Toyota is the biggest auto manufacturer in the world. Theres too much money in building Camrys and Corollas to care about supporting their old stuff. Can't even get MR2 stuff from Toyota anymore which is why i got into BMW's instead. Complete horseshit. You cant new OEM parts, which is why people pay 5x the price on Ebay for a used headlight, meanwhile you can buy any part you want for a 100+ year old Mercedes.
Placeholder Name I feel on that because in Japan they don’t keep there cars that old due to there taxes and reg fees the older the car more expensive it gets. It’s slowly changing with Toyota selling some parts for the A70/A80 Supra’s and Mazda with the NA MX5 and Nissan with R32 GTR.
@@iheartgs400 What can you get for the Supra MK4 now? My mate just bought a Toyota Soarer which is basically a Lexus SC300 on the Supra platform but with a 1JZ GTE motor and hes having problems finding stock Toyota parts for maintenance.
@@RADIndustries Hey bud seen your TH-cam video about the different 2jz’s I want a 2jzgte vvti. Not at $6k. Why did the prices shoot up? Also should I wait or save or go a different route? Do you think the price will drop if so when?
@@alejandrocervantes7123 supply and demand supply dwindling away and demand is sky high the cars they were coming out of are becoming legal for importation which means prices on the cars have gone up aswell aswell as the engines and cars have been exported out of japan to all over the world so your best bet is to get a ge vvti and build it
@@gabedaxe477 MKIV supra obviously, but even a completely wrecked one is still far too valuable to even both with. It's all about MK3 supra engine swaps. Sadly i'll have to be content with my 7M-GE for a long time, but I do love the way it sounds.
You should do that 2jz ge vvti rebuild. I have an 02 is300 and would like to make more power with it. Very informative, learned a lot about the differences in under 15 min.
recently imported a supra with a non-vvti...looking for ways to rebuild it and turbo the car properly! Subscribed to learn more about 2JZ and see the build process!
Very very knowledgeable video bud! I love how you went into detail and explained everything between them. I love learning new things about stuff. You should seriously consider doing more videos like this explaining the differences and the pro’s/con’s of all these different parts and what not. A lot of people can seriously learn a lot from you man. Again, super awsome video buddy!! I also love the quality of this video!! Keep up all your hard work dan!! You are most definitely one of the top 5 best youtuber’s buddy. Stay safe out there man!!
From what i'm aware the 2jz-ge has higher compression pistons but they're still made the same way as the GTE with a high pressure casting method making them as close to forged without being forged (the expansion of the pistons on fully forged would bring excessive oil burning issues during startup and wouldn't be emissions friendly) also distributor ignition systems on ge's are proven reliable up to 800whp
2JZ's are like the fisherman tale. Everytime someone talks about it, it can hold 100hp more with a stock motor. The safe number on these motors used to be 650-700. 750-800 was possible but wouldn't last long. Kids are reading forums and hearing things here and there and suddendly these are 1000whp capable motors stock.
Exactly. On the forums where people actually own cars with this motor, safe limit on stock internals is said to be about 400-500hp. Sure you can do some hoorah dyno runs with 800hp but it wouldn’t hold up for too long like that.
Some people don't understand it doesn't always have to be about maximum power. Good luck getting 1000 whp to reliability hook on the street once the turbo lag ended. Don't get me wrong. I love a proper high horsepower build, but there's a time and place. 400-500 in a Supra sounds like a fun time.
A ton of the reliability also comes with the tune. You could have a fully built block with all supporting mods to run 1000 horse reliably and can detonate it at 500 horse if your tune is shit. As time goes on and people learn more about these motors the tuning and engine management for them is also improving, that's why guys are saying you can run them at 750 reliably as opposed to 650 5 years ago
A thousand hp for street is pretty cool useless. First when Supra’s are drag racing they have to have sizable shoot of NOS to spool the turbo. Without the nod you have a 12’s 1000hp car. Same thing on the street, a lot of turbo lag. I raced a stocking Supra in my stockish Grand National and I destroyed him off the line. He caught me at the end with a trap speed of 131 and 11.67 trap as opposed to my 115 and 11.70 trap.. Supra’s are still bad ass and everyone knows it, but to hear some guy in his garage built a Supra to run 246 in the Texas Mile, I had to call bullshit. He didn’t say it someone else did, his car was built and tuned by Boost Logic. One other myth, I’ve heard that these 2000hp 2jzed are no longer stock, but rather the billet 2jzed.
@@fastboatster Totally agree with people over-talking the motor but let's not under-talk it either. 400-500hp (even whp) is laughably easy on a properly tuned stock 2jz-gte. People are making 700-800 or more at the wheels for 10s of thousands of miles now, myself included.
@@bigjdm5460 yes lol. I got my gs middle of this year was planning on putting an aristo engine. Price was like 2.5k to 3k but I was looking at the market now and it is like 6k lol. Miss me with that I am just gonna go the NA-T route.
@@v8_sami yea i’m ordering a NA VVTI next month. No point of getting a GTR for 6,700.00. Same block same crank, drill in ur oil return into the oil pan, throw in some forged rods and arp studs , Cams , GTE oil pump if needed, front facing intake manifold. No need to pay 7k.
Damn, thanks for making a video like this man. I've been thinking about how to boost my is300 reliably for a while without buying an Aristo motor and I just see alot of people throwing information around that just doesn't make sense. This will definitely help me with getting my build correct.
