Can I Beat Pokemon Gold with ONLY Ditto? 🔴 Pokemon Challenges ► NO ITEMS IN BATTLE
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In this video I take you along my ridiculous Pokemon Gold Challenge Journey through the world of Johto in Generation 2 as I attempt to beat the entire game with a single Ditto and without using Items in Battle! Am I able to do it? Only one way to find out!
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Hey! Yeah, this is a reupload. Look I'm just gonna assume you've watched the end of the video already. If you haven't, then you should! This comment won't make sense till you do.
Super short version of what happened is that I used save states to get that final Lance fight. I thought I disclosed it, but I didn't. I said that I was going for crits and thunder wave misses, but I never actually specified that I was going for those WITH save states. And like, it would have been obvious I used save states if not for how I was talking about how many failed legit attempts I had before that against each Pokemon. It made it seem like THIS fight was one of those legit attempts, and not the hypothetical perfect battle. But the moment I finished the battle and finished writing it all down, it was like 3am and I just put down work. It wasn't until I uploaded the videos and stared reading comments of people saying I got super lucky before I realised, people think I did that for real. I thought I made it clear that I was showing you what luck would be required to get there, and the exasperation was with how long it took me to even make that final battle. THAT is what took 128 tries, the save stated fight! I didn't mean to imply that I did the entire fight in one go and got that tie after 128 tries. I could probably have done that for a lifetime and never gotten it! But it's 100% my fault for not catching my mistake sooner.
What you're hearing at the end of the video is me sitting down in front of my mic about an hour after it really fully sunk in that I lied. It really all was just adlibbed, I didn't have anything written down, I just wanted you to hear what I was thinking. I was pacing up and down the hall in my house trying to calm myself down, but no matter what say I looked at it, I totally lied. In the moment that I was doing it, I wasn't thinking about that. I was just thinking about getting work done in time so I wouldn't be worrying about it during Canadian Thanksgiving with my mum. I was thinking about the comments that always tell me that I didn't try hard enough or for long enough if I don't win, and I KNOW that I shouldn't let those get to me. But that's why I did the save state fight, so you'd have something extra cool at the end to watch, and I'm sure it would have been fine if I just SAID it was with save states, but I forgot to directly say it. I implied, and it wasn't good enough.
Once it sunk in that I lied though, I just felt horrible. I walked around for a while and realised that I just have to tell everyone what I did. I couldn't eat, I couldn't think about anything else, I just felt awful in a way I haven't felt since I was an idiot teenager lying to not get in trouble. I'm 31 years old, It's embarrassing, why am I thinking like that?
I just had to tell you guys and get it off my chest. If you're mad at me, you have every right to be. I lied to you. It wasn't a mistake like dropping a glass or leaving a door unlocked. This was a bad DECISION. I made that decision without thinking about anything beyond speeding up work, like I'm just problem solving a battle. At no point did I stop and think "Hey wait, I have to TELL people that I'm save stating in battle though or it's a lie". That didn't sink into my thick skull until I uploaded the video, heard my words back, and realised I absolutely lied.
I already told everyone on Twitter and literally every tweet was positive and supportive, and I appreciate that, but I also wanna say you've got every right to be mad at me. Maybe not on a personal level, but I did lie to you and I am sorry. Some people on Twitter said that I "did nothing wrong", and I just wanna shut that down right now. If that's your opinion then that's your opinion, but I personally believe it was wrong of me to lie. I could have just failed the challenge earlier or disclosed I was using save states for the insane fight. I guess I tried to disclose it, but I did a pretty awful job. Either way would have been perfectly fine. Instead I worked for an entire day on that battle, hardly got to charizard, and remembered all the people who tell me that I didn't try hard enough if I don't win. I didn't want to not put my full effort forward, and my stupid solution was to cut corners, as if that helps anything.
I tried not to disappoint you, and I gave you a real reason to be disappointed in me. Legit, I'm sorry.
MDB, don't worry about it. I'm not mad or dissapointed in you in the slightest, and I don't want you beating yourself up over this. Screw the people who said you didn't try hard enough, I think you certainly tried your best on every front with a challenge like this one. Just don't take those opinions to heart and do things YOUR way.
It’s no problem at ALL. It’s totally understandable that you used save states for such an intense fight. None of us are mad at you. We completely understand. Don’t be so hard on yourself! We all have your back no matter what.
It's honestly okay
Honestly don’t worry about it since I’m all honesty I don’t feel like I was lied to at all, to me all it felt like what you did tell us that you save stated so you could save yourself time, you did nothing wrong so don’t worry
Don't worry MDB, it is understandable. The issue with some of these videos is that some people that has not even tried anything of this is going to talk like total experts about the subject. And if some people get dissapointed it is because of they trying to get a "perfect video" or an explanation about why things happen. There are other channels where that people can go and find what they are looking for. Most of us are here because of how do you handle the issues, and this is part of it. I'll be waiting for your next video.
Positive take-away from this: it could set a precedent that if you think something actually is impossible, using save-states could be the last resort to prove possibility or not, but admitted in script and shown as a theoretical best odds battle.
basically a variaton of the double-team rule. Truth be told I don't even mind save-states used like this in the orignal run. I don't really see it as undermining the merit of a run.
Logical AF
"Can I beat the challenge?"
"Technically yes but not without a shit ton of luck!"
It's kind of a sliding scale of plausibility.
Possibile within a regular run > Possible with optimal gameplay (good IV, EV management) > Technically possible but with very specific things occurring (resetting to get key misses/crits) > In the realm of possibility but the odds of getting it naturally are so low save states are the only reasonable way > Actually 100% no doubt impossible without using major exploits
This is what I was thinking, too. If it's truly just not possible without insane luck, I think it'd be interesting if you took the loss and used save states just to see if it was theoretically possible with a perfect run.
