James O'Brien pushes caller to justify why he supports Israel's tactics | LBC
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- James O'Brien probes this caller on the logic behind his support for Israel's current Gaza tactics, as the IDF apologises for killing three hostages. While the caller attempts to argue that those responsible for 'war crimes' should be 'held accountable', James argues that this is not currently happening.
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The caller's defense is that you can't blame an entire group of people for the actions of a few. Is irony lost on him?
For real he is delusional & sick in the head & heart
No irony, the IDF is after Hamas, unfortunately they live amongst the innocent.There was NO such confusion on the 7th October.
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He doesn't regard Palestinians as people
Its called Cognitive Dissonance. The propaganda has brainwashed him
He was better off just saying he doesn't care about Palestinians life instead of wasting all of our time
Agree. The mental gymnastics was unnecessary.
Exactly........just going round in circles, avoiding the obvious making a fool of himself.
A girl that survived the bombings of northern gaza was murdered in the bombing of AI Nasser hospital recently.. She died twice, the first time when her family members died in the north and now when she herself died.. in a hospital bombing, being treated from the previous bombing that took her family away... you still support this, there's no saving you.. or humanity for that matter. Her name was Donya Abu Mohsen.
I agree, people need to stop being so cautious and scared of shouty plastecine supporters. Truth is, if you put a Jew next door to an Englishman in 2023 and no problems, put a Palestinian next door and community is all down hill from there, they don’t live the same as us
@@Hartley-jo8nz You put an israeli next door to a palestinian and you'll end up being in an open air controlled prison.
It is so bone chilling listening to caller after caller talking about this issue like as if it is just pest control. You can clearly tell that these callers don't even regard the people in Gaza as humans. And they speak this out loud. And on air. 😢
The utterly casual racism is incredible.
This is hsppening because of the USA supporting this israel. They feel enbolden to do all of these atrocities because they know the USA won't allow other countries to intervene as they should.
Propaganda and indoctrination is undefeated.
Words like 'eradicated' and 'get rid of'
Mate, absolutely spot on
It gives me nightmares to think I live in the same world as this guy.
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I’d say Johnny is more ignorant that evil
That's how I feel listening to James Hamas O'Brien.
@@DelUK72 He speaks the absolute truth it’s probably why you get frustrated 😉😉
@@jameskhan1227 Does he really? or are you just easily brainwashed by his opinions.
Guess you also think Owen Jones talks the truth also.
I bet you think Oct 7th never happened either.
This caller is missing the point, and it's a F###### big point.The IDF are not held to account.
The caller would not comprehend that even if it were explained to him 30 times..
Absolute nonsense!!
yes, "NEVER" and that is the problem.
I blame US and us the UK we keep supporting Israel and it has violated over 60 UN resolutions starting as an illegal occupation then apartheid and now this horror.
@@ru76224 Yes he is too brainwashed
Johnny doesn't realise that he is an extremist.
Probably a Zionista
yoni
Jonny doesn't realise he has the cranial capacity of 2 cubic centimetres
Ignorance level: 99999999⁹
Can't wake up those who are pretending to be asleep
And we should ignore the IDFs frequent attacks on Gaza over the past 40 years. And the West Bank. And Lebanon.
The pattern of opportunist expansion and violent displacement still isn’t seen by some.
@@mynewcolour Because the mainstream media doesn't really report on it, let alone even try to present the reality of it on the ground for the human beings - men, women and children - caught up in it. Larger geo-political aims trump (no pun intended) the continued existence of a couple of million pesky Palestinians. Those aims seem to outweigh International Law in its various forms, too, which doesn't bode well for any of us. That path didn't serve us well the last time. It won't this time either.
@@mynewcolourIt’s literally as easy as looking at how Palestinian land has been consistently shrinking over the last half-century. Israel’s genocidal intent is so unbelievably obvious, yet people still want to act like they’re victims. Total ignorance.
Are we going to ignore everything that happened on October 7th? The rapes, beheadings, and other very barbaric acts?
How many times has Israel been invaded?
Racism and prejudice is a helluva drug.
Yeah man 10% are obsessed with it, the other 90% laugh at the terms. Welcome to the UK 2024. That ship sailed after BLM
best comment.
It's not a war, it's a massacre. Get your facts straight Johnny
And you feel like war is anything else but massacre?
@@kopeducati It is but between two military sides. That's not the case here.
