Allen v. Farrow Analysis | Was Woody Allen Guilty? Are False Allegations Common?
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He was a man in his 50s who, without a doubt, was a father (or father figure) to their kids. What man in his 50s pursues a young girl, takes her to school, etc then moves on to taking pornographic photos and later marries her. If that isn't a strong case of grooming I don't know what is. Marrying her does not get him off the hook. Watch the full documentary. I believe you Dylan.
He actually had very little interaction with Soon Yi until she was older and only started getting to know her after Mia suggested it because she wanted Allen to have a connection with her children from Andre Previn. I'm not sure why you'd say "without a doubt" -- there is a lot of reason to doubt. In fact, there's no evidence for it. It's certainly weird and I think it's disturbing that he even engaged the idea due to the connection to Mia, but they've had a long loving relationship so they've done better than most anyways I guess.
@@BobsRevenge You use the words 'weird' and 'disturbing' which is exactly what this is. There's a reason for that. What is that? How does being married a long time prove that he did not groom her in the first place?
"Takes her to school?" What are you talking about? He did none of that. He never lived with her. Hell, he never lived with Mia Farrow.
@@timbeaux7678 Previn, herself said that he offered to take her to school when she injured herself playing soccer, and they then started attending basketball games together.
@@BobsRevenge It's still antisocial behavior and violates social norms to an extreme. You don't go after your partners daughter. That's some predatory behavior
I investigated child abuse for 20 years during my career. The general public would be amazed at instances where children are either intentionally or unintentionally coached to accuse a parent of abuse. These accusations almost always occurred during a messy divorce or separation. Sometimes the coaching accusations were obviously intentional. At other times, the parent may suspect something and then ask the child leading questions. After a few leading questions, the child is agreeing with the person asking the questions. Before long, the parent and child have convinced themselves something terrible happened and the snowball occurs. At times the parents get so caught up in their perceived betrayal, they forget about what it is doing to the child. This is not to discount that children are abuse, because there are many children who are abused. A qualified forensic interviewer should always be used when interviewing children who may be abused. They are qualified to pick up on those subtle responses that may indicate a false allegation. However, no one is a mind reader and in the end, children must be protected, even when there is not enough probable cause for an arrest.
Most of the time about 98% of the time children are not coached are being honest.
HALF TRUE. Debbie THANKS for being HALF right. Parent? LOL. wo-MEN are exclusively the ones making FALSE accusations, it is almost never the Father
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@@bhaktibhakti2601no it's 90 percent.
@@ichibonfriend2923 98% of rape/sexual assault claims are LIES. It's also a tactic that's used against MEN in divorce. Mia Farrow was thoroughly investigated and deemed NOT credible. ALSO Woody's other son says $MeToo is bullshit and his brother Ronan is racist & antsemitic and is deliberately targeting Blacks & Jews for false accusations. FACT!
No clinician can say "No sexual abuse has taken place", they can only say whether they have found evidence of it
And no one found evidence of it. Case closed!
@Roodi Graffoodi hearsay my friend. Add in daily coaching which Nanny Thompson witnessed and quit over and the fact that Groteke told Thompson she regretted saying 20 minutes when it wasONLY five. And this is also in Thompson’s Affidavit given to the Court. It never happened. There are three liars. Mia, Ronan and Dylan.
@Dotard Trump I don’t know maybe Mia can prove invisible dragons like the way she proved the imaginary abuse!
@Roodi Graffoodi hearsay. The only witness is Dylan. No one witnessed the alleged abuse. Case closed! There is no physical trauma either!
@Dotard Trump exactly and Dylan did not prove it! She said it. That’s not proof!
A lawyer once said that he would rather be found guilty of manslaughter than innocent of child abuse.
Facts 100%
The entire situation is terribly sad.
Will you be able to make psychological analysis for Tiger Wood? How internalization process occured between father to son? Thanks in advance.
@@rahajengutami535 may I ask what it is you are talking about
For the kids, yes very much so
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Mia Farrow’s brother spent approximately a decade behind bars for the sexual abuse of two very young boys...... there’s something very strange about this entire Mia verses Woody thing. What a mess.
Dr. Grande, to call Woody's deplorable relationship with Soon-Yi as "poor boundaries" isn't good enough. It's deplorable and devastating.
Yeah usually I agree with him. He's totally off on this. Investigations on child sexual abuse was not exactly gold standard in the 80s. Child psychology research had completely changed how and when children are interviewed, he's acting as if this is contemporary. Dr. grande left off that most children do not lie about abuse.
I really enjoy Dr Grande but find him so off on child abuse cases. His review of Kelly-Anne Conway’s daughter was off.
Not saying Allen is guilty, but plenty of predators offend casually and never get caught, particularly powerful men.
Yeah I am extremely disappointed in Dr Grande. He appears to give men the benefit of the doubt more often.
@@tradwitchmorgana6933 Never get caught, then how did you check that? By just presumption like this?
@@rockugotcha the police told my mother that while there was no physical evidence, and therefore would be no prosecution, that they suspected abuse and would not put me back in the situation. That was in the 90s. I believe or maybe just hope the attitudes of the police would be much different today.
You know something is not right when an old man marries his child’s sibling ....smh
Exactly! Even if people do not believe Dylan, he had still done and said horrible things.
Or hides away with a female minor and gets caught with his head in her lap.
@@OstblockLatina Artrese is pointing out Woody Allens character not denying what happened to Dylan.
What is horrible in this..Romans and Greeks had a common practice of marrying within the family. In Hindu mythology and Islamic culture it is openly practised. He did not marry his blood, the barriers and taboos are for people who are emotionally and intellectually suppressed. Not everything in a relationship like that is sexual or perverse, that only shows the mindset of people who point fingers.
@@rishabhaniket1952 You can’t take examples from the ancient Greeks and Romans to justify a modern day act. Don’t forget about the people who it affected, the way which Mia discovered the photos. Read my comment fully though, the words WOODY said in the documentary helped for me to draw my own conclusion.
I can barely even understand who adopted who.
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Don't feel bad. Mia Farrow has 14 children, 4 of whom she gave birth to with at least two different fathers; and another 10 she adopted over the years, three of whom have since died. Some of her children were also adopted by the partners in her life, others were not. You really need a large sheet of paper and several magic markers to figure it all out.
@@pjacobsen1000 --- Seems that to Farrow, "family" is a type of vanity.
@@pjacobsen1000 cynicism.....
@@pjacobsen1000 Thanks for the summary and thanks for the ahhh moment from your use of "whom".
When you say that he made movies about Allen with "younger women" don't forget to point out Manhattan is about a relationship between an older man and child. The girl is 17 in the movie.
Eh it was the seventies and teenagers are different than small children
@@themadmattster9647 Were the laws different then? I doubt it.
Exactly. Manhattan was always a movie that creeped me out. Very indicative to woody Allen as a person. That’s not the only movie of his that involves significantly younger women.
@@Julia-um4rv The age of consent law in New York is 17. In 1979 and today.
And the actress Mariel Hemingway was actually 16. And Woody tried to get her to go to Paris with him. She declined when she realized they would be sharing a room.
I'd be interested in an analysis of people who "collect " children i.e. Mia Farrow and Angelina Jolie.
Very good point. They both got into nasty custody trials.
@@b.brightstar9189 Excellent point. What need are they attempting to fill by their collection of children. They adopt them and at some point forget they have them, but start an all out war if their partner wants to be a part of their lives. Mia accuses Woody Allen of abusing one of her adopted children and Angelina accuses Brad of fighting and abusing her oldest son, Maddox.
Collecting of any kind is an attempt to fill the unfillible hole in your soul. 1, 2, 10, it's never enough.
We collect what we covet. Some covet cars, or guitars. For some it's jewels, or lovers. Some mothers covet children. The collectibles inevitably lose their lustre, and are set aside and replaced with new shiny things.
How broken does a child become when they are replaced?
3 of Mia's children killed themselves.
The difference, however, is that Angelina Jolie seems genuine. She always has. None of her children, so far, are estranged from her or doing poorly in life. She also seems much more humble than Mia. Mia goes out of her way to make herself the subject of these fluff pieces that cast her as both a victim and a survivor/hero. She's been capitalizing on this story for 30 years. What's most disturbing is that she never kept Dylan's anonymity throughout this. As soon as Dylan supposedly alleged Woody of abuse she immediately picked up a video camera and spent three days filming her. Now of course most people would call a doctor or the police or talk to their child privately about this but, nope... let's get the video camera out, release the tape to the world, and completely rob a supposed victim the chance to tell their story to the world when they're comfortable.
Narcissim
Sometimes this type of abuse is not always evident. A five year old can understand the word “game” and not understand this trusted adult is doing something wrong to them. Many of these people are clever and creative. I wasn’t, I was playing a game...
They can also understand the concept of getting someone in trouble and be hesitant to speak against someone they love even if they’ve been abused. I’m so sick of children being ignored based on people thinking they’re too young or that they’ve been “coached” somehow. People have no clue how difficult it is to talk about this shit even as an adult. Also yeah just because there’s no physical evidence of abuse doesn’t mean there was none. What physical evidence does a touch leave?? None, but the psychological effects can last a lifetime.
@Katie Abrahams has it been roundly debunked? When did that happen?
@katie Abrahams
the absence of evidence does not provide the evidence of absence, nor does it “thoroughly debunk” the claims.
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@Katie Abrahams she was not an adult when the pictures were taken and he was a “father” in that family unit.
@Katie Abrahams I can admit that I love some of his films but these accusations are 100% credible. Also, his marriage to Sooni at *minimum* proves that he has a gross attraction to women that at his age, he could be a father to. I wonder if you’d change your opinion if you did a little more research and see what you find on the other side of the argument. I hope you have a good day💖
I'd say in general it's probably not a good idea to marry your stepdaughter, even if she is significantly younger than you and adopted. That alone would insinuate the likelihood of guilt to me. But, hey, that's just me. I haven't seen the documentary because I don't have HBO. But I've always found it kind of disturbing that he married his stepdaughter. That's just weird.
Agreed. I’ve seen it and it’s disturbing and very manipulative behavior when one party has more resources.
More than weird, demonic
@@nicolej615 Woody didn't have more resources than Mia, Mia had very influential friends, in particular she did things like try to get Frank Sinatra to put out a hit or assault on Woody Allen. Soon Yi and Allen started hanging out because Mia wanted Allen to start becoming more acquainted with the children of hers that weren't from her partnership with Allen. That's why they didn't have a father-daughter relationship, Allen didn't spend a lot of time at Farrow's residence and Soon Yi was often with her father Andre Previn. After starting to meet up they began to bond over Mia's abusive behaviors and came into a loving relationship afterward. They remain married to this day and have two adopted daughters that have only good things to say about their parents.
That’s not good enough to acuse sb of rape or pedophilia
“Insinuate the likelihood of guilt”: that’s a new one.
Soon Yi isn't his stepdaughter.
I can’t get over him marrying what essentially was his stepdaughter. My husband is not my girls biological father and if he married one of them, I don’t know what I would do.
WA and MF were never married. My guess is that both are atheists though Mia had some sort of reckoning post-Soon Yi and Woody and got some of her 14 kids Baptised. They always maintained separate apartments. It is sad that now nobody sees Mia's flaws...only Woody's, even though, I find both of them highly suspect and deeply flawed.
@Loulou Bos that's a technicality... he was seen a father figure growing up... so you think it ok to sleep with your gf daughter after she graduates HS??? Because that's what he essentially did... just because he didn't put a ring on it doesn't mean he didn't comfort he like a father growing up etc.