Honestly, most other people would do a challenge like this using save states between pokemon, you just don't because you're stubborn. personally I think it's fine to do, this video shows it didnt help to win the chanllenge, it just made it faster to see how far into the fight you could make it. It's nice that you disclosed it, but it's fine, I'm certainly not going to stop watching because of it. Still a great video!
hey man dont be too hard on yourself. sure some people might not like it but still theres gonna be a lot more that are fine with it. we want to hear about you and your journey through the game its not a big deal if you use save states and other stuff like that cause at the end of the day we enjoy listening to you and watching your content
I was feeling suspicious of that luck on the original vid, and I was expecting the worst, but you came through and actually admitted to it. We all make mistakes, that's what makes us human after all, but admitting to them and trying to not make them again is what will make us be better people in life, and you've always been a great person by the way that you are.
I've seen nasty cheaters of all kinds on all sorts of gaming and speedrunning communities, but you're not one of them, cuz this is not a way a cheater would react, you just took a shortcut to get this over with and be with your family, and I fully trust in your ability to not do anything like this in the future.
Will be waiting on that Barboach run, sounds like an interesting run to do (Erika might be an absolute nightmare tho)
Honestly, I think the save states provide proof of just how difficult a ditto challenge is. And that was just with Lance. There's no way a single ditto could beat Red, right?
Dude. It's just save states XD
You are making awesome content, and I thought you always use those XD
MDB: I did something bad…
Me: ???
MDB: I used save states.
Me: more power to you. it still took you two weeks and even with all crits the run ended with a loss. so honestly we would rather you use tools or give yourself infinite potions and ethers for runs like this where the time spent of having to run to pkmn centers. Especially when videos double your workload and it affects your weekly upload schedule.
My disappointment is greater than I can measure. I hope you can see my sarcasm through text. You’re almost like a TV program for me so keep up the shows I almost don’t even care what they are more Pokémon for me if you can.
MDB being so emotional over 'lying' is actually the sweetest thing. Talk about a cinnamon roll that acts like a cinnamon roll. Genuinely not a big deal at all, but he's such a sweetheart he can't let himself get away with it. Gotta love the guy
The first Ditto video transformed into a re-uploaded Ditto video
I was so confused. I just watched this yesterday.
Lol it really did huh fully circle
Because MDB was struggling.
@@pkmntrainermark8881 He took recoil 😭
Honestly, I hardly care that the end fight wasn't completely legit. Don't be afraid to fail a challenge because the point is not to win, that's a nice bonus. It's really to see how far you can get.
I feel like if you get to a point where you feel as if there is no way to win, say you failed and put in a few more attempts without the rules to see if you could have won without being handicapped.
I wouldn't be to worried about what happened, I bet people will take it in stride and say, "Cool, he won't do it again". Anyway, looking forward to the next challenge. Take it easy, man.
After listening to the afterword I gotta say: You are too pure for this world, MDB.
I can't speak for the rest of your fans, but personally, I don't care that you did what you did. It sucks to hear that it tore you up so much, but I want you to know that it's fine. You're fine. It's barely an issue. I come here to watch your silly challenge videos. I don't care if you win or lose or even how you do it. As long as you are *having fun* doing it. That's the important bit.
If this is what you felt you had to do to feel better, then I'm glad you did it. Emotions are confusing. They don't make sense.
MDB proud that you try to follow the rules but I agree here. It's not about the competitive features of this but just to see if it can be done we all got lives to live but it's an invaluable lesson to face the truth. Take care of yourself and your family and we will look forward to your next vid.
It actually makes me feel bad that he interprets making a mistake as lying and having some huge moral failing. He didn't even realize at the time that he forgot or didn't think to disclose that he used save states between Pokemon. And the important thing is that he quickly set out to fix it. We're human, we make mistakes. And it's how we work to rectify those mistakes that matters.
It's not like he, hypothetically, reviewed a prototype custom GPU water cooling block using an incompatible GPU, called the product crap, refused to retest it properly when called out, and then auctioned it off to potential competitors at a charity event even after having agreed to send it back to the manufacturer. And then doubled down until there was an uproar throughout the tech community, and continued to lie about how things happened. Hypothetically. It would be wild if that happened somewhere on TH-cam haha.
Don’t beat yourself up about it. Ditto is one of the hardest Pokémon to try and solo challenge with. Think of it more of an experiment. “If everything went PERFECTLY could Ditto still do it?” The answer was no and that’s good enough. It was a great attempt and you should be proud for attempting it
++ - no need to beat yourself up over this, it was good fun to watch either way.
Yeah, agreed. "Is this humanly possible? Yes. Would it take months, with a mechanically perfect build? Yes. Am I gonna do that? No. Do you want to see some tool-assisted catharsis of seeing what a perfect luck situation would be like? Buckle up!"
Oh, wait. This would be the perfect excuse to pull out the dancing skeletons, and show us what the power of Lent Hill would do for runs.
No need to try. Just calculate ditto lv100 max HP, is it 4x the health of the enemies combined? No, ok it can't do it then just from recoil
Meh pikasprey did it
MDB has too good of a morale compass, i was fully expecting some health update and was kimda scared, but the phrase you're looking for is you're "cutting corners" and thats completely fine
Agreed, I was so relieved when it was just save states. You're good MDB
Mah Dry Bread, don't worry about it, I really don't mind the fact you used save states. This was a really hard challenge, and again, I really don't judge you over this entire thing :( Don't beat yourself up too hard over it! I'll always enjoy your videos no matter how you decide to go about them!
