Star Trek: Picard Season 2, Episode 1 - re:View
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มี.ค. 2022
- Your favorite Midwestern Morons™ are back! It's Mike and Rich here to complain about their favorite complain to complain about Star Trek: Picomplain! Will they likes it? Was they hate it? Don't it matter? Nobody will remember this show in a year after the bombs fall and we all hunt each other for food and shelter.
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More anticipated than Star Trek Picard season 2: some guys talking about Star Trek Picard season 2
I wish this wasn’t true.
Some guys? Why how dare you call famous celebrities like Rich Evans just some guy.
Thank god Mike and Rich are sitting through Picard Season 2 so we don't have to.
...by far
I will never watch Picard, but I will certainly watch this
I bet when Allison Pill said "I'm half in the bag, anyway." Mike pointed at the TV like DiCaprio.
They said the thing! I clapped when I heard it!
Very cool.
There's no chance the Picard writers don't watch RLM, change my mind.
I like to believe the writers are actually clueless, and are truly grateful for the guidance these reviews provide. This show is a big part of why I still watch Picard.
Growing up, my dad wasn't really around, but Jean-Luc Picard taught me everything I needed to know to become a man. He was basically my dad. But after watching season 1 of Picard, I think it's time to put dad in a home.
Me but with Spider-Man
In fact, on his next birthday Patrick Stewart will be the oldest human being in recorded history at 145 years young.
I thought, after watching season 01, you realized, that you were becoming A WOMAN?!
😫😫😹
@Cristo Alba I'm so glad I clinged onto Spider-Man as a kid. His morals deadass raised me as a wee man. Only issue is everything is my fault in my mind.
Can you imagine working as a bartender for 700 years
Yeah
A fate worse than death
I cannot
Better than being a host on The View
The fact when Q said "let me catch up" then snapped his fingers, and he didn't turn into a menards halloween skeleton is the greatest missed joke in TV history.
I said to myself when they showed that scene "he should've turned into a comical skeleton"
Because it's something that Q would do
stop suggesting much better ideas that would have redeemed the entire second season no matter where it ends up
Pro tip: Kurtzman has no sense of humour. Nor dramatic timing, nor scientific consistency, nor any kind of common sense whatsoever.
@@captainunderpants200 Even reveal of Q just felt off. Held way too long on Picard's slow turn reaction, Q firing off old familiar lines off camera by himself at the end of the hall, followed by a hamfisted 'you're older than i imagined'. Aiming for a fan service dramatic reveal and just feeling like a fan film that doesn't understand how to shoot a scene.
Well there's no accounting for taste. I'm saying the writing and the cuts felt blunt and unnatural - it's not a feeling one gets watching well-produced content by editors and filmmakers who understand how to execute scenes. That nag in your head that takes you out of it and makes you think 'what was the deal with that cut'. I'm perfectly happy to acknowledge that not all viewers require the same degrees of nuance from their content.
The Jay off camera laughter always brings joy to my soul.
I love how they will never stop trying to drag Jay into ST shit he gives two shits about.
It really does just double the funny when he’s off camera
If I didn't have the subtitle when he was laughing I would've thought that was a freaky door closing
Would have been funny if after all the explanation, he just said “I don’t care.”
The best part was when he immediately turned the lights off.
I love the concept that Jay is just sorta hanging around offscreen in Hell.
He's probably always around nearby during these episodes with Mike and Rich. Somebody has to be taking care of the cameras and sound levels and whatnot.
He's holding a little pitchfork and wearing a red leotard.
I love how Picard in the trailer says "to save the future we must repair the past" when TNG has multiple episodes about how ridiculously tricky, dangerous, and sometimes impossible it is to do that. Picard should be like "fuck that we're not trying that shit again, I was 30 years younger and had a cabinet of officers who were geniuses when we attempted that and we still fucked it up".
Oh no, it's going to be another stupid time travel plot. I hate time travel, such a lazy writer's trick to surprise the audience. Because of the paradox they can pick whatever choice they please. And also it makes it so nothing matters, anything can change in some future episode, when they time travel to fix it, if the writers want.
So Lame!
Time Travel almost ruined the far superior (that Star Trek and all others) Babylon 5 too. But they handled it pretty well there. Instead of affecting the current plot, they just made it a tongue in cheek wink to the past events that we never really see.
@@Albtraum_TDDC it didn't originally. The end of the series was going to be the Shadows winning and Sinclair going back in time to then previous war to win it more decisively so they weren't as strong. That is what's seen when Sheridan bounces around time and see B5 overwhelmed. After that the time travel was going to book end the series as Sinclair goes back once the second war is fought to be there for the first but the actor had to leave the series and Sheridan got brought in allowing that resolution to happen mid series when Sinclair was healthy enough to briefly return.
@@nektulosnewbie that sounds awful.
Got any proof/links?
@@Albtraum_TDDC No, it's kicking around the internet about it's development. There was also another early ending where Sinclair wins the war, then retires to a planet to fish alone shunned and unnoticed by a lot of people which developed into the later ideas introduced with Sebastion's testing of Delenn and Sheridan to see they were doing it out of a desire for fame and glory.
@@nektulosnewbie there's a lot of made up stuff (lies) around the internet. I'm not buying this.
M. J. S. is trying to make a reboot /remake so we'll see how that goes.
Will Wheaton calling it the golden age of star trek was 100% written for him.
I'd call now the "golden age for humanity" if the paycheck was large enough.
Wil lost all geek cred a long time ago.
A long time...
Now, he is more shill than man.
So cringe. I think I cringed so hard I got a foot cramp.
Did his character die in TNG? I think he also wants to be cast back on Picard lol. Unless they already cameo'd him this season.
He sounds utterly unhinged.
"I'm over a thousand Picard, eventually time comes even for me."
Done. Even flowered it up a bit to make it Guinan-y.
well done! yeah, no reason aging can't accelerate closer to the end. though she hasn't aged that much, they really didn't need to mention it at all.
Oh, snap bro! She could have used, "Time is the fire in which we burn.". A line from another of her race from ST: Generations.
"We age slowly, but we still age." Trying to find the quickest way to say it that isn't crap. Plus, there's a little sass in it.
She doesn't even look that much older, she just got fat. These writers still managed to choose the worst solution for basically a non problem.
@@Edmures_rampant_manhood "My race have thyroid problems too Picard".
Done.
I wish Guinan would have said "When 900 years old, you reach… Look as good, you will not.”
You know that you have serious problems with your show when the fans enjoy watching the Red Letter Media review more than the actual episode.
The "fans" who like these bozos are the ones who aren't actual Trek fans.
@@ShadowSonic2 I'm an actual Star Trek fan. However, we just have to accept that all the new stuff is utter crap.
