No that is not a normal father to make an alliance with secrets. It is splitting and alienating. It is triangulation. Good cop bad cop. Love me hate her.
I'm not doubting Dylan's account, but my God what an ANNOYING off putting, self absorbed victim. Cashing in her abuse for likes, views and followers....What a gross society we've become.
I have a parent who was adopted as a baby. No one refers to that person as 'so-and-so, the adopted child of...' Making such a distinction is just bizarre, frankly.
I am an adoptee myself, and I agree with your generalization. However the distinction is germane in this case, because the allegation is that Mia held her natural-born children in high regard but treated her adoptees like dirt.
@@niccolea2086 Check out the videos under the username theWoodyProblem . It's far better sourced and journalistically sound than the pablum HBO is feeding us.
@@niccolea2086 Her children say. Many more than Dylan and Ronan. They also say that two of them committed suicide because of Farrows abuse of them. This HBO production is about money, not truth. It should not even be called a documentary since it only tells one side.
Can't believe the number of commenters here who are defending Allen. He was her mother's partner for 13 years, so even if Soon-yi was 21 when the affair started and that's highly debatable, that means that he was in her life, was the father of several of siblings and her mother's boyfriend from the time she was 7 or 8 years old. Completely objectionable behaviour for a man. I don't see how anybody can defend him.
@@eek8066 Wrong, it speaks to his moral character ...or lack of it. He groomed, seduced and ultimately married his partners teenage daughter, who also happened to be the sister of several of his own children, including Dylan.
@@LeniG-123 "moral character ...or lack of it" Thank God Mia a moral woman who would never get pregnant (repeatedly) by her best friends married husband
I've been browsing through a lot of videos on this matter and have found the same accounts making the same comments in many of them. This defense of Allen is looking pretty orquestrated, if you ask me. After all, it was his use of the media what allowed him to continue as if nothing happened thirty years ago.
@@dublinvids5146 ...yes, that he married his victim, and stayed married to her? Listen, both he and his child bride are better off than me, so what they do is what they do...It's not that serious to me; she's an adult now.
Why didn’t the filmmakers call out Mia for lying at the end of episode 1? She said when she found the pictures she went home and found Soon Yi and told her and they cried and she told her it wasn’t her fault. Her friend said Mia was very forgiving. During the custody battle Mia very famously (and very easily verifiable) testified that she “pounced” on Soon Yi, kicking the phone she was talking on into her leg and punching her. Why, not only include, but punctuate the entire episode with something we know isn’t true? How much research did they even bother putting in to this?
Weird , I saw TYT video recently too Very odd In The current climate people coming forward with allegations are to be believed and allowed support. BUT we don’t ignore evidence, we don’t simply accept any allegation however unsupported and disproven it is. It’s seems to me that people have always disliked WA marriage to SoonYi. And he himself says he accepts that, but it’s no different to Mia and Sinatra except their marriage is close to 30 yrs strong and MF and FS lasted only a year. If WA looked like Clooney nobody would care I don’t care for WA, don’t like his films much etc. But this is obvious nonsense
Every time he lies or is facing an uncomfortable situation even of his making he coughs. It’s telling. I hadn’t watched a Allen movie for years after this. I only started watching them in lockdown. He’s an evil genius. I live midnight in Paris. But, I consider it Owen Wilson’s film.
Moses Farrow was 14 at the time of the incident and was there that day and there is a major discounting of his testimony. And wasn't there multiple adopted children that committed suicide?
@Connie Hymer Mia was on a publicized UN mission to combat AIDS when her daughter died of AIDS - a daughter living in poverty with 2 children who she hadn't visited in years. The 'heart failure' was another daughter who committed suicide by pills after an argument with Mia.
@Connie Hymer That’s not Mia’s fault of course. Doesn’t change the fact that more than one of Mia’s house staff members said that Mia treated Lark more like a scullery maid than a daughter and was physically abusive.
Allen ran the entire situation. As abusers do. Especially rich and powerful ones. Especially when they have a publuc image and "comedic genius" to veil the truth. Thinly veiled I might add, look at the recurring theme in his movies. Like slight of hand, he pitted this family against each other and fooled the public for decades, and even more - if you look at alot of these comments.
Well Ronan Farrow is an award winning, well respected (even by Hollywood haters) journalist and he supports his sister fully. That said, this guy saying “we were looking for movies for Me Too we didn’t hear about” This all came out long before Me Too.
Interesting thing is Ronin takes credit for the Weinstein story when the truth is two woman from the New York Times broke the story NOT ronin, but he stole the story and made it his. NO RESPECT FOR HIM AT ALL !
In my opinion, Moses Farrow is envious of Ronan Farrow. Moses says he is private and doesn’t seek publicity, but he publicly exposes his private life on a regular basis.
@@fob1xxl Yeah, true! He hijacked the entire story in the finishing lines and was the one who took all the credit. That is why his backing doesn't really validate a story for me.
Here's the thing though, this happens to everyone, whether they're Award Winners or they're common folk. Don't let that distinction be your tell-tale indicator of this. But, yes, he is. And the mere fact that he could've lost his position, relevance, and acceptance is tremendously telling. I knew Dylan was telling the truth the minute I heard the 1st couple of sentences coming out of her mouth and the awkwardness in her physical appearance when talking about these encounters and events. But, yea, I'd definitely agree with everything you've said. True enough.
I would like to thank you all for doing this series with so much respect and professionalism. It is so important what you are doing, you just don't know to what extent. I also thank Mia and her lovely daugther for being so brave and courageous. Thank you so much for sharing your such a painful story. As a mother I can't hardly express the pain I feel for Mia especially and all her suffering. Life is no fair, we need to show people how predators have been protected, how they behave, how to detect them and develop the skills to stop them ASAP. Only someone who has suffer a pain like that can understand what Mia had to go through. Thank you Mia for your courage, just by participating and giving your testimony you are helping so many mothers to develop awareness and watch out for these monsters. Keep working on the subject please, your work is necessary.
Her "good friend" Farrow had poor Dory's husband's twins growing in her belly when she was 20 shortly after divorcing 50 yr old Sinatra who she later also went back again and cheated with
Grooming starts early it pushes the boundaries early to where it no longer has a boundary and the shame is real. The offender never feels like they do wrong. They never accept responsibility. It is always a child who has been rejected by a parent especially a father. It becomes normal until they see it somewhere that is a normal household and then the light goes on. I stayed at a friends house and when I did I saw how a real father showed daughters affection that was appropriately. Hiding under bed or in closet alarms should go off.
I believe Mia and Dylan. There's a lot more coming to light in the documentary that wasn't previously known. There's definitely a systematic and grande scale smear Mia campaign that's been going on forever but I BELIEVE HER
And Mia being emotionally wonky does not exonerate allen...it actually can establish the target he saw her as, or he would have avoided her as risky, given his status as film industry giant.
That monster should be in Jail! Mia really is a great Mom, you can see it in those home videos.. Dylan is such an inspiration and I wish she gets the justice she deserves… and Soon-Yi is a victim as well, I hope she’s okay.
I've just realized that Allen exploited the trope that adopted children don't form real bonds with their adoptive families / siblings. He was clearly an integral member of that family in an elevated / authoritative / parental sense. His apologists picked up with his narrative that relies on this lie and ran with it.
HBO had signed Ronan farrow to a documentary series in 2018. Google it. By airing this documentary they are creating a huge conflict of interest. They have a vested interest in showing Ronan and by extension his family in a good light.
This podcast is very interesting. I'm glad the truth is being made known. I feel bad for Dylan. If her dad was an ordinary Joe he would have gone to prison. It's especially troubling the way the media was complicit in downplaying the story when it happened.
I’d be with you if this was the actual story. There’s some serious wacky stuff going on with many of these people and the way this narrative is shaped. It’s not like ‘The Jinx’ where you see an entire objective picture of the events as they occurred. It’s a perspective shaped through one lens. I feel bad for Dylan in the sense that I believe that she believes it. This was investigated 25 years ago and they couldn’t even amass enough evidence to facilitate actual charges. This is a trial by media without system involvement.
@@connshawnery6489 It was a trial by media back then and he had the full force of the Harvey Weinstein's and Hollywood bigwigs behind him. It played out in the news trying to discredit the victim. Perspective.
@@MasterofScrutiny There’s evidence to corroborate the abuses perpetrated by Weinstein and others. Allen has gone on to stay married to Soon-Yi (creepy sure, I get it) and have their own kids. Farrow couldn’t make the allegations stick and she’s also a celebrity. Allen is not at the level of a Weinstein as they are attempting to portray. He can’t even pay actors any more than a SAG (scale) wage. You’d think that any of the initial investigations would have yielded something. Plus, he never offered to settle the case with any kind of gag order ala Weinstein. None of this fits.
kids call it toxic masculinity, we are raised to uphold the father figure no matter what, even if he's hurting youngsters in his care, it's the reason we see so much support for him and other rich men like him
The ads for this look as though as though it is biased against Farrow...he lived in a huge apt. near her, and they were together every single day for years...so really a husband and wife...her daughter was adopted, so what, it was her daughter...if Mia snapped a little, no wonder...no one deserves what she went through...her tear ducts broke, she cried so much....
