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Drew did an amazing job, respecting and honoring her guest’s time and story while interviewing. It was raw and sincere.
She's so good at it.
@@stephaniecostello2262 she really is! so genuine, witful and compassionate
who did
I also think she has gotten better at it as her show has gone on, because she has WORKED at it and focused on being a better and better talk show host.
In the first weeks she was a little rough around the edges in her interviews, but over time she has learned to use her natural gift of empathy in this new context. At this point she's a really brilliant interviewer.
That gift of empathy is also what made her such a talented actress, and I'm so delighted to see it flourish in new ways.
@@OutFMWBAI I couldn’t agree more! She’s also very attuned and her show as is she, is so refreshing to watch.
Drew is such a compassionate, understanding and supportive person. I love the interviews she does on the show!
Yes, she has only gotten better and better at being an interviewer over the course of her talk show, and I think at this point she's really brilliant at using her natural gift of genuine empathy in this new context.
Drew is so amazing for realizing her error and conducting such a candid, respectful interview with Dylan.
I have always believed Dylan...her story has never changed.
Her story changed several times.
Sorry to break it to you but yes, it has changed. Research a bit more and you’ll uncover the other side and what kind of person Mia really is.
@V C Google Dory Previn. That'll show you who Mia really is and that was WAY before Woody and his camp.
@@rl12345 I disagree.
I have done a lot of research on Mia, the Previns, all of it. I believe Dylan, not because I am uninformed.....I believe her because I am informed. It is daft to assume ignorance immediately in someone who disagrees with you.
She is so damn vulnerable in this conversation - that takes so much strength!
Lying in public always makes a person vulnerable.
Drew is so articulate, empathic, and aware. I have been a fan of hers for decades and I love her even more watching this interview. She is such a light in this world. ✨✨
I loved Dylan's girlish excitement when the conversation shifted to her husband. You can tell she has a loving relationship, and for a person that has gone through what she has, having a loving partner is so important.
I love seeing people that worked with Allen apologizing to Dylan, after all these years of suffering
They only side with timesup and MeToo so that they can keep working
He wasn't charged so it's actually wrong to do. They also weren't doing it because they were sorry, it's because of MeToo like other commenter said. I bet none of them care.
It is so crazy how Drew described it as a movie playing in your head. It is exactly how it is !!
Yes, it’s a movie playing in your head that feels like someone else “starred” in and it didnt even happen to you!! I think this goes for many trauma victims… doesn’t even have to be a child or sexual in nature.
Well Done Drew! Supporting Dylan's Bravery!
Why is Mia's supportive of Roman Polanski? I would really like to hear her thoughts on that one.
I am so sorry that Dylan could not have a happy childhood, because of the abuse she had to endure. Every child deserves a happy childhood. Every rapist needs to be imprisoned.
Dylan never claimed to have been raped.
@@rl12345 Some women call what happened to them sexual abuse, some call it molested, and some call it rape. Whatever you want to call it, it ruins their entire lives. They never get over it!
@@malkaz9167 Yeah, they use those specific words because they have a specific meaning. The accusation against Woody is not nor has ever been rape so don't imply that accusation because false accusations also ruin lives.
@@rl12345 He married his daughter (the child he raised with Mia Farrow) after having “an affair” with her for years before he married her. Enough said!!!
@@malkaz9167 He never raised Soon Yi. He never ever lived with Mia in their 11 year relationship. Please do some research before you type inaccurate information. It makes you look very uninformed.
I watched the documentary. Dylan is a courageous soul. I applaud her and honor her voice! Thank you, Drew, for this amazingly authentic interview.
David Kerley watch Rick Worley's documentary on his TH-cam channel.
Believe the victim!!!!
I believed Dylan from the get go. I never wavered. Allen’s film Manhattan was a red flag that I never could get past. His marriage to Soon Yi just cemented my opinion. And they adopted two daughters.
Two daughters who adore both Woody and Soon Yi.
So Manhattan (where Woody dates a 17 year old, which is the legal age of consent in New York) convinces you that he sexually assaulted his 7 year old daughter?! Wow!
@@rl12345 why did the investigators for Yale refuse to testify in the custody hearing? Why did Wilk say that Woody's behavior with Dylan was inappropriate and give custody to Mia?
