Burn, but Simic | $30 Budget Magic | Standard
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 พ.ค. 2024
- Is it really possible to build a Simic Burn deck thanks to the new Outlaws of Thunder Junction Deserts with a deck that's sort of like Standard Amulet Titan? Let's find out!
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3:56 Match 1
16:20 Match 2
26:55 Match 3
44:25 Match 4
1:01:17 Match 5 - เกม
Hey there, Greg here! Sorry, Saff. Didn’t think I’d come by someone Dropplegregging seven Deserts. I also don’t actually work for the client, but I’ll send out the Greg-net and nix this thing in the bud, bud.
I have to admit this is the hardest I've ever laughed at a TH-cam comment
@@sheepy403 ;)
Honestly, being told I wasn't very good at my job while I slack off from my job by watching magic on TH-cam is not what I wanted to hear, but it is probably what I needed.
😂😂😂
Took it in stride lol
Heard! My branch was only trained to Dopplegang up to 6 desserts. But I did see a memo from Big Greg about an interface training happening this week.
Seth saying opponents are hungry so he offers them some Dessert.
That's a very bad pun and I love it ❤
Which is why the deck is “sweet sweet”.
ooooooh!
Initially thought I was invisible. Thanks everyone.
I called this deck the Desert Eagle deck
Me: Nothing can possibly stop this deck from steamrolling Standard!
Greg:
so instead of near infinite mana into fireball you near infinitely clone common draft lands for the win, peak gameplay right over here
man I love watching seth's brews
Thanks!
now this is the content I watch SaffronOlive for.
I'd love to see a non-budget version, if possible
I've been playing a non-budget Sultai build for fun. I'll have to do a video or stream of it.
The non budget list is in the article linked in the description. Adds black for go for the throat and sb cards
@@MTGGoldfishCommander Thanks Seth!
...wait hold up, that's Tomer's channel!
@@MTGGoldfishCommanderplease do!!!
My take on this would be to go temur for Ardent Elementalist. Do know that is rotating out soon... or should be, but can see that making a combo out more possible.
The lore implications- “Aw yeah I got killed by 25 evil clones of an Oasis in the desert
" I saw a mirage of 25 oasis' and fainted "
my interpretation is that you are placing 25 oases on top of your opponent
"Statement of an unnamed Planeswalker, regarding 25 oasises being dropped on their head? Statement begins....."
@@alexandercandicedad1355"Then the Oasis ate him."
Idea for the deck name: Operation Desert Storm
I prefer my decks to not reference literal wars.
How about just calling it “Greg Dessert” based on Seth’s fumbles?
If you win with the deck you lose the right to call it that, to keep things real world accurate
@@Sillimant_ why is that?
@SomeFreakingCactus guess you don't approve of my hazezon Gaza deck 😔
I don't see why someone's name for their deck matters
You may not like it but at the end of the day it's not hurting you
2.5 more years of Seth playing Dopplegang 🥹
We found the upside to the longer Standard rotation.
Maybe by the time it rotates out Arena will finally be able to manage an X=7 Doppelgang without crashing.
Topiary Stomper is rotating soon, what does it get replaced with in this?
@@CDShap there are lots of 3 mana ramp, maybe they'll print something even better by then
@@CDShapArchdruid's charm, maybe
a 30 dollar simic burn deck in standard? This doesn't sound like a phrase that should exist
I think it should!
And yet, here we are.
@@Goldy01 it SHROUD!
When you cast dopplegang for the first time and need to find the next one, copy as many spelunkings as possible and 1 bounce desert.
bounce desert trigger on top, all returning deserts. (1 bounce desert and 2, that give you the GU you need for the next doppelgang. The others are whatever you want, just remember to tap the tokens for mana before bouncing them.)
-> surveil a bunch.
Now with each spelunking trigger, bring the bounc desert into play, tap it for mana and return it to hand for more surveiling. You only need the other deserts, to get GU.
This way, you dig as deep as possible, while generating as much mana as possible.
O my God . beautiful combo but so tiresome to resolve.
The bounce desert returns another desert, it cannot return itself.
