€200 vs. €2000 Bow Challenge! (Archery)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video we have an amateur archer shoot his 2000 euro professional equipment, against a professional archer with 200 euro amateur equipment! Will expensive win over cheap in our sport of archery? We took the challenge so you don't have to! / dutchbowstore
We had a lot of fun making this, and hope you will enjoy watching it just as much!
Sjef his setup:
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Bow Manufacturers HATE Him!
CORE Archery loves the video ;)
@@-fazik-3713 😂 and get serious,get hoyt.
Interesting to see the same test at 70m, because 18m didn't tell the whole story. Please make a video of it!
Yeaa sjef. 70m pls 😁
I want to now, too!
@@AbdHarisVlog Haven't you see him shooting 70m before? 😂
They mentioned longer distance in a follow-up already in the end of the video
There would be no real difference If the spine of the arrows is right
As a beginner this is an encouraging video. It proves that you don't have to spend a lot of money to get a good shooting bow, which is great news for a beginner like myself. Thx for the vid.
Do you have any friends who only blame their equipment? Send them this video :D
Well, we had no chance to see it first, because it’s a premiere. 😊
But I can’t wait to see why I wasted so much money on a bow.
Edit: So if the bow works it works, everything else is shiny material and perhaps a view percent performance.
Now I feel bad about my birthday present. 😢Thanks.
I did not expect that much of a difference ... maybe do the same but Sjef vs Steve ? Ah scratch that ... too short a distance to make any difference ...
Anyway this was hilarious ... MORE OF THESE PLEASE !!!!
Sometimes I blame the wind.
@@supersonikk eat less beans
@@SpressoX3 you sir are my hero😂😂😂👌
Ideally, should have had the same archer use both bows, would have been a better comparison. But its always good to burst the 'more expensive must be better' bubble.
Yeah we wanted to make it a fun video, wasn't meant as a science experiment :) thanks for watching!
I think Sjef actually has hit better with that wood bow than with his - he should stop wasting money on useless expensive equipment and start using some "serious" cheap bows .
I would expect him to beat Brady with a wood bow anytime and after that , Hoyt should set themselves on fire with their own hand (!)
Or Hoyt will ask "nicely" this video to be removed FOREVER from public view (!)
@@TripleTroubleArchery and it would had put you in sponsorship political issue if it resulted by a lower score with your Hoyt, as you scored the max on the initial one . :) :)
You’re right. For me I wasn’t even the interested in what happened with the better bow. I assume Sjef could do at least as well with a better bow, but if he can shoot all 10s with the cheap bow then that’s all I need to know.
@@gvaly699 😂
Eye-opening for equipment chasers. Thanks for the video. A LOT!
Great content! Fun and eye-opening for many, including myself. No matter how 2000€ bow was shot, Sjef hit perhaps only 2 9's, all the rest were 10's with just 200€ bow. That is amazing performance!
They were all scored as 10s, two were marginal, the rest were pretty much in the X ring.
Glad to see that Sjef and Jaap are having fun, even if Sjef is winning with a 200€ bow. It's ok Jaap we would be cursing too.
Great, now I have nothing to blame :P
That is why I am disliking the video, I have no one else to blame now
Yeah! I don't want to know that actually. XD
It's my interest to change equipment~
Olympic archers also change equipment 1-2 years~
Sjef wins with a wood bow
*Hoyt stops sponsoring you*
I believe that the point of the test is "the bow/limbs/sight quality" (so it's not only Hoyt here) is not the primary bottleneck for shooting accuracy: archer is always the main responsible.
*lol
Sjef gets sponsored by someone else and doesn't care less, because it makes zero difference.
(which was entirely the point of the video, BTW.)
Sjef wins with a wood bow. Hoyt starts making wood bows. ;-P
Alejo Morell *Hoyt left the chat*
Man imagine how funny it would be if you brought that wooden bow to a tournament and smashed someone 6-0 with 3 30's
Sjef should really do that. Just for the giggle.