You must embrace the logic of the MeToo Bowel-Movement! You must drink the Farrow Cool-Aid! Ask NO questions, give up all your rights. Sanity - your Time's Up.
Agreed. I thought Hannah and Her Sisters was disturbing and then when I found out he also dated Diane Keaton's sister that did it for me. This was way before Dylan was even born.
Drew has been around so long I always wondered if she had her own stories of horrible things that have happened to her. It seems almost impossible she escaped molestation when it seems the majority of child actors have been preyed upon. She really seemed to connect to this story and her questions were very thoughtful. It was like one survivor to another.
To my knowledge she's not had that happen to her, but I haven't read her book, only listened to about three chapters. But we all know about her struggles with drugs, and the lack of parental ANYTHING in her life. When David Crosby is the most parental figure you have ever encountered, then you definitely haven't encountered parents!!!
KG2020 I can only say that Woody Allen never did anything to her.
@@EMunaBee thank God for that!!!!
This documentary is a MUST SEE. We have all been gaslit. Thank you Drew for having her on to share her story!!
No, you were gaslit by the "documentary." Do some research on the case before accepting this Mia Farrow Hagiography as gospel.
A Hues while the family didn't "make" the documentary, it's actually part of a deal with Ronan. If you want to watch something a bit less biased, check out Rick Worley's documentary on his TH-cam channel.
The documentary is pure garbage.
Drew deserves an award for this interview.
My thoughts exactly
why? she worked with Allen after his daughter said she was assaulted by him! No one gaslighted Drew. She wanted to work with Allen for the opportunity. How was she gaslighted??? A child said that he molested her and Drew CHOSE to work with him.
I believe her. 100%, I wholeheartedly and completely believe her.
This was a difficult interview topic, but Drew B. handled it well, as did Dylan Farrow. I appreciated Farrow's honesty--you don't just wake up one day fully recovered from trauma like she endured. And continues to endure as so many people still defend her abuser. And yes, children can be a wonderful way to gain a new perspective on your life and your purpose.
I have always believed Dylan. And I have to say that after watching the series it completely baffles me that anyone could honestly think that she lied or that Mia made the whole thing up. The evidence is overwhelming and undeniable. Woody is disgusting.
Right! And he literally married his own step daughter. Gross
@Proper ok creepo
@@sbg1911 accuracy is important.
@@sbg1911 Woody has never had step-children.
@Proper he married the sister of his own children.. dont sound that much better either
Bravo, Drew! I hope more actors follow 🙏We believe you, Dylan 🙏❤️
What an awesome interview..very much needed. This was brave of Drew and Dylan to be able to take a stand
An honest,unpretentious,calm conversation about this really intense abuse experience which has shattered so many lives.... i don’t know how Drew pulled it off !!!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Drew is so great for reconciling that at the beginning. It's not easy to say, "You know what? Maybe I was misled." Praying for Dylan's healing and justice.
You must embrace the logic of the MeToo Bowel-Movement! You must drink the Farrow Cool-Aid! Ask NO questions, give up all your rights. Sanity - your Time's Up.
Maybe she was misled? Great, it sounds like it's finally dawning on her.
Does anyone else find it kind of unnecessary that Dylan is always described as an "adopted daughter"? Why not just "daughter"? Same with Soon Yi.
As an adopted child myself - YES, IT IS VERY UNNECESSARY!!!
Yes, I was thinking that, too.
Lessens the chances of uneducated idiots saying 'Woody married his daughter' I guess.
Incest is bad all around but being a biological child adds a different element of craziness. It also may shed light on those who adopt specifically to abuse in this way. For this story, it’s an important detail.
@@ollieenger1424Your comment implies that molesting your adopted child is somehow less crazy. That’s very problematic, and further proves my original point.
This show and interview is so underrated. So proud of Barrymore and Farrow both.