Non vvti GE pistons and rods, GTE headgasket, ARP headstuds, BC cams, exhaust cam gear, redo seals especially for the crank, other than that you should be good to boost the engine. If you have an automatic is300 you should be good over 350 ft/lbs or torque, but manual you should try your best to keep it under 350 ft/lbs since the w55 transmission is not that strong.
@@CardsNSleevesTCG Are the non-Vvti GE pistons and rods different from the VVTI? If you’re gonna do a piston and rod swap wouldn’t it be worth it to just go for completely aftermarket stuff?
@@Chevsilverado non vvti has same rods different piston from gte apparently and vvti has thinner weaker rods and different heads to the gte to accomodate n/a compression. And after market vs used piston n rod is dependant on price
Never saw it man, I just work primarily on JZs at my shop and I compete in my Supra in FD and I have been asked over and over to do a video like this so I just did one real quick.
I was going to build the engine so I decided it to go with 2JZGE VVTI because it was cheaper and I it has what I wanted it which it was the Block, crank and VVTI HEADS.... if you want decent power with unopened engine then go with the GTE engine but for me, the best option was the GE VVTI... Great Video man 👍🏻
I never get tired hearing about these engines. I own 2 of them (GE VVT-i & GTE VVT-i). The GTE VVT-i is being refreshed, getting a single turbo, after market wiring harness, AEM Infinity 6, etc, and is going into an 1991 MA70.
Everything I've known about all 4 are spot on. This is a great video for 2j newbies for sure. The ge vvti seems to be the best way to start a big build which is thw route I went. Bc rods and cp pistons.
2jz ge vvti is the most sensible platform to start with when building a high hp, single turbo set up. Already has coil on plug. Add a set of forged rods and there ya go(more or less lol). Also the 2jz ge has the best flowing head of all the jz family
The non VVTI GE has the best flowing head. At least unless you're going 1.5 JZ build with the head from the 1JZGTE. Also the non VVTI is non interference, he got it mixed up with the GTE non VVTI which is interference due to the compression ratio. Putting in 272 cams turns the non VVTI GE into an interference but it isn't from the factory.
@@modelotime3608yea just depends on your situation. At the end of the day time Is money I rather just turbo a GE non vvti and call it a day or buy a GTE and overnight swap it. vs waiting months from the machine shop and it always gets more expensive the more down time you have lol😂. Cause if you’re like me you’ll keep ordering parts and never finish the build. But if your ultimate goal is HP and no time frame VVTI GE all the way .
Thanks for this info! Can’t wait for the GE-T guide! Can you make a video about putting a 1JZ top on a 2JZ-GE bottom end and add a turbo using E85 stand alone and fuel system upgrade making a 1.5J ? This guy is trying to sell me on that this can be done and make power reliable for less than a standard 1J or 2J set up.
Keep the ge head. Flows better than the 1j head! The only real reason to do a 1.5 jz is if you have a blown 1j and you swap the bottom end over to get a good motor. You can delete the distributor and get new intake and exhaust manifolds for a ge and you’ll have a really stout and capable engine!
Hey Dan, thanks for the rad vid, I wonna do a 2JZ swap on my Datsun GX coupe, but where im from (South Africa) GTE prices are ridiculas (R65000) and GE prices are reasonable (R10000-16000) Anyway thanx for explaining the difference between VVTI and non-VVTI. I wonna do a non-VVTI build with a fat single turbo on pushing about 800hp in a car that weighs less than a ton😅😅😅
This video was awesome guys! I’m thinking about putting a JZ into my G35, but you guys are right about the turbo vvti are really expensive now. Hopefully you guys can put a budget NA-T together and cost to build. Thanks guys.
non vvti 1jzge has thick rods too. I only happen to know because i watched a russian guy on youtube pull one apart. Turboing 1jzge's seem to be a russian thing
Coming from the Supra scene, it's great to see someone dispelling the myths and looking for ways to get more people into the 2j game. I love the details. 😁
3:20 I made 831rwhp on a dyno dynamics at 29.3psi on a mix of BP98 and toluene back in 2010 on stock GTE non-VVTI short motor, just BC 280°/11.48mm cams, shimless buckets, Ferrea dual springs locks and Ti retainers, L19 studs, Hypertune big port plenum with 102mm throttle body, an ultra basic GT4708 80mm bush bearing turbo, and an Autronic SM4. Would've loved to have seen what it would make on E85 on 45psi with a built motor and one of the new G series Garretts but life intervened and I sold it all a few years ago.
Aleph Null yes but he’s partly wrong... the vvti ge head is better, but the non vvti bottom end is much better. He said they’re limited to 450 or so hp but there are a ton of people pushing 500-600 reliably.... he was going on about oil squirters being the saving grace of the gte’s, when in reality most people delete them bc they lower oil pressure.... the ge non vvti literally just needs the distributor deleted then it’s good for 500+ easily
could you possibly do a turbo build with the 2JZGE Non-VVTI too in the future? I have sc300 and would like to do a nat build but have no idea where to start
Definitely a good video for those who want to learn about the legend 2j and for those planning to build one now they have a better idea of what route to take or how they might want to do it
can u help out?! i have "toyota brevis" it's got 2jz non turbo with vvti as i know.. before i will put turbo on it can u tell me wich manual gearbox will fit on it without welding or changin too much? and wich cars come with manual gearbox that can be fitted on this engine?
