Wow. STRAIGHT VS. STRAIGHT With $1,170,000 On The Line
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- Today we're taking a look at one of the sickest hands from the 2018 Aussie Millions. This was a $10,000 buy in poker tournament with over $1 million for first place. Duy and Hopkins have the nuts and 3rd nuts repsectively, in an extremely high pressure situation. Unbelievably, Hopkins takes long consideration to folding when faced by a raise from Huy. Is this a laydown anyone should even think about making?
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You are sing songing ur speaking really bad again..
Duy
Pronounced like boy but with a d instead of a b.
He's already out.
Ive subscribed my friend, love this channel the most!
I'm a simple man I see a give away , I enter , i don't win
Freeroll is still a freeroll. If we were able to enter a hundred million giveaways we'd expect to see a profit and never a loss.
Have you ever thought about selling Upswing-branded foam hands and calling them Polker Hands?
Any legislator that says poker isn't a game of skill needs to watch this video. Brilliance.
*In an alternate universe.*
_Hopkins folds his straight, the other donkey, D. Duy, shows KTo. He decided to "go with it", he had a straight draw and a pair after all. Hopkins curses the world and blames his "incredibly poor luck". A week later he loses his last cent at a 0.02NL table on Pokerstars._
100% - the commentators cheering his fold was weird. I get that it makes for good TV, but that just seems like bad poker to me. Then again, this guy is at the final table and I am not, so what the hell do I know? Seemed excessively tight to me, you're gonna be good there a lot of the time with 9/8.
Dude, your videos are by far the best when it comes to poker analysis. Thanks for doing these videos.
Doug these are the types of hands that are good for poker. They should be celebrated. Hands like this get people excited about poker, get people talking, and get people playing. Celebrate the big bluffs in bad spots and and good lay downs when they should be calling. We want people chasing that. It is good for the game.
I was in vegas for a month and every table was full of pros playing like drones. There was no one there to gamble. It was not fun. The game needs to be fun. Fun for the amateur at the the table. Fun for a first time player. Fun because people make ridiculous bluffs and ridiculous lay downs. If everyone is in a race to be a bot then there is no incentive for a new player coming in.
You're not wrong about anything you said dude.. but this is an analysis video - and Doug is giving an analysis - and his analysis is right: terrible fold lol.
I know and I agree with the analysis for an approach the game. But as a community and the face of poker I think we would all be better served to celebrate this type of play where the attitude presented just looks down on this type of play. You could have the same analysis but just include stuff like: Congrats on the fold it worked out well for you this time but in general if you fold here you are way over folding. If you find your opponents making big lay downs like this against you then it can be a great opportunity as long as you have enough bluffs in spots like this. etc. This is largely in response to th-cam.com/video/od1VDkOM5Jc/w-d-xo.htmlm17s rewarding this approach as an individual is not the highest EV but rewarding it as a community is better for all of us.
No one plays tic tac to because everyone plays the same and it is super boring. When everyone plays poker the same it is just like tic tac toe.
Super boring and no one plays. Is Doug playing poker?
No, he has better things to do. As does everyone when the game is stagnant.
@Alex Leach I love your insight here.
well said
@@alexleach4002 yeah I mean I don't think the game's gonna get stagnant until you get up to like 1000NL-5000NL online. Most of the fish we make our money off of aren't watching videos like this. Even of the ones that are - there's plenty of people who literally just can't get it. No matter how much you explain it to them - and often don't want to listen.
My mother is a surgeon - this is not a stupid person. Just trying to explain EV to her is like trying to get a pebble to sprout.
I completely get what you're saying but tbh I think the reason poker feels stagnant is because of marketing. The original popular explosion of the game in mainstream culture was a result of the hockey strike - after the initial boom - bunch of people lost money.. hockey came back on tv - and all we were left with was a bunch of people who had heard you could make a living playing poker and wanted to jump online and get rich overnight - realised they couldn't and started reading books - they're all trying to consistently win is the point. You need to have "for fun" players for it not to feel like that - and I'm not sure that's ever gonna come back.