You’re talking about the mobs emotionally chanting he’s Satan and should be in prison after watching a 45 minute documentary right? And paying no attention to the facts and evidence found in the multiple year long criminal investigations, correct?
@@christoph1596 what about the fact that he actually married the child of his girlfriend who he met when she was in preschool. That’s fact not fiction. That doesn’t seem the least bit creepy to you?
@@missygoldstein12 a "serious investigation"? That's 3 YEARS in preparation ....& doesn't contact the principals on the other side until December 2020?!?! ("investigator" Amy Herdy claimed to have tried contacting WA in 2018....& that is contradicted by the necessary legal statement at the end of the documentary's OWN PODCAST, above!!!)
@@stupidostupido7694 he was messed up by Mia as was demonstrated by his earlier misplaced loyalty to her back in the 1990s. You have READ his devastatingly comprehensive Open Letter, haven't you??
Moses Farrow claims that Mia was an abusive mother and has written extensive allegations. So has Soon Yi. I find it interesting that they are two of the adopted children of Asian descent. Are they ever going to be brought into the picture? This seems to be very one-sided.
Also should be noted that Tam and Lark claimed similar things, though neither are addressed at all (at least in the documentary) and both couldn’t voice their stories, as they died. Tam due to suicide and Lark from AIDS. Something they both dealt with without the support of Mia.
Also: two adopted children of hers committed suicide while in her care. That is not a great record for a mother and a Goodwill Ambassador for UNICEF. That should be enough to seriously question her as a mother and it should be enough material for a documentary about her questionable conduct.
@@kileyeileen No Moses claims it happened to Lark, Tam, and Thaddeus but they never made public statements. Strange how the only other children Moses claims were abused by Mia are dead or Soon-Yi.
@@rl12345 uh no. How many school aged children do you want to marry. Please elaborate. Also, do you get with people because they have small children? We all want to know
There was 1 allegation , unsubstantiated, frequently disproven or disputed with conflicting testimony And yet the speculation in this discussion is off the chart
@@nononsense4933 That's not a thing. It's just something enablers of abuse tell themselves so their favorite perverts face no accountability lol. Do you side with all powerful men who claim nothing happened, such as Donald Trump?
I once loved his films, now I just can't stomach them. DECONSTRUCTING HARRY is the most confessional I think...In MANHATTAN his girlfriend is a 17 yr old actress. Have Allen's defenders actually seen his films?? He's telling you who he is in his movies, plain sight!!
@@Maggie-zr2ow "a police drawing of the crime scene"? Are you kidding me? this was in 1992 a few years after photography was invented - WHERE"S THE PHOTOGRAPH OF THE ATTIC? A "police drawing" at a 'crime scene' and no photograph in 1992 is absolutely absurd and ridiculous. And not believing Moses Farrow's account of his childhood in Mia Farrow's home where he experienced abuse as did his brothers and sisters - 2 of whom committed suicide - is shameful. What is your rational unbiased explanation for believing the recollections of a 7 year old girl who Moses AND the experts who investigated the case said was coached and rehearsed by Mia but not believing her 14 year old brother who was present the day of the alleged abuse and at twice her age is going to have more intellectual and emotional capacity to accurately recollect the day?
@@rl12345 Exactly, she sounded unbelievable Priscilla had to call Mia,Dylan and Ronan, after she got the email sounds like they all got together and made a decision on what Priscilla should say.Priscilla was dramatic when she was talking she dated Mia son she made it sound like she lived there,she said maybe because she didn’t have that kinda family life and She probably didn’t have,these were two very famous wealthy people that would make it seem larger then life. Her saying he was there every single day and night how would she know that? Mia thinks of Priscilla as sole daughter and she thought of Mia as sole mother,sounds like she didn’t have very good bond with her own mother, so I get were she felt like she needed Mia.
@@kerriecarr6287 Priscilla is the biggest brown nosing sycophant I've ever seen. Her mother is a big time literary agent so that is how Dylan got a book deal before she even wrote a book.
WA groomed Mia, too!! Helloooo. Mia was his FIRST victim in the family, his FIRST target, bc without bypassing her, he couldn’t get to what he was really wanting. Can we NOT blame the victims, please?? Jeez mon. For the love of all that’s good in the world.
Forget the NOT blaming the victim. MIA WILLINGLY had an affair in the 60's when she was 19 with a 51 year old man whom she later married and then divorced by the name of Frank Sinatra. So now I suppose you'll say Frank Sinatra groomed her as well ? Truth is truth.
@@fob1xxl precisely. Allen is weird. Farrow is a flake & hypocrite. Moses and Dylan say that Farrow was abusive to them. Selective, identity-outrage; sponsored by MeToo.
They decided that Dylan was too fragile to face a trial even though there was probable cause to charge Allen. This was from Frank Maco, then Connecticut prosecutor
@@crytlmeen look deeper. You have to look at the facts not their BS documentary hit piece. Drs, the DA, all said nothing happened. Dylan is not believable. Neither is Mia.
I'm not doubting Dylan's account, but my God what an ANNOYING off putting, self absorbed victim. Cashing in her abuse for likes, views and followers....What a gross society we've become.
What Fletcher said is the opposite of the truth. He WAS NOT a father figure to any of the kids, but his kids, Moses, Ronan & Dylan. Jesus, she has the adult kids lying.
What else as they going to do. She has all the money and all the friends and connections. She can kick them out of ignore them like she did with her dead Asian children. This Mia Farrow thing is a complete outrage.
The funny thing is, you can read the contemporaneous transcript of the custody trial online...about how he was never around, knew nothing of the children’s’ lives, had nothing to do with them, etc. So which is true? The testimony at the custody trial or now? ‘Cos they can’t have it both ways.
@@magicpony9 One of the reasons he lost the custody case was because he didn't know any basic details about the kids. Hard to be a father figure when you probably don't know half the kid's names.
Ya, because he was found innocent multiple times..... they all concluded Dylan was making this up or manipulated and rehearsed by Mia Farrow.. And his wife wasn’t his adopted daughter, or his step daughter it was his girlfriends adopted daughter whom he never lived with. And a romantic relationship began when she was 20, Research please.
This comment section proves the power in controlling the media narrative. People are parroting Allen’s talking points. Have any of them seen his catalog of films? There is the consistent theme of attraction to a much younger woman and the conceit of this totally unattractive nerd being irresistible to gorgeous women who are neurotic and lacking in self esteem. He literally groomed the audience to accept his fantasies as acceptable.
Comparing a much younger woman to a 7 year old child is a sickening argument that's parroted by all Mia supporters. By the way do you know how old Mia Farrow was when she married (the how old, remind me) Frank Sinatra?
In that same vein, it's hard to tell how many of these comments are orquestrated precisely to control the media narrative. I've seen many suspicious recurrencies in accounts and replies. I wouldn't put beyond Allen's camp to do that for him.
I'm confused about how Mia thought he was weird around Dylan and then continued to have him around her children and become an adoptive father. As a woman, I'm confused. Anyone who has to speak with a professional about being weird around my child can't come back. Period!
They had to share custody of Moses, Dylan and Ronon, the alleged molestation happened on one of the visitation just weeks after Mia discovered her daughter's graphic pictures. Watch the second episode you will understand
This case was investigated several times and there never was any abuse. Her story now is completely different than 30 yrs ago. At that time she still wanted to play in his movies, and at one time asked for 7 million dollars to make it all go away. She even wanted to marry him. Now suddenly she thinks he was weird. Yeah right.
If Farrow had accepted her adult daughter's relationship with Allen, here is how things might look today. 1. Farrow would have a relationship with her daughter, Soon-Yi, and Soon-Yi's two young adult children, her grand-daughters. Instead, the adoptive parent, Farrow, severed her profound responsibility to her adopted daughter, a young woman who had already experienced the loss of her birth mother. 2. Soon-Yi's and Moses' relationships with their siblings, Dylan and Ronan, would be intact today. Soon-Yi's and Moses' children would know their cousins and their aunt and uncle. Farrow is responsible for creating these painful estrangements, and the fact that several of these children are adoptees for whom loss is even more devastating than usual is especially cruel. 3. Dylan would be a happy woman with an intact family; instead, as a result of Farrow's coaching, Dylan is psychologically damaged and estranged from a parent and siblings. Imagine yourself being cleared of a serious wrong-doing by two of the leading investigative agencies into the wrong you were alleged to have committed. Imagine how social media and profit-obsessed Hollywood moguls would keep the scandal alive. Does anyone think that an adoption agency would have allowed Allen and his wife to adopt two children if there were the slightest hint of truth in these allegations? Does anyone give a moment's pause to consider how Allen's two young adult daughters are affected by the smear campaign against their father? You think this is nothing? Nancy Sinatra complained that her children were affected by Farrow' claim that Frank Sinatra may be Ronan's father. Appreciate how the media can damage the innocent. I, like other adoption professionals, admired Farrow in the 1970s and 80s when she campaigned for international adoption. That respect and esteem fell away because of the many clear evidences of her failure to give her children the safety every child deserves. It was alarming that, at a whim, Farrow would change the names of her children as though they were pets to whom a name--the essence of one's identity--belonged to someone else. At one time Dylan was called Malone. Until Farrow changed it to Eliza. Until Farrow changed it back to Dylan. Imagine not knowing who you are. Farrow broke the vows she made to her adopted children, to love and protect them always, to put them first always. If the truth were as titillating as scandal, this pile-up of tragedies would never have happened. Dylan has brought no civil suit against Allen, why? The overwhelming evidence that no abuse took place would deprive her of her raison d'etre. Her adoptive mother took so much away from her. Who can blame Dylan from clinging to the mythology that gives her meaning?