Can't wake up those who are pretending to be asleep
Israel is fully justified in its war effort. It’s the only country in modern history to have the responsibly of warning their enemies before attacking. No other country facing comparable threats has ever undertaken such drastic measures. Israel is fighting Hamas, who intentionally hides amongst civilians and purposefully hopes for casualties, so Israel will face international condemnation. It’s the epitome of terrorism. The civilized world will never support Islamic jihadism. Period.
@@kopeducati You feel as though war should come with a cost of over triple the amount of civilians killed compared to combatants?
Geneva convention what?
When you try to justify the killing of 7,000 children there is something wrong with you, the caller would never try to justify the killing of 7,000 Israeli children but somehow palestenin children are deemed less.
Hamas figures..Nobody knows correct figures
@@scot6120 The true figure is likely higher, sadly
@@GhostFitzKilla What's Hamas's motive for underestimating?
@@scot6120 Sadly, dear, we have the evidence of our own eyes, plus the verified figures of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians slaughtered by Israel since 1948. Casualty and death figures that have be accepted by the UN and the Israeli authorities themselves as reliable for decades. But hey, the disinformation keeps you happy, so there is that.
Nobody justifies killing children. But you have to ask the question of blame. Hamas is using civilian infrastructure and started a war which are the initial war crimes and the reason why this happens. It doesn’t give them immunity and it is clear who is to blame for the death of children - Hamas.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Thank you James for exposing the sheer lack of humanity people like this have
IOF forced my family out of their own house after they killed my brother an unleashed their dog on my cousin. When my father went back later with my other brother. They shot him too and injured my father! I lost two brothers. They had nothing to do with Hamas.
Put your trust in Allah,
May Allah reward you
I so sorry, as a white British woman I have been on 2 pro Palestinian in October London. It sickening listening to caller's like this repeatedly saying the same thing! The IDF justified every thing killing with the words Hamas might be there. I'm not an expert but even I knew Israel would go over the top after October 7 but I never thought they would go this low.
Imagine hearing about all this, and your first reaction would be "I must ring up and defend the country commiting war crimes"
Absolutely bonkers
Real lack of empathy. People seem to support one side or another, as if it were a football team, ignoring the real lives caught in the middle. I don't know how someone could look at the pictures coming out of Gaza and suggest that the dead somehow deserved their fate. It's ghoulish.
But the Israelis are not committing war crims. It's hamas and other Palestinians that are doing that. You seem to be supporting the ones that actually are committing the war crimes.
@@GretsGarbo how much do you know of war crimes?
I am starting to think they feed them some sort of substances that makes them inhuman and insensitive to atrocities. This is beyond bearable!
Crazy world my brother
Weird how so many people think Israel is not responsible for its own actions
Weird how many ppl don’t think that Hamas should be held responsible for their disgusting actions.
@@boobopishand what has that got to do with the 20,000 dead Gazans and three dead Israeli hostages?
I.e. piers Morgan
With the 1500 jews who were violated and mutilated after death with their perpetrators celebrating for the whole world to see, with their populations mind you. Not exactly the innocent kind of civilian. Along with the fact that Hamas hides military targets behind their own civilian population. @@Tamarlane389
@@boobopish So you agree that Hamas should be held responsible for what they did, and Israel should be held responsible for what they are doing?
Thank you James for exposing the thought patterns of unintelligent people.
I am not anti-Jewish, anti-Semitic but I am 100% against Israel’s prolonged persecution of the Palestinian people. For sure, Hamas’s acts of terrorism were wrong but they were the result of year’s long oppression of the Palestinian people.
no they werent, they were the result of their ideology of destroying the jewish state
Should've stopped at "For sure, Hamas's acts of terrorism were wrong" adding "but they were the results of year's long oppression of the Palestinian people" just seems like you're trying to justify it. Both Hamas and Israel can be wrong at the same time.
Why would you have to say you’re not antisemitic if you call out Israeli crimes… tell me why?
There's no "but" in that last sentence. Hamas’s acts of terrorism were wrong. That's it. Israel’s prolonged persecution of the Palestinian people is also wrong. The UN should've stepped in decades ago and their pathetic, spineless inaction is also wrong. All of this is on every organization involved. There's no "yeah but" in any of it.
