James O'Brien caller claims 'nobody in Israel wants to see the war end' | LBC
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- James O'Brien rejects the logic of Melvin in Tel Aviv, who admits that while he wants to see Benjamin Netanyahu replaced as Israel's Prime Minister, he agrees with the attempts to 'eradicate Hamas.'
Melvin stresses that 'fighting a war without innocent civilians' dying is impossible and that 'everybody in Israel' is in support of the war.
The conversation also touches on US Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer's call for Israel to hold elections to replace Netanyahu.
Schumer, who is the highest-ranking Jewish official in the US government, has warned that casualties in Gaza risk turning Israel into a 'pariah' and that Netanyahu has 'lost his way.'
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I really wish they'd stop calling him 'Bibi', he's not your favorite uncle ... he's downright evil !
I believe the sentiment around the use of 'Bibi' has made a derogatory turn at this point.
BB as Brother Butcher
How about 'SatanYahoo'?
@@acrodave9287 that’s what I call him
I feel you, it’s the same when people would call Johnson, Boris, like he’s their friend!
How about giving the Palestinians their land back and leaving them in peace?
Where do you suggest the Israelis go?
@@andrewcarson5850 Well, they could live together if Israel stop the atrocities...
@@andrewcarson5850maybe live in Palestine without the need to seize it or maybe in Europe where they're from?
@@ThomasKing19933well a quarter of Israel's population are Arabic
If only they weren't so horrified about sharing equal rights with other citizens...
Only a British Jew could say that the Palestinians don't want a state and need 'reeducation'. Astounding arrogance.
I am Irish and we understand that story from our past
A former head of Israeli Intelligence has recently described Netanyahu's right-wing government as "Jewish Fascism" and Netanyahu's strategy as based on "Messianic Zionism". For example, Netanyahu's Minister for National Security (Itamar Ben-Gvir) is a convicted Zionist terrorist based on his activities as the leader of the far-right party Otzma Yehudi (Jewish Power).
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the irish and the russians are the only two exceptions.
He claimed to be an Israeli.
I'm not Jewish, but I did live in Tel Aviv for a while with my Israeli Jewish girlfriend. Whenever she spoke (perfect) English, everyone assumed (even Israelis and Americans) that she was American.
In fact, on more than one occasion, we'd be overheard talking in a shop, and when we were buying things, I'd attempt to converse in broken Hebrew, whilst the cashier would respond in Hebrew, and then turn to my girlfriend and attempt to talk to her in broken English.
Mind you, to be fair, I doubt many Israelis would learn English with an accent like his!
It's the colonialism, it go's to their heads 😮
Israel is not becoming a pariah state, it is already a pariah state and has been for the past 75 years.
You're delusional 😂
And Palestine it´s not even a state.
@@zippymufo9765 He's incorrect in that he thinks it's been that way for 75 years. There were times over the last 75 years where Israel was becoming normalized/accepted. He's not incorrect about it becoming a pariah state though. Public opinion and support for Israel was between 20 and 30 points higher in Europe/North America before/on Oct 7 and there have been similar drops in other parts of the world.
If that continues for much longer, during the next wave of elections, pro-Israel Western powers will become either anti-Israel Western powers, or at best, neutral to Israel powers. Considering Israel is outnumbered vastly by its neighbours and has few allies in the region, Israel CANNOT afford to lose Western support which is what makes its current course so curious.
@@zippymufo9765You are deluded beyond words.
@@MrBrock314Deeply discerning people always knew. Their lies finally caught up with them.
Netanyahu is worse than Hamas! Look at the difference in action between Israel and Hamas! Israeli barbarity is far worse
It's like the school bully acting the victim after 3 years of picking on a kid. Victim gets one small punch back and the bully puts the kid in hospital, then claims he is the victim and we should support him without question.
Totally agree. I have not heard much from Hamas but in the hundreds of times I have heard Netanyahu, he has lied to me virtually every time.
Exactly, the only way I took that was that it was more of an insult to Hamas than to Neyanyahu to be group together. Hamas is the consequence of what Israel had been doing, that's why Israel was formed in 1948 but Hamas was created (with the help of Israel) some 40 years after.
Hamas will be cancelled...
@@forestsunset9617 I'll remember that comment the next time there is a terrorist attack in the UK an you're whinging for the gov to respond (like in 2005), short memories!!
"I'm an Israeli"
Guy with a British accent
Guy with an American accent
Guy with an Australian accent
My reaction exactly.