@@Dale_The_Space_Wizard You sound like the "fans" who tried to get TNG canceled in 1987.
@@ShadowSonic2 I didn't try and get the Next Generation cancelled in 1987. I was still a child and really enjoyed the show. It was a good series, unlike the utter crap like Discovery and Picard. Only a complete idiot could possibly like such rubbish.
@@ShadowSonic2 You sounds like a salty stan and can't deal with any kinda negative opinion
“The giant whale in space turns out to be Picard’s mother.”
Wrap it up, gents, we’re done here.
I’m also surprised they didn’t address why in the flashback with mom, Picard is dressed like a 1930’s paperboy. He was a kid like 50 years after Kirk/Spock and yet in his early 24th century Napa Valley (I mean FRENCH) vineyard home why is he sporting a derby cap and 30’s pantaloons?
@@jamesphillips4599 Because French lol.
@@jamesphillips4599 And how come Picard had hair in the flashback? Picard has never had hair. Never.
Oh she came back as the giant crystalline entity later on. And before that Im pretty sure she was the Doomsday Machine in the original series.
@@MichaelNNY Pickards in now a Robot , why does he even care , and why the hell is he eating and drinking stuff ? So Cringe .
Totally unbelievable episode. There’s no way men of Rich and Mike’s age and physical condition could possibly survive such drastic temperature changes.
The alcohol in Mike's bodily tissues helped to insulate him by thermo-cocooning his cells.
Rich is already in terrible pain and did not notice.
Lets be real, with this episode we can hope that at some point we will get a new star trek quiz show where Jay will finally beat Mike and donate all his money to pregnant dolphins child care costs.
you forget the fact that they're in wisconsin, temperature changes like this are normal
@@fileformat_png Just like keeping dry ice in a freezer will damage the freezer which is so much warmer, Wisconsin being placed into a Frozen-Over-Hell actually reduces the temperature in the Frozen-Over-Hell which is too comparatively warm.
Mike's so drunk he's not feeling anything. But Rich Evans is ACTING his heart out! He's in severe pain the whole episode but he's such a good actor none of it is showing. His salary must be six figures.
Wil Wheaton giving the performance of his life in that interview
Rich really hit the nail on the head about missing how everyone on STTNG was mature, and was actually a professional at their position. It was more edifying to see how they would solve problems and get out of scrapes than watching "I'm all messed up" people do it on Picard.
I never ever ever ever bought Raffi as someone of such high competence that they could be Picards first officer after Riker.
@@gsofficial Welcome to the NEXT generation after the next generation. Insufferable zealots indoctrinated with lies and propaganda, that only know how to destroy and hate, they are incapable of creating.
@@bigddannyflynn-filmmaker5694 You never watched TOS then, with all the dysfunctional Officers in that show.
Yep. This is killing me too. Can the adults return to star trek please?
@@scottfitzpatrick1939 Ugh, you never watched TOS did you?
The best thing about mishandled tonally-inappropriate Star Trek shows is that I get to see more of Mike and Rich Evans talk about Star Trek.
I don't even watch the show, I just love watching them hate themselves over it.
The clips of that announcer dude speaking to Alex Klutzmann is the epitome of the uncanny valley…
@@MisteRRYouTuby it literally looks like a cut from a black mirror episode.
@@captainbube1217 33:44. To confirm your statement.
@@MisteRRYouTuby thanks king!
I adore the moments in Re:Views and HitB when Mike pulls out and dramatically unfolds his Piece of Paper With Notes On It™️
And the guys still act surprised every time. Mike is just old school cool
Someday those pieces of paper will be held in more value than the very own Declaration of Independence.
@@henrique5231 oh shit what if Nic Cage steals them
I clapped, I clapped when I saw it!
I like how Patrick Stewart pretty much just explained why he himself is still making art, "Because he's still alive and his life is continuing."
As RLM continues to flourish, I love that they’ve used the independence they’ve kept over the years as creators to just force themselves to have miserable experiences
"Didn't totally 100% completely hate it" is a pretty big step up for this series.
I cringed when drunk chick said "half in the bag", I didn't even watch Season 1 but watched all this shit. I gave episode a chance, I'll try episode 2. Let's do some Star Trek type shit and an homage to "All Good Things," no-brainers, not everybody on writing team idiotic and if they are, fire them like Gene Roddenberry would have, please.
Not really, that's every nuTrek season premiere. We'll have 2-3 episodes of setting up mysteries ("this doesn't look great but let's see where they're going with this") followed by 3-5 episodes of meandering plot threads that go nowhere or redundantly re-establish things that have already been established ("oh no, this is looking bad"), then 2-3 episodes that breathlessly bring things to a rushed conclusion that's somehow even dumber and more underwhelming than you could have predicted ("well, that sucked, and even the parts that didn't seem to suck at the time now retroactively suck").
Remember the Sonic Cycle? It's like that.
@@benc.5558 33:44. As confirmation.
@@MisteRRYouTuby God, Wheaton looks so dead inside.
@@benc.5558 His voice didn’t reach maturity either…
Q could literally snap his fingers and swap robot Picard with real Picard, and you know they won't do it.
Alas, even Q cannot shrink Picard's massive prostate
I’m guessing the whole time travel thing will end up with Picard getting his real human prostate back
"oh, Jean Luc, there's something different about you, is that a new haircut?"
"What do you want, Q?"
"Oh, dear me, that artificial heart of yours took over and now you're fully synthetic! I didn't realize humans had that level of technology. Or maybe it was your time with the Borg?"
"Get out of my house, Q!"
"Now is that any way to greet an old friend? I can fix that, you know, give you your old body back, warts and all"
This stuff writes itself. Of course, they won't do it, since they're talentless hacks that don't actually care what the fans want.
"Some part of robot Picard imprinted itself onto real Picard"
In old Star Trek there would’ve been an episode about who was the real Picard and if the robot Picard was just as much the same man or a unique person
"He's 100 years old, and an undead android"
Enough about Patrick Stewart, what about Jean-Luc Picard?
Know what I miss from TNG? Not having dramatic music all the time and the sound of the ship’s engines in the background. And still camera shots. And meaningful conversations. And conferences with the crew where they try to figure out the best decision to move forward with.
and lighting without 20 layers of post processing
Well we got other shows for that now like...
Yup, still camera shots is so overlooked. I was thinking about why new Trek just feels off to me, almost like a parody, and the constant, incessant movement of the camera even in the most mundane of scenes with just someone talking really grinds my gears. That constant panning around drives me crazy. Once you notice it you can’t stop. Why do they do this? I imagine it’s just some fancy filming technique to create “dynamism” to increase the tension or pace, presumably because they think we have 5 second attention spans, but it’s fucking irritating. Stop it.