@@MahkyVmedia1He is not defending Hamas, he is stating why it happened (according to him/her, and me btw). It is a fact that Oct 7th happened because of recent Israeli incursion inside the Al Aqsa mosque. The IDF threw fireworks inside the mosque while people were praying. Israel provokes incessantly, just so Palestinians will react, and then use that reaction to expand settlements and bombard Gaza. If they are bombarded all the same, would you not want to take revenge. Im not justifying them, Im helping you understand. Google "r@in cist3rn l@ws" in the West Bank. I had to censor it, because TH-cam autodeletes comments with those words. You will see the extent of evil a certain nation will go to, for no real reason, just to make life miserable for the indigenous people.
No IDF soldier gets punished, the caller is a liar.
I know of 12 personally
They are, in fact, rewarded.
@@An-Alien-On-Earthyou mean slaps on the wrist and fake lectures
@@An-Alien-On-EarthNames? links?
@@An-Alien-On-Earth name them 😂 and also give us what they were charged with and what was the punishments ? Dates also please 😂
Jonny - as ‘thick’ as those IDF soldiers that shot the 3 Israeli hostages!
Excellent questioning James!
Listening to these folks is an eye-opener! They're so caught up in their faulty logic, they don't see how they're damaging their own cause. But hey, it's great - the more they talk, the more people see through the propaganda. They're helping everyone realize just how much misinformation is out there. Keep talking, guys, you're actually doing us a favor!
Wow, some people and their blind support for Israel no matter what they do, this is sad.
Using civilians as human shields is a war crime. Targeting civilians is a war crime. Targeting genuine military targets is not. During war civilians unfortunately die, its referred to as collateral damage. Its only a war crime if there targeted directly.
It shows how evil they really are
it is sad how blind people are
Same for blind Palestinian support.
Evil is a lack of empathy, the dehumanisation of the other.
Wikipedia: The Dahiya doctrine (1), or Dahya doctrine, is a military strategy of asymmetric warfare, outlined by former Israel Defense Forces (IDF) Chief of General Staff Gadi Eizenkot, which encompasses the destruction of the civilian infrastructure of regimes deemed to be hostile as a measure calculated to pressure combatants, and endorses the employment of "disproportionate force" (compared to the amount of force used by the enemy) to secure that end.
1. "From War to Deterrence? Israel-Hezbollah Conflict Since 2006". Authored by Dr. Jean-Loup Samaan. Archived from the original on 12 January 2015.
Shame on US & EU government for calling themselves human right defender
If you live in the US and aren’t brainwashed you know the US hasn’t been a human rights defender since it’s inception.
Who defends them? Putin? Xi? Modi? Who defends human rights?
It’s our Governments, in US 66 % of American support a cease fire and we support a democratic state for Palestine. We condemn the war crimes against innocent civilians.
@@pinky6758 half the EU.
Sorry to be picky but the EU is not a government. It is a trading block comprised of 27 countries, each with their own government.
James O Brien is a beast 👌🏾👌🏾🍉🇵🇸 calling out the hypocrisy
James on the right side of history on this one.
How does James have such patience when he talks to such insane people?
Hats off to the man.
Because he has full confidence that he is speaking Truth.
Cos its his job
He really has very little patience and thinks he is correct all the time .
Well, it makes me laugh, because if he doesn't agree, then he doesn't let them speak. I totally agree with what James said (and often says), but I'm not quite sure of the purpose of the phone in is - well, apart from letting people fall into the trap (so to speak).
This caller sounds like a sociopath, absolutely no problem with the deaths of innocent people….
No. It is seeing things in black and white.
I think he is just so conditioned by nationalist propaganda he cannot see reality. He cannot handle the cognitive dissonance.
You can hear his heart rate bubbling every time he gets corrected
Average zionist
@@jackbutt8774 no, he's not extreme enough
You are brilliant James
I was in agony hearing this uninformed caller arguing in support of IDF killings of civilians then I realised is just another one of those blind fools.
Netanyahu in English: we are fighting for western values like democracy & freedom.
Netanyahu in Hebrew: we are fighting for greater israel & I know how to lie to American people in English 😀🤣
Otzma Yehudit, or “Jewish Power,” is, in fact, just the newest face of the old Kach party, the radical movement founded decades ago by the late Rabbi Meir Kahane, the most infamous Jewish extremist of the latter 20th century. Kahane was an American, born in Brooklyn. In fact, before he left for Israel in 1971, Kahane founded the Jewish Defense League (JDL), one of the most prolific U.S.-based terrorist groups of the 1970s and 1980s. The JDL may be the only indigenous U.S. terrorist group that successfully migrated abroad, fomenting instability, radicalization, and violence in its new host state
so true!
