, this is what I mean when I need a hand holding guide, because all these months no matter how many guides I was told told to read the way I interpreted and was doing mount reset and body proportions, was wrong!!!, I'm dumb and need this level of hand holding thank you.
This is fantastic! For the last year I've been using one tracker (OwoTrackVR on my phone) so I was familiar with some of SlimeVR's features, but I recently got 6-point FBT and this video guide is exactly what I needed! You're making me want to upgrade to more points of tracking already... I want those elbows so I can pole dance, dang it!
I might get a new phone soon, and if I do, I'll use that and my old phone to get that 8-point tracking I want for club dancing! I'm hoping to use one phone as a chest tracker and another as a waist tracker, to keep my lightweight trackers for the points that move more drastically. From your explanation of the rest of the tracking points, I think that 8-point setup will be all I really need, unless I want to get foot trackers eventually. Thanks a ton for all the info! This is one of the most helpful channels I've found since getting into FBT!
Yours run so well I can’t even sit without my hip turning sideways when I sit in my chair
thanks for the video! super useful. i love that you have the trackers showing on your avatar, it makes the explanation so clear!
Really appreciate the work you do helping us get the best from our slimes. Its a fantastic system, my tracking has benifited greatly from your efforts and knowledge. Thankyou.
Using slime is a blessing and a curse at times with how specific everything can be. Thank you for your videos, they're very insightful in guiding users.
My tracking is good for the most part. besides the hip and feet floating at times. I'm not sure why. Is there something I should change specifically? Also if you squat lower than seen here during calibration and during body measurement-will it result in poorer results comparatively?
Legend ! Thanks for being epic
This did indeed make a huge difference even just the mounting positions, thanks!
For me the auto alignment didn't shift the arm and ankle trackers to the left but I just set them manually it's easier than skiing :)
Also at first in VRC I was physically T-posing and ending up with elbows sticking out but I-posing in VRC's T pose fixed it.
Edit: wait you did the T pose though? Hmmm ill ask in the discord
Hi! Great tutorial!
I've been trying for a while to get perfect tracking with slimevr and have a couple questions if you can help me out.
1. Where exactly do you put your hip tracker? On your belly button in front so flat, or in line with the top of your hip bone in front (slightly pitched if I've eaten). I'm worried that I will have issues because it is slightly pitched and if I breathe, it moves slightly. Is that an issue?
2. Is the chest tracker really supposed to be as high as you have it on your avatar? Like barely below the collar bone? I used to wear mine at the base of my sternum.
3. I do a lot of blender work for avatars. Did you change your avatars proportions to fit your irl proportions to get it to match so well?
Thanks! ❤
Hello! I generally recommend putting the hip tracker as low as possible, within reason. You can also try it behind your back, and see if that works better for you.
As for chest tracker being high, I found that that works better for accurate movement, and when it is placed too low (mid torso) it can act strangely when sitting down (belly will jut out more)
I didn't change the proportions of the Deira at all, it just works super well for me - lucky, since I really found this to be my favorite!
@@ZRock35VRthank you! ❤
Honestly this helped me so much!!! Everything looks so smooth and accurate now even before I turn on OVR SmoothTracking OwO
Thank zrogler big help getting my trackers setup last week ❤️
Where can i find the right go pro harness to use for the chest tracker?
My slimes arrive in June and I wanted to do some research into the setup for them. This video was perfect tsym!
Hey ZRock where did you get that chest Tracker harness from?
Amazon basics go-pro chest harness - it's like 10 USD, well worth it (get stickyback velcro tape to fasten it on)
i was wondering, what harness do you use for the chest tracker, cause i dont wanna accidentally buy one and then not be able to attach it
just what I needed, Thanks!
I find that hip tilt is my most common enemy. Any tips on how to correct it?
I have slime trackers they kinda fuck up the tracking when i sit on a chair and lay back or if i lie down, anyone got any tips on how to avoid that?
If you have only 5 trackers (no hip) that is commonly what happens - I'd also recommend using default proportions to test things, since automatic proportions (the dance) can be tough to get right at first without practice!