Just film a new series exactly as Star Trek until Enterprise was filmed, slow it down by like 75% and make it more cerebral with combat as a last resort and I’ll be happy. But that’s never going to happen so Voyager (and Enterprise but I didn’t watch it much) was the last real feeling Trek to me.
Just because you can do something (CGI everything and less practical, fancier camera angles, lazier filmmaking removing stuff in post) doesn’t mean you should. When that one battle scene from Wrath of Khan decades ago is more gripping than the entirety of Picard and Discovery combined…there’s a problem. (Tbh this is the same for all IPs from Jurassic Park to Star Wars)
"Picard's mother is the Borg"
Dang it Rich, that's just stupid enough to be true.
"Does Patrick Stewart think he's an action guy"
This is his "Black tank top" project, yes.
Taken has made fifteen different Taken spinoffs and remakes, so there is no age limit to being an action guy like Taken
Star Trek: Picard is basically Patrick Stewart's badly written vanity project.
Patrick Stewart: I want to be in a love story because I want to experience some of that WAP that people have being talking about.
Magneto: Is that what they saaayyy.
First Contact was his purple tank top project...
Picards are the new Skywalkers, everything revolves around them.
Series will end with Shoji Picard leading Starfleet.
When "not beheading people" is the best character growth achieved in the series, you know Kurtzman was behind it.
Not currently beading people.
There's still time to behead some😉
Wait until the Borg Queen takes the mask off and it's Burnham's Mom with a sword.
@@Welcome2TheInternet Which is also Janeway
@@plastefuchs666 The worst part, that would make sense in this time line.
I so want to be another time line.
All Guinan had to say was, "What can I say? At some point, the years catch up to all of us."
Reminds me of the time I got perma banned from r/startrek because I said "no" to the new STD trailer hype... then was told to not be toxic and that disagreement wasn't respectful. I replied to the moderator how ST was about inclusion of different perspectives and of course that sealed my fate. Hahaha, glad I'm not burning in hell alone lol
I was banned for saying a race-swapped Captain Kirk is an insult to Sisko. They reveal their own racism under the guise of "fighting" racism.
Meanwhile on the other end of the science fiction spectrum...I got promoted to an admin position in a Halo forum for criticizing Halo 4 before it was released. But was demoted (without any notice) when the old head of the forum was replaced by random fan who is unquestionably loyal to the brand. It's wonderful watching everything you loved rot.
Burning in hell?
You may be one of the few NOT. Lying is considered a sin, and the vast majority of people are not only lying about the quality of this show or the actors in it, they are lying to themselves about liking it.
@@idontknow164 it will become fuel for the upcoming class war, comrade.
Lol a lot of people got banned on r/startrek when the Plinkett Picard review dropped. Mods started banning anyone who posted a link to the vid, then started banning people who were just talking about the vid.
I think the most depressing thing about Star Trek's decline is that its whole premise is based on an idealistic and well thought out version of the future, and yet each new iteration is more unimaginative and careless with the source material than before. It's like a cruel irony.
Yeah but they virtue signal about the diversity it always had so now it's the best show ever
Well thought out?
But nobody explained why Harry Kim got a High Rise Apartment. Why did he get it? Can anybody have one? Because To Paris did not ha e one.
Who decides that in a society without money?
Hm? Why does Picard get to own wineyard? Can you explain that? Not everyone can have one after all.
Star trek wisely avoided going into details because the writers knew that gbis premise was the most bizarely utopian of all.
The cruel irony is that old Trek like DS9 handled things like the trauma and guilt of war, refugees, discrimination etc, a whole lot better than this 'nEw GoLdEn AgE.'
The idealistic utopia of Star Trek often served as a framework to criticize our modern society. But with the wholesome, optimistic message 'we can be better!'
The new iterations seem to totally flip that upside down. They deconstruct those ideals through the lens of modern-day cynicism and nihilism. Almost as if it's a joke. I mean, have you noticed in how many new series the Federation is one of the main antagonists? They've become the boring 'evil government' trope, including all the boring conspiracies and whatnot.
It's just generic dystopian scifi now.
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 They have magic wish-granting machines called replicators. That and almost unlimited power are the foundations on which their post-scarcity society is build.
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 I agree, they haven't really gone into too great of detail on how the near utopia is really handled.
They do have some fundamental elements in place, and they do point towards a merit based society in a lot of ways. I'm sure this has been greatly discussed and argued by people more qualified than either of us. But infinite food, insane electrical power, robots to carry out most work, expanding to other planets to have less scarce resources, and sharing technology with other species and civilizations. That can account for a whole lot, imo, or be a dark dystopia like most modern sci-fi is.
Either way, it's fiction, and the structure of the Federation is a huge basis to the stories that have been told.
Genuinely surprised Guinan didn't say "When 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not." because Kurtzman doest even know what franchise he's running.
"No Jean Luc, I AM your mother!"
It's awful to think that would have been better.
The look on Mike’s face as he lets the pain of Rich’s prediction wash over him is just exquisite.
8:59
And then 39:23 when it finally sinks in 😩 class!
Oh god, I think he's right though. Dumb dumb dumbbbbb. Mike's face is fucking hilarious though.
Gotta love a smile of pain. Okay
In case this hasn’t been pointed out, the shot of “other lady” playing the Borg Queen in Voyager is also Alice Krige. She came back for the Voyager finale.
Mike was probably thinking of Susanna Thompson, who played the Queen in "Dark Frontier" and "Unimatrix Zero".
@@vaclav4435 Yeah, that’s what I’m assuming.
Gee I sure hope someone was fired for that blunder!
@@jaksida300 Jay received 30 lashes for the error.
Jay: Giggity.
1. Next episode Agnes will order a drink in an alien bar called "Best of the worst"
2. They will call Picard's Borg-queen-mother's tentacles "Black spines"
3. They will choose their destination by spinning a wheel
I love the “Two elderly men grumble about an even elderlier Man” show. I didn’t think it would air this soon.
They have to hurry before the captain tips his hat.
I'm just waiting for their transformation into Statler and Waldorf to become complete. This show accelerated that process dramatically.
I sometimes forget Star Trek and Star Wars are owned by different corporate entities. It's bizarre watching two separate media conglomerates mismanage their beloved science fantasy properties in almost the exact same way at almost the exact same time.
Anyway, congrats to anyone who read this. You've officially outlived both!
Mismanaged on purpose.
The excuse that Guinan looks older because she chose to is some next level stupidity. Its like it didn't even occur to the writers that Guinan might look older because she was older
"guinan why do you look older, i thought your race aged slowly"
"Yeah slowly, i looked the way you knew me for a long time, but time caught up with me"
THERE YA GO KUTZMAN! YA HACK!