Facts, to be honest I saw the re-upload made me wonder if he actually did it and edited it in. But seriously, it's fine that you had to save scum that fight. In grand scheme, it's a small detail in a great video.
I always thought he used Save States anyhow, just so he wouldn’t have to reset the game whenever he lost a major battle, he’d just reload the save state and go grind for an hour or two before reattempting the fight
@@kirbykraftgames YEah in all honesty the fact eh never used them before makes the challenges sooooo much harder in my opinion.
What's a save state exactly
Man I'm so much more disappointed that this turned into a struggle run but if that's what it takes, that's what it takes. I totally get the lying thing - makes me feel icky when I do it no matter how small. Would love to see ditto in a gen with the Impostor ability, if that's even possible. Proud of you for this, though
Yeah, pretty much any Ditto run is likely to devolve into struggling since most story trainers lead off with their weakest Pokemon, and it's not like you can overlevel (aside from getting more health, which will help up to a point), use items, or even make a clever moveset. Gen 2 is especially bad about awful lead Pokemon.
Man, the point of these challenges is to see if YOU can do it, not if its not possible, not to brute force it until its done and stress yourself out forever, youre among my favorite youtubers and an impossible challenge for you is to disappoint us by caring about your mental health, youre amazing and i imagine we could stand to tell you that more often
There was a benefit to the savestates. We got to see that it was basically impossible. I'd prefer to have it tested and found out for sure that it was basically impossible.
Yeah. I just should have SAID that it was with save states. Such a stupid decision.
@@MahDryBread It's not like you were trying to hide it for malicious gains though. You told us now and as most comments point out, it's all good.
@@denkou6986exactly. And even if MDB was trying to hide it initially, it was more likely because of the dedication to making videos entertaining and enjoyable and guilt of getting a challenge out late (with a potentially unsatisfying ending) than trying to deceive the fanbase and convince us to expect anything other than extreme luck for a Ditto run.
Keep prioritising fun and honesty, especially if it beats you up so much MDB
Well here's the thing I think savestates are OK to see if it's possible at all but shouldn't be used for a attempt. Use it for scouting
Honestly man… you helped me through some rough times in the past, you kept my mind off of everything in my life that was going wrong. I’m now happily married and extremely happy. I thank creators like you and others in the community that put out this amazing content. this was an amazing freaking video, you did a DITTO run which is by itself amazing. I don’t believe for one second any of us could have got anywhere close to your capabilities in this run. Keep it up man. we all love ya!
For those wondering why this was reuploaded, zoom about 34 minutes in (roughly 34:18).
MDB, your honesty is admirable. Honestly, didn’t even phase me. Idrc either. But some people do.
I really admire that despite no one even really noticing, you chose to admit your fault. I think this is best case scenario. Other TH-camrs should take example.
I may be, some random person on the internet, but you’ve earned a great deal of respect from me.
If people stop watching you over *this*? They aren’t worth the time caring about.
AGREED he went out of his way to admit something so minor other youtubers need to learn to just admit when they are wrong even when no one noticed or even cared but sadly I don't see that happening but small change can Lead to big stuff
Poor MDB you sound so upset in the ending. I really dont think it was a big deal to me but it obviously was to you, I hope getting it out there helps you feel better.
Its okay MDB, you showed some Courage here. 💪🏻
I appreciate the truthfulness. Your honesty and genuine personality is what keeps me watching every week, regardless of the game. It’s hard for me to believe you’d apologize over something that the vast majority of other TH-camrs wouldn’t bat an eye at, but that’s exactly why I watch. Genuine. Appreciate you and all the content you put out man!
The reason I watch these is because it's fun. I don't care if you save state or use rare candies, the challenges you do are rough and you doing things to make quality of life changes isn't a big deal.
Honestly, its fine
Read the comment and i dont see a problem with anything there
Took me a while to realise you the lie wasnt going to thanksgiving
Besides, the video is if *you* can beat the challenge, not if it *can* be beat
And you proved that the hand you had at the end literally could not
Hell, I didnt realize you didnt already use save states, thats so much more time.
This man's integrity is amazing, and I really appreciate the re-upload for clarity and admittance. Keep on being you, MahDryBread :)
MDB, this was DITTO. Ditto! It's entirely fine to have used Save States! It's to see if YOU can do it. Hell, Scott's Thoughts had trouble doing this run and called it impossible at first - and it IS without good luck and a top percentage Ditto. And the super Crit Battle was HILARIOUS.
For those wondering what all these comments are about, please watch to the end. MDB is a really sweet guy and he's too pure for us.
He might even tell you which Fossil he got along the way. He loves you and we love him for it.
Honestly, while it is a shame to know that the cool lucky battle wasn't a real thing (props to you for the brilliant voice acting to make it seem legit), it definitely isn't something that is going to ruin the channel for me.
I've been enjoying these challenges for a long while now, and if anything, credit to you for coming forward, admitting what you did and knowing what you did was wrong. That speaks volumes about your morals as a person which is great!
Can't help but also love how you think something like this will hurt your channel when there are far bigger offences being committed by other youtubers like Doxxing!
On the topics of save states, in situations like this where the odds were always going to be against you, I don't mind if it is a theoretical "This could be possible with this level of luck", as long as we've known before that it isn't possible on a normal level of luck and playing.
This is where the line of 'can you beat' really then blurs. Sure it may be possible with exceptional luck which in the literal definition completes the challenge for yes, but then there is the realistic level of it being possible, and honesty I don't mind where it goes either way. If not possible in a legit way, it would be nice to know how theoretically possible it is while playing with luck.
