Depends on writer. Spider man in the mainline continuity got beat by fucking vulture once. And that was recent. Current modern Spider-Man gets slapped by like half of Batman's rouges.
Honestly, Batman can't even handle his own rouges gallery. At his best, he can barely beat them while they're just playing games. Ps. Mephisto is one of Spiderman's rouges, and last time I checked, Batman can't solo a Darkseid level threat.
Half Batman's rogues gallery (Scarecrow, Joker, Riddler, etc) are not physical threats. Their intelligence, talent for chaos and mayhem and their ability to attack batman on a more personal level than just hitting him hard are what make them a threat. Yes, Spiderman could body Joker with little effort (so could batman), but have him try to figure out and stop one of Joker's schemes and he would fail. Batman is the world's greatest detective and has had years of experience dealing with Joker, yet he is always caught off guard by Joker's tricks Spiderman would not survive Scarecrow either. Batman has spent years honing and fortifying his mind to the limits of it's capabilities and even he struggles against fear toxin. What hope does Spiderman have. The same applies to most of Batman's rogues gallery. While a significant portion of batman's villains can pose a physical threat, very few of them rely on physical power power to beat batman. Most of batman's villains attack batman's mind, intelligence and moral code. That's why they are such a threat.
That’s just wrong. The only time Batman’s rogues pose that much of a threat to him is when they have some sort of amp or extensive prep. Otherwise, Batman has been shown several times casually finding and defeating his rogues.
@@nathansteele4358if he used it for too long. None of Spider-Man’s villains would be able to come close to putting up a fight against it and would all get one shot unless you really stretch who you consider a “Spider-Man Villain”
@@nathansteele4358 you say that like it would take a long time to take down all the villains he almost died after a fight with darkseid none of spideys villains are darkseid level
Mysterio and Carnage would likely give Batman the most trouble given that Mysterio specializes in mindf*ckey and misdirection, while Carnage is a near unstable slasher villain that is a pure nihilist that kills because he enjoys it with none of the gimmicks or theatrics of most Batman villains. Sandman and Hyodroman's powers would cause Batman a great deal of trouble as would the Spot.
What you are forgetting, though. Is that Spider-Man's villains? Don't usually go at him one at a time. They gang up on him. What makes you think that they are not gonna do the same to batman?And that batman's gonna survive
Batman has faced worse odds and came out ontop against stronger teams. Worse case scenario, he uses the Justice buster and slaps every one of Pete’s rogues with a fistful of miniaturized stars.
People think the only way batman wins anything is with prep time. Not true. Batman already did the prepping. Hes just always prepared. His "prep time" is just him getting a basic understanding of whos hes fighting and thats not asking for a lot. Batman would overstimulate spidermans senses and then surpirse him and kick his shit in. And unlike spideman glazers may say, hes not taking batman down in 1 punch. He takes insanely hard punches all the time and spiderman isn't a killer Edit: Bruce wayne could also kick spiderman out of his apartment
Just a back and fourth of Doc and Bruce making gadgets to counter each other. “You make a gadget to disable my arms? Well I made my arms use a different power source” “you use a different power source for your arms? Now I’ll make a EMP for that source to.”
Also, Green Goblin was created through a serum. His insanity is a sickness that can apparently be cured in a lab. Joker was created by tragedy so extreme that it shattered his mind.
Don't you think Batman and Spidey are absolutely different? One has no powers but technical financial ability and experience to fight crime. And best villains for Bats are not superhumans but somebody like Joker or Twoface with tons of dark societal references. While Spidey's is a story of a youth learning to handle great power with great responsibility, and his best moments are when he's tempted by symbiot or overpowered by Sinister Six imho
@@ortancold Kingpin is not all that. He’d get taken down with nerve strikes. Or bombs. Maybe dangle him from the batwing while flying around at Mach 10. Or Batman could simply deploy his robot JL & let them take Fisk down. Kingpin is kinda fodder.
picturing Batman trying to fight goblin is quite comical. Considering goblin could punch Bruce’s head off through any block batsy tries to put up. People don’t realize most of Spider-Man’s villains are geniuses that are 10x stronger than bane. Batman is not a good matchup here. That’s okay though! I miss the old days when Batman was a street level hero. This whole prep time nonsense is way out of hand. I can beat anybody on the planet in combat with a little prep time and billions of dollars worth of equipment. Doesn’t make me special. Shoot give me a lead pipe and I can bring you John cena in a bag. I’d hide in the shadows and strike when he doesn’t expect it, like a pu**y. Also like a Batman. Spidey could no-sweat Batman’s whole rouge gallery at once with zero prep. Aside from maybe clayface or poison ivy. They’re both done one on one though.
