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- Award-winning filmmakers Amy Ziering, Kirby Dick and Amy Herdy go deeper inside Part Two of the HBO Original Allen v. Farrow, and examine Mia Farrow as a mother and the controlling nature of Woody Allen’s relationship with her. In addition, they share never-before-heard audio clips from Tisa Farrow, Casey Pascal and Carly Simon that illuminate Mia's relationships to her family and to Woody Allen. In an exclusive first-time interview, Casey Pascal’s former babysitter Alison Stickland describes what she witnessed between Dylan and Woody on the day of the alleged attic incident. Later, author Rachel Louise Snyder examines the concept of coercive control relationships.
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@@alanblanes2876 You've saved yourself from 4+ hours of complete dreck.
@@alanblanes2876 "unfortunately"!!!
Thanks for providing this excellent explanatory analysis. I hope those people who have flippantly commented in social media take the time to listen to all 4 of your discussions - it should help them understand that upheaval in a family is not a joking matter.
It helped *me* understand how malleable people can be when they haven't done the necessary background reading & mistake this self-congratulatory tabloid trash for original research or investigative journalism.
Personal podcast highlight?
Has to be The Search For Alison Stickland (in Part 2), but then I have the advantage of being in England & knowing how UNcommon her surname is, & hence how dishonest or incompetent "chief investigative producer" Amy Herdy is.
....mind you, the rhapsodic sympathy for poor Mia being betrayed by Andre Previn *with her best friend* can't help but be hilarious when you know about the unmentioned Dory Previn & how that relationship began.
& the use of music in both podcast & documentary - just in case you *missed the point* is always chucklesome.
Can I sell you London Bridge, Alan?
I know I missed so much of the series as it surfaced my own past abuse.... but this podcast and the series has greatly enhanced my conversations with my therapist. As I listened, I found myself saying.... Yup, sounds eerily similar to my own experiences. This is must watch and listening. Thank you for taking on this project.... while it may have been the rock to start the ripple..... You will never know how much it has helped..... even 43 years later.
With zero proof!
Blessings & hope you're doing well. 💖✊
So sad for Dylan farrow that this disgusting man abused her as a child and still people defend him.....
This was thoroughly investigated and both reports said there was no credible evidence to back up these claims. The Yale report even concluded that they believed Dylan was coached, but still you believe he is guilty. Why?
@@davidsheriff9274 because that report was very questionable, it would now never been accepted in court.They even destroyed the transcripts of the session s so noone could check it. You should read more into it instead of defending a pedofile.
Why didn’t she ask Strickland if there was anyone else in the room? She seems to be avoiding that fact for some reason.
I just earned a Masters in dysfunctional relationships by listening to this one podcast... coercive control, gaslighting, isolation using intimacy capital. Drop the 🎤
I mean yeah if you sleep with your best friends husband, marry him, then promote your appreciation of the music of said best friend that she wrote after being committed in a asylum because of you back stabbing her only to use one of the songs as narrative for molestation allegations years later, I’d say thats total gaslighting, coercion and nefarious use of intimacy capital.
No, Tamara, you just listened to a podcast & showed how suggestible you are.
Whereas the people working for Yale-New Haven & NY child welfare services in 1993 *did* have those qualifications that you're now fantasizing about awarding yourself.
...& they had access to the *full* videotape & all other evidence & a total of 21 months to *professionally* consider *these very serious matters*
@@davidfisher5045 you missed out getting pregnant (with twins!) by your best friend's husband
You missed a FAR better opportunity. You could have earned a master in Geology by listening to the Flatearth channel.
@@russt4716 A complete stranger insulting me on social media. How will I sleep tonight?
Mia Farrow was never an "even keel" person. Children are autonomous beings, not collectibles.
Very interesting podcast. Thank you. Just an aside: the surname Stickland isn't terribly common in the UK.
That was such an amazing episode ur interviewees were so interesting and so clear in their position and understanding. I am so grateful we are speaking about this topic. It’s always been in my life and everything u speak to is the experience of many people I know. Thank you.
You need to be a little less amazed & a little more curious & enquiring on such a serious topic.
Google Moses Farrow's Open Letter & Robert Weide's meticulous analyses on his This Mortal Coil blogspot
Alison Stickland was unable to explain why she'd CHANGED HER STORY when she took the witness stand in 1993, much to the embarrassment of Mia's attorneys
You might ask yourself why Dylan has never sued WA in civil court (which she can do until she's 48): remember OJ?!
It's because there's no credible evidence
@@pauldunn108 how do you know she won’t be suing him and maybe she hasn’t because she was still dealing with the aftermath of it and was advised not to because it would be harmful to her progress in healing from it. I mean there is just as much reason to believe that as there is to believe anything Moses says
@@dipsydoodle2728 in your mind, maybe, not mine, after following this farrago over 29 years.