Keep up the great content, I know i will definitely still be watching! 👍
I think it only sounded legit because the 128 attempts were real, it was just with save states. It was drawing on something partially real so it sounded real. I'm not really a good actor. Again I didn't really even think about the fact that it was a lie until I uploaded it. My mind was so stuck in work and problem solving how I'm going to finish the video before thanksgiving that I never stopped and thought "oh well I obviously have to disclose this". Short sighted, careless, I don't know what the word for it was. Once it sunk in what I did, it was instant regret.
@@MahDryBreadBuddy, I think you beat yourself up more than anyone else ever will. We love you dude, appreciate the honesty but if this was something that let you have thanksgiving with your family then you have to do it. Family is far more important. Besides, after 128 attempts I think you deserve the ability to speed things along
While i can appreciate you taking responsibility for what you feel as a wrong, in my opinion, i dont feel like using a save state in a run that was already late is a reasonable thing to do. Thank you for letting us know, but the apology is accepted, but in my wyes, you're still the most standup youtuber I am subscribed to.
Thanks for not just saying I'm blameless. Honestly It's hard to read all these comments saying I did nothing wrong. I totally did something wrong.
@MahDryBread TBH ,I don't see it as something ingerently wrong. But i know you see it as that way, and who am I to tell you how you feel is wrong. You are more than forgiven, and I, for one, do not feel betrayed. Your honesty is rare and appreciated, Mr. Stowe.
@@MahDryBreaddude save states in a run where you lose a crap ton of money very early to figuring out a strategy that's going to work is totally not even a problem. Especially when a video is already late. You still have to have a life outside of this LOL do what you need to❤😊
Using save states to reroll the rng is still legit. Every attempt could have been the first one.
You didn't do anything wrong.
It really just goes to show how astronomically hard it is to beat the game with Ditto, a point which you covered really well.
I'm coming back to read the comments, and I feel like people are missing the point. It's not about the save states. It's about not disclosing using them.
@@shaunduzstuffs That makes sense.
@MahDryBread it takes a real man to own his mistakes and come forward. Thank you for your honesty. I love your challenges and your channel. Keep up the amazing work.
Dude it's ok!! I'm glad that you told us and feel better now that you have! But it's completely ok!! Don't worry most of us (or at least the good fans) won't care that you've used save states like this, and we will still trust you 100% in the future don't worry about it!!
Either way most people will come back, your content is still really good and this was something very minor!!
Thank you MdB
I wouldve never known, it wouldve been just another challenge, and id look forward to next weeks.
But now its a reason that i support one of the only REAL creators that are still left on this platform.
All the love MDB youre amazing! Thank you again for coming clean. I forgive you
Bro, you're a good person. Keep doing what you're doing the way you did over the last years. There are a ton of youtubers who do pokemon challenges, but only one mdb
That kind of ending shows a great respect for your audience, too. Thanks, MDB. You're great.
For the hours upon hours of enjoyable content you've provided us all and the hard work you put into this I'm sure no one will hold it against you.
You have nothing to apologise for MDB, your challenges are amazing and one of the things I look forward to each week. I can fully appreciate why this would eat at you and I hope you feel better for getting it off your chest but all the true ones are here for the entertainment you've always provided to us ❤
hey mahdrybread, it is just entertainment, do not push yourself to be perfect. I am here and 422k people are here for you being genuine and funny and relatable, i dont care if u win or not, as u said it is just pokemon. For me personally if u wanna do anything in a run to make it easier, quicker, more profitable just disclose it and move on. For example i was thinking that the video would be more entertaining if u could use ether mid battles to maybe transform to another pokemon except the first one but that would use some sort of cheat code.
For me the advice is focus on entertaining first you arent doing a step by step guide, you are answering weird pokemon challenges we get while showering and are too busy with life to try it, we will all cope. PS If it is work it needs to change a bit, it wasnt always work
MDB best guy 10/10 i wish more youtubers - people in general would be as honest as he is
ditto challenge post hidden ability with the imposter ability would be so much nicer. maybe even 2 dittos
We appreciate the honestly mdb. And I think it’s actually a chance to save some time on your future work! If a fight requires unreasonable luck, show us a save stated fight and let us know it’s save stated. Might be fun to see the best possible outcome in a run that’s stumped you for hours.
At least you should give it a ditto tier :)
Hey MDB, there is no shame is using save states. The fact that you managed to get to level 100… on ditto… using struggle is insanely awesome in and of itself. You tried to the best of your ability and that’s really all that matters. Proud of you and can’t wait to see the rest of your stuff!
I'm really happy to see everyone being so supportive of MDB here talking openly; keep up the great work - I really appreciate your continued transparency and direct approach in your videos and how you talk to your fans. As pretty much everyone else has said in the comments, don't beat yourself - everyone makes mistakes, and you had the character to reupload the video, admit to it, and correct the issue - I really respect that about you. Looking forward to your next video!
First thing, banger video, 10/10 I loved it and it’s one of your best. Secondly, I personally don’t have a problem with you using save states and like, your lie isn’t too big a deal and I hope you’re able to mentally move past this. But I do understand your frustration about the situation and it’ll all be okay.
I have nothing but respect for you; not only for your dedication and stamina for doing these challenges over and over, but for your honesty to admit to doing something you felt was wrong. Truly one of the content creators I can honestly look up to and say ‘this man is a role model, his hard work and honesty are so amazing,”. Please, please! Don’t beat yourself up, because you admitted your mistake and learned from it. You inspired me to try a solo Popplio run and it broke me halfway through, the fact that you’ve made a career out of this says volumes about your work ethic, and it’s inspirational! Very few could do what you do on the level that you do it, so i think that no one should have a problem with this run! After all, we’re all just here to have fun, aren’t we?