While living in a stolen property
Settlers/Colonists.
@@hyderally8045
leaving?/ living? 🤔
I’m British
Guy with Pakistani accent
Guy with Arabic accent
The caller says Palestinians need a generation to be “reeducated”. Spoken like a true colonialist, with a British accent and all. Given what we’ve repeatedly heard from Israeli leaders and what we’ve seen every day, it is callers such as this individual who requires re-education.
Seems like you do too. Where were you educated?
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Wish I could like this twice
It’s always the colonized who need the ‘reeducation’ isn’t it? Never the colonizer. They think they are perfect in their oppression
@@lunatigannie8860’Kind and generous’ lol white benevolence huh?
If that's what passes for a moderate in Israel, there truly is no hope.
There is no moderate in israel only right, far right and extreme right
Mind Begs the Question:
- If Criticism of Israel/Zionists
- Is Criticism of all Jews/Anti-Semitic
- Crimes of Israel/Zionists
- Crimes of all Jews?
The reality is that the problem is far deeper than Netanyahu. Look at the opinion polls in Israel not on Bibi but on the conduct of the Gaza war crimes. Look at the news and comment broadcasts from Israel read the interviews in the media with so called Israeli liberals. The UK media strategy of after five months concluding the problem lies with one individual is an endeavour to wash their own hands as accessories.
Precisely.
Watching Israeli channels and reading Israeli newspapers as an Hebrew speaker is a soul crushing experience. See how Israeli politicians come across as genocidal maniac when they speak in English? They are a millions times worse in Hebrew.
Clearly there is more extremism in Israel. We can see the conduct of their soldiers in Gaza and we can hear common man on Tel Aviv street.
At least some of this though is due to the leadership in Isreal from people such as Netanyahu and his fellow travellers. In such horrendous times the need for leadership is at it's greatest and Isreal is stuck with the very worst of the right wing.
@@gazza595true up to a point. However, Israeli society has been conditioned over decades to view Palestinians in a way that makes their horrendous treatment in Gaza acceptable and even desirable to most Israelis.
@@gazza595 That guy from Tel Aviv was literally quoting Eylon Levy about the civilian thing. He's fully bought his own country's propaganda. There is a way to execute a war with DRAMATICALLY less civilian deaths and he's ignoring that option.
@@nk-gp1ml there are dozens of documentaries on this exact topic - dehumanisation of Palestinians. I need to get through watching Israelism
@@farahabdulahi474 Yes, 'Isrealism' is a great insight into how Zionism has to be conditioned in. Also find 'Occupation of the American mind' free on YT, which looks at how biased & powerful propaganda is in America and pr'aps the UK to a lesser extent. Although I think this latest attack on Gaza is a turning point in public opinion and understanding.
Hamas would not need exist if they weren't oppressed
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They wouldn't exist if bibi didn't fund them
Really - so Islamic extremism is only in Gaza or West bank? Open your eyes - this is a battle being fought across the globe right now and has been for years and its going to get a lot worse.
Exactly .. just like the IRA wouldn't have existed if it were not for a british occupation of ireland
Not a valid comparison though - the IRA weren't fighting for destruction of the UK nor for the mass killing of other Christians globally - Hamas is wanting every jew dead and israel destroyed and is part of a far bigger militant islamic issue we are facing globally.@@christianmccann9400
There is no comparison between Hamas and Netanyahu, I agree. Netanyahu has FAR more blood on his hands.
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Yes
Disagree Hamas are worse they engineered this war 100%
and what makes you think that?
@@talmid Current events. Seen any clips or pictures from Gaza as of late?
James, the caller is right about Israelis.
Doesn't matter about their internal politics.
They want Palestinians gone.
They want the Palestinian Islamic jihadists gone. Not the Palestinians who can live in peace. Just those who don't accept a Jewish state in the land.
How they can say stuff like "reeducation" without a hint of colonialist self awareness is wild.
No they do not! They are about half liberal and half evil conservatives just like in Britain.
they want all of the land for themselves, have done for decades, have done since they arrived there.
@@forestsunset9617 There's a reason for the IDF steadily forcing so many Palestinians in Gaza to the South and up to the Egyptian border. There's a very clear strategy to attempt to force them out of Gaza. That's one reason that Egypt tries to prevent mass crossings. Once Palestinians are over the border they would NEVER get back.
