2JZ Tuesday #9 - Difference between 2JZ GE and GTE cylinder heads (the best comparison!)
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- Here is the hands down the best guide for the difference between 2JZ GE (NA) and 2JZ GTE Cylinder Heads. No need to buy both and compare yourself, inside there are the top 8 differences and many similarities are discussed inside!
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Here you go the difference between 2JZ GE (NA) Cylinder head and 2JZ GTE (Turbo) Cylinder head! You don't need to buy both to know the similarities and differences too! Here is my another video about the difference between the 2JZ GE and 2JZ GTE Engine block: th-cam.com/video/ZZ9DwNeW6UM/w-d-xo.html
if i have 2jGE can i replace the cylinder head for 2jzGTE?
@@carloscolberg4997 yes. all 1jzgte/2jzgte/ge/vvti and non are all interchangeable when it comes to the head and block.
Is the GE worth the time to go NA T? I'm looking for 400-500 hp range for now. Heard a GT45 NA T was a good set up. What's your input.?
One last thing. Can a GE head be machined diy for better cooling and fit a GTE gasket?
@@Infowar2024 i think is more easy swap the gte cylinder head with all turbos system on my lexus is200 and put one big turbo. Because i hear the valves on gte cylinder head are more strong than ge this is the reason why i want swap the heads.
Very good video, didn’t think there would be a big difference with the GE and the gte.
You just saved me , was waiting for this video for ages
Hello Michael. I'm really understanding your vedios even my English is not perfect good channel and good person iwish for you happy life always. Thank you for this wonderful vedios again.
very informative automotive comparison.
Great info
great video, very interessting :)
Thanks for the help bud. 🤙
I'm learning about these engines as I own a 2JZGE, and 2JZGTE, so this is of great help to me, and I'm sure many others. Thanks sir.
Hey friend, thanks for the info. Keep pumping there out bro! You are definitely helping the Supra community out
Nice video!
The quench area on the gte looks like a more suitable design for boost aswell.
Informative, Thanks....
Do One on 2JZ GE block and GTE Block
Much Appreciated.
Good videos
thanks for the videos :)
thanks! much love appreciated
thank you I am rebuilding a 2JZ-GE right now
Dont , go get gte
Great video, should've noted vvti in the beginning of video. But thank you
Thank you
Looking forward to swap my coupe out just tryna figure out which route to goo btwn ecu boost n fuel
HI thanks alot for the info!
do they use the same head bolts?
thanks in advance!
i have the is300 2jzge it’s so nice to know the difference between the two blocks
Yeah good to know more so that u can be sure what to do next
Hi! Michael is very helpful what you doing. first time I see someone is doing this. but my question is would the 2JZGTE head fit on to 2JZGE long block? it would help me a lot on my plan to my build my 2JZGE.
yea! we all do that too! 2JZ GE is much cheaper
Great video. There is just not enough like this online!
thanks bro.. dont forget to subscribe for more content coming up!
hi, great vidio .. i am trying to see if there is a differance in the coolant outlet ports on front on exhaust sides of heads .. is hole and bolts spacing the same or differant ?
Yes one is left one is right. Not interchangeable
Very nice!! So do you think that GSC S1 GTE VVTi cams would fit in a GE VVTi head???
yes but be careful of the cam sensor position, it might hit or different number of teeth
Michael Chung Racing -Cars Explained so i will still need to modify the head for the new cam sensor or how?
@@Crazy_ATV_rider this one u have to fit it in to see.. Either u can machine a spacer for sensor or adjust on the ecu
Michael Chung Racing -Cars Explained thanks so much for the help! I will look up more, the sensor i don’t think that would be a problem because i’m going aem infinity standalone ecu
I doing so Much n Warching ALL UR VIDEOS , PLZ TELL ME IF A GTE HEAD WILL FIT ON A GE BLOCK ?
Haha yes direct fit
hi, are there differences with 2jz gte vvti Supra vs 2jz gte vvti Aristo? I only know the rear or front sump oil pan. they told me smaller oil pump on aristo and slightly narrower head suction pipes in aristo. what do you tell me ? thankssss
So question would it be better for me to buy a jdm 2jzgte vvti and swap out my 2jzge engine? And if I do that is it a direct fit or will I have to do some mods besides wiring harness to get engine to fit in my 2002 gs3? also can I use my 5sp auto Trans or must I use the 4sp Trans that comes with motor? And lastly if I just decided to go with making my 2jzge NA in to a gte is the head the only difference bottom is the same? Please reply back asap....thx
1. Yes it is direct fit, but engine wiring you have to reuse 2JZ GTE VVTI, intercooler hoses and small things
2. Yes you can reuse the transmissions, the bellhousing are the same, but I am not sure about the HP ratings
3. hmm the bottom are quite the same, but GTE with sturdier con rods and pistons, oil cooler, turbo oil feed and return. =)
Can you do a video on the Difference between a 2JZ-GTE & 2JZGTE-VVTI Wire harnesses... Including Layout differences, Connectors, and missing or extra connectors?