If she does sue, great, but she's certainly taking her time as this was supposed to be
the Defining Act of her life.
It's also noteworthy that the Farrows never even *mention* this, & have tried to give the impression that the Connecticut statute of limitations has expired!
One of the HBO producers was surprised when the question came up: she was completely unaware of it.
In the same way, legal hotshot Ronan has ignored Bob Weide's offer to donate $100,000 to a charity of his choice if he can come up with one piece of credible new evidence.
That's the Ronan who blocks anyone who asks awkward questions on Twitter.
Maybe Dylan's Young Adult fantasy novel has been a higher priority?!
....or just *maybe* to borrow your word the Farrows are well aware that due process requires a higher standard than obtains in non-live tearful TV interviews, ludicrously one-sided documentaries & the easily suggestible Twitterati
Malignant personality types all operate with the moral/ethical/spiritual intelligence of a reptile.
No offense intended to actual reptiles, including salamanders and snakes.
As soon as this started "Mia created a wonderland", further proved the bias, go watch some of Moses's videos of his relationship with his mom
I have watched several and they speak volumes! And to think, three of Mia's adopted children are dead.....according to Moses, all by suicide. All were Asian.
@@8Namaste Moses said two by suicide.
@12345grov her account keeps changing over time.
@Brandy Baker the police found a train TRACK which they included in a drawing of the crawl space, which was used for storage of a large ride-on toy train, not a model train layout which was in another room.
Monica Thompson's 1993 affidavit cited Moses telling her that he did not believe Dylan's story: by his account it took him several more years to emerge from what he now terms "the cult"
All these matters could of course be discussed & contested, on oath, in a civil court action, but the Farrows are reluctant to take that course, or even to admit its possibility
@Brandy Baker Try listening to Moses Farrow. to see another opinion.
The conversations on here feel fragmented and unfocussed - not easy to follow.
it is hard to listen to this because of that and then you add onto that that the film is so obviously a propaganda piece filled with outright lies that it is almost impossible to really pay attention to such fragmenation and poorly presented misinformation. and that is all they have really the fragmentation and lack of focus supports the foundation of misinformation this work is built on.
When is this over? A trial and guilty or not guilty and still not accepted. No one wants either party to not have their justice
If they were after justice the Farrows would be taking this to civil trial (which Dylan can still do until she's 48)
But they're not, & they have no case
Dumbest question ever. Do you not understand what’s going on here?
@@user-jc8py7dw7r is yours the dumbest comment ever?
Perhaps you'll explain it for us
Suni was 18 when the photos were taken. How old was Suni when she was groomed?
*Sunyi
Soon-Yi was 21
She was born in 1970. She graduated high school in 1991. She was 21 when the affair started and the photos were taken.
@@kumiko6532 the affair started when she was in high school her mother confirm she found this out from the people who worked at Woody’s building
@@lilqueenhustler She was visiting his apartment during her last year of high school. Again, this was in 1990/91. She graduated from Marymount in 1991, and started at Drew University in the Fall. The affair didn’t begin until late 1991, when she was 21. The photos were found in January 1992.
Let’s not forget Mia was willing to drop all charges in exchange for 7 million dollars! That is shown in official papers. Either she knew the allegations were false or she is an evil mother willing to dismiss her daughter’s abuse in exchange for money.
she knew the allegations were false and she is an evil adoptive mother willing to harm a small child to get back at someone who shouldn't matter as much as her children.
I've gotten to the point where I won't watch Woody's movies anymore. I "boycott" the actors who still work with him, and who stand up for him.
wow..just no mention of 3 deaths by suicide of 3 of her children ???
So what about Moses claims of being abused by Mia? Sounds like she's pretty awful! Let's go there please!! If you're gonna go here, then let's consider part of the source or maybe THE source!
Moses needs to be heard. Abusers don't do 1 offs. Mia was well known to be an abuser. Children are autonomous beings, not collectibles.
I wonder if the documentary will be giving extensive coverage to Mia flying to London to give evidence on behalf of Roman Polanski in his libel case?
Probably no more coverage than they'll give Woody's twice publicly lobbying for Roman Polanski to be set free, because spending 42 days on a psychiatry evaluation was punishment enough. Or his referring to Polanski as a nice man. Boom.
@Paulo Felipe I hope you've read my comment, just above ...
And possibly a mention of Mia's brother...
@Io inthenightsky Who are these witnesses attesting to the fact that Allen sexually abused Dylan?
I don’t think that’s relevant, but it is interesting that they avoided mentioning Polanski’s name when taking about Rosemary’s Baby. It seems the filmmakers want to avoid any negative association that Farrow has had over the years.