THE VOICE OF REASON!!! TRUTH HERE!!! GET YOUR TRUTH HERE, FOLKS!! Nah, they won't listen to you. They'd rather be gossiping, hateful idiots. god help them all. "They' are 'us.' We are all one1 we really need to wake these people up quickly. The over all well being of the planet doesn't have time for such ignorance and stupidity.
Agreed. Still creepy that he married her but I am not convinced by the one sided claims after they had been dismissed in the past and the fact that Mia is no saint....
@@caroespinoza9287 Not according to Soon-yi, who has continued to be his wife for decades. This is all based on one possible event that occurred in a tiny attic in a very brief period. No clear evidence and conttadictory testimony. We're not talking about Weinstein here. Absolutely no other accts of Allen engaging in this behaviour.
Further on Ms. Ziering’s dishonesty. She has been critical of Alec Baldwin for his claim that her documentary amounts to a “trial be media,” then claims it was Allen who made the scandal public. It wasn’t. Maureen Sullivan made the first public statement about the issue. Ms Ziering wouldn’t know a fact from a falsehood if the former said hello and the latter goodbye.
She cheated with another grown man. She did not cheat with Woody's son. I have to question Moses who claimed that Woddy was not a father figure, but the other children state that he was.
@@herstory4738 It's possible that kids in a family can see things very differently. Just look at the difference in the stories of Mommy Dearest author Christina Crawford vs Cindy and Cathy Crawford.
@@herstory4738 just an fyi, she cheated with different grown mEn, multiple times. WA started seeing grown Soon-Yi at 21 after him and Farrow were done but filming a movie together. I don't know if WA has ever cheated. Maybe. Soon-Yi is 50 now still married to him with two daughters in college
You opened a TH-cam account just a few days before the series aired, and are going up and down in the commend section trashing Farrow, HBO and the series. Hmm, something smells a bit fishy here...
@@acm441 If my comment has in any little way made you uncomfortable or caused you distress then I've done my job calling out uninformed witch hunters carrying pitchforks and tiki torches ready to lynch him based on allegations that were investigated by both law enforcement and child abuse experts at Yale and were found to be lies.
@@mandaqu multiple people corroborated it happened. EVEN DYLAN. Why do you do constant mental gymnastics to defend this man you've never met? Your blind defense of him is bizarre.
So the logic goes: If a person seems strange: (A) And they are committed of a crime: (B) They without question committed said crimes (C) I sense slightly flawed logic there, hbu?
@@fieldingm1969 what a lack of understanding of the subject you have dude. You don't know what happens to the person who is abused and how important is to the fact these women are talking and the filmmakers have had the opportunity to do this. Do you know how common is this problem in society? How many children suffer from this? Think deeply, and take care of your children if you even have some or do nowadays
Think this sort of thing hasn't been happening for years in all cultures? I just don't think it is right to go against anybody's will no matter what age and I think he suffers from his actions.
....& yet Mia Farrow's OWN PUBLISHED ACCOUNT in her book What Falls Away completely refutes the parental relationship between WA & Soon-Yi that the "experts" are seeking to establish at the end of the podcast above. Inconvenient, huh?
Apparently you can have it both ways. When you're trying to demonstrate that he groomed Soon-Yi and Dylan - he had a relationship with all of the children and was a father figure. On the other hand, when you're trying to retain custody of the children - he "demonstrated no parenting skills that would qualify him as an adequate custodian..." Quite the chameleon
@@eek8066 yes indeed, but you know how you lose the intended audience - who have no appetite for background reading - when you go beyond the length of a tweet, preferably in UPPER CASE for full melodramatic effect!
The filmmakers have been widely criticized for their approach. At best, they are hacks. The truth about this case is easily found with online documents. The filmmaker was unequivocally exonerated. Any mother who would be disappointed with this finding is not a fit mother. The rest is noise.
Allegedly they had a court case stipulation and he paid 7 million dollars. Apparently Mia Farrow was then nice enough to drop it, only temporarily it seems.
Mia doesn't want a criminal investigation, because she and the other family members will have to answer to investigators under oath, and all the dirt will come out that puts Mia in a very bad light.
@@euthman Truth. They will never willingly put themselves into a situation where they can be cross examined, have witnesses called etc. That's the reason Dylan has never followed a civil case against Allen though she certainly can if she chose to.
No, not a thing Dylan Farrow ever says or does goes beyond her own alleged victimhood. She is an advocate for nobody but herself and, for the life of me, I do not understand how so many people do not see that.
So? What does believing her have anything to do with whether this event of abuse actually happened. People believed the kids from the McMartin scandal and some of those kids to this day think they were abused, but the exact opposite is true. Believing Dylan is meaningless.
The comments in here a surprisingly hostile, with a lot of thumbs ups too. Very curious. I appreciate the program and find it very enlightening - regarding WA’s behavior. This was a very complicated family.
Mark Whitehead - it looks like an abuse of the “fair use” to incorporate whole sections of the audio memoir by Allen verbatim - looks like shoddy work by HBO’s legal division to have signed off on that.
Are you gonna be interviewing Whoody Allen? What about his wife, Soon- Yi Previn? Are you gonna interview Moses Farrow? Or are you just gonna talk about Mia and Dylan's side of the story??????
Amy's not too interested in accuracy. Check out the "Controversies" section of the Wikipedia article on The Hunting Ground (& the ridiculous assertion on Podcast#2 that Stickland/Strickland is as common a surname here in the UK as Smith is in the US: utter, easily discredited bilge)
Im not a fan by any means of this new media cancel coulture but "gun to my head" id say he did that and lots of artists were prosecuted by angry online mob, while this story didnt change by how many years?
🌿This is a very recommendable and interesting podcast! It is very important to hear their truth. Very respectful and profound. Greetings from Germany, Mila Anderson
@@kathleengleason9805 No, they did not *all* believe Mia and Dylan.. some might’ve, but not all did that’s for sure.. it was the CT police who, as part of their investigation, referred Dylan to the Yale Child Psychiatric clinic, where she was interviewed extensively and the doctors concluded she was making it up, either because she was just imagining things, or because Mia Farrow manipulated and rehearsed it all with her. Their reasoning: she contradicted herself constantly, her story of what happened kept changing, and there were portions of what she said that the doctors said were clearly rehearsed.. They also did not press charges, so clearly it wasn’t as open and shut as HBO’s documentary wants to portray it. Go look it up.
@@kathleengleason9805 Based on the word of one person you’re saying all people in the CT police force, without question believed Mia and Dylan? Is that what you’re implying? Because that’s a broad generalization you can’t back up. All I said above was what I just stated, plus the factual account of Yale’s psychiatric team concluding Dylan’s accusations were not true. That’s just fact that’s not an opinion.. it was the CT state attorney who said he had probable cause but wouldn’t charge Allen because he “didn’t want to put Dylan through that”, but he also stated later in his decision that there was insufficient evidence to actually convict him of any wrongdoing.
"Journalism" at its worst. Everything in this series is cherry-picked. The opinions of expert therapists who examined the individuals in the case are ignored, leaving only gossip and biased sources.
@@user-jj1yb7mz9b Exactly. People acting as if one party has to be innocent, while both could have been bad parents or bad people in general. Same for the Heard and Depp thing. Both are terrible human beings, yes people push a narrative that one is innocent. Never get why people choose it as a hill to die on.
Does anyone know where to find Moses Farrow’s 1992 interview? It’s probably the smoking gun to see if Mia was coaching the kids. One glaring fact is she allowed her unaccompanied 13 year old son hold an interview with the press to discuss very complicated adult issues to disavow WA.
I can't have much respect for these so-called investigative journalists. I'm glad they're illuminated because I'm not. I'm just hearing subjective point of views. They find family friends perspectives revelatory. I don't get it. This is what they call facts.