Hmm if 2jz gte non VVTi and VVTi, the difference is just VVTi socket. The rest still the same. If 2jz GE and gte, there are only a few differences, namely, the tps location, MAF vs MAP and air temp sensor. The rest are the same..
@@cheapkailaujing What about USDM VS JDM Harnesses.
Lets say I planned to Swap a JDM 2JZ-GTE Aristo engine into a JDM 2JZ-GE JZA80. Besides Coils what would the differences be. Could the 2JZ-GE Harness work on the GTE? Are the ECU Pins the same? or there are variances that might need to be re-pinned to match. Could make an interesting video as well
Another question to consider is. Can a GTE VVTI Harness work on a GTE Non-VVTI if you changed the ECU Connector? Would all the connectors be the same besides the ECU Connector 🤔💭
@@BjornFSE hmm i have no way to confirm it, but i think the difference is just the vvti socket
@@BjornFSE sorry we have no access to USDM engine at all. what is the reason of reusing the harness, if u are changing to a new engine, it should comes together with its wiring..
Hey bro, quick question. What's the advantages and disadvantages of using a non VVTI GE block and VVTI GTE head? I've seen some people do it here in the US.
some people worry of the vvti causing interference and catastrophic failure.. so they use non vvti one whole set. but some have tested and using vvti all the time, with better response =D
Very nice video but I have one question, will the GTE head fit on the GE block? And what would you need to make that happen cause you aside something’s are different
fit, but there is some water outlet and oil outlet difference for the turbo, oil filter with water cooled hoses. others are exactly the same
Michael Chung Racing -Cars Explained thank you for responding so fast, if I were to run the whole stock the head would there also be a wiring issue I would have to tackle?
@@justini2351 most of the sensors and stuffs are on the head, so if u are using gte head, u have to use gte wiring harness haha =D or rewire a new harness =D
What’s the difference between 2jz gte and ge cams?
Looks like a machine shop could open up the water passages to make more similar?
Hmm better don't change the internal water passageway but modify externally
what about a 2jzge non vvti vs GE vvti comparison?
When is your next video
Great video, thank you!!!
Is the bottom block the same just the heads are different ?
the bottom block is nearly the same and u can check it out my new video about the difference of these 2 blocks
th-cam.com/video/ZZ9DwNeW6UM/w-d-xo.html
Hi great video! I’m just confused, I have seen on forums that the gte valve covers fit directly on to the ge and it has been done many times, can you explain this as one side did not fit for you? Thank you so much!
oh vvti and non vvti valve covers are different. because of the vvti solenoid stuck out. and the screw locations are different too T_T
Thank you for your reply I’m learning a lot from your videos, so am I correct in saying that non vvti gte valve covers fit directly on to a non vvii ge head?
@@TheTommycute oh dear sorry i don't know about it. since i dun have non vvti gte head. i had one vvti gte head, and i machined a non vvti cam into it. but i dunno about the valve covers T_T sry
Oh I didn’t realise that they were vvti heads you were comparing, 👍
what about the middle section of the intake manifold?
example, GE Head with GE intake manifold adapter or pipes section can that bolt on to the Actual Intake manifold of a GTE Intake? (The Actual Intake body)
Nope.. Cannot match at all. Holes for air and bolts locations are not the same
Michael Chung Racing -Cars Explained thanks for clearing that up 🙌🏽
That was a a good video man 👍
I appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I've always wondered why I don't see people with is300's that have the power of a Supra.
Keep up the good content
thanks for your support! =D it is not easy to do new content, make sure to drop ur questions down the comments so that I can answer u guys with new vids =)
Do you know of a parts list that I can use for a rebuild of the 2JZ GE?
Haha u gotta watch my other video regarding changing 2jz NA to T
Are the head internals interchangeable between the ge head & gte head? E.g valves, springs, retainers, buckets etc
Yes.. But not the cams
@@cheapkailaujing perfect thank you for quick reply 👍🏼
I may play with it from time to time running but no drifting or dragging it...