Do it!
Sjef, are you going to use that bow in Vegas? Scores are fine :).
Haha yeah I was not expecting that outcome either. Would be useful to see one person try out both bows and then right after compare and contrast them. Great video!
This is now my favorite episode you produce!
Great video to demonstrate that expensive equipment is not gonna make you instantly shoot high scores 👍
Get Serious, Get ...
PRACTICE !!! 😅
Moral of the story. Sell the Hoyt and buy a bowling ball and some shoes. Just poking a little fun, Great video guys.
Best ground breaking recurve post on you tube . I have two top end bows but for the last 18 months I only use my samick Polaris 38 lbs shooting neos or jazz arrows at 70 metres .great financial point made
Thanks for this guys, very brave for Sjef, a sponsored archer!
This shows clearly, the Hoyt bow has it's weakness... We have a new star brand on the horizon! Joking...
So many believe you can buy points, but there is no shortcut to lots of hard work and good coaching.
Sjef has just killed his new job !!! And give us a great lesson: Invest in your technic and training first ! thank you
The most remarkable thing about this is watching Sjef handle 48lb on the fingers so smoothly and flawlessly. Those arrows must be around 2314, probably uncut. Telegraph poles basically. Their speed at impact with the 10 shows the high draw weight of his bow. But he makes it look effortless, especially through the clicker. So, I would point out his strength as well as skill! 4th in the Olympics man.
Now it's done, you can remove the magnet from the left target.
I would have liked to have seen the two archers switch bows.
Which is the only way to more accurate compare.
Awesome!!!! I spend so much time tinkering with my olympic style recurve and my expensive target compound that they are both much less fun to shoot than my barebows and my hunting style compound. The problem is that the expensive equipment just looks so cool that I have to have it.
Love the video and can't wait to see the longer range one.
Cheers,
Chris
Thanks guys for doing this lighthearted comparison, very entertaining while proving that form is everything ( no offense Jaap).
So ... with the same club bow I use, Sjef can get a 1cm group at 18m.
Maybe ... and I’m just guessing here ... maybe my 30+cm groupings are down to me being absolutely crap.
Maybe.
You will get better with practice. I picked up the sport at a late age two years ago, but with constant practice I've begun to group tighter over time. The more you know your equipment and know yourself, the better you will perform. Keep shooting, fellow archer!
Don’t worry, I have to shoot from 30cm to get a 30cm group. Keep at it 😊
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I was averaging 10cm groups - some a lot better - then lockdown …
ArcheryGB just announced plans for reopening … let’s see what happens.
bottom line : first thing first, tune the archer
Yep, that is what I am trying to teach my friend as I am trying to get him into archery. I set him up at just 5 yards and he is shooting left about 12 inches, grouping is about 7-8 inches apart and he thinks it is his bow. So I said lets work on your form first, then we will worry about your bow. He keeps on insisting that it is his bow, so I said fine, I will shoot your bow. I did and my grouping was an inch apart and 2 inches down from bullseye. This is a bare bow with no peep site and just using your fingers. Anyways, he went quite for like 20 minutes and then went right back into it is his bow thing. I then said more bluntly that his your form is the main issue here as your bow string is to your right and not on corner of mouth, so any bow is going to shoot left with that form and your not being consistent as sometimes you do have it close to your mouth but then the next shoot you don't. I then said you just need to practice a lot more and also told him that I was shooting just like him when I started. Keep in mind I did make a point before we even started to work on form and taught him basic form techniques like feet placement and anchor points and being consistent. In the end, he walked out still thinking it his bow. I can't help but die a little inside.
I would love to see you on a World Cup against Brady with this wooden bow!