Doesn't anyone know about or mention their movie collaboration for 10 years. Was she innocent? She was married to 5 time husband Previn (10 children) and Sinatra. How innocent could she be. How isolated with 7 siblings.
I think Woody's possible guilt is well worth exploring; however, this doc seems rather slavishly effusive concerning the alleged overwhelming wonderfulness of Mia. Maybe Mia was/is a wonderful mom, but that doesn't demonstrate Woody's guilt any more than her being a terrible mom would demonstrate his innocence.
That I agree with.
i think the wonderful mom stuff is just something they added because of the claims from Mason and SY. iirc
@Jonathan Beck except three of hers didn’t and being a wonderful/bad/okay mom has no bearing on what psychological issues the person may have that they see only suicide as a way out there are people who have wonderful parents who commit suicide and people who have horrible parents who don’t
@Jonathan Beck they were adopted yes but how do you know they didn’t have any psychological issues from their biological families or from what they endured before they were adopted. The question is why do you choose to believe Moses and Soon Yi who by the way is woody’s wife so I’m not sure how credible she actually can be thought of and not Dylan the other siblings the witnesses the therapists who interviewed Dylan and before you say YALE one of them actually ended up admitting she believed the child they interviewed 9 times and observed him and his own behavior I never said Mia was an angel but calling her a bad mother because of a suicide is wrong
@@dipsydoodle2728 "a" suicide?
2 are undisputed: Moses is adamant there's a 3rd, & there's also the matter of the kids whom Mia adopted & then sent back!
Why should Soon-Yi's statements as a 50yo mother of 2 with a relationship that's lasted 3x as long as any of her mother's be discounted?
Or Moses?
Because they're Asian & Dylan's white?
(That's what they think)
Disgusting man. You can still hear the shock in the nanny's voice decades later.
....the nanny who couldn't explain why she'd changed her story when on the stand.
Fascinating how people hear what they want to hear.
(@24:17) "Stickland is a very common name in the UK, it's like Smith in the US"
I'm in the UK: my local phone book doesn't have ANY Sticklands or Stricklands (it has hundreds of Smiths) & I've never known one.
That's Amy, the genius chief investigator of this farrago, who took 2 years to track her quarry down!
I think all those still taking this project seriously should take note...
@Reyna Arawan rather desperate, aren't you?!
Her & your statement about the preponderance of the name here in the UK is categorically & demonstrably incorrect.
My latest - & last - LOCAL phonebook is from 2019, contains NO examples of that name & HUNDREDS of Smiths!
I just used the phonebook - obsolescent as they now are - as the most immediately available example, but all rigorous statistical enquiry merely confirms the obvious fact that though there may be HUNDREDS of examples of the name in the UK population of 60 MILLION, it is dwarved by the number of Smiths - just as in the USA! - & in absolute contradiction of Amy H's ludicrous statement
@Reyna Arawan you incidentally provide a fabulous example of the lack of analytic ability & common sense that is willing to swallow a sensationalist & one-sided documentary while never questioning the fact that if her case had any strength, Dylan (before she turns 48) could sue WA in a civil court....& maybe donate the millions in damages to metoo?!
@Reyna Arawan there are 500,000 Smiths in the UK today....&, as you say & I have no dispute, HUNDREDS of Stricklands!!
@Reyna Arawan I'm leaving the truth bending to you, you seem to be addicted to it!
One more time (although I'm only repeating what any fool can read in my earlier comments):-
There are NO Stricklands/Sticklands in my printed 2019 LOCAL phonebook!
Not a one!
No matter how hard I stare at the alphabetically appropriate page!!
There are,however, several HUNDRED Smiths over several pages in that very same publication!!
You would be laughed to scorn by any Brit to suggest that Strickland/Stickland is at all common in the UK, let alone one of the most popular surnames.
Au contraire, Smith is the #1 surname in the UK - just as it is in Canada, Australia, New Zealand & the good old USA! - 500,000 of the blighters in our population of 60 million.
That has nothing to do with a child molestation accusation, but EVERYTHING to do with the integrity of the producers of the HBO documentary, whose principal "investigative journalist" has just tried to propound this LIE in the above podcast, at the cited place
@Reyna Arawan oh, & Alison Stickland took the stand in the custody hearing way back then & embarrassed Mia+ her attorneys by contradicting herself!
Go & read it!
OMG the circumstances of the Previn Farrow are 180 degrees opposite of what is said here. Previn left Mia's best friend for Mia, not the other way around
Yes - poor Dory.
@Brandy Baker No one really knows why Andre Previn and Mia Farrow divorced. It has never been disclosed. We DO now that Andre and Dory Previn divorced for the exact reasons to which the film-makers FALSELY ascribe to the divorce of Andre and Mia.