@@donnaross5105 I agree with you there. She is flawed. She came off really strange and her playing the videos she made of her daughter were really tasteless. He relationships with her children also seem off. I truly feel bad for all of them.
@Loulou Bos he’ s just the bio father of her freaking brother, what’s the big deal, right? 9_9
@Loulou Bos with your comment, you put emphasis that he was not a father figure to her. And I am just rolling my eyes hard.
Excellent and brave analysis Doc. Mia Farrow has a very dark parental history. We dont know but It's strange that several of her children have killed themselves.
And?
Broken childhood, 14 children, devout catholic, emotionally unstable, personality disorders... Simply said a crackpot, mad as a hatter.
@E Boston one overdosed and died at 17 after a fight with Mia. One shot himself. One died in hardship and pain but wouldn't ask Previn or Mia (her parents) for help that is 3. 2 were badly abused by Mia. That is 5. She is a monster.
@@AestheticallyCand she’s a monster.-
@@bigsistahtips but woody isn’t ?
You know life is screwed when a mother feels she has to make it a point "no you can't have sex with my kids" like wtf lol that's so sad
It is more common than you think.
@@thereal4113 Yeah, we had a psychiatrist that we consulted with once a month related to work and one day he casually mentioned that when he's had group counseling sessions, he's heard women casually mention sleeping with Dad. Sleeping in the bed with dad, as in it was so annoying when Dad would snore and wake me up. They acted like this was absolutely normal. Because when you're a kid, whatever is happening in your family is normal.
Is it so inappropriate to sleep in a bed with your dad whencyou're a kid???? He's your dad! I know there are sick parents but being this walled off from physical affection isn't everybody's culture.
@@Mehki227 I'm pretty sure that a kid sleeping in the same bed as his or her parent is pretty normal. Pretty much everyone I know has gone in to their parents room at one point or another to sleep with their parents.
Woody groomed Dylan, Soon-ye, and likely Mia
He does however have a great many traits of an extremely manipulative groomer of young women.
Grooming is a feature of every relationship. If there is no grooming then you are not in a relationship. So you are basically just saying he's a charismatic person. Other extremely manipulative groomers include Donald Trump, Barack Obama, Joe Rogan and Dr Todd Grande.
Isn't 'grooming a term used for pedophilic predation (hence predation of prepubescent children)? In what sense can a young adult be "groomed"? That seems to be an expansion of the idea that trivializes child abuse and also negates a young woman's ability to choose a consensual relationship for herself. A middle-aged man dating and marrying women who are decades younger might be sleazy by contemporary standards, but "groomer" seems like an exaggeration here.
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That’s nonsense and a disgusting, harmful thing to say. Grooming children for sexual abuse is real and a crime.
@@judyives1832 Exactly, and it is women with this this kind of cavalier attitude, which is why you cannot count on mom or women to protect children. Too often, they turn a blind eye, they don't believe their own children, and either actively or passively are participating in the abuse of their children. We read about it every single day in the newspaper and you're right, it's disgusting.
@@unitedfools3493 You're of course completely right but don't expect many thumbs up here lol. Even though you are replying to a comment that specifically says "young WOMEN", not children, you are still going to get a barrage of comments telling you that grooming kids is wrong and kid molesters should be shot. That's TH-cam comment section for you.
This whole debate reminds me of a Chris Rock joke about OJ Simpson. He said that if OJ had been a regular guy like a bus driver, no one would have been defending him. He'd be known as "OJ the bus-driving murderer". That's how I feel about Woody Allen right now. No way anyone of non-celebrity status does all the things known and witnessed by others without being seen as suspect and shady as all get out, *especially* with an accusation made by an adult child who has never changed her story.
AriD2385 - except that Dylan has changed her story several times, beginning with her first telling her pediatrician that Woody Allen had touched on the shoulder. Then Mia Farrow returned her to the same doctor one day later with a different account of where she had been touched.
OJ was guilty. Allen, perhaps. OJ is a turnstile-jumping murderer; Allen may merely be a man of low character.
But Mia doesn't seem credible, and Allen does. OJ confessed, but if you listen to the evidence here, you learn that there is "no evidence" of abuse.
OJ did it in a fit of rage. He did not like the idea of some young guy boning his wife.
There were no witnesses!!!!
When Farrow moved to Ireland, Satchel realised that the name is given to Irish children's school backpacks. Ronan was a great choice and the change was legal. I've always felt that Allen's relationship with Mia's adopted daughter was wrong, especially as Mia discovered it through finding hidden photographs of a naked Sunni. Some boundaries should not be breached.
Satchel was also the name of a famous baseball player.
He was named after Satchel Paige, Woody's favourite baseball player.
Mia admitted that he is "possibly" Frank's son. So that's false patrimony. Mia sure looks bad in all this.
3 of Mia's children killed themselves.
The pictures were not hidden. They were out in the open.
You must be young to not remember that we all used the word satchel to describe our book bags back in the days of yore! It’s GOOD to be young!!🌟
You don't think the themes of Allen's work (older man with much younger woman) and his relationship with SoonYi lean toward the idea that he could have been "grooming" Dylan? I think it's pretty likely that he groomed SoonYi. She was "barely legal" when the nude photos were discovered. But I understand the importance of the presumption of innocence and reasonable doubt.
Very good comment!!
She was 20 and a psychology major in university.
@@ember1794 why, it has inaccuracies
@@whychoooseausername4763 And he was her stepfather
@@whychoooseausername4763 she may have been 20, but her actual birthdate was never really known. She was an abandoned child and they just guessed. Also, its documented that when she was first adopted, she couldn't speak any language and had learning disabilities. Soon Yi herself has stated that she started spending time regularly with Allen when she was a junior in high school although, allegedly, the sexual relationship didn't start until after she graduated.
I just finished part 4 of the documentary. It's hard to really know 100% what happened but Allen seemed like a slimy guy who had boundary issues to begin with.
I’m not sure if he did it or not but at the very least he was extremely inappropriate.
Little more than boundary issues. He's a predator.
@@monsterultrawhite TRUE predators usually have multiple accusations against them
And why, then, knowing this, did Mia ALLOW him to be in her (their) life? When this happened, in the early 1990s, I read Maureen Orth's account in Vanity Fair. While allowing for the possibility that Allen is guilty of sexual misconduct with Dylan, I was appalled that Mia didn't have the sense, the strength, the morals, to kick Woody out of their lives...IMMEDIATELY! Instead, she tells all these instances of Woody's odd, inappropriate, and yes, SEXUALIZED behavior toward Dylan, yet, all the while, allowing Dylan to run around naked, or just in her panties, KNOWING Woody was too intensely focused on Dylan. I think Allen and Farrow are both strange. I don't know if Woody touched Dylan's private parts in the attack or not. I DO know that Mia had concerns about Woody's behavior with Dylan and failed to side...immediately with her children! Why? She loved being one half of New York's intellectual/artistic/cultural "power couple". She loved the fancy vacations, the money, the roles in his films, maybe the sex, the companionship. Even AFTER accusing Allen of abusing Dylan, she wanted to star in the MOVIE they were working on! He told her she was "nuts" (she is) and called Diane Keaton to do it instead. Again, I agree with Dr. Grande, there is reasonable doubt about Mia's claims. I don't think either Allen or Farrow are particularly stable or moral people. If Mia had been such a protective mother, imho, she would have not brought him into her huge family without being married. She would have filed for divorce when he (allegedly) put sunscreen slowly, through the cracks of Dylan's naked buttocks...and the kids would be wearing CLOTHES!! My parents never had my sister and me running around topless as kids. It is immodest. I sound old fashioned and, when it comes to family, I guess I am. Mia was starstruck and power/fame addicted and that's why she stayed with Woody despite her concerns. Thank you, Dr. Grande, for another excellent analysis.
I agree. But LEGALLY, it was never proven BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. People often confuse heavy emotional topics with actual legal guilt and this case is a real example of that. While I believe Dylan wholeheartedly, if I was on a jury with this evidence I would not be able to convict him.
Wherever you come out on the guilt or innocence of Woody. One thing is sure. He has horrible judgment.
Why? Soon Yi and Woody have been together for thirty years and adopted two girls, which never would have happened if he had done what Mia said. The adoption agency would check him AND. Soon Yi over and above. By the way, usually a pedophile doesn’t just stop one day. So Woody has never been accused again. Any consideration f that fact in your mind?
@@ecalose6785 Really? His bad judgement is taking up with his girlfriend's daughter. Woody didn't even break up with Mia. He went behind Mia's back and seduced Mia's daughter. Gross.
@@Meluvkatz you don’t know re Mias and Woodys relationship. At that point they were not sleeping together. So yes really. Gross? Mia went behind her best friends back and seduced her husband. She was 24 or thereabouts. Her friend? Dory Previn. Yes, tell me again how honorable Mia Farrow is. Please! You can’t because Mia isn’t?
@@Meluvkatz says Mia... who wanted to buy a kid from every continent and treat them like garbage...
Judgement doesn't exist when you're sick in the head & a worshipped Hollywood director.
10% of false accusations is very very low considering that most victims do not go to the police.
There has been 30 years for other "victims" of Woody Allen to go public. Not a peep from anyone, even in this Me Too era. There's a reason. He never sexually abused anyone, including Dylan. If you think that in his entire 86 years on this earth, Woody Allen abused a single person, a single time, at his estranged partner's home under the watch of a number of people, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
I, myself, believe Dylan. Long before she did an op Ed on her story. An interview he gave years ago that he gave convinced me. He spoke of very questionable behavior with other young girls.
@@kellidinit3725 Who is "he"?
@@gmh471 she. Dylan Farrow was the child that sparked the accusation. She is an adult now and released an Op Ed detailing her story.
Every man I know either has been falsely accused to a greater or lesser degree, or knows a close person who was.
My sweet husband was once threatened by a girl in high school to tell her older brothers he raped her if he didn’t ask her out. I had a boss who told me in high school he flirted with a girl at a party and she later told everyone he’d tried to rape her. My son’s teacher told me she’d falsely accused a neighbor man to “save” her father from suspicion when school authorities questioned her over her sexualized behavior. Her father and Uncle were guilty, but she didn’t want to get them in trouble…
I’m pretty sure false rape claims are exactly as common as real ones.
Seems to me that if he was taking photos of Soon Yi as a teen, he may have been grooming Dylan for the same thing...but then Farrow found the pics and all hell broke loose. If she hadn’t found them, would Allen have married SoonYi? Hard to know. If Farrow hadn’t it may have been Dylan he was taking pics of in a few years. My opinion is he’s a snake.
Exactly
FYI, Soon Yi wasn’t a teen when the photos happened. She was either 19 or 21. And Mia and Woody weren’t dating at that point.
@@livrobinson7212 19 is a teen. Yes, Mia and Woody were still a couple at that point.
@@Catbooks Not so fast. If Soon Yi was 14 or 15 or 16, then yes it is too young, but 19? A woman can get married at 19 without her parent's consent. A person can go fight in a war, vote, and do all of the things that any adult can do. Because 19 is an adult.
@@livrobinson7212 But he was an older man, in a position of power, who cheated on his partner with her daughter. To me, that says snake.
I don't really understand how a child is supposed to be believed then? The mum should continue a cordial relationship with the child abuser so as not to seem vindictive? And I don't get why allen's proven creepy actions with the daughter he married and the many reports of him acting creepy with Dylan don't count as evidence for him having these tendencies. I feel like we're too ready to excuse the creepy behavior of creepy men and try to find some benign explanation, when most of us know what normal parenting and a normal relationship between an adult and a child looks and feels like.