I'm about a third of the way into this podcast and frankly, the panel seems hung up on belaboring the obvious. Can anyone talk about family dysfunction without dragging out every cliche known to humankind? If you have new information, then come to the point - a talent few of the participants here seem to have. Also, no one has to humanize Mia Farrow or the Farrow family for me - makes it feel like you're trying to peddle some sort of PR to me. I fully understand their humanity - do not sentimentalize them. Jesus, will you people try to act and sound like documentary film makers please!
@@djsolomon she kept her children around him, she thought there was nothing wrong with him 'requesting' she adopt a blonde haired girl with blue eyes..
@@utoobjh How about when multiple criminal investigations and an extensive series of interviews at Yale’s Children Psychiatric Hospital all interviewed Dylan as a young child and all concluded the accusations were false and Dylan had either made this up in her head or was manipulated and rehearsed to her by Mia Farrow
@@emallace447 still dishing out the ludicrous insults instead of dealing with the points raised, I see. You are the ideal audience for this documentary
None of the Farrows wanted to talk and then everyone did. And they were reluctant and they also bring this up every couple of years. Are the filmmakers either deluded or dumb or something I don't understand right now?
Stream Allen v. Farrow on on HBO Max: itsh.bo/get-hbomax
No that is not a normal father to make an alliance with secrets. It is splitting and alienating. It is triangulation. Good cop bad cop. Love me hate her.
Pretty disgusting. And I'm not talking about Allen, I'm talking about the documentary.
I'm not doubting Dylan's account, but my God what an ANNOYING off putting, self absorbed victim. Cashing in her abuse for likes, views and followers....What a gross society we've become.
@@TheOpenSociety777 Not to mention the documentary is timed with her trying to sell her fantasy book. Profiting off of victimization.
@@rl12345 exactly !!!
I have a parent who was adopted as a baby. No one refers to that person as 'so-and-so, the adopted child of...' Making such a distinction is just bizarre, frankly.
I am an adoptee myself, and I agree with your generalization. However the distinction is germane in this case, because the allegation is that Mia held her natural-born children in high regard but treated her adoptees like dirt.
@@euthman who says?
@@niccolea2086 Check out the videos under the username theWoodyProblem . It's far better sourced and journalistically sound than the pablum HBO is feeding us.
@@niccolea2086
Her children say. Many more than Dylan and Ronan. They also say that two of them committed suicide because of Farrows abuse of them. This HBO production is about money, not truth. It should not even be called a documentary since it only tells one side.
We adopted our son at birth. I actually was allowed to help as he entered the world. We don’t call or think of him as adopted! That is very offensive.
Can't believe the number of commenters here who are defending Allen. He was her mother's partner for 13 years, so even if Soon-yi was 21 when the affair started and that's highly debatable, that means that he was in her life, was the father of several of siblings and her mother's boyfriend from the time she was 7 or 8 years old. Completely objectionable behaviour for a man. I don't see how anybody can defend him.
His affair with Soon-Yi is a completely separate issue to the alleged abuse of Dylan
@@eek8066 Wrong, it speaks to his moral character ...or lack of it. He groomed, seduced and ultimately married his partners teenage daughter, who also happened to be the sister of several of his own children, including Dylan.
Ain't it weird. Some people believe that you have to be tried and convicted in a court of law. We should rewrite criminal law now!
@@LeniG-123 "moral character ...or lack of it" Thank God Mia a moral woman who would never get pregnant (repeatedly) by her best friends married husband
I've been browsing through a lot of videos on this matter and have found the same accounts making the same comments in many of them. This defense of Allen is looking pretty orquestrated, if you ask me. After all, it was his use of the media what allowed him to continue as if nothing happened thirty years ago.
I don't know, but he was sleeping with his girlfriend's daughter....and that's wrong. That tells me all I need to know.
He's still married to her ... that tells me all I need to know.
@@dublinvids5146 ...yes, that he married his victim, and stayed married to her? Listen, both he and his child bride are better off than me, so what they do is what they do...It's not that serious to me; she's an adult now.
@@ddddddno24 She wasn't a victim. She was 20 years old when he first kissed her and he was never a father figure to her.
@@dublinvids5146 Sure, I guess he was just sitting, watching, and waiting for her fruits to ripe.... NASTY
@@ddddddno24 "her fruits" ?? lol
Why didn’t the filmmakers call out Mia for lying at the end of episode 1? She said when she found the pictures she went home and found Soon Yi and told her and they cried and she told her it wasn’t her fault. Her friend said Mia was very forgiving. During the custody battle Mia very famously (and very easily verifiable) testified that she “pounced” on Soon Yi, kicking the phone she was talking on into her leg and punching her. Why, not only include, but punctuate the entire episode with something we know isn’t true? How much research did they even bother putting in to this?
It’s the most one sided, biased documentary I’ve ever witnessed
they obviously didn't do any research. who knows what really happened. maybe mia and ronan paid for this out of pocket. can't know.
Weird , I saw TYT video recently too
Very odd
In The current climate people coming forward with allegations are to be believed and allowed support. BUT we don’t ignore evidence, we don’t simply accept any allegation however unsupported and disproven it is.
It’s seems to me that people have always disliked WA marriage to SoonYi. And he himself says he accepts that, but it’s no different to Mia and Sinatra except their marriage is close to 30 yrs strong and MF and FS lasted only a year. If WA looked like Clooney nobody would care
I don’t care for WA, don’t like his films much etc. But this is obvious nonsense
@@yourmajesty1630 Ronan has a 3 year deal with HBO. Curiouser and curiouser...
She admits this in episode 2.
What a sick world we live in.
But we too are a reflection of that world. Some people just want to point fingers.
Every time he lies or is facing an uncomfortable situation even of his making he coughs. It’s telling.
I hadn’t watched a Allen movie for years after this. I only started watching them in lockdown. He’s an evil genius.
I live midnight in Paris. But, I consider it Owen Wilson’s film.
You notice the cough in his films . He has been doing it since 70's .
It's just a nervous thing.
Exactly the same I saw the cough 😷 & thought u manipulate git to give him thinking time to continue lying
Yes it's. The actors are fantastic..he just wrote the movie.....
@@twomindz79true
Moses Farrow was 14 at the time of the incident and was there that day and there is a major discounting of his testimony. And wasn't there multiple adopted children that committed suicide?
3 adopted children dead and 2 alienated That’s a very poor record for a mother isn’t it ?
@@mandaqu it ain’t great!
@Connie Hymer the shame of not informing yourself is yours
Go away
As for nasty... look to your laurels
@Connie Hymer Mia was on a publicized UN mission to combat AIDS when her daughter died of AIDS - a daughter living in poverty with 2 children who she hadn't visited in years. The 'heart failure' was another daughter who committed suicide by pills after an argument with Mia.
@Connie Hymer That’s not Mia’s fault of course. Doesn’t change the fact that more than one of Mia’s house staff members said that Mia treated Lark more like a scullery maid than a daughter and was physically abusive.
If Dylan had been abused since she was two, why did Mia wait until 1992 to take action? What about Moses's testimony?
Because she didn’t find out about it until later? 🙄 Don’t ask dumb questions
Classic victim-blaming, good job
Moses would be very biased.
Allen ran the entire situation. As abusers do. Especially rich and powerful ones. Especially when they have a publuc image and "comedic genius" to veil the truth. Thinly veiled I might add, look at the recurring theme in his movies. Like slight of hand, he pitted this family against each other and fooled the public for decades, and even more - if you look at alot of these comments.
@@drakashrakenburgproduction5369 not to mention severely emotionally damaged by Allen
Well Ronan Farrow is an award winning, well respected (even by Hollywood haters) journalist and he supports his sister fully. That said, this guy saying “we were looking for movies for Me Too we didn’t hear about” This all came out long before Me Too.
And Ronan went after Harvey Weinstein
Interesting thing is Ronin takes credit for the Weinstein story when the truth is two woman from the New York Times broke the story NOT ronin, but he stole the story and made it his. NO RESPECT FOR HIM AT ALL !
In my opinion, Moses Farrow is envious of Ronan Farrow. Moses says he is private and doesn’t seek publicity, but he publicly exposes his private life on a regular basis.
@@fob1xxl Yeah, true! He hijacked the entire story in the finishing lines and was the one who took all the credit. That is why his backing doesn't really validate a story for me.
Here's the thing though, this happens to everyone, whether they're Award Winners or they're common folk. Don't let that distinction be your tell-tale indicator of this. But, yes, he is. And the mere fact that he could've lost his position, relevance, and acceptance is tremendously telling. I knew Dylan was telling the truth the minute I heard the 1st couple of sentences coming out of her mouth and the awkwardness in her physical appearance when talking about these encounters and events. But, yea, I'd definitely agree with everything you've said. True enough.