I’m a South African and I can attest to the fact that this war is worse than the apartheid I lived through. It’s the most disgusting form of humanity there is. Apartheid has always been lurking in so many corners of this planet and it pains me to say that this is just another example of the lie apartheid creates. There is no accountability from any side, from my experience even when this war is over there will be no one held accountable for these atrocities. Everyone will blame everyone. Even 29 years of our independence we still suffer amongst each other we fight for a freedom that might never be realized. The world does not change it only puts on a different mask. 😢
I certainly agree. I think that supporters of the Palestinians should consider dropping the apartheid comparison, because what Israel is doing right now is indisputably worse than anything the apartheid regime in South Africa had ever done.
@@Alex-vk9rx True as that may be, it's still apartheid.
@purrple.shadows Indeed. Apartheid is Apartheid. One scenario may be worse than the other, but the essence is the same. One dog may be bigger than another dog, but it is still a dog.
Apartheid south africa is where the word was created but for actual south africans we see its worse
It's NOT a war,Palestinians do not have an Army or a country
Previously, I have had close friends/Business partners who were Jewish/Israeli, even Zionist. But today, to witness the superiority, the cruelty, the pure hatred, fascism, racism, narcissism, and manipulation. The opposition, the absolute rage I feel at my very core at what these people are doing is beyond words.
Sad when someone outlines the
hypocrisy for you and you can't
see it through your veil of
unbased outrage...
The only people left still defending this just sound completely unhinged and detached from reality
People still support trump too so nothing really surprises me anymore. People love being a part of a cult.
Hamas are supporting it. They started it and want it to continue. All they have to do is release the hostages and stop firing rockets into Israel. But we all know they are totally unhinged.
Happy to defend Israel, I'm not unhinged
@@ppo2424The post was meant for human beings not animals.
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Always playing the victims, even at this stage where the whole world can see through their lies....
Exactly!
Can't wake up those who are pretending to be asleep
They are a menace to the rest of the world.
That is so true! Culminating in blackmailing the world with the Holocaust, which is their way of ensuring they get away with anything.
Legend has it the caller is still thinking about what James said at the end.
Zero empathy on part of the caller. I seriously doubt that his opinion would the same if he was in Gaza getting bombed, losing family members and not knowing what tomorrow brings other than more bombs.
Actually, I think James should ask the caller before he starts, "Are you Jewish?" Then we know that the caller will not be objective.
Johnny has his story wrong. The last IDF soldier who "executed" a Palistinian gunman after he was disarmed and laying on the ground face down (in custody), was not charged by Israeli court's but instead released as a hero.
The story is online and well documented.
It's clear that Johnny hasn't got a clue what he's talking about. It's quite disturbing that someone can be so ignorant.
He would say, i was talking about a different incident, if you think they will be accountable for their lies, you're mistaken
Happens all the time....
This is what happens when someone doesn't realize that they're being fed biased drivel by their media. They think what Izzy does is on the level and legitimate
Johnny is on the payroll
Just because you don’t like someone, or a people, it doesn’t give you the right to dehumanise them and treat the entire population as guilty.
Yes, Morally and legally.
Best and most articulated comment so far, my compliments to you, whoever you are👍
Israel was the reward for the suffering of a populace in WW2. What is the reward for the palestinians?
It's called "war."
Easier said than done.
Exactly!! NONE have been held accountable for killing their own!!!!
Refugee camp bombed as suspected one Hamas person there?
It wasn’t confirmed that any Hamas member was killed.
So remind us again of what punishment the IDF soliders faced who have targeted and killed members of the press - even when it is clear they are wearing full blue press vests and helmets ?
The press are killed in all wars.
So, remind me. What evidence do you have that the IDF has targeted any of the international Press?
I'll wait.
They were ordered to do 20 pushups as punishment....
Some members of the 'international press'. actually, those from the Arab press have been passing on information to the Hamas terror groups. Innocent actors, and objective journalists, they are not.
They were probably promoted
Imagine if what Israel is doing was done by an Arab country or an Asian country then i am sure the world would be horrified and call them terrorist. I am independent of this war, but watching it from a distance makes me sick to the core as to what Israel is doing to Palestinians 😢
Technically, Israel is an Asian country.