By the same token, you seem to be ready to excuse the testimony of other children in the family that reported that Mia was heavily coaching all of them. I agree with Dr Grande here. This story is too fishy.
@@andyiswonderful yeah, but Dylan is a grown ass woman now and she never changed her story. And it’s kinda fucking important what SHE has to say. Let’s not make her into some helpless child by assuming that she was manipulated by her mother. She is almost 30 now. She is a grown woman, with her own power and agency. This is something that dr Grande seems to have forgotten. I’m not saying that this situation is black and white, but there are so many excuses made for a man who married another adopted child of Mia Farrow.
@@nicolajane7389 if only we lived in a society where a woman's testimony was treated as fact and the rights of men meant nothing smh it's so unfair how a man can accuse a woman of abuse but have to provide evidence and yet if the situation is reversed and a woman accuses a man of abuse, she also has to provide evidence! How sexist is that?!
@@laythadrian5705 You do know this is a woman’s world don’t you? Ask any divorced man.
Exactly, thank you. I’m so disappointed in this analysis, as well as the leaving Neverland analysis.
Excellent analysis. Now brace yourself for all the people accusing you of merely being a Woody Allen fan because you don’t support their opinion.
That is not what they're doing. They use behavior and actions as evidence.
WOODY IS INNOCENT, AND MIA LIED.
I'm one of them!
It's funny bc I always thought he was a creep and overrated as a director but come on ppl, it's clear as day this was a bullshit accusation by a crazy woman. I think Mia was projecting, due to her brother being an actual pedo, I think it's likely she herself (Mia) had been abused.
How is Mia Farrow’s possible abuse against Soon-Yi Previn an argument in favor of Woody Allen’s innocence? Prévin’s abuse and Dylan’s abuse are compatible.
i was wondering how was the excuse "she was a scorned woman" a legit argument? it's not like he cheated on her with some actress in his movie, he cheated on her with her underage daughter! and an excuse for that is he wasn't parental with soon yi. he was in a relationship with mia for like 10 years. if he didn't have any parental relationship with her daughter during all that time, there's something wrong with him
Yup. One of Grandes ‘defence of the man’ arguments is that Mia was also horrible! Really?
@@tamaraaa993 Soon- Yi was not underage when they got romantically involved. Even Mia admitted that Woody was not a father figure to her in any way. She even encouraged Soon-Yi and Woody to spend more time with each other and try to develop a relationship. Something I am sure Mia really regrets now 😀
@@jobloggs7400 Woody Allen had unlimited resources with which to smear Mia and he did so at every opportunity.
@@tamaraaa993 SOON-YI WAS NOT UNDERAGE!!!
What is the psychological model for fabricated memories? 7 years old is old enough to remember a traumatic experience. Unless she is lying today, how does she fabricate a vivid memory?
I was wondering the same
If her mother told her enough, there is such a thing as memories that were “implanted.” I’ve experienced that myself. To this day, I question if I was sexually abused by a former uncle. My gut tells me yes, but I cannot be certain. I typically trust my gut instincts, as they never lead me astray, but I still cannot be certain.
@@iamcasihart yeah, but how does it works? How do you racall a vivid memory of something that didnt happen at an age when you already have memory?
Before the allegations Dylan was in therapy because she had trouble distinguishing reality from fantasy.
@@iamcasihart Totally right that we can’t be certain. Memories can be implanted- especially in young children. Mia Farrow has spent Dylan’s entire childhood reinforcing these “memories.” Dylan is indeed a victim- but not necessarily of Woody, but of her mother.
Woody Allen did change his story at least once: When told the police found evidence of his DNA in the attic, he said maybe he had been in there.
Well, it was his own attic so...
@@Somegirl811 It wasn't. It was Mia Farrow's attic in her country home. He'd made a big deal about how he couldn't and wouldn't have ever gone in it because he's a claustrophobe and a germaphobe. But his hair was found in it.
@@Catbooks Mia would have had access to Woody's hair.
@@Catbooks A hair is not like blood, semen or saliva because it can easily be transferred from one location to another, either on purpose or by accident. Even if it wasn't planted there by Mia, it could easily have been brought into the attic on someone else's clothing.
Statistically, it doesn't look good for Woody Allen. The FBI estimates only 8% of sexual assault accusations are proven false.
A level headed, objective analysis, based purely on research and facts. Bravo!
A very refreshing take and, hopefully, a lesson to the uneducated pitchfork weilders.
New York Times: A state's attorney in Connecticut said yesterday that he had "probable cause" to prosecute Woody Allen on charges that he sexually molested his adopted daughter, but had decided to spare her the trauma of a court appearance. The state's attorney in Litchfield, Frank Maco, said he had drawn up an arrest warrant for Mr. Allen, but then decided not to pursue the case. ~ PUBLISH DATE - September 25, 1993. - It is true that he was never tried.
I feel like at multiple occasions Dr. Grande thinks that kids have the ability to react like adults and that is actually pretty scary to me. He downplays the fact that parents are authority figues and that kids learn from those behaviors. Babies don't pop out of the womb with all the knowledge. I really would hate for him to analyze Mary-Kay Letorenau and blame Villi for not pushing Mary-Kay away.
I agree. Dr Grande tried to sound fair, matter of fact .. but he lost me with his “ logical “ takes of defending Woody Allen by talking negatively of how Mia taped Dylan’s narratives of what happened. Mia said it was a weekend and the psychiatrist/psychologists were away so she elected to tape Dylan ASAP. We all have to remember that this happened during a time when incests , pedophilia were not talked about , Woody Allen was (and still ) a very powerful, wealthy star/producer. People could not reconcile that their favorite,talented producer /star could be the bogey man we all had been warned about. Dr. Grande also failed to mention that the parental alienation syndrome written and heavily promoted by Dr Richard Gardner . Dr. Gardner’s writings were never reviewed by his peers because of his reputation in the scientific community . He also claimed in one of his writings that pedophilia has REPRODUCTIVE values and children often times INITIATE OR WERE the aggressor in these pedophilia cases ( these claims were with no valid researches to back them up).
Yes, I saw the same concerning response in Dr. Grande’s Chris D’Elia video, regarding his abuse of a high school girl. He said he hoped they could both move on. ?!
Yep, I couldn't even finish the video because he reminds me of the mental health professionals that made me worse after my cousin raped me. He has a bias that to me reads as he isn't emotionally willing to see the truth of how there is a minority of humans that have no empathy to the point they can do things you don't believe as you see it happening. They make your normal so toxic and our culture is so abusive. Set up by abusive people that had no respect for boundaries for other abusive people to thrive. For me, it finally ended in 2015 when my last ex beat me unconscious because he was normalizing giving me concussions if I said or did something he didn't like. After a few months of that he beat me unconscious in my childhood bedroom (video on my channel) and I woke up to him laughing over my body. I realized he was capable of killing me and acting like that and I finally called the police for the first time in my life. The first time I was assaulted was 11 on public transit where a man humped me until he was hard and I felt this stick trying to poke my butt hole while in a crowded bus or something and I was talking to my dad who didn't notice. These people get off on that shit. I wish he would look into the dark web and look for what is capable because it doesn't look like he realizes what is actually happening. Like how kids like me were 12 the first time they were raped and even younger. We feel that he has a bias and I know he would have been one of the therapists I would not have told because I didn't feel safe with them. I also have recordings because I am an artist so my instinct is to record. I see that while my memory is not accurate, what I don't remember are things like names I was called. During the 1:38 min recording of me being beaten, there is a part where we left the room that I don't remember but I do remember leaving the apartment when he beat me against a tree outside. It's like my brain was just trying to delete what it could so I didn't overload and implode. I was just trying to survive the way I did the other times, freeze and huddle in a ball and babble about love. I still remember things like when he slipped my rib but I thought he broke it as he stomped on me. Now the trauma from childhood I don't have recordings of and I probably forgot details. But when he watched me sleeping at his brother's wedding I remembered him doing that after the rape as well. I def want to work on ways of helping the profession to evolve so we support GROWTH and Maturity instead of further traumatizing us. What is logical to me is working to admit the truth faster so I can work on seeing my weakness so I can grow stronger emotionally and cope in healthier ways with challenges. I send you all love and I hope you cope well with the challenges you face today 🌈💖
Plus in my experience, innocent people don't do things like marry their adopted daughter or tell their son they will give them more money if they publicly support them... His movies are grooming culture to accept his behavior when you look deeper and these manipulations are everywhere which is why I think so many of us are fed up. I am tired of all the attempted brainwashing crap and I just want to keep working towards getting healthier. Like if you agree!
What is the truth and what is healthier than that? I highly recommend asking yourself that because my life has really improved when it comes to fulfillment since that became my focus.
@Infinite Jeff Yes, that is true. But he does ask for questions and comments, as he welcomes a dialogue. I think a respectful discussion is interesting and from what I understand, Dr. Grande does too.
Not sure I agree that this is an isolated incident when he went on to marry Farrow's other child, Soon Yi. He took naked photographs of her when she was a teenager, then married her. Speaks volumes.
They're still married though. What does that speak of? One would think he would've remarried someone younger ages ago if that was his thing.
@@tumppuman irrelevant, victims stay with their abusers all the time
The volume is so loud... it hurts my 👂
@UCjD2hJPmZKRmkrNgkyS4xhg soon yi is not Woody’s step daughter. He never married Mia. Soon Yi and the older kids’ dad is Andre Previn. Woody only adopted Moses and Dylan (plus his bio kid Ronan)
@Andy UGoonie Being with 18 year olds at his age is still predatory.
Hey all you Farrow fans....explain one thing for me; How is offering a settlement of $7,000,000 to make the allegations "go away" caring about justice for Dylan? Please somebody explain that.
EXACTLY!! As for not respecting "boundaries", Mia got herself impregnated by her close family friend (Dory Previn)'s husband, Andre', who LEFT Dory for Mia! Some "family friend"!
@@donnaross5105 Yes and Dory tried to warn Woody about Mia when they got together that she was not to be trusted...too bad he didn't listen.
And why have they never pursued in civil court? There are just too many questions...
@@cjsligojones5101 Really? I didn't know that, but I'm not surprised.
Your balanced and informative insights on this complex situation are much appreciated. Your comments made me realize how very little I know about this case.
This was not balanced. Dr. Grande needs to educate himself.
I find his morality to be,,,, lacking. I don’t want to speculate on Dylan, either way she lost. I also can’t imagine the pain of being a survivor and hearing someone say they think you are lying because you were manipulated or being accused of something you didn’t do. I usually enjoy your analysis but I should have sat this one out, I feel so conflicted.
Me too. Better just to not give an opinion. Men rarely believe the victims. Very heartbreaking.
Yes, just so unnerving while it was currently happening. A time I now can’t bear to remember. I have had immeasurable revulsion for Woody ever since. So horribly sad for those children.
Yeah, same
@@jessbobess2530 His bias was clear within the first few minutes. He should stay away from commenting on anything to do with child sexual abuse and child predators, because he doesn't know what he's talking about.
@@Catbooks yeah, but he’s a psychologist. It’s fucking terrifying that psychologist posts shit like this online.