Except goblin couldn’t. Bruce has tanked attacks from stronger, Goblin isn’t going to magically accomplish a feat martial artists in Dc train specifically to avoid via reinforcing and shifting there chi at the point of impact. Superhuman attacks are nothing new to martial artists of Bruce’s caliber. The old days? What days were those exactly? It wasn’t any recent continuity, even in the 90’s he was still beating God tier beings and performing magnificent feats of prep. And he certainly wasn’t street level in the 30’s/40’s, he was literally the first Dc character to fight monsters, travel different dimensions, and fight magic beings. Is the strictly street level hero in the room with us? Did that version of Batman ever really exists or did you just make it up? Stealth is smart. Irrespective of how you feel about it, it’d be unwise to engage your enemy head on when overpowered. Spiderman himself has used stealth plenty of times, I suppose what you said also applies to him? Failsafe/Zur, Gotham, Batmite are just three of Batman’s villains that Pete would have no chance against without prep. Even with prep, Batmite will not go down.
@@silver______ Y'all realize when you say "with prep time" sound like small children who could not accept they lose? "I have an super duper armor that makes me invencible" y'all sound like that
@@FrinnP1F Good thing none of Batman’s armors make him invincible. Prep was a condition included in the video, so it’s valid to mention; even then, I barely mentioned it. I’d much rather sound like that than live with the notion that fights are as simple as a boxing or MMA match with superpowers. The addition of prep makes discussions more interesting and is more indicative of how a tactician would engage in battle-not just for Batman, but for most intelligent characters. I understand that’s a lot for some to digest, so treating these characters like action figures makes it easier than actually analyzing them, their gear, and what they could bring to the fight, whether it’s 5 minutes or no minutes. In reality, if you’re fighting fair, you aren’t fighting right. That’s a basic rule of combat. Usually, the person complaining about means of victory is the one who can’t accept loss. And I’m not complaining. But one of us is. I find it funny. Did you read what I said? Because you’d know the only thing I mentioned about Batman with prep is how he’s always employed it. The only time I said “with prep” verbatim was in relation to Spider-Man, giving him a fair shake against Bat-Mite.
@@silver______ Except prep time always equals Batman pulls some random deux ex machina gadget out of his arse and then wins with zero difficulty while his opponent forgets how to use their brain or even fight. How about accepting that Batman is a overpowered Gary stu despite having no powers who never loses because he’s smarter than everyone else forgetting the amount of characters that can easily outsmart him if they weren’t written like morons every time they interact with him. Except joker, Batman always struggles against him despite fighting him for years and should know how he operates (like a actual smart person would) but always gets caught off guard by joker’s schemes even though he’s just a crazy clown man who shouldn’t be nowhere near as smart as Batman and shouldn’t have the means nor money to counter his tech, gadgets and skills yet he still gets the jump on Batman even if he plans ahead of everything and has lots of money invested into his technology and gadgets. I would probably prefer a story that is well written with characters that actually have to think while in a fight, they can plan ahead but are flexible enough to make changes depending on the situation or if their plan fails and don’t always have a way to instantly win, having to improvise and adapt on the fly would show far more skill and intelligence than everyone being brain dead while the “smart” character pulls out the anti-villain device perfectly made to counter their abilities and a plan that goes 100% perfect with no errors or need to change tactics since the villains are also brain dead, who completely fall apart when against the most basic strategies.
Respectfully, this is just straight up wrong man. Goblin and Doc Ock were beating Tobey for half of the movie and Tobey's the strongest live-action Spidey. Nolanverse Batman (The one you keep featuring) got his back broken by Bane who relies on painkillers and steroids to survive.