Imagine if it was England or Canada. There would be international outrage
Are you kidding?! You don't need to imagine it if you actually do your homework.
@@lordvadertheleftie9703 Like the West hasn't done that before...
@@lordvadertheleftie9703 erm..iraq?lybia?
I am gonna leave you to think about what Johnny !
Thank you James 🙏🏼
I think China is right. The root of the tragedy is because the Palestinians independence has been ignored too long and the Palestinians have suffered too much under their neighbour’s cruel treatment. The idea of two states might not be ideal, but it seems that China’s approach is the best possible solution for time being.
Why does every Israeli supporter call Palestinians terrorists ??
No knowledge of this history? To lazy to look it up?
For the same reason that many call the Italians mafia gangsters
if it walks like a duck and quacks,its probably a duck
To ease their conscience.
@@AlexDrastico380that’s odd, we have plenty of Italians in London, never heard a single person being called a mafia or a gangster 😂
Thank you James for standing on the right side of humanity
And Wokeism.
@@norwoodboy6048 just be a human can call out war crimes should not be too difficult. Sick of genocidal cheerleaders stop it at once surely we live in a civilised world where law has some meaning and not just about who is allowed to get away with what. This is what has lead us here over 60 UN resolutions violated by isreal if law was enforced we would not be seeing any of this
Woke = anti-human
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Define your term, so we can converse.
is he, as from where I am which is remaining objective, you sure he isn't standing where he gets the most engagement from the sheep that follow his every word like he's a woke saviour? Selective champagne outrage at it's best. Where's his outrage on Yemen UK made bombs being dropped for years killing civilians? *Crickets*
Like listening to a serial killer.
I guess Johnny never heard of the terrorist bombings done by the Jews against the British before we left in 1947.
James, you should have asked Johnny about the 27 children killed in the West Bank by the IDF on June 2023 (4 months prior to 7th October). The world is behaving as if the Middle East was created on the morning of 7th October.
If someone's heart is full of hate toward one side he wouldn't see truth even if it's so clear.
Because the eyes are not blind but the hearts.
@@servantofallah5535 yeah like keeping innocent hostages abducted from their homes
it's called dogma.
@@LeeJames2024IS israel have been driving Palestinians out of their land since 1948 not to mention butchering them
@@adamllana1443 that land was never been palestine
Thank you Sir for putting him in his place. He cannot answer a direct question most of the time. He twisted it to his ways.
Sickening apologists for this IDF barbarism coming out of the woodwork.
And if the Israelis haven’t shown enough disregard for Muslim Palestinians this caller shows the level of respect for Christian people aswell as their own hostages . Riding such high horses
At this point anyone still turning a blind eye to Israel's war crimes are simply people who believe in the ethno-religious supremacy of Jewish people and are simply holding that view in.
Wikipedia: The Dahiya doctrine (1), or Dahya doctrine, is a military strategy of asymmetric warfare, outlined by former Israel Defense Forces (IDF) Chief of General Staff Gadi Eizenkot, which encompasses the destruction of the civilian infrastructure of regimes deemed to be hostile as a measure calculated to pressure combatants, and endorses the employment of "disproportionate force" (compared to the amount of force used by the enemy) to secure that end.
1. "From War to Deterrence? Israel-Hezbollah Conflict Since 2006". Authored by Dr. Jean-Loup Samaan.
Archived from the original on 12 January 2015.
@@NavM23thx for that footnote.
Christian Palestinians are being killed too and their places of worship are being destroyed aswell
So Dahiya docteine is basically an escalation docteine?
omg. this is incredible. he nailing him perfectly with he's own stupidity
That’ caller is absolutely disgusting.
Omg didnt know. Seen listings but never touched. Now i know u have got a brain which is intelligent. Will definitely listern in. 👍
I read on the interwebs that Hamas terrorists were hiding in Johnny's basement, you know what to do guys...
Sorry Johnny you are a human shield now😂
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Honestly what this conflict has shown is that there are millions of people are WAY more bloodthirsty than the world thought and those people are unwilling to come to terms with the horrifying beliefs they have.
I have never heard of James O'Brien being an Aussie and all but he's so patient and willing to listen to these numpties. You are awesome!
He literally interrupts him before he can answer any of his questions. One of my criticisms of O'Brien (and I say that as a fan).
thank you james. one daily mail reader at a time
When injustice becomes law, then RESISTANCE becomes DUTY.
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Yeah.. it’s been great for them so far..