Would i be able to build a GE Head with GTE internals & Cams ? i was considering to do a GE block w/ a GTE head but if it’s possible to build the GE Head Internally with GTE parts i’ll save a lot of money
yeap i have a few videos talking about the NA and Turbo conversion =D those videos that i have experimented and let u guys know so that u guys can save more money
Hi. I have a 2jzgte head and want to put it in my 95 na supra. Can you tell me what I need to do?
I want to convert it to turbo with the 2jzgte head because it looks cleaner without the distributor.
I bought a 97 lexus sc 300 with the 2jz-ge engine, it will be a daily driver, but I want a little more power 350-400hp, how would you recommend I get to That level of power?
@@cheapkailaujing thanks, I'll look more into it
What about the cam shafts? Are they interchangeable?
Sorry I didn't try it, but it should be interchangeable. Except for VVT-i and non vvti. And also some cylinder head has 2 cam sensor input, some has 1 only, so have to check on that too
would installing a gte cylinder head onto a GE block essentially be direct fit bolt on, or would their be fabricating needed?
direct bolt on =D just have to check out for oil supply for turbo etc =D
@@cheapkailaujing what do you mean by oil supply to turbo?
@@isaacgarcia2979 2jz gte has turbo, GE no turbo. But gte turbo has oil feed directly from the block, at GE head has the oil supply but blocked off. Either you can unblock it or use the vvti oil supply for your NA-T turbo
I have a 2jz NA engine... if I decide to boost it... how much boost is safe??
Hmm sorry for NA engine.. Especially u don't know what pistons and con rods it has, better don't add boost. For more info u can search for my other videos regarding the difference between pistons and con rods
HI,is 2jzgte and 2jzge crankshaft the same???? is it possible to use a 2jzge crankshaft in a 2jzgte engine??
yeap! Crankshaft is exactly the same!
@@cheapkailaujing ok nice,so i can use the 2jzge crank in my 2jzgte vvti engine right????
Hey i have a question i have a 2jz ge vvti engine. That I want it to make 400-500hp. I’m going to put a turbo. What do I have to change in it to make that power?
I’m going to put gte pistons & rods & this engine is going in a 280z
Michael Chung vui min sure well 👍👍 & keep updating your video you they help us a lot
If you can, can make a video on a 2jz ge vvti engine on how to make more horsepower on it 👍👍👍
@@josemarichalar7437 not easy, but i will do that... budget constraints..
will the gte non vvti head fit on the na block?
exact fit =D
Iwant to know the difference between 1jz ge vvti and 1jz gte vvti cylinder head. If iwant to feat 1jz gte vvti stock turbo on 1jz ge vvti. Is it feat directly or Ihave to modify it?
Sorry I don't know much about 1jz ge
@@cheapkailaujing
Thank you 🌹
Cual es mejor 1jz ge NA vs 2jz ge NA
Can I slAp a gte head on my ge block?!?
Are the non vvti gte and ge cams the same by chance
Hmm sorry I have not encountered non VVTi gte.. But I think different because bc racing has separated them?:)
Non vvti or vvti?
Why would NA have intake water jackets only and GTE have exhaust water jackets only?!? Wouldn't it be better to have water jackets on both sides for either engine?
there are water passage inside, but the jackets are at different locations only
@@cheapkailaujing Oh, I see. Okay then!
Ge and gte in/ex valve size?
He said they are the same size. I think so.
The problem is that you are using the bad GE head (vvti). The GE vvti head has waaaaay smaller intake ports than the GE non vvti. I am using a GE NON-VVTI on my 2jz build and i deleted the distributor and drilled/welded a cam sensor bung on the same location as the GTE and GEvvti so I can use GTE cams. I paid $39 for that GE non VVTi head (vs $1200-1500 for a GTE head). So I spent the rest of the money in 272 BC cams, springs, etc. I honestly don't like anything GTE because it is overpriced. You can find a GE non vvti in a junkyard for $250. (instead of buying a GTE for $3,000).
Ah that's a good deal.. Sorry I don't have ge non VVTi to do a comparison too
Same valve diameter?
yes but the profile is slightly different for air to flow in.
Michael Chung Racing -Cars Explained Did you ever find out which exhaust port is bigger ?
Share this video to those who’s selling their 2jzge Lexus as it was a Supra gte.. those are two different engines
They have different head and piston compared to the non VVT-i 2JZ GE (block, crank and rods are the same). Now the 2jz ge vvt-i has weaker rod and pistons.
OK it will be a daily driver I don't drift and I want like 400hp...
nice.. u need reliability too, i got one vid on it too =)
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Can we use a GTE head on a ge block ?
Haha yes.. Direct fit