Wheres your scaling "rhino would be to strong" yet Batman fights Superman level threats his base suit has took damage form superman level threats even his own villains like grundy who hes able to one shot boxes with lanterns and Shazam level fighters batman has shock gauntlets able to let him punch away superman
I honestly think him and Spiderman are at worst equals in everything if not batman having better feats when you compare i think people get to caught up on batman being a " normal human" and spiderman being super human that they don't realize they share a lot of feats in physical
@@ThegrandKrild batman in recent canon comics fell straight from space with no injury and he's been shown with his gauntlets no kryptonite needed knocking supes on his ass stop down playing cause you don't like his feats
@@LetsTalkComicsHQ just did a quick looking at your channel and I can see that now with your other videos topics with no need for it but with a vid like this basically a bunch of vs battles how do you not scale like again with rhino your just saying he should be way stronger with no backing for that no disrespect but kinda just saying shit and then without power scaling it's should be as simple as one answer "batman win. Why? Cause he's a main character on the main timeline so he has to win"
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But Spiderman could solo Batman’s rogues gallery without prep time. Right? Tell me i am wrong.
Most of them yeah but there 4 atleast that he can straigh up win ,1.poison ivy,2 mr freeze ,3.bane and 4 death stroke.
Batman solos his own rogues gallery
Depends on writer. Spider man in the mainline continuity got beat by fucking vulture once. And that was recent. Current modern Spider-Man gets slapped by like half of Batman's rouges.
Batmite slams, poison ivy slams, Deathstroke slams
Spider-Man does it with no prep and no problem. You're right.
Honestly, Batman can't even handle his own rouges gallery. At his best, he can barely beat them while they're just playing games.
Ps. Mephisto is one of Spiderman's rouges, and last time I checked, Batman can't solo a Darkseid level threat.
Half Batman's rogues gallery (Scarecrow, Joker, Riddler, etc) are not physical threats. Their intelligence, talent for chaos and mayhem and their ability to attack batman on a more personal level than just hitting him hard are what make them a threat.
Yes, Spiderman could body Joker with little effort (so could batman), but have him try to figure out and stop one of Joker's schemes and he would fail. Batman is the world's greatest detective and has had years of experience dealing with Joker, yet he is always caught off guard by Joker's tricks
Spiderman would not survive Scarecrow either. Batman has spent years honing and fortifying his mind to the limits of it's capabilities and even he struggles against fear toxin. What hope does Spiderman have.
The same applies to most of Batman's rogues gallery. While a significant portion of batman's villains can pose a physical threat, very few of them rely on physical power power to beat batman. Most of batman's villains attack batman's mind, intelligence and moral code. That's why they are such a threat.
Ok then tell me when Spider-Man beat up Mephisto in base form?
That’s just wrong. The only time Batman’s rogues pose that much of a threat to him is when they have some sort of amp or extensive prep.
Otherwise, Batman has been shown several times casually finding and defeating his rogues.
>batman is the most glaz3d comic book character
You never neet sonic and his fans
I think Batman don't need preptime to beat spiderman villain,just use hellbat,justice buster or maybe insider suit and he can beat them
Hell bat is a little overkill don’t you think
@@LetsTalkComicsHQsame if he decided to swap powers with Superman
Hellbat would kill Batman wearing it
@@nathansteele4358if he used it for too long. None of Spider-Man’s villains would be able to come close to putting up a fight against it and would all get one shot unless you really stretch who you consider a “Spider-Man Villain”
@@nathansteele4358 you say that like it would take a long time to take down all the villains he almost died after a fight with darkseid none of spideys villains are darkseid level
With prep time, Batman might be able to somewhat keep up with Kraven...........maybe.
Mysterio and Carnage would likely give Batman the most trouble given that Mysterio specializes in mindf*ckey and misdirection, while Carnage is a near unstable slasher villain that is a pure nihilist that kills because he enjoys it with none of the gimmicks or theatrics of most Batman villains. Sandman and Hyodroman's powers would cause Batman a great deal of trouble as would the Spot.
What you are forgetting, though. Is that Spider-Man's villains? Don't usually go at him one at a time. They gang up on him. What makes you think that they are not gonna do the same to batman?And that batman's gonna survive
Prep Timeeee, he will make sure they alone
@@LetsTalkComicsHQhaving dr octopus helps a lot to keep the team together
So when we are doing a HYPOTHETICAL scenario you just have to bring in the sinister six
@@ThegrandKrild you act like the six are together at all times and sleep in bunk beds with each other they will separate at some point
Batman has faced worse odds and came out ontop against stronger teams.