Yeah me too 💯
Babysitters for Mia found Allan would take off Dylan underwear and smell and breath on her private parts. Many saw him doing weird things like this and he'd claim to be checking her diaper or underwear to see if she'd wet them but they'd find she had no underwear on. They also said that Dylan would run to them and acted very scared anytime Allan got near her. Another woman came out, claiming to be Allan's secret lover which started when she was 16 years old. She said he'd make her do drugs and have threesomes with other, "beautiful young girls" all of which were underage. After 8 years Allan ended their relationship saying that Christina was too old for him. At this time he had Soon. She also claimed he'd groomed Mia and many underage girls into sex partners. It's not just allegations. He was in therapy for having nude pictures of Dylan found in his house. He was fighting for custody but he actually wasn't even allowed to visit Dylan. The pediatrician that examined Dylan and first filed the rape case against Allan had dna evidence at the in the place Dylan said she was assaulted. Not only did they find Allan's hair but his cum on Dylan underwear tucked in a box. He was found guilty but due to Dylan fragile state, this never went to trail. They also hooked Dylan up to a lie detector and found she was telling the truth.
That sounds like a pretty vivid dream you had there.
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I really love this show and this interview has taken it to the other level and shows how amazing this talk show could be 🌟
Such a touching and deep , Drew and Dylan! Beautifully done! Thank you.♥️🙏✌️
Thank you, Drew, for supporting Dylan.
Absolutely love this ❤️
First I looved how Dylan was fangirling over Drew, I also loved how Drew apologized to her, talked about her experience and gave the solemnity to this issue. It also called my attention how Dylan was surprised her family supported her, because in my opinion (after watching the documentary) Mia Farrow is to blame too because she was prioritizing HIM, even after she made the accusations. And also, this has nothing to do with the interview, but I think Dylan and Vanessa Bayer look sooo much alike, both beautiful.
Who's HIM?
@@davidsheriff9274 Mia Farrow and Woody Allen's daughter who accused him of molesting (and I believe raping her) when she was a little girl. She made a documentary with really explicit details about life with him and how he was an abuser.
@@yayitahermosa5841 he was exonerated by two long investigations done by The Yale New Haven Department of Child Sexual Abuse, and The New York Department of Social Services that both concluded it didn't happen,he passed a lie detector test administered by someone that worked for the FBI and the military,while Mia refused to take one. The prosecutor didn't bring charges because he knew there was no case. That's good enough for me. Dylan can still sue Woody in civil court, the statute of limitations is not up. The burden of proof is lower in a civil trial than it is in a criminal trial, so she would have a better chance of winning the case, she would be vindicated and become a multi millionaire. Why doesn't she do it? Because she knows she will lose, just like the prosecutor knew he would lose. It's much easier to convert someone on Twitter. The "documentary"is a one sided hit piece filled with tin foil hat conspiracy theories. Please take some time and really research the case, don't just believe a dumb movie that was made by two liars and smear merchants trying to cash in on the Me Too movement.
@@davidsheriff9274 He wasn't exonerated, Dylan didn't want to testify which was required. From memory she was too fragile.
@@Umeshukitsune exonerated just means to absolve someone from blame or wrongdoing especially after an investigation by an official body. I know that he was not found guilty in a trial,as you say, there never was a trial.
Soon Yi is the adopted daughter of André Previn and Mia Farrow. Woody Allen never lived with Mia and her children, and married Soon Yi 24 years ago when Soon Yi was 26. At the time of the alleged abuse, the Yale-New Haven Hospital investigated the case, and after speaking to Dylan came to the conclusion that she had been coached by her mother. The Connecticut State's Attorney investigated the allegation and also didn't press charges, as well as the New York Department of Social Services that found "no credible evidence" to support the allegation. Moses Farrow, Dylan's brother, says he remembers Mia coaching Dylan to say Woody abused her. Mia is a monster who took child support from Woody to raise Ronan when she knew full well that she had cheated on Woody, and that Ronan was Frank Sinatra's son. Mia Farrow is a psycopath that abused her children (according to two of them) and warned Woody she would get her vengeance for being nothing more than a woman scorned because her ex-boyfriend married her adult adopted daughter who she allegedly abused (according to Soon Yi).
Do your research Drew, or get back to working with E.T.
I must say this is a compelling argument. I'm not completely secure as far as an opinion because I wasn't there and so there's no way that I can know what happened. However when watching Allen versus Farrow I did have some thoughts. One of them being about Roman Polanski and the other about how she confessed that she never stopped seeing Frank Sinatra ever since they were 1st together. Those 2 things were not included in what was supposed to be a neutral documentary. It is obvious that Ronan is Sinatra's son and not Woody. It sounds like from the documentary that Allen was not the best at being in a relationship and so they both did crappy things. That's just kind of what it can be like in an unhealthy relationship.