God knows that there is no way to explain it in a fiction with TIME TRAVEL
same reason why q decided to be older
@@Zontar82 "Q why are you here, and why do you look like that"
"Fuck you jean-luc that's why"
In a season of time travel they could have made her a much much much much older Guinan, and make that the reveal... but no. Q aged 12 years from TNG to VOY... BUT no... There's a reason... I FEEL SO SMART!
At this point, you should just have Jay sitting in this discussion just to watch his eyes glaze over.
I think Jay actually enjoys all the disturbing sex scenes in New Trek.
Just alternate still shots with bored shots.
Tied to his chair
It would be pretty funny if they had him sit in the middle in complete silence and never once acknowledged him.
@@comradeconrad ...Until they needed to ask him something. Then they would, as usual, look past the camera and go "RIIIICH? Are you there?"
Mike and Rich are actively shortening their lifespans through prolonged exposure to Picard just so they can review it for us. I appreciate your sacrifice.
Hopefully talking about it here is therapeutic for them and lessens the impact Picard has on them.
Now if Picard wore a black tank top at some point in the season, things would start to make much more sense...
They're really doing the people behind the show a favor. Why keep consuming something that has only made you feel bad in the past? Their love for star trek and the goodwill bought by TNG and DS9 must be immense. I've personally lost all trust in all TV/Movie studios to make anything good since the last movie or TV show that enthralled me is 7 years old now and most everything since then has actually enraged me by how derivative, stupid, or patronizing it's been. I'm a stupid idiot but how stupid they assume the average consumer is is monstrous. This stuff is like baby specific shows with lots of cool noises and colors but the baby is an adult and literate.
@@JozefLucifugeKorzeniowski To me, Star Trek ended after DS9.
You know it’s a great episode of review when mike breaks out the paper like an Alzheimer’s patent
Alex Kurtzman is the single most talented individual in Hollywood... With his talent being "ruining everything he touches". I mean, it's very hard to completely ruin a police procedural about serial killers. But my man actually managed to do it with flying colors. (See: Clarice.)
I will also add to his talent "and still get work afterwards". He was instrumental in not only crashing the popularity of the new Trek movies but also botched the launching of the Universal's Dark Universe franchise. How he still gets work is a mystery for the ages.
@@MrDevious88 He's got an ethnic and "spiritual" connection to the TV and film industry. That's how he keeps getting work, in case you were still wondering...
Kurtzman, Abrams, Spielberg... damn I sure wonder what those guys have in common that allows them to forever keep their status and success in the industry no matter how many times they fail or how many franchises they ruin ... . 🙄🙄
@@lebaneseedgyist5073 If Spielberg ever makes another Holocaust film, I'm going to the premiere wrapped in a Palestinian flag...
@@AlphonseSwedgen much respect! I understand for Europeans there are a lot of issues you get with the immigration situation and people coming to your countries but when it comes to people generally in Syria or Lebanon (i havent been to Palestine the same way since we cant just drive over there for a stayover or visit the same way people go between Lebanon and Syria for occasions but im sure the attitudes arent very different there) we really dont have any bad intent towards you guys
One of the very, very few things I was impressed by in The Force Awakens was Harrison Ford's return as Han Solo. When an actor returns to a role they haven't played in many years, it often feels like they've "lost" the character and they're just playing their idealized version of said character. Han Solo in TFA looks, sounds, and feels like Han Solo. Picard in Star Trek: Picard looks, sounds, and feels like... Patrick Stewart. Can you imagine the "real" Picard and Guinan squeeze-hugging like that, no matter how long it had been since their last meeting? No, of course not. Because that's not Picard and Guinan, that's just Patrick and Whoopi, and it shows.
Hit the nail on the head.
I still maintain that the funniest scene in the new trilogy is when Finn says with a dumbest grin "We can use the force!" and Han replies "THAT'S NOT HOW THE FORCE WORKS!!!" It was kind of pitch perfect, actually.
Correct.
That's the difference between when you lure someone into a project by giving them creative control vs luring them in with a giant dump truck full of money.
...Really? I mean, each to their own. But I think you should watch Empire Strikes Back again, and compare Han Solo in that, to Han in TFA. Han in TFA is a bit of a buffoon, who no longer has the commanding, almost threatening presence he had in Empire, and whose writing depicts him as a total failure of a man who screwed up his relationships and ended up resetting himself to a state earlier and inferior to that of his arc's conclusion in the original trilogy.
He goes from being a respected "natural leader", as Leia puts it, to somebody's loser uncle who never really grew up. I mean, he was a badass in Empire; charming when he wanted to be, a "scoundrel" when he thought it would work, and utterly ice-cold and focused when he needed to be. The dude had a presence.
Woopie saying “When 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not”
Would have been better than what we got. 😂
Lmfao. Reading that almost made me cross-eyed
meme it
But she looked fine the last time we saw her and she was 700.
Can her race also control their weight to fit in better? Cause she fits right in with people of Wal-Mart at this point. Shoulda cgi her lmao
The thing about Guinan purposefully aging to make humans "feel more comfortable" is weird. I mean, presumably there all sorts of aliens on earth. Probably like, floating mists of energy, big rolling balls of tentacles, 17 foot tall monsters covered in fur that communicate through spit - all sorts of crazy stuff.
But the _one thing_ humans still haven't gotten used to is a black lady who doesn't seem to age? _That_ is the thing that freaks them out? "Whoa! I found this old picture of us together and you look the same age. This is CREEPY! Anyway, please tell the vat of sentient sulfuric ooze that I'll be in a little late this morning. I've got an appointment with Dr. 7-headed horseman."
This seems to echo the utterly ridiculous premise from Picard season 1 where they say organics will always conflict with synthetic life because synthetics don’t age.
The writers of this seem OBSESSED with the idea that not aging as we do makes humans uncomfortable which is not only contradictory (Vulcans have at least twice the lifespan of humans) but extremely petty for the enlightened and utopian people Star Trek humans are meant to be.
@@zephyr8072 there is some evolving experiments in regards to aging. And whenever I’ve brought up the idea of making humans no longer age or making death by aging a thing of the past. Either through genetic editing, or through having our bodies relearn how to make certain cells and fibers. I’ve been met with an immediate response of discomfort at the idea of aging becoming a thing of the past.
So I guess I’m going to have to throw the writers a bone on that one. It does seem like a source of discomfort for a lot of people. Personally I think it’s cool and so I share it, but a lot of people seem to dislike the idea.
Edit: then again it’s possible I’m the worst salesman of all time who can somehow make not dying seem like a bad thing
@@woodlefoof2 Yes but there's a difference between minor discomfort and being uncomfortable to the point of open conflict.
Regardless of _that_ that point is that in the setting of Star Trek it's not a thing that's ever been a problem for the aforementioned reason. Nobody has ever gone up to Spock and resented him for living twice as long as humans, not even McCoy who looked for any reason to make a jab at him.