Worse case scenario, he uses the Justice buster and slaps every one of Pete’s rogues with a fistful of miniaturized stars.
People think the only way batman wins anything is with prep time. Not true. Batman already did the prepping. Hes just always prepared. His "prep time" is just him getting a basic understanding of whos hes fighting and thats not asking for a lot. Batman would overstimulate spidermans senses and then surpirse him and kick his shit in. And unlike spideman glazers may say, hes not taking batman down in 1 punch. He takes insanely hard punches all the time and spiderman isn't a killer
Edit: Bruce wayne could also kick spiderman out of his apartment
Lizard is simmilar to *two* BAtman villains. Croc and Manbat
I love this concept!
No. No he wont. Its the exact opposite.
Nope he would he’s Batman just watch the video
Nah spider-man would be able to do most of them without prep time 😂
With prep he could probably get all of them.
2:30 Wouldn't Doc Oct create an anti hacking upgrade to counter the counter. Batman doesn't kill so he'd get his chance.
Just a back and fourth of Doc and Bruce making gadgets to counter each other. “You make a gadget to disable my arms? Well I made my arms use a different power source” “you use a different power source for your arms? Now I’ll make a EMP for that source to.”
My G Batman can hack new God tech, I don’t think Otto is winning that one.
5:49 Why didn't he ever do that for Joker?
Plot
Also, Green Goblin was created through a serum. His insanity is a sickness that can apparently be cured in a lab.
Joker was created by tragedy so extreme that it shattered his mind.
The glazing is true
Don't you think Batman and Spidey are absolutely different? One has no powers but technical financial ability and experience to fight crime. And best villains for Bats are not superhumans but somebody like Joker or Twoface with tons of dark societal references. While Spidey's is a story of a youth learning to handle great power with great responsibility, and his best moments are when he's tempted by symbiot or overpowered by Sinister Six imho
Batman can beat all his with prep time, but Spider-Man would beat all of his at the same time. They are not the same.
Arkham Batman says hello.
Yes, but that’s not the point of the video.😂
Batmite, Gotham and Failsafe/Zur would each individually beat Spiderman.
@@silver______ honestly Batman would lose to the kingpin.
@@ortancold Kingpin is not all that.
He’d get taken down with nerve strikes.
Or bombs.
Maybe dangle him from the batwing while flying around at Mach 10.
Or Batman could simply deploy his robot JL & let them take Fisk down.
Kingpin is kinda fodder.
picturing Batman trying to fight goblin is quite comical. Considering goblin could punch Bruce’s head off through any block batsy tries to put up. People don’t realize most of Spider-Man’s villains are geniuses that are 10x stronger than bane.
Batman is not a good matchup here. That’s okay though! I miss the old days when Batman was a street level hero. This whole prep time nonsense is way out of hand. I can beat anybody on the planet in combat with a little prep time and billions of dollars worth of equipment. Doesn’t make me special. Shoot give me a lead pipe and I can bring you John cena in a bag. I’d hide in the shadows and strike when he doesn’t expect it, like a pu**y. Also like a Batman.
Spidey could no-sweat Batman’s whole rouge gallery at once with zero prep. Aside from maybe clayface or poison ivy. They’re both done one on one though.
Except goblin couldn’t.
Bruce has tanked attacks from stronger, Goblin isn’t going to magically accomplish a feat martial artists in Dc train specifically to avoid via reinforcing and shifting there chi at the point of impact.
Superhuman attacks are nothing new to martial artists of Bruce’s caliber.
The old days?
What days were those exactly? It wasn’t any recent continuity, even in the 90’s he was still beating God tier beings and performing magnificent feats of prep.
And he certainly wasn’t street level in the 30’s/40’s, he was literally the first Dc character to fight monsters, travel different dimensions, and fight magic beings.
Is the strictly street level hero in the room with us? Did that version of Batman ever really exists or did you just make it up?