Because of those 2 main glaring red flags that I mentioned, it isn't too far fetched for me to believe that she may have influenced the situation with Dylan.
@@BeautyIsMyLife Adding to that, Woody always made it clear he never wanted to marry her or live with her or have kids with her and he did see other people while he was with her. Knowing this she still stayed with him, and still tried to convince him to have a kid with her thinking this might get him to marry her. Then one day she's "suddenly" pregnant. And yet he still didn't want to marry her. How outraged she must have been at having been rejected only to find out he was sleeping with her daughter. That explains the Valentine's Day card and the midnight phone calls of her screaming she wanted his eyes poked out. And then Dylan's "suddenly" assaulted...what does Mia do? She asks the psychologist if she should marry Woody and shows up on a movie set ready to work with him. Totally crazy! Throw in how she treated Dory Previn and we begin to see that Mia is capable of anything...lying and weaponizing her daughter is just a drop in the bucket.
Incredible interview. Dylan is so brave and beautiful- inside and out. May God bless her and her loved ones. Drew is also an amazing interviewer; natural and able to create a safe space for her guests to be themselves.
so glad she covered this!!
I will say that Drew asks the best questions here, and/or has the best observations, on Dylan's responses. Let's consider her to replace Ellen, and get back to an Oprah kind of interview.
the documentary was SO good.
Guess you're into one sided propaganda.
It wasn't a documentary. It is a one sided Farrow hagiography with a clear agenda.
Thank u Drew!!!
Drew did not do a good job at investigating the allegations. She brings something to light that hasn’t been proved. It’s a shame.
AFTER ALL THIS DYLAN IS BRAVE ABOUT HER TRAUMATIC CHILDHOOD
Check with a therapist specializing in EMDR Dylan!
Dylan is so brave.
She's just a puppet
Woody Allen makes me sick!!
“It is our expert opinion that Dylan was not sexually abused by Mr. Allen." - the State of Connecticut's investigative outcome. “No credible evidence was found that the child named in this report has been abused or maltreated. This report has, therefore, been considered unfounded.” - the State of New York's investigative outcome. "...we can conclude that Dylan was not sexually abused..." - Yale-New Haven report
Ronan, Dylan and Mia even more!
Why? He wasn't charged for this, he was found not guilty. So this possibly never even happened. I'm actually surprised he doesn't go after them for slander.
@@littleripper312 He was not found not guilty. That would require a judge or a jury. The DA declined to prosecute because of insufficient evidence. I am on board with your sentiment but it is important to get the facts right.
@@littleripper312He wasnot found not guilty, there was no trial.
I used to enjoy Woody Allen movies. We own most of them. Not sure I can ever re-watch them.
Before you start with all your WA excuses. Just stop. The theme of most of his movies is: VERY young girl falls for much older guy (him). He acted like a father to Soon-yi from the time she was adopted by Mia at age SEVEN, worked on her from a young age, took no clothes pics of her while still with Mia, and fittingly came out as being in a relationship with Soon-yi the second she hit legal age. Creepy, no matter how you try spin it.
Dylan has no reason to come out with this, besides telling her truth. All she gains is hate from random people online, who has zero compassion, and would rather trust and support a clearly bad person. I do not care if ONE of her siblings speak against her. Her mom, and most of her other siblings corroborate her experience. Including a price winning journalist who exposed Weinstein.
So just, try to find some compassion in your heart, instead of blindly believing an artist that you love. It is OK to love his movies, but despise him as a human.
I still love Annie Hall, but I think of that as a movie made by Diane Keaton.
Right? Manhattan is one of his most famous and popular films and it's only ever described in reverential tones as "an homage to New York." Never mind that it's basically Woody playing himself running around having a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old high school girl.
Hey, if we watch World Cups despite all the corruption involved there, we can watch Woody Allen films without remorse
I BELIEVE YOU DYLAN FARROW.
I believe the facts.
Woody is innocent
How the EFF does Soon Yi know what happened to Dylan when she was 7? Where does she get off denying Dylan's abuse?
Moses knows...he was there.