I just wanted to say that at least to me it is totally fine to use save states when you already did everything else you could have just use it like the rare candys a tool to prevent you from waiting a lot more time then nessisary but you have to be upfront about when you are using it because i felt a little bit betrayed not by you using it but you not being upfront about it
Dog, dont even worry about it. Even using save states i cant imagine how long this took you. The fact that you had the patience to do this at all is a testament to your dedication to this channel, and your emotional reaction to your "lie" is a testament to the fact that you care about your viewers this much. I respect the hell out of you for this, and genuinely i hope that when push comes to shove i have the same integrity that you do. Much love, my brother.
Don't worry, MDB. You didn't disappoint me. You could have really been that lucky, but just because you weren't doesn't mean you disappointed me. I don't think save states is that big of a deal. But, it took a lot of courage to come clean when it bothered you so much. If anything, I am proud of you for being honest in the end!
Until next challenge, have a nice day! Keep your chin up, MDB!
Lets be honest most of us probably believe MDB would be that lucky considering how many attempts he puts in.
I feel you, man. I mean if you look at what happened to TFS during their SoulSilver Nuzlocke, it was brutal. They came out clean and people _ridiculed_ them for it, like it was a problem for fans for some reason.
So I get it, you feel like you have to come clean or else people will lambast you for "hiding" something that you just did for the sake of your own sanity.
Anyways, I hope you have a great week, enjoy Canadian Thanksgiving :) And also Halloween~
Great video :D
I’m glad that you came clean but I honestly don’t care to much because it’s a pretty small thing
You feeling bad kinda made me think of you as a better person
I’m having deja vu MDB! 😵💫
Part 2 if/when you have the time: How many dittos does it take to -screw in a light bulb- beat Pokemon Silver?
You apologizing in this manner is a good indicator of your integrity. I don't think I'd say your moral compass is too good or too pure, but that's not to belittle or knock you down; I have serious respect for it. You made a mistake and owned up to it.
I'm not gonna say it's fine, mostly because I don't think that's what you need to hear; you felt guilty for a reason and I won't brush that aside. You bit off a little more than you could chew, and you betrayed yourself and your project, and by extension us.
And then you realized and owned up to it. That takes courage to admit, and by and large we forgive you. At least I know I do. So move on and learn. We'll be here for your next video
Didn't I already watch this? 😂
Go to the 34 minute mark
34:09
Okay I watched the end, and yeah you did what you did. Don't worry about it man, you learned and won't do it again. Or if you do got to for some reason just let us know and then you won't feel bad. Guess my guess of 120 times wasn't even close now.
intention is what matters, it wasn't malicious and no one was wronged.
It speaks volumes of your personal character though that a minor, almost unintentional, misdirection ate you up so much inside (especially being in a career that often goes to people's heads). Keep that virtue, it's what makes you a good person MDB. Looking forward to the next video, as always. Be well internet friend
Jokes on you, finding out you got that worked up over something that tiny just makes me trust you more. Because now I know that your line of "this is a bad thing I shouldn't have done" starts at a place where most people wouldn't even think to start considering their actions. LIke yeah, you should've mentioned it was save states, to get the perfect run. Its ridiculous to expect hundreds and thousands of attempts to get that run, especially when used as a last resort. But I'd wager 99% of people do not care in the slightest.
It's just a few very loud and angry people. and if you fix what they're yelling about, they'll just find something else to yell about. Just do things how you like and how you want, we're all here for *you*. funnily enough, that's why you'll never stop the haters. They've made it thier personality to just fucking hate people, so what you do and don't do won't stop their complaints, because what they actually hate is the person they keep watching for some strange reason. But I know you know this already, just a moment of stress induced weakness. Rest well, and I hope you have a happy thanksgiving :)
Man, you’re fine. This isn’t a timed challenge. It’s not a competition. There’s no consequence for failure. Use save states if you want, as long as you don’t significantly misrepresent your skill or the difficulty of the challenge itself. You didn’t do that, so you’re good. 🤷
I am not disappointed in the slightest. I get more dissapointed in my parents buying 1% milk instead of whole milk.
Hell I know this exact feeling. We were out on vacation staying in an airbnb and they had a hot tub. Everyone else was tired and went to bed while I went out to use the hot tub. I didn't quite know how the lid worked and opened it up and heard a little plick kinda noise. Figured it was nothing and went on as normal. When I went to close the hot tub after I was done I realized I had broken the clips that kept the lid on. They were just tiny things. I probably could have ignored it and kept it all hidden, maybe the owners wouldnt even notice, but no it tore me up inside when I thought about keeping it secret. Wheb I told my family they said it was no big deal, but it felt like one to me! It mattered that I messed up and that I had tried to cover it up.
Lying feels bad, and its valid and kinda a good thing to feel bad about. If something this minor makes you feel bad then we all can have some good faith you won't do something worse.
You work hard MDB that's what we appreciate, its never been about winning its the journey you take us on.
Hey man don't beat yourself up over it. Ignore the haters, there's only a few people that make these videos as good as you do and we'd prefer you keep your sanity and stay healthy as opposed to spending hours upon hours to show that something is possible. Does it really matter if you used savestates or a million tries to show that a fight is winnable but requires massive luck? Judging by the majority of the comments, no - and the savestates are much better for both your health and the amount of content that you are able to let us enjoy.
Imo you have no need to be so upset over forgetting to mention the save states - these are free videos you do for us and they’re entertaining! the video doesn’t change in value to me knowing you save stated - it was still fun and wild and I look forward to what you do next run! Thanks for sticking to your morals, though - I could tell by your voice it wasn’t easy to deal with this
Watching this video, as someone who's done many challenge runs on TH-cam, it was obvious to me that the Lance fight was using save states. one because that level of luck in unheard of, but also because that fight is 99.9% impossible without them. I have absolutely no issue with you using state saves, and you certiainly didn't need to apologise for it.