European guy with a British accent, thinks he is indigenous to middle east 🤦♀️
Pakistani in England are not british
@@HispanicMama no one said they were!
@@HispanicMama Or jews?
@@HispanicMama If they hold British citizenship they are British.
Notice, too, that they are not representing an ethno-state-ideology.
@@HispanicMama but not of them claim to be indegenous 😂
How can it be antisemetic to call the far right Israeli government out as far right?
It’s not
it's not their government.
it's them.
Because you guys only care when Israel misbehaves, you ignore the rest. Why is that?
@user Being called anti-Semitic is a grave insult!
@@wulfhere83 because it's NEVER held accountable, for decades now . Maybe it's time
Well they've been occupying Palestine for the last 75 years
no, they haven't. palestine never exsisted
Read a history book. israel was created by the British after world war 2. Land has been stolen since then. Please teach yourself. There is no excuse these days to be so uninformed @hendor2885
Melvin - "we have a proper democracy in fact it's probably 2 democratic" what a load of BS - An apartheid state cannot be democratic.
Absolutely
It's not an apartheid state!
@@talmid It's worse.
@@talmid If it has different laws for different people with the law favourable to one group at the expense of the other ithen t is Aparthied
@@benharper3200 It hasn't
That's because it's not a war. Where in Israel are Palestinian soldiers?
IOF doesn't fight soldiers,then only fight woman and children. It was proven in 2006, and one and for all the last 5 months
dont be silly - outside of the channel islands we never faced the Nazis in the UK but fought a war with them - same with the Americans.
@@madsellerforeveryour example fell to pieces as soon as you acknowledged Nazis occupying part of Britain
US and Germany then. @@jjboswell5043
@jjboswell5043 And it is likely that because we had a lot of foreign fighter pilots flying Spitfires & Hurricanes, that we managed to win the "Battle of Britain" and thus stop the invasion of the UK by Germany. We were also lucky that Germany chose to invade Russia first!
That caller dont sound Israeli, he sounds English
Many Americans, including Americans holding powerful political office in America are dual Nationals
Just like many of Israel's official spokesman?
The wealthy educated ones are put through elite schools in the US and UK. Israels total population is about the same as London.@@geoffbardell8872
@@geoffbardell8872 many Israeli are native to middle east
Dual citizenship like many others.
What's this 'British' guy doing living on Arab land in Palestine? That should've been your question here, James O'Brien.
It was the British who liberated the land from 400 years of Turkey rule so he’s got the most right to the there.
@@Panzerfaustchen Nah, his family were probably still in his homeland of Russia/Poland. Btw, have you ever read the Balfour declaration? It doesn't mention a jewish state, it only mentions Palestine (twice) and it says nothing in it is to affect the rights of any "non-jews" living in Palestine....
@@Panzerfaustchen: So the British stole, sorry - liberated the land from the Turks, and gave it to European colonists. During the same time period, India, parts of Africa, Malaysia, and etc. were still ruled by the British.
Why there are so many Palis in Europe and US?
@@waltermesser9737 Why are there so many jews?
Melvin, Melvin, Melvin, your ancestors will be wondering what lessons were learnt and what history didn't teach, to allow you to live your comfortable life, while your neighbour suffers at your blood stained hands.
Sorry James, your caller is correct. He is an accurate reflection of israelis.
wrong, this is racism pure and simple, there are many pro-peace israelis
@@neonwired4978 Yes Hamas is in Israel just them
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They really are a nasty bunch.
James has difficulty recognizing that a significant amount of Israelis society is extreme and support continuation of slaughter in Gaza. The reluctance to understand is connected it seems to an honest effort to combat anti-semitism, but it misses that Netanyahu isn’t the issue, it’s the whole system.
He really does, a lot of liberal Zionists do. they want to pretend that it is one man, Natanyahu. That if he is replaced, then Israel will magically become a peace loving and tolerant society instead of a radicalised, far right ultra nationalist population of extremists
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So many people are like that, I don’t understand where such empathy comes from, we don’t see the hate for jews being a huge thing in recent years, and on the face of what is happening now, at least the intelligent, informed people should have been awakened by now 🙄
100% correct
Yeah well the fact that O'Brien calls Jeremy Corbyn an anti-semite without any evidence.
Is corporate media working hand in hand with the Israeli lobby, the ultra wealthy and the military industrial complex to destroy a man who genuinely wanted peace in the middle East and to help all the people involved instead of making the mega wealthy, slightly wealthier.