I feel like this guy missed a couple of key notes from the documentary, I really urge people to watch it and not just his analysis so you really get the full scope
Just a bit of speculation here, not analysis; the term ""key notes" is subjective and
@@robertgiles9124 no, when I say key notes, i mean that when he’s going over the data from the documentary he’s really missing some notes that would change how his statements come off. Like when he said that the documentary paints Moses statements contradicting the statements of the other children. That Dr. here doesn’t mention that it also contradicts Moses statements that he made to the police at the time when the event was going on. Also the Dr. here doesn’t mention how another study/interview was done after the yale report, where they claimed dylan to be telling the truth and that one of the yale report experts told the person doing the new study that she also believed dylan and not the decision they had made in the report. Again I really urge people to watch the whole documentary for themselves because this guy isn’t giving the full picture
@@davidcummings4383 Grande is very careful. I don't think I've ever heard him come to a conclusion based on speculation. Every time I watch one of his videos I almost hope he would. But he's a professional, not Nancy Grace.
@@jrbr549 i think thats fine. But I don’t like it when people leave out facts from the documentary that contradict their points. I always think it’s best to watch the whole thing yourself and you make your judgement than to just listen to someone else only give a 20 minute review on a 4-5 hour documentary. I’m not saying don’t listen to him, but do both cuz I do think he’s missing some key points
@@jrbr549 I usually agree with how Dr. Grande weighs in but I’m actually going to have to agree that key facts actually negate many of the reasons he cited as proof of Allen’s innocence :/ I’d also have to say to watch the doc yourself, I’ve watched **all** of the docs videos but this is the most misrepresented one I’ve seen him put out. Surprising
The documentary dismisses the allegations of the adult Moses because they contradict the statements that Moses gave to the investigators at the time. Moses claimed as an adult that he kept track of everyone in the house the day of the alleged assault, but that’s not what he told investigators.
Most people believe Ronan isn't actually Woody's son, since he actually looks like another person Mia was supposedly romantically involved with...
and woody has no other biological children, not even with soon-yi.
Frank Sinatra. He absolutely looks like old blue eyes to me.
@@fallonvennell2607 Yeah he does. And NOTHING like Woody.
He is very smart. I would suppose he got that from Allen.
Frankie boy
Allen strikes me as someone who IF he was an abusive type, he'd be a particularly pathetic type of abuser that would somehow manipulate the victim to think that she was taking advantage of him. Again this is hypothetical
I guess his movies (though I happen to like some of them) are telling a lot about him.
@@Sweet.Mother.of.Cheesus If movies were the basis to judge someone's character and real life, it should be a good idea to investigate Scorsese and Tarantino. Would be good to see what violent evil lurks beneath their work. Suddenly, the Oscar for Driving Miss Daisy doesn't seem that bad.
@@rickyv
Tarantino as a person isn't particularly violent. He does have quiet a foot fetish tough, which can be observed in most of work. Just like Woody Allen's fascination with younger girls
Allen is extremely intelligent and this wouldn’t surprise me
You strike me as a rather gullible soul who believes what Mia planned and carried out. But this is just a hypothetical.
Allen has been sus for 40 years.
And those nasty ass films with him touchy on younger woman who *throw* themselves at him in the story line 🤮
Hes an imposter
@@ijustchangedmyname7794 WA has made 50 films to date. Please name those "nasty ass" films you are referring to.
@Nothing To See Here Really? Please name these actresses
The imposters here are the money grubbing dishonest makers of this classic of the misinformation industry, this so-called "documentary"
I trust Dr. Grande's judgement quite a lot, but I have a hard time believing that Ronan is Woody's bio dad.
Major quibble: the molestation allegation was not "right after" the discovery of the Soon-Yi affair, it was 7 months later.
Minor: the nanny was Alison Stickland , not StRickland, & she could not explain when testifying why she had changed their story.
WOODY WAS FALSELY ACCUSED PLAIN & SIMPLE. Mia SHOULD BE IN JAIL, FALSE ALLEGATIONS ARE EPIDEMIC, ABOUT 95% of rapes are LIES.
Seems very easy to normalize a creepy behavior, such as marrying your girlfriend’s adopted daughter while there’re serious doubts the “relationship” started while she was a minor... he was over 60!! But of course, he was Woody Allen. I know it’s not a crime, but speaks volumes of his moral and boundaries. And it seems that Dylan’s mistake was to be a child when the abuse occurred... too easy to destroy her story especially 20 years ago. How many cases Dr. Grande analyzed before given more credit to a behavior like this. We know that the fact he wasn’t found guilty in a trial is not all, we know better than that, how easily money, power, connections can influence a verdict and society opinion.
It seems that no one can separate the, albeit unusual, relationship between Allan and Previn, with paedophilia. The two are diametrically opposed. If law no longer matters then there's no hope for anyone. All Dylan needs in either case is to be given support to heal, not to be paraded in front of the world to punish her mum's ex. Dylan has become her trauma, where is the healing for her? When will she be put first?
The relationship started when Soon-Yi was 21 and Wood Allen was 56. A big age gap for sure, but only slightly more than the age gap for Mia Farrow and her previous marriage to Frank Sinatra (21 and 50 respectively).
@@rory7590 Exactly! No one usually mentions that. Good point.
@@rory7590 What makes it even creepier is that both Soon-Yi and Mia were children when they met their respective husbands.
Soon-Yi was 10 years old when she first met Woody, who was dating her mom Mia.
Mia Farrow was 11 years old when she first met Frank Sinatra, who was married to Ava Gardner, the woman whom Mia’s father had an affair with:
*”I had met Frank Sinatra eight years earlier, when I was eleven, having dinner with my father at Romanoff’s restaurant. ‘Pretty girl’, he had joked, and my father returned, ‘You stay away from her’.”*
- “What Falls Away” by Mia Farrow
Not to bog you down with too many facts, but WA was never on trial. He was never charged with nor found guilty of any crime, because the child abuse investigative teams (2 independent ones at that) concluded that the allegations of sexual abuse were completely unfounded, i.e., no crime was committed. One team went so far as to say that they believed that Dylan had likely been coached by her mother and they recommended therapy for Mia. Furthermore, there was (and is!) absolutely no evidence to support the argument that WA influenced anyone with his money or power during these investigations. However, it is interesting to see how power (that of Ronan and Mia) is influencing society's opinion today. Ah, yes, "how easily money, power, [and] connections can influence a verdict and society['s] opinion" in this age of social media.
One final comment: If you don't pay attention to the facts here, then you run the risk of persecuting an innocent man. Are you comfortable with that?
Ronan Farrow described a situation where Allen conditioned financial support for college and lifestyle based on supporting Allen's innocence and Farrows guilt. An option would be that Moses took Allen's deal of a similar offer of financial support for writing a letter that supports Allen and makes allegations of abuse against Farrow.
I was going to mention this too! Moses stuck with his story for YEARS, well into adulthood, before switching up.
Right!! I’m just like why did Dr. Grande leave these parts out??
I wondered why moses chose not to take part in the documentary. As manipulative as his adoptive father. Use his money to get brilliant education and then turn on the snake!
@@Inner_wild_child because it didn’t fit his biased narrative. But he was so calm, so of course he must be unbiased
@@fghdrdthtgfghjhdf2540 , I also got the impression that Dr Grande is biased and leaned towards Woody Allen in his video. He also never mentioned that Dr Gardner , the one would pushed the Parental Alienation Syndrome also is for pedophilia . He wrote that pedophilia is good for reproductive goals and wrote that children are often times the aggressor or initiators of these pedophilia cases. His writings were never backed up by comprehensive research nor were they reviewed by his peers.
Soon Yi Previn was 21 and Woody Allen was 56 when they started their relationship. He was never married to Mia Farrow even though they were romantically involved. Previn and Allen have been married since 1997. As screwed up as it is, this shouldn’t be minimized either; Previn wasn’t a minor when she became romantically involved with Allen. They were both consenting adults. Previn is 50 and Allen is 85 at present. Lasted longer than a lot of Hollywood or celebrity marriages. No I don’t agree with it, but not going to the judge either.
No indication he would be inclined to that kind of behaviour???? Really guy?
I think 2 inappropriate relationships is enough of a tendency to me. On top of his willingless to cross lines and obvious dishonesty on the phone calls to Mia.
Also no mention of the second report and the attempted cover up... that's convenient
Even if Woody Allen didn't assault Dylan, he is an absolute creep and that's enough to turn me off from watching any of his movies.
not to mention all of the women who said he tried to take it further with them when they were young actresses. he's vile.
@@sharonsekhon9475 How many women said that?
@@rl12345 how many does it take? ONE is enough.
@@sharonsekhon9475 How about none?
You say Allen never changed his story, with regards to admitting assault this is true, but Allen's story did change early on. He initially told police he had never even been in that attic crawl space in his life, but later changed his story to say perhaps he stuck his head in a couple of times after police found his hair in the attic
You're lying. There is nothing like this in the Supreme Court document, only in Maureen Orth's 10 UNDENIABLE FACTS ABOUT THE WOODY ALLEN SEXUAL-ABUSE ALLEGATION: 8. Allen changed his story about the attic where the abuse allegedly took place. First, Allen told investigators he had never been in the attic where the alleged abuse took place. After his hair was found on a painting in the attic, he admitted that he might have stuck his head in once or twice. A top investigator concluded that his account was not credible.
The facts Maureen Orth cites as “undeniable” are either flat-out false, entirely deniable, or misleading and irrelevant due to the fact that Orth purposely omits other, more important facts that cast doubt on the allegations. As it wasn't enough, According to Maureen Orth herself: I remember, for the legal fact-checking process on the Woody Allen piece, I was in a room with the fact-checkers for eight hours. They weren’t going to allow the piece to be published until I had a written letter from Mia Farrow saying if we did get sued, she would be a witness to say what I had said was the truth from her point of view.
Everyone can Google: Why Maureen Orth’s 10 Undeniable Facts About The Woody Allen Sexual-Abuse Allegation Is Complete Bunk. and go to the fact 8 for a complete refutation.
"It takes special training in mental health to evaluate sexual abuse claims made by children" - *America scoffs, looks away*
There was forensic police evidence compiled by CT state PD. Judge ultimately denied him custody.
And two forensics studies disregarded Dylan’s testimony.-
It's court custom to award custody to the mother. It takes a powerful persuasion to take children from the mother. Unless CFS is involved. They can take anyone's kids for any reason.
I have followed this story for many years. I am not a fan of Woody Allen, but I cannot discern if he is guilty or not beyond a reasonable doubt. If nothing else he certainly has made some questionable decisions. He has been convicted in the court of public opinion.
I agree - I can’t discern whether he is guilty or not. One thing that makes me wonder is that except for Dylan no other victims have come forward.
Too bad it doesn't mean anything because he still gets to make films ... he hasn't been hurt by his actions... neither has Roman Polanski!
They both still get to do what they love... sans any real consequences...
I'd say it is unclear if the assault occurred. It is crystal clear he is not guilty beyond reasonable doubt. That's a high bar and there is a lot of doubt.
because people think like wo-MEN, today, logic dictates Mia coached the kids to LIE, investigators concluded.
HE WAS DECLARED INNOCENT ON A COURT OF LAW. PUBLIC OPINION DOESN'T MEAN DIDDLY SQUAT
I DGAF about Mia or Woody, They are both POS. However, Woody seducing
Mia’s adoptive daughter is perverted.
Then why watch this tape if you (and I quote “DGAF”?).
I didn’t watch it. People who ASSume make an ass of themselves.