If i'm being honest, I've used Save states before in my videos. Sometimes when you've been trying the same battle over and over again, but you know it's possible, you just want to get it over with. I think most TH-camrs would be lying if they said they'd never used a state save before during a challenge run.
I'm sure the reaction you've got from all this has made you feel a bit better about the situation, but honestly, don't feel bad about this, it's barely worth mentioning, let alone apologising for! Keep it up :)
Look how upset and genuine he is with his apology over this. Imagine if SSSniperwolf was sorry for committing a crime
I still think golden berry from traded machop from goldenrod would help in that last battle... I mean, additional 30hp? I'm not mad that you lost. I'm just curious what would happen with that equiped... Especially that held items are allowed. All you need for that is a drowzee. They put that machop for people stuggling with milktank.
If anyone should feel bad MDB, it should be me for forgetting that Barboach exists.
Shhh shhh MDB you're fine, calm down I don't think anyone is going to be mad about this. I'm certainly not upset and I'm sure most of us aren't upset
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Ffs people, watch the video instead of asking “didn’t I see this!?”
Im curious how this would go if you did a later gen with an Imposter Ditto. Probably would be just as much as a "struggle"
Don't beat yourself up so much man.
You didn't have any malice behind anything when you said that.
I'm like you in the sense that I've got an incredibly heavy conscious, and I take pride in being a terrible liar as I don't like to practice lying.
As far as I'm concerned, you didn't have any malice behind anything plus you've owned up to what you did, so no harm no foul in my mind 😊
Honestly, I kind of liked seeing the best ditto could have possibly done in the lance fight and showing that it wouldn't have worked. There's gotta be a point where we see the towel needs to be thrown in and we saw that moment.
I had fun watching it. No more needs to be said.
Bro, who cares. I love you, I love your videos, this is not a huge deal. You are one or my favorite youtubers, and you should be proud of yourself. Don't sweat it
33:31 According to Showdown Damage Calculator (can't give links because thanks TH-cam), a perfect level 44 Gyarados has 178 HP. Dragonite at level 47 has 186 and at 50 197, a level 46 Charizard has 170, and a level 46 Aerodactyl has 172.
The sum of their HP is 178 + 186*2 + 197 + 170 + 172 = 1089, so you lose 273 HP in total to recoil trying to beat Lance with Struggle. Even a perfect Ditto with full stat experience would have had 299, and you can never OHKO anything without a crit, so you can't win without holding an HP recovery item (preferably a Gold Berry because the Leftovers isn't available yet), and have to contend with paralysis among other things.
Yay for having to pick your poison between recovering only 30 HP or getting zapped to death even if you transform into Gyarados, I guess. Then again, an ideal Ditto would have 56 HP to spare with a Gold Berry, which could be good enough if you get really lucky.
You might also want to make sure you have full stat XP in all stats before getting to Level 100. After that, you can't gain any.
PS. Good ethics there, but don't beat yourself up about it. If you did succeed with save states, that would have meant it was possible anyway.
When you first came on after the end of the run, i thought something truly awful had happened. But no, it's just MDB feeling really really REALLY bad that he tired brained the end of the run and didn't properly tell us about the save states. You're good. I think that final battle truly exemplifies what a ditto run is.
One good thing to come from this is I had to manually search out this video to comment since i watched off of a download, and thus discovered that NEWBIE NATE IS BACK!!!
MDB i know I'm late to the party on the reupload but i remember watching the original. I promise you that every one of us fans forgive you whole-heartedly. You made a mistake but it happens. Ive been watching you ever since that first Pokémon challenge run dropped, and I haven't looked back. You make such genuine content, and the fact you'd put in the time and work to clear the air with a reupload, even through your busy schedule, proves that to all of us. I don't know if this is still getting to you 2 months later, but i as well as many others want to reassure you that it is really okay. Keep trucking and making these absolute banger videos that we both know you are capable of!
Tons of respect for how you handled this, despite it really not being a huge deal, addressing it on a matter of principle is very honorable.
Now to be fair, I don't think what you did in the game was cheating, and I'd actually prefer you use savestates more (Especially if it goes 100+ attempts, holy heck!) of course make sure you disclose it when you resort to it just to test if a fight is even possible. You work really dang hard, no need to make it a struggle.
These challenges are meant to be fun, not just for us to watch but for you to play. In the Nuzlocke community I know they generally have a "whatever feels fun" attitude to optional rules, I absolutely encourage sparing use of tools to make better use of your precious time.
Much love MDB, you're an inspiration and a gem.
My Man, My favorite Pokémon related youtuber is Indeed my favorite TH-camr. You don't have to apologize for this, I can actually still sense victory for coming to this part of the challenge. PS: Sorry about my awful English thou.
I don't see a problem with TAS, as long as it's declared. If you end up at the final fight, level 100, struggling, and just want to see if it's mathematically possible, do it.
(Obviously, it'll still count as a loss since meatspace MDB's time/patience ran out. But I wanna KNOW, y'know.)
I know this video is out for quite some time, but I now get to see it.
My personal thoughts about your disclaimer at 34:00...
You truly have a huge heart for being this honest and open with us!! You make videos how YOU want it, not even for the views, but for giving us a great time and truly that is wholesome.
Yes you cheated what is against how you want to make your videos, but truly that's fine.
The title of this video is "Can I Beat Pokemon Gold with ONLY Ditto?". There can only be 2 answers: Yes or No.
If it is Yes, you blow our socks off showing that it IS possible.