@@rubentadeogarcia5424bounce returns any land. If you return a desert you get to surveil
@@gusstotts6079 Well, a small error anyways. You only get the surveil if you return ANOTHER desert. So you nmeed 2 Archways bouncing each other for my scenario to get the full surveil digging... Not that THAT should be much of a problem.
@@gusstotts6079 I had to reread it you're mostly right. It can bounce itself, but it only surveils if you bounce another desert.
Desert Ramp decks have honestly been my favorite decks to emerge from this standard. There are so many different ways to build them, and the desert ramp package allows for a really diverse budget brewing package! I've done brews with Oko crimes, desert burn, Goose Mother, Bant Control, etc. Definitely my new favorite archetype from the set!
Plus the Desert packages for Brawl and Commander are as good as the Gate packages now, and more fun!
I think there are times when Seth could just win in the first dopplegang just ramping out and reanimating deserts but he throws it away being too focused on searching for another dopplegang
"hey seth how did you build simic burn"
"The secret ingredient is crime [lands]"
TIL Gre is how you spell Greg
Just like how Gray spells Gary
Seth is famed for his ability to pronounce words
@user-rq7rc8hu1p Gary is not a Sethism. He's been Gary, Merchant of Asphodel since he was spoiled.
It’s better than “Gregg.” …yuck.
Because it's a storm-style desert combo deck, I'd call it Sandstorm
How Derude of you 😂
Please do the non budget version would be sick deck tech was awesome definitely gonna build it
6:53 it does work fine if you're leyline binding, you just had to put the bounce triggers on top so the land would be in your hand before the spelunking returned from exile. Just like at 10:00 where you really should have stacked the triggers better, alternate bounce and spelunking so you can just keep replaying the same crime land and bouncing it again
"since we drew the untapped land" he said with a spelunking on the board
I believe this deck is my spirit animal. If it just has Hurkyls Final Meditation it would be perfect. Seth, you're a genius..the best kind too, the eccentric genius. Love ya Brother!
Ive been using meditation in temur world soul😅
Why do you wanna play that card?
As I see it, it's a way too expensive fog+counter spell that exiles itself.. what am I missing?
@@Goldy01 you literally end their turn... You could end their turn on their untap step they would be left with open mana but if they tap out n in response you cast mediation you not only end the turn but also counter the spell they just tapped out for effectively skipping their turn which could be a huge swing in momentum.... Sometimes all the temur worldsoul land combo deck needs is one more turn to win or gain enough life to not lose and meditation fills that roll really well and the deck supports the mana required to cast it on their turn
Believe that error was a "GReater than or Equal Error", since it was unexpected (not handled properly) it defaulted to drawing the match and ending it.
This is one of my absolute favorite decks you've ever made. And budget too.
the 3 mana tatyova seems like it'd be a good alternate wincon for this deck
Now THIS is the content we're subscribed for.
The deck is very unique
❤🎉🎉😮
Nice change on a lands deck :D Regarding the musings for non-budget: Advantage of bant is you can run Kutzil in the sideboard to keep enemy counters off. Bant jsut seems more resilient to me.
And grand abolisher now! And like he was saying Sunfall, but Depopulate is probably reasonable enough, especially with how fast something like boros convoke can build a board. Although I guess in this deck the difference of 1 mana in exchange for having a body and the exile is probably reasonable. Just musing on the potential.
this is the reason why I miss whirlwind denial. The satisfaction of the triggers just fizzling into thin air
This seems like it should be a Brewer's Kitchen video.
Naw, Phil's decks are jankier than this
Yes I have been waiting for this deck since I heard about the crime lands
I'm legit considering making this deck in paper standard 😂 love simic burn
A few years ago i set out to build a commader deck that kills ppl with landfall this deck makes me very happy
Find yourself someone that looks at you the way Seth looks at Doppelgang
This is probably my favorite brew I've seen on the channel. Doppelgang is the best card wotc ever made
Seth these jank dopelgang decks are just so dang cool- Simic burn, what a time to be alive- kudos!!!