@@nursecece03 Well, if you didn't watch this video, and by inference didn't bother to try and educate yourself a little more on the subject, then you are the one making assumptions based on things you know nothing about..Allen didn't 'seduce' Soon Yi. Perverted? They have over twenty years of marriage, two daughters, a happy home life, not even a whiff of any kind of scandal, that's what you deem perverted? You obviously do give a fuck, otherwise you wouldn't have replied to the last comment in a defence and hostile manner.
@@AnthonyMonaghan I’m a native New Yorker and lived through all the headlines/stories/courtroom drama about the Woody Allen Mia Farrow.
I believe it’s perversion when a man, like Woody Allen, becomes involved with a woman, like Mia Farrow, who has an 8 year old daughter, like Soon-Yi Previn. Allen is/was considered a father figure by all. Then approximately 13 years of being with Allen, Farrow discovers he is having a sexual relationship with Soon-Yi. Allen is approximately 57 years old.
I consider this perversion.
The fact that Allen and Soon-Yi are still married does not take away from the creepiness of a father figure having seen this girl grow up seduces her.
We all have dysfunctional lives but the Allen, Farrow, Soon-Yi, is very unusual.
It’s my opinion and I have a right to it.
If you don’t like it, keep on moving on.
@@nursecece03 people keep trying to justify that relationship with... well there was never a hint of scandal in the many years they were married. Like ok if we are using that as a yard stick then why doesn't every step dad marry and have kids with the step daughters that they raised?! If it's so okay with everyone... GTFOH!! Y'all know it crosses a taboo boundary and saying that they are married so it's all good is just plain silly and kind of says more about your own morals.
If he would have met her as a 20/22 year old and NOT when she was a kid then he would just me a typical rich old dude doing what they do... but he was around for her primary years and that's what makes it sick. Why can't people see that?
Thank you for tackling this complicated topic. This is certainly one of your most complex analysis and you didn’t disappoint a bit. Always on the side of reason and common sense (which isn’t always popular as we can see here in the comments). Congratulations, well done 👍
I agree. Dr. Grande, this is one of your Most trenchantly seriously analytical works I’ve seen videos ever. And you can hear it in your voice how serious you took the situation. I hate child abuse but I never believed he did it and would be more likely for me to believe it do it given my predilection against it. But the evidence just was never there and I’ve read a lot on it. I never felt good about the proximity of her finding out about his relationship with her adopted daughter and then her accusing him … I remember at the time it was just a matter of days. It just left you wondering at the time and still today what was really going on there with her? The fact of the matter is he was never charged. That tells you a lot right there. Thank you, Dr. Grande … I thought this piece was a real service on behalf of the community.
Thank you for taking the time to do this video.
As someone who follows the Woody Allen case since 2018, I have only support for Woody Allen.
And here are my reasons why I stand with him.
1)Dylan Farrow switched the abuse locations multiple times over the years (tv room, staircase, etc.); which shows she doesn't make sense.
2)The idea of attacking Dylan during a custody battle doesn't make sense.
3)Mia Farrow claiming first thing first that Woody had assaulted Soon-Yi Previn.
4)Sordid history in the Farrow family of violence and abuse, such as her brother John Charles Villiers-Farrow who was arrested and jailed for abuse on two children. Whereas nothing in Woody's family.
5)Abuse accounts from Soon-Yi and Moses Farrow regarding Mia Farrow. Both of them denouncing her as a "Mommy Dearest".
6)The constant surveillance of Woody by everyone in the Farrow house, including Moses. Which would have made it impossible for Woody to hurt Dylan.
7)No sign of abuse after medical investigations.
8)Shifted story from the nanny.
9) Dylan Farrow's habit of reinventing her story and her problem of making difference between fantasy and reality. Alongside her mom's manipulative/invasive videotape recordings and personal statements.
10)Overcontrolling nature of Mia on her kids. Alongside her demeaning nature of Soon-Yi Previn by calling her vile names when Soon-Yi is very intelligent, mature, and educated.
11)The statement "I like to cheat on my stories." from Dylan.
12)The train set being claimed by Dylan as a small train set, but as revealed by the nanny, it was a massive model for a child to sit on and to travel around rails. A set used in the living room, Mia's room and in any big space.
Which would make its use in the attic small space impossible.
13)Woody had no problem adopting his kids. And his private life has always been pristine and exemplary. Whereas Mia's life has always been plagued with problems. Especially with her adopted children who either died or which she neglected and abandoned.
14)The authorities investigations were extensive and rigorous. And the authorities were very unpleasant toward Woody.
15)The manipulative and tabloid nature of Ronan Farrow
16)The culture of Mia Farrow of reprojecting on others what she did (Especially her history of hurting others).
17)Judge Wilkes's history of thoughtless decision.
18)Maureen Orth's presence in the battle (dubious behaviour, lies, bias on Mia, and attacks on others like Michael Jackson with BS and racist lies)
19)Dylan saying to the paediatrician for the first time that Woody only touched her shoulder.
20)Dylan's "Mommy wants me to lie." statement.
21)Dylan saying on Oct 30 that she recanted her testimony. With Mia saying to the social workers that nothing had happened to her. That Woody did not hurt her.
22)Dylan's flagrant inconsistencies both as a child and as an adult. Her habit of treating her "trauma" as a "spectacle show."
23)Dylan, Mia, and Ronan exploiting this situation like prima donnas. Always courting cameras and hogging the spotlight while Woody is silenced.
24)60 minutes Video
25)Woody never having any history of violence or abuse in his private, professional, and personal life.
26)Woody's claustrophobia making him incapable of entering that attic small space.
27)Conflicting testimonials of the babysitters regarding Woody and Dylan. One of them saying the actress pressured her to attack Woody Allen.
28)Soon-Yi's concerns and facts about Mia Farrow and her violence toward Soon-Yi.
29)Mia's sordid way of treating her adopted kids like toys and political/PR images, constantly renaming them.
30)Mia's game of reinventing her history and life to her image and narcissism.
31)The nannies denouncing Mia as a bully who ordered the adopted children to be domestics and servants and who assaulted them. While the biological ones were well treated.
32)Soon-Yi and Moses both confirming Mia was violent. Alongside the nannies.
I could go on, but the thing is that one only has to look at the history of the people involved to notice that the ONLY ones with serious problems and disturbing closets are the Farrows. And recently, the Farrows were spotted online attacking not only Michael Jackson, but also Johnny Depp. These people from the Farrow clan are opportunists who just exploit whatever hate trends is occuring in the medias for their PR and opportunism. But by attacking Johnny Depp and Michael Jackson, it motivated the Woody Allen fans to express support for Michael and Johnny. Furthermore, MJ fans were quite angry to see them and Michael Jackson being attacked in the documentary. As a result, the Michael Jackson and Woody Allen activists have stood together and shared facts on Woody Allen's case, allowing more people to know the facts about this case and Woody's life. Since then, many people have started doing their researches and documentaries over this case and the support for Woody Allen has grown stronger than ever.
Have you seen the documentary "By the Way Woody Allen is Innocent" ? It covers extensively the many facts about Woody Allen and his situation with Mia Farrow.
Again thank you for this video. Have a nice week. Sincerely, Simon
Anything done to children is the darkest most vile act ever! No excuses. It is absolutely important we as adults remember this and protect them every single second of every day.
Did you know that police budgets concerning youth under present laws can only in all practicality help to protect young people from being forced to experience statutory rape up to age 30? In addition police budgets to stop stalking behavior have had to be increased over time since the 1960's making it a lot more difficult to keep all police response times low. As more gadgets are being bought around town by more landlords in every village, town and big cities now it is not a far stretch of the imagination to assume that a lot of those drones out there too in addition to all of the nanny cams being used by a lot of parents right now some of which are being owned by bored rich landlord retirees who have hired a property management company who is going to be responsible for doing all of the hiring of trades people to do the real work of being a landlord who are not just out there hoping to stake out lucrative properties for sale. Believe it or not some of those property management companies are only being run by young ladies married to - -You guessed it - An older richer than her landlord. Not all those landlords are guilty. In this case I have no opinion one way or another.
Every single second of every day! Get in your helicopter and good luck with that.
Okay so I was a little dramatic and obviously it's impossible to keep children safe every second, but our society doesn't take it seriously enough.
@@francesbernard2445 How can a person be protected from statutory rape up to age 30? He/she has been of age for 32 years. That is not statutory rape.
@@jennyclark6183 It is a law written in the law books somewhere. Doesn't get enforced much.
he did start the "relationship" on the sly with other adopted daughter. Where did he take those photos? A level of creepy that is hard to comprehend.
yes. incredibly awful behavior. but not really evidence about the accusation.
@@dec23 soon yi is now middle aged and has spoken about everything that happened then and now. Interesting how nobody is interested in hearing her voice or listening to her. Only in speaking for her and labeling her against her will?
@Loulou Bos Then let's open the flood gates to all men who want to groom children, as long as it isn't their daughter adoptive or otherwise.
His creepiness oozes out in his films , He’s obsessed with underage girls , I can see it in his films but somehow this is “ Art”
An analysis of Roman Polanski would also be interesting. Allen reminded me of him...
Are you aware that Mia Farrow praised and defended Roman Polanski for decades?
@@davidsheriff9274 Those Hollywood people are a bad lot.
Polanski did a plea bargain and admitted guilt to having sexual intercourse with a minor, that is, rape of a child. The bargain meant he avoided 5 other charges. More pertinent would be analysis of those who continued to work with him for decades and his films being distributed and viewed around the world. It's been so hard to understand how a self confessed child molester has not only not been brought back to face justice but has been feted by many.
@@fionamclaren8506 This case is more complicated, he did make a plea bargain for the lesser crime and spent 42 days in prison under an psychiatric evaluation (it was originally supposed to be 90) - then released on probation. The lawyer & Polanski believed that was the end of it based on assurances from the judge-- but then a rumor started that the judge changed his mind and was going to deport him and demand more jail time. I don't know if that was due to public pressure at the time, but Polanski fled the country at this point. The maximum jail time for that crime was 12 months. Is that normal to make a plea deal spend time in prison, then get released on probation and then have to go back to prison?? It's not making sense. I'm not making excuses for his behavior, but in my mind he completed his sentence.
A COMPLETELY different case and situation. Nothing in common AT ALL.
He married her, soon yi, so that it wouldn't look bad. Isn't it. Why isn't anyone talking about the fact that for this to happen Allen had to do it to soon yi when she was young.
I completely agree, he was with Mia for 12 years and no marriage even though they had a baby, but this happens and all of a sudden it's love and they get married. It's very smokescreen to me.
@@littletrebleclef yes exactly that's what I felt.
Soon'Yi Previn was 21 when they started their relationship
@@august6389 sure, even though plenty have testified to her going over to his place when she was in high school
Do you find Allen’s Laser focus on Dylan emotional abuse. How do you assess someone in a romantic relationship taking nude photos of their partners daughter? I don’t think Woody Allen makes great movies but I’m a woman so maybe that colors my judgement.
His relationship with Soon Yi is creepy by any standard. However, it’s important to know that she was an adult when she engaged in her relationship with Woody Allen. The word Mia Farrow‘s daughter makes it sound like she was a child at the time. The fact that they have maintained a long and healthy relationship since that time and throughout all of this nightmare would indicate that although the relationship may be unorthodox it seems to be a loving and stable one. Everyone should read Woody Allen’s memoir where he goes into a great deal of detail telling his side of the story. This is just a four hour hectic job. He pretends to examine the issue but it only tells one side of it
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She was not an adult when he took naked pictures of her and if you believe that’s all he did then I have some stuff to sell you. They say the relationship didn’t start until she was of age but the pictures are proof that it started much earlier.