I would like to thank you all for doing this series with so much respect and professionalism. It is so important what you are doing, you just don't know to what extent. I also thank Mia and her lovely daugther for being so brave and courageous. Thank you so much for sharing your such a painful story. As a mother I can't hardly express the pain I feel for Mia especially and all her suffering. Life is no fair, we need to show people how predators have been protected, how they behave, how to detect them and develop the skills to stop them ASAP. Only someone who has suffer a pain like that can understand what Mia had to go through. Thank you Mia for your courage, just by participating and giving your testimony you are helping so many mothers to develop awareness and watch out for these monsters. Keep working on the subject please, your work is necessary.
You seriously need to do some background reading about all this.
You might start by googling "Dory Previn"
Can't wait for the episode where Dory Previn is interviewed and talks about Mia's character and integrity.
Dory put her true feelings into song. Many concern Mia stealing her husband andre previn. I believe dory died a few years ago.
Or even plays her song “Daddy in the Attic”. Presumably on the playlist at chez Mia in her fantasy world.
Her "good friend" Farrow had poor Dory's husband's twins growing in her belly when she was 20 shortly after divorcing 50 yr old Sinatra who she later also went back again and cheated with
Grooming starts early it pushes the boundaries early to where it no longer has a boundary and the shame is real. The offender never feels like they do wrong. They never accept responsibility. It is always a child who has been rejected by a parent especially a father. It becomes normal until they see it somewhere that is a normal household and then the light goes on. I stayed at a friends house and when I did I saw how a real father showed daughters affection that was appropriately. Hiding under bed or in closet alarms should go off.
Yep. That's why offenders keep their children from going to other friends houses....so the child doesn't see what's normal.
I hope Moses Farrow is interviewed. It would make the story more balanced.
That's why he won't be.
He rejected to come.
@@puneeification The real reason is that he rejected to come to an intervie.
@@Aux0_o
I wonder why? 🤔😒
This wasnt about balance
If you want balance read moses blog his video on here
Me too
I believe Mia and Dylan. There's a lot more coming to light in the documentary that wasn't previously known. There's definitely a systematic and grande scale smear Mia campaign that's been going on forever but I BELIEVE HER
I don't.
And Mia being emotionally wonky does not exonerate allen...it actually can establish the target he saw her as, or he would have avoided her as risky, given his status as film industry giant.
This producers tone is a tad bit gleeful for such a serious subject matter. I m not convinced at all . Too one sided!
It is completely one-sided ... absurd and ludicrous. You can find out much more objective and factual information here on TH-cam.
Why do the Farrow family prefer a documentary & social media to a civil case with the due process that would involve?
That monster should be in Jail! Mia really is a great Mom, you can see it in those home videos.. Dylan is such an inspiration and I wish she gets the justice she deserves… and Soon-Yi is a victim as well, I hope she’s okay.
A great mom? Her daughter died alone of AIDS. She is a vile disgusting woman.
@@Ausgar-yc1yl Three of her adopted children have died, and another two don't want anything to do with her.
Facts: Allen accepted to conduct a polygraph test, Farrow refused. Something to shine on your brain.
I've just realized that Allen exploited the trope that adopted children don't form real bonds with their adoptive families / siblings. He was clearly an integral member of that family in an elevated / authoritative / parental sense. His apologists picked up with his narrative that relies on this lie and ran with it.
What?
@@1Riquena Don't worry about it.
You are right!
@@kdd3051 Don't worry about it.
When did he say that?
HBO had signed Ronan farrow to a documentary series in 2018. Google it. By airing this documentary they are creating a huge conflict of interest. They have a vested interest in showing Ronan and by extension his family in a good light.
Does the film talk about how abusive Mia was?
Nop
of course not, it just wants to continue with mia's deluded narrative no matter how much of a psychotic liar she is.
@A Non you should work for hbo
@@patriciorodriguez1020 ha
LOL the Allen trolls are out in full force just like Trump supporters.
This podcast is very interesting. I'm glad the truth is being made known. I feel bad for Dylan. If her dad was an ordinary Joe he would have gone to prison. It's especially troubling the way the media was complicit in downplaying the story when it happened.
I’d be with you if this was the actual story. There’s some serious wacky stuff going on with many of these people and the way this narrative is shaped. It’s not like ‘The Jinx’ where you see an entire objective picture of the events as they occurred. It’s a perspective shaped through one lens. I feel bad for Dylan in the sense that I believe that she believes it. This was investigated 25 years ago and they couldn’t even amass enough evidence to facilitate actual charges. This is a trial by media without system involvement.
@@connshawnery6489 It was a trial by media back then and he had the full force of the Harvey Weinstein's and Hollywood bigwigs behind him. It played out in the news trying to discredit the victim. Perspective.
@@MasterofScrutiny There’s evidence to corroborate the abuses perpetrated by Weinstein and others. Allen has gone on to stay married to Soon-Yi (creepy sure, I get it) and have their own kids. Farrow couldn’t make the allegations stick and she’s also a celebrity. Allen is not at the level of a Weinstein as they are attempting to portray. He can’t even pay actors any more than a SAG (scale) wage. You’d think that any of the initial investigations would have yielded something. Plus, he never offered to settle the case with any kind of gag order ala Weinstein. None of this fits.
kids call it toxic masculinity, we are raised to uphold the father figure no matter what, even if he's hurting youngsters in his care, it's the reason we see so much support for him and other rich men like him
The ads for this look as though as though it is biased against Farrow...he lived in a huge apt. near her, and they were together every single day for years...so really a husband and wife...her daughter was adopted, so what, it was her daughter...if Mia snapped a little, no wonder...no one deserves what she went through...her tear ducts broke, she cried so much....
Not every woman scorned fabricates and brainwashes her child to make accusations against her ex.
Responding by repeating what someone says...It’s called active listening. Psychologists and psychiatrists have used the technique forever.
I am so saddened by the lack of critical thinking in the comment sections on any of these Allen videos. Does not bode well for the future.
I’m sure his PR people have people going on sites like these to defend him. I’m completely serious.
You’re talking about the mobs emotionally chanting he’s Satan and should be in prison after watching a 45 minute documentary right?
And paying no attention to the facts and evidence found in the multiple year long criminal investigations, correct?
@@christoph1596 Nope. He's ready to sign people off never looking at the whole evidence. And has the nerve to talk about "lack of critical thinking".
@@christoph1596 what about the fact that he actually married the child of his girlfriend who he met when she was in preschool. That’s fact not fiction. That doesn’t seem the least bit creepy to you?
@@Kware56 wrong yes... illegal no... innocent till proven guilty. he took a lie detector. she didnt. look at moses farrow
Why dont you interview Moses
....coz it would completely torpedo this farrago of a documentary is my guessing
@@pauldunn108 agree!!! It's not balanced. It's a hatchet job
@@missygoldstein12 a "serious investigation"?
That's 3 YEARS in preparation ....& doesn't contact the principals on the other side until December 2020?!?!
("investigator" Amy Herdy claimed to have tried contacting WA in 2018....& that is contradicted by the necessary legal statement at the end of the documentary's OWN PODCAST, above!!!)
Moses Farrow has been messed up by this.
@@stupidostupido7694 he was messed up by Mia as was demonstrated by his earlier misplaced loyalty to her back in the 1990s.
You have READ his devastatingly comprehensive Open Letter, haven't you??
You should look up Moses's blog
They have, they're only on episode one so far..
@@kaleysorensen i don't know I have seen the episode but it seemed really one sided
How strange I ate pizza with some person who looks just like him .............
@@kaleysorensen oh so what episode do they mention it, do you have an advanced copy or something?
@@kaleysorensen actually they don’t, Moses isn’t current opinion isn’t involved
Moses Farrow claims that Mia was an abusive mother and has written extensive allegations. So has Soon Yi. I find it interesting that they are two of the adopted children of Asian descent. Are they ever going to be brought into the picture? This seems to be very one-sided.
Also should be noted that Tam and Lark claimed similar things, though neither are addressed at all (at least in the documentary) and both couldn’t voice their stories, as they died. Tam due to suicide and Lark from AIDS. Something they both dealt with without the support of Mia.
Also: two adopted children of hers committed suicide while in her care. That is not a great record for a mother and a Goodwill Ambassador for UNICEF. That should be enough to seriously question her as a mother and it should be enough material for a documentary about her questionable conduct.
@@kileyeileen No Moses claims it happened to Lark, Tam, and Thaddeus but they never made public statements. Strange how the only other children Moses claims were abused by Mia are dead or Soon-Yi.
Phenomenal documentary so far. You guys hit a home run with this.
I agree. This is some of the best fiction I have seen in awhile.
@@henrywallacesghost5883 Wrong! This is some of the best fiction you have HEARD in a while.
I love this documentary - Mia's best acting since Broadway Danny Rose.
She was not that great in Broadway Danny Rose, this documentary and Hannah and her sister solidify her as a superb actress
I haven't seen such fair and balanced filmmaking since Leni Riefenstahl's "Triumph of the Will".