Stealth is smart. Irrespective of how you feel about it, it’d be unwise to engage your enemy head on when overpowered. Spiderman himself has used stealth plenty of times, I suppose what you said also applies to him?
Failsafe/Zur, Gotham, Batmite are just three of Batman’s villains that Pete would have no chance against without prep. Even with prep, Batmite will not go down.
@@silver______ Don't reason with the stupid he can't understand what your saying
@@silver______ Y'all realize when you say "with prep time" sound like small children who could not accept they lose? "I have an super duper armor that makes me invencible" y'all sound like that
@@FrinnP1F Good thing none of Batman’s armors make him invincible. Prep was a condition included in the video, so it’s valid to mention; even then, I barely mentioned it.
I’d much rather sound like that than live with the notion that fights are as simple as a boxing or MMA match with superpowers. The addition of prep makes discussions more interesting and is more indicative of how a tactician would engage in battle-not just for Batman, but for most intelligent characters. I understand that’s a lot for some to digest, so treating these characters like action figures makes it easier than actually analyzing them, their gear, and what they could bring to the fight, whether it’s 5 minutes or no minutes.
In reality, if you’re fighting fair, you aren’t fighting right. That’s a basic rule of combat.
Usually, the person complaining about means of victory is the one who can’t accept loss. And I’m not complaining. But one of us is.
I find it funny. Did you read what I said? Because you’d know the only thing I mentioned about Batman with prep is how he’s always employed it. The only time I said “with prep” verbatim was in relation to Spider-Man, giving him a fair shake against Bat-Mite.
@@silver______ Except prep time always equals Batman pulls some random deux ex machina gadget out of his arse and then wins with zero difficulty while his opponent forgets how to use their brain or even fight. How about accepting that Batman is a overpowered Gary stu despite having no powers who never loses because he’s smarter than everyone else forgetting the amount of characters that can easily outsmart him if they weren’t written like morons every time they interact with him. Except joker, Batman always struggles against him despite fighting him for years and should know how he operates (like a actual smart person would) but always gets caught off guard by joker’s schemes even though he’s just a crazy clown man who shouldn’t be nowhere near as smart as Batman and shouldn’t have the means nor money to counter his tech, gadgets and skills yet he still gets the jump on Batman even if he plans ahead of everything and has lots of money invested into his technology and gadgets. I would probably prefer a story that is well written with characters that actually have to think while in a fight, they can plan ahead but are flexible enough to make changes depending on the situation or if their plan fails and don’t always have a way to instantly win, having to improvise and adapt on the fly would show far more skill and intelligence than everyone being brain dead while the “smart” character pulls out the anti-villain device perfectly made to counter their abilities and a plan that goes 100% perfect with no errors or need to change tactics since the villains are also brain dead, who completely fall apart when against the most basic strategies.
Yo bro Next Video Please do! What if Homelander was Teleported To the Marvel Universe!
Respectfully, this is just straight up wrong man. Goblin and Doc Ock were beating Tobey for half of the movie and Tobey's the strongest live-action Spidey. Nolanverse Batman (The one you keep featuring) got his back broken by Bane who relies on painkillers and steroids to survive.
Wheres your scaling "rhino would be to strong" yet Batman fights Superman level threats his base suit has took damage form superman level threats even his own villains like grundy who hes able to one shot boxes with lanterns and Shazam level fighters batman has shock gauntlets able to let him punch away superman
I honestly think him and Spiderman are at worst equals in everything if not batman having better feats when you compare i think people get to caught up on batman being a " normal human" and spiderman being super human that they don't realize they share a lot of feats in physical
I’m Not a power scaler
Batman dies from falling from a roof
And Batman always uses a green rock or pure plot armor
@@ThegrandKrild batman in recent canon comics fell straight from space with no injury and he's been shown with his gauntlets no kryptonite needed knocking supes on his ass stop down playing cause you don't like his feats
@@LetsTalkComicsHQ just did a quick looking at your channel and I can see that now with your other videos topics with no need for it but with a vid like this basically a bunch of vs battles how do you not scale like again with rhino your just saying he should be way stronger with no backing for that no disrespect but kinda just saying shit and then without power scaling it's should be as simple as one answer "batman win. Why? Cause he's a main character on the main timeline so he has to win"