Can you do a video of differences between 1jzgte nonvvti---> 1jzGE nonvvti Also the 1j vvti turbo and non turbo variant. Like exhaust mani bolt pattern/ intake mani bolt pattern, rod differences. As far as I have researched the 1j non vvti turbo and non turbo variants both have the forged rods.
Jz is good but the w58 gearbox (manual, mated with non turbo jz) is absolutely horrible. So you have to get either a v161 or r154 gearbox. So keep that in mind
Love this video! You explained various things I was completely unaware of, and it’s always nice receiving knowledge from someone who’s very knowledgeable. Great video 😎
Firstly, well done with these edits! Looking fresh af! Also, just to clarify cause I didn't hear you mention.. Aren't the GTE-Vvti rods and cams smaller than the non-Vvti motors? I heard that they're safely tuneable up to around 550bhp on stock internals and will need upgrades for more. The GTE-Non VVti I'm aware can make up to 7-800bhp safely.. I've heard so many different stories about them and hearing what you've got to say would make me more confident in pushing it.
Dude this is awesome! I'm currently building a NA-T 2jzge for my mk3 supra but I've been trying to find solid info on what I need. Cant wait for more videos on this!
That's a pretty insane project. I can only dream about throwing a 2JZ in my MK3 with the insane prices those engines are at now. At least my 7M-GE sounds good...
@@AngySumo Holy hell you got some wicked deal. Just look at those prices on Ebay. I would never attempt a swap myself so I assume the bill would be around $10K. Maybe someday, but it's crazy money when the desirable 2JZs go for $7.5-8K. I'd be more than ok with 400, but damn man 800HP in an MK3 would be completely bonkers lol.
@@AngySumo I bought my 88' auto targa 7M-GE for $8K this year, 115K miles. I've already put almost $10K into it just in converting A/C, fixing power steering hoses, all the fluids, custom fiberglass quarter window/rear hatch shade trim, and custom LEDs all around. I feel your pain and it's STILL a slow car lol.
@@bryceheppler7181 Big turbo is the way to go for the K24, highly recommended getting one if you want to keep up/outrun v8s and maybe some bolt on v8s.
I can totally agree with the crazy price not being worth it. I was looking at buying the 2jz-gte vvti for about $2,500 around mid 2019, and now they're $5,500-$6,000. So I just went ahead and bought my 2000 Lexus GS300 with the 2jz-ge vvti and 220,000 miles for $3,800. Very clean interior, minimal wear on body panels (no big dents or rust), nothing wrong with it except for the very common "replace the charcoal canister" for the EVAP system, but that's a $200 part that's good for about 150,000-200,000 miles. Everything else is getting replaced anyway; suspension, wheels and hubs, transmission, fuel rail/lines, brakes/rotors/lines and rebuilding the bottom end of the block for some strength. Then its off to the ECU and NA-T babyyyyy!! Not bad for a $4,000 starting point, and it looks just as good today as anything out there. Except for the built in tape deck and cd player in the glove box, that needs an update too lol. My 1990 Mk3 Supra (7m-gte) on the other hand...that looks like its from 1990...we'll just leave it at that lol. That's a whole other bag of worms that I haven't cracked open, but again not a bad platform for a $2,500 start point.
As expected, a bit misinformed regarding the GE motor. 1st. All non vvti GE motors are non interference. 2nd. All 2JZGTE's and 2JZGE's have cast pistons. Non vvti GE pistons are just as strong as GTE pistons and will handle just about the same horsepower even with stock compression if running E85. However GTE pistons will perform a bit better on prolonged pulls because of the added coatings and when in a GTE block, the added oil cooling. 3rd. The first run of vvti 2JZGE's for the american market had the thicker rods, but good luck trying to find one now. 4th. If the price is right get GE non vvti. Since you should refresh the motor anyway, you can easily convert to the vvti oil pump, water pump and crank trigger neded to go distributorless without any additional cost over replaceing the non vvti parts, excluding senaors. And you can stay with the stock bottom end parts up 800 whp on e85. 5th. There is more 😂
This video is hard to watch because of the mistakes that he is making talking about these motors, the non vvti ge is not an interfering motor....and it’s 10:1 compression. Had to stop when he said this because he obviously not to inclined at least he knew how many main caps there are smh
LORD OF THE RiMS no and idk why he makes a big deal about them, they are only there for longevity purposes, when building a high horsepower motor they are blocked off because having excess oil on the rotating assembly actually can seep horsepower because it is encountering more resistance, that is why things like windage trays exist they scrape oil off of the crank to make the rotating assembly encounter the least resistance possible, blocking off the oil squirters also raises oil pressure which is good for high rev applications which most high horsepower builds are
@@lordoftherims436 Somewhat, they are good to have for extra oil protection/cooling but its not the end all be all that this video makes them sound like. The stock connecting rods on both GTE's and GE's already have an integrated oil jet at the base of the rod that shoots oil at both the piston and cylinder walls for cooling.
I heard from someone that w the GE VVT-I that you can slap a 1jz head on and I think dude in the video said even a 2jz head will bolt right up too this motor I'm just trying too find out if there is any truth too this and how difficult this would be.
Subscribed! And looking forward to the other vidoes! I have a low mileage Lexus IS300 Sportcross Wagon which I plan to Turbo one day. Definitely interested in what parts you can offer too!