Muchos gracias!! You are a life savior/blessing!
lots of useful tips, thanks a lot
ye idk what to do can't get trackin crispy as yours
can kinda sit or laydown but legs don't realy track well
absolutely mind boggling how bad the documentation is, thank you for the video
i have a question, so i have 7+3 trackers but idk how to enable the steam vr because i play on pc vr im confused by it and i got my trackers yesterday can you help explain how please?
You have to have SteamVR installed, then install the SlimeVR server - when you turn on your headset and connect to SteamVR, the headset and controllers should show up in SlimeVR, and from there you can just follow the guide!
thanks man big help
Should Slime straps be skin tight? I am a plus-sized person with lots of flab on my arms and thighs and I'm not entirely sure how I can get the balance of "it won't keep spinning around" and "it won't cut off my circulation"
I'd advise looking into silicone backed straps (make sure you don't have a silicone allergy), they can help a lot to keep the straps from sliding around and let you not have to tighten them up too much!
so how do you install Slime vr in the quest 2?
I have a Standalone video guide, in the Tutorials playlist for that!
What harness do you recommend to stabilize the chest tracker more?
I usually would say Go-Pro chest harness, but for more comfort, there's "Chesty" chest mounts that use softer material but still provide excellent stability! To mount the tracker on it, you can use velcro straps or good tape even. There's also 3D printer designs the community has made for backing plates with the clip built in that are made for official slimes, which are cool.
@@ZRock35VR can ya send me a link to those “chesty” ones?
Thanks this helps a lot! Does the automatic mounting calibration save a more accurate position than the 8 postions (front, front-left, left etc) found in the manual calibration?
Yep, in fact you can see that automatic mounting calibration will "override" the defaults, if you do it and then click on and look at the tracker!
Wait… what’s the head tracker-? The headset? Mine isnt in the slime vr thing…
For VR, you use the headset - for Mocap or VTubing, it's possible to use a Slime tracker as "head" and do mocap mode, which lets you walk around freely in the scenes!
Do you have to connect with 2.4ghz wifi? Only way my quest pro controllers don't constantly disconnect is by turning off the 2.4ghz radio on my wifi router.
yeah im pretty sure they can only do 2.4ghz
yay another vid from the cutie!
I love it!
Just made my gf a set and were having issues with the leg not going where it should hope it's a mounting calibration issue hope this fixes it
where is that chest strap from, i need a link D: the single strap is so uncomfy if youre a woman
Try looking up "Chesty" chest mounts, they are like the Amazon Go-Pro chest harness but specially built with softer neoprene instead of a hard plastic backplate!
Love it
Once trackers are all connected via wifi i dont gotta do it again, right?
yep! should be fine from that point
@@ZRock35VR Thank u so much!!♡♡♡
I have a problem where my right leg kicks to the left instead of forward can anyone help me? My left leg kicks forward just fine but the right is off
where did you get the chest tracking harness?
Amazon had the one I bought, "Amazon Basics Go-Pro Chest Harness" for about $10 USD
Now, you just need to package this for streaming somewhere that will generate sponsors and ad revenue without the TH-cam requirements.
Real
good to know that i’ve been doing the calibration completely wrong. someone needs to animate the calibration screen. (and it would be so easy because mocap???)
I actually have made the animation using a robot avatar, it'll be included in an upcoming Server update! Butterscotch did some fancy compression to it, as well.
Gah Tracking with added elbows look so good !! ... Fine i get my spare parts out and finish it finally so i have 8 slimey's ^^
still hasn't worked for me
Try joining up at an event or pinging me on the discord server, it's a non-random process but it can help to have someone who knows how to do it show you
@@ZRock35VR need guidance, not a crowd gawking, so i'll more than likely do the latter
very good
👍👋👏
cant belive i been doing it wrong XDDD
Yee
Just annoying music.
I often recommend playing your own when watching!
@@ZRock35VR I listen to videos on my headphones while working. Every once in a while, I end up on one that's just music, unfortunately.