Nobody has ever been uncomfortable or distant with Guinan even though she's centuries old and still young.
This is a problem with nuTrek as a whole. Writers who don't respect the history and setting of Star Trek.
If they want to make a story where humans/organics are oh so resentful of immortals of any stripe then they can write that story, but don't call it Star Trek.
There was a character on DS9 who literally had a CLEAR SKULL. He was repeatedly talked about but never shown, because you could literally see his brains. Jadzia had a little crush on him and it became a running joke.
But yes, ageless black lady is too disturbing.
Remember when Jean Luc Picard was a character with nobility and this commanding presence, and not a sad old guy who spends all his time looking tired, depressed, and crying? Yeah I'm gonna cast shade where it's due, the Next Generation movies started this, but damn if I just don't care about watching Patrick Stewart crying anymore. This character has strayed so far from the qualities that made him admirable that I have no hesitation is answering the question "Whose the best Captain, Picard or Kirk?" with an unquestioned vote for James Tiberius.
Until today i was in team picard. But after the perfect summary of your comment i came to realize that i am in team kirk - for a long time actually
@@mezua123 True, I think if they cast Shatner in a Kirk revival, he could still pull off the role admirably.
Picard wins if you accept that this new stuff, and perhaps the TNG movies, aren’t canon
@@christopha1955 for sure. Patrick stewart lost all his credibility. Never let an actor make decisions about the story
@@ChadGPTu Well, i thlught alot about that. Why do i even care about nmthis new stuff? Just dont consider it canon and that's it. Bit the disappointing thing is this: as a fan you always wish for a continuation of your beloved story i a satisfying way. But because they messed up, all future attempts of continuing the star trek story are going to consider this awfullnes in some way or another. Therefore your beloved story is ruined for eternity and all hope for a reasonable continuation is out the window. I hope this makes sense and is understandable
I have no intention of ever watching Kurtzman Trek but I will always make time to watch Mike and Rich talk about it.
36:13
It's good to be reminded every once in a while how insufferable Wil Wheaton is.
My god, he's such a boot licker
It's embarrassing really
Shill Sheaton.
Shut up Westley
Why? The guy is a has-been. He was on one show 25 or 30 years ago, then faded off into obscurity. If he didn't do a cameo on 'Big Bang Theory,' we wouldn't even remember him. His life is playing 'Risk' and 'Monopoly' with family and friends, and making little TH-cam videos of it. How do you know or care about some D-list nobody ex-actor?
They had such a sliver of hope. Only to have it collapse in on itself and turn them into anime villains
The line "Half in the bag" is totally a meta reference to you guys; and well deserved.
It has to be. I didn't even know that was a saying, I just thought it was the title of the RLM show. If it's that obscure a saying there's no way it isn't a reference. Maybe there's a writer over at who was able to sneak that in there.
Genuinely could be a disgruntled writer who is a fan of the show and is consistently shot down. They must be so happy they got the line in the show f this is the case
It means "drunk" though and its not really that obscure,but im hoping its a wink and a nod.
Yep, someone dying inside doing all they can to make it less worse than it is, like Henry Cavil saying, "you know, maybe we shouldn't joke about the horse" in season 2 of The Witches.
@@O1OO1O1 I really think their feelings got hurt after Mike and Co's takedown of S1 and wanted to give a subtle wink..
Oh boy, more Star Trek talk! I have zero intention of ever watching it, but I love listening to Mike and Rich discuss Star Trek.
MORE! MORE! MORE PLEASE!
Same here lol, I've run through the Trek talk playlist multiple times and wasn't expecting, but was hopeful for this.
I love watching star trek when it involves walking past someone else watching it and I catch bits and pieces, other than that I can't sit through it
I watched Season 1 solely because they were reviewing it. I've watched probably 1/3 of the films they've covered on BOTW - every one of them was more entertaining than any episode of Picard. The review-to-item under review quality ratio was even higher here than it was for the Plinkett reviews of the prequels.
Don't watch new trek. Watch most of TNG and DS9 instead.
It's more fun if you do. You can scoff at the show and laugh with the boys.
Oh my god. I almost died of laughter with the Patrick Stewart video "Because he's still alive and his life is continuing." You got that right, Sir Patrick.
and the paychecks
Trek is due, for a next NEXT generation..
Smh..😆
For me, the fact that Synth Picard is just a robot clone of the Real Picard takes away any sense of depth when he is meeting with old friends or developing new relationships. Do any of these people know he's not the actual Picard, or do they just not care? Either way, I just can't get past it and care about this copy of the original character
The show probably is written as if he never died, thus making his death meaningless from a writing perspective.
I literally don't watch the show but I still watch these. Just the depth of analytic passion for Star Trek, and for general story telling.
"I Absolutely Fucking Hate Myself" FINALLY!!! ... A show for me.
The most fitting title for this decade possible.
I think Rich is half right when it comes to the twist about Picard's mom. I'm putting my bet more on Starfleet being the one to kidnap his mom for something RELATED to the Borg so the show can do some "are humans the real monsters?" message.
His mom was a borg queen who chose to quit, and the Federation put her back into the super borg cube
Picard’s mother was a researcher in Section 31 and created the Borg.
And think about this, Q was the person to introduce Picard to the Borg all the way back in the day.
What if Q is actually Picards dad?
Oh now I thought of something dumber thanks to reading your comments, what if she was part of some experiments to control people who became part of the Borg and the only reason she's this new Super Borg is because Picard became part of the hivemind?
And the answer is "yes. *Cis White Men* are the real monsters."
I’m so entranced with this channel, I have been binging it straight for 3 days. I haven’t slept. I’ve never come across it before but it’s honestly the best critical analysis of genres I love, even if I don’t watch them anymore.
When they pointed out that the faceless Borg queen is going to be Picards’ mother I honestly saw writers literally fucking panicking and doing a last second reshoot or a deepfake. Because only they could think that something that makes that little sense was an example of good writing.
Rich looks great, despite putting himself and Mike through very avoidable torture
Nu-Trek finally made me understand what O'Brien meant in "The Wounded" when he told the Cardassian: "It's not you I hate, Cardassian. I hate what I became because of you".
I hate the type of Trek fan that I've become because of shit like Discovery and Picard.
I immediately caught the Half in the Bag reference, and wondered if there one true fan in the writer's room who's always wanted to work on Star Trek and now hates himself, and sent it up as a cry for help.
100% that's it.
One true fan. Wants to write Star Trek. Stuck in the writers room. He may hate himself. They just might all hate themselves. Writes an SOS into the script. RLM fans recognize it. SEND IN THE KILL SQUAD!