I shall be awaiting the NA-T build. Me and my homie just bought a GE vvti for a ~500hp drift build. A basic conversion kit would be dope asf if y'all are into that. Cheers
Adding on to what Dan said anther difference between the VVTI GTE and non VVTI GTE the US had 550cc injectors a slightly more aggressive exhaust cam and a steel impeller vs our little 440ccs and weak ceramic impellers. Which actually brings up a question if anyone has an answer. What's the point of doing the GT28 conversion on the US spec when the OEM turbos can already take 20psi on pump? I've always wondered that. 🤔
This vid is next level from all angles
1 - he’s a 2jz encyclopaedia
2 - dudes got a sick mullet
3 - wears sliders in the shop
Love this quality 👏🏼👏🏼
Tj Hunt I agree 🧐
Thanks Bud, we are working on improvements
Spot onn broo definitely doing a little piston swap and port when i go turbo its gona be beautiful ☄️😍😍
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TJ!!!! Whats up bro!!!
Toyota shoukd just copy a page off GM like they do on Ls motor sell the 2jz crate engine.
Titan Motorsport
Toyota is the biggest auto manufacturer in the world. Theres too much money in building Camrys and Corollas to care about supporting their old stuff. Can't even get MR2 stuff from Toyota anymore which is why i got into BMW's instead. Complete horseshit. You cant new OEM parts, which is why people pay 5x the price on Ebay for a used headlight, meanwhile you can buy any part you want for a 100+ year old Mercedes.
Placeholder Name I feel on that because in Japan they don’t keep there cars that old due to there taxes and reg fees the older the car more expensive it gets. It’s slowly changing with Toyota selling some parts for the A70/A80 Supra’s and Mazda with the NA MX5 and Nissan with R32 GTR.
@@iheartgs400 What can you get for the Supra MK4 now? My mate just bought a Toyota Soarer which is basically a Lexus SC300 on the Supra platform but with a 1JZ GTE motor and hes having problems finding stock Toyota parts for maintenance.
you can purchase 2jz short and long blocks from toyota
Didnt think i would be learning about 2JZs at 2am from Joe Dirt
Lol 😂
😂😂😂😂😂 damn good lesson too
It's only 1am where I'm at!
@@RADIndustries Hey bud seen your TH-cam video about the different 2jz’s
I want a 2jzgte vvti. Not at $6k. Why did the prices shoot up? Also should I wait or save or go a different route? Do you think the price will drop if so when?
@@alejandrocervantes7123 supply and demand
supply dwindling away and demand is sky high
the cars they were coming out of are becoming legal for importation which means prices on the cars have gone up aswell
aswell as the engines and cars have been exported out of japan to all over the world
so your best bet is to get a ge vvti and build it
Just bought a 03 IS300 with the VVTI, glad someone made a new and super detailed video. Looking forward to the GE teardown and build !
so what car has the best engine for me to take it out?
@@gabedaxe477 MKIV supra obviously, but even a completely wrecked one is still far too valuable to even both with.
It's all about MK3 supra engine swaps. Sadly i'll have to be content with my 7M-GE for a long time, but I do love the way it sounds.
helping us get into a jz for cheap...thank you Dan, the world needs more ppl like you
You should do that 2jz ge vvti rebuild. I have an 02 is300 and would like to make more power with it. Very informative, learned a lot about the differences in under 15 min.
I’ll do the rebuild and upgrade video soon
I have one too AAAHHH
recently imported a supra with a non-vvti...looking for ways to rebuild it and turbo the car properly!
Subscribed to learn more about 2JZ and see the build process!
Very very knowledgeable video bud! I love how you went into detail and explained everything between them. I love learning new things about stuff. You should seriously consider doing more videos like this explaining the differences and the pro’s/con’s of all these different parts and what not. A lot of people can seriously learn a lot from you man. Again, super awsome video buddy!! I also love the quality of this video!! Keep up all your hard work dan!! You are most definitely one of the top 5 best youtuber’s buddy.
Stay safe out there man!!
Just bought a 2jz ge for my 240, excited to build it, and follow your build. Definitely gonna be buying some RAD industries parts for it!
Sounds good dude
Only here because I’m picking up a gs300 with vvti for 1k this week. Definitely a series I’ll be checking out
From what i'm aware the 2jz-ge has higher compression pistons but they're still made the same way as the GTE with a high pressure casting method making them as close to forged without being forged (the expansion of the pistons on fully forged would bring excessive oil burning issues during startup and wouldn't be emissions friendly) also distributor ignition systems on ge's are proven reliable up to 800whp
I think the rods are slightly thinner on the GE though.
@@Chevsilverado
They’re not. Only the NA VVTi are thinner.
Great video! Only small mistake is the 2JZ-GE (non VVT-I) is actually non interference. Only the 2JZ-GE VVT-I is interference.
Unless you change the head gasket and such right?
Hey, Pure Function. Have you seen this one?
th-cam.com/video/y-9Wr4G2Zas/w-d-xo.html
By interference you mean the valves hitting the piston?
@@benitamanzanarez3520 yes
Pure Function is correct. Non-interferance.
Got to say, you are one of my favourite youtuber, down to earth, good content and quality 2JZ info, tips and tricks, wish you all the best!
This is a great addition to the channel. Looking forward to many endless episodes!