Great video. Try where you swap bows. Jaap will be the same, but how much will the amateur would loose with less expensive gear (if any) I shoot hole in hole with our club gear too at 18meters, which is like 25 dollar for a bow and 1 dollar per arrow
I've said it for years that modern equipment is better than the average person can shoot
That was fun to see.... I also made the same joke at a mate who bought a 5times expensiver bow then mine........
Cool competition. Sjef is a incredible archer, i think he can hit the ten wit a contrabass.
In a German show Lisa Unruh has to walk on a treadmill while shooting. I would pay for it to see you guys doing this. Maybe an idea for next video ;-)
A chalange: 0,5€ arrows against 30€ arrows... ;)
This video reminds me of my son. He started shooting archery when he was six. This past summer at Boy Scout camp he did both his archery and rifle shooting merit badges. In archery the kids have to score 150 points (10 yards, 30 arrows). My son was done in 17 shots on a bow that he had only practiced with for about 9 shots. He had not shot a recurve bow before that. He also finished up his rifle qualifications amazingly quickly. I think aiming is something that is best learned early, and that it carries across many different sports. The equipment is secondary to the unconscious.
Cheers,
Chris
Evidence that the cliche holds true: "It's the Indian, not the arrow" (or the bow)
Its ok, I still have"The Big Book of Barebow Excuses" to fall back on :D
Jaap may be an amateur used to shooting trad equipment, but he has a form that puts many target recurve shooters to shame already. Nice going, Jaap!
John Kearney cheers John!
@@jaapbolt8780 Pleasure! :)
Nice, very funny! I guess the more expensive setup should be more consistent. Though of course the archer is the main limiting factor, as you show. Great vid - really shows how capable affordable equipment is! I have both those bows, so I'll do some (inconsistent!) comparisons. Sadly, at my level it probably won't make a significant difference, but I do take great pleasure in using my Hoyt. Great shooting, Sjef!
Thank you Sjef :-) great motivation and I will remeber it ...
Fun to watch
I have a samick sage
Samick sage premier
One piece samick sage
And two vintage recurve bows
Love samick sage, common man affordable and I don't have to worry if I drop the bow or get it scratched up.
I'm thinking about trying the Martin saber looks nice samick limb compatible you think it's a good bow?
looks like it is all down to the go faster paint job!
Great video! How did you fix the clicker to the wooden riser? (I use magnetic one on sight arm, because I was worried about putting a screw in the wood)
We used a stick-on clicker bij Cartel
That first grouping for both archers.
Sjef use the bow in indoor Archery competition! hehehe!
Dat is echt belachelijk goed. Ongeloofelijk. Ben toch wel benieuwd wat je precies allemaal gedaan hebt om de boog te preppen. 'Zo uit de doos' kan niet waar zijn :-)
En toch is het wel waar!
Nice Vid again! Could you do a comparison with and w/o stabilizer? would be interesting!
could you do a comparison shooing with and without stabalizers
found this very interesting....awesome skills, even if it is at 18 metres....the consistency in Sjef's draw is incredible...but this goes to prove money isn't everything...
Would have been good if the pair of you swapped bows at the end lol
I would love to see Sjef shoot that setup at the Vegas Indoor Shoot.
This was very intresting to see. I Think this is great to show what you can do.
Does having corrected vision affect the outcome at all?
Ok then it's time to invite the best Hoyt Archer there . Brady or ki bo bae maybe 😂😂😂
Total...the left shooter shoots much better than the right one :o) !
Funny to view. Keep going👍
This was fun to watch! I agree with some that would like to see the same comparison at longer distances but my bet would be that the outcome would be close if not the same. I see this in trap shooting all the time between $2000.00 and $20,000.00 shotguns. It is almost always the shooter that makes the difference!
Can you please do this with the cheapest arrows,. whenever I tried to buy cheaper arrows, ppl around me stop me. Are they really that bad??
Very entertaining. But, in same level of archer, an equipment is something beneficial 😄
Video worth saving for future reference.
One, probably most important piece of equipment is missing - finger tab. Can you shoot same with crappy overfinger tab?