The biggest lie told in this conflict is that if Palestinians keep fighting they will get everything they want.
It’s not going to happen.. they lost. It’s over.
The entire world stood silent and ignored the Palestinian plight for 7 decades. Now people are finally at least acknowledging what is happening there. They got what they wanted, if Israel is going to erase Palestine then they have to do it publicly@@elcristoph7380
Exactly
This!
We are grateful for the likes of John, who highlight so emphatically who Israel is and the type of people who support this odious regime and what it represents.
Support ? What do you think this is a football match ? Just what do you expect a nation of people to do if every country that surrounds them has sworn to destroy them ?
Judging by the way you've punctuated your sentence and the example you chose probably thinking 'support' only applies to sporting events. Then capping it with one of your dogmatic talking points that we are all so tired of hearing as your side repeats them ad nauseam, I'd say; you have proved my point better than I could articulate.
So thank you for the assistance. And so please allow me to return the favor. Gone are the days when the world believed uncritically the nonsensical talking points of the right to self-defense, and the victimhood narrative. There is one occupier, namely; Israel one occupied, namely; the Palestinians. One oppressor and one oppressed people. Now, the sooner you understand this the better for those whom you're defending.
Lastly, have you ever wondered why, according to your statement, a country exists where "every country that surrounds them has sworn to destroy them"?
A thinking person would pause and reflect on this, not double down on their action. @@rolandhawken6628
@@martinallan5331an elected government who are openly genocidal towards jews sent its teopps to invade another country.
They started the war and then hid behind women and children.
If hamas are not taking out then this entire process will happen again in a few years.
Hamas uses money to buy weapons to use against israel instead of building so.e i frastructure.
They are openly genocidal against the people who keep their power and water supplies running for the people they are supposed to govern because they are to busy planning attacks.
What should israel do then?stop and let hamas regroup so they can start a war again?
@@rolandhawken6628if they vow to destroyed him why they dont attack thé same Time with hamas
@@rolandhawken6628what do you expect you think colonizing a country will be this easy of course allies will intervene
Caller 8s wrong immediately! They soldier busted shooting a wounded , prone , unarmed man in the head was given a slap on the wrist and celebrated as a hero by his countrymen. Get your story straight. Caller.
Wow; Mr O Brian, you have been blessed with the ability to debate in an articulate manner which is seldom seen or heard in todays world. Chappow, Chappow
The Pope in Rome is describing IDF actions as terrorism, Netanyahu disputes, but the Catholic Archbishop in Jerusalem confirms it as terrorism. So, who is telling the truth?
The Catholics hate the Jews, so what would you expect the Pope and the Bishop of Jerusalem to say ?
Caller has no soul
Right wing news channels in US : you can have your freedom of speech thing on our show as long as you dont criticize israeli war crimes 😀
Yeah so democratic talking points😅
Do you remember after the 7th October when we were screaming that you can’t let Israel go batsh1t crazy in Gaza because it will be horrendous for the Palestinian people ? Do you recall what the response of politicians and well known media presenters was across the board ? “We support Israel’s right to defend itself. We support Israel’s right to defend itself”. Maybe I just imagined it,
That was what broke me over this. When I heard what happened I felt sick to my stomach. The act itself was horrible. What was coming next was horrible -- I knew Israel would take this opportunity to ethnically cleanse its ghetto if not outright liquidate it. I knew there would be a reactionary backlash that rallied around Israel, and that any critics would be branded antisemites. I knew it would be ordinary Palestinians that would inordinately suffer and die. And I knew there was nothing that was going to change this outcome.
I don't know which is worse, the knowing or the being right.
No you didn't imagine it, whenever I hear western politician's say " Israel has the right to defend itself " the outcome is always the same .The death of thousands of innocent Women, and Children. Future generations will look back and find it incomprehensible.
The penny has dropped but its too late. And now the survivors of Gaza are a traumatised bereaved nation who will, unfortunately, be in that same position again as history has shown us. Its utterly heartbreaking and unjust
How do they have a right to defend themselves? Their the invaders? Occupiers colonizers! So what everyone was saying was the murdering rapists has a right to defend themselves if their victims do anything?
Agreed, they even fired an Mp didn't they? For wanting a ceasefire at the start.
The cognitive dissonance in Israeli supporters is absolutely terrifying.