Watch out for a line where someone says "these mercenaries are the Best of the Worst, they can behead more people than a Romulan ninja"
"This patch job warp drive they gave us is the worst, we might as well be rolling around on wheels instead!"
In the background there will be an old man watching Night Court on his recently repaired vcr.
It's amazing, these two are so dedicated they also digitally aged themselves an extra thirty years
Oh no wait
Saying that Guinan began aging faster once she crossed a certain age threshold would not only make more sense, it would actually be fairly consistent with prior canon:
1) The Ocampa lived to be 8-9 yo. They were basically grown by 1 and looked the same until around 7 when they entered middle age, and then rapidly got old and died in the last year or two. This is even depicted with Kes in an episode.
2) Malcolm McDowell played a ~300yo El-Aurian when he was 51. Whoopi Goldberg is 66. Her character appeared to be fully grown in 1893, and this episode is apparently set in 2401, meaning she's probably at least 500 years old. Whoopi is ~30% older than McDowell but her character is ~67% older than his. If anything her character looks young for her age - she should actually look at least as old as McDowell is now.
It hasn't been explicitly stated but aging faster as they get older is something we've already seen in Vulcans. Both Spock and Tuvok starting aging like humans at a certain age.
@BiggieTrismegistus I feel like the case of Spock was just the actor unavoidably aging, and with Tuvok... well... Voyager is Voyager :) But I'd personally bet that was actually more a case of "they think the audience is stupid" - showing Tuvok decades in the future looking almost identical to present-day Tuvok wouldn't have played as well for non-Trekkies, especially when he's supposed to be feeble with disease.
I love that you guys make it possible for me to NEVER watch these shows and yet EXPERIENCE them so vividly!
Truly, they are a force of boomer good in this world.
Yes.
I would not touch these in any way.
...
But I feel the hate and disappointment for them due to RML...thank you RLM
if you can get for free you should watch to know these reviews are true. unfortunately you cannot un-see something, like a train wreck
They have saved me a lot of money, I used to go to the movie theater like twice per month to see all the shitty movies, now since I've discovered RLM, I go maybe once a year.
The funniest thing on earth to me is
"To save the future... we must repair the past"
Which is hilarious because the comedy internet series Red vs Blue had that same line:
"To save the future we must fix the past!"
as a hook for one of their seasons, with it being an ongoing joke about how dumb of an idea it is
That's also the premise of Time Squad.
Sonic for hire did the same thing, the joke being that the writers were completely out of ideas.
I really believe that 20 years out from 9/11, we're still suffering from some form of cultural PTSD that makes "dark, nihilistic, and bleak" the only acceptable flavor of science fiction. The original series was an outgrowth of 1960s-era space utopianism and TNG slotted nicely into the post-Cold War, fin-de-siècle globalism of the late 80s/early 90s. I'm not saying that Nu Trek has to copy the tone of the earlier series, but it has to find some way to re-capture a sense of optimism in the future.
We actually need Trek more than anything to give some optimism that things can get better, and also for just fun escapism. A lot of the appeal of the older Trek series is that they were singular episodes and people just had them on in the background.
I think the first episode of Season 2 did that. The second episode, being in the Mirror Universe or wherever it was, was meant to be crappy world, but the first episode was upbeat and positive; people liked and respected Picard, and all the drunk and stone people on La Sirena are now just regular Starfleet people. The season may end up sucking, but at least it started off very well.
He's probably a so called "9/11 Truther" like his fellow hack Orci. They only see governments of any kind as gleefully malicious entities that revel in hurting their population. The optimism of Star Trek probably feels childish to those that only see monsters around every corner.
I think Discovery has definitely reversed course on this, though idk if it matters...
I don't think 9/11 had much of an impact on anyone's mind in the U.S., beyond everyone repackaging their own preexisting demons (xenophobia, paranoia, depression, etc.) as some sort of faux-reflective "how everything changed". That said... I definitely think that wrecked English-language sci-fi TV for many years.
I watched these backwards. From episode 10 to 1… and seeing how they went further and further into despair as the show went on. It was like the Divine comedy in reverse.
same lmao
Almost shed a tear when this popped up. I had lost all hope in you covering Nu Trek.
#almostbutterflytear
CBS sh*te Trek is way too bad to go unpunished by RLM.
Would you say you shed butterfly tears?
Yeah it's awesome if they do non obscure stuff
I also shed a tear for Star Trek. RIP Star Trek, 1966-2005.
I love how they try to convince us that a golden age is putting out as much content for as much profit as possible. It doesn't have to be good. Don't ask questions, get ready to consume more product. Clap a bit at the references, pay your 7 streaming services, pretend you're happy with your life.
A lot of this “golden Age” are shows like from the past dressed up with good cinematography (which is and cheaper nowadays) and “drama” based around people with disturbed backgrounds that pretend to be deep. Very few shows are actually any good. I think you hit the nail on the head.
The golden age claims are just spin-doctor. Homogenization of the arts is stifling creativity and it's leaving many longtime fans jaded and unhappy.
@@saberiandream316 True. Though I’m enjoying the cycle of badly made shows that help to create quality entertainment like these guys who pick the shows apart.
Theres a book titled "Infinite Jest" that predicted the rise of a streaming services. The Writer lamented on loss of true human interaction. He later killed himself in real life.
It begs the question
If this is the Golden Age, what was it when it was good?
"The forefront of the new golden age of Star Trek." Wil Wheaton sounds like one of those scientologist propaganda videos.
Man, as easy as it is to hate on Wheaton, those clips are just so depressing. I'm not entirely sure what it is, but each time they played one it felt terrible. Is he genuinely asking these questions or is it just an act to keep himself involved?
I don't think he's a real person. Pretty sure he died of a brain condition and they cloned him from a positron. Would explain the weird robot zombie vibes he gives off.
@@YevOnegin I think he's a real person who wants to have some money in his pocket
Maybe it's depressing because if "corporate tool" had an entry in Wikipedia they'd use his face as the article pic.
Woopie aged gracefully enough they could have changed it from saying she got old to saying she got fat and it would have been more honest.
yeah, maybe something about eating real delicious Earth food vs carefully honed replicator synth food
yeah, but that would require telling Woopie to her face that she's packed on a few pounds, and them making her say it as a line, and do you think anyone in show business is going to dare bruise the ego of one of their big stars that they're using to market their shitshow?
@@RipOffProductionsLLC she' would say it with utmost pride, call it body building, and maybe mention how much more fun her sex life has gotten.
@@VukLazarMusic It's the seed oils they put in replicator food that makes people fat
@@RipOffProductionsLLC Like she doesn't know she's gotten fat. She's a comedian, she can make a self-depreciating fat joke. She could have improvised something and it would have been better than what the writers wrote.
Why does Star Trek no longer go out to find new life and new civilisations anymore . Or even boldly go where no man has ever gone before :(
Galactic treaty.