Call the deck Doppleburn! Just wanted to say thank you for all you do, and you made me fall in love with dopplegang in the last budget deck. Can't wait to build this!
"Simic burn"... We have come so long that we finnally circled around to blue being the other burn color xD Awesome deck. I'll be happy to watch all your spicy dopplegang brews
First Simic burn deck I ever saw, it is awesome and pretty ridiculous :)
Are we allowed to blame Seth for triggering inflation in property prices for Crime Lands?
This is outstanding, I love it. Thanks for the video!
Your creativity never ceases to surprise me, great work!
There is exactly 1 spell currently in standard that has an X mana cost that allows you burn face. It also just so happens to be a Ramp spell as well. If you run a full playset of the Red/Green Desert, you can reliably cast Worldsoul's Rage as a big Banefire to the face. It basically Functions as that second playset of Dopplegang.
Light up the night can shoot face too
I think that for max damage you should alternate bounce land triggers with Splunking triggers. This would allow you to ping the opponent with each couple of triggers even if you only have one desert: bounce the desert, put it in play, tap for mana, and bounce it again with the next tigger
Been playing a similar brew to this for a week, really taking advantage of Dance of the Tumbleweed, Glimpse the Core, and Joint Exploration's 2cmc mana value with Arcane Proxy to flashback those spells.
ok, that is an amazing brew 👍
Thanks!
I was expecting an error on X=7. I thought the game doesn't even like X=5 but you did it and the game survived the first one.
Yeah, unfortunately I've drawn way too many matches on Arena thanks to doppelgang causing an error. And it never feels consistent with when it happens. One of my favorite cards, but Arena just struggles to handle it.
Greg is the only software developer at the small indie company WotC.
Worst Engineer at my last job was named Greg. In spirit I assume this is him.
The best part about this combo is since the way the lands are worded arena targets them for you and you don't have to click a million times.
Yesss! Triggers go on the stack a little slow since it still has to target, but very thankful for it being able to do it automatically.
I think this might be the coolest and hardest to understand deck I have seen on this channel
Seth running some REAL pain lands, lol.
*Thanks for the Content!*
I was hoping to brew a similar deck and send it over, but time hasn't been on my side lately (moving house soon). Glad you managed to make something work in Standard where I was struggling to have ideas (and somehow forgot about Doppelgang!)
My main idea as been for Explorer and trying to get a combo turn out of cards like Scapeshift, World Shaper, Aftermath Analyst, and my favourite jank pairing of Mending of Dominaria into Fall of the Thran. Diabolic Intent works great with World Shaper and Stitcher's Supplier, too. There's a bunch of small synergy that feels good, I just haven't figured out the best combo pieces or amount of each card yet.
Sharing for all to see. Let me know below if you want to give it a try and come up with something that works!
Great video, I love your janky budget build decks and all you do for the community. Played your 36 Wraith deck and loved it because it helped me with the Arena daily challenge to destroy opponents creatures. I was wondering if you would consider making more budget decks geared towards completing the Arena daily challenges.
Huh, I've never considered that, but building decks for the challenges could be a cool idea.
Outside of the "cast x color or color spells" quests, there's attacking with creatures, playing lands, and killing opponents creatures. The playing lands I believe has to be you actually playing the land from hand, so the only thing that really speeds it up is "play additional land" effects.
And for attack with creatures I believe you have to actually declare them as attackers, so creating attacking creatures/putting creature into play attacking don't work iirc.
For destroy/kill creatures, I don't remember if exiling them counts towards the quest or not, but potentially something to keep in mind if you are trying to work on that one.
doppelgang is such a sweet card and i love the synnergy with ping deserts
I started watching for the lulz. Now I just can't stop watching it dominate. This is what I call deckbuilding
I was killed by this deck last week. Had me laughing the whole time trying to explain to my non-MTG-playing friends on Discord that this was not normal, haha
Edit: The version I lost to was Bant. Elesh made sure those lands killed me double time.