The WPT / EPT etc. would have to come up with some serious marketing to put poker back in the spotlight again and garner some real widespread mainstream interest for it to feel like that again (imo). Mean time.. I just enjoy playing - there's still plenty of money to be made - it's just not falling like an endless waterfall from the heavens anymore :P - if you want that same free money, go to a live casino - but then you have to make due with 30 hands per hour lol.
Now after 5 Years i start again playing Poker and found your channel a coupel days ago. I Wish we had this kind of Videos in 2000+😉 Thanks bro💖
but doug did you mention the give away?
Nothin better than a good hero laydown! The hell with gettin felted cause the numbers say you should.
You know what’s funny I was watching tv in Australia, like 2 minutes ago and then you appeared in an ad playing poker. Pretty funny
Is this fold worse than Maria's fold? They are completely different spots, so it's hard to know. Maria has a small to medium edge against pretty much any holding, where this hand is a massive favorite or a massive dog, but a sick price and usually the favorite.
Right on for the give away. Wish I didn't give up other social media to get the 3 bonus entries. 5 in a hey stack has slim odds. But it's odds. 🤣
Hey Doug, don't you wanna analyze your hand which happened in Poker After Dark where you had AdAs on T2343 board against Rast? I thought you would call with those AA on the river.
Praying we BOTH win ,
Good Luck Doug. Run good tomorrow.🍀
"Sometimes, it's just your time to die." - Doug Polk on tournaments
Fold, call or raise. Wow, another great episode of Polker Hands!
Can you do more crypto hands?
Please upload more, you're pretty great.
Doug I am doing good in poker stars in micros, and I Saw in an app that I beat 60% of the players, but they play really bad and it's really difficult to use logic with them. What should I do?
Best title so far, not spoiling the action 👍
Obviously had a good read after playing against this guy for hours which is something the commentators, DP and you and i do not have, Great fold!
The comment section always kills me on ur vids Doug.. lmfao.. thx for the vid bud and GOOD LUCK tomorrow!!
Good luck for the main ...miss your poker videos
You forgot to mention the giveaway though
holy shitballs Doug! it is a cooler hand and honestly the analysis is endless. It is like every hand has never ending permutations and possibilities. To be honest there are only so many ways to describe what is going on. The min check raise was obscure but who's to say you can't justify it in many spots. At the end of the day, every human being can only play any given hand a dozen different ways.
I liked that min raise and show at this point in the tournament. Now he can ad a min raise bluff to his arsenal possibly if the right situation comes up. Not the best mathematical move as an all-in would more likely of been called but maybe he bought a bit of fold equity for later on.
That's why it's called the "Sucker Straight" or the "Idiot End"
EZ Game Thanks Doug You should have mentioned the Giveaway . . . 🦊 😎
I all but got stacked with the 3rd nuts, left me with 1 BB. It happens. Also I registered for the give away! Give em hell Doug!
I have a question about Hopkins raise on the flop. Wouldn't his range be imbalanced towards bluffs if he includes 9h 8h in his flop-raising range? He doesn't have that many value hands on the flop. He should be 3-betting QQ, JJ and folding QJo pre. That leaves only QJs (2 combos) and 44 (3 combos). I guess he can raise some combos of AQ on the flop for value, but he's going to be 3-betting some of those combos pre. He also might slowplay AA pre a small percentage of the time.
If he bluff-raises his combo draws/flush draws AND his gutshots+backdoor, he'd have way more bluffs than value combos.
That was a straight up good fold.
Lucas Gleue
That check min raise was suspicious as hell lol
that was a bad one,stop looking for short term results
denis susanu if there is ever a time to seek short term results it's at the final table of a major tournament..
It was so good that it was bad.