It now identifies as a cat and poops in a litter tray
@@floydlooney6837 Grudge is a Queen.
21:36 It cracks me up that Jay is within earshot while they're in hell.
The thing that always spooked me about the Borg was how individual Borg were basically cells in a superconsciousness so advanced that they saw all other sapient life as bacteria to be harvested and uplifted. The Federation was incapable of fighting back in any meaningful way and the only way to avoid certain destruction was to stay beneath their notice. Hell, the big victory in The Best of Both Worlds was a fluke Data took advantage of that probably got patched the moment they woke up.
Then they introduced a Queen and went from being miniscule parts of an incomprehensively vast single organism to cyborg peasants being coerced into serving this season's Megalomaniacal Pleather-clad Space Bitch when they're not skipping work to RP as individuals in Unimatrix Zero.
They went from being unstoppably powerful to conveniently stupid, and now you can reprogram Borg bodies that barely knew individual consciousness back into individuals with the only side-effect being mild, temporary social autism.
I thought the whole point of Q's initial spiel on the Borg was to tell Picard that humanity was still in its infancy, and that the entire time they thought they were exploring the great expanse of space, they were just plankton paddling about in a tide pool, completely unaware of the leviathans swimming just beyond the edge of their perception, but nope. You just gotta invert the polarity of the pew pew guns and defeat them with the power of Love, because humans value love, and love is a magical superpower that only we have.
yep. just like with Q. From this menacing God who played deadly games with mortals, they turned him into a clown who is there only for the jokes. this is the fate for all the characters who become too popular.
A+ writing in this comment. Spectacular read.
Mike and Rich are literally the only things I like about Star Trek these days.
Same here. I want Picard and Discovery to be canceled along with any other plans they have. HOWEVER, as long as they're gonna do the shows, I wanna see Mike and Rich shit on these terrible shows.
Hey, Lower Decks is an actual decent Star Trek show.
Waiting for the new season of "the orville"
When Wil Wheaton said that this was a "golden age of Star Trek", I physically wretched.
This is the second-hand leather couch of Star Trek
26:32 I can't stop laughing because some genius inserted a fart sound as Picard squirms in the chair. 26:47 he farts again and looks up suddenly.
Picard's Mom: "Come along, Jean-Luc, let's see what's out there."
Picard: "Mom, we're at a Space Walmart."
Rich’s mix of horror and awe when Mike pulls out the Borg Queen doll is priceless
Picard's mom being the Borg Queen is truly a Big Dumb, so that's sadly the route they'll probably take. There is, however, another possibility: when Picard was assimilated and became Locutus, the Borg gained access to his mind. It's entirely possible that the Borg, legitimately in dire straits and looking to negotiate, pulled this from Picard's mind to use as some sort of gesture of sincerity. It's not very probable, but it is possible.
So much better than it really being his mother. At some point, Chabon has to get back to Calypso level stuff.
That's exactly what I thought, I think you're right!
oh come on. they didn't watch the original series. the only borg knowledge they have is from watching the trailer for a movie. the show is too dumb for your vastly superior idea. honestly feels like any fan could write better. shit dude, apply as a writer. they may be hiring.
See the problem with your theory is that it assumes the writers have a minimum understanding of the source material and aren't, well, talentless hacks
@@TheBlackwolf5011 Judging from fan criticism of the last season, the only way to end up with a _worse_ written version of _Picard_ would be to entrust it to "any fan". One of the biggest problems with _Picard_ and _Discovery_ is endless obsessing over the franchise's past; most "fans" want *_more_* of that.
On the next Picard: "I don't need the best of the best, I need the BEST of the WORST" *stares into camera*
“Time catches up to all of us eventually, Jean-Luc.”
That’s all she needed to say.
Bringing Q back was their last chance to convince me they have their hearts in the right place and they blew it by not having Q take Picard to Equestria to learn about the magic of friendship
Stop trying to sow Discord now.
I just know Q's going to say something along the lines of "Oh come now, Picard, you're the closest thing to a friend I have! And you and I both know that friendship is magic!"
@@DarkWizard83 I was holding out a sliver of hope for Q showing up with the ear trumpet from All Good Things, Picard being irate, Q saying how that’s no way to treat a friend and how Fluttershy doesn’t mind when he just drops by for tea, something about Picard liking equines and needing to be more animated in his old age, then taking Picard to learn a lesson about friendship in the most epic crossover event in cinematic history
Or how to cause an airplane disaster over Albuquerque.
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 i see what you did there.
“Jay, Jay, are you around?” 😂😂😂 I love how they bring Jay in the discussion. We need more of Jay’s input in these discussions!
"The giant sausage in space might gave been Picard's mother" made me soil myself
It’s kind of wild and sad to see Will Wheaton faking excitement like that in those clips.
His name is pronounced "Hhhwill Hhhwheaton."
After hearing Wil Wheaton say "how does it feel to be at the forefront of the new golden age of Star Trek?" I actually became nauseated. I loved Star Trek in the 90's because it was full of hope, thought provoking, with good writing and amazing characters. They took everything I loved about it and ground it down into a fine powder so it's indistinguishable from any other grim dark sci-fi that has existed for the last decade and removed anything that wasn't mindless phasers and explosions. An hour in TNG was dedicated to exploring sentience while JJ Abrams dedicated an hour to removing any need of having starships at all and curing death while cramming in enough explosions and lens flares to leave the unprepared totally blind. The only thought provoked by this new golden age of Star Trek is wondering how often do they need to clean their own shit off of Gene Roddenberry's grave.
So in other words, you're mad that Trek kept up with what the general audiences wanted in their stuff now?
"So in other words, you're mad that Trek kept up with what the audiences MENTAL DECLINE now?"
Fixed that for you.
@@Kyle-sr6jm That's what the audience wants, its what it gets. Look at how HBO has to insert sex and violence into nearly everything it does to appear "Highbrow".
@@raijinmeister It's better than anything Seth McFarlane did for the Orville.
Hit google translate. It comes up as really meaning, "I want a paycheck. Please hire me."
The only reason, literally the only reason I watch Star Trek Picard is so I can watch these videos afterwards and laugh my ass off.
I do that as well, only without watching Star Trek Picard
@@radim279 yup
It's already bad, just watched Episode 2. Straight rip-off of "Mirror, Mirror" even though every other Trek show has also ripped off "Mirror, Mirror," I almost couldn't believe it was happening. Except instead of Evil Spock, 7 of 9 has an Indonesian husband, or something. It's mind-boggling, stay tuned for Mike and Rich to go to town.
@@radim279 Watching the show makes it more funny.
Gotta say. They are pretty good even without watching watching it
I havent even considered watching the show; these guys are entertaining enough.