He married his daughter and that to me is evidence that he groomed at least one child so whats to stop him from grooming another?
Well...there goes your evidence...
@@rl12345 uh no. How many school aged children do you want to marry. Please elaborate. Also, do you get with people because they have small children? We all want to know
he did not marry his daughter, what an ignorant and ill informed comment
@@missspell4897 She was 21.
It wasn't HIS daughter @ She is Andre Previn's daughter. Also, she was 20 when the incident happened , NOT 10 , or 11, or 12 !
Whoever is talking to Casey is doing a lot of editorializing during the interview. Doesn't sound like an unbiased reporter.
Exactly. "Here's an answer. Do you agree?"
There was 1 allegation , unsubstantiated, frequently disproven or disputed with conflicting testimony
And yet the speculation in this discussion is off the chart
LOL the Allen trolls are out in full force just like Trump supporters.
@@emallace447 The Mia trolls are all in the Salem Mass jury pool.
@@emallace447 You mean the perverts who still hope that kids were abused even though it was proven that that never happened.
@@nononsense4933 That's not a thing. It's just something enablers of abuse tell themselves so their favorite perverts face no accountability lol. Do you side with all powerful men who claim nothing happened, such as Donald Trump?
@@emallace447 It's not about taking sides - it's about looking at the facts objectively and reaching a conclusion
I once loved his films, now I just can't stomach them. DECONSTRUCTING HARRY is the most confessional I think...In MANHATTAN his girlfriend is a 17 yr old actress. Have Allen's defenders actually seen his films?? He's telling you who he is in his movies, plain sight!!
Thank you . He set a new standard for predatory behavior- he groomed the movie audience to accept his predilections as normal.
I wonder if Priscilla has read Moses Farrows blog and if so what she thinks of it?
@@Maggie-zr2ow "a police drawing of the crime scene"? Are you kidding me? this was in 1992 a few years after photography was invented - WHERE"S THE PHOTOGRAPH OF THE ATTIC? A "police drawing" at a 'crime scene' and no photograph in 1992 is absolutely absurd and ridiculous. And not believing Moses Farrow's account of his childhood in Mia Farrow's home where he experienced abuse as did his brothers and sisters - 2 of whom committed suicide - is shameful. What is your rational unbiased explanation for believing the recollections of a 7 year old girl who Moses AND the experts who investigated the case said was coached and rehearsed by Mia but not believing her 14 year old brother who was present the day of the alleged abuse and at twice her age is going to have more intellectual and emotional capacity to accurately recollect the day?
Priscilla thinks whatever she is told to think.
This is so biased. So much is left out. Next why don't you investigate Mia's child abuse and her four dead children.
@@rl12345 Exactly, she sounded unbelievable Priscilla had to call Mia,Dylan and Ronan, after she got the email sounds like they all got together and made a decision on what Priscilla should say.Priscilla was dramatic when she was talking she dated Mia son she made it sound like she lived there,she said maybe because she didn’t have that kinda family life and She probably didn’t have,these were two very famous wealthy people that would make it seem larger then life. Her saying he was there every single day and night how would she know that? Mia thinks of Priscilla as sole daughter and she thought of Mia as sole mother,sounds like she didn’t have very good bond with her own mother, so I get were she felt like she needed Mia.
@@kerriecarr6287 Priscilla is the biggest brown nosing sycophant I've ever seen. Her mother is a big time literary agent so that is how Dylan got a book deal before she even wrote a book.
WA groomed Mia, too!! Helloooo. Mia was his FIRST victim in the family, his FIRST target, bc without bypassing her, he couldn’t get to what he was really wanting.
Can we NOT blame the victims, please??
Jeez mon. For the love of all that’s good in the world.
Forget the NOT blaming the victim. MIA WILLINGLY had an affair in the 60's when she was 19 with a 51 year old man whom she later married and then divorced by the name of Frank Sinatra. So now I suppose you'll say Frank Sinatra groomed her as well ? Truth is truth.
@@fob1xxl precisely.
Allen is weird. Farrow is a flake & hypocrite.
Moses and Dylan say that Farrow was abusive to them.
Selective, identity-outrage; sponsored by MeToo.
The bias is strong with this one
remind me again...why did prosecutors decline to press charges in '92?
They decided that Dylan was too fragile to face a trial even though there was probable cause to charge Allen. This was from Frank Maco, then Connecticut prosecutor
Because it never happened.
@@jshuffield that’s NOT what the prosecutor said!
@@crytlmeen look deeper. You have to look at the facts not their BS documentary hit piece. Drs, the DA, all said nothing happened. Dylan is not believable. Neither is Mia.
I'm not doubting Dylan's account, but my God what an ANNOYING off putting, self absorbed victim. Cashing in her abuse for likes, views and followers....What a gross society we've become.
What Fletcher said is the opposite of the truth. He WAS NOT a father figure to any of the kids, but his kids, Moses, Ronan & Dylan. Jesus, she has the adult kids lying.
What else as they going to do. She has all the money and all the friends and connections. She can kick them out of ignore them like she did with her dead Asian children. This Mia Farrow thing is a complete outrage.
The funny thing is, you can read the contemporaneous transcript of the custody trial online...about how he was never around, knew nothing of the children’s’ lives, had nothing to do with them, etc. So which is true? The testimony at the custody trial or now? ‘Cos they can’t have it both ways.
@@magicpony9 One of the reasons he lost the custody case was because he didn't know any basic details about the kids. Hard to be a father figure when you probably don't know half the kid's names.
What's even more disturbing is that he was able to adopt 2 more kids with his Adopted Daughter/ Wife!!
The kids are private persons and never asked to be any part of this. They should be left out of this.
Because HE WAS found NOT GUILTY IN COURT !
She is not his daughter... Mia adopted her with someone else...
Ya, because he was found innocent multiple times..... they all concluded Dylan was making this up or manipulated and rehearsed by Mia Farrow..
And his wife wasn’t his adopted daughter, or his step daughter it was his girlfriends adopted daughter whom he never lived with. And a romantic relationship began when she was 20, Research please.
Does it matter to you that what you have said in public is a lie?
This comment section is so disheartening
:( reminds me of the people still defending Michael Jackson.......
I want to say so much to you but it’s clear you’re not logical . But here is some advise . Stop watching tv
I believe he is guilty but I adore his films
@@alexstar5182 The two state investigations and the prosecutor's own experts didn't believe he was guilty.
@@rl12345 Not true.
Exactly my thoughts.
This comment section proves the power in controlling the media narrative. People are parroting Allen’s talking points.
Have any of them seen his catalog of films? There is the consistent theme of attraction to a much younger woman and the conceit of this totally unattractive nerd being irresistible to gorgeous women who are neurotic and lacking in self esteem.
He literally groomed the audience to accept his fantasies as acceptable.
Yeah, Quentin Tarantino must be a slaughterer, Coppola a maf, and you know what? Christopher Nolan is a time traveler.
Comparing a much younger woman to a 7 year old child is a sickening argument that's parroted by all Mia supporters. By the way do you know how old Mia Farrow was when she married (the how old, remind me) Frank Sinatra?
In that same vein, it's hard to tell how many of these comments are orquestrated precisely to control the media narrative. I've seen many suspicious recurrencies in accounts and replies. I wouldn't put beyond Allen's camp to do that for him.
That is utterly different to molesting a 5 yr old. Completely. His audience consists of intelligent people.
I'm confused about how Mia thought he was weird around Dylan and then continued to have him around her children and become an adoptive father. As a woman, I'm confused. Anyone who has to speak with a professional about being weird around my child can't come back. Period!
They had to share custody of Moses, Dylan and Ronon, the alleged molestation happened on one of the visitation just weeks after Mia discovered her daughter's graphic pictures. Watch the second episode you will understand
I think it’s hard to believe that someone you love and trust could do something like this.
@@mkfd4571 yes but at the point they speak to a therapist about it? Haven’t you come to the reality by then?
This case was investigated several times and there never was any abuse. Her story now is completely different than 30 yrs ago. At that time she still wanted to play in his movies, and at one time asked for 7 million dollars to make it all go away. She even wanted to marry him. Now suddenly she thinks he was weird. Yeah right.
@@shirleychiu8888 The photos were discovered in January and the alleged incident happened in August - so months not weeks.
Wow a lot of victim blaming here, and a lot people sympathizing with the offenders. DISGUSTING.
@Jonathan Beck Hey why not look ate all of Allens films -what are they about? - abusing young women.
Can anyone tell me what the background graphic is? It sort of repaints or re-scans occasionally.
This raises more questions than it answers...
Agree like why would HBO finance this garbage? Glad the ratings are so low.