I realize fish who checkminraise in spots like this are usually strong but people who checkminraise the nuts in situations like this are usually bad enough to play a set/some kind of draw+pair like this sometimes. Cant fold, insane odds.
i'm having the biggest flashback moment to that one hand in the WSOP where that one guy laid down a full house to another dude's full house.. everyone has to know what i'm talking about, where matusow was at the table and his brain exploded, and he said, "there are millions of idiots out there and i've got to draw the table where guys are laying down full houses and being right"
found it, th-cam.com/video/8go5NjXqgZc/w-d-xo.html
romanello vs geller, jacks full vs kings full, romanello folds.
what? the? f*ck?
incredible
There was a great hand b/w Maria Ho & the grinder last night where he called her down with 10-9, on a 9,4,K,Q,4 board and she pre-flop raised/barreled all 3 streets, would love to see you explain how he made that call on Polker Hands!
Good luck in the main event, Sir!!! (When in doubt, fold....fight again next hand!) :)
.....but we're probably not.
LMAO
Good vid as always Doug, but when you say you have to be calling off, that's generally only against players who will play balanced ranges. There are plenty of recreational players that simply will not bluff in those spots, and definitely won't check min raise bluff in those spots. Vs winning regulars who will chk/r bluff then I agree it has to be a call, but in this scenario I think the entire range of Duy is pretty much solely AK given the line and sizing.
Good luck master DOUG POLK!! :D
It reminded me a straight vs straight hand between Ivey and Dwan which was the highest amount cash hand televised that time..
Hey Doug, just had a somewhat similar situation two days ago in a tournament... Blinds were at 500-1k three hours into the game, had Q9u UTG(my stack was 35k), flopped a straight (flop was TJK rainbow), opened for 3K, guy to my left(33k stack) calls as well as two other players. Turn is a 7 so I decide to go for value assuming o have everyone else crushed... I bet 10k, guy to my left calls and everyone else folds. River is another blank... the other player never raised so I'm thinking I'm ahead... so I jam... dude instant calls and turns over AK... for the nuts straight.... and got stacked... (just had 2k left after this so yeah busted out shortly after...) Was this the right play? Greeting from Peru, love your channel.
At first glance, I agree, this fold looks insane. But actually, if we make a couple reasonable assumptions, the math says this is a fold!
Duy did not 3bet the flop, and he minraised instead of shoving the turn. For most amateur players, this means one thing: Duy has a strong made hand, and he doesn't want to scare us away. If he had AcXc, we'd expect him to potentially raise flop, and almost certainly jam turn. Because he did not, I think we can take this out of this range.
I propose Duy's range in this spot is AK, JJ, and QQ. While we're ahead of sets, there are more combos of AK than JJ and QQ combined, and s ets still have equity against us. Also, if you math it out, we only have 21% equity against that range! But, to call this bet, we need 23.8%!! We can also probably discount some set combos, since Duy should 3bet flop with those sometimes.
Could Duy have JQ or KQ here? Maybe... but I'd really expect him to jam or call those hands.
This all pivots on Duy's minraise meaning value only, but honestly, I don't think it's a stretch to assume that, and Hopkins may have been playing with him long enough to know that's the case.
I will point out that adding 98s to Duy's range for the chop pushes us over the equity line, but just barely. I think if we can discount some combos of that and some combos of sets, this is a correct fold.
Will there be a giveaway this year?
Sick fold and combinatorically vs this guy its just fine. There are tons of herofolds that are not fine, here its ok given player info/fishy timing tells etc...
Hey guys, it’s Doug Polk Here
Good luck at the main Polk.
1. The blinds were 6/3/1k and not 8/4 so it was 3.3x open and the eff stack was around 40 bb not 30.
2. Really liked your analysis but as you are being told constantly, GTO wise its a clear call (what you mentioned in the vid + he's in top of his range + plus getting terrific odds on a call. You may want to add next time the tournament stage they are in, i believe it was before the money judging by the blinds but still, it may add another factor to consider in the hand), but you should also mix the GTO play with exploitable play. I mean, never in my life i saw an old Chinese dude min raising as a bluff, and i believe Hopkins realised that. Thanks Doug
Duy is pronounced two ways. For foreigners, it's "ZWEE". For Asian-Americans who have it as a first name, it's "DOO-E".