I've watched these reviews three times now. Thank you for your service.
I love how no one cares Picard is a walking USB backup of himself.
@David P that crazy scientist blonde pointed that out on the bridge, but I don’t know if the rest of Starfleet outside of his close friends even know about it.
To quote the judge from the Simpsons "And I further decree that all will be just as it was before all this happened, and no one will ever mention it again! Under penalty of torture!"... YAY!
@@FiveOClockWorld Wait, was Seven of Nine actually killed after Voyager got home? If I recall that exact episode, the crew got home (earlier in fact) thanks to time shenanigans by Admiral Janeway.
I mean some stuff vaguely similar has happened in the older series as well. I feel like there are a thousand other issues to face before you get to that.
@@FiveOClockWorld First two are good questions; however Seven didn't die at the end of Voyager, one of the main reasons for Janeway to go back in time was to stop that.
I was surprised they didn't mention the part of the episode where the Captain of a Starfleet ship orders his bridge crew to stop firing on someone numerous times as comical amounts of extra crew with phasers come pouring out of the turbolift, ignoring him every single time. It was like something out of Police Squad.
And is he ever going to light that damn cigar!? Is it the last one in existence or what? Doesn't even put it down when the ship is seemingly under attack, so it must be precious....
@@leothompson2777 I was honestly surprised they gave that a pass when mentioning it too. Like, it's weird enough to see people with cigars in a typical Star Trek context that isn't the holodeck or for some specific purpose, but the Captain of the ship to just be chilling with one on duty in his chair?
I guarantee it's another lazy character development quirk. He probably does something like lighting it when he thinks he's going to die or something as a final hurrah. "I ain't smoking this until the fat lady sings".
Similarly, Agnes getting drunk seemingly with real alcohol at some kind of diplomatic environment was equally annoying. Hardly someone in control of their vices and yet she's entrusted on the bridge to override the actual officers on duty. Of course she did murder a classic character with no repercussions, so I guess anything goes with her at this point.
It's kind of like they said in the video I suppose. The bar is set so low with modern Trek at this point, that going an hour without pissing you off or insulting your intelligence is a huge deal, and you just sort of get numb to it.
@@leothompson2777 I remember in TNG when they were transporting alien immigrants (who were Irish for some reason?) they attempted to start a fire in the Cargo Bay the Computer erected a force field around it and starved it of Oxygen. I presume the same thing would happen if he lit it.
I suppose it could be his method of fighting the oral fixation that smokers often get when quitting, I know a lot of people start chewing gum to keep their mouth occupied.
@@thomaswedge42 pretty sure they were humans
@@DJMcFlinty They were humans. They were the descendants of human colonists who were Luddites trying to get away from technology (who ironically used space travel to find a planet without any technology on it I guess) who just also happened to be Irish for some reason (the actual reason was so the writers could use Irish stereotypes in the episode I guess).
Which is important as they're the solution at the end of the episode when they run into another different batch of human colonists who embrace technology but their colony ship crashlanded and only like, 7 of them survived, so they've been cloning themselves ever since. The clone colony needed genetic diversity in their genepool or they'd just degenerate on some genetic level, and the Irish stereotypes needed a new home planet, so Picard just dumps the potato lovers on the clone world and they agree that every Mick can have 6 clone wives.
8:31 - That voice is everything.
They definitely put the Guinan line about choosing to age so the soulless robot wearing Picard's face can also choose to age/die.
Your ability to predict what will happen by simply asking the question "what's the stupidest fucking thing the writers could do" is astounding.
Welcome to the golden age of Star Trek.
@@macsmith2013 Welcome to the golden age of most pop culture.
Wil Wheaton is the perfect representation of the consumer that current Star Trek (and basically all pop culture in general) loves to sell to.
The souless Nerd Consoooomer
I MUST CONSUUUUUM NUTREK!! 6 NEW SERIES!! IS THE NEW GOLDEN AGE!!!!
He looks like live-action soyjak
@@redundant6972 holy shit this is dead on lol
The Funko pop consoomer
Consider that Big Bang theory is what people think of when you see geek/nerd now and Wheaton loved to milk paychecks from that abysmal show with all the pop culture references, that makes a lot of sense
I always love an off camera Jay appearance.
On retrospect I kind of understand why everything turned out the way it did. These surface level emotional baggage are signs of immaturity. Because we live in a time of adults acting and emoting like children that shows like these are written like this. They were written by men-children for men-children, and men in it are gender neutral, because there are a lot of immature women involved as well. The old Star Trek was fascinating to teens at the time was also due to the way it portrayed adulthood. Everyone are professional, stoic and determined, yet placed in situations which challenge these qualities of theirs. They are not incapable of immaturity, pettiness and temptation, but they overcome and control it to be "adults" to fulfil their duties to themselves and others.
That's not to say man-children can't be well written or interesting. Breaking Bad follows a man-child as he upended people's life through his selfishness and inability to control his desires. It's the awareness that makes all of the differences. Things just kind of work itself out in both, but in Breaking Bad you can tell the show creators are very well aware of the negative quality of immaturity, while they don't seem to be self-aware in shows like Picard.
Tangentially, it reminds me of Rose in Disney's Star Wars. People were mad at her not just because of her actions, but mostly because the framework of the shows left her actions untouched. There's no lesson to be learned, no deep emotional consequences, no realisations. It just ends there in that movie.
Regarding Guinan and aging, they should have said something more in line with the actual character. I feel like she'd say "happens to the best of us" and leave it at that. Bam, that's all you need. You address it but keep Guinan being somewhat mysterious.
Good call! I wonder how they might explain her weight gain though? It's so unhealthy that you'd think it's an issue that would be controlled by science in the far future. Would the replicator be used to make doritos and cheesecake?
She looks mostly the same other than weight. Just say that she's lived a very interesting few years and it's harder to bounce back after you get past 500.
Or 'We don't live forever Jean-Luc...'
@@CousinCreepy Typical replicators can't make poisons, so Doritos are out.
@@quzar You're right! No munchies in the future - bummer!
I can't believe Rich initiated this. I was half expecting this video to start and Mike to be holding him at gunpoint to review S2 with him, not the other way around.
"They are breaking new ground!"
its more like Mikes character from Smiling Friends holding a gun to his own head ready to shoot himself
Rich is initiating psychological warfare on Mike.
Stockholm syndrome.
Did we not see Picard's mother as a very elderly woman already in the early seasons of TNG? Like VERY elderly.
I think that was his Nana or family maid
@@bosmeriosmosis215 Hmmm... no because he specifically said "mama"
@@icyrazor i don't remember that but if it is his mother it would be strange that she's now dead or missing in star trek picard
@@icyrazor He says something like "Mamare", which I THOUGHT meant grandmother.
Rich looks really good. Glad to see him well.