It's a shame and the fact that O'Brien doesn't see this is why his country voted for Boris f'ing Johnson is due to willful ignorance that allows him to keep his LBC show.
The system works
Do you not understand that regardless of what you hear on the street in tel Aviv millions and millions around the world already see you as a pariah state.
Deranged caller lost me when he said I.s.r.ael has a _proper democracy._
Israel subjected Palestinians to their military control, but never gave them a vote.
It is democratic... if you dont include not letting half the people vote because they'll vote against you...
Happy to be corrected, can you tell me why it isn't? Don't they have elections and government changes etc?
@@HecticGlennread warbaman’s comment, they explain why it’s not a true democracy.
@@HecticGlenn Not for everyone in Israel. It might be considered a "proper democracy" but just for Jews, although that's not really a technical term I think you get the idea. Different courts for different folks. Different voting rights based on aspects of your background (and no, not like barring felons from voting). I'd recommend googling "democracy rankings freedom house Israel" and looking at item b4 and decide for yourself? It's not a lengthy section but quickly shows some major issues.
The caller just does not want to give up the occupation.
can't give up what doesn't exsist
@hendor2885 the occupation does exist. You can't just ignore it because it's convenient.
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mmm no, it really doesn't. there's just a bunch of fools who can't stop crying about the consequences of their actions, and some usefull bigger fools who believe them
Netanyahu funds hamas
Funded. Probably doesn't need to anymore.
@@1848revoltyou have no idea if he still does or not
In Israel, sadly, the electorate consistst of three political factions: The right, the far right and the radical far right.
do you joking ?
@@ixion025 By no means. In Februrary 2024, according to the IDI, 68% of the Israeli Jews opposed the transfer of humanitarian aid (food & medicine) to Gaza residents.
@@JensPeterLiljegren what’s the point with your 3 political factions statements ?
@@ixion025 To highlight the radicalization. Move on to Gideon Levy and Ilan Pappé if you still don’t get the point.
@@JensPeterLiljegren ok
George Orwell: “The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance."
Excellent anti-capitalist quote.
Hes keep calling him self an israeli but sounds like someone from readings, whos probably living in stolen property in occupied territories.
Should he wear flip flops, shorts , claim benefits, blaming his lack of his education on others and playing the victim?
Go get an education. No one's stopping you. @@eddiecalderone
when you start a war and lose you don't get to complain about losing your territory so none of it is "occupied"
@hendor2885 No one in the right mind would give in to terrorists and let themselves be occupied. There will always be resistance, now the worlds starting to see them for what they are. How long will uncle Sam continue to provide military aid?
@@hyderally8045
tell me you know nothing about the history of the region without telling me etc etc
The 'so called' moderate apologists for the Israeli mass slaughter of defenceless civillians, are either witless or dishonest, or possibly both. The caller's argument is patently absurd on all levels and he's actually just another extremist in denial.
Am I still shadow banned?
Hard to understand how you can’t agree? Moral cowardice?
The behaviour of Hamas on October 7th was a terrorist attack.
But if you can’t call the behaviour of the IDF on a manic out of control killing spree as exactly the same,is quite beyond me?
@user-xd7dk3oy3q, They will never call people with a white skin and fair hair ‘terrorist’ that’s why they won’t call the IDF terrorist even though they’ve killed civilians .
the 7th of october was self-defense.
why do you demonize those who are fighting against the na-zis?
You have to talk to Piers Morgan for the answer.
Fighting against oppression is never terrorism. It's resistance and rightly so.
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I don’t have a problem with that…. But if there’s any consequences, it’s only laughable to complain and play victim.
Israel is doing what is necessary for the protection of their own people.
The occupied will not surrender their land
Yes that is absolutely right the Palestinians will never give up their land.
"Too democratic" 😆 🤣 😂 an apartheid state is never too democratic
Nor a democracy.
If this is an example of a moderate Israeli, then Israel should be a pariah state, perhaps even more so than North Korea.
The caller is right, there is no moral equivalence between Netanyahu and Hamas. Both have committed numerous war crimes but Netanyahu is way ahead.
Not really a war when only one side has an army.
Terrorists don’t really do wars - that’s why they’re getting their mums to ask for a ceasefire
Chuck Schumer could’ve said that at any point in the past. This “pivotal” moment was far too late
On purpose!
General elections are coming in November, Democrats have to placate the populous.