Me apologizing to my more casual friends every time I play doppelgang against them lol
A worthy successor to the caves doppelgang deck. Already looking forward to the next set's broken doppelgang deck :~)
Yup, I absolutely fell in love with Doppelgang after seeing the caves video, built it myself, made a modified version for historic, one of my favorite decks to play (when it doesn't end in a draw error lol) definitely going to consider building this deck
Doppleburn cool, more reason Dopplegang is more broken than people think.
it really is. I can't tell you how many times I've had it in a combo deck and just won by copying 3-4 of the opponents things just because it is a kill.
I think even if Doppelgang read that X is just how many targets it has, i still think it would have been a decent card.
@@MsMiDC maybe xx not xxx
@@jaydavidrn82 yeah the xxx is costly, that is true
@@MsMiDC maybe they should make another card that costs 4+x copy x permanents you may choose the same permanent more than once?
buried in the garden is a ramp enchantment that also removes if you dip into white
I just tried building a self-mill desert combo, inspired by this build. It's not standard legal, but it's really fun. You drop a Hedron Crab, mill a half dozen lands into your graveyard, Aftermath Analyst them back, mill some more off the new lands, get back enough mana for your Scapeshift in hand, sac your World Shaper to your Altar of Dementia, and eventually go from 4 or 5 mana on turn 4, to 20 or so on turn 5 (or even still turn 4).
Then, if you need to, you can always Dopplegang to mill or burn or just make several copies of whatever they're doing. It's a blast.
Nothing like hearing ultra budget and 16 rare in the same sentence lol
Womp womp.
It’s ultra budget… on anything but arena. Because arena’s economy doesn’t care about the secondary market.
@@Cheerwine091 at least I don't have to mortgage my house to get a Mana base
@@viserproductions1 mana base for what though? D: and i made this deck! took all my rares, and i still needed a couple more. to the shop i went... granted, still cheaper than normal mtg.
@@ketchubb how the deck fares for you? I still short 4 rare atm for crafting this deck :(
This was awesome!! Seth is the goat! The goat you hear me. Perseverance is the hallmark of a champion 😭💚💚💚💚
I know its not really needed but the way you stack these triggers could be far more efficient by stacking the spelunking triggers between the bounce land triggers you can pick up and putdown the same few desert lands pinging the opp each time also tapping them before returning them to generate mana for the next dopplegang or frontier. I think the deck is sweet and I love it. And again I am not sure its needed but if you wanted to be efficient that is probably the best thing to maximize damage to close a game instead of hoping for a scry into another combo enabler. That said sweet deck Seth and I plan to make one. what about Nissa in the deck could this mean that you could win earler if you have her since she would see all these lands. Somewhere between the temur worldsoul deck and this is a crazy land as your only damage win deck lol.
Thanks for content!
i see simic 🔥 i click. i like that it doesnt depend on graveyard.
Subarashi seth, this is a hilarious deck, and I def want to try it out, just need more rare wild cards
this is the best MTG related thing I've ever seen
The funny thing is that this list is basically 90% there when it comes to supporting three colors, at least as far as the mana base is concerned. Just tweak your crime lands a bit and swap a single basic and you've easily got 7-8 sources in your third color (since the Pylons are filter lands).
My green-blue commander deck has burn as one of its win cons. It has 10 infinite mana combos and 6 pieces of repeatable draw, so the win con depends on what it draws first. So all its win cons assume I already have unlimited mana and can draw cards at will. That combo is Unyaro Bee Sting, Soothsaying, and Reito Lantern. Cast Unyaro Bee Sting for 2 damage, tuck it with Reito Lantern, put it back to the top with Soothsaying, draw it, and repeat.
In a ramp vs ramp matchup, the deck that goes bigger wins. So Domain should be a good matchup for this deck.
looking forward to the sultai follow up video
7:33 watching Seth cast Dance of the Tumbleweeds and THEN get 3 more lands out after hurt my soul
I want to see the non budget version! This was a wild ride! Yeeeee haaaaaw, pardner!
What's next? Mono white ramp?!
I love the slap lands
Ooo, I like this name. Rolls of the tongue better than crime land
This deck is a spiritual successor to the Great Aurora deck you made during Shadows Over Innistrad Standard.