If Farrow had accepted her adult daughter's relationship with Allen, here is how things might look today. 1. Farrow would have a relationship with her daughter, Soon-Yi, and Soon-Yi's two young adult children, her grand-daughters. Instead, the adoptive parent, Farrow, severed her profound responsibility to her adopted daughter, a young woman who had already experienced the loss of her birth mother. 2. Soon-Yi's and Moses' relationships with their siblings, Dylan and Ronan, would be intact today. Soon-Yi's and Moses' children would know their cousins and their aunt and uncle. Farrow is responsible for creating these painful estrangements, and the fact that several of these children are adoptees for whom loss is even more devastating than usual is especially cruel. 3. Dylan would be a happy woman with an intact family; instead, as a result of Farrow's coaching, Dylan is psychologically damaged and estranged from a parent and siblings.
Imagine yourself being cleared of a serious wrong-doing by two of the leading investigative agencies into the wrong you were alleged to have committed. Imagine how social media and profit-obsessed Hollywood moguls would keep the scandal alive. Does anyone think that an adoption agency would have allowed Allen and his wife to adopt two children if there were the slightest hint of truth in these allegations? Does anyone give a moment's pause to consider how Allen's two young adult daughters are affected by the smear campaign against their father? You think this is nothing? Nancy Sinatra complained that her children were affected by Farrow' claim that Frank Sinatra may be Ronan's father. Appreciate how the media can damage the innocent.
I, like other adoption professionals, admired Farrow in the 1970s and 80s when she campaigned for international adoption. That respect and esteem fell away because of the many clear evidences of her failure to give her children the safety every child deserves. It was alarming that, at a whim, Farrow would change the names of her children as though they were pets to whom a name--the essence of one's identity--belonged to someone else. At one time Dylan was called Malone. Until Farrow changed it to Eliza. Until Farrow changed it back to Dylan. Imagine not knowing who you are.
Farrow broke the vows she made to her adopted children, to love and protect them always, to put them first always. If the truth were as titillating as scandal, this pile-up of tragedies would never have happened. Dylan has brought no civil suit against Allen, why? The overwhelming evidence that no abuse took place would deprive her of her raison d'etre. Her adoptive mother took so much away from her. Who can blame Dylan from clinging to the mythology that gives her meaning?
A + Soon-yi = Disastrous for family no matter how you look at it. WA was the predator, period. He married his adopted daughter - creepy.
THE VOICE OF REASON!!! TRUTH HERE!!! GET YOUR TRUTH HERE, FOLKS!! Nah, they won't listen to you. They'd rather be gossiping, hateful idiots. god help them all. "They' are 'us.' We are all one1 we really need to wake these people up quickly. The over all well being of the planet doesn't have time for such ignorance and stupidity.
Agreed. Still creepy that he married her but I am not convinced by the one sided claims after they had been dismissed in the past and the fact that Mia is no saint....
So true good analysis
@@caroespinoza9287 Not according to Soon-yi, who has continued to be his wife for decades. This is all based on one possible event that occurred in a tiny attic in a very brief period. No clear evidence and conttadictory testimony. We're not talking about Weinstein here. Absolutely no other accts of Allen engaging in this behaviour.
Further on Ms. Ziering’s dishonesty.
She has been critical of Alec Baldwin for his claim that her documentary amounts to a “trial be media,” then claims it was Allen who made the scandal public.
It wasn’t. Maureen Sullivan made the first public statement about the issue.
Ms Ziering wouldn’t know a fact from a falsehood if the former said hello and the latter goodbye.
TRUTH HERE! GET YOUR TRUTH HERE FOLKS!
Hollywood's Scandals? I do not understand. What has Hollywood got to do with anything?
That's where the companies he works for sometimes is based. See? Hallywud!
Yes, it is very important that celebs control the narrative, like giving interviews & dropping that another man may be Ronan's father. Just cause...
She cheated with another grown man. She did not cheat with Woody's son. I have to question Moses who claimed that Woddy was not a father figure, but the other children state that he was.
@@herstory4738 It's possible that kids in a family can see things very differently. Just look at the difference in the stories of Mommy Dearest author Christina Crawford vs Cindy and Cathy Crawford.
@@herstory4738 just an fyi, she cheated with different grown mEn, multiple times. WA started seeing grown Soon-Yi at 21 after him and Farrow were done but filming a movie together. I don't know if WA has ever cheated. Maybe. Soon-Yi is 50 now still married to him with two daughters in college
She cheated with her ex husband, not a child.
@@SD-vs8oz we don’t know when he started dating his stepdaughter. He’s children’s sister. His girlfriend’s daughter he helped raise. 😳
Thank you for your work. As a survivor, it's very helpful to hear truthful information shared.
Is there going to be a part 4 ?
Quick Poll: How many of Mia's supporters have never served on a jury in Salem, Mass?
You opened a TH-cam account just a few days before the series aired, and are going up and down in the commend section trashing Farrow, HBO and the series. Hmm, something smells a bit fishy here...
@@DasFengster If you're smelling something fishy invest in some personal hygiene products.
@@tracy2648 TROLL
@@acm441 If my comment has in any little way made you uncomfortable or caused you distress then I've done my job calling out uninformed witch hunters carrying pitchforks and tiki torches ready to lynch him based on allegations that were investigated by both law enforcement and child abuse experts at Yale and were found to be lies.
@@tracy2648 Like I said, Troll,,,,,,,
The thumbsucking! Sick, sick, sick!!!
You believe that?
@@mandaqu multiple people corroborated it happened. EVEN DYLAN. Why do you do constant mental gymnastics to defend this man you've never met? Your blind defense of him is bizarre.
@@nancyisabelle9486 have you met them?
I find it sick that you listened to these lies at all. i refuse to hear it. This is NOT a fact. This is a LIE!!
@@sethflix Were you there? Are you somehow involved in the case? If not, how do you know?
Allen has always being strange. People that don’t believe the abuse are in denial. Just like other famous celebrities
Absolutely. People have a hard time separating the art from the person.
Now all you have to do is point out the non-strange celebrity.
@@russt4716 Thom & Rita Hanks
@@niccolea2086 Well Done.
So the logic goes:
If a person seems strange: (A)
And they are committed of a crime: (B)
They without question committed said crimes (C)
I sense slightly flawed logic there, hbu?
Woody's book must have really provoked her, now even a whole podcast?
Okay troll.
That must have been it.
Don't forget, Dylan's a published author now and needs to sell a few more copies.
I'll have to read that.
@@fieldingm1969 what a lack of understanding of the subject you have dude. You don't know what happens to the person who is abused and how important is to the fact these women are talking and the filmmakers have had the opportunity to do this. Do you know how common is this problem in society? How many children suffer from this? Think deeply, and take care of your children if you even have some or do nowadays
I was naive once too. 💔
Sending you love & light. I relate. We got this 🙂✌🏻💓
Man, I'm tired of hearing pseudo-intellectuals talk about "the narrative."
Search , "Elaine's restaurant scene" from his Manhattan film. Huge red flags that everyone seemed to miss.
You need to stop your imagination running riot
@@mandaqu none so blind as those who refuse to see.
I will
Think this sort of thing hasn't been happening for years in all cultures? I just don't think it is right to go against anybody's will no matter what age and I think he suffers from his actions.
....& yet Mia Farrow's OWN PUBLISHED ACCOUNT in her book What Falls Away completely refutes the parental relationship between WA & Soon-Yi that the "experts" are seeking to establish at the end of the podcast above.
Inconvenient, huh?
Apparently you can have it both ways.
When you're trying to demonstrate that he groomed Soon-Yi and Dylan - he had a relationship with all of the children and was a father figure.
On the other hand, when you're trying to retain custody of the children - he "demonstrated no parenting skills that would qualify him as an adequate custodian..."
Quite the chameleon
@@eek8066 yes indeed, but you know how you lose the intended audience - who have no appetite for background reading - when you go beyond the length of a tweet, preferably in UPPER CASE for full melodramatic effect!
@@eek8066 Exactly. That's how it works, all right. sad but true.
The filmmakers have been widely criticized for their approach. At best, they are hacks. The truth about this case is easily found with online documents. The filmmaker was unequivocally exonerated. Any mother who would be disappointed with this finding is not a fit mother. The rest is noise.
I believe you Dylan.
Well, that makes one.
@@squatch545 There’s a lot more. Have fun with status quo and protecting predators.
@@sea_hous Keep drinking Mia's Kool Aid.
Eye opening ...I’m glad this is being brought out in a fair, honest way.. Heartbreaking for the whole family....
"fair, honest way" says Susan, dishonestly.
"A fair, honest way" would had been telling the two sides of the story. This doc would had been considered gross even in Stalin's Russia
I've seen hostage videos played in a more " fair, honest way".
"fair honest way" that apparently involves 3 years of investigation....then approaches the principals on the other side in December 2020!!
Sarcasm?
Mia is one odd duck.
I think the word you're looking for legally here is "insane."
He married his adopted daughter that should create some bells or red flags right there.
So he was never convicted of a crime but still the accusations are put forward .
Allegedly they had a court case stipulation and he paid 7 million dollars.
Apparently Mia Farrow was then nice enough to drop it, only temporarily it seems.