He's a shill for IZ and always will be, but to even do this Kabuki theater means some calculus has fundamentally changed.
Because the Democrats are shaken by the "uncommited" vote and now have decidedly to remove Bibi Because the other guy, I forgot his name(another war crime bozo) is a possible successor and has a "day after" solution.
He’s insincere
This caller might be Douglas Murray pretending to be someone else dishing his propaganda 🤣
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That snake Murray again…….
I hate that sweaty man. He’s always so bitter
Not enough of a lisssssssp
if by "propoganda" you mean "truth". but i never thought Douglas Murray had that much potential as a voice actor
"Anyone who wants to avoid the creation of the Palestinian state has to support Hamas and has to transfer money to Hamas. This is what we are doing and this is part of our strategy. To finance Hamas so that there will never be a Palestinian state." ... Guess who said that?
Yep, Benjamin Netanyahu, in 2019, in the Knesset
Bibiiiiii🎉🎉
Israel should have been a pariah state since they invaded Palestine in 1948
They didn't
@@hyderally8045you can’t rewrite history 😂
Okay, European Jews didn’t exactly invade, they started trickling in since Balfour, then in ever increasing numbers. And there were the Zionist terror gangs like Haganah and Irgun who helped finish the job
@@hyderally8045 so what happened then?
@@lynnevenables7193 they were given the land by the British Empire who took it from the Ottoman Empire. It was stolen by one party, and given to another party who had an ancient vague claim on it. Problem was and load of people already lived there and they didn't want them there then or today.
@@lynnevenables7193 they didn't invade. They arrived as refugees, and stabbed the indigenous population in the back. Britian, Europe, US provided them with long range, rapid, superior weapons and armour, stored in British barracks. While Palestinian had old ottoman miquelets.... I don't know why I'm giving a history lesson in youtube comments section 😕
The caller will not say how many deaths are too many.. he just says however many it takes...doesn't that equal all Palestinians, he just doesnt want ti say it outloud
A guy with a very English accent living in Israel claiming there will be no 2 state solution for Palestinians the indigenous people of the land .
We are really living in a warped dystopian world .
This caller is delusional thinking that 80% of hamas is dead. Where is there proof?
Same place as all their other proof....... NOWHERE.
where is the proof of the dead numbers in Gaza, and don't say the "Gaza health ministry" because that doesn't prove anything....
The caller is part of a collective that thinks gaslighting on a global scale is achievable by the relentlessness of reiteration policies.
@@lloydbrowne6042 he's bad hasbara
An israeli point of view .. speaks with a british accent ..
That is always make me angry 😡. nonsense
Like americans claiming to be Irish on at Patrick's day
@chad0x OR .. just proud of having Irish ancestry ..
Itamar Ben-Gvir is a possible next p.m. if snap elections are called right now. That's where the civil discourse is at in Israel. Read into it as you will.
Yep, there's been polls that say the younger generations in Israel are more likely to be on the radical right
James really revealing the staggering breadth of his intellectual indolence and lack of engagement, here. How many in South Africa wanted apartheid to end, if they were part of the 'master' group? Not many. It is no different here. It is absurd to think the problem comes down to one man at the top. James knows that isn't true when it comes to Trump in the USA, but here he plays dumb and refuses to watch or listen to media and just plain video from the region that makes everything perfectly clear-- the number of people who literally, lit er ally cheer and celebrate the carnage and misery and mass starvation of an entire people. They sing songs about it.
For the past few years (ever since he labelled a caller a zionist) he's been super cautious of not over stepping the line, in fear of career longevity.
You're no different to the caller. You imagine your opinion trumps everyone elses. Here's a clue. It doesn't.
@mobsiesixsixsix9785 his opinion trumps no one else's. But the facts do.
Official polls do trump your opinions, though. They show everything
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@mobsiesixsixsix9785 James's fan girls are known for their blind adherence to Obrienism. 😂
Convenient how none of the 4 barriers to peace are settler colonialism and apartheid that have ALWAYS existed since the founding of the state of Israel. It's how the state was created and continues to be how the state operates. THAT is what has to be fixed/stopped in order for peace to be forged. Israel is currently doing tp Palestinians what the USA did to Native Americans, but we're all witnessing it on social media and the internet. Don't let history repeat itself yet again. The entire West needs to come to terms with this cuz most of them were created this way and shouldn't be ok with it happening again.