A burn deck so good, it's gotta be a crime!
so you can stack the triggers so you vou bounce a single crime land and put it back into play, then repeat. You don't have to have each type of trigger happen together.
You don't surveil unless you return *another* Desert, though.
Yeah that's true, but you can just alternate bounce lands if you have two
@@bondeulv The crime lands are deserts?
Doppelganger is way up there in my list of favorite new cards.
When Spelunking was revealed my initial reaction was "oh. that's gonna be broken. i don't think it's broken now, but it's gonna be before too long". then they added bounce lands to standard.
nice deck, i have to say, i love these cheese decks much more than any top tier bs, pla keep bringing creative ideas like that!
Add red and you can pick up Worldsoul Rage (x damage to any target; put x land cards from hand and/or gy onto battlefield tapped, which are then untapped from Spelunking); this deck can already reach 20 mana and that would close the game immediately. Alternatively, at 14 mana you can Dopplegang for 3 then rr1 for Return the Favor and copy it. By going into black, you can Dig Up and use the cleave cost to find a copy of Dopplegang. Either way, I concur--by the time you hit 11 mana you have probably already won the game. With a little tweaking, this could be adapated for Pioneer to take advantage of landfall triggers and be even more broken.
Seth, you are a man after my own heart.
I was trying to build a deck using the crime deserts as the wincon. Trying to mill and recur them.
This is definitely more fun
I wonder if the Sandstorm Verge shouldn't be an echoing depths. It's minor but it could help a small bit with aggro, if you can bounce and replay while Spelunking is out, plus it has some minor combos with copying lands in the yard.
Of course if you go non-budget then it's likely better off as a Festering Gulch/Creosote Heath, depending on which color direction you go.
So technically for full efficiency you create some level of alternation between spelunking and bounce triggers to make sure you can always return deserts to surveil and also maximize pings.
This is a tough balance to make sure you hit enough surveils to draws to dig as deep as possible
I think this is the deck that gets me back into arena :D
I haven't wanted to play Standard in a VERY LONG TIME but a BUG version of this with no budget restriction in standard sounds fun if you build it I need to know lol
I believe the article for the deck on the website (should be a link to it in the description) has the suggested changes/upgrades for a BUG version.
This is a sick deck, nice one staff 👌
Oh man, such an instant classic!
So, I saw your first 2 games, instantly started working on a Yarok Edh version of this
Would love to see an against the odds with caustic bronco, using cards that cost 15+ mana and brainstorm and such to manipulate the top of your library to hit opponent for 15 in one atack
We have Yuriko at home
It's a fun deck, I tried it out with a variation of 2 rattlewurm and 2 bonnie pall because not enough wildcards. And added 4 outcaster greenblade and 4 spinewood armadillo wich saved me in tight spots. And I'm playing alchemy with a smaller rotation set. And I like the casual way moew
Great idea...greate deck...love it
I knew you were gonna punt the first dopp by wanting to go spelunking in game 2. Love ya lolol
Definitely looks like something I'd MUCH rather play on paper than on Arena. Absolutely love the concept though, since Simic is my favorite color combination and there's something hilarious to me about using ramping itself to kill the opponent.
This deck is absolute gold
I'd call this deck Arhcway Combo. Tried to build it myself and never even considered doppelgang.
I'm running this deck with Worldsoul's Rage and it's basically a second wincon, with Doppelgang make a bunch of mana and use Worldsoul's Rage to kill them, and if by any reason they still have life, you always can play extra Lands from hand/grave to do more damage
Someone played this style of desert deck against me but with Cultivator colossus and other fatties. It was so sick and quick
to fight against aggro you could put some caves in the build for lifegain off spelunking. Echoing deeps is a great addition to copy deserts or surv lands when you're going off.
I am playing a Historic version of this with Primeval Titans. Its just as effective there. Salty roped all three of the opponent's timers first game.
This deck is sweeeeet, I was thinking to maybe add some Slickshot Lockpickers to be able to flashback the Doppelgang and hit the combo kill more reliably.
SUPER AMAZING DECK.