Mia doesn't want a criminal investigation, because she and the other family members will have to answer to investigators under oath, and all the dirt will come out that puts Mia in a very bad light.
@@euthman heresay
Powerful people got away with convictions, doesn’t mean the abuse never happened.
@@euthman Truth. They will never willingly put themselves into a situation where they can be cross examined, have witnesses called etc. That's the reason Dylan has never followed a civil case against Allen though she certainly can if she chose to.
Who is profiting from this series? Any of it going to help victims?
Victims profit if they are believed, and can receive compassion and support to enable them to cope and heal, so far as is possible.
No, not a thing Dylan Farrow ever says or does goes beyond her own alleged victimhood. She is an advocate for nobody but herself and, for the life of me, I do not understand how so many people do not see that.
I believe Dylan!
So? What does believing her have anything to do with whether this event of abuse actually happened. People believed the kids from the McMartin scandal and some of those kids to this day think they were abused, but the exact opposite is true. Believing Dylan is meaningless.
To believe Dylan is to ignore the facts.
Woody’s helping Daisy hide her activities is NOT the action of a father but extremely inappropriate.
The comments in here a surprisingly hostile, with a lot of thumbs ups too. Very curious. I appreciate the program and find it very enlightening - regarding WA’s behavior. This was a very complicated family.
Because not every man is a coward who supports men hating females.
Someone once said that genius does not necessarily attach itself to the best people. Can we separate the man from his films?
no. because all of his films are perverse. Manhattan is sickening
Nope. I'll never watch his movies again
No because he would profit from that and he’s an abuser
I believe Dylan Farrow.
I believe that she believes her memories
@@boboloko I believe Dylan.
I believe Moses
@@boboloko I believe Dylan.
@@alejandramd2 Gosh this is how predators get to do what they do...
Happy to see HBO and these poor so-called documentary filmmakers are being sued.
I hope HBO and filmmakers get totally crashed in legal bills and loose big in court
Mark Whitehead - it looks like an abuse of the “fair use” to incorporate whole sections of the audio memoir by Allen verbatim - looks like shoddy work by HBO’s legal division to have signed off on that.
YAY! ME TOO YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW HAPPY I AM TOP HEAR THIS!!!
Where’s the full documentary?
@Trevor Chase any links were we can watch it for free?
HBO I think
Do not believe Mia farrow at all - I’ve done thorough research and snd Mia farrow did this to him out of revenge
Exactly!
Thank you
I believe Dylan. ❤🇨🇦
Are you gonna be interviewing Whoody Allen? What about his wife, Soon- Yi Previn? Are you gonna interview Moses Farrow? Or are you just gonna talk about Mia and Dylan's side of the story??????
Amy, as an aside, the phrase is actually... “ for. all intents and purposes”. Thank you for your work and this podcast.
That is what she said.
Amy's not too interested in accuracy.
Check out the "Controversies" section of the Wikipedia article on The Hunting Ground
(& the ridiculous assertion on Podcast#2 that Stickland/Strickland is as common a surname here in the UK as Smith is in the US: utter, easily discredited bilge)
Where’s episode 2?
I misread the title as Alien vs Ferro...
I misread your comment as Alien vs Ferrero
I love the documentary - it's Mia best acting since Broadway Danny Rose!
Im not a fan by any means of this new media cancel coulture but "gun to my head" id say he did that and lots of artists were prosecuted by angry online mob, while this story didnt change by how many years?
Story changed many times. Do some research before you put a gun to your head.
🌿This is a very recommendable and interesting podcast! It is very important to hear their truth. Very respectful and profound. Greetings from Germany, Mila Anderson
This documentary convinced me that Allen is innocent - it was a propaganda hatchet job!!!
This man is innocent, as multiple investigations have already concluded. This documentary is so one sided it’s fair to call it a hit piece.
The Ct state cops believed Mia ok n Dylan
@@kathleengleason9805 No, they did not *all* believe Mia and Dylan.. some might’ve, but not all did that’s for sure.. it was the CT police who, as part of their investigation, referred Dylan to the Yale Child Psychiatric clinic, where she was interviewed extensively and the doctors concluded she was making it up, either because she was just imagining things, or because Mia Farrow manipulated and rehearsed it all with her.
Their reasoning: she contradicted herself constantly, her story of what happened kept changing, and there were portions of what she said that the doctors said were clearly rehearsed..
They also did not press charges, so clearly it wasn’t as open and shut as HBO’s documentary wants to portray it.
Go look it up.
I know from the direct state cop that u r wrong
@@kathleengleason9805 Based on the word of one person you’re saying all people in the CT police force, without question believed Mia and Dylan? Is that what you’re implying? Because that’s a broad generalization you can’t back up.
All I said above was what I just stated, plus the factual account of Yale’s psychiatric team concluding Dylan’s accusations were not true. That’s just fact that’s not an opinion.. it was the CT state attorney who said he had probable cause but wouldn’t charge Allen because he “didn’t want to put Dylan through that”, but he also stated later in his decision that there was insufficient evidence to actually convict him of any wrongdoing.
LOL the Allen trolls are out in full force just like Trump supporters.
Hope Mia gets a screenwriting credit for this mockumentary.
"Journalism" at its worst. Everything in this series is cherry-picked. The opinions of expert therapists who examined the individuals in the case are ignored, leaving only gossip and biased sources.
Such a painful tale- I am inclined from all I have read not to believe Mia .
What about her daughter?
@@user-jj1yb7mz9b Exactly. People acting as if one party has to be innocent, while both could have been bad parents or bad people in general. Same for the Heard and Depp thing. Both are terrible human beings, yes people push a narrative that one is innocent. Never get why people choose it as a hill to die on.
Can you be more specific?
@@crytlmeen About what?
@@OpheliaNL I’m curious what the commenter read that leads them to disbelieve Farrow
Does anyone know where to find Moses Farrow’s 1992 interview? It’s probably the smoking gun to see if Mia was coaching the kids. One glaring fact is she allowed her unaccompanied 13 year old son hold an interview with the press to discuss very complicated adult issues to disavow WA.
I can't have much respect for these so-called investigative journalists. I'm glad they're illuminated because I'm not. I'm just hearing subjective point of views. They find family friends perspectives revelatory. I don't get it. This is what they call facts.
I'm about a third of the way into this podcast and frankly, the panel seems hung up on belaboring the obvious. Can anyone talk about family dysfunction without dragging out every cliche known to humankind? If you have new information, then come to the point - a talent few of the participants here seem to have. Also, no one has to humanize Mia Farrow or the Farrow family for me - makes it feel like you're trying to peddle some sort of PR to me. I fully understand their humanity - do not sentimentalize them. Jesus, will you people try to act and sound like documentary film makers please!
Will you try to sound and act like a human being please?
@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive Just because you disagree with me doesn't negate my humanity. Tell me, do you have this problem with everyone?
Reporters are now free to no longer be factual at all, it seems.
@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive Look whose talking, misanthrope.
It sounds like a doc done on the order and control of Mia Farrow and the kids that are on her side of the story.
It may be one sided, but Allen is still a sick man, and Farrow is just as culpable.
why ? what did she do ? He is the abuser.
@@djsolomon she kept her children around him, she thought there was nothing wrong with him 'requesting' she adopt a blonde haired girl with blue eyes..
@@djsolomon why do you believe he is the abuser? I'm looking for facts, proof and evidence.
I wonder why Ronan not interviewed. I guess cuz he would seem too biased
I believe he has made a public statement supportive of his sister.
It has all been investigated and proven to be a load of bunk this hit piece is nothing short of slander.
And Dylan's not telling her own story. She's reading news articles from 1997 and court documents. She probably doesn't remember anything.
How do you know? I’m sure you have childhood memories at 7 especially if it’s traumatic and changed your life forever
@@utoobjh How about when multiple criminal investigations and an extensive series of interviews at Yale’s Children Psychiatric Hospital all interviewed Dylan as a young child and all concluded the accusations were false and Dylan had either made this up in her head or was manipulated and rehearsed to her by Mia Farrow
Of course you're a Trump supporter too. Ya'll just love defending abusive narcissistic men.
agreed. BC is it is ludicrous
@@emallace447 still dishing out the ludicrous insults instead of dealing with the points raised, I see.
You are the ideal audience for this documentary
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This is very interesting and all, but the real question needs to be asked. Is Ronan Frank Sinatra son?
😉🤫🤐😐
@Peyton Thedog ... and Frank Sinatra was a mobster, so that makes Mia his maul, who learned how get underhanded revenge from one of the best.
None of the Farrows wanted to talk and then everyone did. And they were reluctant and they also bring this up every couple of years. Are the filmmakers either deluded or dumb or something I don't understand right now?
I believe in this family. I'm really sorry for them. Hope they find justice. Greetings from Barcelona.
They have the opportunity to find justice but they won’t do it. Ask yourself why not.
Dylan God bless you