Thanks man
2JZ's are like the fisherman tale. Everytime someone talks about it, it can hold 100hp more with a stock motor. The safe number on these motors used to be 650-700. 750-800 was possible but wouldn't last long. Kids are reading forums and hearing things here and there and suddendly these are 1000whp capable motors stock.
Exactly. On the forums where people actually own cars with this motor, safe limit on stock internals is said to be about 400-500hp. Sure you can do some hoorah dyno runs with 800hp but it wouldn’t hold up for too long like that.
Some people don't understand it doesn't always have to be about maximum power. Good luck getting 1000 whp to reliability hook on the street once the turbo lag ended.
Don't get me wrong. I love a proper high horsepower build, but there's a time and place. 400-500 in a Supra sounds like a fun time.
A ton of the reliability also comes with the tune. You could have a fully built block with all supporting mods to run 1000 horse reliably and can detonate it at 500 horse if your tune is shit. As time goes on and people learn more about these motors the tuning and engine management for them is also improving, that's why guys are saying you can run them at 750 reliably as opposed to 650 5 years ago
A thousand hp for street is pretty cool useless. First when Supra’s are drag racing they have to have sizable shoot of NOS to spool the turbo. Without the nod you have a 12’s 1000hp car. Same thing on the street, a lot of turbo lag. I raced a stocking Supra in my stockish Grand National and I destroyed him off the line. He caught me at the end with a trap speed of 131 and 11.67 trap as opposed to my 115 and 11.70 trap.. Supra’s are still bad ass and everyone knows it, but to hear some guy in his garage built a Supra to run 246 in the Texas Mile, I had to call bullshit. He didn’t say it someone else did, his car was built and tuned by Boost Logic. One other myth, I’ve heard that these 2000hp 2jzed are no longer stock, but rather the billet 2jzed.
@@fastboatster Totally agree with people over-talking the motor but let's not under-talk it either. 400-500hp (even whp) is laughably easy on a properly tuned stock 2jz-gte. People are making 700-800 or more at the wheels for 10s of thousands of miles now, myself included.
I’m so happy I got my 2jzgte last year price is outrageous! Love the videos
Yeah man !!! they went to another galaxy in prize !!!! LOL !!!
Jonathan Rodriguez people actually paying these prices?
@@bigjdm5460 yes lol. I got my gs middle of this year was planning on putting an aristo engine. Price was like 2.5k to 3k but I was looking at the market now and it is like 6k lol. Miss me with that I am just gonna go the NA-T route.
@@v8_sami yea i’m ordering a NA VVTI next month. No point of getting a GTR for 6,700.00. Same block same crank, drill in ur oil return into the oil pan, throw in some forged rods and arp studs , Cams , GTE oil pump if needed, front facing intake manifold. No need to pay 7k.
I decided to just buy a whole Aristo haha
Damn, thanks for making a video like this man. I've been thinking about how to boost my is300 reliably for a while without buying an Aristo motor and I just see alot of people throwing information around that just doesn't make sense. This will definitely help me with getting my build correct.
Non vvti GE pistons and rods, GTE headgasket, ARP headstuds, BC cams, exhaust cam gear, redo seals especially for the crank, other than that you should be good to boost the engine. If you have an automatic is300 you should be good over 350 ft/lbs or torque, but manual you should try your best to keep it under 350 ft/lbs since the w55 transmission is not that strong.
@@CardsNSleevesTCG Are the non-Vvti GE pistons and rods different from the VVTI? If you’re gonna do a piston and rod swap wouldn’t it be worth it to just go for completely aftermarket stuff?
@@Chevsilverado non vvti has same rods different piston from gte apparently and vvti has thinner weaker rods and different heads to the gte to accomodate n/a compression.
And after market vs used piston n rod is dependant on price
"the skid factory" did a really good review on the differences between the 1jz Vs 2jz 👍
Never saw it man, I just work primarily on JZs at my shop and I compete in my Supra in FD and I have been asked over and over to do a video like this so I just did one real quick.
This series is VERY necessary. Stoked!
I was going to build the engine so I decided it to go with 2JZGE VVTI because it was cheaper and I it has what I wanted it which it was the Block, crank and VVTI HEADS.... if you want decent power with unopened engine then go with the GTE engine but for me, the best option was the GE VVTI... Great Video man 👍🏻
Any professional explaining something in flipflops is top tier professional! 👌🏾
I never get tired hearing about these engines. I own 2 of them (GE VVT-i & GTE VVT-i). The GTE VVT-i is being refreshed, getting a single turbo, after market wiring harness, AEM Infinity 6, etc, and is going into an 1991 MA70.
Nice dude, thanks
@@RADIndustries Indeed my man. Thank you for the righteous RADness.
Every video on cars should be like this period.
Everything I've known about all 4 are spot on. This is a great video for 2j newbies for sure. The ge vvti seems to be the best way to start a big build which is thw route I went. Bc rods and cp pistons.
So much knowledge. Great video. And wow those RAD Industries parts looks like 2j jewelry. Nice work Dan.
2jz ge vvti is the most sensible platform to start with when building a high hp, single turbo set up. Already has coil on plug. Add a set of forged rods and there ya go(more or less lol). Also the 2jz ge has the best flowing head of all the jz family
vvti na, as it sits is the worst of the variants because of the stock components for building power. they are all reliable tho
The non VVTI GE has the best flowing head. At least unless you're going 1.5 JZ build with the head from the 1JZGTE. Also the non VVTI is non interference, he got it mixed up with the GTE non VVTI which is interference due to the compression ratio. Putting in 272 cams turns the non VVTI GE into an interference but it isn't from the factory.