@Roodi Graffoodi Technically its not incest and there's a world of difference between 9 and 19. It may be unusual but they are happy to this day so it should be nobody else's business.
@@judyives1832 Where are these pictures, and how did you date manage to date them? Sounds like a clear cut crime to me, if this has been proven.
@@judyives1832 the pictures were found when Soon-Yi was a twenty one year old college freshman. If you believe that the pictures were taken when she was a minor, can you present some evidence to back that up.
His relationship will Soon Yi has NOTHING to do with the allegations against him.
Being adopted, this story always bugged the heck outta me. Bc youre not in a position to argure with anybody.
I really recommend following Moses Farrow on Instagram and here on TH-cam. He's a therapist with a speciality in adoption trauma (three of his siblings died - two from suicide (one by gun shot another an overdose) and one died alone in poverty from AIDS - she didn't want to be resuscitated). Two other siblings - Soon-Yi and Moses claim abuse on their own behalf and with memories of their fellow non-white adoptees in their family. Moses' story is hard to listen to - it's very brutal, traumatic and he clearly is still suffering from the abuse but he has so many wise words and does some wonderful online discussions with fellow adoptees. He is an awesome advocate for adoptees and presses for those considering adoption to address their own issues first before perpetuating generational abuse.
@@lornam3637 moses tried to say that his adopted sister having a DNR in the midst of a grave personal illness, was the same as suicide. I think every voice needs to be heard, but some people are so hurt and in pain that they can't accept change or a multi-layered reality. he fixates on the adoptee experience but doesn't help himself or anyone else by compartmentalizing and taxonomizing outside of cross-cultural comparison and statistical norms... he just takes a line of thought and runs with it pretty irrationally. he doesn't look at the origins of adoption in the region... colonialism, racism, white savior complex, he stops short at the narrative rather than the root cause. i think hes telling his truth but not considering anyone else's. a dnr is not suicide. a human taking agency and making a decision for themselves is dignified and respectable... even if you don't agree. but in his hurt... it is. 'she didn't have any other choice. she was sad. she couldn't see the light BECAUSE OF MIA.' we all have complicated relationships with our parents. parents of adopted children will not always know what to do just like parents of any child biological or otherwise do not always know what to do. but what is abuse and what is not? it is abusive to groom your ADOPTED daughter FOR MARRAIGE. it is abusive to hit your children. which is worse? if you are moses... they are in love so no big deal. but hitting a child is disgusting. sorry but there are plenty of children who are corporally punished at some point in their lives by one or more parent(s). MARRYING YOUR FATHER FIGURE... even if it feels good... IS ABUSE ON HIS PART. Moses Farrow has an important story to tell, but i don't see it as the whole story, because he does a terrible job of acknowledging some GLARING issues in the narrative he and his wealthy self-interested friends have created. LOVING FATHERS DO NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH ANY OF THEIR CHILDREN. HEALTHY MEN DO NOT RATIONALIZE SEXUALIZING THE CHILDREN AROUND THEM. HEALTHY MEN DO NOT ASK OTHER CHILDREN TO DEFEND THEIR SEXUALIZING OF TEENAGE GIRLS IN THE HOME. HEALTHY MEN DO NOT GROW UP AND CONTINUE DEFENDING THAT BEHAVIOR BECAUSE NOW THAT THEY ARE OLDER WITH THEIR OWN CHILDREN THEY SEE HOW WRONG THAT IS.
Moses is not healthy or rational, he's in pain. And as the family showed, he has been in pain for decades. Adopted children want to be loved so badly; the hollywood model of adopting 10 kids is utopic but unrealistic in fulfilling each of those children's individual needs. Even if he doesn't believe that allen was in the attic that day, abusing his baby sister, why doesn't he have any qualms about the betrayal of marrying his other sister? of cheating on his mother? of creating this rift in his family? he's hurt. mia was such a push over when it came to older men she was dating. she saw them as intellectuals... experienced... protectors. she's not without fault. but ANYONE dismissing these OBVIOUS signs of predatory behavior from allen... how can you? just how? DO YOU ALL TRULY BELIEVE the sex didn't start SEVERAL years before they were caught with raunchy photos? Remember these were polaroids not selfies in the privacy of a bedroom. He had her trust because he was grooming her for YEARS and you better believe HE GROOMED THAT WHOLE FAMILY. he knew what he was doing. they always do.
@@SoVerySasa Soon-Yi Previn's father figure was her adoptive father - the famous composer Andre Previn. It is, of course, terrible to marry your ex-girlfriend's daughter but she was college-age. It isn't the same thing at all as child abuse (of a very young child). Having to strip and stand naked in front of one's siblings is sexual abuse. Two of Moses' siblings committed suicide, Lark Song died alone. If you doubt Moses because he is an adoptee, why do you believe Dylan. I believe Dylan. I think she thinks this happened to her. But the different child authorities think the evidence isn't there. In fact they are so confident that Soon-Yi and Woody Allen were allowed to adopt two daughters - both of whom grew up without abuse and defend their beloved father. Putting myself in Mia's shoes, I can't understand why she says she would never forgive her daughter if she thinks she was groomed. The love of a parent is unconditional.
@@lornam3637 if u actually watched the documentary you are WRONG. though previn was her adoptive father they were not close as she was adopted right before they divorced. allen was her father figure and the only man regularly at the home while she was growing up. HE WAS ALSO THE ADOPTIVE FATHER OF HER SIBLINGS. he was indeed the father figure and you trying to minimize that is part and parcel of the PROBLEM.
he repeatedly talks about how "soon yi is sullen" to mia... this was to get mia to suggest he spend some time with her. don't be obtuse. he's a predator NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
Uncertainty is not all we have. There are levels of uncertainty and certainty. Like 90% certainty that Mia Farrow is the monster and 10% certainty that Woody Allen is. I'm being inordinately generous to Mia Farrow with those numbers.
Also interesting... 3 of the children Mia adopted have died.
So you think Dylan is still making false allegations now as an adult?
She may not even be aware that it is false. Mia Farrow has given positive reinforcement for Dylan’s entire life for talking about this abuse story. I think Allen is creepy AF, but I don’t think he did what he is accused of here.
To her, they are not false. In reality, they are delusions.
@@dec23 they're both lies. He never adopted her and she wasn't in her teens. You're 0-2.
I don’t. This has irritated me. And this speak of how it’s Dylan’s memory rather than the truth!
@@miajackson3559 I also find it disturbing that people are willing to believe a man who became involved with and then married his partner's child, over a credible adult woman's account of what happened to her when she was 7 years old. Those who are trying to discredit what Dylan's awareness was as a child aren't considering that she is an adult now, remembering the same experience. She knows whether she was violated or not. ( And to those who want to defend his marriage, because she was of age and not his legal daughter, keep in mind that Soon Yi was his girlfriend's 10 year old child when they met ).
Something happened. Dylan is having to live with the ramifications of that for the rest of her life.
Yes. Nothing happened.
So you have evidence that something happened?
@@jasonm1288 no, just my supposition. It’s not a trial lol, I’m allowed to share my thoughts 😁 thankfully
She's living the ramifications of her monster of a mother. If she was sexually abused, it was likely by someone else. Look at the work of Robert Weide and Justin Levine, in print and on TH-cam. Read the accounts of Moses Farrow. Watch the Rick Worley two hour piece on TH-cam. At worst, you should be convinced that the HBO series was a Farrow produced hit piece and a hagiography of Mia.
@@jasonm1288 the suffering is blatant. But what is it ? I don't know, nobody knows, she might not be able to know herself anymore.
If Mia thought Woody had issues, why wouldn't she do everything to protect her daughter? Why not make sure he was watched every second he was there? I have trouble believing that she had all these issues with Woody before it happened, yet did absolutely nothing to stop what she alleges happen.
Sadly, it's an all too common pattern. I don't know in this case (someone also said she did reach out, before?), but often mothers who drift towards abusers have also been abused and no healthy sense of or defenses for what is right as well as no proper knowledge of how to take action, as that ability/impulse often has been blocked by trauma in childhood when action might have meant death. They might not even be sure and also feel as overwhelmed and helpless by the implications inwardly as during childhood trauma, as it's too horrible to be true. So a lot of mother's consciously or subconsciously choose to ignore, suppress or downplay any suspicions and/or insufficiently (or not at all) protect their child. Some mothers might also feel emotionally or financially dependent on the man and/or 'simply' choose the man over the child 😢. I agree the timing of Mia Farrow's accusations is suspicious and smells of revenge, but I also agree that Woody Allen is a shifty creep, whatever he may or may not have done to Dylan, specifically, and it seems very dangerous to me if even sensible professionals like Dr. Grande brush over his weird behaviours as though they mean nothing. Because that is how abusers stay undisturbed and go undetected for all too long a time. It may not stand up to the law (,yet) (sadly, the minority of true child abuse cases does). But in my opinion, in real life, one has to try to be aware of the subtle (or not so subtle) signs of abuse and take them seriously, otherwise one is not so much different from the mothers who got an inkling (or even red flags) and chose to ignore or downplay them. And it is hard, I agree, one often does not know what to think or do. One does not want to do an injustice to anyone. Non-action, however, can also be a statement and and action, one that is enabling offenders. Very difficult!
Clearly you have never been a victim of these shits. If only it were that easy.
@@jadepaulsen8456 Clearly you don't know me and what I've suffered. I still have difficulty saying it aloud. But I still don't believe Dylan. I infer you've gone through something. I'm sorry and hope you find peace.
@@ember1794 Some good points. But I argue your points with these 3: 1) pedophile rarely violate only once 2) they rarely vary the age group as dramatically as he's accused (Dylan 7, all others late teens) 3) with as media coverage as Woody has gotten, they've been investigated and allowed to adopt 2 girls.
Her being a failing mom doesnt automatically clear him tho. Dylan never changed her story and there is enough to show that the guy is a creep and has a thing for very young girls
without evidence (and evidence is bound not to exist) sexual/physical/emotional abuse cannot be proved one way or another. It is one person's word against the other's.
It is weird that Allen decided to have a relationship with Farrow’s adopted daughter.
odd yes, criminal no.
@@tankthearc9875 creepy is more like it.
It is not odd. It is absolutely disgusting and a big red flag.
So u dont think it's wierd that the adopted daughter decided to have relationship with Allen?
@@tankthearc9875 But he took on the role of a father figure to that family, he wasn't just some dude that Mia went out with every now and then. That is what makes it unacceptable and it casts a shadow on his intentions from the very beginning...did you ever consider that maybe he just took on the father role to get closer access to the other kids? Predators do shit like that all the time. So yes, his relationship with Soon-yi was not criminal but you have to wonder what else someone is capable of if they are willing to cross that line.
Furthermore, detailed disclosures from the children are the best evidence we have that abuse is occurring. Contrary to what Dr. Grande says about alienation, it is extremely hard to coach a very young child into reciting and remembering the complex web of lies necessary to present a credible (but false) claim of abuse. But its very easy, from a cognitive standpoint, for a child to describe something that was actually done to them...
As I recall, people mentioned that he would not leave Dylan alone. I'm recalling this from when the accusations were fresh. Also, the movie "Manhattan" had the lead female character be 17. Mariel Hemingway, who played the part was 17. I thought at the time eeewwwww. That was certainly evidence that he thought robbing the cradle was appropriate.