Netanyahu didn't say in 1973 that he wanted to eradicate every Arab from Gaza and the West Bank, which he believes are part of Israel. Netanyahu said they could live there but not as Israeli nationals. This is also known as Apartheid.
"Agnostic Jew" in the USA. 100% of my family over 50 agree with your caller. Probably 50-50 for the 30-50 year olds. And almost 100% support for Palestine amongst the youngsters. In the USA. Our relatives who have moved to Israel are almost 100% in agreement with your caller regardless of age bracket. I will say the smidgen of anti-Zionism I see in that wing of the family is from the teens and 20 somethings. It's not a lot of them but they're present.
James is so naive about what probably 90% of Jews in Israel think of Palestinians.
The *ONLY* way for this to end is *EXTERNAL* pressure.
A left-wing Israeli is still in agreement with Netanyahu on Palestinians.
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And that’s where change will
come. The young generation have better morality than the old. They see injustice and call it out. I’ve seen many young Israelis open their eyes and realise that what is happening to Palestine is scandalous.
@@ProjectThoughtare these moral ‘young people’ protesting all the other atrocities in the world too?
I have cousins in Israel and they believe in the complete irradication of the palestinian people. The irony, given my grandad and great grandma survived the concentration camps.
Wilful blindness is complicity JAMES
Well said. I was horrified with O'Brien
Is it a War ? Or a situation where one side is trying to wipe out another
Did they call Schumer Hamas yet?
He'll be labelled anti-semetic in 3, 2, ....
No. They, us Israelis think he has no business messing with a democracy process in another country
@@michaelschneider4837when they fund and arm it they do and when they interfere in everyone else's business globally they will
Then give us back is our welfare, but y’all won’t do that will you because history will repeat itself for the umpteenth time@@michaelschneider4837
@@michaelschneider4837. There would be no Israel, without American money. He’s got every right to, so call interfere, how dare you. If America stops the funding, see how long you last. Israel is a pariah State.
Thousands and thousands of children are just statistics and not stories. Hypocrisy is crushing empathy
6 months in. Jews and Israeli voices. Worried about Israel. Antisemitism. Islamophobia. About PM Ben. What about Chuck Schumer. Biden. Future of Israel. Any chance of getting a Palestinian voice on?
James why are you giving this guy airtime?
07:48 : from a middle eastern point of view!! Yeah we can hear the accent 😂😂
More Middlesex than middle east
@@chetmanley1885 the crazy thing is that they believe their lies..
He didnt make a moral equivalence he said those are all obstacles to peace. And they are. If you don't understand that Netanyahu is an obstacle to peace then you've never listened to a word Netanyahu has said.
Where does James find these simpletons,
Ah. A middle class, English Israeli. There you have it.
The caller from Tel Aviv had a British accent. I find it amazing how many Israelis have foreign accents I wonder why?
What's so amazing? Jewish people (whose families have been living in exile for centuries all over the world) have settled in Israel to be in the only Jewish state in the whole world. ....... and they have retained their accents!!
The caller needs to ask himself why Netanyahu, Smotrich, and Bengavir were able to take and maintain office. You can remove this leadership, but it will not solve the base problems, which are xenophobia, and a gross sense of "divine entitlement".
How these folks can speak out of both sides of their mouth with little or no shame is incredible to me. It’s like describing a sunset to them, like telling someone the time.
Caller from ' occupied Palestine' sounds like he's from London 😂😂😂😂
That's because he most likely is.
of course the side which possess overwhelming military superiority and international diplomatic cover would not want their evil plan halted by outsiders .
You would expect a group of people who suffered the most under fascism trying to avoid it at any cost. How wrong you would be!
What a despicable person the caller is.
Melvin should get his bottom back to North London. Sadly perhaps the Isrealis calling for a CEASEFIRE are not yet significant in number.
Israel has completely lost it
What about almost 80 years of brutal occupation and apartheid?! The caller is delusional
Palestine has a right to defend itself.
No point in getting rid if him now as he's pretty much killed everyone he wanted and stole their homeland. Why didn't they stop and get rid of him at the beginning when he was clearly showing and then acting out his madness.
I thought Saudis, UAE want peace. So what the eff is Melvin talking about??? What about Abraham accords??
Saudis offered peace based on two state solution but netayahoo doesn't want it.