@@modelotime3608yea just depends on your situation. At the end of the day time Is money I rather just turbo a GE non vvti and call it a day or buy a GTE and overnight swap it. vs waiting months from the machine shop and it always gets more expensive the more down time you have lol😂. Cause if you’re like me you’ll keep ordering parts and never finish the build. But if your ultimate goal is HP and no time frame VVTI GE all the way .
Thanks for this info! Can’t wait for the GE-T guide! Can you make a video about putting a 1JZ top on a 2JZ-GE bottom end and add a turbo using E85 stand alone and fuel system upgrade making a 1.5J ? This guy is trying to sell me on that this can be done and make power reliable for less than a standard 1J or 2J set up.
Keep the ge head. Flows better than the 1j head! The only real reason to do a 1.5 jz is if you have a blown 1j and you swap the bottom end over to get a good motor. You can delete the distributor and get new intake and exhaust manifolds for a ge and you’ll have a really stout and capable engine!
Yep
Hey Dan, thanks for the rad vid, I wonna do a 2JZ swap on my Datsun GX coupe, but where im from (South Africa) GTE prices are ridiculas (R65000) and GE prices are reasonable (R10000-16000)
Anyway thanx for explaining the difference between VVTI and non-VVTI. I wonna do a non-VVTI build with a fat single turbo on pushing about 800hp in a car that weighs less than a ton😅😅😅
Dude you're the man! I asked you to make a video about this exactly and you delivered!!!
Yeah Buddy 🙌🏻
This video was awesome guys! I’m thinking about putting a JZ into my G35, but you guys are right about the turbo vvti are really expensive now. Hopefully you guys can put a budget NA-T together and cost to build. Thanks guys.
Dude such good info. I appreciate that you are willing to find different ways to get everyone into their dream 2jz. Rad!
If you can find one
Makes a guy with an is300 think hard, would have been interesting if you also included the 1jzge and gte cuz I'm curious about those too. Thanks Dan
non vvti 1jzge has thick rods too. I only happen to know because i watched a russian guy on youtube pull one apart. Turboing 1jzge's seem to be a russian thing
This is one of the best if not the best video on 2JZ
Thanks Dan!! Definitely helps decide as I start planning my E36 build!
Hopefully it helps you still choose a JZ 😉
@@RADIndustries if only i can find one for a reasonable price!!! As you mentioned in the video, there is no way I am paying 6k for a GTE.
One of the best channels I like the way you explain for people !🙏🙏
Coming from the Supra scene, it's great to see someone dispelling the myths and looking for ways to get more people into the 2j game. I love the details. 😁
You missed one variant, the 2jz-fse, it’s a direct injection 2jz, last version of the engine in 2007
3:20 I made 831rwhp on a dyno dynamics at 29.3psi on a mix of BP98 and toluene back in 2010 on stock GTE non-VVTI short motor, just BC 280°/11.48mm cams, shimless buckets, Ferrea dual springs locks and Ti retainers, L19 studs, Hypertune big port plenum with 102mm throttle body, an ultra basic GT4708 80mm bush bearing turbo, and an Autronic SM4. Would've loved to have seen what it would make on E85 on 45psi with a built motor and one of the new G series Garretts but life intervened and I sold it all a few years ago.
Cool bro
Life just loves to intervene when things are getting good. big ups to that build though, sounded like a monster in the making
I knew everything he said but i still watched it because i love Dan 🤙🏻 keep doing what you do!
Thanks Bud
Basically, buy a non vvti ge as soon as you can before they’re expensive as hell
No a vvti ge he even said
Aleph Null yes but he’s partly wrong... the vvti ge head is better, but the non vvti bottom end is much better. He said they’re limited to 450 or so hp but there are a ton of people pushing 500-600 reliably.... he was going on about oil squirters being the saving grace of the gte’s, when in reality most people delete them bc they lower oil pressure.... the ge non vvti literally just needs the distributor deleted then it’s good for 500+ easily
@@Matt_Lanzer_13 so vvti if you dont mind building the block and non vvti for more of a ready to go set up
Aleph Null correct
Lmao they already are fan boys have ruined the JZ scene
i have a lexus is300 i want to na-t. this is the perfect video. looking forward to the series on the 2jzge vvti
Very rad, this is the exact info I've been wondering since my buddy sold his is300 with a vvti. Thanks, Dan 👊🏻
By far my favorite car and driver in FD. Love this super informative video
Almost expected an Australian accent with the mullet and flip flops
could you possibly do a turbo build with the 2JZGE Non-VVTI too in the future? I have sc300 and would like to do a nat build but have no idea where to start
Definitely a good video for those who want to learn about the legend 2j and for those planning to build one now they have a better idea of what route to take or how they might want to do it
That’s what I’m hoping it can do for those people out there about to build a motor and deciding if they should or shouldn’t
This gets me so excited and more motivation to build my GE block. If you start making parts I’ll absolutely give you my money
Good video, but now another person raising the prices on GE blocks! 😭😭 good thing I kept my blown up GE vvti lol
Lol the more expensive they get the better haha. I have 3 NAs and 2 Gtes in storage
can u help out?!
i have "toyota brevis" it's got 2jz non turbo with vvti as i know..
before i will put turbo on it can u tell me wich manual gearbox will fit on it without welding or changin too much? and wich cars come with manual gearbox that can be fitted on this engine?