@Brandy Baker If so that is entirely new info about the break up of Andre and Mia. But it seems to be a carbon copy of the earlier story as well as entirely novel.
@@jonharvey4625 Not true. Mia's affair with Sven Nykvist sealed her and Andre's fate.
@@rl12345 Wow. Thanks. Googling 'Farrow Nykvist', this comes right up. But Googling 'Farrow Previn divorce', all hits say the reason for their split is shrouded in mystery.
Thank you, good sir/madam.
Zerbert
Gaslighting !!!
It’s 8:07
The comments section is very unsettling.
There is something wrong with that man ‘Paul Dunn’.
I don’t know what it is with him but he’s giving me the creeps 🤮
Wow, how totally insightful. Thanks for adding to the conversation.
Another bs podcast with people complimenting each other over their great work. Nauseating!
I couldn't help noticung that too!
Their minds are so easily blown by each other!!
@@pauldunn108 we didn’t tune into the podcast to hear how great they think they are. We tuned in for further explanation of their findings. So I’m sure I didn’t miss anything. When you have the first several minutes and then some of braggadocio, it’s time to flip the channel.
This narcissistic self serving dude had no guilt in having relations his effective stepdaughter and leaving his adopted child to struggle and suffer, his head in her lap? Yuk.
I'm in no way saying that way Alan was innocent but these questions were so leading. Not done very well
Agree with others, hard to follow-even video of them talking, while not very exciting, would have been helpful.
Will there be any more episodes?
Can’t stand him
Allen is a creep, but imo Farrow is lying. Her son is one who is producing this for HBO.
That's kinda shady and weird if you ask me
Sit then
@Paulo Felipe How do you know Dylan is telling the truth and not what she was programmed to believe?
@@davidfisher5045 Because she's an adult and the concept of implanting false memories about abuse has been debunked.
@@Catbooks how was it debunked? Two independent studies as well as Farrows own atty came to that conclusion.
Narrow life? Between 1982 and 1992 she appeared in an Allen movie a year (2 in 1988). Interesting the allegations arise in 1992.
"You take my daughter, I'll take yours" - Mia Farrow
Where was the physical evidence
Maybe the FA can use that as their defence. It's all heresay.
There was none, according to Mia's paediatrician & the investigating agencies
The thing that bothers me is this Kardashian-like sounding scenario of Mom constantly videotaping her kids rather than joining them. I have memories with my two and my niece that mean the world to me and my sister/brother-in-law but we made a point of being with them and took a few photos. I wish we had a few more photos but not that much. The memories will NEVER fade. She was making reality videos of her kids rather than being with them. I don't get that at all.
WELCOME TO THE IRISH CATHOLIC FAMILY! Most moms make breakfast for their kids lots of kids!
she ddint go crazy on set of rosemarys baby cuz she knew it would be a hit. Mia also stole Andre Prevon from Dori Shannon so please!
Looks like the Harry and Meghan interview beat out the latest episode of Allen v. Farrow in last Sunday night’s ratings. Not surprising since the HBO documentary did not really include any new revelations like Oprah’s interview had. Dylan, Mia and Ronan Farrow have all had their 15 minutes in the spotlight and the audience’s attention has moved on to the next bright, shiny object.
....& they will never, ever, bring this to a civil court
@@pauldunn108 - I understand that the statute of limitations for any civil claims by Dylan Farrow against Allen for the alleged molestation has not run. I suspect that she knows that an impartial jury would not believe her story.
@@colingallagher1443 you betcha!
She can bring a civil action before she reaches 48 years of age!
But why bother, when that would involve due process, sworn testimony, rules of evidence, cross examination etc etc...
No journalist ever brings it up when the Farrows appear on TV or in print, & the Twitter lynch mob neither know nor care
I'm not even sure what this is suppose to mean or how it's relevant. One has nothing to do with the other. But eh, ok? Whatever you say bud.
@@cmartell4533 you don't see the relevance of taking the opportunity to bring a civil action & presenting evidence in a formal & dignified fashion?
Especially when Dylan Farrow specifically told Gayle King in her TV interview that she now regrets missing her "day in court" when Frank Maco decided there was no point in pursuing the matter in criminal court back in 1992?!
That's not OK, "bud"
Dylan must be an even more horrible version of dirty mia. Hard to believe.
Or her mind was warped into believing it happened. Let's not forget, Dylan was in therapy since 4 years old and was being asked about her Daddy and how he was around her. Children are sponges and no doubt she would have picked up that there was animosity between them and the nature of it.
@@dublinvids5146 didn't know about the therapy since 4yo...but the Farrow family certainly has a troubled history
What? Blame the child victim?