If the answer is No, you CAN make it Yes, but... you can make a fun twist like the save-states or something else with a gimmick.
It's okay if you kinda cheat, but it's fine if you say afterwards. Let us think you do it legit and afterwards saying HA GOT YOU!! Because you got us good 😂
Don't feel bad for the feeling you cheated to us, but do what you want how you want, to give us a great playthrough and giving us a great time for watching each of your videos, forgetting the horrible world we're living in and having a good time.
I don’t understand why people were telling you to try harder at that Lance fight. How do you “try” in that fight. It is literally mash the “A” button and hope that the stars align. There is no other strategy that you could have done.
My first watch was the reupload and I found it really funny when you said you save stated. That must have been super brutal. The states were more for your benefit of testing the RNG to see if it is/was even possible.
Please don’t beat yourself up about it. Nothing is gonna stop me from watching these challenges or unsubscribing from you unless you go down the subpar video with clickbait titles route. Which I know you will never do because the MDB brand is about quality content that is fun and enjoyable.
Keep being you MDB, I love your content and am always ready for your Saturday challenges.
Mad respect to you for fessing up. The new ending actually makes me trust you even more than I did before because you didn't feel right leaving it the way it was! Looking forward to the next challenge! I've been watching for a really long time and I'm not gonna stop just because of a little hiccup. Everyone makes mistakes!
Honestly, even had you maxed out your stat experience, Lance would almost for sure wouldve required ludicrous amounts of luck. And even if you had beaten Lance, Red almost for sure wouldnt have been possible.
As for the "lie", meh. Its whatever. If you couldnt win even with savestates you werent going to win without them. So same result regardless.
Youre still probably my favorite Poketuber
Much love to you. You did nothing wrong, I feel neither "betrayed", lied or something. But I think it's a very strong and humanly great of you being this honest and admitting that stuff without you needing to do it. I also think you're taking that much more to your heart as something like this should - but I'm like that, too, so I really understand it; just wanting to point out, you don't have to feel such bad from my perspective and since that won't change anything (above all I just missed this and get to know it after the video after this and then had to watch this , so I'm really late :D), I just want to reassure you to know, you're a nice person and because of your character alone you will deal with that stuff better than valued 80% of other people (who don't care) in the future, and I hope you're doing fine with everything. :-)
Thank you for coming clean on the save-states thing. I really believe it would have been hard for me to come back to your content if you tried to hide it and later got caught about it. It would become difficult to get invested in any challenge run you did in the future if I knew in the back of my mind "He could be save stating everything, and I'd have no idea." But because you came forward with it of your own volition, because of the sincerity that came through in your apology, that fear has been dispelled from my mind.
I'm not going to join the chorus of people saying "oh it's no big deal, you did nothing wrong." Because, I'll be real with you: you did. You did do something wrong. You're a challenge run youtuber with a big audience, for many of your fans the competitive integrity of your challenges matter to us. We're here for the struggles and the triumphs and yes even the losses, and that is cheapened by any-and-all short-cuts. I also personally just don't care for liars. In the age of misinformation where lying has never been easier or more dangerous, honesty is a supreme virtue. There are young kids who watch your content, and regardless of if you intend for this to happen or not: your character will impress on them. In the business you're in, you have a civic responsibility to be a good role model. So yes, it was just a small cheat in a silly Pokémon challenge run, but it was wrong and you were right to be sorry about it.
That said, I want to reiterate that you did the right thing, retroactively. I am both mad at you for the cheating, but proud of you for doing the right thing after the fact. I'm going to keep watching, I'm going to keep being a proud fan. But I want to be painfully clear that is only because you came clean on your own, and with remarkable sincerity and convinced me that it won't happen again. You're a good role model for kids MDB, you're honest, you're earnest about the things you love, you take care of your family, you show that problem solving and tenacity are rewarded, and you hold yourself to standards. Because of that, I'd hate to see something like this happen again.
Integrity matters, especially when the lie "is no big deal," and doubly so when "no one will ever know." It's like you said, small lies are just practice for bigger ones.
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As a less serious aside. I do want to go on the record that I personally have never been disappointed by a challenge runner failing a run. I'll admit that the runs where you lose being among my favorites, I almost root for you to lose. Because, well, it doesn't really feel all that challenging if you always win(and you nearly always win). So push that idea of disappointing your fans from your mind, for every punk who complains when you lose a run, know that there's probably another weirdo like me who is actually quite happy about it. You won't disappoint us.
Hey MDB, honestly, when you asked how many tries you took to achieve that, I was sitting there like at least 2000 tries to have that luck. So I was super surprised that it was just 128.
I am honestly surprised how genuinely upset you sound in the end. Of course, you are forgiven. It’s not that bad. You still lost, dude. Think about that.
With your history and background, we are just glad you are here creating entertainment for us.
So, please, in the future, use whatever tools you require. Rapid fire buttons, rare candy, save states, you name it. Look at people like Scott’s thoughts, he is hacking the Pokemon in to have ideal scenarios. And that is fine for his analytic approach. You have a more relaxed and fun approach. That’s also fine. Honestly, it’s sad that in the ideal scenario, the challenge remains incomplete. But that’s not what your channel is about. So whatever.
I thought it was really cute that you addressed the children watching this. Let that be a lesson for you, kids: Honesty and integrity will bring you much further in your relationships than being the best at all thing all the times. Weaknesses can be your biggest strengths.
Just looked up the math on your stats: looks like you lost out on around 30 or so HP and around 20-30 attack based on the DV range at the beginning of the video
First, I never comment ever on anything cause I’m a lurker. It’s all good my dude. Now shame, you didn’t think about it. I’m proud of you for fessing up. Good on you for being honest. You’re awesome. Keep your chin up.