I gotta say James... This was well done. You allowed the caller to say his piece without letting him slide. You didn't let him rest comfortably in his hypocrisy or the platitudes he used to make himself feel better about supporting Israel's atrocities. Thank you for that.
How does 30,000 hammas fighters prevent 2.2 million people from leaving their homes , while bombs are falling from the sky ? There’s no logic in some people
all the videos of the dead civilians are edited to remove hamas fighters from the picture. AI mate
Ya like in you
@@mes382 lol hamas underground ai altering every independent journalists instagram posts and tiktoks
Do you deny hamas killing civilians who are attempting to flee Gaza?
@@FerreusNRG Until I've seen proof, yes. Do you happen to have such a proof?
Thank you for your standing up with humanity
What? Supporting Hamas?
@@woowah32majority of the world supports resistance buddy, only UK USA and few European countries don't, learn the facts.
Even the UK, USA and Europe don't support them it's only those who are being lobbied or the like normal people are against oppression
Funnily enough a poll by the Jerusalem Post following the attack in October showed that 80% of Israelis DID blame Israel for the Hamas attack or more specifically they blamed Netanyahu.
Johnny says "Hold my Beer" just as he trips over his tongue and drops it on the floor.
Many thanks James doing what you do best. You're the best presenter on LBC by a country mile, your BSometer is streets ahead of your colleagues. Apologies for making light of an extremely depressing situation.
What baffles me is that some people don't understand that every civilian killed, gives birth to new packs of 'terrorists', their children, their family members, neighbours etc. Why is that math so hard to fathom? Picture your own lives, if someone killed your innocent parents, brother, sister or anyone you cared deeply about, wouldn't you want to inflect the same pain back? The hate spreads, and understandably so. As vengeance breads vengeance, but justice trumps all. There are real problems in that region, but clearly indiscriminate killings is not the way as not only it breads more hatred within the region, but also around the world. Let's stop sleep walking into ending civilizations.
That is one group of people. Another group of people will blame hamas for bringing the war in gaza for no reason. Another will also blame Israel but they will see it is a mouse fighting a lion so it is time to let go. Another will be grateful to Israel because they don't like hamas. There is never one response from different human beings to an event. According to how things go before and after the war it is hard to say which group will be stronger.
It's about understanding there are factions, and all factions have bad faith ideologies. It's about being crystal clear and objective when identifying those bad faith ideologies within our own factions to have a chance at solving others. The trouble is that the population in that region are plagued with vengeance, and it's hard to reason with people who are possessed by vengeance. We need great leaders to step up and fight for humanity, as it seems "what is humane?" is under question these days.@@johnwinchesterp2963
It doesn't normally last forever. There's been in peace in Bosnia since 1995 following a terrible war. There's no Chechen terrorism against Russia following a war. Northern Ireland is peaceful. Eventually a peaceful solution has to be found.
There's quite difference between freedom fighters and terrorist. If you steal someone's land don't expect them to not fight back.and remember it took Algeria 132 years to get their liberation
@@rahma8706 It might have taken them longer if taking over France was part of the deal.
James, Thank you for saying it as it is and calling for these ignorant people out. You are the true voice of sanity in all of this.
Sanity..... Chuckles.....
You would say that
Yes, I would. And I'll keep saying it.
@@An-Alien-On-Earth what’s wrong with what he said, he gave him facts and the mumbling Johnny didn’t have any educated answers or reality, think the last question James asked him says it all !
The caller is just totally biased and not willing to accept the truth
This didn’t start October 7 , it’s the result of 75 years of apartheid state of Israel
The amount of mental gymnastics johnny has to do to support israel is exhausting and astounding. Johnny choose humanity, u will be mentally relieved and at peace.
My goodness this is so disturbing? People have lost their humanity…
This is about which team you’re on and their ego at this point. They don’t care if the side they’re supporting is committed multiple war crimes against humanity they’d rather double down with their support than admit that they’re wrong it’s genuinely and literally sad to witness.
Lost their humanity??? They never had humanity
You hit the nail on the head there. This caller is a fine example of someone who is just taking a side and sticking with it even though the facts are staring him in the face!
@@jefferybarefield6372 fair enough I unfortunately expected humans to act like humans
The time of debate and discussion if gone,as you said it is all about the sides you pick nowadays, very scary for the future.
Was the Hamas attack a war crime? 75% voted for them
No reply from any of you people? Thought not.