@@rl12345 I read Moses Farrow's blog post " A Son Speaks Out" yesterday. It was very compelling. I also had a manipulative and narcissistic mother so I felt it when I read it. I have also read Dylan's account as well and it seemed very sincere to me. It is hard to know who to believe, but I don't think that Moses should be overlooked either because if you read his post I think the average person would also be moved. In this case is very hard to know who to believe on the surface. That documentary though is so slanted towards Dylan and Mia, It really is too bad that it couldn't have been more balanced to give people a chance to form a more clear opinion.
@@BeautyIsMyLife look up a video called
"By the way, Woody Allen is innocent"
@@august6389 I actually did watch that yesterday too
@@BeautyIsMyLife One has to wonder why the documentary was so slanted towards Mia and Dylan...is it because their story begins to fall apart when closely examined and the other side gets to state their point of view and point out many facts the documentary conveniently leaves out? Google "the common ills mia farrow" and "the third estate review mia farrow" if you want some inside gossip from someone who used to be friends with Mia. Interesting stuff.
I believe Dylan.
I believe Woody
@@august6389 I believe Woody too
I don't believe Dylan.
The difference is: I have the established facts, expert opinions, and legal decisions on my side. You have zero.
You probably think that's "brave" in some deluded way.
People who believe Woody out themselves more than they realise
💜💜💜DYLAN💜💜💜
I will always believe her
like Xi Jinping
I believe Dylan.
You know it’s absolutely true because the bottom dweller is still with Dylan’s sister.
Sorry, but that's not how logic works.
An alleged sexual abuse of a child is true because of something completely unrelated? You're not very bright.
And I’m going Marlon Brando / The Dick Cavett Show1973: You’ll see
Shame on you for this person.
Mia Farrow has also had abuse allegations by two of her adoptive children.
And as we all know, there is a legislated maximum of one abusive parent per child.
That's not what "gaslit" means.
It was Woody's last chance, in his mind anyway
I’ve Gt Hush The Magic Dragon✍️✌️😃
I hate Woody Allen. Look what he did to this beautiful woman.
Same could be said for Mia Farrow.
Mía Farrow did this to her
According to the other kids Mia was very abusive.
Is it just me, or this whole allegations smell fishy ?
They dont even say what he did exactly . Complete beataroumd the bush
remind me again...why did prosecutors decline to press charges in '92?
Because every investigation concluded that nothing happened. Which is totally obvious if you look into this story with any depth. This is ALL the result of a woman scorned.
I don't trust HBO with their documentaries, so I defend Woody Allen
This is no documentary... its a completely one-sided hit piece, like Finding Neverland. Also the Farrows were HEAVILY involved, which is a HUGE red flag. The piece is not fair at all. Mia is not innocent in all this. Was Woody creepy for dating Mia's step-daughter... HELL YES. But did that send Mia over the edge in their divorce proceedings to go for blood and say the unthinkable? VERY Possible. The doctors at the time all said at the time after interviewing EVERYONE, that NOTHING HAPPENED. She was so young and coached. Do more homework on the case Drew.
I have questions too, but just for accuracy he married her daughter not stepdaughter and they never got divorced because they were never married or living together.
Have you done your homework and tried watching the documentary?
@@mtw244 Have you done your homework and watched Rick Worley's video on TH-cam called "By the Way, Woody Allen is Innocent"?
Dylan (at 7 years old): Hey, mom, I wanna be famous and rich, like all these beautiful actresses who work with dad. But he doesn't want me in his films!!!
Mia: Hmmmm, ok...do you wanna be famous?...you know? I have a plan......
So people have children and they've all of a sudden "changed"? Omg Just admit you wanted it for your carer and you regret making that choice and you apologize.
Every time Dylan talks the story falls apart more and gets weirder - she mentions having a strange relationship with her mother, and that she didn't even watch the 'documentary' with her mother. What's up with this family? It is disturbed to say the least. And I know why. Dylan knows her mother probably made it up and is lying. Mia knows it too, but she can't bear to tell Dylan. Therefore they have never had a good relationship. Mia is also far more upset that Woody went off with Soon-Yi, then she ever would be upset that Dylan potentially got molested. If you watch episode 4 of the documentary, Mia says it. She says she never brought another guy in the house in fear that he'd go off with another one of her adopted kids. Not that the man might molest one of them. Totally sick. This is an open and shut case. Woody is innocent.