Honestly this feels like a hell of a lot of work for something that doesn't really end up as a ditto run, it's a struggle run. Beat Pokemon 'With only this one pokemon' is less interesting than 'How useful can transform be?'. With a gimick pokemon I want to see it's gimmick! Maybe allowing three dittos with a level cap for example so actual strategies beyond beating your poor head on this wall exist.
I want to believe and say yes but i wouldnt be suprised if you like double or triple the lvl of some of these "boss" battles.
Edit: Bro your so good! Your being very harsh on yourself. My family (Wife, kid and myself) watch your videos and this isn't going to change anything, not even a consideration. You have to do something over 1000x worse than fib on a challenge run for something like that.
Don't be so hard on yourself.
Honestly, I'd kinda left your channel, but you being so honest has actually brought me back
And Ditto is a REALLY hard Pokemon to do a challenge with.
MDB showing his wholesome level. 1 Saying I can't swear and 2 feeling guilt that he lied about saved states. This just showd why parents watch with their kids hun. I for sure agree with others to show it is impossible, declare this is with using save states. You also were using a lv100 pokemon on a solo run, how "try harder" can you go in a game where the level cap is 100. I fell alseep watching the OG video and missed the end, so decided to "rewatch" this morning so I only know this version, kind of glad I did as I love your honesty ramble. Is ture and from the heart.
Honestly, using save states to make it possible to get the RNG to be able to clearly show you don't have a chance makes a lot of sense in this situation. Each attack has a 6.64% chance to crit, and with needing to crit the first attack on every single Pokemon, that alone is 1 in 45,552. Assuming you're running the game at full speed to get footage that isn't sped up and an average time of 1 minute, that would be an expected 759 hours to have made enough attempts to equal that rate. There's no guarantee you would've gotten it in that time too. Then you count in the fact they need to avoid paralysis five times with a 25% chance to not avoid it each time, then it's 1 in 4 attempts that would normally crit every attack that'd not be paralyzed every turn. Applying that to the time taken, it's easily over 3000 hours to get this kind of luck. If you can cut out thousands of hours with using save states, I feel that's fair game no matter what anyone says or thinks. Honestly, I'd add it as a general disclaimer since it's potentially the biggest single time saver for trying fights like this one that just generally aren't possible.
Chin up MDB. Many of us watching these videos (myself included) have lied/misled/whatever you want to call it and not owned up to it. The fact you did over something that truly cause no one real harm just because your moral compass obligated you to shows a man with great character. It will likely feel crappy for a while, but i hope you remember what you have done for all of us over the years and that you have helped so many in more ways than you can imagine. You and your content has been the lone bright spot on dark days for a bunch of us. Thanks as always and I hope you move yourself past this soon.
P.S. if you still feel the need for it, I hear a road of atonement does run through Pokemon Stadium 2! 😬
Good on you for coming clean. You're right that it was a silly thing to lie about and probably no one would notice. (I wouldn't! Pokemon rng is ridiculous sometimes.) I don't blame you for using save states--I can't imagine how long and tedious a run like this would be. And at the end of the day, what's wild about that last fight is that even with perfect luck, Ditto still couldn't make it. I'm glad for your sake that you got this off your shoulders, but rest assured it doesn't make me think any less of you. I'd love to see you save state for perfect rng for future runs that are similarly hopeless. You know, when it's just not realistic to brute force a win but you want to see what perfect luck could change, if anything
I've been lied to! I should unsubscribe, de-like all your videos and delete all my commets!
But since I am lazy, don't like change, frankly do not care that something was manipulated and still enjoy your content I just leave everything as it is and continue watching your future content.^^
Bro… I don’t think anyone…. I don’t think that anyone expected you to put in the exponentially huge, astronomically oversized amount of hours that that would take. Never feel guilty about that. Never ever. Love your content man, the most important thing to me at least is that you’re having fun doing what you’re doing. I enjoy your enthusiasm in your videos more than you know and if you burn yourself out running the same fight for days on end, your flame going out would kill this channel more than any time saving shortcut ever would. For real. None of us were or are upset. We love ya man
Dude. I me tell you as someone who watches more than a healthy amount of those Pokémon challenges. I already thought you did. You not doing anything wrong, you didn’t lie, you fine. I and everyone watching appreciate you telling us, but you fine. Calm down and I see you next time!
I'm a regular on a fairly popular Warhammer battle report channel, and we have regular discussions during our turns of "well this would likely swing the game pretty hard, but this would be more interesting to see where it goes?" off camera. At the end of the day part of being present on TH-cam is putting up entertainment value.
Even with save stating it still takes repeat efforts to see the results you're looking for, you're just cutting out some of the rng from other attempts. In videos past you've made it abundantly clear you'd prefer to keep things honest; your historical preference to grind over using rare candies, coming clean here, etc.
I think it's fair game to treat save stating as a new tool in the toolbox for what makes the fights as interesting as possible. In those last minute, if only I could make this work because otherwise it's impossible, one in 1000 odds fights. Same as rare candies it makes your job more accessible which is important in your post health issues world.
I've no doubt the rest of the community is behind you too, don't be too hard on yourself and your honesty is appreciated friend. As far as TH-cam apology vids go this probably wasn't as needed as some are but all the more appreciated for it
I never really comment on your videos.
Here’s the thing about these videos, I watch to see if these runs are possible and hearing you work out all the challenges that they present.
This run came down to pure luck, in the last fight, no puzzle to solve.
I want to know if these brutal runs are actually possibly if you get the most optimal luck.
I want to know what would happen if the last dragon it’s used safeguard, or missed fire blast or hyper beam. Did Ditto have enough health to win?