Saudi and the UAE don't want peace, they're using the Palestinians like most of the Arab states
How can you have a generation or 2 of reeducation without a generation or two of peace and respect. apartheid will cause racism resistance Also the revised Hamas charter has called for a 2 state solution since 2017
"We hate the death toll on both sides."😆🤡
Exactly my thought. The statement is hypocrisy and relativization on steroids.
😂😂 but how many is to many to you just a simple question
This caller still in the mindset of past 7th of October
Israil intentions and lies are clear to the world to see.
You can’t play the victim and the executioner at the same time.
they can
Israeli Soldiers recently killed a 12 year old boy in West Bank bc he was playing with fireworks bc he was a threat. The Soldiers were behind a big fence, the boy was not even near them. They did not warn, just sniped him dead. With witnesses... Bengevir called that soldier "a hero"... Thats the kind of attitude we are dealing with. Its beyond any sense of sanity...
Netanyahu Out! Out! Out!
By saying that I'll probably be branded as an anti-Semite and an extremist, (under new UK Brutish rules. Oh! Was that a typo or not?🤔)
People forget that Britain caused this mess in the first place.
No we didn't forget at all
Britain behaved as if it owned Palestine . It sold it off but by bit to the Jewish Kibbutz movement
There were few Jews there in 1919..
By the 1948 there where enough Jews to form an army.
I'd say England if I were being honest. I doubt very much Scotland and Wales had any say in the matter.
A little off topic, however..
Apparently the mayor of London has given away London to his Islamic mates.
Isn't that a bit like Balfour giving away Palestine to his Jewish mates except that not SO many people got killed in theprocess?
Britain had an important role, but let’s not completely let Israel off.
“Changing course” is not about the token removal of a figurehead from a rotten system, it is about dismantling the system itself.
H@mas wants a two state solution so both James and the caller got that one wrong.
It does amuse me when people are insecure in their beliefs they have to claim the support of millions
The Palestinian understander has dialled in. Hates the death toll but doesn't care how large it gets.
The Israeli caller would be considered moderate in Israel and he is talking of sweeping reeducation camps for the indigenous people of so the settlers can peacefully steal their homes and land
Chomsky reached these conclusions in 1983 in Fateful Triangle.
Inside job Oct 7. Everything points to it. Security teams along the border had their guns taken by the IDF on September 1, On September 10, local communuty councils asked should they postpone events and were told to go ahead by the IDF. The venue for the music festival was switched at short notice from a venue away from the border without explanation. It took 8 hours for the IDF to respond. They had Blackhawk helicopters within a five minute flight of the 15 breaches in the fenceline and it took 7 hours before the first one was in the air. That chopper hit 70 vehicles without any intelligence about who was in the cars. IDF tanks hit kibbutz buildings with high exlposive rounds, killing hostages and Hamas. Netanyahu knew this was going to happen. He planned it.
I thought it was just me! I've been saying this since day 1! I totally agree with everything you say. Thank you.
The first caller can't see things beyond the end of his nose.
certainly the prime minister does not want to see the war end because he will be in trouble; he was in trouble before oct 7.
Well done James, you're an intelligent person and you also look at the wider picture. Your caller, as many isrealis do, is blindly focusing at just one aspect: hamas, hamasi, Ghamas, Hamass, Hamasssss. How comforting for them that is. No need for morality, ethics; no need for conscience.
I think more and more, Israelis, even purportedly level headed ones like this caller, will find themselves isolated from the world. The mass killing of civilians is not acceptable, period, despite whatever perceived threat there is. The fact that he cannot put a number on how many murdered civilians is acceptable, makes his political and moral position reprehensible to a majority of the rest of the world.
You don’t choose foreign governments like you’re shopping at Tesco. The US never learn
A Brit discussing with another Brit the fate of Palestine.
A poll conducted by an Israeli university in November had 90% of Israelis saying the level of force being applied in this war was just right or not enough.
"Re education" wow
It just sounds like let's blame Netanyahu now this has been going on for 75 years it's not just Netanyahu it's a whole belief system in israeli zionists society
I am yet to find a logical, Rational Zionist or Zionist Supporter. Has anyone found one?
He's right. You can't make a moral equivalence between Hamas and Netanyahu. Netanyahu is much worse.
Melvin the israeli in tel aviv, is sounds like a snobby English Englishman.
- just saying.
The world has known this for years and now are the American lawmakers that there is no difference between Netanyahu and HAMAS. Now, let the new world order begin for peace's sake 🥵.
That Israel sounds incredibly British
Love how James corrects pontificating callers who claim to know what everyone really thinks