Mariel Hemingway also reported that he hit on her, too. She was 16 in real life. Ugh.
@@calmire9817 ohh so she was all of 18, still ewwww
There's a difference between 17 and 7.
@@andy_h_inc But both are under the legal age of consent. He is creepy either way.
@@bunnyspellman im assuming its also eww when 40 year old leonardo dicaprio throws away his 25 year old model girlfriend to upgrade to a new 18 year old one. Or when 50 year old frank sinatra marries 20 year old mia farrow. Men in their 30s 40s and 50s preying on 18-21 year old girls was and still is pretty common in hollywood but when you look like woody allen and not leonardo dicaprio i guess then its creepy and eww.
Even Dr.Grande could barely keep a straight face when he called Ronan Mia and Woody's biological son.
Lol I noticed that as well, I just don't think he is Allen's son at all. He looks nothing like Allen, but with those striking blue eyes, he looks more like papa Sinatra.
@@commonsense2680 Lots of kids look nothing like one or both parents. I could believe that Woody was Ronan's biological father until it became super obvious that Frank Sinatra had to be the biological father. Ronan looks more like Frank than Frank's own kids do.
@@TheBOG3 That is my point Roman LOOKS like Sinatra plus he is known for sleeping around.
Very clear and objective analysis. Thank you!
Ronan Farrow is the spitting image of his father, and thank goodness it's not Woody Allen.
As if you knew Sinatra or Woody.
What do you mean by that?
@@maniacalmadness5419 There's a theory he's Frank Sinatra's son. Mia had been married to him before her relationship with Allen. Also, people think Ronan is too handsome to be Allen's biological son.
That's my guess, too.
He looks plenty like Frank and nothing like Woody.
@@birchlover3377 but he looks so much like him. He could find out through DNA.
I saw Manhattan when it first came out. Allen has a sexual relationship with a high schooler in the movie. I think he was in his 40s. That's when I stopped being an Allen fan. Years later I read an interview with Hemingway who played the high schooler. She said she had never kissed a boy, much less a man. It was difficult for her, and it sounded creepy. Anything after that movie I can eye with suspicion.
Lol for real u release a movie like that, marry your step child, and are accused of assaulting another child. Hmmmm.
I was off-put too. I don't remember many people being so though. I was angry at Annie Hall for beating Star Wars in 1976. I liked it though. Do you remember when "Max" was bailed out of jail by his TV friend? His buddy said Max had interrupted him with 16 year old blonde twin sisters. Creepy.
Right? And I just bet it took a lot of takes to get it just right.
@@emp9413 she wasn't his stepchild.
No one should doubt an accusation as this.
I read Mia's book way back when, "What Falls Away." Leaving the infidelity and sexual accusation out of it entirely, Woody was acting weird or inappropriately enough, for Mia to be justified in leaving him right there. Making me wonder; why didn't she? I hope that is not taken as Monday morning victim blaming.
People who betray people on a habitual basis find it difficult to accept that they have been betrayed.
He married the person he raised, we can’t deny that something is wrong with him. Doesn’t matter if they aren’t biologically related.
Allen never lived with Farrow, and by extension never lived with Soon-Yi when she was a child. How much of a hand did he have in raising her? Can you define what you mean by "raising"? Is it disciplining, helping with homework, tucking her in at night? What constitutes raising and would those same activities be considered "raising" if Allen were not Farrow's romantic partner?
Exactly, he stepped way over the line...taking nude pictures of Soon you.
He didn;t raised her. Her father was Andre Previn
Allen lived across the street from Mia Farrow. They were in each other’s homes constantly everyday. Allen helped Mia raise Soon-Yee. He was a father figure to her
There are countries where the fact Allen married an adopted daughter of his partner would be considered a crime. He was in a position of father/guardian when she was still a child. I for myself think it is very disturbing and should have never happened.
The documentary didn't dismiss Moses' statements because they conflicted with the other children. They conflicted with his own statements and Allen's. He also went on a whole thing about how there was never any train in the attic, but the police documented that there was when they opened the investigation in 92.
I'm really disappointed in this video. It seems like you didn't watch the documentary closely. And any relationship between a middle aged man and the daughter of his partner is inherently and always inappropriate.
Completely agree
Agree.
I found it interesting that Farrow said she couldn't bring back a man to the house out of fear they would fall in love with her kids and not being sexually abused.
i dont think Mia is completely sane.
Poor grammar
She probably was always impressionable but being gas lighted by your older “more mature” boyfriend isn’t sleeping or flirting with your daughter and made to feel like you are being crazy probably doesn’t help.
Iand I found interesting that in 93 Mia asked Allen 7 million dollars to settle down and remove the accusations.
That is a very normal thing to do, specially when you are already rich and don't really need the money
When woody and Soon-Yi began their relationship, the one between Mia and Farrow was over since many years. Meanwhile, Mia Farrow got pregnant by Andre Previn while he was still married with her friend, Dory Previn.
And that was "many years" previous to the Allen times
Woody Allen scores 100% plus on the creepy index!
So do many people, but thankfully the justice system does not hold that to be an imprisonable offence.
Nor even an indictable one.
And always has.
Paul Dunn was there a trial that I don’t know about, or are you basing this on your opinion of him?
@@dewilew2137 there was the custody trial that you presumably know about.
There were the NY & Connecticut investigations that led to no criminal prosecution being carried forward.
There COULD be a civil action by Dylan (remember what befell OJ?) but she's very careful to avoid even discussing that, & has even tried to pretend that the civil statute of limitations has expired!
If you'd done some research independent of this farcical documentary you'd know that
@@dewilew2137 my "opinion of him"?
How is that relevant?!
All I've said is that *being regarded as creepy* is not a criminal offence!
There's a podcast by the film makers (called Allen v Farrow Podcast) that has now released 3 of the 4 supporting episodes. #3 came out today and has an interview with an expert on predators (Dr. Anna Salter). They also describe that in getting the court records for the custody trial, they received audio tape recordings done by both Allen and Farrow- they are not just Farrows recordings.
@@sophiatrinity3339 Soon-Yi turned 21in October 1991, two months before the Polaroids were taken, as accepted in court by both sides.
Why so desperate to assert otherwise, despite Mia's own published accounts?
SY graduated high school at 20 & began college in 1991, her education having been delayed by early reading *difficulties*, not *disabilities* as insultingly claimed by Mia.
The romantic relationship between WA & Mia had not been exclusive (remember Mia's own comments on Frank Sinatra & Ronan?!) & had been on the wane for some time by December 1991,& of course they never cohabitated.
@@z17seattle Yes, look at Dylan's pain. I'm sure that it's real and that her mother is at the root of it. Moses was also in pain until he broke free from Mia. He lays out very eloquently the complicated emotions that went along with hating his father for the sake of his mother. Read his blog, A son speaks out. He is a family therapist specializing in adoption trauma.
@@sophiatrinity3339 Because Soon Yi had been a street kid, nobody knew her exact age...and still don't. They had a 3 year estimation..as in, she might have been 6, 7, or 8, when Mia and Andre' Previn adopted her.
@@z17seattle I didn't suggest that Soon-Yi & her age didn't make WA a molester, magically or otherwise.
I just deplore the continued lazy conflation & confusion of the 2 *separate* issues, as if an *adult* who takes up with a much younger *adult* will thereby molest a 7yo child, & am irritated about those continually questioning SYP's age when it was agreed by both sides & the court.
Dylan did not *immediately* take against her father: it took continued effort by Mia over months (& subsequent years, as with Ronan)
Read the testimonies in the transcripts.
Why do you think the child welfare experts who saw the *full* videotape "failed" to see the pain that you did?
Do you think they're squeamish & "in denial" in their line of work & daily experience over *years*?!**
Days before the allegation, Mia, in a phone call with Dr Susan Coates, described WA as evil & satanic...then asked if she thought she should marry him! (August 1, 1992)
@@z17seattle "suicidally loyal" I'll agree with you on that
Dylan's life has revolved around this allegation: how can she exist without it?
The media painting Mia as insane?
The *portion* that do certainly have a wealth of history to rely on
The majority of the media who attack WA (& the Twitterati) are determined to group him with Weinstein, Epstein, Cosby, R.Kelly,Spacey etc when there is one allegation by one person in the middle of a bitter custody dispute
It's also possible that Mia Farrow accidentally lead her daughter to develop false memories through questioning her. If she was the kind of difficult or abusive parent some of her children describe, then I find it all the more easy to believe that she could have done this without realising.
Asking children these kinds of questions and recording their answers, as far as I'm aware, is considered abusive in the UK, and I can see why.
Also, putting pressure on witnesses to confirm that abuse took place may also be something a mother might do if they really believed that abuse actually had taken place.
No, it's NOT possible that Mia "accidentally led her daughter to develop false memories. According to older brother Moses Farrow, now a respected therapist, the coaching was conscious, deliberate, explicit, pre-meditated, and clearly calculated to incriminate Woody.
FOOL! Mia Farrow deliberately made a FALSE accusation. NO if and s or buts...SHE LIED
You said in the end that it was a one time thing for Allen, but his relationship with Soon Yi and the stories about his acting strange arounc Dyland do make it seem as if was not entirely out of the blue.
Plus, he adopted two girls with Soon Yi. Who knows what he did with them. Not to mention that in many Allen films the story revolved around a mature man's inapporiate relationship with a teenager.
Except Woody Allen based "Manhattan" on his real life relationship with a 16 yo. He was 41.
Is anyone going to discuss the fact that Mia looked like a teenager well into middle age? He was attracted to her because she looked like a child. Between that, his scripts and his behaviors towards Dylan: would you leave him alone with your daughter?
"Mia looked like a teenager well into middle age". To you... She never looked like that.
"He was attracted to her because she looked like a child". A teenager, then a child. That Mia looks younger in every sentence.
What is wrong with his scripts? He is one of the best writers by far. Nobody said anything like that until this came up. Now everybody is an armchair psychoanalyst that can read between the lines of his scripts.
Come on
I don't know what happened and I'm not gonna waste my time in these boring docu-series. But I'm not gonna be an armchair psychoanalyst.
@@dec23 Scrips and books are fiction but based in reality. Poe didn't kill or torture people, Stephen King is not a child rapist/murderer, Navokov is not a pedophile.
Some things are more interesting to some people. I find it fascinating the issue of serial killers, it doesn't make me a fan of murderers.
And, by the way... name me one of those with the "same theme" and I'll name two without or with another main theme.
Woody Allen movies are a old as shit. Some themes were not in the realm of "cancel culture".
It is a good observation. In her 20's & 30's, she had a thin childlike look with no make-up. Her style was routinely referred to in fashion magazines as "waifish"--which is another way to say she looked like a thin orphan child.
So, from your astounding conclusion, does that make Frank Sinatra and Andre Previn predatory monsters also?
@@dec23 All of his movies do not have the same theme, unless you believe what you've been told by this shoddy documentary. "Annie Hall", "Bananas", "Play It Again Sam", "Take The Money And Run", "The Sleeper", "Broadway Danny Rose", "A Midsummer Nights Sex Comedy", "Radio Days", "What's Up Tiger Lily", "Love and Death", "Interiors", "Zelig" "Stardust Memories", "The Purple Rose Of Cairo", "Hannah and Her Sisters", "September", "Another Woman" etc etc etc...none of these films have 'the same theme'. You know nothing about Woody Allen other than what you have been fed by the gossip media.
Think for yourself. Do a tiny amount of research. Don't be fooled so easily, simply because A. You don't like his movies (I'd love to know why) and B. You don't like him.