I feel like the interference discussion was backwards. Otherwise a very well put together video. If I'm wrong, please do correct me though.
no yea he definitely shouldve started from the slowest to fastest stock
Can you do a video of differences between 1jzgte nonvvti---> 1jzGE nonvvti
Also the 1j vvti turbo and non turbo variant.
Like exhaust mani bolt pattern/ intake mani bolt pattern, rod differences. As far as I have researched the 1j non vvti turbo and non turbo variants both have the forged rods.
I love this video, can you do something similar with 1JZ’s too?
I got one of these engines in my IS300 but sadly I dont know anything. But always good to see these videos anyway.
I'm trying to decide on my next build ls or jz. It depends on the car I guess.
Jz is good but the w58 gearbox (manual, mated with non turbo jz) is absolutely horrible. So you have to get either a v161 or r154 gearbox. So keep that in mind
Buy the most expensive one!!
fuck it, turbo LS in a supra
No hemi? Cummins? Viper v10?
thanks for starting this. i dont see the prices dropping down anything soon unless people stop buying them. way too over priced right now.
Im curious on what are you going to do with the ge vvti, so imma stick around
I’m gonna show you guys soon
Same i have a 99 gs300 been wanting to know if I can get reliable hp or need to get taxed for a 2jzgte
Love this video! You explained various things I was completely unaware of, and it’s always nice receiving knowledge from someone who’s very knowledgeable. Great video 😎
Thanks for watching dude
👍. You should have talked about the 1.5 JZ using the non vvti block
Have been waiting for a video like this for years
I’ve seen non vvti ge unsealed short block hit 950 with built head
Unsealed huh, tell me more.
Great video, only thing missing is car lineup where they came from that'd be dope to see...
Need more of these videos forsure....
Camera quality nuckin futs!
Very good video bro!
One the best supra and jz gurus for the world!
first? says 0 comments. Love learning the ins and outs of different motors
Nice dude 👍🏻
Fantastic video. Thank you for the breakdown, been enjoying the series. Can't wait for the NA-T dive.
You should do the 1JZs.
Firstly, well done with these edits! Looking fresh af!
Also, just to clarify cause I didn't hear you mention.. Aren't the GTE-Vvti rods and cams smaller than the non-Vvti motors? I heard that they're safely tuneable up to around 550bhp on stock internals and will need upgrades for more. The GTE-Non VVti I'm aware can make up to 7-800bhp safely.. I've heard so many different stories about them and hearing what you've got to say would make me more confident in pushing it.
7:43 This dude high asf 😂😂
Spot on Dan. For a short video I felt they were explained relatively well. Just subscribed!
Smart man! Nice he’s almost a doctor in his craft. Those flip flops completely ruin his credibility.
Nice mullet tho!!
Im going to look at a 2jz ge vvti out of a is300 tomorrow. Cant wait for the video on building one for boost if i get it
That background is legit
Very informative keep it up now I get to know there is non vvti versions of this engines 👍🏻
"it just works" yeah todd told us the same thing
2.5k views and zero dislikes, love that for u bro
wait what? the gte's are non interference????? what about the 1jz-gte vvti
Yup, over 800whp on a stock non-interference motor here.
Dude this is awesome! I'm currently building a NA-T 2jzge for my mk3 supra but I've been trying to find solid info on what I need. Cant wait for more videos on this!
That's a pretty insane project. I can only dream about throwing a 2JZ in my MK3 with the insane prices those engines are at now. At least my 7M-GE sounds good...
@@rushnerd I got mine for $80 last year, but now I'm 7k into the engine for an 800hp build, they make a ton of power but man is it expensive lol
@@AngySumo Holy hell you got some wicked deal. Just look at those prices on Ebay.
I would never attempt a swap myself so I assume the bill would be around $10K. Maybe someday, but it's crazy money when the desirable 2JZs go for $7.5-8K.
I'd be more than ok with 400, but damn man 800HP in an MK3 would be completely bonkers lol.
@@rushnerd yeah this was supposed to be a project but man I've gone down the rabbit hole hard haha
@@AngySumo I bought my 88' auto targa 7M-GE for $8K this year, 115K miles. I've already put almost $10K into it just in converting A/C, fixing power steering hoses, all the fluids, custom fiberglass quarter window/rear hatch shade trim, and custom LEDs all around. I feel your pain and it's STILL a slow car lol.
This is for the Honda guys transitioning over to the big boys, 😂 jk
Fr tho we be sick of putting our heart and soul inter our 4 cillinders only to make 400hp
don’t sleep on the K24. You can slap on a big turbo, get 500+ hp, blow up the engine, buy another K24 for a few hundred bucks and do it again.
@@bryceheppler7181 Big turbo is the way to go for the K24, highly recommended getting one if you want to keep up/outrun v8s and maybe some bolt on v8s.
@@AquafalconHD was just teasing the Honda guys. K series one of the baddest 4banger out there for sure.