More than one person can collaborate that Woody made Dylan suck his thumb he went to therapy his obsessive behavior towards Dylan he then was found to have pornographic pictures of Soon Yi yet you think he's innocent? Wow
@@bethburger1426 that's nonsense. he didn't make her suck his thumb. that's probably something mia made up once she was trying to frame woody after she found out about Soon-Yi. Soon-Yi was 20, in a relationship with Woody, and they took pictures. Big deal. They're adults. I'd like to see what you and your husband or boyfriend do in your spare time. Oh, you're squeaky clean and only do the missionary, am I right? lololololol
@@bethburger1426 Actually, more than one person can't collaborate the thumb sucking...the accusation comes directly from Mia from her autobiography. Woody says it never happened saying the idea of someone sucking his thumb would be disgusting. Moses Farrow has stated he had never observed Woody doing anything remotely like this.
I love Drew but I think this interview was in poor taste. Dylan may just be delusional, her delusions fueled by her mother's hate towards Woody.
Why is Woody presumed guilty and this woman presumed innocent? Without due process?! Our culture is screwed without due process. Dangerous precedent.
Ignorance? Prejudice? Virtue signaling? All the above?
@@rl12345 trial by inuendo and social media.
I don't believe a word of it, and ultimately, neither did the authorities.
I dont either. and i'm the biggest "believe the victim" person ever but this is the one and only case i just dont believe. i think she believes it happened, but i dont think it did. and this is not in defense of woody because I think he is a pretentious a-hole. and i dont think mia was scorned or did this on purpose either. i think mia thought the worst of him and unknowingly put her own dark ideas into the head of baby dylan who then began to believe her interactions were inappropriate and maybe even imagined things that never happened. this story is too similar to me because i had something very similar happen to me as a child by an older sibling who would ask me weird questions about my dad/uncle and years later when I grew up I came to realize they were never true, just all in her head and she made my relationship with my dad and uncle weird for me growing up.
@@sleepyandhollow. Exactly.
Michael and Julie, have you watched the documentary? Have you watched Woody's films about young girls...?
@@mtw244 What's you point?
@@mtw244 if you're talking about the hbo documentary, I watched all of it. Wanted to see if it changed my mind, it didn't.
Sorry but the only thing Dylan Farrow is famous for is being the daughter of Mia Farrow. Why does this get her a spot on TV as a significant person? She's not a public figure, she literally has no important career of any kind. At least her brother is a TV personality.
She wants to be as famous as her brother, mother and father that she's willing to play victim for as long as anyone is listening.
This is a giant "look at me!" fabrication.
Of dear, Drew Barrymore has been reduced to the sad existence of daytime talkshow host? When did this happen? "Life is a book with many chapters?" 🤮 Sure if you're a rich white American women that's probably true. The takeaway of that interview is that Drew was probing Dylan for advice about how find a man who doesn't mind being married to woman who talks about herself all day every day, frequently digressing into deep vocal fry.
You sound *lovely*.
@@OutFMWBAI You sound single, is your pronoun spinster?
Well if there weren’t any men that could handle that, there would definitely be no married couples in Los Angeles or maybe even New York
Why didn't they ever arrests Woody Allen ?
“It is our expert opinion that Dylan was not sexually abused by Mr. Allen." - the State of Connecticut's investigative outcome. “No credible evidence was found that the child named in this report has been abused or maltreated. This report has, therefore, been considered unfounded.” - the State of New York's investigative outcome. "...we can conclude that Dylan was not sexually abused..." - Yale-New Haven report
His connections. No one outside the public eye would be able to shove their thumb in the mouth of a child and still get visits. Read the court report from the psychiatrist.
@@tonyagibbs1963 Yeah, read the report...it specifically states Woody's behavior with Dylan was not sexual.
They never took it to court because the person assigned to the case didn't want to put Dylan through it. She was very young and she would've had to testify in court. At the end of the documentary they meet and talk about it and it's really worth watching
@@conycalderon7670 The DA admitted that the trauma would be worse for her by going to trial because he had no evidence against Woody and would have lost the case. Why put Dylan through the trauma of a trial only to lose? She would never have had to testify in court. For a child they would have had a video deposition.