Anyone who's sneaking behind the back of an adult woman he's having a relationship with to go after her teenage daughter is suspect - sexually, ethically, and morally. He was coming into the home and at some point was eyeing the daughter and sneaking around in her home, behind her back, to go after her kid. Why is anyone *not* having a problem with that??? As Dr. Phil has said [not a fan but every now and then he says something right], when you let a man that is not the father of your children [Not getting into dads also being predators and moms too - this is about mommas' boyfriends], you just gave access to your kids. Predators are wherever kids are - your home, playgrounds, summer camp, scouting, sports, church - kids there? Predators are there. I think he gave it an 85 percent chance your child will be a victim. How many momma's boyfriends 'discipline' a child to death???
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There is no such thing as objective morality. World is a free-for-all fight that most of you dont understand before you get wrecked by someone who does.
She was not a teenager. She was 20 yrs old and made her own choice. Sucks for you but women have rights also.
@@nononsense4933 No she wasn't when it started. He was sleeping with her while she was in high school at the age of 16 or 17 years old.
@@ilkkarautio2449 Bwahaha! "Most" don't get it, but you do oh superior one? Give me a break.
Their adopted son- Moses Farrow-- is a therapist in CT, focused on adoption issue. He also has a TH-cam channel. It would be interesting to see an interview between the two of you-- and even more for me since I have such respect for both of you.
The whole Sun Yee thing was so creepy, I think it leads people to believe WA is some way.....
bingo. idk about the validity if Dylan's claims (i havent seen the doc btw, this video is my introduction to this situation) but the guy is definitely creepy and has a lot of issues. so i cant say I'd be at all surprised if its true...
Huh? His relationship with Soon Yi leads more people to believe that he must have molested a 7 year old even though one has nothing to do with the other. At all. Interesting how people like to call Woody and his relationship with Soon Yi "creepy." It's the most off used word. So, do you think that Sinatra and his relationship as a 50 year old with a 20 year old Mia as "creepy"? Note - Sinatra knew Mia as a child as well.
If you are a fan of Friends, did you think the Richard-Monica (50 year old Tom Selleck and 25 year old Courtney Cox) relationship was "creepy." On the show, he was her pediatric dentist. How about 65+ year old Cary Grant and 25 year old Dyan Cannon. Or Celine Dion and her husband Rene, who met when Celine was 12. Or 45 year old Humphrey Bogart and 20 year old Lauren Bacall.
It is all okay as long as we are dealing with pretty people or people we conclude are sophisticated. Right?
Fact is, this is all thinly veiled antisemitism-racism-classism.
If Woody looked like Clooney or a Hemsworth brother and Soon-Yi looked like and was a sophisticated 20 year old Japanese fashion model featured in Vogue, few would have taken notice.
@@gmh471 I think those are creepy too. Sinatra was handler. I dont know about the others. But Hollywood loves these type of relationships because they dont like mature women.
UM, NO, Sun Yee was an adult 21 year old when SHE AGREED to the marriage, STOP showing you sexual jealousy, Woody did NOTHING criminal
@@josephesposito3499 Jealous of what? Lol!
I actually think you're being surprisingly charitable to Allen. You downplayed the experiences of the young people involved in a dysfunctional family dynamic and the fact Woody Allen is a prime class creep.
@@samc.7928 He didn’t put his thumb in her mouth
Yeah I’m actually really surprised by him leaving out key points that seemed to discredit almost all of the evidence he gave for Allen’s innocence. Im actually super disappointed in his take on this, I usually love his vids 😓
@Infinite Jeff , watch the 4 episodes again since this whole You Tube video by Dr Grande is about the HBO documentary. If we have to write every single key points for you and you already watched the doc then you were not paying attention or just totally blinded by your adoration of Allen’s talents.
You’re telling us that “you were not there “ to judge who is telling the truth BUT most of these sex crimes especially the ones against children ARE unwitnessed . It’s his word against her . In Allen vs Farrow it’s Allen ( and his million dollar PR people) words against Farrow. You forgot the fact that it IS Dylan who wanted her truth to be told ,not Mia’s.
@Infinite Jeff , you need to learn to read and COMPREHEND.... I wrote “ MOST of these sex crimes especially the ones against the children ARE unwitnessed . Where did I say they’re AUTOMATICALLY true ? Re read and comprehend what I wrote.
My hubby in his first job in a law firm had to defend a step grandfather accused of molesting his step grandbaby . There of course was no witnesses but he was the last one to be with the baby when the baby was found bleeding . The grandmother and some of the other grown children were defending the step grandfather and they took a loan on their house to pay their lawyers . The only people firmed in their belief that the baby was molested by the step grandfather were the baby’s parents . NO WITNESSES ! But wait! They did a test on that baby and she came back positive for VD ( the grandfather has VD) it took a sexually transmitted disease to get that grandfather in jail. 20-25 years in jail. Unfortunately not all sexually molested children can have a definitive tests like what this baby had and the adult perpetrators can reason their way out while the children can’t talk or are not believed.
@Infinite Jeff , So you’re choosing to believe Moses and SoonYi but not believing the center of this child molestation case who is Dylan (who is now a grown woman.) If Mia was “abusive” to her children , it doesn’t mean the crime of child molestation against Dylan never happened. Molestation can happen to anyone whether they have good or bad parents.
Woody Allen. Gross.
I’m shocked Dr Grande didn’t comment on all of the gaslighting and other narcissistic and self aggrandizing comments in Woody’s own voice in the recorded phone calls and from his book. And the observed thumb sucking? C’mon now Dr Grande!
What a creep. Any way you slice it, you don’t engage in any “relationship “ with any of your children’s siblings. That alone to marry them. This is sick. I can’t 😤. The rest is circumstantial, but sickening.
Agreed. To reinforce the point, Soon Yi's siblings are also now her children. Think about that.
It took courage for Dylan and others to make this documentary, it's their story, Woody could have made his own documentary
He chose to detail his side in his biography. He goes into great detail. I believe him.
It wasn't a documentary ... it was a piece of propoganda. Documentaries document all the facts, not just those that support one agenda.
@@rixx46 did he say in the biography that he lied about being in the closet?
To be honest, even if this documentary which I didn't watch is biased, I don't wish any more of this for the children in that family. Imagine Woody Allen making a movie about how his daughter (or stepdaughter - I got lost in the complicated structure of the family) being a liar. That would be absolutely disgusting whether he is innocent or guilty. Let's hope that will never happen.
@@thatsalt1560 WA is not interested in making a documentary on this. He has said that enough people have been hurt by this.
Allen seems incredibly Narcissistic to me. How he talks about having "saved" Soon Yi just sounds so predatory and like grooming. Adults can be groomed too. Especially young adults.
She was saved from Mia's household. In a very real sense, her relationship with WA totally freed her. And I don't think WA is narcissistic at all. He's actually quite humble and self-deprecating. You should watch him being interviewed.
They’ve been married for 23 years.
@@allisonmpelette You have got to be joking. Woody Allen is a textbook narcissist. And I've watched him being interviewed many times. You don't know anything about narcissism if you're unable to see it.
@@Catbooks I replied to this yesterday, but I don't know what happened to my reply. So here I go again: I disagree with your statement that WA is a textbook narcissist. He is simply not interested in seeking or getting attention and admiration (never goes to award ceremonies and rarely gives an interview). He may be somewhat lacking in the empathy department (esp. in the Mia days) but this does not make him a narcissist. People on the autistic spectrum also struggle with empathy. Not that I'm saying WA is on the autism spectrum. I'm not. Perhaps it's more like an anti-social disorder (he is fairly reclusive, and by his own admission leads a quiet and mundane life). The nice thing is he's found happiness with Soon-Yi and their daughters, who all support and love him ... and everyone seems to be happy and mentally well-adjusted. The Farrow trio on the other hand ... now maybe there's where you'll find your textbook case study on narcissism.
@@allisonmpelette A man who marries his own child commits incest (emotional or physical). Not the healthiest or sanest of human samples. Although I would not know what to classify him as, nor do I have that right. But something is definitely not right with that individual.
Good and fair analysis, Dr. Grande.
I lost respect for Dr. Grande on this one.
Probably the most rational analysis out there of this complicated, tawdry matter.
You missed an important detail in your commentary: three investigators, in the days after the alleged incident, made a sketch of the attic. A train set was present. Since the documents were quickly sealed, Woody's lawyers seized on Dory Previn song without knowing what the facts were and tried to create this alternative reality. The train set was not added later, as they have suggested. Dylan mentioned it in several interviews at the time.
This raises doubt about Moses's certainty about the events. Strickland's witness does, too. I am saddened, though not at all surprised, that the men with powerful attorneys are benefitting from unconscious bias in your analysis.
Dylan was interviewed at an immediate time after the "sexual involvement/child molest" so how was Mia able to "influence" the child so completely in that short amount of time ...I believe Dylan
@@SimBol1216 that’s because there’s no actual evidence that MJ committed those crimes. Same here. Just because you BELIEVE crime was committed doesn’t mean it did. Although his videos might be speculating, Dr G tries very hard to bring facts to them hence why he always provide resources.
@@RosieGirlRose101 there is DNA and a child to women unwavering account. I have enjoyed Dr G for many yrs now but he is not invaluable nor is non bias . Dr G expects us to use our minds and not just except his analysis.
@@RosieGirlRose101 you cannot really have proof in situations where it's he said, she said, which is most of cases of child abuse or rape. So there is no way to legally pin an abuser down. And still, the abuse happens. So this logic with just looking for proof is clearly not enough.
Just because there really was a train set, how does that explain away the "Daddy In The Attic" song?
The lyrics clearly are about a father who plays clarinet (as Woody does), who uses the pretext of playing in the attic, hidden away from watching neighbors and siblings, to incestuously molest his own daughter.
The song is from more than 20 years before Woody became involved with Mia.
Are you trying to dismiss all that because the lyrics don't mention a toy train?
Please cover Roman Polanski, thanks Dr. Grande.
Oooo. Ya. That's a good one 👍
And Mia Farrow defends Roman Polanski. Hmmm.
Why? He'll just say Roman Polanski didn't do it. 🙄
@@AmberGraves80 that was a dumb comment.
This was awesome love how you broke it down to my understanding..Thank you
I liked your previous set more, Doctor - you were closer to the camera and it felt like you were speaking to me, and it was easier to listen to you. Great channel - thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.💚
I can’t enjoy Woody Allen movies anymore. There’s enough “weirdness” in the actions and accusations of the adults that I just feel guilty for laughing now. Just from the marriage part. Once Dylan’s story comes out it becomes too difficult to even try to decipher the truth because it is entirely too intrusive to their privacy or psychological profile. So now, it’s avoid his movies and wait for some resolution.
Anyone else experience this?
Never watched his films and after I knew what he's done not gonna watch it
@@DT-bp2om he is not sexual, he is immoral.
@@DT-bp2om Hi DT. Because rich guys get away with stuff. Kraft got his prostitution case dropped, but the two massage girls got convicted. So the rich guys never pay (two presidents did sleazy things: clinton, trump). So you NEED a witch hunt to get one of those guys. But, then if a regular guy gets accused they still use the witch hunt tactics and that guy just gets obliterated.
@@DT-bp2om I’m not sure why prostitution is a crime. I just know two poor Asian women were convicted one rich white male millionaire got his charges dropped.
@@DT-bp2om okay. Try not to hurt anyone inadvertently.