Good video but wrong about the non vvti GE block in saying it handle as much power as the GTE
Dude, you've smoked one to many
Good informative video now let's hear one on difference of 1JZGTE VS 2JZGTE
dope ass haircut, you rock it
I can totally agree with the crazy price not being worth it. I was looking at buying the 2jz-gte vvti for about $2,500 around mid 2019, and now they're $5,500-$6,000.
So I just went ahead and bought my 2000 Lexus GS300 with the 2jz-ge vvti and 220,000 miles for $3,800. Very clean interior, minimal wear on body panels (no big dents or rust), nothing wrong with it except for the very common "replace the charcoal canister" for the EVAP system, but that's a $200 part that's good for about 150,000-200,000 miles. Everything else is getting replaced anyway; suspension, wheels and hubs, transmission, fuel rail/lines, brakes/rotors/lines and rebuilding the bottom end of the block for some strength. Then its off to the ECU and NA-T babyyyyy!! Not bad for a $4,000 starting point, and it looks just as good today as anything out there. Except for the built in tape deck and cd player in the glove box, that needs an update too lol.
My 1990 Mk3 Supra (7m-gte) on the other hand...that looks like its from 1990...we'll just leave it at that lol. That's a whole other bag of worms that I haven't cracked open, but again not a bad platform for a $2,500 start point.
All VVT-i JZ variants are interference. Non VVT-i are non-interference.
The guy got this one wrong
This right here is the video I needed
2jzge non vvti are 10:1, also as far as my research has done, they're also non interference, vvti's are interference.
Jonathan Gardner yea I’ve got one and I’ve rotated the crank without a timing belt at all and never made contact with the open valves.
@@harrisonpeck130 good to hear I wasn't miss lead, thanks!
You, my friend have earned a subscriber 👍🏻 I learned some valuable stuff and wanna stay tuned for the engine build
As expected, a bit misinformed regarding the GE motor.
1st. All non vvti GE motors are non interference.
2nd. All 2JZGTE's and 2JZGE's have cast pistons. Non vvti GE pistons are just as strong as GTE pistons and will handle just about the same horsepower even with stock compression if running E85. However GTE pistons will perform a bit better on prolonged pulls because of the added coatings and when in a GTE block, the added oil cooling.
3rd. The first run of vvti 2JZGE's for the american market had the thicker rods, but good luck trying to find one now.
4th. If the price is right get GE non vvti. Since you should refresh the motor anyway, you can easily convert to the vvti oil pump, water pump and crank trigger neded to go distributorless without any additional cost over replaceing the non vvti parts, excluding senaors. And you can stay with the stock bottom end parts up 800 whp on e85.
5th. There is more 😂
so would 1998 sc300 would have the thicker rods?? Or are the ge vvti first run was older then that?? Genuinely curious??
@@MrEspnsportsfan wish I could say, I don't remember production dates. This was discussed and confirmed way back when Supraforums was a thing.
There’s hecka info on there and clublexus I just don’t remember off hand
Where’s the GE breakdown and build video that you mentioned?
This video is hard to watch because of the mistakes that he is making talking about these motors, the non vvti ge is not an interfering motor....and it’s 10:1 compression. Had to stop when he said this because he obviously not to inclined at least he knew how many main caps there are smh
Do oil squirters really make that much of a difference?
LORD OF THE RiMS no and idk why he makes a big deal about them, they are only there for longevity purposes, when building a high horsepower motor they are blocked off because having excess oil on the rotating assembly actually can seep horsepower because it is encountering more resistance, that is why things like windage trays exist they scrape oil off of the crank to make the rotating assembly encounter the least resistance possible, blocking off the oil squirters also raises oil pressure which is good for high rev applications which most high horsepower builds are
@@lordoftherims436 Somewhat, they are good to have for extra oil protection/cooling but its not the end all be all that this video makes them sound like. The stock connecting rods on both GTE's and GE's already have an integrated oil jet at the base of the rod that shoots oil at both the piston and cylinder walls for cooling.
@@zXCrackersXz if you were doing an na-t build you would probably go with low compression forged pistons anyway that have more heat resistance
@@zXCrackersXz that oil jet on the rod isn't to cool anything, its to lubricate the piston pins 👍
Hell yeah dude that was rad. Keep up the quality content
This dude sounds like hes asleep.
@Max 💀😂
I heard from someone that w the GE VVT-I that you can slap a 1jz head on and I think dude in the video said even a 2jz head will bolt right up too this motor I'm just trying too find out if there is any truth too this and how difficult this would be.
The non vvti 2jzge is 10:1:1 compression not 10:5:1
Subscribed! And looking forward to the other vidoes! I have a low mileage Lexus IS300 Sportcross Wagon which I plan to Turbo one day. Definitely interested in what parts you can offer too!
Don't want to be nitpicky but there wasn't much energy in this video felt like a high school presentation.
Then don't watch it lol
I shall be awaiting the NA-T build. Me and my homie just bought a GE vvti for a ~500hp drift build. A basic conversion kit would be dope asf if y'all are into that. Cheers
Thanks for the info, I have a built 2jz GE vvti in my xj Cherokee
Adding on to what Dan said anther difference between the VVTI GTE and non VVTI GTE the US had 550cc injectors a slightly more aggressive exhaust cam and a steel impeller vs our little 440ccs and weak ceramic impellers. Which actually brings up a question if anyone has an answer. What's the point of doing the GT28 conversion on the US spec when the OEM turbos can already take 20psi on pump? I've always wondered that. 🤔