I probably could, but wanted to shoot my fairweather in stead, to take that factor out of the equation!
Is that 20 or 30 meters?
I think The limbs are too heavy for Jaap, he even bend his knee......
It's too cruel for him XD
18 meters on a 40cm target
Decent basic equipment is all most of us need. The super-expensive stuff makes a difference only at the very highest levels. Like club runners that drink electrolyte drinks when water is all they need.
I'll also point out that the Core Archery bow won't really be a problem new.
I think that a equipment issues isn't always the case of do they work, but how consistent are they over time.
But I like the viseo
Would have loved to see the Core shot without a site or stabilizer at the 18 meter range to compete against the more expensive bow.
Real accuracy is up to the user, not the bow. But best archer with best equipments will make a difference.
Goed gedaan Sjef.
Zet 'm op voor de volgende keer Jaap
Great idea for a Challenge. But you have to do a x-challenge. Each shooter have to use his high-price set and for the other challenge x-wise a low budget set. That asum the results.
I shoot with my Samick Sage at most tournaments, with, yes, Easton XX75 camohunters. I've always maintained the equipment is only as good as the operator.
Excellent video, thank you
The conclusion is: Sjef is able to turn any bow into an high level bow. Can I send you mine for such a "curing session"? :-)
Send it over and I will see what I can do!
@@TripleTroubleArchery :-D
You're not comparing bows... you're comparing archers ;-)
WHAT ARE THE specs on the wooden bow? length and draw?
Is that the original dacron string in the Core bow? From here it looks like a flemish one.
that was a great video, keep practicing! and maybe read Zen and the Art of Archery. I would love to see 50m shoot off.
Superb video chaps!
May i know what type of arrow used for the wood bow? Was it carbon?
Basic Easton xx75 aluminium arrows, which are actually a really good choice for this little experiment. Good but cheap aluminium arrows will be straighter and more consistent than carbon arrows in the same price class. Also, the extra weight isn't an disadvantage when shooting 18m indoors and the thick diameter can actually work in your favour.
How many pounds is the Core bow?
The technique is really important 😉🏹🎯
Make a video how to tune Wooden bow please
then, Sjef does the same at 70m. Everything we know and believed about olympic recurve is forever changed.
I bought a Core recurve to get my wife into archery. But, she doesn't use it. So, now it's my second bow & I have to say that it's very nice to shoot.
Sjef could hit a 10 with an old broom handle as a bow and twig as an arrow. 😂
Nice channel - keep up with good work.
That is actually VERY interesting to see!!! I'm a beginner archer myself and shoot quite well.. Well, untill I added a clicker on my bow last week.... I have an average bow for amateurs I think. Around 450 euro. Well, I replaced the plunger with a quite expensive one because the other one broke. So add 120 more euro... Anyways, I am under the impression that I would not shoot very much better with a bow many times that cost. And I think this video is a good example that you can shoot excellent with a low cost bow.
Really nice comparison, even if it is kinda subjective :)), nice YT channel.
The most important is your mental and skill
This has been I good video to watch
Do an updated €3,000 vs €300 bow at 70m! 🙏🙏
Gutes Material ist das eine, gut sein das Andere ^^ Tolles Video!
OMG! Fantastic for finger release. He's a real Legalas.
Proof-Practice makes perfect-skill is better than $$$$
Zijn bijde bogen geschickt voor jacht?
Very inspiring.....good video
I remember the banter in the field, when I was shooting a bow just like that but withour stabilizers, button and rest were hot glued metal pieces that somehow worked. Glass fiber 1200 spine chinese arrows and pulling 9s consistently at 30m and laughing at the ilf guys getting 7s, giggling more like. All playful, everyone having fun. maan hope ovid goes away soon
What # were those pulls?
is this your normal stance? so front leg is angled to the target.
Yes
It's all about the archer! LOL!
Excellent video