Something is different lately, few days ago I 3bet oop a fun player with QQ, I double barreled the KQ55 board and he folded on the turn, the showed me his Kx hand (on pokerstars).
That's almost borderline suspicious that fold is so nuts, especially blocking the 9.
what a legend.
Doug you basically say he should've got it in, because obviously you can't always fold a straight to a higher one. But come on, you could see on the guy that he had the feeling of just knowing the opponent having it.
This is what happens when your strategy is to hand read your opponent too much, and yourself not enough.
Gold as usual Doug.
Min raises are usually so nutted. Because unless he is tryna grab initiative to shove the river, what value will fold
If Duy jams he gets the call. Min raise was stooooopidddd!
DOUG: GO SEE THIS! THEY ANNOUNCE YOU BY NAME, then show a photo of Vanessa Selbst. (This was the highlight of my day)
I think he played it really well. If his opponent had a hand like QQ or JJ they're likely shoving the flop with that draw heavy board. With the flat then check min, huge red flags go up and really the only thing you beat is a bluff. Check min bluffs are super rare so I think he made the right fold. Not to mention the raise on the flop was NOT intended to draw for a 10 or running hearts, if that was the case he could've just called the flop to see the turn for cheap. The flop raise was intended to get his opponent off hands like AK and A10. He knows he's going against AK after the flat on the flop so 100% amazingly played. I would've done the same thing. Hindsight is 20/20 though so who knows.
nice video like every time ^^
lol you wrote that like a minute after it was up, you didn't even watch it :D
Pretty lame to forget to mention the giveaway. You just want to keep your winnings to yourself!
Is there a giveaway this time?
I think the min-reraise on the turn gave it away. As Doug said it was the worst option for Duy on the turn, but in my opinion Doug is forgetting to factor in how this changes the decisionmaking for Hopkins. If Duy calls or shoves on the turn he still has two pairs, combo-draws and sometimes sets in his range. The min-reraise however just screams 'nuts'. I think if Duy would have either called or shoved the turn he would have gotten it all.
Maybe a good indication to min raise as a bluff occasionally
Amazing fold
my guaranteed 0% is CRUSHING my potential 3%.
If you're entering the main event, you should do a giveaway. Think of the fans, man.
Let's go Hoppy.
i think the reason duy doesn't have many straights should be a reason to raise the turn cause hopkins would be think he hasn't many straights so you call
fantastic fold
Is it 100% a preflop call there with 98s? He started with 31bb. Seems kind of short to be calling pre.
tgo007 Doug said "mostly play this hand" which doesn't mean 100% but probably like 80. Good point though.
am i the only one who would considered it a slowroll/nitroll if iwaas in the ak position/??
Love your videos man tnx, and this is a big laydown but Duy did a very stupid raise in the turn he said that he had AK or k9 or nothing, it's remind me that Negarno had a straight and fold to full house with a bet of only 7 K becuase it was too wierd.
Yeah we need to bluff because people like folding... The problem is im not a 50yr old recreational player and I would jam rather than minraise therefore Id get snapcalled.
I think, there is something to be said for not continuing hands, where you are drawing to the dummys end of a straight. Typically playing draws are justified with "LOL implied odds", but in a situation like this you definitly need to consider your reverse implied odds as well.
As for the fold, I think, the guy mini-raising must have been a recreational player, and he is probably extremely unbalanced, when he take this line. Also there are 16 combos of AK, so its not like, its an unlikely hand for him to have. If he is sticky, as many recreational players are with hands like AK, he dont need to have any flush draw attached to his AK.
For these reasons its a great exploitable fold, which I would not have able to make. The guy with AK should have gone all in on the turn. That actually look less strong and would likely have gotten called.
“People like folding.” JUST LIKE HOW THEY LIKE MORE RAKE!
Straight A video
I've seen this hand before, like 6 months ago, must've been right after it happened
Hahaha, yes sometimes it is a cruel game... how dod he fold.. ? :D
You said you didn’t mind the min raise. What other hands ever min raise here? Isn’t that unbalanced?