We live in an age where you have access to so much information and data and yet people are more blinded, more confused or should I say more hypocritical than ever. It doesn't matter what the caller believes. The sheer amount of video footage of the destruction in Gaza you can't just ignore.
I wonder if some of it with these people is they are "operating out of the old paradigm" - so to speak.
In other words they are still "living" in that world before all of the direct, nearly instant video, etc. was available - as you stated - when "plausable deniability" - of a sort - was still in effect.
I also think these people don't seem (don't want?) to fully understand is how small Gaza is. It is nearly impossible to separate Hamas from civilians & the indiscriminate bombing of everything/everybody - nearly 24/7 for 210 days now - guarantees civilian deaths. The Israeli govt knows it, the IDF knows it & Israeli citizens know it! This guy doesn't get it.
'Imagine if we had Hamas on our border'... Not drawing direct parallels but Northern Ireland didn't quite get the treatment Gaza is currently getting. End all colonization!
Thanks James for telling the truth
I hope your being sarcastic
@@adgepeterb The only person sarcastic is you SMH 🤦🏻♂️
@@adgepeterb...lol to you
This is very true. I live in France but, for the first time in 17 years, I recently had to return to the UK for a funeral. What i found was that it was practically impossible to have a serious discussion about the relationship between the UK and France/EU because almost everyone i spoke to was simply regurgitating the lies and misinformation that they had picked up from social media and the Tory press. Frankly I was glad to get away. But, on a less personal note, what will happen to the future of democracy if it continues to be influenced by these falsehoods.
What's your point?
@@dAssasin355Rather obvious I would have thought.
1/3rd of the electorate are just mentally damaged because of Brexit
China and the credit system will happen. A security dystopia
I agree, it is like talking to a brick wall at times, mostly because they don't think for themselves.
This show is refreshing. I appreciate not letting the caller simply spew nonsense.
It’s worrying how the lives of innocent Palestinians are just an afterthought to so many who blindly support Israel’s actions. And the mental gymnastics required to maintain that position of support are nothing short of extraordinary.
Just can't believe these callers who are given agenda to read same lines over and over but have no sympathy for innocent civilians.
if october 7th wasnt justified by anything before it happened, then it doesnt justify anything after it happened
A brilliant point
Exactly!
Can't wake up those who are pretending to be asleep
It was all propaganda- the IDF did more than half the killing and there was never any proof of atrocities. The entire thing was a false flag set up by Netanyahu
Spot on
As I keep watching these interviews I came to realize that our moral compass is very subjective, and it depends a lot on what information we know, independent interviews like these, with a true and elaborted journalism, from professionals, help in informing people, and hopefully will help in converging the moral compass of everyone towards the same thing.
James O'Brien is my new hero ! .. lol
In the time he was calmly explaining what sanity is, I would've easily suffered 2 strokes, 3 cardiac arrests, & 5 irreversible vasovagal syncopes ,,,
Thank you James for holding everybody into account 👍
Well done James. Thank you for standing up for humanity. 🙇♂️👏👍
Very well put. I only wish you had confronted him on his claim that 20 000 Hamas fighters have been killed and asked him whether he counts all the dead children as Hamas fighters.
Me too! Johnny got away with an absolute made-up stat.
No fuel, medicine or food for Gaza, says Israel
What astonishes me more than people's views is their lack of self-awareness in thinking they can call this programme and not make fools of themselves
That is because they select people who can't articulate their views sensibly . The whole programme is stage managed to make poorly educate look foolish , what astonishes me is that so few people unlike you don't realise this .
@@rolandhawken6628 that's irrelevant to my point
It's almost as if they are selected on purpose to make the presenter look intelligent 🤷♂️
@@darreno2428 You are correct that is how it works ,this type of show is a watered down version of Jerry Springer only freaks allowed . It is in reality quite evil exploiting the ill informed and uneducated for entertainment .
Poor old johnny isn't the sharpest tool in the box
The majority around me thinks like Johnny
There's no one more frustrating to talk to, listen to or morally bankrupt as an Israel fanatic.
“The British did it as well”
Possibly the worst excuse I’ve heard so far for excusing war crimes.
The IDF have stated they are going to "hug" the soldiers who shot the hostages! That's hardly holding anyone accountable or discouraging others to be less trigger-happy.
This didn't start on October 7th. Palestinians have been suffering even before 1948. Many villages were wiped out and people massacred systematically ever since. The sad part is that there are many people who are ignorant misinformed just like Johnny.