EDIT: never mind I misheard what you said
The min raise looks waaayyyy to strong what hand other than the nuts would consider min raising the turn after Bet calling the flop!!!
I think Duy should fold flop, BUT if they have been playing together for a while maybe his opponent should get exploitative and go more like 60k in order to get that fold, but if Duy is just calling inelastically with hands like this quite often then maybe it's just a fold or call and fold on turns unimproved if Duy bets, or call flop and begin your bluff on the turn, because this often looks stronger to me, because raising cbets has become so common And wide. Calling flop makes Duy think hes behind alot if he is cbetting too often, so if he is, let's call flop for a cheap 17k and begin our bluffing on turns that miss Duys range maybe. Basically very player dependent but agree with everything Doug said as well.
Oh my god...
if the 3% is over 50k (which it almost certainly will be) give away 10 equal prizes or alternatively because ive heard a lot of people recommending it simply buy me into the main this year
I'm right there with ya, Doug. But just look at the comments. Randoms LOVE big folds. They just fucking love them lol. And they say poker is dead. It just makes it so much easier for those of us playing correctly to just put it in vs these types and reap the rewards.
Bluffing is good, peoples will fold big hands. That such a nice way to see this.
yeh bad fold imo in the long run.. it actually tilts me that he raised then folded the turn.
gl in the mainnnnnn!
Giveaway ftw
I wonder what would have happened if AK flats turn? I wonder what's the best way to get paid off with the nuts?
gotta check river as well
im in for the give away
what give away?
You can only justify this river play with a really strong read.
is it me or the commentator sounds like the young spiderman?
polk saying the x/minraise is not even an option, but if you get him to fold 89 straight, then you get him to fold his entire range in this spot (except K9 maybe and the occasional AK, but how often does he flat the BTN vs HJ with AK).
Surely you could just print on a bluff with the occasional x/minraise on the turn.
It's just a terrible fold
Consumer number 61 the problem is that if you’re capable of check-minraising as a bluff you won’t get hopkins to fold 98. unless you somehow built up the same image as this guy has.
Saying its a terrible fold and saying min XR'ing as a bluff is a good idea are total contradictions.
Exploit ably its a great fold considering fish never min xr the run light, never.
Most of the population are not capable folding to a min though so min check raising as a bluff is a terrible idea, even 2 pairs are calling
That's a good point. But these 2 guys don't necessarily have that much experience together.
Well against the average fish I agree that it's a terrible idea as you have very little fold equity. But against these "good players" who love to fold it can be a great exploit, laying yourself a very cheap price on a bluff.
Of course you may be right that, exploitatively, it's a good fold. But that seems unlikely. Realistically you're massively overfolding if you sack 89 here (especially to a minraise).
Consumer number 61 it doesn’t matter if they haven’t played much with each other when a rec x min raises off that stack size on the turn it’s never a bluff.
Good players love to fold? They wouldn’t be good players if they preferred to fold over the correct decision
what's polk guys? doug up here.
how much is 3% of $0? I hope I win!
They finished within 2 places of each other.
Alright another 15 minute plus breakdown of one hand
Dope
to be honest check raise pot is a very odd move in general, in this instance i can safely assume we are talking about a recreational player then lets think about a range of hands he can have and will do it with and i think the range will be K9cc AKcx and thats it with rhe logic being you want to get the money in but you block many hands that can call you, rest of the hands will probebly jam flop/turn.
now on Hopkins side, this is a very annoying spot, you cant be happy for sure but if you fold here 89 you basicly fold here all your range unless you can have ther K9cc, sick laydown probebly you have to put the money in and pray not to be against AK but yet again - check min raise is a very odd move.
Donkey player just gave away his hand by snap check min-raising there. Yes, you shouldn’t be laying down 98s there, but that line that fish took, I have played more than million hands online, always the nuts.
Nice to see M Zuckerberg grinding.
Hopkins would never fold that Ho hand lmao.